even tho this looks incredibly hard, to be fair all the whales struggled with bird on release bc they didn’t know how the boss work. if i’m not mistaken, nag used goddess liz, the one, margret (i forgot the 4th unit) the first time he tried bird maybe we need to learn how the boss works for it to be doable, but i doubt it would be easier considering how annoying this boss looks with the free and revive on floor 2.
Yeah. If it's took this long to beat the wolf on floor 1. Farming it would be pain. They probably will release a unit that will massively increase all stats for this demonic beast
So maybe deer like passiv, if he gets to 20~25% he gets the buff, dmg cap is probably again 30%, but hitting both to under 30% and kill them both with an aoe that does dmg cap..... Uffff
Netmarble: Give us your concerns and thoughts about the game. We want to hear from you! Community: The boss battles are too hard! Netmarble: Okay, we'll make another boss, and this time EVEN HARDER than the DEER! I can't beat the deer yet! And now they add this? Looks like I'm never getting any Holy Relics for anybody.
@@xtacticalnukex4 Bird I can clear with ease. But once I got to floor 1 of the Deer, my team got wiped in the second phase. Whereas if I were doing the Bird, I would be just fine with enough card RNG.
Problem is that deer isn't "hard" but the rng factor with the colour roulette made it bad So they didn't make a gimmick like that because everyone complaint, and just made it hard on its own
Deer isn't hard, it's just RNG heavy due to color wheel. Without that mechanic, deer would be brain-dead easy. (cleared floor 3 at 1.5mil box CC if you want "credentials")
@@lupus_aeterna7793 snake lady required she makes the first stage easy and the second stage well that’s a different story it have a one hit kill move that if you don’t get freezer every 2 turns you’ll lose and for some reason I never get cards for matrona in the stupid colors mini game the deer have when I need it honestly the deer is just plain unfun and stupid so I feel your pain.
The only issue I have with the boss is (surprise) the gimmick of having to kill both at once (I'm sure this is why Frayer has death but it doesn't seem to be enough) and the random freeze gimmick. At least one of those two things should be removed if they really are serious about removing RNG and specific character use from the demonic beasts. Other than that it just looks like you need two DPS characters; one of which should have at least one high DPS AOE skill, and two support/control characters that can provide cleansing and healing. It's fine that it takes a while as long as they also take their time releasing relics for this stage.
@@nichtdave Yea I agree, it's the only place left for OG players. And this giant health pool + slow chip damage combo is probably gonna give more variety for what you can run. I just think it's gonna need some balance between DPS/Healing/Control
I think Skadi might be useful with her passive, we might not cleanse the debuffs, but we can become tankier with them.+ we'll have a buff cancel effect just for them
18:19 i think they will prnig a charecter that if u use 3 cards or somthing u willl be immune, like Jormungandr but u will get immunity and damage reduction
Okay, you definetly need a specific support for this, they will probably release in a few weeks. But I think, until then, you need high damage without relying on buffs and stances, because of the freeze. So I would assume. Freyr, Skadi, Demon Rimuru and Green Brunhilde. Freyr is obvious. Skadi, because you get a big damage boost and some serious tankyness ouf of this ton of debuffs. Rimuru for removing the buffs (not necessary, I assume, but nice to have) and for decent damage without relying on buffs. Brunhilde, because she can avoid too many debuffs and may deal some good damage. But we definetly need a char that keeps the debuffs at bay. Freezing, seal healing, attack reduction. You would need so many upgrades, to keep up with that. I think, we get a unit that grants Immunity on their skills and passively disables Freeze. Maybe even Freya, but probably not. But man, they look so epic! When I first saw Hraesvelgr, I wanted him to be a playable unit, but seeing these, I really, REALLY want them to be a character. Will never happen, but the explosion sphere, that turns into constellations looks way too good to be locked behind some serious grind. It's just too cool to not be a skill on a unit. Maybe, one day, they make the Demonic Beasts as humanoid forms. I would love that!
Tier List when? and remember when the devs said that the third demonic beast is not based on RNG and doesn’t need specific character as deer since they want us to have access to relic more easy? (I remember this since they talked about this in livestream)This doesn’t age well i guess.
@@buttermanaws4693 instant freeze on someone entering phase 3, gray revive if you fail to kill phase 3 in 2 turns, mind you 1 unit gets frozen meaning it's pretty much 1 turn. Also, bosses where you have to kill them at the same while fun, are bs
Maybe an unknown race team would be ideal? Shuna(Stance removal, heal, ult removal, dmg taken by unknown race decreased, rimuru support) Rimuru(dps, buff removal) Freyr(ignite cancel and dps) Gowther(strictly for rank up) Only thing is, this team lacks a tank unless you were to use fes gowther who kinda counts as one with his insane hp stats
i think this Boss is simple so there can get a lot of tactics. its like the bird there is the blue ban and valenti Team that coud maybe work here too. i think its just time until we find simple tactics
So this means archangels team may be useful? Elizabeth light Margaret Red Sariel Blue/Red tarmiel ? Or maybe change red sariel for Diane? Or green one? Idk
Hi. Any replacements for Frayer? I think I’m going to skip the banner so I wanted to know who I should prepare for when this boss battle comes to global.
I beat floor 3 of bird for the first time as I watched nag summon for the sun god lol. I have the units for deer but haven't built skadi or bdsm waifu past 80 6 star so I haven't even attempted it
Headache after headache they already shaft me on banner and they're killing me on the final phase all the time because I'm not able to kill them both at the same time
High attack and HP (probably lifesteal too) Damage reduction buff and defense attributes Revive Removes practically all orbs Freeze, reduce attack stats and infect Posture And if you kill just one in the last phase, the other gets full health bro... there's something wrong lmao
Everyone batching about the boss being too hard doesn't realize that they're watching a guy who went in blind. It's like having a football player play rugby. They're athletic and got a rough idea but for the most part have no clue wtf they're doing. Strats are gonna come out soon and this comment section is going to get ratio'd
I’ve been watching nags content for a while and one thing has been consistent…. The majority of his fan base share 1 brain cell. I mean idk if he just has a lot of children watch him or they are truly just dumb as fuck
the bosses looks sick I like that they removed the the rng colour bullshit and I like that they're making super hard pve content that's 100% chef kiss but wtf is this they didn't have to give the boss revive everything was fine it looks like they just love giving these bosses full heals and revives
These battles are way to long & difficult for no reason. Let me guess now we have to wait for a specific character to even make this battle playable. Do the Devs even listen to our feedback? I'm done with this game!
still asking for the full ur crit defense red lostvayne but i think it would be funny if a full stance team with green estarosa was a good team for this
From what I can see beating this when it releases on global will be a pain..at least even with how annoying deer was I could clear it first week and never bothered trying until jormungand was released.
my man has 6/6 every unit and cant even clear stage 3, how the fuck are any f2p players gonna be able to clear phase 1? is my 1/6 meli even gonna cut it?
even tho this looks incredibly hard, to be fair all the whales struggled with bird on release bc they didn’t know how the boss work. if i’m not mistaken, nag used goddess liz, the one, margret (i forgot the 4th unit) the first time he tried bird
maybe we need to learn how the boss works for it to be doable, but i doubt it would be easier considering how annoying this boss looks with the free and revive on floor 2.
Yeah. If it's took this long to beat the wolf on floor 1. Farming it would be pain. They probably will release a unit that will massively increase all stats for this demonic beast
@@MrNaz04 they say they wouldnt release a specific unit that broken but who knows, its nemarble after all
@@veovideos9832 ohh
If you watch closely, the boss doesnt take 2 turns to get the revive. The boss gets the gray buff when its like 20-30% health.
So maybe deer like passiv, if he gets to 20~25% he gets the buff, dmg cap is probably again 30%, but hitting both to under 30% and kill them both with an aoe that does dmg cap..... Uffff
At this point I think Ellatte ult immunity is straight up mandatory
Netmarble: Give us your concerns and thoughts about the game. We want to hear from you!
Community: The boss battles are too hard!
Netmarble: Okay, we'll make another boss, and this time EVEN HARDER than the DEER!
I can't beat the deer yet! And now they add this? Looks like I'm never getting any Holy Relics for anybody.
@@xtacticalnukex4 Bird I can clear with ease. But once I got to floor 1 of the Deer, my team got wiped in the second phase. Whereas if I were doing the Bird, I would be just fine with enough card RNG.
Problem is that deer isn't "hard" but the rng factor with the colour roulette made it bad
So they didn't make a gimmick like that because everyone complaint, and just made it hard on its own
Deer isn't hard, it's just RNG heavy due to color wheel. Without that mechanic, deer would be brain-dead easy. (cleared floor 3 at 1.5mil box CC if you want "credentials")
It’s endgame content. It’s ok if it’s super hard because it gives you something to work towards
@@lupus_aeterna7793 snake lady required she makes the first stage easy and the second stage well that’s a different story it have a one hit kill move that if you don’t get freezer every 2 turns you’ll lose and for some reason I never get cards for matrona in the stupid colors mini game the deer have when I need it honestly the deer is just plain unfun and stupid so I feel your pain.
The only issue I have with the boss is (surprise) the gimmick of having to kill both at once (I'm sure this is why Frayer has death but it doesn't seem to be enough) and the random freeze gimmick. At least one of those two things should be removed if they really are serious about removing RNG and specific character use from the demonic beasts. Other than that it just looks like you need two DPS characters; one of which should have at least one high DPS AOE skill, and two support/control characters that can provide cleansing and healing. It's fine that it takes a while as long as they also take their time releasing relics for this stage.
the killing both at once is only on floor 1 on floor 2 and 3 you can kill one first and then the other
@@DannyPhantasimo Then that's more fair. It's just about filling the right team slots then.
They were acting like it was gonna be easy during the livestream 🤣🤣
I gotta say these beast battles, despite some weird quirks are pretty awesome.
yeah they add challenge to this game
@@nichtdave Yea I agree, it's the only place left for OG players. And this giant health pool + slow chip damage combo is probably gonna give more variety for what you can run. I just think it's gonna need some balance between DPS/Healing/Control
Just when they give us the full team… when they are released they are impossible.
@@javier.f1324 thats the fun part, struggling without the right units and thinking of new team comps
@@nichtdave but it is literally impossible lmao, just like the 3rd phase of the bird when it was released.
I think Skadi might be useful with her passive, we might not cleanse the debuffs, but we can become tankier with them.+ we'll have a buff cancel effect just for them
"not gonna give you a gimic character, but you're gonna hate you life" -Net Marble Probably
I can't even beat the bird and there already a new demonic beast😂😭
lmao right
I gave up on the bird long ago.
Same. I only have free reliques, I can't just kill it on the third round LMAOOOOO
It was just rng that made me beat all floors or else i just died at floor 3
Something to note is that they both have 10% damage reduction and damage increase because of their typing.
18:19 i think they will prnig a charecter that if u use 3 cards or somthing u willl be immune, like Jormungandr but u will get immunity and damage reduction
11:14 for a moment i thought u are on the last floor and the last stage and when u said are u ready for floor 2 it hit me, all that for floor 1
Okay, you definetly need a specific support for this, they will probably release in a few weeks. But I think, until then, you need high damage without relying on buffs and stances, because of the freeze. So I would assume. Freyr, Skadi, Demon Rimuru and Green Brunhilde. Freyr is obvious. Skadi, because you get a big damage boost and some serious tankyness ouf of this ton of debuffs. Rimuru for removing the buffs (not necessary, I assume, but nice to have) and for decent damage without relying on buffs. Brunhilde, because she can avoid too many debuffs and may deal some good damage. But we definetly need a char that keeps the debuffs at bay. Freezing, seal healing, attack reduction. You would need so many upgrades, to keep up with that. I think, we get a unit that grants Immunity on their skills and passively disables Freeze. Maybe even Freya, but probably not.
But man, they look so epic! When I first saw Hraesvelgr, I wanted him to be a playable unit, but seeing these, I really, REALLY want them to be a character. Will never happen, but the explosion sphere, that turns into constellations looks way too good to be locked behind some serious grind. It's just too cool to not be a skill on a unit. Maybe, one day, they make the Demonic Beasts as humanoid forms. I would love that!
Tier List when? and remember when the devs said that the third demonic beast is not based on RNG and doesn’t need specific character as deer since they want us to have access to relic more easy? (I remember this since they talked about this in livestream)This doesn’t age well i guess.
Wait what is the main thing for the boss that makes it hard?
@@buttermanaws4693 everything
@@buttermanaws4693 instant freeze on someone entering phase 3, gray revive if you fail to kill phase 3 in 2 turns, mind you 1 unit gets frozen meaning it's pretty much 1 turn. Also, bosses where you have to kill them at the same while fun, are bs
@@buttermanaws4693 the color wheel mainly and the final phase usually but the whole thing is shitty
Has anyone else playing JP been able to log in? Haven’t been able to since the update dropped, it just freezes at the title screen.
Maybe an unknown race team would be ideal?
Shuna(Stance removal, heal, ult removal, dmg taken by unknown race decreased, rimuru support)
Rimuru(dps, buff removal)
Freyr(ignite cancel and dps)
Gowther(strictly for rank up)
Only thing is, this team lacks a tank unless you were to use fes gowther who kinda counts as one with his insane hp stats
You really need someone the removes debuffs and has stance cancel as well, of course i could go deeper in this but im to lazy
i think this Boss is simple so there can get a lot of tactics. its like the bird there is the blue ban and valenti Team that coud maybe work here too. i think its just time until we find simple tactics
Gilgamesh looks cool, the boss... guess I'll wait for megalda/bdsm waifu version for this boss
HI TWITCH 😀❤️❤️ love you guys over there
I've checked other gameplays and King is very good when you put it on Team Patience, in other words, using him with Queen Diane and/or Green Valenti
I finally recently got megellda to beat the bird. Have never gone pass stage 1 of deer, but this I'm even going to look at
You could try to use green Goddess Liz, her ult fills ult gauge by 2 and her heal cleanses on lvl 2. So you can cleanse and rush ult for traitor meli
He seal heal on floor 2
@@ahmadrifai-nb1hr does he seal healing cards or healing in general? If he seals healing cards the cleanse should still work
@@marinbrands374 idk, but the debuff logo just like the bird on floor 1 phase 4
Nice to see they add Skoll und Hati :D Moon and Sun Hunter
w the amount of debuff/freeze maybe marg's buff might b useful for cleanse n the extra stats
I think freyr is not for this demonic beast battle, i think is freya the new ragnarok pg for this demonic beast battle
WHAT? ALREADY? oh god I can’t even bet bird every time
I cannot bet any of them so I am just gonna pretend relics don't exist and hope they give out free ones
@@sten2184 what team do you use
@@sten2184 what characters u have mate
Me when I can barely beat floor 3 bird
Lol well when u start getting to deer then rip
Looks like another demonic beast battle I won't be attempting till they realse a character ment for the battle
king was attack lowered btw
try green Arthur with Ellate, when you raised Ellate's buff it was very tanky, green Arthur will help her survive until she gets ult
This new demonic beast battle need a specialized unit like the one for bird, she give buff and cleanses
or try goddess team, with Ellate, Margareth, Liz, and red sariel, as he has a lot of resistance
Netmarble forcing players to beat the hardest boss in the game just so they can get a holy relic that boosts stats by 0.1%
would wedding brunhild maybe be ok for this? since they have so much defense
I am just now able to clear floor 1 bird but now i look at this and i.... i dont know any more.
This is why it's good to be behind on updates boys
So this means archangels team may be useful?
Elizabeth light
Margaret
Red Sariel
Blue/Red tarmiel
?
Or maybe change red sariel for Diane? Or green one?
Idk
You must have units 6/6 or 5/6 to be able to do the 3 floors...
he has that lol... he is a whale..
This remind me to the bird on the first days, the drop brunilda later matrona and the last one was Megelda xd
Big whale strugling is like f2p death
Maybe drole holy relic will make this fight go smoother when you get it?
if he ignites you and you were unlucky enough to not get frey, would skadi be a good option then?
we talked about it but he never tried it, then talked about andy gonna find a team
Green Melascula maybe 🤔
@@yatochan1914 lol someone said melascula and he said he gonna time out that guy then laughed
@@titok0018 ...why does he do this?
@@yatochan1914 true she not only prevents ignites but also buffs the team, her cards wont really help much thou
what do you know! rimuru the also best on this battle which I skipp tensura collab banner
Hi. Any replacements for Frayer? I think I’m going to skip the banner so I wanted to know who I should prepare for when this boss battle comes to global.
Well he makes you immune to ignites, so you need to weigh in.
Jesus Christ and I thought the deer was unfun but this takes it to a new level.
was finally able to beat bird and deer with ease and now they add this….
I beat floor 3 of bird for the first time as I watched nag summon for the sun god lol. I have the units for deer but haven't built skadi or bdsm waifu past 80 6 star so I haven't even attempted it
@@aidanwatkins8387 You can beat Deer with lvl80's because you have Jormungandr, do the mechanics and her passive will carry you.
Headache after headache they already shaft me on banner and they're killing me on the final phase all the time because I'm not able to kill them both at the same time
I was thinking about giving it a try until I saw grey revive, I’ll pass until the specific unit come out
High attack and HP (probably lifesteal too)
Damage reduction buff and defense attributes
Revive
Removes practically all orbs
Freeze, reduce attack stats and infect
Posture
And if you kill just one in the last phase, the other gets full health
bro... there's something wrong lmao
I mean its a beast that even strikes down the biggest whales
Behold the power of Emilia Freeze
Only this time the boss can freeze u
Everyone batching about the boss being too hard doesn't realize that they're watching a guy who went in blind. It's like having a football player play rugby. They're athletic and got a rough idea but for the most part have no clue wtf they're doing. Strats are gonna come out soon and this comment section is going to get ratio'd
I’ve been watching nags content for a while and one thing has been consistent…. The majority of his fan base share 1 brain cell. I mean idk if he just has a lot of children watch him or they are truly just dumb as fuck
the bosses looks sick I like that they removed the the rng colour bullshit and I like that they're making super hard pve content that's 100% chef kiss but wtf is this they didn't have to give the boss revive everything was fine it looks like they just love giving these bosses full heals and revives
Yooo that red brunhild ignore defense about to go crazyy🤣🤣
why not grn gowther?
I think a good team for this might be freyr, Matrona, TMeli and Liz
Debuff cancel?
Buff cancel with Matrona and stance cancel with freyr
i feel like milim might work her ult could kill then both maybe
These battles are way to long & difficult for no reason. Let me guess now we have to wait for a specific character to even make this battle playable. Do the Devs even listen to our feedback? I'm done with this game!
Lol and imagine it’s only for giants, I’m not even gonna attempt to play this no reason to
What are the chances of us getting Kratos from Ragnarok, ik it might not happen but the idea is good 🤔
I'd scream
still asking for the full ur crit defense red lostvayne
but i think it would be funny if a full stance team with green estarosa was a good team for this
Little did we know that floor 17 of tower was just the beginning!
I need red giant Diane so bad
Guess I’ll wait until they release a character designed for it.
This is savage.
guess im not getting any of these new relics lmao
So .did we get Ragnarok anime adaptation?
no, it will never get one
@@titok0018 why ?
They never talked about getting an anime adaptation lol
Diane's hips dont lie
From what I can see beating this when it releases on global will be a pain..at least even with how annoying deer was I could clear it first week and never bothered trying until jormungand was released.
hi NAG i am from the future and telling u . U NEED RED THONAR FOR THIS CRAP . get her when u have the chance with her relic of course
Looks like a goddess team would do well here.
This fight is actually just unfair...god dang lol...watch that new stupid diane coming next week be a must have for this..
Cant wait to see nobody running demon relics until they give out a free one
Freya has all aoe skills in story so she might be good for this when she releases
They better bring a broken unit for this one because am not going to try it
Ellatte???
Maybe you will need elizabeth fot that activiti with her revive???
Red Matrona would be good for the Damage reduction and the Buff removal
Assault meli's relic better be worth it
We're all screwed
This looks fun with no 6/6 units gonna be slow and boring nice
I think its related with the background color🤔🤨
If such a whale is struggling so much with it, how tf are F2P players supposed to do it?!
Maybe one specific unit is required.
Previous beasts are way easier with them.
i mean as a f2p u will have to wait for future units . They will release some OP units like T1, tmeli, rimuru.
Then it will be doable
a character like megellda or jormungandr is urgent where is diane :"0
Nagato,tenta colocar algum personagem que ignore defesa,tipo zaratras kkk mete um loko ai ,ou até a brunilda vermelha sei la
Looks like they froze the one with more cc or hp
dayum this looks hard in its not even floor 3
Lol maybi i stupid idea to summon on the new god lighting i have no 0 gems😂
Wtf r u saying cant understnad shit.
You need marg for this like it’s no question
remember when you said this would be less gimmecky and easier
OH Meli🤣🤣🤣
If this raid ist only for giant holy relics I´m not gonna do it LOL
its not raid.. its final boss lol
Demons too
@@uchihaitachi452 facts
Remmeber guys. No Gimmicks
I can’t even beat level 1 bird bruh 💀
I use margaret , traitor meli , Halloween gowther and hallowen matrona
I'm not touching this boss for a few months
That was just floor 2 imagine floor 3 😂
not even gonna attempt when they arrive on global
SKOLL AND HATI WHAAAAT
nagato goated
my man has 6/6 every unit and cant even clear stage 3, how the fuck are any f2p players gonna be able to clear phase 1? is my 1/6 meli even gonna cut it?
He has not even reached stage 3 it was tragic
Whaaaaaaaat?!!! They have grey revive?!!!! Hahahahaha i can't believe
I cant beat floor 1 of bird😶
he made a video on this "why you cant beat bird when you have traitor meli"