That is sweet,... Years ago I built an N-scale vertical staging yard for a friends operations layout, but never got around to automating the thing. Instead it was set up with a hand crank assembly and a solenoid for track alignment.
Hello, Amazing job. I made a train lift but not even close to yours. This is a project that i would love to address. I have entered the web page you posted in which there are a lot of options. I read all the comments and I still have many questions 😂 such as which profiles did you use 30x30 / 40x40, which exactly joins, etc. do you still have the numbers of this? Would it be possible to share also the 3d model? Thank you in advance for your help!!
I'm always amazed at the talent level of people who are good at CAD programs like SketchUp. You have to have an Engineer's Left Brain for the orderly and analytical construction while also having an Artist's Right Brain for the creative and intuitive design.
Wow! Exactly what I am aiming to build. I have a small proto - also using lead screws and NEMA motors and built of 2020 t-slot aluminum which provides a far better rigidity and size stability than wood. But looks like you're a long way ahead of me! This looks truly superb! From when I got re-involved in the hobby about 3 years ago it seemed pretty obvious to me that while conventional fiddle yards and traversers provide a good solution to parking "offstage" trains, they are a lot more useful for circular layouts than for end-to-end layouts. I therefore decided that a lifting system could provide a lot more storage AND allow multi levels of a layout without the need to use a lot of space for inclines between levels. Providing a reliable, ultra-precise vertical fiddle yard/lift for complete trains is not at all easy and my feeling was that - in a typical layout room with varying temperatures getting long-term reliability and precision of registration between lift and fixed track elements with a wooden structure was going to be hard - thus my use of 2020 (or probably 2040 later). My design for my finished version has 12 double track lift shelves and two "on" tracks coming from a mainline station layout and at the far end it has a loop track so that trains can be run off the other side of the lift to be turned around before coming back onto a lift shelf and eventually back into the station - as though returning from a long out and back service. The lift will also allow me a higher level circular track around my whole room so that trains can run at speed sometimes!
Brilliant video, really catchy tune as well! Can I ask what are you using to control the lift (software) I am currently in the process of building my own elevator but in n scale, I have been very lucky in so much as I have found someone who has written an internet based software program to control it. But eventually I want to integrate it into my iTrain control software
Hi Phil, the stepper motor that drives the elevator has a driver board that accepts commands via RS232 or USB. My layout, including the elevator, is controlled by a LabVIEW program I wrote over the years.
I am currently intending to build a stockend yard Vitrine with Train Lift and M-Gleis. And then I discovered your Video. So glad to see your Master Piece! Truely an inspiration. Thanks indeed!
"Would you be willing to share any additional technical details in an attempt to realize a similar project? For instance, information on where to source aluminum profiles or guidance on selecting a stepper motor and guides from a supplier would be greatly appreciated. Any suggestions you could provide would be welcome."😃
Wow, very impressive. I have started an elevator using an Igus screw thread assembly. Some details of the motor / gear unit you have used would be useful to know. Was the counterweight an add on to reduce the motor load? Can't quite see the pulley system used for that connection. Sorry to ask so much, but would also like to hear the elevator operation to get an idea of the noise levels when operating.
Motor: reichelt.nl/nl/nl/hybridschrittmotor-nema-23-2-8-a-10-30-v-dc-pd57-1-1161-p246323.html?&trstct=pos_1&nbc=1 The spindle has a 5 mm/revolution pitch. This motor is strong enough to lift the cage, which weighs approx. 15 kg. However as soon the power is off, the cage swirls down due to the low friction of the drive system, driving the motor via the spindle. The counterbalance leaves the cage in place and indeed also reduces motor load as an extra. For an indication of the noise, see my earlier video th-cam.com/video/J8dEH4ZIPVE/w-d-xo.html. It was much lower than expected.
Bonjour Formidable !!! Pouvez vous me donner les caractéristiques de la tige filtée et moteur (et fournisseur)pour la traction du pont élévateur ? GRAND MERCI
Thanks. The reason for using M-track is quite vulgar: Cost. There is more than 140 meters of track in this storage yard, and more than half I had already available in M-track. Buying 50 meters M-track was cheaper than 140 meters C- or K-track. Additional benefit is that I can lead the cables out of sight through the track bed.
Hi John jean, the loops are there for storage, accessed by the lift. 4 trains of 2 meters each on the bottom levels. More shorter trains on the higher levels. The loops are not horizontal BTW, but go downhill. It is like an interupted helix. More details on www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t30205-Gregor---The-Helix-is-dead--long-live-the-Helix/page2, see post #93 and further.
This is a wonderful idea for the ceiling \ floating shelf layout I plan to build. A lift to get from the yard\storage area to the mainlines instead of a huge helix would be awesome and save me space in my office where the main yard will be. I would love if you could send me any specs to use as a guideline.
I recently started getting interested in projects in electronics - home automation - DCC. I found your creation very well done, which gave me some ideas that I hope to implement as soon as possible. I compliment you!@@traintrombone8515
If according to your definition of a model railroad there must be trees, houses, stations etc., have a look at 01:53. It is a matter of taste anyway, just like the music. You might find benefit, also in your personal life, in expressing your opinions in a more respectful manner.
Did you somehow miss the model railway that the video is about?? This video is a great example of what can be achieved with model trains. 👎🏼👎🏼 I dislike your comment
A Perfect Video, super Lift construction. It Looks like to me as Perfect Solution. Great, a big thanks for this Information, Best regards, der-radi
Wow, wow, wow. What for a cool video. I have enjoyed your video. Thank you.
Cheers Emma 😊
P.S. I am also a Lab View Programmer.
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Wow! Very impressive 😃 Great video!! 👍👍
Very interesting project. I really appreciate the creativity of the solution.
Incredible editing. Truly a masterpiece, miles ahead of the other Trainfluencers on this platform. Keep it up!
Thanks for your kind words! Love the qualification Trainfluencer!
That is sweet,... Years ago I built an N-scale vertical staging yard for a friends operations layout, but never got around to automating the thing. Instead it was set up with a hand crank assembly and a solenoid for track alignment.
Hello,
Amazing job. I made a train lift but not even close to yours. This is a project that i would love to address. I have entered the web page you posted in which there are a lot of options. I read all the comments and I still have many questions 😂 such as which profiles did you use 30x30 / 40x40, which exactly joins, etc. do you still have the numbers of this? Would it be possible to share also the 3d model? Thank you in advance for your help!!
Wow!!!!
Amazing! You make everyone's dreams come true.
Thanks! As long as they are model train related, I do my best... ;)
I'm always amazed at the talent level of people who are good at CAD programs like SketchUp. You have to have an Engineer's Left Brain for the orderly and analytical construction while also having an Artist's Right Brain for the creative and intuitive design.
Can you provide a copy of your sketch up files?
Sure, just tell me where to send it to.
Wow! Exactly what I am aiming to build. I have a small proto - also using lead screws and NEMA motors and built of 2020 t-slot aluminum which provides a far better rigidity and size stability than wood. But looks like you're a long way ahead of me! This looks truly superb!
From when I got re-involved in the hobby about 3 years ago it seemed pretty obvious to me that while conventional fiddle yards and traversers provide a good solution to parking "offstage" trains, they are a lot more useful for circular layouts than for end-to-end layouts. I therefore decided that a lifting system could provide a lot more storage AND allow multi levels of a layout without the need to use a lot of space for inclines between levels. Providing a reliable, ultra-precise vertical fiddle yard/lift for complete trains is not at all easy and my feeling was that - in a typical layout room with varying temperatures getting long-term reliability and precision of registration between lift and fixed track elements with a wooden structure was going to be hard - thus my use of 2020 (or probably 2040 later). My design for my finished version has 12 double track lift shelves and two "on" tracks coming from a mainline station layout and at the far end it has a loop track so that trains can be run off the other side of the lift to be turned around before coming back onto a lift shelf and eventually back into the station - as though returning from a long out and back service. The lift will also allow me a higher level circular track around my whole room so that trains can run at speed sometimes!
Sounds like a nice project. Would look forward to a video of the building process!
Brilliant video, really catchy tune as well! Can I ask what are you using to control the lift (software) I am currently in the process of building my own elevator but in n scale, I have been very lucky in so much as I have found someone who has written an internet based software program to control it. But eventually I want to integrate it into my iTrain control software
Hi Phil, the stepper motor that drives the elevator has a driver board that accepts commands via RS232 or USB. My layout, including the elevator, is controlled by a LabVIEW program I wrote over the years.
AWESOME DUDE! AWESOME! 🚂🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃🚃
wonderfull. much appreciated. this is a great piece.
I am currently intending to build a stockend yard Vitrine with Train Lift and M-Gleis. And then I discovered your Video. So glad to see your Master Piece! Truely an inspiration. Thanks indeed!
Glad it was helpful. Good luck with your project!
All this and the late great Rory Gallagher if I'm not mistaken. Seen him a few times.
Brilliant idea for people with limited space
Impressive engineering work
"Would you be willing to share any additional technical details in an attempt to realize a similar project? For instance, information on where to source aluminum profiles or guidance on selecting a stepper motor and guides from a supplier would be greatly appreciated. Any suggestions you could provide would be welcome."😃
Hi, the hardware was purchased at dold-mechatronik.de and motedis.nl. The stepper motor, incl driver, is a PD57-1-1161 from reichelt.de.
Awesome! ❤❤❤❤
Wonderful!
Impressive model train lift, well done!
Wow, very impressive. I have started an elevator using an Igus screw thread assembly. Some details of the motor / gear unit you have used would be useful to know. Was the counterweight an add on to reduce the motor load? Can't quite see the pulley system used for that connection.
Sorry to ask so much, but would also like to hear the elevator operation to get an idea of the noise levels when operating.
Motor: reichelt.nl/nl/nl/hybridschrittmotor-nema-23-2-8-a-10-30-v-dc-pd57-1-1161-p246323.html?&trstct=pos_1&nbc=1
The spindle has a 5 mm/revolution pitch.
This motor is strong enough to lift the cage, which weighs approx. 15 kg. However as soon the power is off, the cage swirls down due to the low friction of the drive system, driving the motor via the spindle. The counterbalance leaves the cage in place and indeed also reduces motor load as an extra.
For an indication of the noise, see my earlier video th-cam.com/video/J8dEH4ZIPVE/w-d-xo.html. It was much lower than expected.
@@traintrombone8515 Thanks very much for the information. I have listened to the 'short' and yes, it is quiet in operation. Best wishes
Awesome
Amazing setup
Bonjour
Formidable !!!
Pouvez vous me donner les caractéristiques de la tige filtée et moteur (et fournisseur)pour la traction du pont élévateur ?
GRAND MERCI
Voila:
www.dold-mechatronik.de/SET-SFU1605-DM-balle-de-1552mm-avec-bloc-de-vis-pour-le-systeme-Easy-Mecatronique-1620b-L1500
www.reichelt.nl/nl/fr/moteur-pas-pas-hybride-nema-23-2-8-a-10-8230-30-v-dc-pd57-1-1161-p246323.html?CCOUNTRY=662&LANGUAGE=nl&GROUPID=9629&START=0&OFFSET=16&SID=93bcbc7fee45a4544b8543cfda6d561d709141b32a3de7388cfb1&LANGUAGE=FR&&r=1
I am awestruck, great way to go
Great!
Really awsome! But why did you use the M-Track?
Thanks. The reason for using M-track is quite vulgar: Cost. There is more than 140 meters of track in this storage yard, and more than half I had already available in M-track. Buying 50 meters M-track was cheaper than 140 meters C- or K-track. Additional benefit is that I can lead the cables out of sight through the track bed.
That was amazing engineering. Very impressive. Do you use it for your own layout?
Yes I built it here in my own home.
Building 🛑🚇
Wont lie its a masterpiece but what are you supposed to do with all the dust?
I can empty the levels one by one and give it a cleaning when required. It is much easier to clean than the layout itself.
Erg mooi. Maar als je bovenleiding gebruikt, zal het niet meevallen een gladde overgang te maken zonder dat de stroomafnemers blijven haken.
Nee hoor dat is geen probleem. Gewoon een geleidelijk inloopstuk van een paar cm maken waar de bovenleiding weer begint.
I am impressed Bravo. Great engineering, great music, funny cat. One question: why all these horizontal loops?
Hi John jean, the loops are there for storage, accessed by the lift. 4 trains of 2 meters each on the bottom levels. More shorter trains on the higher levels. The loops are not horizontal BTW, but go downhill. It is like an interupted helix. More details on www.marklin-users.net/forum/posts/t30205-Gregor---The-Helix-is-dead--long-live-the-Helix/page2, see post #93 and further.
You can tell this is one of those guys who has NEVER spent an afternoon on the couch, channel surfing.
This is a wonderful idea for the ceiling \ floating shelf layout I plan to build. A lift to get from the yard\storage area to the mainlines instead of a huge helix would be awesome and save me space in my office where the main yard will be. I would love if you could send me any specs to use as a guideline.
Hi @stephenkelly4918, I can surely share some info. Please send your contact details to traintrombone@gmail.com
What do you use to control the stepper motor?
The stepper motor comes with an RS-232 or RS-485 instruction set. I wrote a LabVIEW application to control it.
I recently started getting interested in projects in electronics - home automation - DCC. I found your creation very well done, which gave me some ideas that I hope to implement as soon as possible. I compliment you!@@traintrombone8515
Thanks!
Make sure you post a video of your creations.
I will ;) @@traintrombone8515
But how to build it???
You can order all construction components for such devices online (e.g. www.dold-mechatronik.de) and start bolting things together.
Nothing like the prototype and ridiculous music as well. Congratulations on your engineering skills, but a model railroad it isn’t.
If according to your definition of a model railroad there must be trees, houses, stations etc., have a look at 01:53. It is a matter of taste anyway, just like the music. You might find benefit, also in your personal life, in expressing your opinions in a more respectful manner.
Why are you so mad
Und was hat diese L'art-pour-l'art-Megalomanie noch mit dem Modellbahn-Hobby zu tun?
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