I really enyoy your channel, you compare a lot of equipment that is very interesting, the tracks you use sound amazingly good on my main system, and your kid always put a smile on my face. A few months ago, I bought a Rega Elex R, after many other amplifiers that passed through my room, my system acquired another dimension, I have read that Elex R it makes a very good match with dali R2, unfortunately, the local supplier only brings the Rubicon 2 on request, I hope one day I have them in demo. Greetings.
for my taste, Rubicons are a little more detail, and Exсite is a little less ,you can hear it most of all on soundstage and in jazz. But the best is small! undoubtedly )
I think the Dynes have more in the harmonics and a slightly fuller sound but the DALIs impressed me here. Both very tight. The mid and upper range DALIs are very good. Spoiler: I have Dynaudio X-34s.
Both are musical with their own house sound. However whenever the Dali came on my listening would straight away pick up more the differences in body or texture of the different instruments showing the contrasts as if Dali was using a different live microphone to record the band in comparison to the microphone used by Dynaudio (this is only an anology to explain the differences)
Yes, both are excellent, Can't go wrong with any of the 2. Rubicons are much more resolving & layered at the expense of sounding a bit aggressive or a bit lean in the vocals. The dynaudios OTOH have a more even and realistic tonal balance.
@@Anand.Asrani sorry for the late response. i havent heard the arias in person. The X18 have very neutral and laidback midrange which comes at the cost of being too refined. From online demos, the Focal is more lively/fun but maybe a bit boxy in the mids. Dynaudios will be the more neutral/refined, the Focal will be the more Fun / engaging IMO.
Just a quick listen and while I liked both speakers, the differences to me were I thought the Dyns sounded a bit more ethereal while the Dalis sounded a bit more live sounding, closer to if you were at the venue or sounding more like being at the performance itself.
Due diffusori interessanti, di notevole valore musicale. La mia preferenza va al Dynaudio per maggiore naturalezza e completezza timbrica. Ma vorrei ancora rimarcare le qualità fuori dalla mischia dell'amplificatore. Davvero straordinario quell'Onkyo a9150! Lo considero assolutamente fuori dalla sua classe di prezzo. E il fatto che sia lui a guidare diffusori di tale pregio credo sia lì a dimostrarlo. Ascoltato anche in confronti con altre amplificazioni molto più blasonate e costose, mi ha sempre lasciato un tangibile senso di superiorità. Sento di fare un complimento a chi in queste audizioni, ha avuto la capacità e sensibilità di coglierne il valore musicale, senza preclusioni o pregiudizi. L'ha fatto con sicurezza e coraggio. Un saluto
Super interesting. Don’t know if it’s TH-cam but the Dynaudio sounds like they have a bit too much low end ? If not I like their sound signature more than the Dalis. The soundstage on the Dynaudio sounded amazing. And I think bonamassa even sounded more natural on them as well. What do you think? The Dali sound like they thin out or something.
Nikos Kamesas its possibly also your listening device or iem/headphone which may not be neutral. In real life the dyn have tight but robust bass. I notice this too when listening via iem. It can also be my room or recording device.
Nikos Kamesas regarding dali sound, i think they can sound thin but only when compared directly to the dynes since the dynes are dead neutral. But the dalis have better resolving power, more spatial and 3d qualities but yes at the expense of sounding a bit lean on vocals.
mykeldg thanks for all the replies man. Much appreciated. Too bad we won’t be able to buy them since the economies of the world will tank from the coronovirus. Lol. Geez
Both have different but excellent sound signatures! I think the Dynaudio rounds the edges a little bit, but without impacting the details, kinda like what the Chord Qutest does. In fact, I think the Dalis + chord Qutest would sound similar to the Dynaudios in this set-up.
Dynaudio more natural feel ,mids are opened nicely. Dali sounded bit change in the tonal quality when high note bending took place sound was bit compressed but soothing.Sound was bit tight not airy .. Dynaudio more clear in instrument dyanamics..
neil bang nice impressions, thanks. If there is one thing dali does better is the sense of rhythm and effortless details. That said, dynaudio sound more lifelike to me.
Tim Wynn currently using the dynaudio x18. I downgraded from rubicon. Have you heard the epicons? Do they have fuller / warmer vocals than the rubies? That is my only gripe with rubicons
@@paulmunoz54 actually, I might be going back to the Rubicons from the Dynaudios if I have any luck finding a good deal. I really miss the layering and jaw-dropping rhythm and microdynamics of the Dali
Ogni volta che lo ascolto resto stupito e profondamente impressionato. Parlo dell'Onkyo a-9150. Non è un amplificatore economico. È semplicemente un oggetto di valore assoluto, che al suo costo dovrebbe indurre imbarazzo a molti altri prodotti dal costo 5 volte superiore, sedicenti di alto livello. Si conferma ogni volta una gemma unica e purtroppo nascosta. Spero tu continui a tenerlo in considerazione Un saluto cordiale
It is obvious that Dynaudios have much wider soundstage and go much deeper with bass. In direct comparison Dali's sound constrained, with narrower soundstage, not as deep, but with greater warmth. My ideal would be a combination of Dynaudio's width and depth and Dali's warmth !
I think the Dali might be the better speaker overall but it's too bright on female vocals. Therefore I'd choose the Dynaudio. It's close enough in overall sound quality and easier on the ear to listen to.
yes the dalis are better in many ways. one good trait from dyn is the non fatiguing and very refined treble. however everything else i think The Dalis are better. I actually sold the Dynaudios and went back to the Dali after selling it a few months ago.
@@mykeldg Dynaudio Evoke is the new model (Excite is retired) which matches the Dali Epicon 2. Might be worth a comparison if you have time. Here I preferred Dali for drums/rock - the snap of the drums are clearer on the Dali, but Dynaudio for jazz and blues - the mid-range guitar chords are expressed more strongly in the Dynaudios.
@@connorduke4619 Dynaudio Evoke matches with Rubicon. Epicon matches with Contour or old Confidence C1 price-wise. That said, I already had Special 40 which is higher than Evoke and still prefered the Rubicons. But its still an excellent speaker and yes good for relaxing.
I listened for a long time The rubicon is very refined but lacks vivacity. The excite x18 is very lively but lacks a little refinement. I think the problem comes to the amp, it's lower range.
probably. but I find that its the opposite, the Dynes are refined and the Rubicons are vivid. what amp do you recommend? its also because of the recording (iphone xs) which can't really convey how it sounds in real life.
S40 is around 30-40% better than the x18. The s40 has a much fuller more forward midrange, smoother and more refined highs and bass tighter punchier and deeper. Upper mids more pronounced on the s40 though and you will find that x18 sound more laid back.
yes it is! you can find them in the $700-800 range these days used. in that price bracket, i can't think of anything else that performs as well as the x18.
what are you listening with? granted you are listening to a decent neutral headphone, its probably just the recording (iphone), room coloration and youtube compression. The only speaker i've had that are slightly nasal are the wharfedales. Both Dali and Dyn speakers are far from being nasal in real life, probably the oopposite as they are quite open and dead neutral.
I went from a pair of wharfedale diamond 230 (columns) to a pair of davis acoustics olympia one master (bookself). The improvements are considerable in all registers! These speakers "do not round the corners", nothing more nothing less, very natural and homogeneous, much more than the bw 707 S2. I found the tweeter of the b&w was doing a little too much "tss tss", not very natural for me. On the other hand i appreciate the dynaudio and the dali!
@@roms4277 I also dont like B&W house sound. its too tiring. I used to have diamond 225, one of the best value for money speakers. i'll probably even prefer that over entry level b&w. its a bit too warm on low volumes though
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I love the sound of dynaudio
The BEST, Rubicón 2, for me.
Such a sweetheart child! My heart melted instantly :)
I really enyoy your channel, you compare a lot of equipment that is very interesting, the tracks you use sound amazingly good on my main system, and your kid always put a smile on my face. A few months ago, I bought a Rega Elex R, after many other amplifiers that passed through my room, my system acquired another dimension, I have read that Elex R it makes a very good match with dali R2, unfortunately, the local supplier only brings the Rubicon 2 on request, I hope one day I have them in demo. Greetings.
NICE SOUND ON X18 . I LOVE DYNAUDIO SOUNDS. I love my Dynaudio Exite 12 Sounds beautiful..Very small but very dynamic sounds.
Слушал в наушниках. У Х18 бас более собранный, отчетливый. Да и в целом звук лучше.
For the price of X18 its performance is amazing. I am surprised.
It sounds impressive, indeed! Is it a 'dark horse' in the race?
for my taste, Rubicons are a little more detail, and Exсite is a little less ,you can hear it most of all on soundstage and in jazz. But the best is small! undoubtedly )
I think the Dynes have more in the harmonics and a slightly fuller sound but the DALIs impressed me here. Both very tight. The mid and upper range DALIs are very good. Spoiler: I have Dynaudio X-34s.
Both are musical with their own house sound. However whenever the Dali came on my listening would straight away pick up more the differences in body or texture of the different instruments showing the contrasts as if Dali was using a different live microphone to record the band in comparison to the microphone used by Dynaudio (this is only an anology to explain the differences)
Both sound fantastic. Dynaudio are a bit more live. Wondering what amplification you are using?
Both are nice. I like the body and weight of the Dynaudio.
Yes, both are excellent, Can't go wrong with any of the 2. Rubicons are much more resolving & layered at the expense of sounding a bit aggressive or a bit lean in the vocals. The dynaudios OTOH have a more even and realistic tonal balance.
@@mykeldg hi ,there definitely enjoy your videos ,can you advise between Focal Aria 906 & Dynaudio excite 18 which is a better
Standmount
@@Anand.Asrani sorry for the late response. i havent heard the arias in person. The X18 have very neutral and laidback midrange which comes at the cost of being too refined. From online demos, the Focal is more lively/fun but maybe a bit boxy in the mids. Dynaudios will be the more neutral/refined, the Focal will be the more Fun / engaging IMO.
@@mykeldg thanks a lot , appreciate it
Just a quick listen and while I liked both speakers, the differences to me were I thought the Dyns sounded a bit more ethereal while the Dalis sounded a bit more live sounding, closer to if you were at the venue or sounding more like being at the performance itself.
Due diffusori interessanti, di notevole valore musicale. La mia preferenza va al Dynaudio per maggiore naturalezza e completezza timbrica. Ma vorrei ancora rimarcare le qualità fuori dalla mischia dell'amplificatore. Davvero straordinario quell'Onkyo a9150! Lo considero assolutamente fuori dalla sua classe di prezzo. E il fatto che sia lui a guidare diffusori di tale pregio credo sia lì a dimostrarlo. Ascoltato anche in confronti con altre amplificazioni molto più blasonate e costose, mi ha sempre lasciato un tangibile senso di superiorità. Sento di fare un complimento a chi in queste audizioni, ha avuto la capacità e sensibilità di coglierne il valore musicale, senza preclusioni o pregiudizi. L'ha fatto con sicurezza e coraggio. Un saluto
Super interesting. Don’t know if it’s TH-cam but the Dynaudio sounds like they have a bit too much low end ? If not I like their sound signature more than the Dalis. The soundstage on the Dynaudio sounded amazing. And I think bonamassa even sounded more natural on them as well. What do you think?
The Dali sound like they thin out or something.
Nikos Kamesas its possibly also your listening device or iem/headphone which may not be neutral. In real life the dyn have tight but robust bass. I notice this too when listening via iem. It can also be my room or recording device.
Nikos Kamesas regarding dali sound, i think they can sound thin but only when compared directly to the dynes since the dynes are dead neutral. But the dalis have better resolving power, more spatial and 3d qualities but yes at the expense of sounding a bit lean on vocals.
mykeldg thanks for all the replies man. Much appreciated. Too bad we won’t be able to buy them since the economies of the world will tank from the coronovirus. Lol. Geez
@@Nightjar726 its really is quite sad. Its the reason why I sold the Dali Rubicons. Maybe in 3 months time things will improve.
better bass, more weight to it and deeper,wider sound and clearer midrange, the winner is Dynaudio
I agree, but only for this video. Dali has better tone balance as for me
Both have different but excellent sound signatures!
I think the Dynaudio rounds the edges a little bit, but without impacting the details, kinda like what the Chord Qutest does.
In fact, I think the Dalis + chord Qutest would sound similar to the Dynaudios in this set-up.
Dali for Rock
Dynaudio for the rest
Both are nice
Soundstage X18 0:00
Soundstage Rubicon 1:09
Rock X18 02:35
Rock Rubicon 03:36
Jazz X18 04:33
Jazz Rubicon 05:30
Blues X18 06:57
Blues Rubicon 08:32
Hey here is a jazz tune you may like - Alfa Mist / keep on . It’s a long but very cool , enjoy
@@PAULPM15S1DYNXCITE thanks. great track!
Dynaydio звучит лучше. Больше красок. Хотя может это и не правильно. Но вот мы понимаем что бы наслаждаться музыкой а не правильностью.
The girl is so cute by here robot dance/david byrne kinde of style moves....enjoy:)
Dynaudio more natural feel ,mids are opened nicely. Dali sounded bit change in the tonal quality when high note bending took place sound was bit compressed but soothing.Sound was bit tight not airy .. Dynaudio more clear in instrument dyanamics..
neil bang nice impressions, thanks. If there is one thing dali does better is the sense of rhythm and effortless details. That said, dynaudio sound more lifelike to me.
Correct. Dynaudio bass and midrange is superb
Listening on my Rubicon 2. I love them.
I kinda miss the rubicons to be honest
@@mykeldg what speakers are you using? Maybe one day i will upgrade to Epicon.
Tim Wynn currently using the dynaudio x18. I downgraded from rubicon. Have you heard the epicons? Do they have fuller / warmer vocals than the rubies? That is my only gripe with rubicons
mykeldg it has taken over 100 hrs to break my rubies in. I know what your saying about the vocals- but one day they just changed .
@@paulmunoz54 actually, I might be going back to the Rubicons from the Dynaudios if I have any luck finding a good deal. I really miss the layering and jaw-dropping rhythm and microdynamics of the Dali
Ogni volta che lo ascolto resto stupito e profondamente impressionato. Parlo dell'Onkyo a-9150. Non è un amplificatore economico. È semplicemente un oggetto di valore assoluto, che al suo costo dovrebbe indurre imbarazzo a molti altri prodotti dal costo 5 volte superiore, sedicenti di alto livello. Si conferma ogni volta una gemma unica e purtroppo nascosta. Spero tu continui a tenerlo in considerazione Un saluto cordiale
Dyn audio sounds more solid, it's more immersive because of the body of the sound. And it's more pleasing to my ear. Bass is also tight and beautiful
I like the Rubicon.
It is obvious that Dynaudios have much wider soundstage and go much deeper with bass. In direct comparison Dali's sound constrained, with narrower soundstage, not as deep, but with greater warmth. My ideal would be a combination of Dynaudio's width and depth and Dali's warmth !
your kid is very cool....i agree with her the atc's sound better in my opinion
I think the Dali might be the better speaker overall but it's too bright on female vocals. Therefore I'd choose the Dynaudio. It's close enough in overall sound quality and easier on the ear to listen to.
yes the dalis are better in many ways. one good trait from dyn is the non fatiguing and very refined treble. however everything else i think The Dalis are better. I actually sold the Dynaudios and went back to the Dali after selling it a few months ago.
@@mykeldg Dynaudio Evoke is the new model (Excite is retired) which matches the Dali Epicon 2. Might be worth a comparison if you have time. Here I preferred Dali for drums/rock - the snap of the drums are clearer on the Dali, but Dynaudio for jazz and blues - the mid-range guitar chords are expressed more strongly in the Dynaudios.
@@connorduke4619 Dynaudio Evoke matches with Rubicon. Epicon matches with Contour or old Confidence C1 price-wise. That said, I already had Special 40 which is higher than Evoke and still prefered the Rubicons. But its still an excellent speaker and yes good for relaxing.
I listened for a long time
The rubicon is very refined but lacks vivacity.
The excite x18 is very lively but lacks a little refinement.
I think the problem comes to the amp, it's lower range.
probably. but I find that its the opposite, the Dynes are refined and the Rubicons are vivid. what amp do you recommend? its also because of the recording (iphone xs) which can't really convey how it sounds in real life.
I compared with my amp sony ta-4650 (vfet) and my speakers davis acoustics olympia one master.
The speakers davis olympia one master are amazing!!!
Find occasion the amp sony ta-8650 or yamaha B2. These amps are incredible!!!
These amps works like the best triode amp with the dynamic like the best transistors amps!
Hi ! Could you compare Rubicon 2 and Dynaudio special 40 ? Thanks
Hi, I hope to have the 40s in the near/far future. According to a friend, the 40s are similar to the X18 but maybe 30% better.
Dynaudio seems less neutral, but warmer and dynamic..
Dali is more interesting thanks for sharing!!!
How far away are the x18’s from your special 40?
S40 is around 30-40% better than the x18. The s40 has a much fuller more forward midrange, smoother and more refined highs and bass tighter punchier and deeper. Upper mids more pronounced on the s40 though and you will find that x18 sound more laid back.
My vote is for Dynaudio Excite X18, it's have more real and live feeling. Dali is refined but sacrificing the aliveness.
Dynaudio 👍👍👍😉
I have the X-44's and have never been very impressed by the mids and highs. Perhaps it's because of driving them with an AVR.
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I own the dynaudio for Second hand Price its a bargain for the Price.
yes it is! you can find them in the $700-800 range these days used. in that price bracket, i can't think of anything else that performs as well as the x18.
@@mykeldg so, is that a good match with onkyo? is it harsh or warm with onkyo?
Dali seems to be more refined and detailed, alittle to much bottom end on the Dynaudio
dali is normal sound Dyn same nice litle more strong and smooth voice
Too much warmness on dynaudio, i still go for Dali.
у дали хороши нижние линейки, а с динаудио им тягаться тяжело
Естессно Dali лучше,хотя хуже способа записи и ролика для сравнения трудно найти чем это.Описывать чем и почему лучше Dali слишком долго и много.
Дали сцена гуд
dali focus too much on detail therefore lacks the full body sound of dynaudio. the x18 impressed me more
DYNAUDIOの方が実在感が有ると感じます。
Sony ta-5650 vfet
Yamaha B2
Sansui au-999
Dynaudio sounds better here
Dynaudio...
The two speakers as not very good of the vocal jazz song. Voices lack consistency, there is a little nasal side
what are you listening with? granted you are listening to a decent neutral headphone, its probably just the recording (iphone), room coloration and youtube compression. The only speaker i've had that are slightly nasal are the wharfedales. Both Dali and Dyn speakers are far from being nasal in real life, probably the oopposite as they are quite open and dead neutral.
I listened with my headphones sennheiser hd660s and my amp sony ta-4650 (1973 full restaured)
You're right, maybe it must come from the sound of the video or your room
I went from a pair of wharfedale diamond 230 (columns) to a pair of davis acoustics olympia one master (bookself). The improvements are considerable in all registers!
These speakers "do not round the corners", nothing more nothing less, very natural and homogeneous, much more than the bw 707 S2.
I found the tweeter of the b&w was doing a little too much "tss tss", not very natural for me.
On the other hand i appreciate the dynaudio and the dali!
@@roms4277 I also dont like B&W house sound. its too tiring. I used to have diamond 225, one of the best value for money speakers. i'll probably even prefer that over entry level b&w. its a bit too warm on low volumes though
Guitar too close to speakers. Will resonate