There are some homeless folks that are truly intelligent and Interesting. Some just prefer that nomad lifestyle for some reason while others just don’t get along with people or society and they fall through the cracks… I’ve transported many of these people that are like that… while some just talk such a good game. That have that manipulative charisma. This guy was very interesting though
That guy laying on the ground and explaining the situation, has some really good points and understanding. Totally helped change my mind on homelessness.
The dude talking to Fabian is a bit entitled. What happened to personal responsibility. Just because he doesn't break the law doesn't mean the taxpayers should have to support him or other able bodied people who don't want to work or are more comfortable living outside. There are many days it would be good for my mental health to not go to work, but I also know if I don't work, I don't eat. I'm responsible for me, not the government and not the taxpayers.
I dont think that dude has ever asked for any tax payer support or help from anyone. I think he holds his own as close to the ground as one can get and is confident about it
@@HollywoodConnection-jastSay what??? He's on public aid. He has a LINK or EBT card! Most of these people just want to sit on their ass and collect benefits. He talks about them providing land for people who like to be outside. Funded and paid by who???? These people need to get off their ass and get a job!!!!
daisy lost her kids cause she worried about homelessness,,, MOST OF THEM HOMELESS GET A SERIOUS STUPID IDIOT,,SSI,,GET IT,,DON'T PAY RENT CAUSE THEY CAN'T STOP DOING DRUGS,,,LOOK EM UP....
SHE GETS A CHECK HERSELF,,BUT CHILD SUPPORT TAKES MOST OF IT..BUT,,BUT,,SHE GETS A FACELIFT..NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP HER FACE,,MOM AND DAD CAN'T STAND HER,,THEY TOOK HER KIDS..
Someone has to bring them back to reality, starting with that girl always interfering when the police are around and force everyone to move from Venice Beach.
It looks to me like some of those "camps" are quite elaborate and have been there for a while. Here's an idea: I'm pretty sure the cops regularly patrol those areas. Why not prevent them from setting up in the first place? Why ignore the problem until you have a whole community of homeless?
That place was a total mess during COVID, the cops were limited in how they could remove these bums. Once the COVID scare subsided, the city moved in and hauled away TONS of trash and moved the bums out. Now, it's just straggler, transient bums that set up overnight, and get cleaned out in the morning, it's as simple as that.
It's like musical tents for the mentally insane on Venice Beach. Every Friday they have to move just like the bathrooms. They clean every Friday and they go away for a while. Then they come back and move back into the bathroom. Preferably the handicap one because they can really bring a lot of stuff in there 🤣
I though sleeping on the beach was illegal? Why not do this enforcement when you see it happen 24/7, not just on Friday morning for the benefit weekend tourists.
Prayers for All them , This interview with guy on ground was really good be good to hear more stories, And Daisy has her own TH-cam channel thanks for videos
@Crimson_Dawn12 Ongoing and new cases, something about her kids, her breaking restraining orders, terroristic threats, firearms violations, and being a public nuisance.
kudos to the authorities for finally doing something about this. homeless drug addicts are ruining American cities. they have places that will help them if they will cooperate and remain sober.
That is next level crazy! Those poor park rangers coddle them and are so polite i can’t believe the tolerance that’s given! And how is it they can’t feed themselves yet have pets.??? Animal cruelty
It seems like the common denominator of the homeless is they do not want to be burdened by responsibility of any kind. That would be nice but these are ALWAYS the results of that decision. Exceptions are the mentally challenged and the handi capped.
Video wouldn’t be proper without the resident mental escapee Daisy… she’s having a conversation with a guy 2 feet away with a mini bullhorn lol bruhhhh
It's complicated but authorities need to get moving on this. Housing alone won't stop it. Drug treatment, mental health facilities, etc. AND strict enforcement of no encampment laws. As long as people feel they can sleep in tents anywhere they like with no consequences it will continue. Freedom doesn't mean being free to disturb and disrupt the lives of others. I just cannot believe the verbal abuse and disrespect police and park rangers accept from these people.
It is not kind to allow addicts to support each other in encampments that facilitate drug abuse, stealing, vandalism, and unsanitary conditions for the entire neighborhood.There must be checks and balances for money that is suppose to relieve homelessness and drug addiction, it is being misappropriated.
18:38 he needs his own channel. I want to follow him around and his travels compared to these modern day influencers. HE has experienced this world on a whole different level.
Slab City is a harsh environment in the summer months, full of psychos, thieves and druggies, not a great source of food and water, and basically a wasteland. Yet, mentally deficient loners long to live there. These city bums would be eaten alive there.
So let me understand. The governor of California has decided to clean up the homeless encampments in public places in California. Why now and why did it take this long?
Few years ago, my girlfriend and I went to a VIP party that was held on the Santa Monica Pier, and we ended up getting hammered and we passed out on the beach. The next morning the Park Rangers came by and thought we were homeless and gave us a $250 voucher for a hotel room. Lol
Hey brother, I think I know and used to work with that sanitation worker guy you were talking with at the very end of the video. He used to work with me at LAX. If you can, please the next time you talk to him. Tell him AC said hello and wants to get back in touch with him. Is there another way I can contact you? Please do that for me. It’s very important to me. Thank you.
1ST AMENDMENT #1 & SO THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS THEY ARE TRYING TO HURT SOMEONE & SO , THEY WON'T BE ARRESTED ! THERE'S ALWAYS SOME ONE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM AWAY !
How many are working? I’m thinking quite a few. Hotels in the area run hundreds of dollars a night! When did that happen? so there’s really no option for those who want to rent a room for a few nights is there? I know there’s a hostel in the area, but I don’t think they accept locals. No choices.
The only problem about everyone wanting to live outside Chip is exactly what you say.They have accumulated so much crap that it looks like a crap tornado bomb exploded all over the beach and the streets.A filthy mess.Less is more when y'all have to carry off your stuff in your arms.Chip is a bright guy,very smart.Somewhere down the line this poor guy was broken.Prayers for the less fortunate and down trodden.Be thankful that we all have a stable environment and hopefully our situations will never end up like these people have ended up in.Never say That will never happen or be me, because just a small series of circumstance could put you right there in their shoes.
I'm French and I heard that in Paris they moved about 5 000 homeless (foreigners) out of Paris in the provinces before the Olympics. But in L.A. the problem is huge. About 75 000 homeless people in the city... There'll be a huge cleanup before 2028. But after the Olympics, they'll be back. I guess so... 🤔
I GET WHAT GUY IS SAYING MAKES SENSE TO PUT EM IN A OUTSIDE AREA, SO CLEANING CREW WONT HAVE TO COVER SO MUCH TO CLEAN, AND EVENTUALLY THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES
I saw in China where they made these buildings and maybe they were even garage spaces but it would be so cool and the roofs were gardens. It's so great for the environment for the bees in the pollinators, and feeds many people. If it can be down there why can't we do it here . We must remember we're just walking our way home. Be kind to one another show love
@@stillnotwoke I find your comment to be extremely rude, heartless, and most ignorant. In the future if you would like to leave me a comment please use your grown up skills. Meanwhile I'll continue to share my True heart and love on all people God's people.... PS if your mom hasn't taught you this yet ... if you don't have anything good to say you shouldn't say anything at all. And just in case there's any misunderstanding what that means, you should try to be kind to people 😉 otherwise it's okay not to share everything you think, ✌️
What do they do when it gets real chilly? The great outdoors is wonderful, but it's not a place where I could thrive and live long. We aren't birds and bugs. Is the shelter on Main closing the old Cecil Hotel?
"We're all here because we're not all there."
Brilliant
"King Osirus" ->Correct Answer! ->Anymore Questions?
Fabian your dedication towards documenting this eclectic community is unmatched
Eclectic digusting they need to open up the mental hospitals again
Wow, that man contributed a great conversation 👏.
There are some homeless folks that are truly intelligent and Interesting. Some just prefer that nomad lifestyle for some reason while others just don’t get along with people or society and they fall through the cracks… I’ve transported many of these people that are like that… while some just talk such a good game. That have that manipulative charisma. This guy was very interesting though
How do people drag all that crap along with them? Jeez.
That alone would drive me crazy
That's what I said 😂 I would have to downsize.
They should honestly arrest daisy. I’m so sick of her!
She’s was in jail a couple of weeks ago lmao
You mean "Twinklebitch"? 😆
lol Daisy is like that gum stuck to the concrete on the boardwalk. She’s not going anywhere 😂
I heard she's got to go see the Judge soon
@@nightfall22She's looking at some time
That guy laying on the ground and explaining the situation, has some really good points and understanding. Totally helped change my mind on homelessness.
the woman with the F’ed up voice. Needs to give her chords some rest. Does the opposite
😂😂😂😂
lol don’t talk about sea hag like that 😂
Annoying AF.! I'd get up promptly to get away from it...
NO,,,SHE NEEDS A RUBBER ROOM.
Meth voice
As soon as Daisy shows up, I mute the volume until she goes away...
My,w Polsce,kochamy Daisy❤🤗
SHE WEN'T TO GET ANOTHER FACE LIFT,,BUT SO WORRIED ABOUT HER SON AND TWO DAUGHTERS....
That's why she has a bullhorn
@@janul5105i love Daisy also. She has a good heart ❤️
Be nice.
I can imagine demons sound like that lady in the background 😂😂
Instead of interviews with crazy Daisy, you should interview that guy. He makes lots of sense. And he doesn't have a ton of mess all over the place.
he seems very intelligent and well spoken. If he could find employment that utilizes a brain, he could get off the streets.
I like them both
That cackling woman is killing me!😂😂😂😂
She’s hilarious. I can’t stop laughing… ole boy called her sea hag
Ugh what a horrible noise!
Sounds like someone stomping on a crow, or???? Sounds like if Gilbert Gottfried had a twin sister that was braindead. 😢
The dude talking to Fabian is a bit entitled. What happened to personal responsibility. Just because he doesn't break the law doesn't mean the taxpayers should have to support him or other able bodied people who don't want to work or are more comfortable living outside. There are many days it would be good for my mental health to not go to work, but I also know if I don't work, I don't eat. I'm responsible for me, not the government and not the taxpayers.
Exactly.
I dont think that dude has ever asked for any tax payer support or help from anyone. I think he holds his own as close to the ground as one can get and is confident about it
@HollywoodConnection-JAST Where does he get food. And he says in the video that he wants land for people to live outside. Who will give him the land.
@@HollywoodConnection-jastSay what??? He's on public aid. He has a LINK or EBT card! Most of these people just want to sit on their ass and collect benefits. He talks about them providing land for people who like to be outside. Funded and paid by who???? These people need to get off their ass and get a job!!!!
@@HollywoodConnection-jast who do you think is feeding him. It sure doesn't look like he is going hungry.
Please stop giving Daisy attention. This has become the Daisy adventure channel.
daisy lost her kids cause she worried about homelessness,,, MOST OF THEM HOMELESS GET A SERIOUS STUPID IDIOT,,SSI,,GET IT,,DON'T PAY RENT CAUSE THEY CAN'T STOP DOING DRUGS,,,LOOK EM UP....
SHE GETS A CHECK HERSELF,,BUT CHILD SUPPORT TAKES MOST OF IT..BUT,,BUT,,SHE GETS A FACELIFT..NOT THAT IT'S GOING TO HELP HER FACE,,MOM AND DAD CAN'T STAND HER,,THEY TOOK HER KIDS..
We luv the dais.
Fabian. This is the best interview I have seen of a homeless person. Great guy. I wish him peace.
Daisy is magnetically attracted to cameras. If there is one within two miles, she's there.
Camttention wh*re !
Someone has to bring them back to reality, starting with that girl always interfering when the police are around and force everyone to move from Venice Beach.
It looks to me like some of those "camps" are quite elaborate and have been there for a while. Here's an idea: I'm pretty sure the cops regularly patrol those areas. Why not prevent them from setting up in the first place? Why ignore the problem until you have a whole community of homeless?
That place was a total mess during COVID, the cops were limited in how they could remove these bums. Once the COVID scare subsided, the city moved in and hauled away TONS of trash and moved the bums out. Now, it's just straggler, transient bums that set up overnight, and get cleaned out in the morning, it's as simple as that.
It's like musical tents for the mentally insane on Venice Beach. Every Friday they have to move just like the bathrooms. They clean every Friday and they go away for a while. Then they come back and move back into the bathroom. Preferably the handicap one because they can really bring a lot of stuff in there 🤣
Maybe Daisy should bring them all to her home.
@@jimbennett2795 that's sad.
Seems like they feel entitled to be homeless wherever they want .
I spent years on the streets. Never entitled. I knew right from wrong. Some of these people are simply ill.
I though sleeping on the beach was illegal? Why not do this enforcement when you see it happen 24/7, not just on Friday morning for the benefit weekend tourists.
That poor dog. Can you imagine having to follow Daisy around all day listening to her talk into a megaphone 🤣
Dogs don't give a shit as long as they're fed, and Daisy should be the one on a leash... 😉
Dog: its ruff
@@dudewheresmycar908I don't have dogs, but I can only assume that the ground gets really hot in Venice Beach.
I guess it's a deaf dog... I mean, I hope so...
"King Osirus" (You) Answered Your Own Question: ->For Those Who Have Brains?
The guy laying there giving the interview that cannot go out of his way to get up he sounds like he's perfectly intelligent enough to get a job
The nut with the megaphone is just as crazy as the rest of them
Born and raised in so cal never been to Venice Beach now I may never go. Yikes this is sad 😢
Born in Los Angeles city and raised in Carson 😂… I’ve been to Venice when I worked ems in La city before I went to orange county. I don’t miss it
I used to live in Dogtown
Let's go then!
@@nightfall22 okay, yeah, La Puenta here 💜💜💜
@@short_stack727 right on sis! Cypress here 🤘🏾
Daisy is like nah that’s not my dog… I just happen to have this leash 🫠🤦🏽♂️💀
That poor dog 🐕 with Daisy😢.. please ,somebody rescue that poor dog!..quick!..before something terrible happens to that poor creature (the dog )😢😞
Think we are all tired of daisy….
Do you know they eat dog in Korea?
I hate seeing bikes get thrown away so many people could use them to get around on 🥺
And the people that actually bought those bikes would have preferred they weren’t stolen from them
I was thinking the same thing bikes are not cheap
It's crazy daisy again!
At lease she was helping today and being a nuisance like usual.
Courthouse bound
The guy laying down could be a great asset to the community there in being a liaison between the homeless and the agents of newsom
why don't you ask them why they won't work?
Why is it that my keys are always on the other side of the pocket??😮
Beach bums are in style.
Prayers for All them , This interview with guy on ground was really good be good to hear more stories, And Daisy has her own TH-cam channel thanks for videos
Daisy's a wacko
Summers only halfway done; personally I need it to be colder again
Why throw away a good bicycle?
Repo man repo.
Stolen
There’s wealthy, phony, Daisy doing her thing. Loves to be the center of attention.
She's going to court end of August for her nonsense
@Crimson_Dawn12 Ongoing and new cases, something about her kids, her breaking restraining orders, terroristic threats, firearms violations, and being a public nuisance.
@Crimson_Dawn12 Just a pest
Wow it's getting worse!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nah, it was total hell during the covid scare.
kudos to the authorities for finally doing something about this. homeless drug addicts are ruining American cities. they have places that will help them if they will cooperate and remain sober.
That is next level crazy! Those poor park rangers coddle them and are so polite i can’t believe the tolerance that’s given! And how is it they can’t feed themselves yet have pets.??? Animal cruelty
It seems like the common denominator of the homeless is they do not want to be burdened by responsibility of any kind. That would be nice but these are ALWAYS the results of that decision. Exceptions are the mentally challenged and the handi capped.
Bout time we cleaned this shit up….!!! An eyesore for taxpaying citizens. A danger and threat to our children.
Why do they even bother to post those clean-up notices if nobody pays any attention to them?
Is it some legal requirement?
Yes.
This guy has been re-setting since 1996…that’s a lot of years of re-setting. And he’s not close to re-setting.
As always yikes keeps on going with the homeless camping where ever they feel like it.
They should deport the homeless problem in the middle of the mohave desert.
Agreed they would get sober and would have to figure out how to take care of themselves
Video wouldn’t be proper without the resident mental escapee Daisy… she’s having a conversation with a guy 2 feet away with a mini bullhorn lol bruhhhh
Yeah, she's nuts, but whatcha gonna do?
@@stillnotwoke yeah. Exactly…. She’s just comic relief to these videos
I’m confused, if there’s housing services available, why is there so many homeless people?
@@ljbryan4070 but can’t they get an actual place not just a shelter?
SF is bussing the homeless all over California
@@Sblueboy808 rental units are in short supply in L.A.
It's complicated but authorities need to get moving on this. Housing alone won't stop it. Drug treatment, mental health facilities, etc. AND strict enforcement of no encampment laws. As long as people feel they can sleep in tents anywhere they like with no consequences it will continue. Freedom doesn't mean being free to disturb and disrupt the lives of others. I just cannot believe the verbal abuse and disrespect police and park rangers accept from these people.
Lack of security, theft,obnoxious , assault and rules to follow at the facility.
I was in a punk band and one of the names we rejected was I Am Daisy’s Bullhorn. We broke up during our first rehearsal.
How awful for the visitors to the beach.
Lazy Daisy taking care of business everyday and every way😂
City needs to hire that guy laying down. He'll solve the homeless issue
It is not kind to allow addicts to support each other in encampments that facilitate drug abuse, stealing, vandalism, and unsanitary conditions for the entire neighborhood.There must be checks and balances for money that is suppose to relieve homelessness and drug addiction, it is being misappropriated.
"There are ways to slolve things" . And there's also laziness with soneone else cleaning up after you're stupidly... 🤔
18:38 he needs his own channel. I want to follow him around and his travels compared to these modern day influencers. HE has experienced this world on a whole different level.
There is a place out in the desert where you live outside and be weird as you want
Slab City is a harsh environment in the summer months, full of psychos, thieves and druggies, not a great source of food and water, and basically a wasteland. Yet, mentally deficient loners long to live there. These city bums would be eaten alive there.
SLAB CITY IS TO HARD CORE FOR MOST PEOPLE & THE THERE'S NOT TO MANY PEOPLE TO GET MONEY FROM! THERE ARE TONS OF PEOPLE WITH MONEY NEAR THE BEACH
To 🥵 hot.
So let me understand. The governor of California has decided to clean up the homeless encampments in public places in California. Why now and why did it take this long?
Because elections are coming up
@ct1666 The democrats run to the center during election time. Then they'll be more left after they get elected
They can take action now because the recent Supreme Court ruling allows them to do so.
Why just every FRIDAY? Why not every day? If Serious.
Few years ago, my girlfriend and I went to a VIP party that was held on the Santa Monica Pier, and we ended up getting hammered and we passed out on the beach. The next morning the Park Rangers came by and thought we were homeless and gave us a $250 voucher for a hotel room. Lol
Oh hell they just want DRUGS!!!!!!!!!!!
Only 40%.....another 40% need mental help. Of course, some of the homeless with mental issues, also have that problem.
@@billkallas1762Wrong!!! Go through there at night, everyone of them are on drugs! All of them are on Fent or Meth.
Then, force them to get the help they need and stop giving them a choice @billkallas1762
@@boxerblvd3514 You can't... Ronald Reagan stopped that when he was Governor, and President.
@billkallas1762 Then, as long as we let them decide, this will never get solved
The bummer is an hour or two later the homeless and their trash is back where they left off.
Hey brother, I think I know and used to work with that sanitation worker guy you were talking with at the very end of the video. He used to work with me at LAX. If you can, please the next time you talk to him. Tell him AC said hello and wants to get back in touch with him. Is there another way I can contact you? Please do that for me. It’s very important to me. Thank you.
Yes, Chapo told me he used to work at LAX. Ill say hi to him for you. He is a great person.
@@SantaMonicaCloseup wow! That’s so cool brother. Thanks for replying. He’s a good friend. I worked 20 years with him.
Police allow people to scream out swearing and foul language in public? Unbelievable.
Freedom of speech, I guess... 😉
1ST AMENDMENT #1 & SO THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING UNLESS THEY ARE TRYING TO HURT SOMEONE & SO , THEY WON'T BE ARRESTED ! THERE'S ALWAYS SOME ONE TRYING TO TAKE YOUR FREEDOM AWAY !
Sounds like the Wicked Witch of the West, she'll get Daisy and her little dog too!
How many are working? I’m thinking quite a few. Hotels in the area run hundreds of dollars a night! When did that happen? so there’s really no option for those who want to rent a room for a few nights is there? I know there’s a hostel in the area, but I don’t think they accept locals. No choices.
Only in looney Cali. do the cops open the tent with "Good morning, Park Rangers". What's next? "Would you like a Latte & a pastry sir"?
So where you're from people like you think greeting other human beings with "good morning" is looney.
crazy duo !
This was Friday right? Saturday morning they were there again.
Smart people.
What percentage of irresponsible people have tattoos?
Looks like Daist is addicted to plastic surgery. Very creative in soliticing funds public for it
The only problem about everyone wanting to live outside Chip is exactly what you say.They have accumulated so much crap that it looks like a crap tornado bomb exploded all over the beach and the streets.A filthy mess.Less is more when y'all have to carry off your stuff in your arms.Chip is a bright guy,very smart.Somewhere down the line this poor guy was broken.Prayers for the less fortunate and down trodden.Be thankful that we all have a stable environment and hopefully our situations will never end up like these people have ended up in.Never say That will never happen or be me, because just a small series of circumstance could put you right there in their shoes.
He said that being around since 96 ,doing what is because migrants keep coming to America and found place to stay and work 😮😮😮
Dude that’s laying on the blue sleeping bag looks a mix of Chris farley and German in Venice
Are dogs allowed on Venice Beach?
I'm only a harvester not a hoarder. 🤦♂🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gotta be a lot of bikes in that landfill.
IT'S A SHAME TOO
I'm French and I heard that in Paris they moved about 5 000 homeless (foreigners) out of Paris in the provinces before the Olympics. But in L.A. the problem is huge. About 75 000 homeless people in the city... There'll be a huge cleanup before 2028. But after the Olympics, they'll be back. I guess so... 🤔
Daisy,never stop advocating for the homeless people! ❤
Why throw away the bike. Donate it
Suppose to store it for 90 days first
Repo.
Contaminated!
A complete exercise in futility. There must be a better way.
I’ve never seen so many city workers go so slow
Lots of sleeping all day
Those poor rangers, all the bling with no gun. Wouldn't catch me doing that job without a gat.
I GET WHAT GUY IS SAYING MAKES SENSE TO PUT EM IN A OUTSIDE AREA, SO CLEANING CREW WONT HAVE TO COVER SO MUCH TO CLEAN, AND EVENTUALLY THEY GOVERN THEMSELVES
It's cruel to have a dog being homeless .They don't get the proper care .
that is the cleanest homeless camp ive ever seen on utube
Move in?
"King Osirus" ->Great Observation and Reporting.
venice healer can be heard off in the distance take that loudspeaker away from her lol
Freedom of speech!
As for DAISY Z. STANK, VAMOS.
I thought Daisy everyone was talking about in the comments was the screaming lady 🤣🤣🤣 laughing my 🍑off rn, she won't shut up 😂
The girl with the dog is crazy and herd a street worker
I saw in China where they made these buildings and maybe they were even garage spaces but it would be so cool and the roofs were gardens. It's so great for the environment for the bees in the pollinators, and feeds many people. If it can be down there why can't we do it here . We must remember we're just walking our way home. Be kind to one another show love
Keep smokin' what you're smokin'...
@@stillnotwoke I find your comment to be extremely rude, heartless, and most ignorant. In the future if you would like to leave me a comment please use your grown up skills. Meanwhile I'll continue to share my True heart and love on all people God's people.... PS if your mom hasn't taught you this yet ...
if you don't have anything good to say you shouldn't say anything at all. And just in case there's any misunderstanding what that means, you should try to be kind to people 😉 otherwise it's okay not to share everything you think, ✌️
Molti dei commenti che leggo sono davvero cinici... ma i senza tetto sono esseri umani come noi e degni di rispetto come tutti gli altri!
trash dasay the joker face is back great
***** Be cool if they put usable bikes in the rack instead of junking them...
They know they can do what they like, so they do
Police very nice and kind
Are you for REALL?. Tet are polce not social workers. In my country they would of got rid of them in ten minutes. This is just wastig money.
GREAT JOB Daisy. Went to sleep With No PROBLEMs. Give The SOS Location of Tent Campers
I worry about the USED needles in the sand....
All cracked out.
We won’t go back?
Daisy the enabler of homeless rights
What do they do when it gets real chilly? The great outdoors is wonderful, but it's not a place where I could thrive and live long. We aren't birds and bugs. Is the shelter on Main closing the old Cecil Hotel?