Well could be weapons on the forgotten bloke range. Where Ian goes to a British pub and finds out what dodgy historical firearms are hidden in bags and for sale
@@BlokeontheRange I think we should start a petition for you to shoot it. Allowing you to hold it without shooting it is cruel and I admire your stiff upperlipness in the face of such taunting.
Amazing ! please do more about this p26 organization i would love to se more in detail about that storage bunker and exactly what was in them and more about the organisation and how thery where supposed to work
It's not that surprising that it is well balanced despite its length. I mean, a large component of a moderator/silencer/suppressor (whatever you want to call it!) is fresh air, after all!
For a few years the Rifles were given to the Military Police and since I was at the right time at the right place, we could test them out. They are really quiet your really hear the firing pin. After that you hear the bullet flying through the air like "schschschsch" and then of course the impact for its quite a hefty bullet. Lesser known fact: The Ammo was intentionally made from a combination of a Revolver casing and a rifle type bullet so if anyone would find the casing they would not think it would belong to the bullet fired in your russian commanders chest. Also you could collapse the stock and unscrew 2 sections of the silencer. Then you have a really small package to take with. Best regards from Switzerland HptfwO
I love all the comments from people that have never seen this super secret hidden away never to be seen super deniable rifle with only a few ever haven been built. That's pretty much the entire point of it!
as per "Relations Entre l'Organisation P-26 et des organisations analogues a l'etranger" preparations for what would become P-26 were started in 1957. the report actually goes into some detail about P-26 members being trained by SIS and CIA agents.
Did the Swiss ever do any K31s or any of the other 7.5x55 guns converted to fire this cartridge? The rim of the .41 magnum is nearly the same as the 7.5x55; it fits well in a K31 bolt. It seems like a pretty natural fit to me, enough so that I got a spare K31 action to make my own 41 magnum carbine with.
@@oldesertguy9616 That and the 10.4 vetterli experience. When the swiss adopt a caliber they tested it. The STG 90 and GP 90 developpement was a ten millions of cartridges fired kind of deal. They had very good data on the 10.4 vetterli but wanted a straight case, smokeless powder and a bit more oomph. The .41 magnum was an easy choice.
I have the Brügger&Thomet SPR300, which might be the modern equivalent only in .300Whisper. A rifle made in collaboration with RUAG and very precise with their ammunition.
10,3mm bullet is the same as the 10,3x60R a popular hunting and match cartridge, which by law is mandatory minimum to use in some Kantons in Switzerland. So bullets has been around for many decades there.
@@jic1 It cost a good bit to develop a cartridge and with components around its easy. Recently RWS made a 10,3x68 Mag, in short trimmed .375 HH case cut down a bit and widened to 10,3mm from ca 180 grain or smaller not exactly sure . And up to 400 grain. Its around but limited to the Swiss so they know the diameter and similar chambered one very good.
@@MrPh30 There isn't much on 10.3x60R out there (at least not in English), so am I right in assuming that it's the Swiss equivalent of .45-70? By which I mean, it's a early military black powder centerfire cartridge that's still relevant to hunters in a modernized form? So, then, 10.3x68 Mag is similar in concept to .458 Win Mag, a big/dangerous game cartridge in an old familiar caliber?
More the .416 Rem Mag one can say, but there is most likely some close resembling wildcats similar also. Here is little bit of the 10,3x60 www.municion.org/450_400/10_3x60R.htm
The countersunk Phillips head screws on the receiver and the cheese head screws on the suppressor make sense if these were assembled at the unit level. They'd want the hardware to be as easy to obtain as possible and not unique to the rifle in terms of size or finish.
Yeah sure, it's for "anti material" purposes *wink wink* I wouldn't want to be assigned the job to get under 200m of soviet troops in occupied switzerland only to destroy an antenna
Hey, if it's your family and neighbours who'll get shot in reprisals, you may want to stick to only sabotage and espionage. Bloke is right, this is way overpowered for anti personnel.
If its about antennas and such those might well not be guarded at all. Here in switzerland, the mountainous parts at least, you need relay antennas on mountain ridges to communicate with nearby valleys. Those probably wouldnt be guarded at all or just very lightly (at least until a bunch of them got taken out). Also the reprisals would most likely follow assasinations of generals and such, not some lone private guarding some antenna.
@@Soff1859 I wouldn't count on the Red Army tolerating even the lowest ranked soldier being shot at. It's hard to understand this contradiction, how the Red Army could on the one had do so little to protect their soldiers due to things like gas masks that contained asbestos yet they would care about lowly conscripts being sniped. The distinction is that the Red Army's propaganda can cover up that there's asbestos in the gas masks, they can cover up meningitis outbreaks, they can't cover up that soldiers are being shot in broad daylight and they'll be afraid to even walk outside. The whole point of snipers shooting at soldiers it to reduce the combat effectiveness of such infantry units, it forces them to do less effective soldiering. So this is why such armies will order reprisals in response to rank-and-file riflemen being sniped. It's a way to stop the sniping attacks by hurting what the snipers care about. The commanders who order these massacres are only trying to stop a mutiny by their men who refuse to stand at a guard position due to fear of sniper attacks. And the soldiers who have seen their colleagues be shot "in cold blood" will be hopped up wanting revenge on a scapegoat. The UK had similar stay-behind units and they had trained sharpshooters/snipers but apparently their main target was not any German or Axis soldiers. Their task was to assassinate collaborators. This was something that was not calculated to cause reprisals because these totalitarian regimes weren't assumed to be particularly riled up by "foreigners" (as they saw it) being killed. And equipment loss... come on, a conscript isn't going to be furious and want revenge over mere metal being destroyed. They won't be afraid of equipment being destroyed when they often don't even know what the equipment does. They will want revenge over seeing a 19 year old fellow soldier get their head blown off by a sniper who attacked suddenly and sneakily with no chance for anyone to fight back.
Hi Bloke. There's a fourth gun. The Swiss Military Museum Full-Reuenthal is working on a new public exhibition about the P26, including a G150 and all other weapons. It is possible to view a storage bunker.
Soviet Officers wear clothing made of material, hence "anti material" rifle. Bullet weight could easily be driven by best possible terminal ballistics while remaining subsonic.
I'd like to know about the thinking and development behind that oddball cartridge. If I was developing something like this, a somewhat uncommon rimmed cartridge with a gigantic bullet weight probably wouldn't be my first idea.
It'll fit in a standard off-the-shelf rifle's breech face, and will deliver the heaviest practical bullet high-subsonic in the smallest package possible. The big bullet weight is to do damage to military equipment while being subsonic.
Points taken. Just was odd to my mind, and I was thinking about the ballistics with that cannonball-- makes sense, though, and a sneaky suppressed rifle likely isn't meant for long shots : ).
@@kam_iko Looks like the same colours as the "Berlin Camo" used by the British for urban environments.
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Camouflage: Using color/pattern variations to break up the outline of something so that when someone looks at it, they don't recognize it. I think the whole point of this is that, if someone is looking at it, you're not being sneaky enough.
I find the ctg to be the most interesting part. A .41 Magnum with a 409 gn proj - dang! Looks great. So, when Century Arms imports these I’ll be able to get ammo for it at Cabelas. I’m in!
is it possible that this was kind of an influence on the modern day B&T SPR300? Sure its a .300 Blackout rifle, but they look similar enough to me, both in concept and cosmetically
I seem to remember P-26 members were equipped with P225, not P.75, for self-defence (but I don't remember where I've read that, possibly in Matter's book)
@@BlokeontheRange I found it ! It was for area chiefs, and with their Cobra cryptographer and a few goodies (like 2 kg of gold), they got a P225 with three mags and 120x cartridges. It was indeed in Martin Matter's fascinating "Le Faux scandale de la P-26 et les vrais préparatifs de résistance contre une armée d'occupation" published by Slatkine in Geneva, page 70. What is cool about this information tidbit is it explains why SIG-Sauer produced the Haemmerli P225 "montage suisse", not only for police departments.
Zeiss, eaw, sauer 80 reciever/bolt - that's very high quality indeed Only for materiel, or also just a tiny bit for taking out strategically important opponents/collaborators?
@@gnarshread Nothing contained within this comment is true. The average European knows virtually nothing about firearms and uneducated, semi-literate, low IQ rurals even less so which makes it all the more concerning as they're the ones most likely to privately own firearms. The only reason you don't see more bubba-jobbed rifles because it's literally prohibited by law.. Stop talking out of your ass, you Europhilic trash. Source: I live in fucking Europe.
I would like to have put up a sky satelite dish just to hear the bits of it tumble down. Interesting but that .45 Texan air rifle would probably more tactical.
Can you make this video go onto Forgotten Weapons to further complete the FW collection , or maybe tell Ian to make a 50 second video linking to this video - i searched his entire channel for this exact video before remembering it was on yours ...
the crosshair form is called "Absehen 8", the scope looks like hensoldt or maybe kahles, but does someone know what kind of model it is based on? is it sauer mod. 80?
You mentioned that the whole P-26 thing turned into a scandal. Could you perhaps talk a little more about that? What was the concern of the people who brought it up and how much basis did their worries have in reality?
Look up gladio and p-2 lodge. Basically an org of secret nazis kept on NATO’s payroll to do crime and prevent any kind of organized resistance to capitalism
Because they were a treasonous bunch of weirdos who thought they were above the law. Working for Nato while pretending to belong to a neutral country. They should be prosecuted.
Just another thought, I'm sure that the ctg offers more than manageable recoil, important for follow up shots at a moving target, but I have to wonder if a modern version might be produced with either the 460 or 500 S&w magnums, or perhaps the 300 blackout subsonic 🧐 afterall, the "cold war" may be over, but those sorts of threats never go away...historically speaking!
Firstly, recoil for follow-up shots is less important for a bolt action, cos you disturb your position to work the bolt. It is important for watching the impact though. And it just so happens that B+T have made a very similar-looking (and clearly derivative) rifle in 300 BLK ;)
Any chance they'll let you have a few shots with it? Did they keep the original .41 Magnum twist rate or did they speed it up to deal with the heavy bullet?
Fascinating rifle, thanks Bloke! If I could own moderators/silencers/suppressors I'd be very keen on something like this, maybe in .44 mag. @ 2:14, that gun is shooting blanks right? Either that or she has some mega wrist strength!
I think she might be using some sort of training round with reduced powder charge and a plastic or light weight metal bullet. The way the slide seemed to be on a very light spring when she racked it also makes me think it was a light training round being used as it would need to be to cycle with the low power round.
File under "things you'll be waiting for until the heat death of the universe cos there's no way that they'll be letting these and the ammo for them out into the wild" ;)
Recknagel turn type scope mount also , one rifle i would have liked in my collection. Or a collector friend would have suffered a bankaccount ÷ stroke for that one 😉.
But but but we wanted to hear it go pew-pew ... :( *I understand that since it's a museum piece it may even not be fully functional any more. I am kind of curious just how silent it is, given it's caliber.
@@BlokeontheRange Nice :). I guess the country is mature and responsible enough to treat weapons properly. Meanwhile in Britain: pbs.twimg.com/media/D6hiNgmWkAE7biJ.jpg:large :)))
Forgotten Bloke on the Weapons Range :D
Damn I was going to say that :-) Bloke go on admit it you want it don't you, your fondling give you away...
Well could be weapons on the forgotten bloke range. Where Ian goes to a British pub and finds out what dodgy historical firearms are hidden in bags and for sale
@@ste887 That sounds better :D
Jesus on the Range
Wut? A never heard of rifle? You're not the gun Jesus.....
I approve tho.
Gun St. Peter?
@@kristiangustafson4130 Gun-helm Tell ?
Gun St. Paul
Giving Gun Jesus a run for his money!
Gun jesus would have shot it :(
Operation Gladio arms caches turned up in Britain as well. One in a retired army officers garage. He passed away and the police service found it.
You're teasing us by not shooting it, Bloke! Would be interesting to see just how quiet it really is
I would give my eye teeth to shoot it... Highly unlikely to ever happen though...
@@BlokeontheRange If you start talking funny I expect a range video of it.
@@BlokeontheRange I expect at least a collab with Inrange where we see a mudtest with the G150 🤣😅
Build something on the cartridge, 10,3x68 400 grain bullets and a 10,3 barrel and cases and a huge suppy.
@@BlokeontheRange I think we should start a petition for you to shoot it. Allowing you to hold it without shooting it is cruel and I admire your stiff upperlipness in the face of such taunting.
Very fascinating, and thanks so much for not only sharing this unique firearm but also reminding us that neutral does not mean safe!
Amazing ! please do more about this p26 organization i would love to se more in detail about that storage bunker and exactly what was in them and more about the organisation and how thery where supposed to work
Thank you for helping to provide a better perspective on this particularly unique, yet relatively untouched part of Cold War history.
fascinating I love covert equipment after 11 years as a Stay behind observer .
It's not that surprising that it is well balanced despite its length. I mean, a large component of a moderator/silencer/suppressor (whatever you want to call it!) is fresh air, after all!
US has a 44 special suppressed rifle and the Russians have the 9x39. This is amazing.
I want to say that the US rifle was a Ruger M77/44, which is a micro Mauser type action with rotary magazine, chambered in .44 Magnum.
The US for a short time had a shortened 458 win mag as a silent sniper (458x1.5 Barnes iirc)
Wow super cool rifle. Thanks for the chance to see one. Ian from forgotten weapons must be drowning in his own saliva.
Richard Thorpe That’s hilarious!🤣 Well said...can I use it?!
B. Frew feel free. Have a great day
I own 7 .41 Rem Mags, I so want this rifle lol Great episode, but your's always are Thank you
Never heard of this thing. Such a cool rifle. Thanks!
For a few years the Rifles were given to the Military Police and since I was at the right time at the right place, we could test them out. They are really quiet your really hear the firing pin. After that you hear the bullet flying through the air like "schschschsch" and then of course the impact for its quite a hefty bullet.
Lesser known fact: The Ammo was intentionally made from a combination of a Revolver casing and a rifle type bullet so if anyone would find the casing they would not think it would belong to the bullet fired in your russian commanders chest.
Also you could collapse the stock and unscrew 2 sections of the silencer. Then you have a really small package to take with.
Best regards from Switzerland HptfwO
Interesting, thanks! I'd just presumed that the .41 case was used cos it was available if obscure.
I had thought a SIG P553 was my unicorn. But I have found my TRUE Swiss Mistress.
One of the coolest weapons I have seen. The colours lend it a Q design, honey badger sort of look. A big fix maybe.
I love all the comments from people that have never seen this super secret hidden away never to be seen super deniable rifle with only a few ever haven been built. That's pretty much the entire point of it!
I don't care for guns but find all the history behind these lost weapons so interesting
Thanks very much for sharing this rare and beautiful/beastly example of another fine Swiss rifle. Super!
Thank you! I Never was able to find some good informations on this!
as per "Relations Entre l'Organisation P-26 et des organisations analogues a l'etranger" preparations for what would become P-26 were started in 1957. the report actually goes into some detail about P-26 members being trained by SIS and CIA agents.
Did the Swiss ever do any K31s or any of the other 7.5x55 guns converted to fire this cartridge? The rim of the .41 magnum is nearly the same as the 7.5x55; it fits well in a K31 bolt. It seems like a pretty natural fit to me, enough so that I got a spare K31 action to make my own 41 magnum carbine with.
I was wondering how they came up with a relatively uncommon US revolver cartridge for this thing. Your statement explains it to me.
@@oldesertguy9616 That and the 10.4 vetterli experience.
When the swiss adopt a caliber they tested it. The STG 90 and GP 90 developpement was a ten millions of cartridges fired kind of deal.
They had very good data on the 10.4 vetterli but wanted a straight case, smokeless powder and a bit more oomph. The .41 magnum was an easy choice.
I have the Brügger&Thomet SPR300, which might be the modern equivalent only in .300Whisper. A rifle made in collaboration with RUAG and very precise with their ammunition.
Incredible episode! Thank you from the U.S.!
WoW! First I heard of it.
10,3mm bullet is the same as the 10,3x60R a popular hunting and match cartridge, which by law is mandatory minimum to use in some Kantons in Switzerland. So bullets has been around for many decades there.
Well, that answered a question I had, which was why they didn't use .44 Magnum, which would seem the more obvious choice.
@@jic1 It cost a good bit to develop a cartridge and with components around its easy. Recently RWS made a 10,3x68 Mag, in short trimmed .375 HH case cut down a bit and widened to 10,3mm from ca 180 grain or smaller not exactly sure . And up to 400 grain. Its around but limited to the Swiss so they know the diameter and similar chambered one very good.
@@MrPh30 There isn't much on 10.3x60R out there (at least not in English), so am I right in assuming that it's the Swiss equivalent of .45-70? By which I mean, it's a early military black powder centerfire cartridge that's still relevant to hunters in a modernized form? So, then, 10.3x68 Mag is similar in concept to .458 Win Mag, a big/dangerous game cartridge in an old familiar caliber?
More the .416 Rem Mag one can say, but there is most likely some close resembling wildcats similar also.
Here is little bit of the 10,3x60 www.municion.org/450_400/10_3x60R.htm
The x68Mag the .416 RM cokparison. But .45-70 on the x60 is similar,but lighter bullets for it.
"Anti-Materiel" Rifle. Helmets and uniforms are also materiel.
James Bond, schoolteacher version
i never expected to see 3 round magazine rifle now thst is cool
The countersunk Phillips head screws on the receiver and the cheese head screws on the suppressor make sense if these were assembled at the unit level. They'd want the hardware to be as easy to obtain as possible and not unique to the rifle in terms of size or finish.
Blimee, Ian's new haircut is a bit extreme!
Great video. Thank you. Another one of the many things I did not know.
very interesting !
Could you please create a video about the p 26 project?
Yeah sure, it's for "anti material" purposes *wink wink*
I wouldn't want to be assigned the job to get under 200m of soviet troops in occupied switzerland only to destroy an antenna
Made for destroying helmets, buttons, belt buckles etc
I must’ve misheard him, (I do that), because my ear picked up, "…anti matter" purposes. Like grey matter?🤯😉
Hey, if it's your family and neighbours who'll get shot in reprisals, you may want to stick to only sabotage and espionage. Bloke is right, this is way overpowered for anti personnel.
If its about antennas and such those might well not be guarded at all. Here in switzerland, the mountainous parts at least, you need relay antennas on mountain ridges to communicate with nearby valleys. Those probably wouldnt be guarded at all or just very lightly (at least until a bunch of them got taken out).
Also the reprisals would most likely follow assasinations of generals and such, not some lone private guarding some antenna.
@@Soff1859 I wouldn't count on the Red Army tolerating even the lowest ranked soldier being shot at.
It's hard to understand this contradiction, how the Red Army could on the one had do so little to protect their soldiers due to things like gas masks that contained asbestos yet they would care about lowly conscripts being sniped.
The distinction is that the Red Army's propaganda can cover up that there's asbestos in the gas masks, they can cover up meningitis outbreaks, they can't cover up that soldiers are being shot in broad daylight and they'll be afraid to even walk outside.
The whole point of snipers shooting at soldiers it to reduce the combat effectiveness of such infantry units, it forces them to do less effective soldiering.
So this is why such armies will order reprisals in response to rank-and-file riflemen being sniped. It's a way to stop the sniping attacks by hurting what the snipers care about. The commanders who order these massacres are only trying to stop a mutiny by their men who refuse to stand at a guard position due to fear of sniper attacks.
And the soldiers who have seen their colleagues be shot "in cold blood" will be hopped up wanting revenge on a scapegoat.
The UK had similar stay-behind units and they had trained sharpshooters/snipers but apparently their main target was not any German or Axis soldiers.
Their task was to assassinate collaborators.
This was something that was not calculated to cause reprisals because these totalitarian regimes weren't assumed to be particularly riled up by "foreigners" (as they saw it) being killed. And equipment loss... come on, a conscript isn't going to be furious and want revenge over mere metal being destroyed. They won't be afraid of equipment being destroyed when they often don't even know what the equipment does.
They will want revenge over seeing a 19 year old fellow soldier get their head blown off by a sniper who attacked suddenly and sneakily with no chance for anyone to fight back.
Ohmygod, a true unicorn!
Looks like Something 'Q'
would make for 007
Very cool rifle from a bygone era. Even bulkier when disassemble in storage. Its kind of like an AWS grandfather version.
I enjoy your videos Very cool love these sort of antiques it's good to see that they're in safe hands and they will be shown to future generations
With the SPR 300 the free world might actually get a taste.
and if I had to guess, I'd say that scope looks to be a hensoldt, if the brand is in question.
Well that's something I never knew I needed until right now!
Hi Bloke. There's a fourth gun. The Swiss Military Museum Full-Reuenthal is working on a new public exhibition about the P26, including a G150 and all other weapons. It is possible to view a storage bunker.
Cool, where can I find some info about this? Would love to see this.
....saw the rifle today in Reuenthal.... Very intersting.
I bet Ian McCollum is now planning to visit Switzerland just to do his own review!
Soviet Officers wear clothing made of material, hence "anti material" rifle. Bullet weight could easily be driven by best possible terminal ballistics while remaining subsonic.
Witty, but no. See above discourse about wanting confused Russians, not vengeful Russians.
Odin's trousers, I'm having unpleasant deja vu.
I'd like to know about the thinking and development behind that oddball cartridge. If I was developing something like this, a somewhat uncommon rimmed cartridge with a gigantic bullet weight probably wouldn't be my first idea.
It'll fit in a standard off-the-shelf rifle's breech face, and will deliver the heaviest practical bullet high-subsonic in the smallest package possible. The big bullet weight is to do damage to military equipment while being subsonic.
Points taken. Just was odd to my mind, and I was thinking about the ballistics with that cannonball-- makes sense, though, and a sneaky suppressed rifle likely isn't meant for long shots : ).
Very cool rifle, what is up with the multi color scheme?
probably to visually break up the shape or silhouette of the gun.
@@kam_iko Looks like the same colours as the "Berlin Camo" used by the British for urban environments.
Camouflage: Using color/pattern variations to break up the outline of something so that when someone looks at it, they don't recognize it.
I think the whole point of this is that, if someone is looking at it, you're not being sneaky enough.
@ Thanks folks, I had never seen this type of breakup camo before, makes sense though, now how can we use this to break up facial recognition!?
@@roadpanzir Depending on your environment, sure. Or, better yet, just be more sneaky.
Look at the picture at 1:13 and explain the strange stocks on the STEN's ?
That's a mystery - they don't appear in Peter Laidler's Collector Grade book.
I caught that also. I never have seen a wood stocked mark III Sten before. Where did you find the photo?
Wow,wonderful engineering,nice video.
Awesome stuff Bloke. Nice to see that Internet fame paying off for you 😉
I find the ctg to be the most interesting part. A .41 Magnum with a 409 gn proj - dang! Looks great. So, when Century Arms imports these I’ll be able to get ammo for it at Cabelas. I’m in!
is it possible that this was kind of an influence on the modern day B&T SPR300? Sure its a .300 Blackout rifle, but they look similar enough to me, both in concept and cosmetically
OOH I like this, Ian would be jealous I'm sure!
I seem to remember P-26 members were equipped with P225, not P.75, for self-defence (but I don't remember where I've read that, possibly in Matter's book)
In the old TV footage when they opened the P26 store rooms, they were definitely P75's.
there's an interesting reportage by Temps Presents on the p-26 and you can see P75's -> th-cam.com/video/g1cw3VwP0co/w-d-xo.html
@@BlokeontheRange I found it ! It was for area chiefs, and with their Cobra cryptographer and a few goodies (like 2 kg of gold), they got a P225 with three mags and 120x cartridges. It was indeed in Martin Matter's fascinating "Le Faux scandale de la P-26 et les vrais préparatifs de résistance contre une armée d'occupation" published by Slatkine in Geneva, page 70.
What is cool about this information tidbit is it explains why SIG-Sauer produced the Haemmerli P225 "montage suisse", not only for police departments.
Its a Sauer 80/90, the bolt Releases by just pulling the trigger. The mount is also a civilian "Schwenkmontage".
Tried just pulling the trigger. Didn't work.
@@BlokeontheRange It Needs some pressure and safety has to be off :D
By the way, it's usually a set trigger, interesting choice for such a convertion.
OK, thanks. I wasn't going to yank on the trigger too hard. It wouldn't have been nice to have risked breaking it!
Zeiss, eaw, sauer 80 reciever/bolt - that's very high quality indeed
Only for materiel, or also just a tiny bit for taking out strategically important opponents/collaborators?
Absolutely nobody was ever assassinated with this rifle or any like it.
*Wink
Wow, it's a beautiful and interesting rifle indeed. NIce vid.
On my Sauer bolt action you remove the bolt by firmly pulling the trigger while pulling the bolt to the rear
I thought this was some sort of European bubba job lol happily surprised
That's the great thing about Europe. Bubba tends to be well educated and knows what he's doing. Unlike the idiots I've saved a few SMLE'S from.
@@gnarshread
Nothing contained within this comment is true. The average European knows virtually nothing about firearms and uneducated, semi-literate, low IQ rurals even less so which makes it all the more concerning as they're the ones most likely to privately own firearms. The only reason you don't see more bubba-jobbed rifles because it's literally prohibited by law..
Stop talking out of your ass, you Europhilic trash.
Source: I live in fucking Europe.
@@The_Crimson_Fucker Shut up you just live in a shit place of europe.
That’s a really nice video...I didn’t even know it existed!
I would like to have put up a sky satelite dish just to hear the bits of it tumble down.
Interesting but that .45 Texan air rifle would probably more tactical.
this looks like a sauer 80/90 and the bolt releases on those is to pull the trigger simultaneously pulling back the bolt
Tried that. Didn't work.
So it was a revolver cartridge rifle . A very interesting rifle indeed.
Action looks like a Sauer 80/90. bolt release would be the trigger if i remeber correctly
Can you make this video go onto Forgotten Weapons to further complete the FW collection , or maybe tell Ian to make a 50 second video linking to this video - i searched his entire channel for this exact video before remembering it was on yours ...
Did Gun Jesus shave his head? 🤪
I love it Bloke, I just wish you could take it home with you and shoot it a bunch.
the crosshair form is called "Absehen 8", the scope looks like hensoldt or maybe kahles, but does someone know what kind of model it is based on? is it sauer mod. 80?
Nice ,very interesting information. Thanks for sharing.
Russian analog is VSSK "Vyhlop" 12.7 mm. antimaterial supressed rifle. Can penetrate a BTR 80 armor.
Now that's what you call a silencer!
Nice info sir, thank you for sharing
Item added to wishlist
2:15 she’s shooting blanks
You can see that the slide isn’t moving and the hammer isn’t resetting. And the recoil of course.
Or possibly light training rounds. They make such things with plastic projectiles or sometimes lightweight metals like aluminium.
It's theatrical blanks cos it's a dramatisation for TV...
Stigstigster yeah true, but blanks are more common
@@BlokeontheRange Thank you for commenting with an answer. Much respect to you and your channel.
You mentioned that the whole P-26 thing turned into a scandal. Could you perhaps talk a little more about that? What was the concern of the people who brought it up and how much basis did their worries have in reality?
Look up gladio and p-2 lodge.
Basically an org of secret nazis kept on NATO’s payroll to do crime and prevent any kind of organized resistance to capitalism
Because they were a treasonous bunch of weirdos who thought they were above the law. Working for Nato while pretending to belong to a neutral country. They should be prosecuted.
Just another thought, I'm sure that the ctg offers more than manageable recoil, important for follow up shots at a moving target, but I have to wonder if a modern version might be produced with either the 460 or 500 S&w magnums, or perhaps the 300 blackout subsonic 🧐 afterall, the "cold war" may be over, but those sorts of threats never go away...historically speaking!
Firstly, recoil for follow-up shots is less important for a bolt action, cos you disturb your position to work the bolt. It is important for watching the impact though.
And it just so happens that B+T have made a very similar-looking (and clearly derivative) rifle in 300 BLK ;)
Idiot Rooskie: Heh look it's those pansy neutered Swissy boys.
Secret P-26 Member: Hold my beer...
Is it camouflaged ? Because I think that this interisting paintjob wouldn't work well in Switzerland but hey, # JustP-26Things
superb...thank you
What receiver is it that is sig? For example could you make a modern clone?
Great video!
Very, very cool!
"it didnt matter anymore" evil glare "Peace is the illusion created by the absence of battle" -me
Any chance they'll let you have a few shots with it? Did they keep the original .41 Magnum twist rate or did they speed it up to deal with the heavy bullet?
Doubt it. And likely it's got a much tighter twist cos that's a looooooong bullet. But no chance to find out.
Switzerland being based yet again. These rifles are pretty cool. P26 is cooler however.
Any reason for the multiple color patterns?
Fascinating rifle, thanks Bloke! If I could own moderators/silencers/suppressors I'd be very keen on something like this, maybe in .44 mag.
@ 2:14, that gun is shooting blanks right? Either that or she has some mega wrist strength!
I think she might be using some sort of training round with reduced powder charge and a plastic or light weight metal bullet. The way the slide seemed to be on a very light spring when she racked it also makes me think it was a light training round being used as it would need to be to cycle with the low power round.
But it didn't cycle at all, you can see the hammer didn't re-cock or anything.
@@Stigstigster It said on the video that it was a reconstruction, so probably blanks.
@@jic1 Bloke on the Range himself answered in another post stating they were blanks so you are correct.
Still waiting for the shooting video for this thing till this day....
File under "things you'll be waiting for until the heat death of the universe cos there's no way that they'll be letting these and the ammo for them out into the wild" ;)
Very interesting weapon ..
Recknagel turn type scope mount also , one rifle i would have liked in my collection. Or a collector friend would have suffered a bankaccount ÷ stroke for that one 😉.
Very cool! BTW....Today (there) is everyone out to Vote?
Interesting weapon.
But but but we wanted to hear it go pew-pew ... :(
*I understand that since it's a museum piece it may even not be fully functional any more. I am kind of curious just how silent it is, given it's caliber.
Oh, it is fully functional. They don't deactivate firearms in museums here.
@@BlokeontheRange Nice :). I guess the country is mature and responsible enough to treat weapons properly. Meanwhile in Britain: pbs.twimg.com/media/D6hiNgmWkAE7biJ.jpg:large :)))
sehr cool danke!!
Looks like the de lisle's tacticool operator brother
Awesome!
Pretty neat
So it is like VSS, but bolt action?
"With a ten in my hand and a gleam in my eye..."
409 grains at high subsonic? Sound about as powerful as a shotgun slug.
a silent shotgun slug accurate to 200m.
perfect for sentries and guard dogs.
Looks like a bolt action sks with integrated suppressor