oh it 1000% is. US elections are a hot debate once every 4 years in just one country. this debate has been going on for YEARS throughout the entire world
Honestly, this is pretty respectable of death battle, it was a close fight and vegito respected gogeta at the end of this fight, this should how the debate should have ended, respectfully instead of constant clowning and toxicity
@@lordkai59 They were but I really wish the animation team and the people who write the scripts for what's said in the analysis were on the same page since the post analysis went over a bunch of things that weren't even used in the fight, just seemed like they were trying to fill up the time at the end because they didn't have much to say. On a similar note, the Joker vs Giorno fight was amazing but has the same problem, the analysis never mentions the fact that Giorno can't create life in sub-zero temperatures even though that's actually something they utilize in the animation itself so for people who know pretty much nothing about Jojo's (like me) it just seemed like Giorno was panicking over a little bit of ice.
Honestly, at this point, I'm not even sure if "rivalry boost" is an actual thing or not(or even if the fusion dance doesn't have it if it is a thing). I see tons of people claim it's real. I see tons of people say it isn't. So i don't know which fusion is stronger, but i feel like they're actually pretty much equal.
I’ve always taken it as both fighters complimenting each others’ strengths/weaknesses and not a literal power amp. I’ve always heard ppl mention it but I’ve never seen anyone back it up with official sources. It may be stated somewhere for all I know.
Honestly it should have ended in a tie. I believe Vegito and Gogeta would either waste eachother or use so much power they'd both be defused. Remember it's not just potara fusion that's time can be shortened by too much power. When Gotenks went SSJ3 the time of the metamoran fusion was also shortened.
Yeah but they can't really do a tie for such a requested episode. So they had to decide and based on the sources vegito wins so that's what they picked
Vegito has more time to waste (1 hour, while gogeta only 30 minutes), so even if they used the same amount of energy, gogeta would defuse before vegito.
You are mistaken, im pretty sure ssj3 gotenks had the 30 minutes. He fought buu in base and in ssj while he was on the time chamber, and then wasted a good time trying to get out. When he got out already on ssj3 he still fought a ton.
@@nunobatista5822 the time fights last isnt what it looks like. The tournament of power lasted canonically 48 minutes, but it has multiple episodes that add up to multiple hours. Stated by trunks, once they go SS3 as gotenks they can only last 5 minutes before the fusion ends. They explicitaly said that it would cause the fusion to end, they didnt say they would run out of stamina.
@Nmoment-uv6jc even then, if it didnt last 30 minutes it was pretty close to it, it barely did any diference. Also they dont even have ss2, imagine them managing ssj3 transformation. I also like to think that since they have to sincronize perfectly, the metamorian fusion has a far greater control managing their energy, allowing them to use more power than the potara overall
My biggest gripe is they didn't show us the forms they spent a good amount of time explaining. They gave Vegito Blue Kaioken, but Gogeta only went blue. The fight probably have no correlation to their decisions, but why was it a Kamehameha (was it Big Bang Kamehameha, or a regular one?) vs a Soul punisher (into dragon fist... Inside Vegito's attack ).
Actually I believe in 14:03 if you look closely at gogeta there’s a frame of him going from blue to blue evolution just vegitos kamehameha made it hard to notice
Because it's cool. DA didn't have time to throw in all of their forms because most Death Battles can only be 3 - 4 minutes average. Would you rather them immediately go into their final forms or not show them at all?
16:13 I literally be saying this and people looked at me like I’m crazy. It’s CLEARLY stated the fusion dance requires fighters of equal levels meaning that’s what it multiplies. Potara doesn’t ask for all that
isn’t this itself kinda debunked or pointless? in Super they fused in base forms and ended up in a powerful enough blue state to sweep Broly. In GT they fused in SSj4 forms. so i don’t really believe it matters anymore…
@@Nameless0ne419 How does that debunk it? Goku and Vegeta are consistently shown being extremely similar in power levels, it wouldn't be much trouble to lower it slightly for the fusion to work.
@@lukasruston8618Yeah but any slight power difference can make a huge difference, look at piccolo vs nappa, keep in mind, nappa only had a 500 power difference with piccolo and he couldn’t touch hom
@ Cope, the DBS Broly movie official guide states that Gogeta and Vegito are equal, and that was the latest statement saying anything about Gogeta and Vegito’s strength, so Vegito fans don’t know the story and they can’t read🤣
Gogeta’s cooler tbh, but his moves are geared toward, well… Pure evil enemies. Befits isn’t pure evil, so soul punisher shouldn’t even work, which seemed to actually be the case, funnily enough. Either way, that was a dope fight ngl
I go with Gogeta. The first time he appeared was in the movies timeline. Kakarrot and Bejita of the movies/GT timeline are far stronger than their canon counterparts. For calculating Gogeta is use a formula that Saiyan Scholar created it's his theory. Or at least he is the first I ever heard him say that about the fusion dance- The best of A+The best of BX100= New base. How much you get from the Potara is unclear but it can't be the same as fusion dance.
I don't trust DBZ statements coz initially we thought Vegito is a permanent thing and than that was retconned in Super and than also in the DBS Broly movie it was stated Gogeta and Vegito are equal which retconns the rivalry boost thingy that Potara is supposed to have.Also if we're going by feats(which matter more than statements) Gogeta has the upper hand and if we don't want to take any of this into consideration,it does not matter who is stronger because Vegito cannot last long enough to defeat Gogeta which makes Gogeta the automatic winner of this debate.Also the argument of Fusion needing the users to make themselves equal does not apply well to Goku and Vegeta because they are literally equal in power so that already renders that argument useless.
What do you mean retconned in Super. The Kai never had a mortal use the potara and Vegata and Goku both unfuse because of this lack of info during their Buu fight.
1. "Equally matched trump cards" is not the same as them being the same strength, it's also promotional material from toei, not toriyama himself. 2. It technically isn't a retcon, no kai would be as strong as goku and vegeta or know mortals that were, leading to circumstance where old kai wouldn't know because he'd never experience the situation. 3. If gogeta expends his power he also has the time limit, gogeta ssj4 burns through it super fast, and even a canonical example, ssj3 gotenks had his time limit cut as sated by trunks. Probably because of how much power and how unoptimized the form is. 4. The goku and vegeta being equal thing is completely false atleast in terms of the times gogeta has been shown (current vegeta and goku would be). Fusion reborn gogeta goku is stronger via otherworld training and ssj3. In the broly movie goku is also stronger by a small margin. His ssbk is equal to ssbe vegeta, and he had used ultra instinct (since the broly movie is after TOP). Even in gt, goku had accesed ssj4 naturally,sooner and was stronger in adult base (ssj4 gets rid of the power shrink goku got from being turned into a kid).
You say that as if DB still claims to be the end all be all. Thats like saying "this random person said something correct but they aren't right all the time" cause no one will be right all the time lol
the ending pisses me off why would gogeta use stardust breaker he has the memories of goku and vegita i think and they fused into vegito twice by the time gogeta becomes canon and both have done nothing but good so the attack would do nothing
Vegitto being generally better than Gogeta is literally required for Vegitto to be relivant. Why go out of your way to find someone with Potara if the dance is just as strong or stronger. Sure, you'd have to take time to learn the dance, but once you've perfected it, the Potara would be completely useless. I'd rather my favorite fusion be slightly weaker than the alternative than have another cool character banished to the shadow realm of obscurity and uselessness.
Last i checked gogeta popped up last in canon meaning the goku and vegeta that fuses in super broly was stronger than in the zamasu arc, on top of that dbs constantly pushed the idea that goku and vegeta are finally equal in power meaning noones lowering power levels effectively meaning the fusions powerlevel shouldnt be effected either way
True but this is hypothetically two goku and vegeta on equal power. Wouldn’t make sense to grab them from different arcs. The question was who is stronger or the better fusion why would they get Vegito from the future trunks arc and have him fight a post tournament of power fusion of goku and vegeta, that’s just dumb. Also super showed many times goku and vegeta weren’t equals, goku was always stronger in each arc idk what you saw lol. U6 arc goku was stronger because of kioken, goku black arc vegeta literally had to go in the time chamber for months to catch up and even then goku still beat FUSED zamasu in a beam struggle while vegeta needed help from trunks, in the t.o.p arc vegeta was way weaker in the beginning since he didn’t have blue evolution until way into the tournament and by then goku already had u.i omen and then later goku got even stronger by having master u.i lol. So in what part in super was vegeta and goku equal lol? Vegeta is my fave character in all of anime but even I know goku was always stronger in besides maybe the granolah arc and even then that’s debatable.
I think the only way to give Gogeta a short fight win based on what they said is to acknowledge that fights in DB without the intent to stall (get absorbed on purpose or turn negative energy into positive energy; baiting) are generally about five minutes as even Vegeta thought 1 minute was a long time especially against some blatantly stronger than himself, Piccolo thought 30 minutes was ridiculous, and that all fights after Goku vs Jackie already compact the afternoons spent fighting back then into that time frame and the fusions don’t care for it. Additionally, matching power levels is what makes the fusion work, and doesn’t necessarily mean the remaining power isn’t contributed to the fusion otherwise there’s no point in drawing out the power to the max thereafter when comparing both fusions. Overall, the battle hinges on how you think their timers play apart in things, but only Vegito has the option to stall while Gogeta’s techniques just seem more mystical, hence why Vegito likely would win 5.5 out of 10 times more. But I’d personally think the more naturalistic fusion would fit the themes of DB more to edge a W outside of pragmatism.
The only argument I didn't agree with was with the power difference, simply because there have been plenty of times where Vegeta was on par with Goku and even instances where he was stronger, it's a constant back and forth, so they could have excluded that point from the battle and just acknowledge it and put them both at the same level. Regardless, Vegetto has objectively the upper hand, unless the writers decide otherwise and we all know who TOEI prefers of the two.
If the goku and the vegeta are even, the fusions are even, at least in the most updated answer. This is further proven (as if toriyamas guide statement wasn’t enough from Dbs broly) by the fact in dbs broly gogeta himself states the exact same multiplier as what vados said for potara. Just because the dance requires the users power to match when fusing, doesn’t mean it doesn’t add their users individual full powers, because it does, as Gogeta says. It’s simply just a starting requirement.
The fusions are equal at this point and will continue to be equal as long as the franchise continues. I don't take death battle or the results too seriously and neither should y'all. Just use it as a jumping off point
@@YourboyStink how so? they are definetely equal cause Toriyama said so, their feats are similar, They both have the same forms, they are close in power in the game, they both have a time limit now. Anything else?
@@alexlovehall7796 Toriyama also said Vegito is stronger. Potara fusion has always been stated to be more powerful than fusion dance. There’s no evidence that Gogeta is stronger, but tons of evidence supporting Vegito being stronger. Take the L bud 🤷🏾♂
No hay debate porque los dos son igual de fuertes y ya esta. Nunca habrá canonicamente ninguno superior al otro porque eso enfadaria a los fans de Vegetto o Gogeta. Lo unico diferencial es el tiempo que dura cada fusion, el cual cambiará dependiendo de la conveniencia del guión
No es así en el material escrito por Toriyama. Mucha confusión viene de que gogeta es el niño mimado de Toei animation, pero en el material del maestro Toriyama está claro. En el manga original en japonés se explica que "el efecto del potara es superior al de la fusión". Esto significa que el aumento de poder en las mismas circunstancias será mayor. El tiempo que dura y el aumento por rivalidad son mencionados como algo aparte de la superioridad de los potara.
Should’ve ended in a draw because after gogeta became cannon they stated they were both equal in the broly movie magazine in super, vegito is basically used for short burst fights while gogeta can be used for longer fights, also gt gogeta is a monster only reason they defuse was because of goku being fatigued before they fuse.
The problem why vegito defuse in blue is because vegito was using an imperfect variant of blue which was more unstable while gogeta from broly movie was using a more stable version of blue. Most people don't know about it
@lukasruston8618 It's true the power scaling in anime is very wrong like if Goku can fight with fused zamasu using kioken on his on than why VEGITO is only equally strong as corrupted zamasu another example is kefla fighting UI while in manga ultimate Gohan was equally strong as kefla
Them making Gogeta use the Stardust Breaker on Vegito knowing full well it wouldn't work and Giving Vegito Kaioken at the end is some Bullshit, But what to expect from death battle lol.
@@Absolute_Crimson Yeah ig the fight itself was rushed so they couldn't show everything. I'm pretty sure they had that into account when debating who would win but they couldn't show it in the fight itself which hurts the reputation of the episode Point is though they did have everything into account so the veredict remains the same
Broly was screaming in pain when he got hit by Stardust Breaker. Let’s not gaslight ourselves into thinking it’s only effective against evil spirits. Stardust Breaker is just a fancy looking Ki blast that deals damage. And before people come at me with pitchforks, guides can be wrong and out of date. A guide said that the last time Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 was when he showed it to Kibito in the Buu saga. It’s definitely out of date, but also has wiggle room to be wrong, since he had one bang (no extra hair strand and no lightning). Whether or not Gohan was fighting Dabura at Super Saiyan 2 is up for another discussion. But my point is guides can be wrong and out of date. The Stardust Breaker one is definitely one of them.
6:17 I definitely believe Gogeta would win before i even finish the video but i also feel like people call vegito blue (also Ssj4 Gogeta specifically) a fraud despite DEFUSION in dragon ball BEING NARRITIVE EVIDENCE towards Strength coming from your bonds, etc. (The spirit bomb as a concept is also evidence of this) and a lot of people don’t know both the Big Bang Kamehameha x100 and the Final Kamehameha would’ve IN FACT One shot both Omega and Zamasu respectively.
i love how after the battle they give a great explanation of why vegito wins, but all the gogeta fans in the chat are just ignoring them and calling it mick cuz their guy didnt win 😂 listen to what they say and maybe youd understand
I (kinda) understand why gogeta vs vegitto is an argument if you assume vegetta is equal to Goku in power . But I will never understand the people that say the dance is stronger or better than the potara. For example if you take gohan and krillin. The potara fusion that allows gohan to be at full power is undoubtedly stronger. Even goten and trunks in the buu saga, they literally say trunks has to dial back his power because he’s just stronger than goten(unless I’m misremembering this)
Nobody should trust death battle with db takes, they said bardock (with ssj) lost to omni man, even after acknowledging omni man needed to weak a planet's core and then 2 other ppl to do the plan perfectly to even have a chance to destroy a planet
I believe their power is close enough for one not to have a strong advantage over the other. Vegito Blue lasts 10 minutes against Zamasu in the manga. SS4 Gogeta lasted 15 minutes against Omega shenron. Although I like vegito more, two monkey forms dancing together gives them the time edge they need for victory. Looked it up from several sources. It seems ssblue vegito lasted around 40 minutes instead of the 10. This would give him the victory hands down.
I disagree entirely Gogeta should have won because of one simple fact, look at the names. Goku/Gogeta, Vegeta/Vegetto who is the primary person in each fusion and their history. Vegeta hasn't won a major battle ever. Goku always kills steals therefore Gogeta would also have plot armour and take the victory.
Okay, without watching the video. I think vegito is gonna win just because it's Deathbattle. Tho I believe gogeta should since we have seen both gogeta and vegeta in blue forms in super and clearly gogeta is a shit ton stronger Edit : CALLED IT. Tbh I don't think vegeto should win but if this came from a place of which one is the "better fusion" I can see why they would rule it like that.
Gogeta from the Broly movie is obviously gonna be way stronger because Vegito blue from the black arc was MULTIPLE ARCS AGO, if goku and vegeta fused into vegito but in the broly movie instead of goku black arc vegito would be stronger
Dawg what kinda thought progress is this 😭 if the same goku and vegeta from the broly movie fused into vegito they would be equal to gogeta and if the same goku and vegeta from black arc fused into gogeta , it would equal to the vegito from that arc , dumbass comment
Vegito defused at blue in zamasu saga because the power drained their time, vegito wouldnt win at all, whereas gogeta went all out in super saiyan blue and stayed the same , plus before the dragon broly movie came out, it was told on a vjump that gogeta was stronger and more balanced than vegito as gogeta (fusion dance) required a balance of levels to fuse whereas vegito (potaras) didnt have a good balance of levels The brackets are just basically to show that this applies to every other fusion too not just gogeta and vegito, this was the reason why merged zamasu was still able to be challenged by a hakai from goku in the manga as such an imbalance in power on their fusion was very bad , basically combining ssb and ssj2 power levels togethee
"Vegito defused at blue in zamasu saga because the power drained their time, vegito wouldnt win at all" Which was pre Goku & Vegeta mastering Blue and was like 40 minutes. "whereas gogeta went all out in super saiyan blue and stayed the same" You know this how? that fight could have been 1 second for all we know.
This debate shouldn’t even be discussed, it is stated in the DBS Broly movie official guide that Gogeta and Vegito are equal, and for the Vegito fans, if you seriously(with no trolling)rely on a Death Battle to say Vegito wins, there’s actually something wrong with you🤣
Soul Punisher fit Super Gogeta more since he faced the literal embodiment of evil energy and the attack wiped him off completely, I'm guessing they had to change the concept of the attack a bit for the spectacle in the DBS Broly movie so that it could create a crazy explosion as well TLDR you can just use both names but nowadays Stardust Breaker is more commonly used
My only problem is they mention there strongest forms yet don't even use them in this death battle. For example they could have used super Saiyan 4 vegetto against super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and then super Saiyan Blue gogeta against blue Vegetto after that ssjblkx50 vegetto if I remember correctly vegetto went up to times 50 in super dragon ball heroes and they could of had gogeta use the blue evolution during the fight. Now the next is the reason why gogeta would win and that is because if zeno Goku in his limit breaker super Saiyan 4 was equal to UI omen cc Goku who used the silver haired form to defeat xeno Goku then if they used limited breaker super Saiyan 4 Gogeta then Vegetto would have stood no chance especially since it's hinted multiple times that UI omen is stronger than fusion Now we could also add that ultimate Gohan was able to throw hands with blue Vegetto in super dragon ball heroes manga and anime I don't have a problem with the outcome but if you are comparing the two full power to full power and you're going to show all of their forms and mention them, then you should use all of their forms Anyway I personally believe that gogeta would win unless vegetto used UI then I'd give it to vegetto since vegetto would just have to use the silver haired form for a second to over power super Saiyan 4 limit breaker gogeta
Gonna have to disagree with sage on CC goku is the strongest, video game xeno goku is his strongest version. Heros gave a very water down version of Xeno goku but CC goku is like top 3 non canon versions. It’s (Video game) Xeno(Can be scaled to boundless and basically is nigh-omniscient with every type of manipulation in fiction. With a sword that can steal and remove your powers ), Jump force(can be scaled to outer) then CC can be scaled to complex low complex multiverse
@@thejuicer7106 that's right fusion dance also splits up without a warning like when Gotenks tried to challenge freeza in super but defused without a warning or when Gotenks took a hit from harudagan in wrath of the dragon movie and split apart on the spot. Not to mention what will happen if a villan wants to destroy earth and the dance fails these are the reason why potara are stated superior by toriyama in manga it's ultimately improved method for fusion
SSJ4 Gogeta went kaio-ken once in Heroes I believe but by that point in the battle he had switched up to Blue so it wouldn't have made sense Vegito used kaio-ken multiple times on top of Blue so it's fair
You can tell vegito was gonna win a mile away lol they been on record saying they don't like GT and w.e they don't like they have lose this is a thing in deathbattle lol. They gave gogeta everything from heroes to super being though heroes has better showcasing for gogeta making him out stronger than vegito lol.
honestly based off the feats and statements from Super, i would 100% put Gogeta over Vegito. if any of the statements about Broly being as strong or stronger than Beerus, i can’t really see how Gogeta loses. nice match up though, i’m forever gonna be a Gogeta fan, his drip, bag and skills are just too cool to not like.
On the manga there Is a similar statement where Vegito Is as strong if not stronger than beerus (It was stated by supreme Kai so it could as well be wrong)
@ but wouldn’t that make Gogeta and Vegito equal if anything, taking into the fact that Broly is as strong, if not stronger than Beerus all by himself. Gogeta beat him in Blue after so many Ki draining attacks, all while not defusing once during the fight.
Sage keeps saying we dont know who CC Goku is….. But thats NOTHING compared to JUMP FORCE Goku…. Or better yet…. GOD FUSION Goku… yeah…. I know for a dam FACT yall and even TSO dont know who they be so dont be dragging CC Goku’s balls like he’s really him shit considering how broken the powerscaling is for GT O bet even GT Goku clears em
Watch how I get rageful ass comments for no reason in a couple hours or so whether yall like it or not what im saying here is facts especially if YOU yourself know but if you dont know then shit you just dont know and obviously not gonna know any better but to just rage at this comment or some nonsense
@@storm_9081 Because Gogeta is the stronger fusion. Sure his fusion method is less superior but it has 1 thing that the potara don't and that is control. For potara it doesn't matter if the people are on the same level of power but fusion does. Now Goku is 3x more stronger than Vegeta let's say that. Now when they fuse with the potara Vegito's energy is a bit messed up remember energy control is almost everything in Dragon ball and if you don't have it you have a little bit of a disadvantage So now back to Fusion- You and your buddy have to be on the same scale of power and once you two fuse your energy is perfect in balance Now because of that 1 single that Gogeta win's and yes I know that the potara protects this from happening but this is raw power and chaotic energy flow we are talking about do you really think the potara is that strong and cable of handling that 🧐
The only reason why he won was because he had no evil in him. The move stardust breaker only works on those who are evil for example broly did not die like janemba, the downside is that when uses it on someone not pure evil, he will turn to stone.( not from vegito) and we all saw how stardust breaker went straight through the blast easily before Turing to stone. (Sry it is taking so long😅) also all the villains that vegito fought could have been one shot by gogita with stardust breaker😂.
I swear this debate is bigger than the election 😂
oh it 1000% is. US elections are a hot debate once every 4 years in just one country. this debate has been going on for YEARS throughout the entire world
And far more fun to talk about too.
Some of the only times I actually agree with Death Battle but I like Gogeta more anyways
Makes sense, i respect it
I agree that Gogeta is cooler but Vegito just has way more statements showing that he's stronger.
Vegito has like god vibes
Honestly, this is pretty respectable of death battle, it was a close fight and vegito respected gogeta at the end of this fight, this should how the debate should have ended, respectfully instead of constant clowning and toxicity
I feel bad. I’ve been defending Vegito so much that I associate his bad fans with him and vice versa
This is so unrealistic, everyone knows that vegito would defuse before the final hit.
You'd never know cause they never fought each other😂
The first comment already show you that *N O O N E* is gonna get this joke
@@arkkon2740 I'm pretty people do get this🤨🤦♂️🤣
@@DerriousGamezyour an ai bot
@@braydenbounds5213 were you programed to say that lmfao 🤣
They also said Omni would beat than Bardock, so I take their word with a can of salt.
They were right with Ben and green lantern tho
@@lordkai59 They were but I really wish the animation team and the people who write the scripts for what's said in the analysis were on the same page since the post analysis went over a bunch of things that weren't even used in the fight, just seemed like they were trying to fill up the time at the end because they didn't have much to say.
On a similar note, the Joker vs Giorno fight was amazing but has the same problem, the analysis never mentions the fact that Giorno can't create life in sub-zero temperatures even though that's actually something they utilize in the animation itself so for people who know pretty much nothing about Jojo's (like me) it just seemed like Giorno was panicking over a little bit of ice.
Green lantern cant beat alien x though so idk what ur on about
Sometimes they're right Sometimes they're wrong it just depends
@@ithoughtso.7016 he can.
Honestly, at this point, I'm not even sure if "rivalry boost" is an actual thing or not(or even if the fusion dance doesn't have it if it is a thing). I see tons of people claim it's real. I see tons of people say it isn't. So i don't know which fusion is stronger, but i feel like they're actually pretty much equal.
It's real but it's more a compatability boost than just a rival boost
I’ve always taken it as both fighters complimenting each others’ strengths/weaknesses and not a literal power amp. I’ve always heard ppl mention it but I’ve never seen anyone back it up with official sources. It may be stated somewhere for all I know.
potara is objectively stronger than fusion dance, at any given point vegito just dogwalks a gogeta from the same point in time
@@velryxiapower doesn’t always win fights tho if they are pretty relative i’m sure gogeta can pull out a win prolly 4 outta 10 times
Yet every on screen version of Vegito loses to any onscreen version of Gogeta from around that time period@@velryxia
Honestly it should have ended in a tie. I believe Vegito and Gogeta would either waste eachother or use so much power they'd both be defused. Remember it's not just potara fusion that's time can be shortened by too much power. When Gotenks went SSJ3 the time of the metamoran fusion was also shortened.
Yeah but they can't really do a tie for such a requested episode. So they had to decide and based on the sources vegito wins so that's what they picked
Vegito has more time to waste (1 hour, while gogeta only 30 minutes), so even if they used the same amount of energy, gogeta would defuse before vegito.
You are mistaken, im pretty sure ssj3 gotenks had the 30 minutes. He fought buu in base and in ssj while he was on the time chamber, and then wasted a good time trying to get out. When he got out already on ssj3 he still fought a ton.
@@nunobatista5822 the time fights last isnt what it looks like.
The tournament of power lasted canonically 48 minutes, but it has multiple episodes that add up to multiple hours.
Stated by trunks, once they go SS3 as gotenks they can only last 5 minutes before the fusion ends. They explicitaly said that it would cause the fusion to end, they didnt say they would run out of stamina.
@Nmoment-uv6jc even then, if it didnt last 30 minutes it was pretty close to it, it barely did any diference. Also they dont even have ss2, imagine them managing ssj3 transformation.
I also like to think that since they have to sincronize perfectly, the metamorian fusion has a far greater control managing their energy, allowing them to use more power than the potara overall
My biggest gripe is they didn't show us the forms they spent a good amount of time explaining. They gave Vegito Blue Kaioken, but Gogeta only went blue. The fight probably have no correlation to their decisions, but why was it a Kamehameha (was it Big Bang Kamehameha, or a regular one?) vs a Soul punisher (into dragon fist... Inside Vegito's attack ).
Actually I believe in 14:03 if you look closely at gogeta there’s a frame of him going from blue to blue evolution just vegitos kamehameha made it hard to notice
Because it's cool. DA didn't have time to throw in all of their forms because most Death Battles can only be 3 - 4 minutes average. Would you rather them immediately go into their final forms or not show them at all?
16:13 I literally be saying this and people looked at me like I’m crazy. It’s CLEARLY stated the fusion dance requires fighters of equal levels meaning that’s what it multiplies.
Potara doesn’t ask for all that
They didn't watch or read the show.
Goku literally in the buu saga had to tell trunks to lower his power to match Goten's
That doesn't affect the end product, y'all carry this point to heaven but the new guidebooks stated both got the same power level.
isn’t this itself kinda debunked or pointless? in Super they fused in base forms and ended up in a powerful enough blue state to sweep Broly. In GT they fused in SSj4 forms. so i don’t really believe it matters anymore…
@@Nameless0ne419 How does that debunk it? Goku and Vegeta are consistently shown being extremely similar in power levels, it wouldn't be much trouble to lower it slightly for the fusion to work.
@@lukasruston8618Yeah but any slight power difference can make a huge difference, look at piccolo vs nappa, keep in mind, nappa only had a 500 power difference with piccolo and he couldn’t touch hom
Let's goo finally some respect on my boy Vegito
Barack obeezy drop a dragon ball video, you know what time it is.
Vegito is stronger get over it
@@DosenotexistCap
@Dosenotexist shhhh dont expose the truth, gogeta fans cant get over straight facts being told IN THE STORY
@ Cope, the DBS Broly movie official guide states that Gogeta and Vegito are equal, and that was the latest statement saying anything about Gogeta and Vegito’s strength, so Vegito fans don’t know the story and they can’t read🤣
Happy they actually did it right, ngl super wise I’d prefer gogeta but if we’re talking about Z Vegito any day
You GOTTA watch Dragonball Deliverance TSO!!!
YO ITS THE GOAT!!!!
Death battle reactions? Niceeee😎
I hope he does more
Just wait until he does Superman vs Goku 3 💀
@@Precursor_0he did but its a members only video
@@wollypog2281 damn
Death Battle reaction is cool n all but when’s the Seth or Six reactions? 🗿
Them boys real analytical. 🗿
Gogeta’s cooler tbh, but his moves are geared toward, well… Pure evil enemies. Befits isn’t pure evil, so soul punisher shouldn’t even work, which seemed to actually be the case, funnily enough. Either way, that was a dope fight ngl
You can see vegito uses kaioken in the last struggle against gogeta probably because he has more ki so he used it for a strong final blow
gogeta is stronger because i like him more
The sky is actually green because I like green more. My mommy says I can do anything if I believe, type of logic.
vegito is stronger because I said so and my opinion overrides yours because that's just how it works
True 🗣️🔥🔥🔥
@@Yesbutactuallyno123 i punisher shield ur opinion
@@jace_519 well unfortunately with death battle being the power scaling gods, Vegito > Gogeta is now the Law
I go with Gogeta. The first time he appeared was in the movies timeline. Kakarrot and Bejita of the movies/GT timeline are far stronger than their canon counterparts. For calculating Gogeta is use a formula that Saiyan Scholar created it's his theory. Or at least he is the first I ever heard him say that about the fusion dance- The best of A+The best of BX100= New base. How much you get from the Potara is unclear but it can't be the same as fusion dance.
My goat won. Thank you gogeta fans i love yall and respect yall being the second coolest looking fusion isnt so bad
And yet Gogeta is promoted more lol
@@SageOfLimitlessHandsyet Vegito won
@@traydayebk They also said Omniman cam beat Bardock so.....
@@SageOfLimitlessHands and
@@traydayebk meaning they can and have been objectively wrong
I don't trust DBZ statements coz initially we thought Vegito is a permanent thing and than that was retconned in Super and than also in the DBS Broly movie it was stated Gogeta and Vegito are equal which retconns the rivalry boost thingy that Potara is supposed to have.Also if we're going by feats(which matter more than statements) Gogeta has the upper hand and if we don't want to take any of this into consideration,it does not matter who is stronger because Vegito cannot last long enough to defeat Gogeta which makes Gogeta the automatic winner of this debate.Also the argument of Fusion needing the users to make themselves equal does not apply well to Goku and Vegeta because they are literally equal in power so that already renders that argument useless.
What do you mean retconned in Super.
The Kai never had a mortal use the potara and Vegata and Goku both unfuse because of this lack of info during their Buu fight.
1. "Equally matched trump cards" is not the same as them being the same strength, it's also promotional material from toei, not toriyama himself.
2. It technically isn't a retcon, no kai would be as strong as goku and vegeta or know mortals that were, leading to circumstance where old kai wouldn't know because he'd never experience the situation.
3. If gogeta expends his power he also has the time limit, gogeta ssj4 burns through it super fast, and even a canonical example, ssj3 gotenks had his time limit cut as sated by trunks. Probably because of how much power and how unoptimized the form is.
4. The goku and vegeta being equal thing is completely false atleast in terms of the times gogeta has been shown (current vegeta and goku would be). Fusion reborn gogeta goku is stronger via otherworld training and ssj3. In the broly movie goku is also stronger by a small margin. His ssbk is equal to ssbe vegeta, and he had used ultra instinct (since the broly movie is after TOP). Even in gt, goku had accesed ssj4 naturally,sooner and was stronger in adult base (ssj4 gets rid of the power shrink goku got from being turned into a kid).
This is one of those debate that just turn toxic real quick
Death battle biased take what they say with a grain of salt
I got gogeta forever and always
Death battle kinda cooked here but I wouldn’t be following what they say all the time… Especially after Bardock vs Omni-man…
You say that as if DB still claims to be the end all be all. Thats like saying "this random person said something correct but they aren't right all the time" cause no one will be right all the time lol
the ending pisses me off why would gogeta use stardust breaker he has the memories of goku and vegita i think and they fused into vegito twice by the time gogeta becomes canon and both have done nothing but good so the attack would do nothing
Vegitto being generally better than Gogeta is literally required for Vegitto to be relivant. Why go out of your way to find someone with Potara if the dance is just as strong or stronger. Sure, you'd have to take time to learn the dance, but once you've perfected it, the Potara would be completely useless. I'd rather my favorite fusion be slightly weaker than the alternative than have another cool character banished to the shadow realm of obscurity and uselessness.
Man is speaking fax 🗣️
Dragon Dance will always be a hosted soundtrack
Depends on what Vegito we talking about the one that fought Buu was solid
Last i checked gogeta popped up last in canon meaning the goku and vegeta that fuses in super broly was stronger than in the zamasu arc, on top of that dbs constantly pushed the idea that goku and vegeta are finally equal in power meaning noones lowering power levels effectively meaning the fusions powerlevel shouldnt be effected either way
True but this is hypothetically two goku and vegeta on equal power. Wouldn’t make sense to grab them from different arcs. The question was who is stronger or the better fusion why would they get Vegito from the future trunks arc and have him fight a post tournament of power fusion of goku and vegeta, that’s just dumb. Also super showed many times goku and vegeta weren’t equals, goku was always stronger in each arc idk what you saw lol. U6 arc goku was stronger because of kioken, goku black arc vegeta literally had to go in the time chamber for months to catch up and even then goku still beat FUSED zamasu in a beam struggle while vegeta needed help from trunks, in the t.o.p arc vegeta was way weaker in the beginning since he didn’t have blue evolution until way into the tournament and by then goku already had u.i omen and then later goku got even stronger by having master u.i lol. So in what part in super was vegeta and goku equal lol? Vegeta is my fave character in all of anime but even I know goku was always stronger in besides maybe the granolah arc and even then that’s debatable.
I think the only way to give Gogeta a short fight win based on what they said is to acknowledge that fights in DB without the intent to stall (get absorbed on purpose or turn negative energy into positive energy; baiting) are generally about five minutes as even Vegeta thought 1 minute was a long time especially against some blatantly stronger than himself, Piccolo thought 30 minutes was ridiculous, and that all fights after Goku vs Jackie already compact the afternoons spent fighting back then into that time frame and the fusions don’t care for it.
Additionally, matching power levels is what makes the fusion work, and doesn’t necessarily mean the remaining power isn’t contributed to the fusion otherwise there’s no point in drawing out the power to the max thereafter when comparing both fusions.
Overall, the battle hinges on how you think their timers play apart in things, but only Vegito has the option to stall while Gogeta’s techniques just seem more mystical, hence why Vegito likely would win 5.5 out of 10 times more. But I’d personally think the more naturalistic fusion would fit the themes of DB more to edge a W outside of pragmatism.
Yessir Vegito Hada take that. Gogeta go crazy but I’ve always been team Vegito
The only argument I didn't agree with was with the power difference, simply because there have been plenty of times where Vegeta was on par with Goku and even instances where he was stronger, it's a constant back and forth, so they could have excluded that point from the battle and just acknowledge it and put them both at the same level. Regardless, Vegetto has objectively the upper hand, unless the writers decide otherwise and we all know who TOEI prefers of the two.
If the goku and the vegeta are even, the fusions are even, at least in the most updated answer. This is further proven (as if toriyamas guide statement wasn’t enough from Dbs broly) by the fact in dbs broly gogeta himself states the exact same multiplier as what vados said for potara. Just because the dance requires the users power to match when fusing, doesn’t mean it doesn’t add their users individual full powers, because it does, as Gogeta says. It’s simply just a starting requirement.
Toriyama olso said vegito is stronger so....
The fusions are equal at this point and will continue to be equal as long as the franchise continues. I don't take death battle or the results too seriously and neither should y'all. Just use it as a jumping off point
The fusion are NOT equal
@@YourboyStink how so? they are definetely equal cause Toriyama said so, their feats are similar, They both have the same forms, they are close in power in the game, they both have a time limit now. Anything else?
@@alexlovehall7796 Toriyama also said Vegito is stronger. Potara fusion has always been stated to be more powerful than fusion dance. There’s no evidence that Gogeta is stronger, but tons of evidence supporting Vegito being stronger. Take the L bud 🤷🏾♂
@@YourboyStinkthey are.
@@reg6790Which one was said more recently thought? Never heard of a retcon before?
No hay debate porque los dos son igual de fuertes y ya esta. Nunca habrá canonicamente ninguno superior al otro porque eso enfadaria a los fans de Vegetto o Gogeta. Lo unico diferencial es el tiempo que dura cada fusion, el cual cambiará dependiendo de la conveniencia del guión
No es así en el material escrito por Toriyama.
Mucha confusión viene de que gogeta es el niño mimado de Toei animation, pero en el material del maestro Toriyama está claro.
En el manga original en japonés se explica que "el efecto del potara es superior al de la fusión". Esto significa que el aumento de poder en las mismas circunstancias será mayor.
El tiempo que dura y el aumento por rivalidad son mencionados como algo aparte de la superioridad de los potara.
Cual igual de poder las guías y Akira ya dijo que vegito es superior y la verdad por mucho.
Anyone else remember when vegito defused in like 5 mins when he went blue?
Reminder that these are the same people who said omni-man could beat bardock
A broken clock is correct twice a day
@@mikederdrache3305 this wasn’t one of those times. Gogeta and Vegito are equal.
@@bitviper3430 metamoran fusion still requires you to have the same power level tho
Being wrong sometimes doesn't make you wrong all the time. DB is run by humans.
Should’ve ended in a draw because after gogeta became cannon they stated they were both equal in the broly movie magazine in super, vegito is basically used for short burst fights while gogeta can be used for longer fights, also gt gogeta is a monster only reason they defuse was because of goku being fatigued before they fuse.
The problem why vegito defuse in blue is because vegito was using an imperfect variant of blue which was more unstable while gogeta from broly movie was using a more stable version of blue.
Most people don't know about it
I'm pretty sure that's only a thing in the manga, nothing like that is ever mentioned in the anime.
@lukasruston8618 It's true the power scaling in anime is very wrong like if Goku can fight with fused zamasu using kioken on his on than why VEGITO is only equally strong as corrupted zamasu another example is kefla fighting UI while in manga ultimate Gohan was equally strong as kefla
Please do trunks vs silver next
Vegetto betta. We all knew this
on par with eachother but Gogeta wins
Nah, Gogeta was unserious af.
Them making Gogeta use the Stardust Breaker on Vegito knowing full well it wouldn't work and Giving Vegito Kaioken at the end is some Bullshit, But what to expect from death battle lol.
My guy Vegito uses Kaio-Ken in Heroes multiple times, it's only fair 😭
I like how they bring up Limit Breaker SSJ4 and Blue Evolution just to not have Gogeta use either lmao
@@VeerIsComing Gogeta has Super Saiyan blue evolution and they didn't let bro use it.
@@Absolute_Crimson Yeah ig the fight itself was rushed so they couldn't show everything. I'm pretty sure they had that into account when debating who would win but they couldn't show it in the fight itself which hurts the reputation of the episode
Point is though they did have everything into account so the veredict remains the same
Broly was screaming in pain when he got hit by Stardust Breaker. Let’s not gaslight ourselves into thinking it’s only effective against evil spirits. Stardust Breaker is just a fancy looking Ki blast that deals damage.
And before people come at me with pitchforks, guides can be wrong and out of date. A guide said that the last time Gohan went Super Saiyan 2 was when he showed it to Kibito in the Buu saga. It’s definitely out of date, but also has wiggle room to be wrong, since he had one bang (no extra hair strand and no lightning). Whether or not Gohan was fighting Dabura at Super Saiyan 2 is up for another discussion. But my point is guides can be wrong and out of date. The Stardust Breaker one is definitely one of them.
I like vegito's design more. But gogeta's attacks look better. Both are great anyway
6:17 I definitely believe Gogeta would win before i even finish the video but i also feel like people call vegito blue (also Ssj4 Gogeta specifically) a fraud despite DEFUSION in dragon ball BEING NARRITIVE EVIDENCE towards Strength coming from your bonds, etc. (The spirit bomb as a concept is also evidence of this) and a lot of people don’t know both the Big Bang Kamehameha x100 and the Final Kamehameha would’ve IN FACT One shot both Omega and Zamasu respectively.
ALL HAIL VEGITO
Vegito>cabba>ssj4 gogeta end of debate 😂😂
Base Goku sugoroku space destruction > all end of debate
Vegito used kaioken in blue....so yeah
Base vegito is also said to be as strong as super Saiyan 3 goku. So I always thought that Goku x Vegeta is stronger than goku squared.
Can cc goku beat sun wukong?
i love how after the battle they give a great explanation of why vegito wins, but all the gogeta fans in the chat are just ignoring them and calling it mick cuz their guy didnt win 😂 listen to what they say and maybe youd understand
Current Vegito = Current Gogeta. The only debatable thing is how fast their time limit will run out.
All this time later and this was still Mickey
MY PARLAY
gogeta/vegito fusion
I (kinda) understand why gogeta vs vegitto is an argument if you assume vegetta is equal to Goku in power . But I will never understand the people that say the dance is stronger or better than the potara. For example if you take gohan and krillin. The potara fusion that allows gohan to be at full power is undoubtedly stronger. Even goten and trunks in the buu saga, they literally say trunks has to dial back his power because he’s just stronger than goten(unless I’m misremembering this)
Where the daima reaction sage?
Nobody should trust death battle with db takes, they said bardock (with ssj) lost to omni man, even after acknowledging omni man needed to weak a planet's core and then 2 other ppl to do the plan perfectly to even have a chance to destroy a planet
I believe their power is close enough for one not to have a strong advantage over the other. Vegito Blue lasts 10 minutes against Zamasu in the manga. SS4 Gogeta lasted 15 minutes against Omega shenron. Although I like vegito more, two monkey forms dancing together gives them the time edge they need for victory.
Looked it up from several sources. It seems ssblue vegito lasted around 40 minutes instead of the 10. This would give him the victory hands down.
"Vegito Blue lasts 10 minutes against Zamasu in the manga"
Uhh closer to 40 minutes.
@@SRVaris you are correct.
Factually
You gotta watch hyourinjustu what if animations
Vegito would defuse before even half of Gogetas time ran out
Comparing bags, gogeta's is cooler imo
I disagree entirely Gogeta should have won because of one simple fact, look at the names. Goku/Gogeta, Vegeta/Vegetto who is the primary person in each fusion and their history. Vegeta hasn't won a major battle ever. Goku always kills steals therefore Gogeta would also have plot armour and take the victory.
U know it good when db hero is up
LET'S GOOO VEGITOOOOOO WINS
Okay, without watching the video. I think vegito is gonna win just because it's Deathbattle.
Tho I believe gogeta should since we have seen both gogeta and vegeta in blue forms in super and clearly gogeta is a shit ton stronger
Edit : CALLED IT. Tbh I don't think vegeto should win but if this came from a place of which one is the "better fusion" I can see why they would rule it like that.
tbf that was a strongee goku and vegeta fusing into gogeta
Gogeta from the Broly movie is obviously gonna be way stronger because Vegito blue from the black arc was MULTIPLE ARCS AGO, if goku and vegeta fused into vegito but in the broly movie instead of goku black arc vegito would be stronger
Dawg what kinda thought progress is this 😭 if the same goku and vegeta from the broly movie fused into vegito they would be equal to gogeta and if the same goku and vegeta from black arc fused into gogeta , it would equal to the vegito from that arc , dumbass comment
Vegito defused at blue in zamasu saga because the power drained their time, vegito wouldnt win at all, whereas gogeta went all out in super saiyan blue and stayed the same , plus before the dragon broly movie came out, it was told on a vjump that gogeta was stronger and more balanced than vegito as gogeta (fusion dance) required a balance of levels to fuse whereas vegito (potaras) didnt have a good balance of levels
The brackets are just basically to show that this applies to every other fusion too not just gogeta and vegito, this was the reason why merged zamasu was still able to be challenged by a hakai from goku in the manga as such an imbalance in power on their fusion was very bad , basically combining ssb and ssj2 power levels togethee
"Vegito defused at blue in zamasu saga because the power drained their time, vegito wouldnt win at all"
Which was pre Goku & Vegeta mastering Blue and was like 40 minutes.
"whereas gogeta went all out in super saiyan blue and stayed the same"
You know this how? that fight could have been 1 second for all we know.
This debate shouldn’t even be discussed, it is stated in the DBS Broly movie official guide that Gogeta and Vegito are equal, and for the Vegito fans, if you seriously(with no trolling)rely on a Death Battle to say Vegito wins, there’s actually something wrong with you🤣
The only issue i see if that this is SSj4 Gogeta which GT >>> Super in scaling
Those people think vegito > gogeta.
Is the finisher rainbow ball Stardust Breaker or Soul Punished?
Soul Punisher fit Super Gogeta more since he faced the literal embodiment of evil energy and the attack wiped him off completely, I'm guessing they had to change the concept of the attack a bit for the spectacle in the DBS Broly movie so that it could create a crazy explosion as well
TLDR you can just use both names but nowadays Stardust Breaker is more commonly used
Ss4 limit breaker goku is equal to UI sign CC Goku. CC Goku had to go full Ultra Instinct to beat him. Then he collapsed from exhaustion.
If i remember this right they said if its a short fight then gogeta win long fight vegito wins
My only problem is they mention there strongest forms yet don't even use them in this death battle.
For example they could have used super Saiyan 4 vegetto against super Saiyan 4 Gogeta and then super Saiyan Blue gogeta against blue Vegetto after that ssjblkx50 vegetto if I remember correctly vegetto went up to times 50 in super dragon ball heroes and they could of had gogeta use the blue evolution during the fight.
Now the next is the reason why gogeta would win and that is because if zeno Goku in his limit breaker super Saiyan 4 was equal to UI omen cc Goku who used the silver haired form to defeat xeno Goku then if they used limited breaker super Saiyan 4 Gogeta then Vegetto would have stood no chance especially since it's hinted multiple times that UI omen is stronger than fusion
Now we could also add that ultimate Gohan was able to throw hands with blue Vegetto in super dragon ball heroes manga and anime
I don't have a problem with the outcome but if you are comparing the two full power to full power and you're going to show all of their forms and mention them, then you should use all of their forms
Anyway I personally believe that gogeta would win unless vegetto used UI then I'd give it to vegetto since vegetto would just have to use the silver haired form for a second to over power super Saiyan 4 limit breaker gogeta
Gonna have to disagree with sage on CC goku is the strongest, video game xeno goku is his strongest version. Heros gave a very water down version of Xeno goku but CC goku is like top 3 non canon versions. It’s (Video game) Xeno(Can be scaled to boundless and basically is nigh-omniscient with every type of manipulation in fiction. With a sword that can steal and remove your powers ), Jump force(can be scaled to outer) then CC can be scaled to complex low complex multiverse
14:33 don't care gogeta wins
Gogeta mains. Pick ya loser up. He lost to the goat
Cope
“Please vegito I need this, your kinda too strong 🗣️”
Cope harder sir
It is Vegito but they are both cool it’s just cause vegitos way of talking and he just is stronger
Potara >>>>>>>> Dance is canon.
Vegito casually one shots Gogeta in base.
Stop it
@@BK-dl1od Nah.
where you getting this from
@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569 as much as I dont like it, the Supreme Kai said as much when he first gave Goku the potara earrings.
@@justasimplemanworkinghiswa1569Old Kai himself said that potara is better than the dance.
Potaras has a power limit and if you go past it you defuse faster. Gogeta has no power limit. Hope this helps🥰
Ummm fusion dance also has a power limit (Gotenks and GT Gogeta)
@@thejuicer7106 that's right fusion dance also splits up without a warning like when Gotenks tried to challenge freeza in super but defused without a warning or when Gotenks took a hit from harudagan in wrath of the dragon movie and split apart on the spot.
Not to mention what will happen if a villan wants to destroy earth and the dance fails these are the reason why potara are stated superior by toriyama in manga it's ultimately improved method for fusion
nah ill never forgive vis for callin him VEGEROT 😭😭
I aint watch heroes but vegito went kaioken at the end an thats how he won(at least in the fight). Has only Vegito gone kaioken in heroes?
SSJ4 Gogeta went kaio-ken once in Heroes I believe but by that point in the battle he had switched up to Blue so it wouldn't have made sense
Vegito used kaio-ken multiple times on top of Blue so it's fair
Vegito goes kaioken in Super, not just Heroes
You can tell vegito was gonna win a mile away lol they been on record saying they don't like GT and w.e they don't like they have lose this is a thing in deathbattle lol. They gave gogeta everything from heroes to super being though heroes has better showcasing for gogeta making him out stronger than vegito lol.
im a vegito agenda pusher but even i can admit gogeta easily got the better bag 😂
honestly based off the feats and statements from Super, i would 100% put Gogeta over Vegito. if any of the statements about Broly being as strong or stronger than Beerus, i can’t really see how Gogeta loses. nice match up though, i’m forever gonna be a Gogeta fan, his drip, bag and skills are just too cool to not like.
On the manga there Is a similar statement where Vegito Is as strong if not stronger than beerus (It was stated by supreme Kai so it could as well be wrong)
@ but wouldn’t that make Gogeta and Vegito equal if anything, taking into the fact that Broly is as strong, if not stronger than Beerus all by himself. Gogeta beat him in Blue after so many Ki draining attacks, all while not defusing once during the fight.
Of course Broly movie Gogeta is beating Zamasu arc Vegito, they’re a stronger Goku and Vegeta. The death battle uses the same Goku and Vegeta.
Beerus is much much stronger than broly@@highbeamneem4607
This topic is so old. SSj4 Gogeta will always win in the design department, though.
Nah Gogeta wins my heart lol it’s honestly a good death battle the worst one they’ve made
React to barrack obeezys cell became a twitch streamer
Yep Original Manga says Potara>>>
The only time death battle got a take correct. Vegito respectfully slams gogeta
You think Homelander bests Omni man?
Sage keeps saying we dont know who CC Goku is…..
But thats NOTHING compared to JUMP FORCE Goku…. Or better yet…. GOD FUSION Goku… yeah…. I know for a dam FACT yall and even TSO dont know who they be so dont be dragging CC Goku’s balls like he’s really him shit considering how broken the powerscaling is for GT O bet even GT Goku clears em
Watch how I get rageful ass comments for no reason in a couple hours or so whether yall like it or not what im saying here is facts especially if YOU yourself know but if you dont know then shit you just dont know and obviously not gonna know any better but to just rage at this comment or some nonsense
Bro Talking to himself 💀💀💀
@@MONKELIQUIDITYOFSORTS777
I raged super hard at this
@@kimberlyfrye8116 nah im rage baiting or atleast it might look like im rage baiting
Am I the only one who prefers Blue Gogeta? 🤔
Gogeta got better moves & better drip
Please react to HyrouinJutsu!
this title meant nothing and it was as close as people thought. No real debating at all bruh
18:02 Yes he does
No he does not
Why?
@@storm_9081 Because Gogeta is the stronger fusion. Sure his fusion method is less superior but it has 1 thing that the potara don't and that is control.
For potara it doesn't matter if the people are on the same level of power but fusion does. Now Goku is 3x more stronger than Vegeta let's say that.
Now when they fuse with the potara Vegito's energy is a bit messed up remember energy control is almost everything in Dragon ball and if you don't have it you have a little bit of a disadvantage
So now back to Fusion- You and your buddy have to be on the same scale of power and once you two fuse your energy is perfect in balance
Now because of that 1 single that Gogeta win's and yes I know that the potara protects this from happening but this is raw power and chaotic energy flow we are talking about do you really think the potara is that strong and cable of handling that 🧐
@@theeblackroyal Look at my explanation
The only reason why he won was because he had no evil in him. The move stardust breaker only works on those who are evil for example broly did not die like janemba, the downside is that when uses it on someone not pure evil, he will turn to stone.( not from vegito) and we all saw how stardust breaker went straight through the blast easily before Turing to stone. (Sry it is taking so long😅) also all the villains that vegito fought could have been one shot by gogita with stardust breaker😂.
It worked on broly, explanation there?
@@dragonluck777it didnt work on broly thats why gogeta smirks right before broly gets wished back to his planet
YES MY BOY
Bro Is disappointed 😔