Awesome series!!! Any luck on creating that Alexa skill you mentioned too be able to control the ws66i from Alexa and/or Google Home? Been looking for a solution to send RS-232 commands from Alexa/GH. Kind of got something working with TRIGGERcmd kicking off .bat files on my PC but seems like there should be a better and easier way. Any ideas?
Just purchased my first WS66i kit based off of these videos! What do you recommend speaker wise if I want to run 4 speakers to 4 of the 6 zones? Will that be too much for the amp? Should I look at adding additional amps? Anything I should be considering speaker wise? Appreciate your comments.
Great video, was inspired by your previous videos so it's great to see an update! Do you know if it would be possible to connect this up to be controlled with Home Assistant instead of the app? Thanks
Hey KMZ1, thanks for your app support for monoprice amps!! just to confirm your monoprice app and the rs232 interface does not work on the osd bma-6012p aka 31028 - Monoprice 6 Zone Home Audio ... I would need to develop my own app for the 31028? Correct?
I would rather go with my setup again, I think it's better for the money. Sonos is good yes, but damn it's expensive. Plus I have had issues with their wireless pairing of speakers. In general hard wiring is better. yes it's more work to do and harder but once that wire is there you are set for good.
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you for the reply and perspective on this. I'll either go with this system, or the one HTD has to offer. I like their Alexa integration.
Thanks for the great info. I would like to upgrade my keypads. They currently have 4 colored wires in the back. They are just a volume knob. Can I upgrade to these new keypads?? Thanks Jack
Thanks for your Whole Home Audio Video Serie. I love loved it. I just have a probably a stupid question. Do the key pads need to be connected to the hub and then directly to the AMP? Or can those be connected through the network?
Sorry for the late reply, they are not connected to the network and they cannot be either. That is because the keypads are not a networked device, they are actually kinda dumb, they simply using the ethernet cable as the means to connect them. Ethernet cable is easy to come by and cheap, so that is what they used, so that simply allows them to be powered and send the digital signals back to the amp. Otherwise there is no network address or any kind of NIC in these! Thanks!
Hi, We finally got the new house ready and I am looking to install the Audio system. Can you please list the parts and if you let me know the best place to buy them. So far I need a total of 30 ceiling speakers 2 outdoor speakers. We going to have 4 to 5 sources and about 6 zones. I have a cat6 home run for volume control all the way to the audio room and all the speakers and source cables are also in the same audio room. I guess ur recommendation was the Soundavo WS66i. Please let me know. Thank you for your help
I have a question. I moved into my house that has all these wall device like your but they are not digital. They are the press buttons one. I notice in the living room all the cables run over there. The home owner that lived here took everything and left the cables. Now I'm stuck figuring out how all this works. I notice were the cables come out they have the green connectors. What is the best device to connect everything but not so expensive. Just want to use the speakers since they are installed already. Maybe use it for tv or streaming from Spotify if possible. Please let me know when you have a moment. Thanks,
Is it possible to purchase a replacement remote? I purchased this a few months ago and the remote never worked. I assumed I needed some other product to make it work but I'm realizing now that it should actually work out the box. The app and keypads work fine but now I'm realizing how the remote would be handy!
Oh boy. After months of waiting for my new home construction to be finished, my unit seems defective. Hoping Soundavo supports me through this. The house is all pre-wired and ready for holiday music.
What kind of issues are you seeing? Yes don't worry, they will get you through it. If not, let me know and I can help assist some people I know on that side to email
@@TheKMZ1 It turns on but seems to partially turn off right away. There's a red light on inside, and the ethernet port flashes. The app won't recognize its IP address. I'm in communication with Soundavo, but my work schedule is getting in the way. I'll have to wait a couple days to get back to them..I'll keep you updated. I'll be very very happy to see this working!
I have already ran cat5e cables to all my locations and now I don't really have to use keypads with the WS66i, what's your suggestion in regard to using keypads? Also, do you recommend waiting for the new keypads to buy the kit or just buy just the amp now and get the new keypads when they come out?
Even though you don't HAVE to use keypads, my opinion and suggestion is to use them if you can. Because guests are more likely to use or adjust it if it's on the wall. If you ever sell your house, having them already there is more attractive. Buyers don't want to feel like they are going into something that have no clue about. I find myself using the keypads 60% of the time and the app 40% so my view is the app is great, but I would use the keypads a little more. The keypads really do look nice on the wall. I would get the system now, and then later decide if you like the new version of the keypad or not. You may not even like the way the new one looks, who knows!
Heyo KMZ1! It's been a long year, but we finally closed on our home 3 weeks ago. I am finally just now looking at buying the equipment (ws66i), and speakers. Everything is on Black Friday discounts for massive savings through November 30th, and I hope I can use your coupon for even more savings, but we'll see! What I wanted to write in about before placing orders for everything were as follows: First, how has your ws66i/speakers/setup been working for you this past year, are you still enjoying it? Any new pros/cons you've run across in this past years use? Second, if I decide to use a single speaker per channel, per zone, is there a way for me to have specific zones run as mono (like a switch per zone), or would I have to physically wire both speakers to the same channel within a zone to achieve mono? Options? Third, I've re-watched your video several times on the Soundavo IC-8" and IC-6.5" in ceiling speakers, and what concerns me is that their backs are not enclosed and when reaching out to Soundavo about obtaining a BackBox for these, they say they don't make them so anything like that I would want to do I would have to do on my own. I don't understand why anyone would install an in-ceiling speaker without a BackBox when the speaker has an open back that's not enclosed. I've spent 10's of hours researching this over the past year and I can't find any forum, community, nor installer that advises installing these as is. The amount of sound loss, low bass reproduction, sound projection, and sound bleeding through your walls and/or ceiling into other rooms within your home have pretty much scared me away from these speakers. The speakers look phenomenal, are at a great price, are rated perfectly to match the ws66i, but I just don't know that I could feel confident installing them without an enclosed back, which is why I keep leaning back to the JBL 26C. Can you give me your thoughts/perspective on this?
Hello! Sorry for the late reply, been traveling for the Holidays! Unfortunately my coupon code will not work for black friday but it should continue to work afterwards. If I were you, you should do the Black Friday deal. Over the past year everything has held up perfectly. I have not had any issues, nor have I had to replace anything. We use the system daily... my kids like to listen to low volume music when they go to bed. Regarding your mono question, yes each zone has a switch on the back and you can change it from mono to stereo... although If i were you, i'd try to use stereo as much as possible. It will sound much better. You will find that there are not many speaker making companies that include the back on the speakers. So you should pick the speakers you truly want to have, and then you could build some kind of a custom box if you want to. But yes most companies don't.
Thanks for reviewing this amp! In my upcoming renovation I will need about 10 zones, can I use this amp as the master and the dayton or monoprice as the slave?
@@TheKMZ1 when you say ‘technically” is functionality or degradation of performance you lose in mixing? I don’t see a reason to purchase another WS66i ($$$) since the 2nd WS66i is going to be a slave unit . As a slave the source features, streamers etc.... are redundant and not in play? Will the WS66i app control the slave (Dayton or Mono) speakers wirelessly and can those slave speakers be controlled viA the mono/Dayton wall controls. Finally , Can I mix wall mounts and wireless control within the same WS66I ( I have locations where a wall control is not feasible within a WS66i)
@@timp.2693 There is no functionality degradation or performance issues when mixing the ws66i with the monoprice or dayton units as your slave units. the app works with it just fine and the wall controls work the same. So no issues at all
I am in the market but am unsure how it all works. How many speakers can be run for each zone? Can I get my Apple Music to work? The house uses all Apple products.
I have an entire series on my TH-cam channel that you'll really like. It's called installing whole home audio from start to finish. These amps are meant for 2 speakers in a zone but you can get max 4 speakers in a zone as well, I also have a video on my channel named how to get 3 or more speakers in a zone
@TheKMZ1 Any updade on this. Are you still using it? How well do the built in network streamers. Have they added any native apps to stream (like pandora)? How well does Airplay and Chromecast work? Reading the PDF of the WS66i, looks like they added Pandora? What can you say about that?
How does the bluetooth KBR1 devices work? They resemble the zone switches mounted on the wall, but I can't find any information on how they work or connect via the ethernet.
Great video, and thank you for what you're doing ! I'm building right now and I plan to use this system. I see there is a holiday sale now, and your discount. Is your discount always available? If not, how often do they have sales? I don't want to buy now and leave it in the box for 6 months if I can avoid it. But, I'd rather save $500 if I can. Can I wait and still save with your discount? Does your code only work on the unit with the older controllers? I don't see anything about support for iTunes (Apple Music). Do they offer a way to stream Apple Music? I do have the option of a Sonos device I could connect, but if it's native I think that would be better. Thanks again!
I think they only do holiday says around thanksgiving and christmas. Yes my code will still work outside of that, so you should still be able to save in 6 months. The discount code works on the controller and non-controller units. You can only use the discount code once per email address, so i think you could buy one unit with one email address and my discount code, and then do another separate order to be able to use it again. You can use the airplay streamers to stream apple music right? I am not an apple user so i am a little limited in this area lol but the amps have airplay streamers in them. Otherwise yes absolutely you can hook in another source into the back of it, check out my series on my channel, "Whole home audio from start to finish" if you havent seen that already. Thanks for watching
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you! It looks like the code is only available on the one with the old controllers. If that's not right please let me know. I think I'm going to order tomorrow, and would like to make sure you get credit for the sale if possible. The LCD controllers seem worth the extra cost. Do you agree?
BTW, yes I've see the recommended video. You do great videos! Liked and subscribed. Yes, you can use airplay streamers, so that would work. Thank you for the tremendously quick response!
I recall from one of your vids that you used 3 or even 4 core speaker cable. Which did you use? Reason I’m asking is that I tried using three core for two speakers (shared ground) but this didn’t work, one speaker was very quiet and it caused audio to cut out repeatedly…
In my videos i use either 2 conductor or 4 conductor cable. I have a video where I talk about installing 3 speakers, 4 speakers, or even more speakers in 1 zone. Each speaker has to have a Left and a Right cable hooked up to it. I am not sure what you mean by a shared ground cable.
Do you know/suggest a rotary volume control compatible with this amp? Need to use standard volume controller with this amp as house is wired with speaker wire at volume control and not Ethernet.
Since this has no casting receiver for Android I have a question about the zoning ability via this amps app in combination with an exterior Chromecast enabled internet radio. The radio is a grace link, it also has an app and (I believe) separate Chromecast casting function built in. Now, this thing is universal to nearly every stream app, apple products, and android...holy grail. If I get the ws66i and this grace link, could I still use the zoning on the amp and it's application? I worry about this radio strictly requiring the use of it's app for casting, in that case could I still utilize the amps zoning function (apps side-by-side or in conjunction)? Does the amp app require streaming pass through for it to work? I don't want to have to press any buttons at all haha
Great video! Looking to purchase this new kit! I have also watched your speaker video reviewing the different types of speakers you had purchased but since I'm in the UK this isn't an option for me. I am just confused on what speaker to buy. I'm I correct in saying that the max output of a speaker can only be 25watt? So 2x 25watt speakers per zone? What if I found a speaker that is 50watt? Could I still connect a 2x 50watt speaker? Also what is the different between the two options at the back, Stero and Bridged? Thanks
Yes if you found a 50w speaker it would still work fine with this amplifier. The difference between stereo and bridged is that stereo means you have a left channel and a right channel for audio. Bridged means it becomes a mono sound, it does not send the audio out in 2 separate channels. Bridged mode is usually meant to combine the 2 into only 1 higher output speaker. Most people keep it in stereo mode
Hello, I have my house pre-wired with 6 zones (12) speakers and each zone is wired for a volume control. Will this system support my setup? Will the keypads work with the volume control?
Awesome videos! I am wanting to install a 6 Zone in my Airbnb rental for my guests (probably still going for the mono-price) one question I had was on your video from about 2 years ago where you described your setup at your home using the mono price amp. How did you get the RCA wall input in the kitchen how does the back of the wall plug look like? Is there RCA cables going back to the amp itself? Only part I am confused about. Great videos!
Thanks for watching! I think you'll be happy then, to know of my upcoming series i'm recording, where i'm showing installing whole home audio from start to finish in my new house we bought. (Not new but new to us) To answer your question, the RCA cables are custom made by using RG6 cable. This is just standard TV coax cable. Use RCA compression connectors amzn.to/3dUCzno and here are the crimpers amzn.to/35sG2G3 You have to use 2 separate cables. I use keystone jacks like this then which make up the wall plate amzn.to/31CElEW amzn.to/2J1gaJL amzn.to/3ks6YM7 Hopefully this helps! Hope you subscribe and tune in to my series coming soon. I hope to have video 1 up in the next several days, and hoping to get the entire series project completed by end of year!
I Really like this unit. I'm building a new home and am planning to install this. My question is: I have a old stereo receiver/amp that I want to use in my man cave with my 4 JBL Jubal L65s speakers and run Bluetooth off the receiver to also stream off the Monoprice. The receiver is located in a room about 200' and one floor down from where I plan to mount the Monoprice. Do you have any suggestions on how I can achieve this? (Obviously I'm not very conversant with this stuff). Thanks for nay help.
Have you added any Bluetooth receivers? I'm looking at a few inwall mounted options to control 2 speakers in a home guy setting use a phone to play music through inwall speakers. The inwall bluetooth receiver (source) looks like they use cat6 wire. Any advice?
Please watch my other videos on my channel, they are great resources. But you need the WS66i amplifier, use my code TKMZ to get a good discount. You need speakers, speaker wire, and ethernet cable (if you are installing the keypads) that's about it
Thanks for reviewing! Just wondering since there are 2 streamers are you only able to play 2 different audio/songs for multiple zones? Also if you still want the ability to cast can you just add chromecast audio's to this? And can you play audio at different volumes in each separate zone through the app and together? Thank you!
Since there are 2 streamers, yes you can stream 2 separate things at once, and those can be played in any of the zones. If you want more streaming capability, you can still add a chromecast audio to one of the other sources, or you can also use an RCA to 3.5mm cable such as this amzn.to/3jDe0x9 and you can hook up your phone, ipad etc. Hopefully this answers your question, if you have all 6 sources being utilized, then you can technically listen to 6 completely different things, in any of the 6 zones. Each zone is independently controlled with volume, source, EQ etc.
Kadin, Great channel! I really appreciate all the information you are putting out there. I have a few questions. I’m installing a large system with about 15 zones all together. How many amps will I need? Also what speakers would recommend for a garage and a front porch? The porch speakers will be installed in the overhang and will not be getting wet. Thanks in advance! Keep up the good work!
Don, sorry for the late reply i'm not sure how i missed your comment. 15 zones, you would need 3 amplifiers. You could get 1 WS66i and use my code to save money, and then get 2 monoprice 6 zone amplifiers which will also save you more money and they will work just fine with these. You would link them all together and you'd have a system capable of up to 18 zones sharing the 6 sources!
TheKMZ1: Based on your reassurance, I just ordered it and looking forward to the delivery. Features/ specs look great and I hope the device lives up to the promise! Let the Soundavo guys know that you did the sale for them 😉
yes you can, it all depends on how you wire it. The amps specifications are: Output Power: 25W x 2 per zone (at 8Ω), Output Power: 50W x 2 per zone (at 4Ω), Output Power: 100W per zone (Bridged at 8Ω). So therefore, to get 4 speakers in 1 zone, you could wire 2 8 ohm speakers in parallel, and that would have 1 pair (+ and -) going back to the amp. Then wire your next set pair of speakers also in parallel, and this is completely independent of your first set you just did. If you use 8 ohm speakers, this means that the amp would see a 4 ohm load for your left channel and also a 4 ohm load on your right channel, which is completely fine and within the limits of the amp. The amp doesn't know or care that you have 2 speakers in your left channel , and 2 speaker sin your right channel, it just knows that the incoming speaker impedance is 4 ohms and that makes it happy. Subscribe to my channel and i'll probably do a video on this, as i get a lot of questions! Thanks
This question may have already been answered or I am not understanding correctly. I am concerned about output power. Specs for this unit say Output Power: 25W x 2 per zone (at 8Ω). Ceiling speakers I am seeing are ~60W RMS. I heard a rule of thumb for picking out an amp is to have double the RMS of the speaker. Is the output power enough on this unit? Would like to get 8Ω ceiling speakers with this unit. Appreciate all your videos!
You are correct, this particular amplifier is 25w per speaker. I dont think it's low in my opinion. If we reference JL audios own publication jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/217201737-Doubling-Power-vs-Doubling-Output and this is also written in many other places (so it's not a made up concept) but doubling power does not make it sound "twice as loud". So doubling power even to 50 watts per speaker would have subtle differences in the actual SPL levels heard by our ears. Yes it'd be a little louder but subtly. In my own experience with this amp that I'm using (since 2017) it can get more than enough loud. It can throw a party. Thanks for watching and for the comment!!
Hi, I have total 14 speakers to set in 6 zones. 2-dining, 2-bedroom, 2-second floor hall way, 2-patio, 3-masterbedrrom+bathroom, 3-First floor hall way. Connecting 2 speakers to a zone is pretty clear. My question is that, how can I connect 3 speakers to a zone? Please advise!
I moved into a home with a bunch of these 4 pin connectors. How do I get a unit to support this without spending freaking 1200 bucks! Seems really expensive.
Hi Thank you for a great demo of this amplifier. My biggest question is, I would need 2 because I have 12 zones in my home with 3 zones bridged in the main family room. So 2 questions can I bridge/combine the 3 zones? Second question because HEOS can’t do this which is why I’m watching this video. We have the family Spotify package so our 5 individual accounts are my wife and I, my 2 children and a zone for the house. Can all 5 Spotify accounts access any of the 12 zones or really 9 because I’d have 3 combined zones. I hope that makes sense. With HEOS it’s 1 Spotify account per unit so we’re not going with them
Yes I think all Spotify accounts can access, because you don't add Spotify to the unit, instead when your unit is on the local network and your phone also, the Spotify app sees the streamers online and allows you to cast to the device. That means it shouldn't matter what account is signed in, they should all see the available streaming devices on your network. Also, there's only 2 streamers in the unit, it means only 2 people can listen to different things at a time. Any of your zones can listen to any source they want to, but it's just that there's only 2 streamers which means only 2 of your family members can stream different things at a time. Hopefully that makes sense!
Great video and review. I would not have found this product without you. Would you happen to know what the warranty is on the Soundavo? I can’t seem to find any information on their website other than a 30 day return for defects? Thx John Brunswick Maine
Price wise, a standard receiver would be a little cheaper. But function wise, is where they are different. These are specifically built for these whole home audio applications, with independent zones that can be controlled. Each zone can independently tune in to any source that it wants to listen to. So you could have 6 zones, listening to 6 different things, or any combination of whatever you want. Each zone can determine that by using the digital keypads. Any of the zones can be on or off, and can be controlled with a phone/tablet. A standard receiver usually has many source inputs, but whatever is the selected source would play out of every speaker, you don't have that granular ability to tell what speakers to listen to what. Also, most receivers you wouldn't have any kind of smart phone control. With a standard receiver, you could hook up analog rotary volume controls, but that is all you get control over, is volume. Hopefully this helps!
@TheKMZ1 I just tried the discount code on the Amp only. (don't have lan cables ran in the house for control panels) it is not working. Is there an updated code? happy holidays!
I've read about how bright and some what annoying the keypads are. Does Soundavo fix that? Can this amp be integrated with smart switches like the Brilliant Switch?
I have a video on my channel talking about the keypad brightness th-cam.com/video/RLN7CAil3a4/w-d-xo.html This is still currently the only way to modify it. This amp has ethernet and RS232 control, so it can be integrated into smart systems (such as Control 4 for example) so I can't comment directly about the Brilliant Switch, but in general yes the amp has control integration capabilities.
Hello and thanks for reviewing this and explaining things... One question I had was what do you use as a PreAmp for this amplifier? Can you use an existing AV receiver EX. Onkyo? Thanks.
To use the pre-amp your other amplifier just needs to accept RCA input. The pre-amp out is nice, because that allows you to still control the volume, source, EQ, etc using the keypad, but the speakers are being powered by the other amp. So think of pre-amp out as just passing along the source data, into the other amp, and the other amp is actually powering it.
Can the amplifier be hookup the audio/video system or like surround sound setup. I would like see if I hookup like one zone my tv in the living room? I hope you understand my questions.
No, I dont think it's possible to use a keypad from another brand. Soundavo is however, making an LCD backlit keypad version and it should be out around Q2 2021. When it comes out i'll do a video on it!
Unfortunately, after purchasing the amplifier will not connect via the wsi66 app. I've sent it to Soundavo and it won't work. Frustrated. Any suggestions?
Yeah I have some ideas, also Soundavo has good support and it the amp is defective don't worry they will get you taken care of. You can also email me support@kztechconsulting.com
I wondered what I should do because I am looking to get one of these amplifiers and have in ceiling speakers in all my rooms but I want to build a surround sound system for my home theater room and I want to know what to I should do, should I get a separate amplifier to control the surround sound in my theater or can I use this amplifier for surround sound in one room while not using it for surround sound in my other rooms but I was wondering if it would be possible to still use the soundavo software and just play music through the surround speakers and then go back to using them for surround for films, I am relatively new to this type of audio so if you could help then that would be great
The WS66i has what are called "pre-amp outputs" on the back. I made a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/w-d-xo.html and I think you'll really find it helpful! I demonstrate and talk about how you could have a theater amp hooked up exactly like you are describing. Basically, pre amp outs pass the source data like volume, EQ, etc through to another amplifier. And you hook your speakers into the other external amp...in your case your speakers for that zone (your home theater zone) are hooked up and powered by the whole home amp. But, you plug the pre-amp outsputs into an input of your home theater amp. When your home theater amp is tuned to that source, your wall keypad and everything will still control it since it's passing the source data, volume, eq etc into the home theater amp. Yes, this does mean you need your home theater amp on all the time and it would be tuned to that source 90% of the time. When it is TV or Movie time, you would switch your source to like the HDMI tv source or whatever source has the movie audio. Hopefully this makes sense and hopefully that video helps!
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you so much, also that was a very fast response, your videos have been amazing and I really appreciate you explaining it and you explained it really well in your other video, even simple enough for me. All your videos have answered every question that I have had now and I actually have a much better understanding of how it all works.
Looks like the added two streamers come at the cost of the source 3 & 4 RCA inputs on the rear. If you want the streaming that's great, but otherwise this is now only a four source system.
It does come at the cost of removing 2 of the RCA, there are still 2 left. In my experience talking with many people, most people did not use the RCA's at all, let alone 4 of them. So yes if someone needed specifically more RCA then this may not be the amp to go with. Thanks for watching!
Hello Great video , in the process of building and this is very helpful. I also enjoyed your speaker selection video and in the process to purchase the 8 inch version. I’m a little confused, so here is my question. I have 22 zones (2 speakers per zone), snd some of these areas/rooms are close to each other. Can I hook up 3 to 4 speakers to 1 zone. Trying to limit the amount of WS66i’s that I need to purchase.
@theKMZ1 Hoping you read this! I'm working on a small VBS-like project for my church, and was wondering if this amp, using a USB stick, can play specific media to each zone via the app. I know it's such a simple request, but I'm trying to have music as well as ambient sound for a camping theme. Looks like a no-brainer to me if it will work as I believe it can!
You can have each zone play something different, but not from the same source. What i mean is, 1 usb stick plugged in is just 1 source. You can't have that usb stick playing multiple things, it's only ever playing 1 thing, and each zone can tune into that source if it wants to... or it can tune into a different source. So you can play 6 different things in each zone yes, but that means you have 6 different sources plugged in and playing different things. Hopefully this example makes sense
@@NovaFox238 you would need a different amp such as the soundavo MZ (multi-zone) amp. Please watch my video on my channel titled something like this. The 3 most popular amps people use.
Hello, pretty cool features on this Soundavo amp. I know you swapped it out for one of your Dayton Audios, is the Soundavo specs exactly same as Daytons/Monoprice in terms of ohms, watts, etc.
I see how you connected your Alexa to this but my question is there no way to have Alexa from any echo device control the independent zones? For example ask Alexa to turn on zone1 or zone2? Your example just streams the music to that particular source. I want to be able to control the ability to control each zone independently either through alexa or Smartthings.
Thanks for the great video. I was considering to use Sonos Amp per zone for my 6 zone setup hooking up my Denon AVR to it. I see you gave compared Soundavo Amp with Denon HEOS.. Can you please update / consider comparing with the Sonos Amp? I would need to shell out 3600$ just for the Amps. 1. What would one miss if they were to use Soundavo Amp instead of Sonos? 2. Is there an iPhone App ? How to control music zone / source etc if we chose not to go with the keypads? 3. What’s the RMS power output for each zone ? (compared to Sonos Amp) 4. Can we bridge (merge) two zones into one zone to connect say 4 in-ceiling speakers ?
Please check out my channel, I have many other videos that you will find helpful such as connecting 3, 4, and even many more speaker into 1 zone. Yes there is an iPhone app to control the soundavo. I think you should seriously consider it because it's a great amp and you'll save a lot of money
You can also hook up external amps as well, into the soundavo. I detail that in my video on my channel titled: pre-amp out, how to hook up 3,4 or hundreds of speakers into 1 zone. I also talk about how you would hook up your surround sound amp into the soundavo
Great video. I'm sold. Do you know if Soundavo can take orders over the phone? I have a rebate debit card I would like to use for most of the purchase, and the Soundavo site would not allow for a split purchase.
I will do a video on them when they are ready (I'm not sure when they will be ready, and i'm not sure what they will look like) but Soundavo is designing new ones now, they are gearing to be a more higher end look, similar to the amplifier how it's appearance is more higher end. Will keep everyone updated!
Are there any interfaces between the Soundavo WS66i and other amps? I have a Denon amp that is not connected to my cabinet and looking to be able to tie the Soundavo Ws66i to the Denon amp. Please advise. Thank you! Rich
Using the pre-amp outputs on the WS66i, you can use the Denon amp to power speakers while that becomes a zone on the WS66i. I have a video on my channel talking about the pre-amp outputs
This is great for my next project. I need something like this for commercial 70/100v speakers. can I connect Soundavo speaker out with 70/100v amp line input and use it for commercial speakers. or is ther any easy way? I need about 10 speapers for Zone 1, 2 speakers for Zone2, 8 speakers for zone 3.... something like that. and I am gonna use JBL 8124 for ceiling and Control 25i for wall mount. (is there any other recommendation?) Thank you!!
Since the chrome cast is no longer available, what are the options for just streaming off your phone wirelessly from sources not supported in the unit?
Hi! thank you for posting this great video. I just bought the WS66i ( amp only) and I am looking forward to installing it. I have a question... Can more than one iphone with the app installed control the amp? Like my iphone and my wife's? iphone both control the amp? So I can use my phone to listen to one input in the living room and my wife can use her phone to choose the input for the kitchen?
Yes that's correct, you can have the app installed on multiple phones and can control the amp and cast music from either one. Thanks for buying and I'll be doing more videos soon, including showing how you can connect 3 and even 4 speakers in 1 zone. And I'll be doing a larger video in me installing this amp and speakers in my existing 2 story house!
@@TheKMZ1 Did you create the video about hooking up more than two speakers to 1 zone? I have a number of speakers that are close and would be better if they were combined into a single zone. Thanks
@@TheKMZ1 Thanks. I watched it! Follow-up questions - Why did you decide to get the wall mounted controlers if you can use the app? I am on the fence about getting them. Also, is the app able to control playing music on a usb drive?
@@kevingormley679 I did the wall controllers/ key pads because in my opinion it gives a higher end look. Also if I ever sell my house, I want the new owners to not feel like they have no idea how to run it, and guests are more likely to use it too, if they are on the wall. But this is just my opinion and it's totally fine to just control it with the app!
It doesn't use Bluetooth, it uses your network connection for that reason actually. In big houses it's not a problem as long as you have good WiFi your phone can control it no issues
For the short run, i would use an optical cable like this amzn.to/36ICJf5 you can also get a 75 ft one at that same link if you wanted. But over 100ft you cannot use optical. So for your 2nd TV, your option would be to make yourself a long custom RCA cable. Run 2 RG6 coax cables to that TV. This is the same type of cable as regular TV cable. You have to run 2 because one coax is the left audio (think red color in the pre-made RCA cables) and then the other coax represents the right audio (the white color in pre-made RCA cables) Make sure your TV at that location has audio OUT with RCA, and if not you would have to get a converter. You can crimp RCA connectors on the RG6 cable using this amzn.to/2YJUYwq and this compression tool amzn.to/3ts5TZW
@@TheKMZ1 thank you I guess since I am going to buy RG 6 then I guess I will run RG6 to the two TVs, two cable each like you said Now looking at the back of ws66i I on the web site I only see 35mm jacks marked as source 1to 6 I guess I am confused on where should I connect the two RCA as left and Right Do you have a video talking about how to connect the sources Thanks
@@mueenel the WS66i has 2 RCA inputs on the back so they would plug in there. But why not only run 1 tv with rca and the other with the long optical cable?
@thekmz1 This video and your whole home audio series have been extremely helpful to me. I have all my wiring done and my Soundavo WS66i came in this week. I began the setup which was pretty straight forward, but the app was a little testy to connect, but when it connected it worked great. I was able to get both streaming sources to work, but then I had to disconnect the ethernet cords to tidy things up when I connected them back, none of the blue source lights on the front of the amp will come on nor will the amp connect. I also had not connected the keypad controls yet, but when it did none of the keypads will light up or connect. Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the videos.
It has 2 streamers, so you can have 2 different people streaming from whatever devices, but once a steamer is in use another device can't also use that one. So in other words it's just 2 devices period. But each zone on the amp can listen to whatever source it wants to. So if you had all 6 sources playing, then technically you could have all 6 zones playing something different. But in terms of the wireless streamers it's just the 2
Thank you for your help I solve my problem thanks to your advice ! Very happy with this purchase after figuring out the problem now I can see it’s a great amp . Thanks for your time and patience ! Great job keep the videos coming 👍
@@TheKMZ1 Yeah the auto connection didn’t connect I had to do it manually. ! Here’s the thing both api addresses WiFi streamers are show on my network so to find the i661 I went one number down from the streamer address and that it soundavo gives us many ways of finding the address I just try that way and it work . One number down or one number up from the streamer WiFi IP address and that’s the number the 3 ip where back to back last two numbers 37,38,39 ! Thanks again for your assistance
I just started your videos. Great info, thanks! I will be installing 14 zones with 14 input sources, mainly amazon echoes. What equipment do you suggest for that many input sources? Thanks
Thanks for watching my videos! If your devices are Amazon Echoes and if you don't need the whole home distribution function, then for just a multi-channel amplifier you can can consider Soundavo MZ-series amplifier. www.soundavo.com/collections/multi-channel-amplifiers th-cam.com/video/cfuekKxkESI/w-d-xo.html If you have more questions let me know!
I have RG6 cables ran that I planned on using to connect my dedicated audio sources. I would like to use the pre-out connection to my receiver as a source. Is there an RG6 to RCA converter that you recommend or should I run new RCA cable?
RG6 can be an RCA cable, there are no issues at all with doing that! You just need these connectors amzn.to/2M3gQQb and you'll probably need one of these compression tools amzn.to/2WR5r8w keep in mind, a standard RCA cable that has a red/white require 2 RG6 cables. Each RG6 cable represents only one of them. Let me know if you have any other questions
I need some help please. I got the W66si system but Trying to figure out how to hook my tv’s to this systems. How would I hook up 5 tv’s to 5 of my zones. I want the sound to come out the ceiling speakers for that room/TV location. Is this possible?
It's possible yes. For the WS66i you'd only be able to do 4 of them though, because 2 of the sources are the wireless streamers. That leaves 4 that you could plug in. You would do 2 as RCA sources and 1 could be an optical cable and 1 could be a 3.5mm cable. You could also use an adapter if you need to convert the 3.5mm to optical I think
On a 70v setup there are no zones. The amplifier has a rating, lets say 120w for example. A 70v system is just 1 giant long bus... meaning all the speakers are essentially chained together. Yes you can create "zones" by having an in-line volume knob to turn that set off, but it's still a giant bus. So the way you compute the wattage, is that you can have as many speakers as you want, as long as you dont go over the 120w. You simply add up the amount of speakers and the wattage. So you could have 24 total speakers at 5 watts... you could have 48 running at 2.5 watts, etc. It's just a numbers addition game that is all. Also, it's recommended to leave 10 to 20% wattage room. In other words dont have speakers that add up to exactly 120w. It could over stress the system. Instead, maybe only add up to 100w and leave the 20w of head room (in this example)
@@TheKMZ1 i have the monoprice 6 zone model 110761 with the 6 keypads and 20 speakers. All are 70v speakers with tap knobs .. Some of the 6 zones have only a single speaker and other zones have as many as 12 speakers .. So in order for me to set the tap settings in order to not go over the wattage output of each zone i would need to know what the maximum output for each zone is. Right?
Definitely going to be setting up a very similar speaker system in my new-build home. I made this decision based on your videos and recommendations, so thank you very much. What I wanted to know was if the WS66i streaming option let's you use TH-cam music as a streaming player? I subscribe to TH-cam Music so hoping it works. I do not see any info regarding that.
Thanks I've been loving mine still. Check out my TH-cam series on my channel, installing this from start to finish. Unfortunately no I don't believe TH-cam music is supported
Does it use the T568A or T568B wiring color code for the keypads ? Or can it use both ? The monoprice system says to use the T568A wiring color code...
Both amplifiers, (Soundavo, monoprice, even dayton dax66) they all can use either wiring T568A or T568B. The main thing is that they are straight through ethernet cables (same wiring on both ends). So for that matter you could make up your own wiring color code as long as it's the same on both ends you will be fine. Hope this helps!
Thanks for the video, I ordered the AMP version that without using the keypads, following your video for setup and everything works flawless, the App is easy to use. I don’t do Spotify but using the SiriusXM radio for the airplay function to do streaming on this amp. Do you know when is the new keypad coming? We might consider to install 2 or 3 in kid’s room.
Actually I’m enjoying play around on the supported control App for the source/zone selection, it’s fun. To add the keypads just other thoughts, not really need it right now. For considering to do the extra work for the keypads wiring, I think so far by using the App is fine.
Thanks for this great video. VERY helpful, i've been looking for an audio solution for my house which is all wired, but with old keypads from Aegis. I will keep reading and watching your videos, very educational. Thanks much.
I want to put has this but I’m concerned about the blue light that stays on when the system is off on the keypad. At night when the room is dark is it too bright?
There are ways to cover the blue light, check my channel I have a video about the monoprice blue light fix. I think if you type that in you'll find it! It's titled monoprice but works for this system as well
For a 12 zone system, could I buy this as the primary controller, and then buy the cheaper no-logo monoprice (which is 1/2 as much even after your discount code) as the secondary box to control the second 6 zones and still take advantage of the streaming sources and IP control?
So I tried to purchase a few days ago but it would not let me add it to my cart, I did get it add to my cart today, but it says your discount code is not valid on this item. Is there a new code?
What did you all have in the shopping cart? The code TKMZ is valid on the WS66i kit or WS66i amp only. I tested just now on the kit package and it worked, you aren't trying to add the keypads to the cart separately are you? And the code only works on 1 amp so If you had 2 in the cart you would have to do 2 separate transactions to get the better price
I have already purchased the Monoprice and am wondering what options are available to stream wirelessly from my iphone since the chromecast is no longer available?
Buy a chromecast on eBay, or you can hook an alexa up to your amp and create an alexa group in your Alexa app. Add all Alexas into that group and set the preferred speaker to be the echo dot plugged into the amp. Then no matter what echo you talk into the music will output through the echo plugged into the amp
@@the_bearded_anesthetist yes you can do that, so are you not wanting to use the keypads? Because if you are you will want more keypads not otherwise yes you don't need them if you don't plan to use them, and yes the soundavo will work with the monoprice! Use the coupon code to get you a good discount
25w per zone is the exact same as what monoprices "no logo" amp does. Soundavo has been around for several years, soundavo is the company that actually redesigned and created this. Monoprice didn't create theirs they are just a reseller that's why it's called "no logo". And no, 25w is not weak for home audio, trust me when I say I could throw a massive house party. If I had it turned all the way up you could not have a conversation
@@TheKMZ1 so it’s 2021 and many of these products were feature lacking for smart capabilities and ease of use with phones/streaming/airplay etc So I loooked a little at this model you’re advertising here. I’m planning for a 6 zone install and was only aware of the mono price and htd amp. Found your video last night and researching more into it.
@@manoj93sharma exactly, and the monoprice is one of the most popular and widely used amps. So that's why Soundavo came along and made it the same, except brought it up a little more the current times with technology. Check out my channel series I did, whole home audio from start to finish, I installed the soundavo system in my 2 story house and showed every step of the way to completion
I added a Bluetooth receiver to mine and then I connect the Bluetooth OUT of my TV to my home audio system. It’s not 5.1, but it uses my in ceiling speakers just fine and sounds great.
You'll need a separate receiver for a surround system in your living room. This system is designed for background music throughout a home. However it's easy to wire the two together! Just run an RCA cable from one of the zone outs on the soundavo to an AUX in on the surround receiver you choose. You can also do vice versa, so if the AV surround receiver has a 'zone 2 out' (this can get confusing lol) you can come OUT of your AV receiver and INTO the soundavo as a source. That way, you can hear audio from your TV throughout your home.
We've got more great things coming from Soundavo for whole home audio, so please stick around! Many more developments coming! :)
hi there @TheKMZ1 - how does this compare to Martin Logan 8zone-16 channel - MDA16? and also Triad systems?
Awesome series!!! Any luck on creating that Alexa skill you mentioned too be able to control the ws66i from Alexa and/or Google Home? Been looking for a solution to send RS-232 commands from Alexa/GH. Kind of got something working with TRIGGERcmd kicking off .bat files on my PC but seems like there should be a better and easier way. Any ideas?
Can out have the tv audio in the living room and music in the patio playing at the same time?
Just purchased my first WS66i kit based off of these videos! What do you recommend speaker wise if I want to run 4 speakers to 4 of the 6 zones? Will that be too much for the amp? Should I look at adding additional amps? Anything I should be considering speaker wise? Appreciate your comments.
Just wanted to comment to say thanks for answering so many questions in the comments! Its really helpful!
No problem I have enjoyed helping people out on my TH-cam channel!
Great video, was inspired by your previous videos so it's great to see an update! Do you know if it would be possible to connect this up to be controlled with Home Assistant instead of the app? Thanks
Hey KMZ1, thanks for your app support for monoprice amps!! just to confirm your monoprice app and the rs232 interface does not work on the osd bma-6012p aka 31028 - Monoprice 6 Zone Home Audio ...
I would need to develop my own app for the 31028? Correct?
Just curious if you'd rather go with the setup you have in the video, or a sonos system?
I would rather go with my setup again, I think it's better for the money. Sonos is good yes, but damn it's expensive. Plus I have had issues with their wireless pairing of speakers. In general hard wiring is better. yes it's more work to do and harder but once that wire is there you are set for good.
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you for the reply and perspective on this. I'll either go with this system, or the one HTD has to offer. I like their Alexa integration.
Thanks for the great info. I would like to upgrade my keypads. They currently have 4 colored wires in the back. They are just a volume knob. Can I upgrade to these new keypads?? Thanks Jack
Thanks for your Whole Home Audio Video Serie. I love loved it. I just have a probably a stupid question. Do the key pads need to be connected to the hub and then directly to the AMP? Or can those be connected through the network?
Sorry for the late reply, they are not connected to the network and they cannot be either. That is because the keypads are not a networked device, they are actually kinda dumb, they simply using the ethernet cable as the means to connect them. Ethernet cable is easy to come by and cheap, so that is what they used, so that simply allows them to be powered and send the digital signals back to the amp. Otherwise there is no network address or any kind of NIC in these! Thanks!
Hi, We finally got the new house ready and I am looking to install the Audio system. Can you please list the parts and if you let me know the best place to buy them. So far I need a total of 30 ceiling speakers 2 outdoor speakers. We going to have 4 to 5 sources and about 6 zones. I have a cat6 home run for volume control all the way to the audio room and all the speakers and source cables are also in the same audio room. I guess ur recommendation was the Soundavo WS66i. Please let me know. Thank you for your help
I have a question. I moved into my house that has all these wall device like your but they are not digital. They are the press buttons one. I notice in the living room all the cables run over there. The home owner that lived here took everything and left the cables. Now I'm stuck figuring out how all this works. I notice were the cables come out they have the green connectors. What is the best device to connect everything but not so expensive. Just want to use the speakers since they are installed already. Maybe use it for tv or streaming from Spotify if possible.
Please let me know when you have a moment.
Thanks,
Is it possible to purchase a replacement remote? I purchased this a few months ago and the remote never worked. I assumed I needed some other product to make it work but I'm realizing now that it should actually work out the box. The app and keypads work fine but now I'm realizing how the remote would be handy!
I don't use mine, it's brand new. Want to buy it?
Oh boy. After months of waiting for my new home construction to be finished, my unit seems defective. Hoping Soundavo supports me through this. The house is all pre-wired and ready for holiday music.
What kind of issues are you seeing? Yes don't worry, they will get you through it. If not, let me know and I can help assist some people I know on that side to email
@@TheKMZ1 It turns on but seems to partially turn off right away. There's a red light on inside, and the ethernet port flashes. The app won't recognize its IP address.
I'm in communication with Soundavo, but my work schedule is getting in the way. I'll have to wait a couple days to get back to them..I'll keep you updated. I'll be very very happy to see this working!
I have already ran cat5e cables to all my locations and now I don't really have to use keypads with the WS66i, what's your suggestion in regard to using keypads? Also, do you recommend waiting for the new keypads to buy the kit or just buy just the amp now and get the new keypads when they come out?
Even though you don't HAVE to use keypads, my opinion and suggestion is to use them if you can. Because guests are more likely to use or adjust it if it's on the wall. If you ever sell your house, having them already there is more attractive. Buyers don't want to feel like they are going into something that have no clue about. I find myself using the keypads 60% of the time and the app 40% so my view is the app is great, but I would use the keypads a little more. The keypads really do look nice on the wall. I would get the system now, and then later decide if you like the new version of the keypad or not. You may not even like the way the new one looks, who knows!
Heyo KMZ1! It's been a long year, but we finally closed on our home 3 weeks ago. I am finally just now looking at buying the equipment (ws66i), and speakers. Everything is on Black Friday discounts for massive savings through November 30th, and I hope I can use your coupon for even more savings, but we'll see! What I wanted to write in about before placing orders for everything were as follows: First, how has your ws66i/speakers/setup been working for you this past year, are you still enjoying it? Any new pros/cons you've run across in this past years use? Second, if I decide to use a single speaker per channel, per zone, is there a way for me to have specific zones run as mono (like a switch per zone), or would I have to physically wire both speakers to the same channel within a zone to achieve mono? Options? Third, I've re-watched your video several times on the Soundavo IC-8" and IC-6.5" in ceiling speakers, and what concerns me is that their backs are not enclosed and when reaching out to Soundavo about obtaining a BackBox for these, they say they don't make them so anything like that I would want to do I would have to do on my own. I don't understand why anyone would install an in-ceiling speaker without a BackBox when the speaker has an open back that's not enclosed. I've spent 10's of hours researching this over the past year and I can't find any forum, community, nor installer that advises installing these as is. The amount of sound loss, low bass reproduction, sound projection, and sound bleeding through your walls and/or ceiling into other rooms within your home have pretty much scared me away from these speakers. The speakers look phenomenal, are at a great price, are rated perfectly to match the ws66i, but I just don't know that I could feel confident installing them without an enclosed back, which is why I keep leaning back to the JBL 26C. Can you give me your thoughts/perspective on this?
Hello! Sorry for the late reply, been traveling for the Holidays! Unfortunately my coupon code will not work for black friday but it should continue to work afterwards. If I were you, you should do the Black Friday deal. Over the past year everything has held up perfectly. I have not had any issues, nor have I had to replace anything. We use the system daily... my kids like to listen to low volume music when they go to bed. Regarding your mono question, yes each zone has a switch on the back and you can change it from mono to stereo... although If i were you, i'd try to use stereo as much as possible. It will sound much better. You will find that there are not many speaker making companies that include the back on the speakers. So you should pick the speakers you truly want to have, and then you could build some kind of a custom box if you want to. But yes most companies don't.
@TheKMZ1 Thanks for the great video! Do you know what the bit depths are of this? I can see the sampling rate is up to 192 kHz. Thanks!
Just wanted to thank Kadin for the great information he provides , based on his channel I ended up ordering 1 Ws66i Kit and 1 WS66i slave
Any issues just let me know
Thanks for reviewing this amp! In my upcoming renovation I will need about 10 zones, can I use this amp as the master and the dayton or monoprice as the slave?
Yes, you can technically do that! In my demonstration, i technically had a mixed situation like you describe. :)
Great question, as this may be my upgrade path!
@@TheKMZ1 when you say ‘technically” is functionality or degradation of performance you lose in mixing? I don’t see a reason to purchase another WS66i ($$$) since the 2nd WS66i is going to be a slave unit . As a slave the source features, streamers etc.... are redundant and not in play? Will the WS66i app control the slave (Dayton or Mono) speakers wirelessly and can those slave speakers be controlled viA the mono/Dayton wall controls. Finally , Can I mix wall mounts and wireless control within the same WS66I ( I have locations where a wall control is not feasible within a WS66i)
@@timp.2693 There is no functionality degradation or performance issues when mixing the ws66i with the monoprice or dayton units as your slave units. the app works with it just fine and the wall controls work the same. So no issues at all
I am in the market but am unsure how it all works.
How many speakers can be run for each zone?
Can I get my Apple Music to work? The house uses all Apple products.
I have an entire series on my TH-cam channel that you'll really like. It's called installing whole home audio from start to finish. These amps are meant for 2 speakers in a zone but you can get max 4 speakers in a zone as well, I also have a video on my channel named how to get 3 or more speakers in a zone
@TheKMZ1 Any updade on this. Are you still using it? How well do the built in network streamers. Have they added any native apps to stream (like pandora)? How well does Airplay and Chromecast work? Reading the PDF of the WS66i, looks like they added Pandora? What can you say about that?
How does the bluetooth KBR1 devices work? They resemble the zone switches mounted on the wall, but I can't find any information on how they work or connect via the ethernet.
Great video, and thank you for what you're doing ! I'm building right now and I plan to use this system. I see there is a holiday sale now, and your discount. Is your discount always available? If not, how often do they have sales? I don't want to buy now and leave it in the box for 6 months if I can avoid it. But, I'd rather save $500 if I can. Can I wait and still save with your discount? Does your code only work on the unit with the older controllers?
I don't see anything about support for iTunes (Apple Music). Do they offer a way to stream Apple Music? I do have the option of a Sonos device I could connect, but if it's native I think that would be better. Thanks again!
I think they only do holiday says around thanksgiving and christmas. Yes my code will still work outside of that, so you should still be able to save in 6 months. The discount code works on the controller and non-controller units. You can only use the discount code once per email address, so i think you could buy one unit with one email address and my discount code, and then do another separate order to be able to use it again. You can use the airplay streamers to stream apple music right? I am not an apple user so i am a little limited in this area lol but the amps have airplay streamers in them. Otherwise yes absolutely you can hook in another source into the back of it, check out my series on my channel, "Whole home audio from start to finish" if you havent seen that already. Thanks for watching
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you! It looks like the code is only available on the one with the old controllers. If that's not right please let me know. I think I'm going to order tomorrow, and would like to make sure you get credit for the sale if possible. The LCD controllers seem worth the extra cost. Do you agree?
BTW, yes I've see the recommended video. You do great videos! Liked and subscribed. Yes, you can use airplay streamers, so that would work. Thank you for the tremendously quick response!
@@stevec3537 if you are building a house absolutely the controllers are worth it in my opinion!
Do any of these support youtube music? I dont use any of these streaming services ....
I recall from one of your vids that you used 3 or even 4 core speaker cable. Which did you use? Reason I’m asking is that I tried using three core for two speakers (shared ground) but this didn’t work, one speaker was very quiet and it caused audio to cut out repeatedly…
In my videos i use either 2 conductor or 4 conductor cable. I have a video where I talk about installing 3 speakers, 4 speakers, or even more speakers in 1 zone. Each speaker has to have a Left and a Right cable hooked up to it. I am not sure what you mean by a shared ground cable.
Do you know/suggest a rotary volume control compatible with this amp? Need to use standard volume controller with this amp as house is wired with speaker wire at volume control and not Ethernet.
Since this has no casting receiver for Android I have a question about the zoning ability via this amps app in combination with an exterior Chromecast enabled internet radio. The radio is a grace link, it also has an app and (I believe) separate Chromecast casting function built in. Now, this thing is universal to nearly every stream app, apple products, and android...holy grail. If I get the ws66i and this grace link, could I still use the zoning on the amp and it's application? I worry about this radio strictly requiring the use of it's app for casting, in that case could I still utilize the amps zoning function (apps side-by-side or in conjunction)? Does the amp app require streaming pass through for it to work? I don't want to have to press any buttons at all haha
Great video! Looking to purchase this new kit! I have also watched your speaker video reviewing the different types of speakers you had purchased but since I'm in the UK this isn't an option for me.
I am just confused on what speaker to buy. I'm I correct in saying that the max output of a speaker can only be 25watt? So 2x 25watt speakers per zone? What if I found a speaker that is 50watt? Could I still connect a 2x 50watt speaker?
Also what is the different between the two options at the back, Stero and Bridged?
Thanks
Yes if you found a 50w speaker it would still work fine with this amplifier. The difference between stereo and bridged is that stereo means you have a left channel and a right channel for audio. Bridged means it becomes a mono sound, it does not send the audio out in 2 separate channels. Bridged mode is usually meant to combine the 2 into only 1 higher output speaker. Most people keep it in stereo mode
Are you still able to make the 18 pin cable connectors? I need one for my system.
Can you explain little more about input sources how to wire up all six sources
Check out my channel "installing whole home audio from start to finish"
Hello, I have my house pre-wired with 6 zones (12) speakers and each zone is wired for a volume control. Will this system support my setup? Will the keypads work with the volume control?
Are your volume controls speaker cable volume controls? Or is Ethernet cable ran to where the volume controls are??
Bro!! Just saved 540$!! By using your code. You da man
Enjoy, you'll love it
Awesome videos! I am wanting to install a 6 Zone in my Airbnb rental for my guests (probably still going for the mono-price) one question I had was on your video from about 2 years ago where you described your setup at your home using the mono price amp. How did you get the RCA wall input in the kitchen how does the back of the wall plug look like? Is there RCA cables going back to the amp itself? Only part I am confused about. Great videos!
Thanks for watching! I think you'll be happy then, to know of my upcoming series i'm recording, where i'm showing installing whole home audio from start to finish in my new house we bought. (Not new but new to us) To answer your question, the RCA cables are custom made by using RG6 cable. This is just standard TV coax cable. Use RCA compression connectors amzn.to/3dUCzno and here are the crimpers amzn.to/35sG2G3 You have to use 2 separate cables. I use keystone jacks like this then which make up the wall plate amzn.to/31CElEW amzn.to/2J1gaJL amzn.to/3ks6YM7 Hopefully this helps! Hope you subscribe and tune in to my series coming soon. I hope to have video 1 up in the next several days, and hoping to get the entire series project completed by end of year!
I Really like this unit. I'm building a new home and am planning to install this. My question is: I have a old stereo receiver/amp that I want to use in my man cave with my 4 JBL Jubal L65s speakers and run Bluetooth off the receiver to also stream off the Monoprice. The receiver is located in a room about 200' and one floor down from where I plan to mount the Monoprice. Do you have any suggestions on how I can achieve this? (Obviously I'm not very conversant with this stuff). Thanks for nay help.
Have you added any Bluetooth receivers? I'm looking at a few inwall mounted options to control 2 speakers in a home guy setting use a phone to play music through inwall speakers. The inwall bluetooth receiver (source) looks like they use cat6 wire. Any advice?
I want to install 10 speakers what are all the components i need to order ?
Please watch my other videos on my channel, they are great resources. But you need the WS66i amplifier, use my code TKMZ to get a good discount. You need speakers, speaker wire, and ethernet cable (if you are installing the keypads) that's about it
Thanks for reviewing! Just wondering since there are 2 streamers are you only able to play 2 different audio/songs for multiple zones? Also if you still want the ability to cast can you just add chromecast audio's to this? And can you play audio at different volumes in each separate zone through the app and together?
Thank you!
Since there are 2 streamers, yes you can stream 2 separate things at once, and those can be played in any of the zones. If you want more streaming capability, you can still add a chromecast audio to one of the other sources, or you can also use an RCA to 3.5mm cable such as this amzn.to/3jDe0x9 and you can hook up your phone, ipad etc. Hopefully this answers your question, if you have all 6 sources being utilized, then you can technically listen to 6 completely different things, in any of the 6 zones. Each zone is independently controlled with volume, source, EQ etc.
Kadin,
Great channel! I really appreciate all the information you are putting out there. I have a few questions. I’m installing a large system with about 15 zones all together. How many amps will I need? Also what speakers would recommend for a garage and a front porch? The porch speakers will be installed in the overhang and will not be getting wet.
Thanks in advance! Keep up the good work!
Don, sorry for the late reply i'm not sure how i missed your comment. 15 zones, you would need 3 amplifiers. You could get 1 WS66i and use my code to save money, and then get 2 monoprice 6 zone amplifiers which will also save you more money and they will work just fine with these. You would link them all together and you'd have a system capable of up to 18 zones sharing the 6 sources!
Hi again,
Can you tell me what speakers you would install in a bathroom and what 4” speakers you like? Appreciate it!
Thanks!
TheKMZ1: Based on your reassurance, I just ordered it and looking forward to the delivery.
Features/ specs look great and I hope the device lives up to the promise!
Let the Soundavo guys know that you did the sale for them 😉
Hello, I really appreciate what you’re doing. One question that I have, do I put in each zone and auxiliary port or Bluetooth?
Hey great video man.. are we able to connect 4 speaker in each zone with this amplifier?
yes you can, it all depends on how you wire it. The amps specifications are: Output Power: 25W x 2 per zone (at 8Ω), Output Power: 50W x 2 per zone (at 4Ω), Output Power: 100W per zone (Bridged at 8Ω). So therefore, to get 4 speakers in 1 zone, you could wire 2 8 ohm speakers in parallel, and that would have 1 pair (+ and -) going back to the amp. Then wire your next set pair of speakers also in parallel, and this is completely independent of your first set you just did. If you use 8 ohm speakers, this means that the amp would see a 4 ohm load for your left channel and also a 4 ohm load on your right channel, which is completely fine and within the limits of the amp. The amp doesn't know or care that you have 2 speakers in your left channel , and 2 speaker sin your right channel, it just knows that the incoming speaker impedance is 4 ohms and that makes it happy. Subscribe to my channel and i'll probably do a video on this, as i get a lot of questions! Thanks
Thanks very much
This question may have already been answered or I am not understanding correctly. I am concerned about output power. Specs for this unit say Output Power: 25W x 2 per zone (at 8Ω). Ceiling speakers I am seeing are ~60W RMS. I heard a rule of thumb for picking out an amp is to have double the RMS of the speaker. Is the output power enough on this unit? Would like to get 8Ω ceiling speakers with this unit. Appreciate all your videos!
You are correct, this particular amplifier is 25w per speaker. I dont think it's low in my opinion. If we reference JL audios own publication jlaudio.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/217201737-Doubling-Power-vs-Doubling-Output and this is also written in many other places (so it's not a made up concept) but doubling power does not make it sound "twice as loud". So doubling power even to 50 watts per speaker would have subtle differences in the actual SPL levels heard by our ears. Yes it'd be a little louder but subtly. In my own experience with this amp that I'm using (since 2017) it can get more than enough loud. It can throw a party. Thanks for watching and for the comment!!
@@TheKMZ1 Great information, really appreciate it!
Hi, I have total 14 speakers to set in 6 zones. 2-dining, 2-bedroom, 2-second floor hall way, 2-patio, 3-masterbedrrom+bathroom, 3-First floor hall way. Connecting 2 speakers to a zone is pretty clear. My question is that, how can I connect 3 speakers to a zone? Please advise!
My video here will help you :) th-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/w-d-xo.html
@@TheKMZ1 Great video! Thank you!
I moved into a home with a bunch of these 4 pin connectors. How do I get a unit to support this without spending freaking 1200 bucks! Seems really expensive.
Hi Thank you for a great demo of this amplifier. My biggest question is, I would need 2 because I have 12 zones in my home with 3 zones bridged in the main family room. So 2 questions can I bridge/combine the 3 zones?
Second question because HEOS can’t do this which is why I’m watching this video. We have the family Spotify package so our 5 individual accounts are my wife and I, my 2 children and a zone for the house. Can all 5 Spotify accounts access any of the 12 zones or really 9 because I’d have 3 combined zones. I hope that makes sense. With HEOS it’s 1 Spotify account per unit so we’re not going with them
Yes I think all Spotify accounts can access, because you don't add Spotify to the unit, instead when your unit is on the local network and your phone also, the Spotify app sees the streamers online and allows you to cast to the device. That means it shouldn't matter what account is signed in, they should all see the available streaming devices on your network. Also, there's only 2 streamers in the unit, it means only 2 people can listen to different things at a time. Any of your zones can listen to any source they want to, but it's just that there's only 2 streamers which means only 2 of your family members can stream different things at a time. Hopefully that makes sense!
Great video and review. I would not have found this product without you. Would you happen to know what the warranty is on the Soundavo? I can’t seem to find any information on their website other than a 30 day return for defects?
Thx John Brunswick Maine
Hello how do you connect a subwoofer to the pre amp output, where I can use with any zone?
If I buy one of these, will it be able to connect to and control an older monoprice unit, or does it only scale with Soundavo units?
It scales with the monoprice yes! So buy the Soundavo and use it as your master, then you could use monoprice as your slaves
Hi, great channel..
Does the led lights on the keypads stays ON at all times or it goes OFF when we turn that zone off ?
Thank you in advance.
They stay on all the time, but i have a video on my channel showing how you can cover it up / dim it.
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you for your fast response, I just saw your other video about of how to cover up, great idea!
Very helpful all your videos.
What is the difference between this amp vs a receiver? Price? Function?
Price wise, a standard receiver would be a little cheaper. But function wise, is where they are different. These are specifically built for these whole home audio applications, with independent zones that can be controlled. Each zone can independently tune in to any source that it wants to listen to. So you could have 6 zones, listening to 6 different things, or any combination of whatever you want. Each zone can determine that by using the digital keypads. Any of the zones can be on or off, and can be controlled with a phone/tablet. A standard receiver usually has many source inputs, but whatever is the selected source would play out of every speaker, you don't have that granular ability to tell what speakers to listen to what. Also, most receivers you wouldn't have any kind of smart phone control. With a standard receiver, you could hook up analog rotary volume controls, but that is all you get control over, is volume. Hopefully this helps!
What gauge of speaker wire did you use for this project?
@TheKMZ1 I just tried the discount code on the Amp only. (don't have lan cables ran in the house for control panels) it is not working. Is there an updated code? happy holidays!
I think they are running a holiday special right now so it's just temporarily disabled since they are running their own special at the moment
I've read about how bright and some what annoying the keypads are. Does Soundavo fix that? Can this amp be integrated with smart switches like the Brilliant Switch?
I have a video on my channel talking about the keypad brightness th-cam.com/video/RLN7CAil3a4/w-d-xo.html This is still currently the only way to modify it. This amp has ethernet and RS232 control, so it can be integrated into smart systems (such as Control 4 for example) so I can't comment directly about the Brilliant Switch, but in general yes the amp has control integration capabilities.
Hello and thanks for reviewing this and explaining things... One question I had was what do you use as a PreAmp for this amplifier? Can you use an existing AV receiver EX. Onkyo? Thanks.
To use the pre-amp your other amplifier just needs to accept RCA input. The pre-amp out is nice, because that allows you to still control the volume, source, EQ, etc using the keypad, but the speakers are being powered by the other amp. So think of pre-amp out as just passing along the source data, into the other amp, and the other amp is actually powering it.
Can the amplifier be hookup the audio/video system or like surround sound setup. I would like see if I hookup like one zone my tv in the living room? I hope you understand my questions.
Yes you can do that! Please watch this video where I talk about that th-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/w-d-xo.html
Awesome video! very informative. do you know if it would it be possible to use a keypad from a different brand with the soundavo?
No, I dont think it's possible to use a keypad from another brand. Soundavo is however, making an LCD backlit keypad version and it should be out around Q2 2021. When it comes out i'll do a video on it!
Unfortunately, after purchasing the amplifier will not connect via the wsi66 app. I've sent it to Soundavo and it won't work. Frustrated. Any suggestions?
Yeah I have some ideas, also Soundavo has good support and it the amp is defective don't worry they will get you taken care of. You can also email me support@kztechconsulting.com
I wondered what I should do because I am looking to get one of these amplifiers and have in ceiling speakers in all my rooms but I want to build a surround sound system for my home theater room and I want to know what to I should do, should I get a separate amplifier to control the surround sound in my theater or can I use this amplifier for surround sound in one room while not using it for surround sound in my other rooms but I was wondering if it would be possible to still use the soundavo software and just play music through the surround speakers and then go back to using them for surround for films, I am relatively new to this type of audio so if you could help then that would be great
The WS66i has what are called "pre-amp outputs" on the back. I made a video about that here: th-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/w-d-xo.html and I think you'll really find it helpful! I demonstrate and talk about how you could have a theater amp hooked up exactly like you are describing. Basically, pre amp outs pass the source data like volume, EQ, etc through to another amplifier. And you hook your speakers into the other external amp...in your case your speakers for that zone (your home theater zone) are hooked up and powered by the whole home amp. But, you plug the pre-amp outsputs into an input of your home theater amp. When your home theater amp is tuned to that source, your wall keypad and everything will still control it since it's passing the source data, volume, eq etc into the home theater amp. Yes, this does mean you need your home theater amp on all the time and it would be tuned to that source 90% of the time. When it is TV or Movie time, you would switch your source to like the HDMI tv source or whatever source has the movie audio. Hopefully this makes sense and hopefully that video helps!
@@TheKMZ1 Thank you so much, also that was a very fast response, your videos have been amazing and I really appreciate you explaining it and you explained it really well in your other video, even simple enough for me. All your videos have answered every question that I have had now and I actually have a much better understanding of how it all works.
Looks like the added two streamers come at the cost of the source 3 & 4 RCA inputs on the rear. If you want the streaming that's great, but otherwise this is now only a four source system.
I noticed that too. Not sure why that wasn’t talked about.
It does come at the cost of removing 2 of the RCA, there are still 2 left. In my experience talking with many people, most people did not use the RCA's at all, let alone 4 of them. So yes if someone needed specifically more RCA then this may not be the amp to go with. Thanks for watching!
@@TheKMZ1 How do most people hook up their inputs to this unit. Sorry don't knwo the terminology on the back very well.
@@paulyeager6534 your options are either RCA inputs, or there's a 3.5mm input, a digital optical input, or the wireless streaming
@@TheKMZ1 So are there only 4 inputs total of mine and then the two streamers are zones?
Hello
Great video , in the process of building and this is very helpful. I also enjoyed your speaker selection video and in the process to purchase the 8 inch version. I’m a little confused, so here is my question. I have 22 zones (2 speakers per zone), snd some of these areas/rooms are close to each other. Can I hook up 3 to 4 speakers to 1 zone. Trying to limit the amount of WS66i’s that I need to purchase.
Yes check out my channel I have a video talking about 3 and 4 speakers in a zone and demonstrate it!
How would you compare the new Dayton Audio DAX88 to the WS66i?
@theKMZ1 Hoping you read this! I'm working on a small VBS-like project for my church, and was wondering if this amp, using a USB stick, can play specific media to each zone via the app. I know it's such a simple request, but I'm trying to have music as well as ambient sound for a camping theme. Looks like a no-brainer to me if it will work as I believe it can!
You can have each zone play something different, but not from the same source. What i mean is, 1 usb stick plugged in is just 1 source. You can't have that usb stick playing multiple things, it's only ever playing 1 thing, and each zone can tune into that source if it wants to... or it can tune into a different source. So you can play 6 different things in each zone yes, but that means you have 6 different sources plugged in and playing different things. Hopefully this example makes sense
@@TheKMZ1 Absolutely. Thank you for replying! Is there any other way to provide more local sources?
@@NovaFox238 you would need a different amp such as the soundavo MZ (multi-zone) amp. Please watch my video on my channel titled something like this. The 3 most popular amps people use.
Hello, pretty cool features on this Soundavo amp. I know you swapped it out for one of your Dayton Audios, is the Soundavo specs exactly same as Daytons/Monoprice in terms of ohms, watts, etc.
Yes
Thanks for the code just bought the system! I was waiting for something like this.
No problem! Thank you, any questions or issues you know where to find me
where did you buy it?
@@sdlangdon7468 check my link in the description, plus the code TKMZ will get you $550 off.
@@TheKMZ1 Do you know if it expires? My house won't be finished till late next year.
@@Zinic_ no it should not expire
I see how you connected your Alexa to this but my question is there no way to have Alexa from any echo device control the independent zones? For example ask Alexa to turn on zone1 or zone2? Your example just streams the music to that particular source. I want to be able to control the ability to control each zone independently either through alexa or Smartthings.
Correct, there is currently no way to control the zones in that manor yet. Until I build an Alexa skill lol
Thanks for the great video. I was considering to use Sonos Amp per zone for my 6 zone setup hooking up my Denon AVR to it. I see you gave compared Soundavo Amp with Denon HEOS..
Can you please update / consider comparing with the Sonos Amp?
I would need to shell out 3600$ just for the Amps.
1. What would one miss if they were to use Soundavo Amp instead of Sonos?
2. Is there an iPhone App ? How to control music zone / source etc if we chose not to go with the keypads?
3. What’s the RMS power output for each zone ? (compared to Sonos Amp)
4. Can we bridge (merge) two zones into one zone to connect say 4 in-ceiling speakers ?
Please check out my channel, I have many other videos that you will find helpful such as connecting 3, 4, and even many more speaker into 1 zone. Yes there is an iPhone app to control the soundavo. I think you should seriously consider it because it's a great amp and you'll save a lot of money
You can also hook up external amps as well, into the soundavo. I detail that in my video on my channel titled: pre-amp out, how to hook up 3,4 or hundreds of speakers into 1 zone. I also talk about how you would hook up your surround sound amp into the soundavo
Is the WS66i Roon Ready?
Great video. I'm sold. Do you know if Soundavo can take orders over the phone? I have a rebate debit card I would like to use for most of the purchase, and the Soundavo site would not allow for a split purchase.
Yes I think they can, if you have troubles getting ahold of someone let me know
You talked about new design for the wall controls, can you point at more information about that new design?
I will do a video on them when they are ready (I'm not sure when they will be ready, and i'm not sure what they will look like) but Soundavo is designing new ones now, they are gearing to be a more higher end look, similar to the amplifier how it's appearance is more higher end. Will keep everyone updated!
Are there any interfaces between the Soundavo WS66i and other amps? I have a Denon amp that is not connected to my cabinet and looking to be able to tie the Soundavo Ws66i to the Denon amp. Please advise. Thank you! Rich
Using the pre-amp outputs on the WS66i, you can use the Denon amp to power speakers while that becomes a zone on the WS66i. I have a video on my channel talking about the pre-amp outputs
This is great for my next project. I need something like this for commercial 70/100v speakers. can I connect Soundavo speaker out with 70/100v amp line input and use it for commercial speakers. or is ther any easy way? I need about 10 speapers for Zone 1, 2 speakers for Zone2, 8 speakers for zone 3.... something like that.
and I am gonna use JBL 8124 for ceiling and Control 25i for wall mount. (is there any other recommendation?)
Thank you!!
Thank you your information and help!!!!
Thank you. Just bought it using your code!
Since the chrome cast is no longer available, what are the options for just streaming off your phone wirelessly from sources not supported in the unit?
wait, they took chomecast away?
Hi! thank you for posting this great video. I just bought the WS66i ( amp only) and I am looking forward to installing it. I have a question... Can more than one iphone with the app installed control the amp? Like my iphone and my wife's? iphone both control the amp? So I can use my phone to listen to one input in the living room and my wife can use her phone to choose the input for the kitchen?
Yes that's correct, you can have the app installed on multiple phones and can control the amp and cast music from either one. Thanks for buying and I'll be doing more videos soon, including showing how you can connect 3 and even 4 speakers in 1 zone. And I'll be doing a larger video in me installing this amp and speakers in my existing 2 story house!
@@TheKMZ1 Did you create the video about hooking up more than two speakers to 1 zone? I have a number of speakers that are close and would be better if they were combined into a single zone. Thanks
@@kevingormley679 yes I did! It's on my channel
@@TheKMZ1 Thanks. I watched it! Follow-up questions - Why did you decide to get the wall mounted controlers if you can use the app? I am on the fence about getting them. Also, is the app able to control playing music on a usb drive?
@@kevingormley679 I did the wall controllers/ key pads because in my opinion it gives a higher end look. Also if I ever sell my house, I want the new owners to not feel like they have no idea how to run it, and guests are more likely to use it too, if they are on the wall. But this is just my opinion and it's totally fine to just control it with the app!
What is the Bluetooth range I have 4500sqft home installing my media and a closet inside the garage would the Bluetooth reach around 100 ft raduis ?
It doesn't use Bluetooth, it uses your network connection for that reason actually. In big houses it's not a problem as long as you have good WiFi your phone can control it no issues
How can make my tv in the master bedroom and in the living room to be a source? What kind of cable do I need to run?
How far away are your TVs from your amplifier? Approximately how many feet
@@TheKMZ1 first Tv about 50 feet and the 2nd tv close to a 125 feet
For the short run, i would use an optical cable like this amzn.to/36ICJf5 you can also get a 75 ft one at that same link if you wanted. But over 100ft you cannot use optical. So for your 2nd TV, your option would be to make yourself a long custom RCA cable. Run 2 RG6 coax cables to that TV. This is the same type of cable as regular TV cable. You have to run 2 because one coax is the left audio (think red color in the pre-made RCA cables) and then the other coax represents the right audio (the white color in pre-made RCA cables) Make sure your TV at that location has audio OUT with RCA, and if not you would have to get a converter. You can crimp RCA connectors on the RG6 cable using this amzn.to/2YJUYwq and this compression tool amzn.to/3ts5TZW
@@TheKMZ1 thank you
I guess since I am going to buy RG 6 then I guess I will run RG6 to the two TVs, two cable each like you said
Now looking at the back of ws66i I on the web site I only see 35mm jacks marked as source 1to 6
I guess I am confused on where should I connect the two RCA as left and Right
Do you have a video talking about how to connect the sources
Thanks
@@mueenel the WS66i has 2 RCA inputs on the back so they would plug in there. But why not only run 1 tv with rca and the other with the long optical cable?
I have wired my house for 7 zones. Can I use the mono price amp as a slave to the Soundavo , so I don’t have to buy 2 Soundavos ?
Yes you can do that
@thekmz1 This video and your whole home audio series have been extremely helpful to me. I have all my wiring done and my Soundavo WS66i came in this week. I began the setup which was pretty straight forward, but the app was a little testy to connect, but when it connected it worked great. I was able to get both streaming sources to work, but then I had to disconnect the ethernet cords to tidy things up when I connected them back, none of the blue source lights on the front of the amp will come on nor will the amp connect. I also had not connected the keypad controls yet, but when it did none of the keypads will light up or connect. Any advice or guidance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again for the videos.
Hey Ted, sure thing I'd love to help you out. Please email me at support@kztechconsulting.com
With it having air play, does this allow you to stream from different devices in different zones or is it one device at a time can stream
It has 2 streamers, so you can have 2 different people streaming from whatever devices, but once a steamer is in use another device can't also use that one. So in other words it's just 2 devices period. But each zone on the amp can listen to whatever source it wants to. So if you had all 6 sources playing, then technically you could have all 6 zones playing something different. But in terms of the wireless streamers it's just the 2
Thank you for your help I solve my problem thanks to your advice ! Very happy with this purchase after figuring out the problem now I can see it’s a great amp . Thanks for your time and patience ! Great job keep the videos coming 👍
Wonderful! What ended up being the issue?
@@TheKMZ1 Yeah the auto connection didn’t connect I had to do it manually. ! Here’s the thing both api addresses WiFi streamers are show on my network so to find the i661 I went one number down from the streamer address and that it soundavo gives us many ways of finding the address I just try that way and it work . One number down or one number up from the streamer WiFi IP address and that’s the number the 3 ip where back to back last two numbers 37,38,39 ! Thanks again for your assistance
I just started your videos. Great info, thanks! I will be installing 14 zones with 14 input sources, mainly amazon echoes. What equipment do you suggest for that many input sources? Thanks
Thanks for watching my videos! If your devices are Amazon Echoes and if you don't need the whole home distribution function, then for just a multi-channel amplifier you can can consider Soundavo MZ-series amplifier. www.soundavo.com/collections/multi-channel-amplifiers
th-cam.com/video/cfuekKxkESI/w-d-xo.html
If you have more questions let me know!
I have RG6 cables ran that I planned on using to connect my dedicated audio sources. I would like to use the pre-out connection to my receiver as a source. Is there an RG6 to RCA converter that you recommend or should I run new RCA cable?
RG6 can be an RCA cable, there are no issues at all with doing that! You just need these connectors amzn.to/2M3gQQb and you'll probably need one of these compression tools amzn.to/2WR5r8w keep in mind, a standard RCA cable that has a red/white require 2 RG6 cables. Each RG6 cable represents only one of them. Let me know if you have any other questions
I need some help please. I got the W66si system but Trying to figure out how to hook my tv’s to this systems. How would I hook up 5 tv’s to 5 of my zones. I want the sound to come out the ceiling speakers for that room/TV location. Is this possible?
It's possible yes. For the WS66i you'd only be able to do 4 of them though, because 2 of the sources are the wireless streamers. That leaves 4 that you could plug in. You would do 2 as RCA sources and 1 could be an optical cable and 1 could be a 3.5mm cable. You could also use an adapter if you need to convert the 3.5mm to optical I think
What is the maximum wattage rating for each of the 6 zones on a 70v setup?
So i know where to put the tap settings..
On a 70v setup there are no zones. The amplifier has a rating, lets say 120w for example. A 70v system is just 1 giant long bus... meaning all the speakers are essentially chained together. Yes you can create "zones" by having an in-line volume knob to turn that set off, but it's still a giant bus. So the way you compute the wattage, is that you can have as many speakers as you want, as long as you dont go over the 120w. You simply add up the amount of speakers and the wattage. So you could have 24 total speakers at 5 watts... you could have 48 running at 2.5 watts, etc. It's just a numbers addition game that is all. Also, it's recommended to leave 10 to 20% wattage room. In other words dont have speakers that add up to exactly 120w. It could over stress the system. Instead, maybe only add up to 100w and leave the 20w of head room (in this example)
@@TheKMZ1 i have the monoprice 6 zone model 110761 with the 6 keypads and 20 speakers. All are 70v speakers with tap knobs ..
Some of the 6 zones have only a single speaker and other zones have as many as 12 speakers ..
So in order for me to set the tap settings in order to not go over the wattage output of each zone i would need to know what the maximum output for each zone is. Right?
Definitely going to be setting up a very similar speaker system in my new-build home. I made this decision based on your videos and recommendations, so thank you very much. What I wanted to know was if the WS66i streaming option let's you use TH-cam music as a streaming player? I subscribe to TH-cam Music so hoping it works. I do not see any info regarding that.
Thanks I've been loving mine still. Check out my TH-cam series on my channel, installing this from start to finish. Unfortunately no I don't believe TH-cam music is supported
Does it use the T568A or T568B wiring color code for the keypads ? Or can it use both ? The monoprice system says to use the T568A wiring color code...
Both amplifiers, (Soundavo, monoprice, even dayton dax66) they all can use either wiring T568A or T568B. The main thing is that they are straight through ethernet cables (same wiring on both ends). So for that matter you could make up your own wiring color code as long as it's the same on both ends you will be fine. Hope this helps!
Thanks for all you videos. Do you happen to have one on how to connect the app?
Are you using the soundavo app or my Android app
@@TheKMZ1 Soundavo app
@@eswonderfulworld1808 Other than what i showed starting at 17:28 in this video, no I never did end up making one
Thanks for the video, I ordered the AMP version that without using the keypads, following your video for setup and everything works flawless, the App is easy to use. I don’t do Spotify but using the SiriusXM radio for the airplay function to do streaming on this amp. Do you know when is the new keypad coming? We might consider to install 2 or 3 in kid’s room.
Glad to hear! I don't have an exact time on when those keypads will be released, but I will be doing a video probably and letting you know!
Actually I’m enjoying play around on the supported control App for the source/zone selection, it’s fun. To add the keypads just other thoughts, not really need it right now. For considering to do the extra work for the keypads wiring, I think so far by using the App is fine.
Can you put more than two speakers on a single channel of the soundavo?
Yep! This video here th-cam.com/video/dVjiZeCCnqA/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for this great video. VERY helpful, i've been looking for an audio solution for my house which is all wired, but with old keypads from Aegis. I will keep reading and watching your videos, very educational. Thanks much.
I want to put has this but I’m concerned about the blue light that stays on when the system is off on the keypad. At night when the room is dark is it too bright?
There are ways to cover the blue light, check my channel I have a video about the monoprice blue light fix. I think if you type that in you'll find it! It's titled monoprice but works for this system as well
For a 12 zone system, could I buy this as the primary controller, and then buy the cheaper no-logo monoprice (which is 1/2 as much even after your discount code) as the secondary box to control the second 6 zones and still take advantage of the streaming sources and IP control?
Yes you technically could! In my video demo, I hooked it up and i technically had a mixed system as you described. Good idea ;)
@@TheKMZ1 did the app also recognize the slave monoprice device when combining them?
So I tried to purchase a few days ago but it would not let me add it to my cart, I did get it add to my cart today, but it says your discount code is not valid on this item. Is there a new code?
What did you all have in the shopping cart? The code TKMZ is valid on the WS66i kit or WS66i amp only. I tested just now on the kit package and it worked, you aren't trying to add the keypads to the cart separately are you? And the code only works on 1 amp so If you had 2 in the cart you would have to do 2 separate transactions to get the better price
I have already purchased the Monoprice and am wondering what options are available to stream wirelessly from my iphone since the chromecast is no longer available?
Buy a chromecast on eBay, or you can hook an alexa up to your amp and create an alexa group in your Alexa app. Add all Alexas into that group and set the preferred speaker to be the echo dot plugged into the amp. Then no matter what echo you talk into the music will output through the echo plugged into the amp
How to conect to Franklin mini wifiused by cspire only wifi source with no usb type or other plugs
Is it possible to run one of these then a dayton audio behind it for 12 zones more or less how you showed in this demo?
@@jameswoodrich8358 yes you can do that
Can you use monoprice and soundavo together???
Yes you can
Same question I had.
@@TheKMZ1 so I can get the monoprice kit with keypads, and get only the soundavo amp and link them? Just making sure
@@the_bearded_anesthetist yes you can do that, so are you not wanting to use the keypads? Because if you are you will want more keypads not otherwise yes you don't need them if you don't plan to use them, and yes the soundavo will work with the monoprice! Use the coupon code to get you a good discount
How could i do a 70v audio system for a business having a multizone amplifier with keypads?
You could do rotary column controls but I'm not aware of any systems that have these digital keypads for 70v systems!
What version of android is required to run Monoprice Whole Home Audio Con?
I think I built it with v 4.4 and above
Isn’t 25W per zone weak ? I assumed this is weaker than mono price
Is this company new or just mono price rebranded ?
25w per zone is the exact same as what monoprices "no logo" amp does. Soundavo has been around for several years, soundavo is the company that actually redesigned and created this. Monoprice didn't create theirs they are just a reseller that's why it's called "no logo". And no, 25w is not weak for home audio, trust me when I say I could throw a massive house party. If I had it turned all the way up you could not have a conversation
@@TheKMZ1 so it’s 2021 and many of these products were feature lacking for smart capabilities and ease of use with phones/streaming/airplay etc
So I loooked a little at this model you’re advertising here. I’m planning for a 6 zone install and was only aware of the mono price and htd amp. Found your video last night and researching more into it.
@@manoj93sharma exactly, and the monoprice is one of the most popular and widely used amps. So that's why Soundavo came along and made it the same, except brought it up a little more the current times with technology. Check out my channel series I did, whole home audio from start to finish, I installed the soundavo system in my 2 story house and showed every step of the way to completion
Do you have a recommendation for a similar device that also provides surround sound for the living room?
I added a Bluetooth receiver to mine and then I connect the Bluetooth OUT of my TV to my home audio system. It’s not 5.1, but it uses my in ceiling speakers just fine and sounds great.
You'll need a separate receiver for a surround system in your living room. This system is designed for background music throughout a home. However it's easy to wire the two together! Just run an RCA cable from one of the zone outs on the soundavo to an AUX in on the surround receiver you choose.
You can also do vice versa, so if the AV surround receiver has a 'zone 2 out' (this can get confusing lol) you can come OUT of your AV receiver and INTO the soundavo as a source. That way, you can hear audio from your TV throughout your home.