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One Kill with EVERY Bullpup Gun in Call of Duty

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  • In this video I use every single type of bullpup style weapon in Call of Duty! bullpup weapons such as the Famas, AUG, TAR and much more are all included in this video! Thank you for watching my video, I appreciate the support!
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ความคิดเห็น • 742

  • @helpkirbyhasagun_2047
    @helpkirbyhasagun_2047 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Ghosts did new to old so he didn’t have to end off with claymore deaths
    Change my mind

  • @ycgoh603
    @ycgoh603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Some things to clarify first:
    With Bullpup weapons, the magazine and action is behind the trigger. The action is where the gun handles the ammunition. This includes loading, locking, firing, extracting and ejecting. Since the action of the VMP seems to be on top of the trigger, it (probably) isn't a bullpup, I'm unsure of the FMG9 and the ERAD in IW, since the ERAD doesn't use traditional ammunition. (Yes, I am still learning about this, so I might get something wrong, and would highly appreciate it if a gun nut corrects me)
    With that out if the way, here are some fun facts about the guns shown in this video (magazine capacity mistakes not included):
    1) The FAMAS in MW 2019 seems to have the barrel and gas block of the Remington ACR, despite the FAMAS not being a gas-operated weapon.
    2) In CoD4, you can see through the P90's magazine, however the magazine isn't shown to be emptied when firing the gun, which I assume is because of engine limitations. This is fixed in later CoDs.
    3) MTAR-X is wrongly classified as an SMG, same with the AKS-74U in older CoD games.
    4) VKS is wrongly depicted as semi auto instead of being a bolt-action.
    5) In MW3, the soldier doesn't chamber a round after doing an empty reload using the FAD. This is fixed in Ghosts.
    6)The Chicom CQB, which is a modified Jianshe JS 9mm with a carrying handle, is wrongly depicted as a burst-firing weapon in MP.
    7) The KSG in BO2 loads in green shells and ejects red shells.
    8) The KSG in both MW3 and BO2 never depicted the magazine selector being operated, thus only one out of two magazine tubes is being utilized.
    9) XM-25 in singleplayer is missing the HEAB (High Explosive Air Bursting) features while being bolt action.
    Continued in replies because this comment is getting too long.

    • @ycgoh603
      @ycgoh603 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      10) The HS-10 has a warning under the ejection port that tells users not to fire from the left shoulder. Should a person do this, the ejected hot plastic shell would fly towards the user's face. The soldier ignores this and dual wields the gun.
      11) Every gun in BO1 featured in this video is anachronistic (except for the HS-10):
      WA 2000: Gun designed in the late 70s, and manufactured in 1982. First appearance in this game: 1968.
      AUG: Patented at 1974, enters worldwide service at 1978. First appearance in this game: 1968. A2 in MP is developed in 1997.
      FAMAS: Base weapon developed in 1978, specific variant introduced in 2000s. First appearance in this game: 1968.
      Enfield (XL64): Developed in mid-1970s. First appearance in this game: 1968.
      12) Questionable usage of the FAMAS by Russian troops in MW2 and Spetsnaz in BO1.
      13) The soldier treats the takedown button on the F2000 like a bolt release, which it doesn't have a bolt release. This would cause the gun to come apart. Also questionable usage by Russian troops.
      14) WA 2000 had a limited production run, but is used by Russian snipers and Shadow Company troops.
      15) The BOS-14 is based on the Scar-17 Ultralight, a bullpup configuration for the Scar-H, but uses 5.56 NATO magazines, so essentially it is a bullpup Scar-L.
      This is the longest one I've done.

    • @CoDGhosts619
      @CoDGhosts619  4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      phenomenal explanations !

    • @iguessthisisnowmyname2258
      @iguessthisisnowmyname2258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes, the aks-74u featured in those games are wrongly placed under the smg category

    • @Bruno-fx6xz
      @Bruno-fx6xz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      YCGOH ok boomer

    • @kesiaird8974
      @kesiaird8974 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bruno you me ok gun intellectual

  • @ForTheLockerFist
    @ForTheLockerFist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +118

    One kill with secondary

    • @bl4z3w3b
      @bl4z3w3b 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      the commentary that started everything

  • @aarion7645
    @aarion7645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +259

    Do one Kill with every gun with a Weird iron sight

    • @hmmale5542
      @hmmale5542 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Aarion dont give a Fuck that may vary by opinion

    • @spartanipods
      @spartanipods 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @Dank Meep I actually like the F2000's iron sights

    • @Infamous500
      @Infamous500 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That would be a interesting video, good suggestion 👍

    • @delta_medusa5465
      @delta_medusa5465 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Whats the defenition by wierd iron sight tho? I Can think one guns iron sight is wierd but you have a whole different opinion so it doesnt make much sence unless he uses all the comments from the players

    • @hmmale5542
      @hmmale5542 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      JTBSpartan same

  • @elishahockett2041
    @elishahockett2041 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    When he says he's not doing it in chronological order, but doesn't realize that just because you go backwards doesn't mean it's not chronological...(smartypants mode)

  • @jakesboss5856
    @jakesboss5856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Evolution of lethals and how they have changed over the years

  • @Samboy1135
    @Samboy1135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Evolution of underbarrel attachments

  • @brycedixon8546
    @brycedixon8546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Nobody:
    Ghosts619: You see this piece of grass??I might just make an entire video of it

  • @silvers333-u1w
    @silvers333-u1w 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    (This is a joke)
    Nobody:
    Ghost video title in the future: One Kill with EVERY gun that uses .50 CALIBER bullets in Call Of Duty.

    • @supreme_briann24
      @supreme_briann24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      well that joke is overused & unfunny, & this was a desperate attempt to be funny. Stop it
      gg

    • @veryrealdrdog
      @veryrealdrdog 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Chihoohaa ___ you mean Bot619 vid in the future

    • @iguessthisisnowmyname2258
      @iguessthisisnowmyname2258 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What kind of .50 caliber?

    • @s.i_xo
      @s.i_xo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess this is now My name guns Like The Desert Eagle,Barret 50 .Cal,AX-50

  • @ronysantos266
    @ronysantos266 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A quad feed with every default class in every call of duty

  • @williamoneal4112
    @williamoneal4112 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The individual zoom ins for He Fucked Up had me out of my mind😂😂😂😂

  • @rsotuyo15
    @rsotuyo15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Since when is the VMP bullpup? The mag is in the grip itself, with that logic the pistols are bullpup

  • @kingsleyjohn6564
    @kingsleyjohn6564 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The oden from mw 2019 is my favorite bull pup weapon

    • @melosworld4017
      @melosworld4017 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not to hate on your opinion but I can’t stand the oden

    • @lubedupduck69bigpp16
      @lubedupduck69bigpp16 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Alex Colon it’s good is you use it in semi auto

  • @smoif228
    @smoif228 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The FMG9’s are just full auto pistols in a frame. They’re not bullpup

  • @fastlane8154
    @fastlane8154 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One kill with every lever action weapon in the game. That sounds interesting

  • @slamai6939
    @slamai6939 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Day 10 make the evolution of the M1 Garand

  • @noahberkow
    @noahberkow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The MW2 Famas is the best Bullpup Gun

  • @ethantaillefer-meyn6535
    @ethantaillefer-meyn6535 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    “Favourite bullpup”
    Brain has stopped working
    “The Type 2 Classes as Bullpup”
    Done

  • @noahberkow
    @noahberkow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    did he forgot the bal-27 or am I just to high?

    • @tori9365
      @tori9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think with that gun the magazine is above the trigger area and not behind it so ita not a bullpup

    • @brentbennett5401
      @brentbennett5401 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      also there is bull pubs in ww2 like the sdk 9mm

    • @jad_n4454
      @jad_n4454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tori9365 If that's true, then why did he include the p90?

    • @soksocks
      @soksocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jad_n4454 if Ghost done his research, the P90 is a bullpup but the Bal is a bit confusing so idk exactly

  • @user-gg9ot5yj1o
    @user-gg9ot5yj1o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    17:33 OHH DUDE THIS IS SOO FUNNY..... CLAYMORE

  • @Gtrxsh
    @Gtrxsh 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so used to playing ghosts so hard that when he was shooting I confusingly was arching my finger back like I was playing with the controller lmao

  • @obamacat3
    @obamacat3 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It anger me how he does not use extended mags on micro9mm
    It's so underated cause it doesn't have stock or other overated thing

  • @juzoaep
    @juzoaep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    One kill with every full auto shotguns like if u agree

    • @xmalunx5059
      @xmalunx5059 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      shrimp god ohh noo😂😂😂

  • @Sarragon97
    @Sarragon97 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The evolution of the riot shield, I don’t remember if you already did it

  • @LegoUnlocked
    @LegoUnlocked 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved that camo in Black ops 3! I had dark matter but only used the ketchup and mustard it was sick!

  • @khye1642
    @khye1642 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    COD WW2 has the Wimmersperg SPZ and the SDK 9mm which are both “bullpup”

  • @zolly9919
    @zolly9919 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    How about you Use every German weapon in CoD History.

    • @redmist6630
      @redmist6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      like it

    • @howl9476
      @howl9476 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *uses MP5 the entire time*

  • @blackvibranium2084
    @blackvibranium2084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    RPD Evolution

  • @hyguy1258
    @hyguy1258 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You should mix things up and get a kill with every gun in every Halo.

  • @Nesscommanda
    @Nesscommanda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One kill with every lmg in every cod

  • @Sebasu
    @Sebasu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The ripper is my favorite
    ♥️Cod Ghost

  • @awesomestevie27
    @awesomestevie27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so what makes the fmg9 a bulpup but not a g18 or any other pistol that also has its mag behind the trigger

    • @Enlightenment99
      @Enlightenment99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Bullpups are weapons where the magazine is behind the action and trigger. That’s why the magazine is located where the stock is. So, the fmg9 or vmp aren’t bullpups.

  • @primo-wgz
    @primo-wgz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    All Burst guns in every cod brooo
    That's the way
    Lol

    • @primo-wgz
      @primo-wgz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Oh how the frick i didn't see this video yet
      Omg
      Thnks bro❤

  • @crimsonnebula9759
    @crimsonnebula9759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    one kill with every single-fire rocket launcher in every call of duty, one kill with every semi-auto weapon in call of duty (you've done so many and covered so many guns and weapons that I don't know what you haven't covered)

  • @tori9365
    @tori9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:21 😂😂😂 btw BO1 Famas is my favorite bullpup

  • @VonsWorld
    @VonsWorld 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have another series idea 🤔 best class setup for EVERY GUN in EVERY COD, you can exclude CoDs before MW2. Its kinda pointless for a class setup in old CoDs but it’s some to do 🤷‍♂️

  • @awesomestevie27
    @awesomestevie27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    one kill with every slug firing shotgun
    so :
    Ksg
    Ghosts shotguns
    Argus (only while ads)
    M30 Luftwaffe Drilling (Rifle Bullet)
    Modern warfare shotguns

    • @deadlanzer138
      @deadlanzer138 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Luftwaffe drilling rifle bullet is a bullet not a slug

  • @brennan_7656
    @brennan_7656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Video idea "The best maps in every call of duty"

  • @TwiDash
    @TwiDash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The FAD will always be my favorite Bullpup

  • @savadomanov3049
    @savadomanov3049 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Ghost! What about russian guns in cod series? I’m your subscriber from Russia, Novosibirsk, think it will be cool. Thanks for your content, love you

  • @skylerbenoit1103
    @skylerbenoit1103 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not to mention the VKS Vykhlop is a straight-pull bolt-action, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO FUNCTION AS! But the devs can sometimes break real-life functionality of some weapons.

    • @phillipwoodruff2935
      @phillipwoodruff2935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cod ghosts take place in 2027 and in real life there are conversion for the vks to semi automatic

  • @MASTERKEYHOLE_090
    @MASTERKEYHOLE_090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not gonna lie, i used A LOT the SVU-AS from BO2, i liked that sniper

  • @Rat0725
    @Rat0725 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I never knew that bull pup was a thing in cod

    • @Wes.Crump00
      @Wes.Crump00 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pup

    • @Rat0725
      @Rat0725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Wes.Crump00 auto correct

    • @slushiez8111
      @slushiez8111 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I bulled a pup

    • @Rat0725
      @Rat0725 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slushiez8111 🐂

    • @tori9365
      @tori9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rat0725 what do u mean u didn't know? Lol you've *never* used or seen a gun in cod with mag behind handle?

  • @EchoesPinkFloyd
    @EchoesPinkFloyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    if the VMP it's an bullpup gun, why the Uzi isn't?

    • @springy1296
      @springy1296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      É br?

    • @TR33J
      @TR33J 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dillonc7955 and those guns, like normal pistols, have their mags in the grip, so technically not behind the trigger.

    • @EchoesPinkFloyd
      @EchoesPinkFloyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@springy1296 yes kkkkk

  • @brandonteichroeb1446
    @brandonteichroeb1446 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You make amazing videos ghost I love you man. My favourite bullpup weapon is the famas

  • @synthvt
    @synthvt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If you dont have a stabilizer in bo4 the sights dont work, basically. At least for me

  • @tornadohunterjacarrirblxwx
    @tornadohunterjacarrirblxwx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    2:20 it was at this moment he knew he fucked up

  • @ethanchrist14
    @ethanchrist14 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do the evaluation of the game mode infected. MW3, ghosts, AW, IW, (BO3 would have to be old gameplay because it was an LTM), WW2, BO4

  • @napalmconsumer3652
    @napalmconsumer3652 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Elbow *exists*
    Ghosts: interesting

  • @bendurst
    @bendurst 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really out here reppin the bootleg OG Chris Smoove intro music

  • @hookahmaxx7398
    @hookahmaxx7398 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is THE BIGGEST CHELLENGE EVER!! FOR YOU: Killing enemys with only the STARTING MAGAZINE in EVERY COD YOU HAVE!!!!!! (ARs, SMGs, LMGs, Snipers, DMRs, Shotguns, Rockets, Sidearms and Specials!) Make sure to shoot your Gun until the Mag is empty and try to Kill many enemys as its possible! Good Luck!

  • @NomadDerg
    @NomadDerg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My favorite bulpup weapon is the type 95 from mw3

  • @yveshku5583
    @yveshku5583 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favourite bullpup weapon would go to aug, though the Mtar/Mtar-X, Lynx. DSR-50, and Ripper are close for me.

  • @GX4Reaper
    @GX4Reaper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Finally Ghost, I've been wanting this since your previous videos

  • @JWayne-vb1yg
    @JWayne-vb1yg 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Huh, you learn something new every day, didn't know what a Bullpup was til today

    • @soksocks
      @soksocks 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's pretty common word, I dont blame you but now you know

  • @jordansheppard3770
    @jordansheppard3770 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo it’s been 18 episodes. Do the evolution of the RPG. Come on bot619

  • @pablolore143
    @pablolore143 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you think about it, a pistol is technically a bullpup because the magazine is behind the trigger.

  • @lionseacrest777
    @lionseacrest777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My fav is either the M-tar or the ripper SMG, both really sexy weapons and can't wait to see them return to MW

  • @Killrinstinct3
    @Killrinstinct3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the oden a semi auto gun or full auto with a slow fire rate?

  • @megumin5468
    @megumin5468 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VeteranBot619
    There Ya Go, i'm nicer

  • @omegagames3191
    @omegagames3191 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking back im pretty sure the erad from IW would be a break action

  • @ultra_loop1259
    @ultra_loop1259 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    16:28 2 stealth bombers called at once and not a single kill? How!

  • @kidbeatr
    @kidbeatr 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What Bout pistols?
    Idk if I'm right but the magazine is behind the trigger coz it's in the handle.

  • @jonturner5621
    @jonturner5621 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im a huge fan of the type2 and isnt the iw model 1887 bulbpub

  • @eguaish
    @eguaish 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cod ww2, 2 weapon bullpup. 1 sniper, 1 rifre

    • @eguaish
      @eguaish 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dlc weapons

  • @bypasslunaticsblade9226
    @bypasslunaticsblade9226 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite bull pup is probably the famas and any other burst fire bullpup weapon
    And the P90 of course

  • @divinex9671
    @divinex9671 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sniping in BO4 is one of the worst of all time. Words cannot describe how happy I was when the sniping actually became good in MW

  • @hornetplays4045
    @hornetplays4045 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Melee only nuke in every cod. You wont

  • @JoshuaaWYD
    @JoshuaaWYD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should try to get a nuke in every cod with an aug

  • @xXBarracudaXx
    @xXBarracudaXx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    My favorite bull pups are probably the aug, ffar, and dbsr

  • @loin9715
    @loin9715 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Comedy Ghost 😂💔 11:58

  • @brianpyrobarbar9071
    @brianpyrobarbar9071 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ripper from gosht, insane switch wapon Killing fast in range and in front of guys.

  • @xXP120DIGYXx1
    @xXP120DIGYXx1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hope we see the F2000 in MW someday.

  • @matthewearner7759
    @matthewearner7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do evolution of every semi auto gun in cod history (excluding pistols tho cuz that would way too long)

  • @crossbones1238
    @crossbones1238 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    One kill with semi automatic gun

  • @carlitos._.8595
    @carlitos._.8595 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evolution of the spas 12, keep up the good work.🖒👻

  • @Killrinstinct3
    @Killrinstinct3 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do a ripper video I've been wanting one forever. I had 36k kills in cod ghosts with it

  • @galalmehrez5832
    @galalmehrez5832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    May fav is the svu from bo2

  • @ultra_loop1259
    @ultra_loop1259 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shotgun evolution. Favorite bull pup is famas from mw2 and dsr50

  • @SlipYoke6081x
    @SlipYoke6081x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yeah I love these bot619 videos

  • @redmist6630
    @redmist6630 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love the mtar. respect

  • @tonycappaa
    @tonycappaa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Use the venom x

  • @remohsiwel3565
    @remohsiwel3565 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yo ghost you forgot to add the bal and EPM3 clips from advance warfare lol. Just a heads up.

  • @sirbla1rsco239
    @sirbla1rsco239 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    What was that about the Easter egg and the bridge in invasion on mw2 ?

  • @luanfonseca5179
    @luanfonseca5179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    my favorite bullpup is the P90

  • @opoc_x37
    @opoc_x37 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:26 he got *rekt*

  • @awesomestevie27
    @awesomestevie27 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do a one kill with every weapon that has green LED iron sights
    ps long barrel on the hg40 changes LED color

  • @AverageAngler512
    @AverageAngler512 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ww2 does have bullpups, I think one of them is the silenced 9mm sniper

  • @nbatj691
    @nbatj691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aug from mw 2 is my fav easy recoil control looks cool

  • @anubis4032
    @anubis4032 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:09 MFer didn't even use bal-27 ☹️☹️☹️☹️😢

  • @Ztc1996
    @Ztc1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I brought this up a long time ago but I’m gonna start bringing it up on every video.
    Nuke, V2, DNA bomb, etc with every pistol

  • @GrizzLee777
    @GrizzLee777 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your grind lately is crazy bro 🔥🔥

  • @marquesniekoley2887
    @marquesniekoley2887 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:56 I love his class names

  • @Dhesxx
    @Dhesxx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do every drum round mag kill in every cod

  • @wellfucc3104
    @wellfucc3104 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The S12 is basically the AA-12 on every drug in existence

  • @CyrilsKnives
    @CyrilsKnives 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The evolution of *evolution of* series

  • @loststormtrooper7873
    @loststormtrooper7873 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Doesn't the secondaries also count
    Many of the pistols have the magazine behind the trigger

  • @yuseifudo3958
    @yuseifudo3958 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a video on the Enfield in bo1 it was a super underated gun in my opinion

  • @getoscarfied
    @getoscarfied 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In COD WWII there is a dlc gun (I forget the name) It looks like a STG-44 but the grip is a magazine. I think it counts as a bullpup. Then again, I'm not confident in saying that.

  • @beanpizza48
    @beanpizza48 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, it's a tie between the mtar from bo2 and the sa87 from the new mw