@@HeadCannonPrime Its an overreaction that is understandable imo. That said i do like the actress and interviewers should think better about their questions.
Aubrey Plaza was also in the Marvel show Legion back in the day. No one remembers that show, probably because it had to tiptoe around its ties to the X-Men universe. But I thought it was great television. Well, the first season was.
I agree. I thought she was being sarcastic too but this time around may prevent some people from watching it. I saw the first 2 episodes and liked it. Not great but very watchable. I also saw Drinker's review and don't agree with his opinion.
@@uonecar Yes, I do. I liked the first episode better than Joe's. I was invested in the police investigation and thought they revealed who the body was too soon, I wish it would keep going for longer. I do understand that the police investigation was never ''serious'', was just a diversion. Anyway, the actress and the character are very likeable even if she is no hero. I like Aubrey too from Parks and Recreation. I Think they did really well to pair these 2 together.
I assume Aubrey plaza was joking. She has a tendency to not have too much of a filter on what she says and will just say things in a joking matter. Aside from that, I’m not interested in the show, but if it’s somehow good then I’ll give it chance.
On the one hand I would assume it was a joke, on the other witches are mostly female so I would assume they have a few gay characters just to have "power couple" shipping in the show. I don't see many guys in the show to cut down on cast.
I don’t give a shit about the sexuality of the characters in ANY entertainment. That fact is normally IRRELEVANT. Just write the characters to be interesting and compelling and if they happen to be gay, whatever. There’s nothing interesting about being gay just like there’s nothing interesting about a character being straight. In fact, making the sexuality of a character one of the most relevant things about them is the biggest cop out and does a disservice to the character. Personally, I think it’s insulting to gay people that the only effort they put into the gay characters is the fact that they’re written to be gay. These studios treat the LGBT demographic, their supporters, and the characters as if they’re so simple minded and easier to please than everyone else. As if simply making a character be gay af is enough to satisfy their attention spans. Idk how that’s not insulting to gay people and the characters.
This is actually what quite a few LGBTQ+ people have said, including a couple of friends - Most of them are quite discerning and are big lovers of literature, so they know a good story when they see one. It was pointed out to me that this is a natural component of change like this, new ways of thinking and living being tested and practised live, and the "equal and opposite reaction", swing the balance of things one way and then the other like a pendulum. The hope is that the understanding is there that things like representation in media can be refined over time so that everyone still feels represented, but no-one is being replaced and these facets of characters will be incorporated more naturally with time. Honestly it's fine with me as I can identify with a character with admirable values (honesty, integrity etc) and enjoy dastardly villains regardless of their "background", what irritates me more than a write with a poor grasp on storytelling is when a fellow reader fails to understand that a protagonist does not need to be exactly like them to have common ground with them, to be relatable. Only those obsessed with power fantasy or a main characters' "surrogacy" for the audience NEED to see someone just like them.
@@FactoryDan idk haven’t watched it and probably won’t. Not because the characters might be gay but because I really have no interest in watching an Agatha show. I like the character and thought she did a great job in wandavision but I’m just not interested in a full blown show. I’m sure that’ll be enough for me to be considered a homophobe in the eyes of Disney though.
@@thebackup2121 I think the big issue is it's taken a long time for those kind of characters to receive criticism. It's the same reason there's so many "strong, independent" female protagonists that are literally just different versions of 2000 male protagonist assholes. Always want more Atomic Blonde than Captain Marvel.
SPOILER- the teen boy is 100% going to end up being Wiccan from the comics. Which turns out to actually be one of Wanda's twins that was inadvertently created by her.
That’s what I figured too. It’s why he was good enough to dispel Wanda’s magic on Agatha; he’s gay in the comics so the little cell caller reference makes sense; we can’t hear his name yet because it would give it away.
My issue with Marvel movies and shows in general, with the EXCEPTION of Loki, is that none of this doesn't feel like it's going anywhere. Pre-Infinity War, the movies were building up to have all these characters meet up and fight the Ultimate badguy. This is just different characters having their own issues and problems, and I'm waiting for something to happen already.
I had fun with the first two episodes. I honestly really enjoy the idea of these "outcast" witches starting a group and then trying to overcome something together. Its charming. They also have some "horror" moments which I appreciate. It isn't just another comedy show.
Who wants to bet Joe will have to eat his words in a couple weeks AGAIN, cause he is rating what his imagination thinks up what this show could be and not what is... AGAIN. Yeah, this does not make me wanna watch this one bit 🤷♂
@@bryanbarajas5499 Because by that logic, we'd all have to watch every single movie and show that comes out. Nobody (including you) is going to do that. You're going to watch what you think might interest you based on word of mouth, trailers, reviews, etc. You do the exact same thing.
The whole "it's not for you, so just don't comment" or "if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything" is a BS cop-out. Not only am I not obligated to watch something, I am not obligated to like it, and most importantly I am not obligated to stay silent in my dislike. That being said, I love Catherine Hahn and Aubrey Plaza, and I sincerely hope the show is good.
Depends on what you're disliking. If someone says that they dislike the way a show is written w/o even watching it, then they're not qualified to talk about its writing.
I think you guys are doing a disservice to yourselves by pointing out the other extreme side of the "woke" mob. Just ignore both extremes and speak to the silent majority who for the most part, are generally apathetic
Genuine apathy. I have no interest in watching Andor any more than I did The Acolyte. Rare exceptions exist, like the recent Deadpool/Wolverine movie, but otherwise these franchises are essentially dead to me.
Being of an honest opinion (especially someone who survived that trainwreck, which was The Acolyte) i did not have a problem with these first two episodes. The second one was the best one and think they have a solid beginning. I hope the rest of the show will be like this.
The town is the town Wanda took over in her spell. They know what happened. Agatha has been trapped in that spell since the end of Wanda Vision. The town people know her, but she has basically been “sleeping” in the spell for years.
@@markmcgowan3692 Oh my God, how embarrassing, her poor neighbors played along with it, probably because they were scared of her, all the people in west of you watched the battle with Wanda and Agatha. I’m not sure if the neighbors knew that Wanda put a spell on her. They probably just thought she lost her marbles lol, but the neighbors knew that she’s a villain so maybe that’s why they were so nice to her just in case she got her magic back lol. Poor herb she probably walked outside every day babbling to him about a show she was on. I died laughing when Herb said it seems like the crime Bug bit you these past few days lmao
This is how it always goes with Joe and his moral grandstanding. He talks trash about other channels who keep calling out Diseny and then he ends up agreeing with them a few episodes into series. You look gullible, falling for the same cheese that Disney keeps showing down your throat and then faking outrage when the said shows turns out to be badly written. Why is Joe so surprised that people have lost faith in Disney after so many failed projects in recent years and are not going into these with high hopes? Would you keep giving a resturant a chance if every other meal tastes like sh*t? Get real.
@@JMW10o0oPeople did that with Acolyte and Concord and somehow still got blamed, even tho they were told to "not stick around" since these products weren't for them. Funny how that works.
@@JMW10o0o Oh it's okay. I never had interest in these products from the first place, so I personally don't feel blamed. I'm just describing the situation and how you seemingly can't win with these people. The well has been poisoned.
How dare Joe have his opinion ? How dare he give every series a chance and not just personally attacks actors? There is going to come a day when these hate-tubers are going cause some real harm and get deplatformed.
It's not gay or woman in the show that's the problem it's the fact that that's all they fuckin talk about In headlines and interviews and it's just so annoying to the point where it's like we get it! Tell us something about the STORY
@@HardlyWorkin-kh5uh you're mad about the press and how they are covering it? I haven't seen any of the actual trailers for the show focus on any of that.
Yep, once again he is trying hard to like it just to spite the people calling out Disney's usual lazy nonsense. It's such a shame Joe has become this person, when he came from his golden days of good reviews and pure anger. Now he's some soft pillow where it's questionable if he can be considered a "Man".
@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S no the mature reaction is to point it out and call it out, the people who historically "scoff" at tokenism aren't just the boogeymen white guys you have in your head most black Americans see right through that shit and hate it. The groups that promote it not only are almost entirely made up of white liberal women with no knowledge or understanding of any culture but their own but also hijack existing franchises (where it's not even an issue to begin with) to promote their ideology. If your creating something for the sole purpose of pushing a politcal ideology then the mature thing isn't to close your eyes and plug your ears when it gets brought up but to acknowledge it as being a central aspect of the creation of piece of media
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S but no one actually is doing that probably like 2% of people and that’s what he and others just associate with people who genuinely don’t want this garbage put in front of good story telling
Hey, so I've been watching Joe's videos, and I gotta say, I think he's trying too hard to be progressive. It's like he's so worried about being seen as one of the "good guys" that he ends up defending stuff that's just not good. Like, I get that he wants to be inclusive, but sometimes it feels like he's just overdoing it. And don't even get me started on Disney. They're so focused on diversity that they're forgetting to make good movies. It's like they think just by having a bunch of different characters, they can make up for bad writing. But it doesn't work like that. People are getting tired of it, and I don't blame them. It's not that people hate the show because it's "too gay" or whatever. It's just that the whole representation thing has been overdone, and people are over it.
He's not "trying" to be progressive (or in other words, just a decent normal person), he just is. Get over it dude. Joe isn't one of you reactionary weirdos who is obsessed with complaining about diversity. He's a good guy who couldn't care less about what a person looks like or who they choose to love, because it doesn't matter to him or any other normal person. You need to really analyze your views and get to the root of your bigotry otherwise you'll end up alone. No chick wants to go out with someone like you. You're weird.
You haven't watched any other video on his channel if you think that. Go look at his Rings of Power or Star Wars reviews. Maybe it's time to realize you're part of the silly culture war nonsense and not him.
@@FactoryDan Sooo are we saying that the critically acclaimed Shogun released this year does not exist? Or the Bear? Or Curb your Enthusiasm? Or Fallout? or Fargo? or Loki? or Andor? Like what do you want?
@@VaeSapiens from your standards Shogun should be called racist because there was no black people in it, lolol. Was just a white savior show catered to the right probably, ha ha. As for what I want. More good shows. Less Agathas and Acolytes. Is that too much to ask
Joe shit like that has been in multiple shows and it's always bad and you keep dissing the channel's that call this out but you don't you'll sometimes do but then you shit on the other channel's stop that shit joe makes you look bad
"If you dont like it dont watch it" doesn't make sense because then when the show fails and no one watches it, its because all the "haters and bigots" decided not to watch it. Its gonna be our faults no matter what.
@@HeadCannonPrimenobody is concerned what some suits believe caused the failure.. Its just the constant cycle of denial that some people just refuse to see the pattern and how it tends to repeat itself in comical fashion.
@@HeadCannonPrimeI think he's talking about fans who liked the shows and then blamed the opposite side for the shows getting cancelled. In truth they should be blaming Disney, not the people who did as they were told and just chose not to watch it. If a show fails to gain viewership it was a bad product. Simple as that.
@@cleanseroftheworld If you don't care, why did you respond to me at all? You're in YT comments arguing with opposing opinions, just like everybody else. You're rolling in the same mud pit.
Guarantee after three or four episodes they're gonna U-turn and say how much they hate it and go back to update these reviews. Anyone remember she hulk?
You guys are watching a spin off of a spin off but couldn't bring yourselves to watch Gen-V, bc "You shouldn't need to watch spin off to keep up with the main story"🙃
So this Road can grant a wish... MCU has had like 3 or 4 Wish mcguffin devices since Endgame. Multiverse Madness has that anti Darkhold book, Thor 3 has that wish granting magic space location, multiverse in general with infinite possibilities is basically the same thing.
Remember Joe gave acolyte a 6 and she hulk a 9 for their premiere. I am a loyal angry Joe fan, but I always remember the guys are in the tank for Disney and are incapable of giving an honest review of a Disney plus series. whatever angry Joe scores a Disney plus show the real score is 3 points lower.
Joe does seem overly lenient with D+ shows, but Alex gives way better takes when it comes to Disney series and doesn’t seem to let his optimism tint his opinion of what a show is in that moment. He was a lot more critical of The Acolyte than the others. Grading D+ shows on a curve isn’t a thing I’ve seen with all 3 of the guys.
Honestly, I went into this show ready to hate it, because I seriously did not like the trailers and other stuff they released. But so far, I am really enjoying it, those two episodes are both like 7/10 for me and right now, it is among the better disney marvel shows, hope they maintain the quality.
In other news AJS feels that Concord is a solid game with intersting character designs, and a fun game mechanic that will provide enjoyment for years to come. 8/10
This show feels like it is for people who didnt love marvel 10 years ago, its for the wine moms who grew up loving the hex girls and hot topic. Which is fine, but im going to say what i want to say.
The reaction is mainly escalated because they said literally the same things before Acolyte and some people simply feel like Disney is doing everything it can to shut down fun for them in order to get more money from other sources. Think about that what you will, just saying what I see around the internet. I like Aubrey in Legion, that show started SOO fkin good, the first season is stil one of my favorite shows ever. This show probably is not for me but enjoy if it is for you.
Joe, people are done with the stupid trend by both Hollywood and Access Media with their hyper fixation and obsession with pursuing demographic checkboxes rather than STORYTELLING. As we can see in the Rings of Power, The Acolyte etc… Attacking the audience and characterizing them as “racist” or “misogynist” on the basis of fringe stupid tweets is beyond stupid.
Agreed. Is that happening for every show being made currently though? Is that happening in Agatha? How many episodes have you seen of Agatha, just curious. Perhaps it happens in the latter half of the season? Will it be garbage if a gay romance is depicted thats not pursing a checkbox for you?
@@AngryJoeShow As I just mentioned, you and I both know it’s happening and glaringly rampant in Hollywood. Take a look at what Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Amazon have released in the past 4 years. Flop after flop, and all promoted on “appealing to a modern audience” or “subverting our expectations” with political commentary. They just need to focus on CROWD PLEASING escapism films such as Deadpool and Wolverine. I’m merely pointing out to you that a jaded response is completely justified, when the audience hear “this is the gayest show in Marvel” it’s an IMMEDIATE red flag and further evidence of Hollywoods/Access Media’s obsession of demographic chasing rather than story telling. Displaying that this show is going down the same tired and insufferable path that Marvel refuses to learn from.
@skylanders23 but here is the problem... half of these projects have been very good when people actually sit down and watch them and stop taking things said so seriously. However it is guys like you that things so seriously and spam these nothing reviews, that get people to not watch the show. The Marvel's is a prime example of a very good movie that people didn't go to see at all because of this stupid M She U narrative. And now Agatha is gonna be next when the first two episodes are very good, but people take one joke comment made by the actress seriously and just stsrt spamming. "Im not watching gay Disney amymore"
The young guy is gay, it was proven when he got that phone call in the car. I can already tell you Agatha will kill the Salem 7 in the end to get her powers back in the end.
at this point it's just pattern recognition. you pull out your bingo book for "bad woke show/video game/movie" and if you get a bingo, the chances are it's probably gonna suck. and this pattern recognition and bingo book stem from more than a decade of experience with this kind of stuff. like we know how this is going to go ... same as always. it's gonna start maybe decent with the first few episodes. then it's gonna go to absolute trash. people online will criticize it...the creators of the show will attack the fans in response for their criticism and label it as a form of hate towards a vulnerable group or something. journalists will side with the creators and make articles about how "toxic" and "hateful" the fans are for not liking the show and calling it out for being bad. and then ... onto the next show where we do this song and dance routine again.
It’s legit good. Maybe it ain’t for everyone but it’s not like Rupauls Witch Race. It’s like Hocus Pocus meets wanda vision. Pretty good was pleasantly surprised.
So the song by the witches in this show is much better because it was written by the people who wrote let it go for frozen . That is why the witches road was a banger. Get talented people and guess what the shows will be better
Do we need to address the controversy’s every single time we do these types of reviews Joe?? People just wanna know if the shows good. There’s no need to devote time to those controversies that literally have no effect on the actual quality of the show…
@@AngryJoeShow Ignore the people complaining about you not talking about it. Cause it doesn’t have anything to do with how good or bad the actual show is. Pointing out 50 different people making videos on a show that they don’t watch is kind of pointless.
This is so good thus far. OMG Kathryn Hahn is fantastic. The way she switches between Agatha's "masks" is amazing. In case anyone isn't aware there is the saying in Japan of the "3 faces" and Agatha is currently.. Unable to control when and who she shows them to. That ending gave me live action "Hollow Knight" vibes haha.
Tbf, "this show isn't for you" is fair. Waiting for Loki S3 and What If S3 and Hawkeye S2 and Moon Knight S2. That's 4 out of 11 shows. Not much "for me." And pretty sure 3 of those aren't happening. However, I will fight AJ on the idea of "Rings of Power isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* And, "Book of Boba Fett isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* And, "She-Hulk isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* How would you feel about those statements?
Not every show is for every person. I think its pretty easy to address this. Tolkien, has established lore and established fans, then you go and make something that shit on that established lore. That's far different from an original show that's about witches and a witch coven and that has superior writing that Rings of Power and people still shitting on it for including a possible lesbian romance. Who gives a shit? I Know its subtle, but do you understand that difference? Bad writing is Bad writing - that's what ruins most of the shows that are BAD. So far this show's writing is not as Bad as those you mentioned. I find it fascinating you don't believe there are shows created for certain demographics though.
@@AngryJoeShow After this show fails, Disney and crew will blame bigot white males for speaking negatively on the show even though Disney and crew said "DONT WATCH THIS. THIS ISNT FOR YOU" Disney needs to bankrupt itself.
I got to admit, I was actually MILDLY CURIOUS about this Agatha series since it’s a spin-off that’s a direct “consequence” of WandaVision, which I MOSTLY enjoyed. (Also: Jesus Christ, these “terminally online” people need to log TF off their devices for a day or two so they can ACTUALLY reacquaint themselves with how REAL PEOPLE INTERACT IN REAL LIFE. Obviously, Aubrey Plaza was just making a goofy off-hand comment to a question that was honestly REALLY WEIRD TO ASK in the first place and it’s PROBABLY HOW I WOULD HONESTLY RESPOND if being asked that-“oh yea, I TOTALLY WANTED to just make the GAYEST SHOW EVER.” /sarcasm)
The guy asked it of all the cast members, and as far as I can tell, only Joe Locke was able to answer honestly, "It's a show with gay characters, but it's not a 'gay show.'" He gets some protection for his honesty by being gay, whereas the others would have been skewered if they'd answered, "It's a show for everyone."
It's a little quirky but I like it, especially compared to the recent MCU offerings. Kathryn Hahn is great always. I'm tired of this PG crap though, either actually explore the darker parts of the setting and do it justice, or leave it alone.
@@gabrielchin4161 No, not the entire MCU but for this type of content definitely. The Darkhold, witchcraft, that stuff is not nice even in the MCU. They got close in THe Doctor Strange movie with the horror elements but they need to keep that going.
The show is effortlessly funny, very well written, the actress playing agatha is killing it her acting is spectacular, the story is intriguing and different, i love how the cgi is minimal and most props are physical and its crazy how they actually make you care about all the characters only 4 episodes in because they all have their own story to tell and they are not 2 dimensional. It's been a while since the mcu produced something this good, is refreshing and i think it deserves more praise 🤷
Looks like he's following the She-Hulk script for this one. I'm looking forward to the mid-season turn where it turned out the Agatha show was bad all along.
To be fair, it was a stupid answer to a stupid question. But as for the show, I've not watched it and I'm not planning on seeing it. I've seen clips, and it's not for me.
I was NOT expecting to see Kathryn Hahn’s bare ass in a Disney+ series. I believe that it was actually her idea for Agatha to leave the house naked and I can’t believe it was given the okay. On another note, I liked that the premiere made reference to Agatha’s son, Nicholas Scratch, who’s an evil sorcerer in the comics. There was a Wandavision theory that Agatha’s pet rabbit, Scratch, was really her son that she cursed into becoming a rabbit. I believed that theory, but I’m not so sure now. Agatha doesn’t treat her rabbit like it’s actually a person, let alone her own son, and the drawings and trophies scattered around her house during “Agatha of Westview” gives the impression that Nicholas is dead and has been for a while. To add to this, Agatha’s fantasy was based on the crime drama miniseries, Mare of Easttown, which is about a female cop trying to solve a murder while still coming to terms with the death of her son. I’m hoping that this is setting up Nicholas Scratch making an appearance later in the series, even if it’s just as a dream vision that Agatha is forced to have.
Rio is the last witch. She is THEE green witch. Mrs.Hart is just a stand in that Agatha dragged in to use as she had a great green thumb. Some spark of magic and connection to earth.
Honestly it wasn't that bad and for once instead of having to watch unnecessary male nudity like in the Boys ,etc we got a funny female butt scene that wasn't put in to annoy people. Also Kathryn Hahn is a great actress will keep watching.
The fact you guys didn't notice in episode one it setup the entire insanely hilarious idea that she WAS LITERALLY IN THESE PEOPLES HOUSES WHEN HAVING ONE OF HER TV SCENES, she's literally told to go home. Twice, which on the context of a nordic crime show, is a typical trope, but the idea she was literally being accomodated by the nieghbors in her insanity points to her literally doing her work at her "office" in the "chiefs" actual house. Like come on. The entire first episode is hilarious.
I actually liked it. I hard rolled my eyes in episode 2 when all the main characters were checking the list of LGBTQ requirements. Episode 3 saved it for me though. Pretty good stuff here.
Yea that's AJ community now a day's he's has a girlfriend not a wife so yea he has to watch stuff like this and feels the need to keep it relevant this is a liberal at the end of the day the amount of abuse that they could take to their egos is actually kind of astounding it doesn't make them stronger it just kind of is interesting that men like to be in situation if it's anything that has anything to do with woke he's going to watch it and he's going to give it a good review is it going to make it seem like that DEI stuff is amazing and do the same usual Hollywood rant about how were the problem because apparently we're sexes for not being impressed by female women 😑 doesn't need to add anything to the story he's not a real critic he's just part of a bandwagon really that's why I came to watch a weak man simp I can't even be mad 😂😂😂 just glad I'm not in his position he should be either married or engaged but he has a girlfriend 🤔 woke! he is a classic modern day liberal he never grew up and became a man so he stuck in this life where he has to be constantly told what to do and have a mother figure
1:30 the interviewer asked the same question to all the cast he spoke to! Why is that priority over the story and characters etc? The politics takes precedence over everything else.
Wow. Joe, just because you think "Well, this show wasn't made for me," it doesn't absolve you from holding it to your regular ACTUAL standards. You didn't have to be a woman to enjoy most of House of the Dragon did you? Or Buffy the Vampire slayer? Or The Golden Girls? etc... Look, I know you don't want to come across like the OTHER youtubers you mention but, man, COME ON. 1: The writing is terrible (example: they fight but continue to try to kill each other even when they know they can't, the neighbors just go along with and actively prolong Agatha's initial delusion, Rio just lets Agatha go get her powers back even though she wants to kill her, and Agatha just lets someone she caught IN her house (Teen) come along with her on her journey to get her powers back), the acting (especially Katherine Hahn in that ep1 Teen interview scene) is over the top and/or just plain bad, and it's just not entertaining enough to hold most viewers attention -- regardless of gender/sexuality. It just a below average show. Some people will like below average shows and that's okay. But the majority that want actual substance? They won't. And THAT'S OKAY TOO.
The only human take is "If it's not for me, and it's a project that is "of the fandom" that I'm apart of, then it's a misguided show at best, a bad show at worse". If a comicbook project is not made to target comic fans, it is either misguided at best, bad at worse or offensive if it's egregious with it's writing motives. I want to be clear, right now, with how early we are into the series, we are currently only at the former of those options ("misguided"), not the latter ("bad" or "offensive"). But that can always be subject to change as the series progresses. And with disney's recent track record (especially with TV projects). . . a bit of pessimism isn't exactly unwarranted.
I think im just done with disney, there were multiple interviews calling it the "gayest show". I hate the "dont like it dont watch it" the mcu is an interconnecting media, so your saying just dont watch part of it. Or they could make shows for the audience who built the franchise.
I wanted to like this show because I enjoy witchy shows. And I liked the trailer a lot. Charmed is one of my favorite TV show. The premise of this show is very cool, I just wish the writing wasn't so bad. As a woman I'm not constantly talking about makeup or participating in conversations that are all female gender sterotyoes. It's a hard pass.
I think my issue with this show is the fact that they decide to focus on Agatha, a character no one cares about, while they did fing dr strange dirty in his own movie. I’m still waiting for a good movie about dr strange after endgame and they’re messing around with Agatha
Seriously? Mock a guy and say he does not have a wife? You guys really know what team your on, huh? But why must there even be teams? Don't attack people for their opinions man, its beneath you. Just makes no one want to hear you out. And that goes for both sides of this nonsense.
I hate it when Joe tries so hard to come across as different to all the rhose (supposed) "right-wing big0t" reviewers. Yes, they make fun of the "gayest MCU show evaaaaa", but if you say you are willing to judge a show by watching it, you should also apply the same to those reviews. I've watched some of them and despite the thumbnail, they really gave some legit critictisms about why the show's not working or at what it's failing. It made sense. So please, come off your high horse and be real for once.
Shhh… Joe hearing that despite having different values on certain topics, people can still have valid criticisms even if they disagree on other issues.
Joe and the other 2 are major leftist whether they admit it or not. They hate trump and they love abortion and open borders etc which is funny because they're a border state.. I'm unfortunately waiting for joe or the other 2 to receive the repercussions of their choices and voting actions. They will never admit the woke message that is forced into all media.
@Haterator I don't think a scroll through a bunch of thumbnails is a personal attack on them or their content. But I can understand if you viewed it that way. I think I reasonable person knows what type of people he's talking about. Also, a reasonable person knows not all those videos were bad videos. I agree that showing a general screen of thumbnails along with his words could be misinterpreted as an attack. I think he shouldn't have added that visual and just relied on his words and the general understanding that we all know the world we're living in. Some are putting out bad content. But not everyone 🙂🫱🏻🫲🏿
First 2 episodes are pretty surprisingly good.. could go down from here still though 😂 I really wasn’t interested in the show at first, but they won me around so far
this show is shit, after 5 episodes I can say it feels like a job, I watch because I want to know how it ends, thats it. Part of marvel stuff. I watched 2nd episode 3 times because falling asleep was a big problem for me. Its that level of boring.
This doesn't even feel like a Marvel show. Feels like a nickolodian series for middle aged wine moms. Remeber when words like "badass, thrilling and adult" were tied to every Marvel project 10 years ago? Look what they turned the brand into. It's such a joke.
It helps that Marvel is better constructed than Star Wars ever has been, so there's more to work with. Star Wars never had room for growth thanks to Lucas' incompetence
Watched the 2 episodes and I really liked it. Excited for next episode. I liked that it starts like wandavision. The "Agnes of Westview" crimedrama take cracked me up, after "Mare of Easttown" was a big hit in my area. After that is was mostly eerie, what I like. Second episode was hilarious. I laughed out loud a few times. I guess the teen is Wiccan? Would make sense. He's gay in the comics, so I don't see a problem. 🤷
Episode was a decsent transition from WandaVision to Agatha All Along. I just felt it was a bit rushed. I did like how its good at the begining and then it starts falling apart with acting and dialogue getting worse which is actually on purpose because the spell is falling apart.
"This is the gayest Show ever!" Joe: "How dare people notice!" ? Why is joe still pretending this isn't a problem in hollywood? Is he this tribal he's pretending that this doesn't effect the story?
@@AngryJoeShow Focusing on a Show being "Gay" instead of a good show makes problems. Tell me what the Lesbian Kiss scene in the Rise of Skywalker did? Nothing. Ok so did it waste screen time? Yes. So, by default, did it harm the overall project by reducing screentime and budget for other scenes and important dialogue to tie the other scenes together? Yes. This is the entire point of the "Anti SJW" Movement. Idk how you still do not understand this. Look at the Acolyte, you're telling me Headland saying her being Lesbian literally influenced the entire show. The main actor literally called it "The Gayest Star Wars ever" And you're still here pretending to play dumb. Why are you playing dumb? You're a Human being. Superior pattern recognition is one of the things that separates us from most if not all Animals. I'm not saying, "Gay people can't create things!" that's illogical, I'm saying going into it like "We need a gay show" or "We need a female show" in mostly Male Audience IP's is literally toxic to the IP's and Franchises themselves and our overall culture. Let alone making a film or show based on that mindset. Just look at the new Rey movie director, there's a pattern most people can see. Of course there's radicals screaming but it's still a real thing that is happening.
It's not about it being a problem, he brings it up when the witches 7 arrive, the problem is people like you who cry about it everything you see colored or gay people being celebrated.
Joes eternal cycle between "the people calling us sexist for hating this show aren't dumb because we aren't sexist or racist" to "the show Is good and the people who dislike it? Sexists obviously, not me tho, I'm a good boy"
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Aubrey Plaza is just trolling in that interview FYI. That's her MO.
I totally think that was a totally purposeful sarcastic troll too.
Have people forgot who this women is like you know a comedian
The interviewer asked several actors the same thing, and they all answered the same... That it was very 🌈
It's incredibley obvious
True, doesn’t mean the show won’t be trash
Aubrey Plaza has never given a serious answer to anything in her life lol
Rem modern audiences loosing it when she did that “Woodys. Get a Woody in you today” commercial? Lol
Can’t remember the product but it was like that
@@Berry_Best lol I fuckin love her
She's about as serious in interviews as Bruce Campbell is.
The guy asked everyone that same question they all said the same thing
but all the actor s said it is the gayest ever not just mrs plaza
Knowing Aubrey Plaza, she said that sound bite completely tongue in cheek.
Thing is...that guy asked everyone that same question they all said the same so?...
The original question comes from an executive calling it the gayest show, which is worse than an actress saying it
How do you know her
But you don’t know her, you only know the person she allows you to see.
@@DR.DisInfectthis whole comment section acts like they know her on a personal level
If anyone is familiar with Plaza's sense of humor, you'd know not to take anything she says about her projects seriously.
She has the same interview strategy as Bruce Campbell.
She only speaks in Sarcasm. Deadpan humor, sarcasm and being awkward is her whole persona.
“Sense of humor” is a strong word for making “the office” style your entire personality. 🤡
Net trolls have no sense of humor and don't understand sarcasm. Not shocked so many of them flipped out.
@@HeadCannonPrime Its an overreaction that is understandable imo. That said i do like the actress and interviewers should think better about their questions.
Aubrey Plaza was also in the Marvel show Legion back in the day. No one remembers that show, probably because it had to tiptoe around its ties to the X-Men universe. But I thought it was great television. Well, the first season was.
Legion was fire!
Loved all of it personally
I personally loved all 3 seasons of Legion, my favorite Marvel TV Show to date
Legion was top tier. The way they portrayed some battles and mind duels was incredibly unique and clever.
Back in the day? Like, 5 yrs ago? Lol
Take a shot for every comment about Aubrey Plaza being sarcastic in interview... you will die
It was because no one is upset about her interview, but smooth brains tend to let shit go over the head.
Dare I Say you'll become a... Critical Drinker.
Right , people are such sheep
The Power of One,
The Power of Two,
The Power of........
Oh wait, the wrong show
Joke stopped being funny after the billionth time it was spunked onto the comments
Doesn't matter, Disney cannot live that down 🤣
The power of Minnieeeeeeee 🐭
@@scottneil1187 literally didn't see it anywhere but I guess it makes sense...
@@scottneil1187 Scott loves the Acolyte guys stop making fun of it
Aubrey Plaza sounds like she’s just being sarcastic. The straight faced dry humor is her forte
People don’t understand sarcasm anymore.
I agree. I thought she was being sarcastic too but this time around may prevent some people from watching it. I saw the first 2 episodes and liked it. Not great but very watchable. I also saw Drinker's review and don't agree with his opinion.
@@MegaGasek so do you agree with angry Joe's review
@@uonecar Yes, I do. I liked the first episode better than Joe's. I was invested in the police investigation and thought they revealed who the body was too soon, I wish it would keep going for longer. I do understand that the police investigation was never ''serious'', was just a diversion. Anyway, the actress and the character are very likeable even if she is no hero. I like Aubrey too from Parks and Recreation. I Think they did really well to pair these 2 together.
@@MegaGasek I might give it a watch I thought it was going to be like hocus pocus but a bit darker. more of a woman's program
I assume Aubrey plaza was joking. She has a tendency to not have too much of a filter on what she says and will just say things in a joking matter. Aside from that, I’m not interested in the show, but if it’s somehow good then I’ll give it chance.
3/10
On the one hand I would assume it was a joke, on the other witches are mostly female so I would assume they have a few gay characters just to have "power couple" shipping in the show.
I don't see many guys in the show to cut down on cast.
I don’t give a shit about the sexuality of the characters in ANY entertainment. That fact is normally IRRELEVANT. Just write the characters to be interesting and compelling and if they happen to be gay, whatever. There’s nothing interesting about being gay just like there’s nothing interesting about a character being straight.
In fact, making the sexuality of a character one of the most relevant things about them is the biggest cop out and does a disservice to the character. Personally, I think it’s insulting to gay people that the only effort they put into the gay characters is the fact that they’re written to be gay.
These studios treat the LGBT demographic, their supporters, and the characters as if they’re so simple minded and easier to please than everyone else. As if simply making a character be gay af is enough to satisfy their attention spans. Idk how that’s not insulting to gay people and the characters.
This is actually what quite a few LGBTQ+ people have said, including a couple of friends - Most of them are quite discerning and are big lovers of literature, so they know a good story when they see one. It was pointed out to me that this is a natural component of change like this, new ways of thinking and living being tested and practised live, and the "equal and opposite reaction", swing the balance of things one way and then the other like a pendulum. The hope is that the understanding is there that things like representation in media can be refined over time so that everyone still feels represented, but no-one is being replaced and these facets of characters will be incorporated more naturally with time. Honestly it's fine with me as I can identify with a character with admirable values (honesty, integrity etc) and enjoy dastardly villains regardless of their "background", what irritates me more than a write with a poor grasp on storytelling is when a fellow reader fails to understand that a protagonist does not need to be exactly like them to have common ground with them, to be relatable. Only those obsessed with power fantasy or a main characters' "surrogacy" for the audience NEED to see someone just like them.
But how can I relate to a character if I don't know who they want to bang?
Is the show actually good though or is the gahye stuff gonna be used as a shield like what happened w/ acolyte
@@FactoryDan idk haven’t watched it and probably won’t. Not because the characters might be gay but because I really have no interest in watching an Agatha show. I like the character and thought she did a great job in wandavision but I’m just not interested in a full blown show. I’m sure that’ll be enough for me to be considered a homophobe in the eyes of Disney though.
@@thebackup2121 I think the big issue is it's taken a long time for those kind of characters to receive criticism. It's the same reason there's so many "strong, independent" female protagonists that are literally just different versions of 2000 male protagonist assholes. Always want more Atomic Blonde than Captain Marvel.
People must not be aware of Aubrey Plaza's humor. She trolls in most of her interviews.
Joe intentionally only played the Aubrey Plaza's answer in order to paint that picture but the resto of the cast said the same thing.
SPOILER- the teen boy is 100% going to end up being Wiccan from the comics. Which turns out to actually be one of Wanda's twins that was inadvertently created by her.
M is a W upside down.
That’s what I figured too. It’s why he was good enough to dispel Wanda’s magic on Agatha; he’s gay in the comics so the little cell caller reference makes sense; we can’t hear his name yet because it would give it away.
Ooh well spotted!
@@CetranOhhh of course anything that’s black, gay, or women in comics remains 100% accurate but everyone else gets race swapped and lore changed right
That seems to be the most obvious call but we have been boenered before!
is that the same interviewer that asked the same thing to the acolyte's cast? god he is cringe.
My issue with Marvel movies and shows in general, with the EXCEPTION of Loki, is that none of this doesn't feel like it's going anywhere.
Pre-Infinity War, the movies were building up to have all these characters meet up and fight the Ultimate badguy.
This is just different characters having their own issues and problems, and I'm waiting for something to happen already.
I had fun with the first two episodes. I honestly really enjoy the idea of these "outcast" witches starting a group and then trying to overcome something together. Its charming. They also have some "horror" moments which I appreciate. It isn't just another comedy show.
Yeah it’s fun enough so far. Hahn is great to watch
Brilliant show!
I’ve genuinely been enjoying it and discussing with friends theorizing what happens next lol
The cheese and camp is damn charming
So you’re telling me the villain has sheer fucking hubris and that will be her downfall? Genius.
Who wants to bet Joe will have to eat his words in a couple weeks AGAIN, cause he is rating what his imagination thinks up what this show could be and not what is... AGAIN. Yeah, this does not make me wanna watch this one bit 🤷♂
How about you just watch the show and find out for yourself if you are wrong? Instead of being a sheep.
💪🏾@@bryanbarajas5499
@@bryanbarajas5499i wish I had the level of cope as you
@@bryanbarajas5499 Because by that logic, we'd all have to watch every single movie and show that comes out. Nobody (including you) is going to do that. You're going to watch what you think might interest you based on word of mouth, trailers, reviews, etc. You do the exact same thing.
@@bryanbarajas5499 Cuz the idea of a review is to inform us if it's worth our time/money.
“My wife isn’t watching the MSHE-U”
Alex: “He’s got the doll sitting there…”
I laughed so hard
Wife seems awfully cringe
Are any of these three married?
@@malcolmbryant9462 Alex has 4 wives. He cooks feasts and extravagant meals for all of them, every day.
@@malcolmbryant9462 so...he is a Latter Day Saint member?
@@malcolmbryant9462they aren’t which is the funny part lol
The whole "it's not for you, so just don't comment" or "if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything" is a BS cop-out. Not only am I not obligated to watch something, I am not obligated to like it, and most importantly I am not obligated to stay silent in my dislike.
That being said, I love Catherine Hahn and Aubrey Plaza, and I sincerely hope the show is good.
You're not, but you're still an asshole for going into spaces where people like something and screaming to the top of your lungs you don't like it.
i am assuming you liked Agatha for calling billy a pet to show off 2 episode
Depends on what you're disliking. If someone says that they dislike the way a show is written w/o even watching it, then they're not qualified to talk about its writing.
I think you guys are doing a disservice to yourselves by pointing out the other extreme side of the "woke" mob. Just ignore both extremes and speak to the silent majority who for the most part, are generally apathetic
Genuine apathy. I have no interest in watching Andor any more than I did The Acolyte. Rare exceptions exist, like the recent Deadpool/Wolverine movie, but otherwise these franchises are essentially dead to me.
The extreme side of the gamer world are the anti woke crowd.
So that's the type of people we'll see/hear the most of.
"shut up, go to hell!." "Maaaake meeee!!." 🤣🤣🤣
This show is perfectly targeted for the three girls on this channel😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeh her acting is really good
You 3 Girls are the target audience...😂😂
Stupid comment...
Being of an honest opinion (especially someone who survived that trainwreck, which was The Acolyte) i did not have a problem with these first two episodes. The second one was the best one and think they have a solid beginning. I hope the rest of the show will be like this.
The town is the town Wanda took over in her spell. They know what happened. Agatha has been trapped in that spell since the end of Wanda Vision. The town people know her, but she has basically been “sleeping” in the spell for years.
So every day she would wake up and she would be in a sitcom? Who paid the bills for the house? Would she go outside and harass people?
@@lbabytutorials4852 Yes, pretty much 😂. Maybe the Avengers paid for the house.
@@markmcgowan3692
Oh my God, how embarrassing, her poor neighbors played along with it, probably because they were scared of her, all the people in west of you watched the battle with Wanda and Agatha. I’m not sure if the neighbors knew that Wanda put a spell on her. They probably just thought she lost her marbles lol, but the neighbors knew that she’s a villain so maybe that’s why they were so nice to her just in case she got her magic back lol. Poor herb she probably walked outside every day babbling to him about a show she was on. I died laughing when Herb said it seems like the crime Bug bit you these past few days lmao
I miss when everything wasn't a fucking culture war. When people weren't so easily offended.
Sjws/Anti-Wokies: 🤬
It's always been that way, social media just amplifies the sounds of these losers
Some would argue the people being disingenuous and gaslighting is adding fuel to the fire.
Ironically Joe liked this comment but he get offended when someone criticise him
😂😂😂😂
@@kamilus4220he also talked about the culture war at the start of the video.
This is how it always goes with Joe and his moral grandstanding. He talks trash about other channels who keep calling out Diseny and then he ends up agreeing with them a few episodes into series.
You look gullible, falling for the same cheese that Disney keeps showing down your throat and then faking outrage when the said shows turns out to be badly written.
Why is Joe so surprised that people have lost faith in Disney after so many failed projects in recent years and are not going into these with high hopes?
Would you keep giving a resturant a chance if every other meal tastes like sh*t? Get real.
There's a lot wrong with your comment but I'll just say this.
Maybe you shouldn't stick around anymore 🤷🏾♂️
@@JMW10o0oPeople did that with Acolyte and Concord and somehow still got blamed, even tho they were told to "not stick around" since these products weren't for them.
Funny how that works.
@coldfire2753 Brother, don't worry about being blamed.
An innocent man fears no one. It'll be ok🙂
@@JMW10o0o Oh it's okay. I never had interest in these products from the first place, so I personally don't feel blamed. I'm just describing the situation and how you seemingly can't win with these people. The well has been poisoned.
How dare Joe have his opinion ?
How dare he give every series a chance and not just personally attacks actors?
There is going to come a day when these hate-tubers are going cause some real harm and get deplatformed.
It's not gay or woman in the show that's the problem it's the fact that that's all they fuckin talk about In headlines and interviews and it's just so annoying to the point where it's like we get it! Tell us something about the STORY
witches have been gay and tied to feminism since antiquity. it's the ONE show they can pull this card with
You have to try to be this triggered and offended lol
TRIGGERED !!!
@@HardlyWorkin-kh5uh you're mad about the press and how they are covering it? I haven't seen any of the actual trailers for the show focus on any of that.
Someone is triggered, most TH-camrs hate shows just because women
The townspeople were trapped in _WandaVision_ but were just humoring Agatha till she snapped out of it in the first episode of AAA.
Ah the classic joe Disney cycle.
1. Say the fans calling the show woke are stupid
2. it’s not that bad
3. You guys were right
4. Repeat
It’s always AJ doing this too.
Yep, once again he is trying hard to like it just to spite the people calling out Disney's usual lazy nonsense. It's such a shame Joe has become this person, when he came from his golden days of good reviews and pure anger. Now he's some soft pillow where it's questionable if he can be considered a "Man".
@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S no the mature reaction is to point it out and call it out, the people who historically "scoff" at tokenism aren't just the boogeymen white guys you have in your head most black Americans see right through that shit and hate it. The groups that promote it not only are almost entirely made up of white liberal women with no knowledge or understanding of any culture but their own but also hijack existing franchises (where it's not even an issue to begin with) to promote their ideology. If your creating something for the sole purpose of pushing a politcal ideology then the mature thing isn't to close your eyes and plug your ears when it gets brought up but to acknowledge it as being a central aspect of the creation of piece of media
omg you're right. its crazy they keep doing it without taking notice
@@g2jxGhF5G8z1gL7S but no one actually is doing that probably like 2% of people and that’s what he and others just associate with people who genuinely don’t want this garbage put in front of good story telling
Hey, so I've been watching Joe's videos, and I gotta say, I think he's trying too hard to be progressive. It's like he's so worried about being seen as one of the "good guys" that he ends up defending stuff that's just not good. Like, I get that he wants to be inclusive, but sometimes it feels like he's just overdoing it. And don't even get me started on Disney. They're so focused on diversity that they're forgetting to make good movies. It's like they think just by having a bunch of different characters, they can make up for bad writing. But it doesn't work like that. People are getting tired of it, and I don't blame them. It's not that people hate the show because it's "too gay" or whatever. It's just that the whole representation thing has been overdone, and people are over it.
He is progressive because he is fairly well educated, that’s all.
He's not "trying" to be progressive (or in other words, just a decent normal person), he just is. Get over it dude. Joe isn't one of you reactionary weirdos who is obsessed with complaining about diversity. He's a good guy who couldn't care less about what a person looks like or who they choose to love, because it doesn't matter to him or any other normal person. You need to really analyze your views and get to the root of your bigotry otherwise you'll end up alone. No chick wants to go out with someone like you. You're weird.
You haven't watched any other video on his channel if you think that. Go look at his Rings of Power or Star Wars reviews. Maybe it's time to realize you're part of the silly culture war nonsense and not him.
Did everyone just see the trailer and ask wtf is disney doing? Lol
Not Angry “I like magic” Joe
Keep hearing “this show is not for you”. Just wondering when they gonna make one that is.
MFer who is "You"?
@@VaeSapiensjust a normal person probably 😗
Seems everything now is made for the .01% of the population
No shows from the MCU so far have been "for you"? ...Just asking. What kind of show is "for you". I'm curious.
@@FactoryDan Sooo are we saying that the critically acclaimed Shogun released this year does not exist?
Or the Bear?
Or Curb your Enthusiasm?
Or Fallout?
or Fargo?
or Loki?
or Andor?
Like what do you want?
@@VaeSapiens from your standards Shogun should be called racist because there was no black people in it, lolol. Was just a white savior show catered to the right probably, ha ha. As for what I want. More good shows. Less Agathas and Acolytes. Is that too much to ask
"If you're counting the number of women on screen, this is not the show for you"
I mean, this is a show about witches, I hope they're not.
Joe shit like that has been in multiple shows and it's always bad and you keep dissing the channel's that call this out but you don't you'll sometimes do but then you shit on the other channel's stop that shit joe makes you look bad
"If you dont like it dont watch it" doesn't make sense because then when the show fails and no one watches it, its because all the "haters and bigots" decided not to watch it. Its gonna be our faults no matter what.
Why do you care if a billion dollar company thinks their failure is "your fault"? You owe no loyalty to any company ever.
@@HeadCannonPrimenobody is concerned what some suits believe caused the failure..
Its just the constant cycle of denial that some people just refuse to see the pattern and how it tends to repeat itself in comical fashion.
@@HeadCannonPrimeI think he's talking about fans who liked the shows and then blamed the opposite side for the shows getting cancelled. In truth they should be blaming Disney, not the people who did as they were told and just chose not to watch it. If a show fails to gain viewership it was a bad product. Simple as that.
@coldfire2753 Who fucking cares what internet people think? God, its too easy with you people.
@@cleanseroftheworld If you don't care, why did you respond to me at all?
You're in YT comments arguing with opposing opinions, just like everybody else. You're rolling in the same mud pit.
so when do they start reviewing the actual show rather than the reviewers they believe themselves better than?
About 4:00
Literally 4 minutes in you plebian
Guarantee after three or four episodes they're gonna U-turn and say how much they hate it and go back to update these reviews. Anyone remember she hulk?
The best thing about this show is them not only showing nudity, but female nudity. Truly revolutionary.
You guys are watching a spin off of a spin off but couldn't bring yourselves to watch Gen-V, bc "You shouldn't need to watch spin off to keep up with the main story"🙃
Which wasn't even necessary in the case of Gen V. I'm sad they missed that one it was really solid.
So this Road can grant a wish... MCU has had like 3 or 4 Wish mcguffin devices since Endgame.
Multiverse Madness has that anti Darkhold book, Thor 3 has that wish granting magic space location, multiverse in general with infinite possibilities is basically the same thing.
1:25 That sounds exactly like an Aubrey Plaza response. Do people not get it?
Joe so afraid to get cancel XD
Thats nothing new 🤣
Because he doesn’t hate a show? He’s allowed to enjoy something without it being a political debate.
Why do you want to cancel him? lol
@@M0M0117foreal, he said he didn’t like the first episode and liked the second which is fair
@@drtyscoundrelldo i ? im not a rainbow hair guy ....
Remember Joe gave acolyte a 6 and she hulk a 9 for their premiere.
I am a loyal angry Joe fan, but I always remember the guys are in the tank for Disney and are incapable of giving an honest review of a Disney plus series.
whatever angry Joe scores a Disney plus show the real score is 3 points lower.
So he's a Disney Shill huh.
Joe does seem overly lenient with D+ shows, but Alex gives way better takes when it comes to Disney series and doesn’t seem to let his optimism tint his opinion of what a show is in that moment. He was a lot more critical of The Acolyte than the others. Grading D+ shows on a curve isn’t a thing I’ve seen with all 3 of the guys.
Rogue 6: Ahhhhhhh!
Rogue 6: I’m clear but my fighters down!
"Simply Red standing by."
Honestly, I went into this show ready to hate it, because I seriously did not like the trailers and other stuff they released. But so far, I am really enjoying it, those two episodes are both like 7/10 for me and right now, it is among the better disney marvel shows, hope they maintain the quality.
In other news AJS feels that Concord is a solid game with intersting character designs, and a fun game mechanic that will provide enjoyment for years to come. 8/10
This show feels like it is for people who didnt love marvel 10 years ago, its for the wine moms who grew up loving the hex girls and hot topic. Which is fine, but im going to say what i want to say.
Thank you for speaking facts
The reaction is mainly escalated because they said literally the same things before Acolyte and some people simply feel like Disney is doing everything it can to shut down fun for them in order to get more money from other sources. Think about that what you will, just saying what I see around the internet. I like Aubrey in Legion, that show started SOO fkin good, the first season is stil one of my favorite shows ever. This show probably is not for me but enjoy if it is for you.
Joe, people are done with the stupid trend by both Hollywood and Access Media with their hyper fixation and obsession with pursuing demographic checkboxes rather than STORYTELLING. As we can see in the Rings of Power, The Acolyte etc… Attacking the audience and characterizing them as “racist” or “misogynist” on the basis of fringe stupid tweets is beyond stupid.
Agreed. Is that happening for every show being made currently though? Is that happening in Agatha? How many episodes have you seen of Agatha, just curious. Perhaps it happens in the latter half of the season? Will it be garbage if a gay romance is depicted thats not pursing a checkbox for you?
@@AngryJoeShow As I just mentioned, you and I both know it’s happening and glaringly rampant in Hollywood. Take a look at what Marvel, Lucasfilm, and Amazon have released in the past 4 years. Flop after flop, and all promoted on “appealing to a modern audience” or “subverting our expectations” with political commentary. They just need to focus on CROWD PLEASING escapism films such as Deadpool and Wolverine.
I’m merely pointing out to you that a jaded response is completely justified, when the audience hear “this is the gayest show in Marvel” it’s an IMMEDIATE red flag and further evidence of Hollywoods/Access Media’s obsession of demographic chasing rather than story telling. Displaying that this show is going down the same tired and insufferable path that Marvel refuses to learn from.
@@skylanders23No. You're dumb. Sorry.
@@bryanbarajas5499He sounds reasonable. You sound offended.
@skylanders23 but here is the problem... half of these projects have been very good when people actually sit down and watch them and stop taking things said so seriously. However it is guys like you that things so seriously and spam these nothing reviews, that get people to not watch the show.
The Marvel's is a prime example of a very good movie that people didn't go to see at all because of this stupid M She U narrative.
And now Agatha is gonna be next when the first two episodes are very good, but people take one joke comment made by the actress seriously and just stsrt spamming. "Im not watching gay Disney amymore"
"Come play with us Agatha!". The twins are portrayed by Willow and The Acolyte.
Virtue signaling at an all time high at the start of this.
It wasn't bad. I'm a sucker for Halloween vibes during fall, so I'll take it.
The young guy is gay, it was proven when he got that phone call in the car.
I can already tell you Agatha will kill the Salem 7 in the end to get her powers back in the end.
at this point it's just pattern recognition. you pull out your bingo book for "bad woke show/video game/movie" and if you get a bingo, the chances are it's probably gonna suck. and this pattern recognition and bingo book stem from more than a decade of experience with this kind of stuff.
like we know how this is going to go ... same as always. it's gonna start maybe decent with the first few episodes. then it's gonna go to absolute trash. people online will criticize it...the creators of the show will attack the fans in response for their criticism and label it as a form of hate towards a vulnerable group or something. journalists will side with the creators and make articles about how "toxic" and "hateful" the fans are for not liking the show and calling it out for being bad.
and then ... onto the next show where we do this song and dance routine again.
It’s legit good. Maybe it ain’t for everyone but it’s not like Rupauls Witch Race. It’s like Hocus Pocus meets wanda vision. Pretty good was pleasantly surprised.
So the song by the witches in this show is much better because it was written by the people who wrote let it go for frozen .
That is why the witches road was a banger.
Get talented people and guess what the shows will be better
Aubrey Plaza was definitely joking.
Aubrey Plaza is the Saint of Sarcasm.
Show is actually a lot of fun. Pleasantly surprised. Hahn is an awesome actress.
😂😂😂😂😂
Wasn’t that bad . In relation to other marvel shows. I’m also biased though because I’m a huge Aubrey Plaza fan.
So just kinda bad
@@BravoRox it was dogshit but not astronomical flaming dogshit
@@BravoRoxI’ll give it two more episodes
Is it better than Secret Invasion?
Well AJS crew seem to like it, so far, like most of us.. but it can still take a nose dive from here..
We’ll see
Do we need to address the controversy’s every single time we do these types of reviews Joe?? People just wanna know if the shows good. There’s no need to devote time to those controversies that literally have no effect on the actual quality of the show…
Damned if you mentioned it, damned if you don't. I've seen people complain both ways. What would you do?
Yes, because if they don't, the loud people lose it calling Joe's crew shills and bought.
@@AngryJoeShow Ignore the people complaining about you not talking about it. Cause it doesn’t have anything to do with how good or bad the actual show is. Pointing out 50 different people making videos on a show that they don’t watch is kind of pointless.
@@AngryJoeShow Keep doing your thing, Joe. This is your channel at the end of the day.
Unfortunately it's the main conversation for every 'im never watching Disney again' person
Stop virtue signalling and review the episode already!
Forreall
“This is not exactly how Disney has promoted the series.” Yeah right lmao
This is so good thus far. OMG Kathryn Hahn is fantastic. The way she switches between Agatha's "masks" is amazing. In case anyone isn't aware there is the saying in Japan of the "3 faces" and Agatha is currently.. Unable to control when and who she shows them to.
That ending gave me live action "Hollow Knight" vibes haha.
Tbf, "this show isn't for you" is fair. Waiting for Loki S3 and What If S3 and Hawkeye S2 and Moon Knight S2.
That's 4 out of 11 shows. Not much "for me." And pretty sure 3 of those aren't happening.
However, I will fight AJ on the idea of "Rings of Power isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* And, "Book of Boba Fett isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* And, "She-Hulk isn't bad, it's just *not for you."* How would you feel about those statements?
Not every show is for every person. I think its pretty easy to address this. Tolkien, has established lore and established fans, then you go and make something that shit on that established lore. That's far different from an original show that's about witches and a witch coven and that has superior writing that Rings of Power and people still shitting on it for including a possible lesbian romance. Who gives a shit? I Know its subtle, but do you understand that difference?
Bad writing is Bad writing - that's what ruins most of the shows that are BAD. So far this show's writing is not as Bad as those you mentioned.
I find it fascinating you don't believe there are shows created for certain demographics though.
@@AngryJoeShow After this show fails, Disney and crew will blame bigot white males for speaking negatively on the show even though Disney and crew said "DONT WATCH THIS. THIS ISNT FOR YOU"
Disney needs to bankrupt itself.
@thedarkemissary
Get a life
Why would Loki get a 3rd season?
Wow, now that you mention all those shows they aren't made for me 🤣 because I refuse to waste my time watching shit!
I got to admit, I was actually MILDLY CURIOUS about this Agatha series since it’s a spin-off that’s a direct “consequence” of WandaVision, which I MOSTLY enjoyed.
(Also: Jesus Christ, these “terminally online” people need to log TF off their devices for a day or two so they can ACTUALLY reacquaint themselves with how REAL PEOPLE INTERACT IN REAL LIFE. Obviously, Aubrey Plaza was just making a goofy off-hand comment to a question that was honestly REALLY WEIRD TO ASK in the first place and it’s PROBABLY HOW I WOULD HONESTLY RESPOND if being asked that-“oh yea, I TOTALLY WANTED to just make the GAYEST SHOW EVER.” /sarcasm)
The guy asked it of all the cast members, and as far as I can tell, only Joe Locke was able to answer honestly, "It's a show with gay characters, but it's not a 'gay show.'"
He gets some protection for his honesty by being gay, whereas the others would have been skewered if they'd answered, "It's a show for everyone."
It's a little quirky but I like it, especially compared to the recent MCU offerings. Kathryn Hahn is great always.
I'm tired of this PG crap though, either actually explore the darker parts of the setting and do it justice, or leave it alone.
Definitely, not the entire MCU, but I would like darker shows/movies.
@@gabrielchin4161 No, not the entire MCU but for this type of content definitely. The Darkhold, witchcraft, that stuff is not nice even in the MCU. They got close in THe Doctor Strange movie with the horror elements but they need to keep that going.
The show is effortlessly funny, very well written, the actress playing agatha is killing it her acting is spectacular, the story is intriguing and different, i love how the cgi is minimal and most props are physical and its crazy how they actually make you care about all the characters only 4 episodes in because they all have their own story to tell and they are not 2 dimensional. It's been a while since the mcu produced something this good, is refreshing and i think it deserves more praise 🤷
For those who want to know the real review starts at 8:55
Looks like he's following the She-Hulk script for this one. I'm looking forward to the mid-season turn where it turned out the Agatha show was bad all along.
To be fair, it was a stupid answer to a stupid question.
But as for the show, I've not watched it and I'm not planning on seeing it. I've seen clips, and it's not for me.
Not bad. Interested to see where they go with it. I'm not too familiar with Marvel witchcraft so my interest is piqued.
I was NOT expecting to see Kathryn Hahn’s bare ass in a Disney+ series. I believe that it was actually her idea for Agatha to leave the house naked and I can’t believe it was given the okay.
On another note, I liked that the premiere made reference to Agatha’s son, Nicholas Scratch, who’s an evil sorcerer in the comics. There was a Wandavision theory that Agatha’s pet rabbit, Scratch, was really her son that she cursed into becoming a rabbit. I believed that theory, but I’m not so sure now. Agatha doesn’t treat her rabbit like it’s actually a person, let alone her own son, and the drawings and trophies scattered around her house during “Agatha of Westview” gives the impression that Nicholas is dead and has been for a while. To add to this, Agatha’s fantasy was based on the crime drama miniseries, Mare of Easttown, which is about a female cop trying to solve a murder while still coming to terms with the death of her son. I’m hoping that this is setting up Nicholas Scratch making an appearance later in the series, even if it’s just as a dream vision that Agatha is forced to have.
Rio is the last witch. She is THEE green witch. Mrs.Hart is just a stand in that Agatha dragged in to use as she had a great green thumb. Some spark of magic and connection to earth.
Honestly it wasn't that bad and for once instead of having to watch unnecessary male nudity like in the Boys
,etc we got a funny female butt scene that wasn't put in to annoy people. Also Kathryn Hahn is a great actress will keep watching.
I find her extremely annoying and cringe as hell.
The fact you guys didn't notice in episode one it setup the entire insanely hilarious idea that she WAS LITERALLY IN THESE PEOPLES HOUSES WHEN HAVING ONE OF HER TV SCENES, she's literally told to go home. Twice, which on the context of a nordic crime show, is a typical trope, but the idea she was literally being accomodated by the nieghbors in her insanity points to her literally doing her work at her "office" in the "chiefs" actual house. Like come on. The entire first episode is hilarious.
I loved the first episode. Especially after this reveal. Its was even more funny.
If it doesn't turn our bad?! C'mon guys. Has any of this mcu banality been good?!
I feel like every time a new show like this comes out Joe always seems to ask is it that bad and then it usually is
I actually liked it. I hard rolled my eyes in episode 2 when all the main characters were checking the list of LGBTQ requirements.
Episode 3 saved it for me though.
Pretty good stuff here.
Acolyte : The gayest Starwars show
Agatha: The gayest Disney show
WTF is goin on...
Marketing?
We all know what’s going on
@@dumplingshakes22you’re coming out soon?????
@@MatthewBreck no but if I did I could be pandered to 24/7 so there’s that.
Tbh it's journos who ask such question, not actors starting this crap on their own. You can never hate journos enough.
Must be alot of queers in the comments that loved the show.
Is that your real name?
Can I find you?
Where do you work?
Im emailing your HR this🤣
Yea that's AJ community now a day's he's has a girlfriend not a wife so yea he has to watch stuff like this and feels the need to keep it relevant this is a liberal at the end of the day the amount of abuse that they could take to their egos is actually kind of astounding it doesn't make them stronger it just kind of is interesting that men like to be in situation if it's anything that has anything to do with woke he's going to watch it and he's going to give it a good review is it going to make it seem like that DEI stuff is amazing and do the same usual Hollywood rant about how were the problem because apparently we're sexes for not being impressed by female women 😑 doesn't need to add anything to the story he's not a real critic he's just part of a bandwagon really that's why I came to watch a weak man simp I can't even be mad 😂😂😂 just glad I'm not in his position he should be either married or engaged but he has a girlfriend 🤔 woke! he is a classic modern day liberal he never grew up and became a man so he stuck in this life where he has to be constantly told what to do and have a mother figure
1:30 the interviewer asked the same question to all the cast he spoke to! Why is that priority over the story and characters etc? The politics takes precedence over everything else.
Wow. Joe, just because you think "Well, this show wasn't made for me," it doesn't absolve you from holding it to your regular ACTUAL standards. You didn't have to be a woman to enjoy most of House of the Dragon did you? Or Buffy the Vampire slayer? Or The Golden Girls? etc... Look, I know you don't want to come across like the OTHER youtubers you mention but, man, COME ON. 1: The writing is terrible (example: they fight but continue to try to kill each other even when they know they can't, the neighbors just go along with and actively prolong Agatha's initial delusion, Rio just lets Agatha go get her powers back even though she wants to kill her, and Agatha just lets someone she caught IN her house (Teen) come along with her on her journey to get her powers back), the acting (especially Katherine Hahn in that ep1 Teen interview scene) is over the top and/or just plain bad, and it's just not entertaining enough to hold most viewers attention -- regardless of gender/sexuality. It just a below average show. Some people will like below average shows and that's okay. But the majority that want actual substance? They won't. And THAT'S OKAY TOO.
The other being logical? Anyone who pushes the message are dangerous. Do your research on why. end of.
@@azncorgilord boooooooooook
I can tell be your points you didn't pay attention to the show or just got talking points off of someone else.
The only human take is "If it's not for me, and it's a project that is "of the fandom" that I'm apart of, then it's a misguided show at best, a bad show at worse".
If a comicbook project is not made to target comic fans, it is either misguided at best, bad at worse or offensive if it's egregious with it's writing motives. I want to be clear, right now, with how early we are into the series, we are currently only at the former of those options ("misguided"), not the latter ("bad" or "offensive"). But that can always be subject to change as the series progresses. And with disney's recent track record (especially with TV projects). . . a bit of pessimism isn't exactly unwarranted.
Aubrey Plaza did great in Legion. Not MCU but was a Marvel tv series.
I think im just done with disney, there were multiple interviews calling it the "gayest show". I hate the "dont like it dont watch it" the mcu is an interconnecting media, so your saying just dont watch part of it. Or they could make shows for the audience who built the franchise.
ive been done. i forgot this show was coming out
Welcome to happiness, you wont miss it.
That's why you're upset? Not because the show is subpar? You're probably just homophobic
"Not enough pussy me no like"
OH YOU ONLY REALIZE THAT NOW!??!?! MY GUY, I UNSUBSCRIBED SINCE ASS SHOKA!
I'm gay and when I hear "the gayest marvel project" it immediately goes on never-watch list.
Represented through bad writing is pretty insulting. Writers hiding behind the rainbow like they are Kevin Spacey.
You cant take anything Aubrey Plaza says serious
You know a lot of the time it never actually happens right?
Sure Jan.
@@achaudhari101provide examples
Joe are you ovulating?
I wanted to like this show because I enjoy witchy shows. And I liked the trailer a lot. Charmed is one of my favorite TV show. The premise of this show is very cool, I just wish the writing wasn't so bad. As a woman I'm not constantly talking about makeup or participating in conversations that are all female gender sterotyoes. It's a hard pass.
I think my issue with this show is the fact that they decide to focus on Agatha, a character no one cares about, while they did fing dr strange dirty in his own movie.
I’m still waiting for a good movie about dr strange after endgame and they’re messing around with Agatha
Seriously? Mock a guy and say he does not have a wife? You guys really know what team your on, huh? But why must there even be teams? Don't attack people for their opinions man, its beneath you. Just makes no one want to hear you out. And that goes for both sides of this nonsense.
Agree. I was a little shocked they went there.
I hate it when Joe tries so hard to come across as different to all the rhose (supposed) "right-wing big0t" reviewers. Yes, they make fun of the "gayest MCU show evaaaaa", but if you say you are willing to judge a show by watching it, you should also apply the same to those reviews. I've watched some of them and despite the thumbnail, they really gave some legit critictisms about why the show's not working or at what it's failing. It made sense. So please, come off your high horse and be real for once.
Shhh… Joe hearing that despite having different values on certain topics, people can still have valid criticisms even if they disagree on other issues.
Joe and the other 2 are major leftist whether they admit it or not. They hate trump and they love abortion and open borders etc which is funny because they're a border state..
I'm unfortunately waiting for joe or the other 2 to receive the repercussions of their choices and voting actions. They will never admit the woke message that is forced into all media.
If they gave legitimate reviews, then they are not the people he's talking about. Very simple.
@@JMW10o0o Did you not watch the video? He generalized all of them. Simple as that.
@Haterator I don't think a scroll through a bunch of thumbnails is a personal attack on them or their content. But I can understand if you viewed it that way. I think I reasonable person knows what type of people he's talking about. Also, a reasonable person knows not all those videos were bad videos. I agree that showing a general screen of thumbnails along with his words could be misinterpreted as an attack. I think he shouldn't have added that visual and just relied on his words and the general understanding that we all know the world we're living in. Some are putting out bad content. But not everyone 🙂🫱🏻🫲🏿
Loved it! Can't wait for episode 3.
First 2 episodes are pretty surprisingly good.. could go down from here still though 😂
I really wasn’t interested in the show at first, but they won me around so far
this show is shit, after 5 episodes I can say it feels like a job, I watch because I want to know how it ends, thats it. Part of marvel stuff. I watched 2nd episode 3 times because falling asleep was a big problem for me. Its that level of boring.
This doesn't even feel like a Marvel show. Feels like a nickolodian series for middle aged wine moms.
Remeber when words like "badass, thrilling and adult" were tied to every Marvel project 10 years ago?
Look what they turned the brand into. It's such a joke.
Star Wars must be seething at seeing Marvel succeed in making a cool witch song.
It helps that Marvel is better constructed than Star Wars ever has been, so there's more to work with. Star Wars never had room for growth thanks to Lucas' incompetence
Watched the 2 episodes and I really liked it. Excited for next episode. I liked that it starts like wandavision. The "Agnes of Westview" crimedrama take cracked me up, after "Mare of Easttown" was a big hit in my area. After that is was mostly eerie, what I like. Second episode was hilarious. I laughed out loud a few times.
I guess the teen is Wiccan? Would make sense. He's gay in the comics, so I don't see a problem. 🤷
Episode was a decsent transition from WandaVision to Agatha All Along. I just felt it was a bit rushed. I did like how its good at the begining and then it starts falling apart with acting and dialogue getting worse which is actually on purpose because the spell is falling apart.
"This is the gayest Show ever!"
Joe: "How dare people notice!"
? Why is joe still pretending this isn't a problem in hollywood?
Is he this tribal he's pretending that this doesn't effect the story?
Yes
Why are you pretending that a show being "gay" is a problem in hollywood?
@@AngryJoeShow Focusing on a Show being "Gay" instead of a good show makes problems.
Tell me what the Lesbian Kiss scene in the Rise of Skywalker did? Nothing. Ok so did it waste screen time? Yes.
So, by default, did it harm the overall project by reducing screentime and budget for other scenes and important dialogue to tie the other scenes together? Yes.
This is the entire point of the "Anti SJW" Movement. Idk how you still do not understand this.
Look at the Acolyte, you're telling me Headland saying her being Lesbian literally influenced the entire show.
The main actor literally called it "The Gayest Star Wars ever"
And you're still here pretending to play dumb. Why are you playing dumb? You're a Human being. Superior pattern recognition is one of the things that separates us from most if not all Animals.
I'm not saying, "Gay people can't create things!" that's illogical, I'm saying going into it like "We need a gay show" or "We need a female show" in mostly Male Audience IP's is literally toxic to the IP's and Franchises themselves and our overall culture. Let alone making a film or show based on that mindset.
Just look at the new Rey movie director, there's a pattern most people can see. Of course there's radicals screaming but it's still a real thing that is happening.
It's not about it being a problem, he brings it up when the witches 7 arrive, the problem is people like you who cry about it everything you see colored or gay people being celebrated.
@@AngryJoeShowdon’t waste your time talking to people like these joe. Just do the awesome reviews you are doing👍🏻 most of us here enjoy it
Joes eternal cycle between "the people calling us sexist for hating this show aren't dumb because we aren't sexist or racist"
to
"the show Is good and the people who dislike it? Sexists obviously, not me tho, I'm a good boy"