Power of the People: The Shoreham Nuclear Power Plant
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- This year marks the 30th anniversary of the deal that ultimately shuttered the plant. News 12 Digital revisited the story of the Shoreham nuclear plant to explore how the power of the public's voice rose above the pitch of the nuclear age.
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To be a little fair to Lilco, restoring power lines after a massive hurricane, and the technical and organizational capacity to run a nuclear power plant are two separate things.
I'm not saying they were able to do either, but it is a disingenuous comparison to make.
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Maybe if they had paid union leeches less, and Mario Cuomo more, they would be in operation today?
This documentary is nicely balanced,ending with the point of the power of the public's voice. Well done, News 12.
There is a nuclear power plant almost directly across the LI sound operating safely for decades. The labor unions used Shoreham as their own personal ATM's as they usually do on public projects. 5.5 billion dollars for a 150 million dollar plant and 13 years to build. If Shoreham was built in the time frame and even remotely on budget our electric bills would be 1/10th of what they are now. Now if we're talking about whether it should have been built at all... that is another story. How politicians like Mario Cuomo convinced the people of Long Island to decommission the site at a cost of 180 million dollars and take it up the ass on their utility bills will always be mind boggling. Shoreham was a disaster from conception until the end of time. We will be paying for this until rapture. Lets not even talk about the amount of theft that went on with the contractors stealing materials from Shoreham when it was being taken apart.
Should’ve mentioned that TMI’s radiological release didn’t cause any death or injury.
Worked there as a chemistry technician during the testing phase 1986 thru 89. Crazy
Hey Darren! Brendan and I will be subbing in an over 60 BASEBALL league this summer in Maine. Hope you've had a good life...hi to "Geraldine" for us !! 😂 PS I dream about the plant frequently...it was stressful ... and fun at the same time. Good luck the rest of the way. steve s
Wading River Field and Tennis Club Member. I was like 10 years old then.
Wish that plant could be converted to a museum/filming location since it was never used.
14:30 oh maybe that was why, it was tested.
What's funny is there's a plant right on the other side of the Sound.
They should have opened up this plant for safe reliable power like all of Europe does
The big difference I see is that, as far as I know, none of the working nuclear power plants in Europe were built by a company that was found to have committed so much fraud related to its construction that it legally qualifies as racketeering.
Nuclear power plants built and run by responsible companies that know to not cut corners on this kind of facility are excellent sources of safe and reliable power. One built by a company that apparently felt the need to commit fraud related to the construction...I'd be very wary of seeing in operation. Both because some of the construction shortcuts might not be evident to inspections after completion without destructive testing - concrete composition and strength, for example, and because they might make similarly poor decisions in running the plant. (If you want an example of how bad decisions in plant operation can lead to problematic, look up the failure of the SL-1 US Army nuclear reactor, though be warned that what that reactor did to the 3 operators is horrific.)
Honestly, a country like the US with large stretches of low population land really shouldn't be putting nuclear reactors anywhere near substantial cities. It's an easy way to manage the risk of a hypothetical disaster - if a catastrophic failure actually releases radioactive fallout, the less people you have in the area, the easier the evacuation, which suggests that countries with large, empty spaces should be building their reactors in those large empty spaces. Not every country has that luxury, but Long Island is about 140% the size of Luxembourg and has about 1200% the population, and Luxembourg doesn't have any local nuclear power. It's not as densely populated as New York City itself, but it's still very much part of the metropolis. The US should have more nuclear power, certainly, but that doesn't make Long Island a reasonable location for a reactor.
(And yes, I'm aware that catastrophic failure in a reactor that's even remotely modern is extremely unlikely. There are many levels of protection built into the design of these plants to prevent them from happening, even if it does happen, modern containment systems should be able to keep fallout from escaping the plant. But risk management dictates that if you can make something less likely to cause major damage, you should...and buying up some farmland or forest in upstate New York State is a pretty cheap way to make it less likely you dump a cloud of radiation on New York's suburbs...hell, if it means you can sell off that land in the suburbs to a housing developer, it's probably actually *making* you money to make that decision.)
@@dr.dinapoli2583 No not like Chornobel, like all of the safe plants run by professional and competent
employees
Just passed there on my kayak today spooky place
I’m not positive but I’ve heard they shot movies there now
@@donovanharris7469 they dont its government land it would be cool tho
It represents how public opinion can be manipulated to doing what is not in their best business.
Wasteful event.
It would have been better if they actually put that damned thing into action. This way that facility will out-stand even bloody Chernobyl.
(someone will come around with the idea to make it a memorial site and then it will stay there for all eternity... I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so)
I agree, if anything decommission it early. I am sure it would not of had problems when brand new. Wish they never tested it, because then they probably could have turned it into a museum if it wasn't tested.
Incredible that those thieves never went to jail, I guess there truly is a different set of rules for the wealthy.
$6 billion just wasted
@@mikecohan6184 yeah because of stupid people living in dark ages. Plant should been audited and after that running.
First you had LILCO’s disaster with Gloria. 30 years later, you had LIPAs disaster with Sandy and nearly 40 years later you had another disaster with PSEG and Isaias. Some things never change. Oh Long Island and your power grid.
During massive storms you have massive outages not just on longisland
@@jamesmcnaughton5092 isaias wasn’t that massive of a storm and other areas impacted by sandy handled their power situation much better than LI did. I was also in Florida for 2 storms that were stronger than anything the northeast has seen since 1938 and they were able to handle the power situation better. I’m not sure if you live(d) on LI but every 10/20 years they change names/contractors and keep jacking the rates up saying things will get better, but they never do. Some places still have poles and lines from the 1950s and 60s. Biggest ripoff ever. It’s really criminal how the power grid is handled
what is the difference between LILCO and LIPA?
This is the issue with LIs grid. It all stems from Shoreham. The reason rates are high is because residents are still paying the $6B it cost to commission/decommission this plant. Also LI can’t produce enough energy for itself. Most of our power is bought from upstate, CT, or NJ (Part of the reason for Hurricane reliability issues). Shorehams only use now is as part of the distribution network. A lot of the issues wouldn’t have happened had this plant become operational
They could have brought in Comrade Dyatlov to run the reactor at shoreham?
The plant was just a cover,,it was a big pcp lab
3.6 Roentgen
Not Great, Not Terrible.
Like a chest x-ray
As long as there water flowing through the core.. pfft!
Memorable event.
The Power of Waves (C) 2018 Tammy Green
We waded into the movement
into the Sound of protest
roaring waves of people
the power of waves
the surge to save the sea
the charge to love the earth
to silence the radioactive core
before our Island bore
its impossible brand.
Paid for by fossil fuel burners. Seriously, check copies of the ads, they scammed people into attacking the plant for them.
The power plant is in wading River, not shoreham. I live near it.
Same thing. Even the high school is called “shoreham-wading river”. And either way it’s called the shoreham power plant, not the wading river power plant.
Why didn't they just listen to me?
Convert it to a non - nuclear plant with no radioactivity at all or turn it into a solar plant. Add solar panels and turn the whole cooling tower into a battery
Solar on a large scale just doesn't work---- yet
Should have built it on Plum Island. If it did "POP" it would have killed two birds with one stone.....*>)
"Trust the experts" didn't work then as it does today.
lol comparing soviets to civilised world.
And we're still paying for it today
Fools for not using the plant. This scare of Chernobyl. It was built. At least use it and maybe retire it early if afraid.