Hmmm are they making cars like they make most things: Has all the bells and whistles but not quite there in functionality? I appreciate the honesty and real review, all other channels simply present specs (which I can get from any of the car maker's website any time) and glowing positivity (basically just another salesperson), perhaps to get views 😢 I don't need a salesperson, I need to know how well everything works as well as the things that are not so great so I can weigh up whether it's something I can live with for a long time given the price point. Please keep up this approach of showing us how well everything works.
LOL I’ve been researching electric cars for years and this video came up on my feed! Love the straight forward no bs approach. Going to watch some of your others now! “It’s a really good car if you don’t like cars” 😂
Hyundai with same size battery and equipment cost 2 times more in my country and yes you dont get bigger range in them .For sure not best car but now nothing better for the money .I have 2 BMWs (diesel X5 and petrol cabriolet ) and i love that 2 cars but almost always something wrong with them and repairs are super expensive (i will not even mention fuel consumption ) .So is more economically to just watched them in yard ,drive them sometimes and drive this cheap car as daily
In regards to the NRMA chargers you can activate them with a Chargfox RFID card or just use the Chargefox app. Chargefox calls this “roaming” but it all works just as a chargfox charger.
Blinking Heck Stu! I hope you're getting plenty of $$$ for this video. Seems like there's an ad every couple of minutes, some of which you can skip, but others you have to wait out. I can tolerate a few ads, but this is a new test of tolerance.
Ah sorry to hear that. Ad placement is not something I've every tried to manage but I feel your pain. I'll see what I can do. And on future vids. My son recommends ad blockers. Maybe there's one suitable for your favourite browser. I'll happily forgo the income in the interest of happy viewers
Not sure I entirely agree with the statement on EV vis ICE fires. Statistically you are correct, but what are the circumstances? Age of fleet, market share, weapon of choice. Revisit in 5 years time and let’s see. I know what sort of fire I would want to fight, if I had to. As for leasing, would a buyer intend to keep an EV for more than 3-5 years normally, or would they turn it over in that time frame anyway (lease or not)? Is this a good thing? Make me understand. Just saying.
They are both fabulous. For me the extra 50kW of the i30N is worth it. In the i20N you know the chassis could handle more grunt. Hatch for me. Also just be aware of the fuel pump issue that affects some i20Ns. Easy fix but needs to be addressed.
@@inCARnationAustralia thanks Stu, I'll have to go drive them both back to back. I like the idea of the i20n more. I would love to drive the new WRX too. The gr corolla and civic type r are just far too expensive
Not sure if it's all but you could well be right. I didn't see any Chargefox signage or branding so didn't even think to check. Might have saved myself a bit of time!
If you're a sporty oriented driver, I'm still a fan of the MG4 as value for money ever since the crazy price special they did in October. Even the entry level Excite 51. Worth shopping around for best price. Some dealer demo cars are well under list price. But if performance isn't a priority for you, I do like the BYD cars for their quality interiors and features. I haven't driven the GWM Ora yet, but it's also really sharply priced. A bigger car than it looks in photos.
Thanks. I got just 50kW at the Hunter Valley, which is I think the limit of that machine and also 50 kW at BP Asquith, where I was sharing a charger with another vehicle. The car is rated at a modest 80 kW max.
@inCARnationAustralia still, that is one clutz move I don't need to have as a possible. Oh well. The car has me split - if it's better features were combined with the Atto 3's better features...
not everybody can afford a an expensive EV so maybe it’s best to couch it in terms of this is a very affordable budget product for those on a limited budget that are concerned about the planet
@@inCARnationAustralia unfortunately the bottom of the market things like software tend to be overlooked even the hardware tends to be on the laggy side
I don't know of any indicators being on the right side of the car!!! Must be anAustralia thing. This car is perfect and a great price for what you get. Off course, like all others, there's just too many things to got hrough and learn.
It has a few redeeming features and it's reasonable value for money, especially if you can lease. So I can't be critical of your decision. Was I too harsh? Was I wrong about the interface? Can you find an equaliser (I think there's one on the EX but couldn't find it on the BX). Do you use the regen and is it as bad as I suggest? Love to hear your feedback.
@inCARnationAustralia I haven't picked it up yet. I get the BX late next week. I got it for teaching my son on his Ls and then as a gift when he gets his Ps. It has a centre head clash airbag and an LFP battery- which were on my list. I don't know as much as u about cars so maybe that is why I quite liked the drive. I will rewatch ur vid when I pick it up but for what's it worth, my Seal was off limits to my wife until it received an in-house software update- and then it was near perfect. I can see that happening with the E5. I enjoy your vids but please don't forget to have breakfast before u start recording 😉 😜
just use it and ask for software uupdates is available. i find this car is robust , built is solid and not causing problem here in my country. owners are happy and sales keep increasing
I'm surprised you even gave the car a break based on it's lipstick on a pig interior. All the actual interface and driving aspects of the car look incredibly annoying verging on dangerous.
By law in my state there are only a few functions that one is allowed to adjust on the screen while driving. Legally speaking one has to pull over to adjust things like Regen or lane keeping assist, unlike cars that provide button, switch or paddle-driven functionality. So you're not actually allowed to adjust a lot of these things while driving - which somewhat hurts their usefulness. Adding voice command funcationality that worked would be a help.
I would love to but believe it or not we haven't reviewed an Atto 3. Based on my experience with the BYD Dolphin though, which has a very similar user interface, I can vouch for the BYD in that regard. Based on what I'm led to believe, the road dynamics of the Chery might be a little bit better. But I don't know. I'll grab hold of an Atto3 and let you know.
CHERY is a budget brand no one in China boasts about CHERY. They are though essential to bring EVs to developing countries in Africa and Latin America, where they are doing very well.
@@inCARnationAustralia yes correct. Only that battery size available in Indonesia. And the test ever done with different Omoda e5 car also. link below shows it can reach 472km for 100 to 0% at 28:46 htt%%://youtu.be%%/Pxj0txLQ7eY?si=ICh1wiGFtfoqBx6K
Once I found the manual release cable that became my 'go to' method. It's like when an appliance freezes and refuses to shut down. There's a cathartic satisfaction in going "oh yeah, we'll see about that" as you yank the plug.
i never heard about this problem before and this car population in indonesia is almost 3800 unit . but never heard that charging gun stuck problem. better check wiith the dealer
I was trying to be nice but some other reviews I saw were annoyingly superficial that ignored what I found were important issues. The thing is - these can be easily fixed and then at the right price it would be a good car for many people. However I do like a lot of Chinese cars - I can't wait to drive the recent Zeekr and XPeng cars I had a brief introduction to. Even brands I didn't particularly like a few years ago are now excellent products. But yeah - I'm guessing no invitation likely from Chery.
I took a punt on MG when they first arrived in 2019 and yes the software etc was really poor but as the car was good value and generally good worked ok I bought. Look where they are today. After a couple of software updates was okish for first gen. I found the omoda graphic equaliser and sound positioning sensors somewhere in the sound settings. Who knows my next punt?
Hmmm are they making cars like they make most things: Has all the bells and whistles but not quite there in functionality? I appreciate the honesty and real review, all other channels simply present specs (which I can get from any of the car maker's website any time) and glowing positivity (basically just another salesperson), perhaps to get views 😢
I don't need a salesperson, I need to know how well everything works as well as the things that are not so great so I can weigh up whether it's something I can live with for a long time given the price point.
Please keep up this approach of showing us how well everything works.
LOL I’ve been researching electric cars for years and this video came up on my feed! Love the straight forward no bs approach. Going to watch some of your others now! “It’s a really good car if you don’t like cars” 😂
Hell of a review, loved it.
Hyundai with same size battery and equipment cost 2 times more in my country and yes you dont get bigger range in them .For sure not best car but now nothing better for the money .I have 2 BMWs (diesel X5 and petrol cabriolet ) and i love that 2 cars but almost always something wrong with them and repairs are super expensive (i will not even mention fuel consumption ) .So is more economically to just watched them in yard ,drive them sometimes and drive this cheap car as daily
In regards to the NRMA chargers you can activate them with a Chargfox RFID card or just use the Chargefox app. Chargefox calls this “roaming” but it all works just as a chargfox charger.
Tesla have the same issue/consequence if you forget that the right stalk is the gear selector and not the indicator.
Blinking Heck Stu! I hope you're getting plenty of $$$ for this video. Seems like there's an ad every couple of minutes, some of which you can skip, but others you have to wait out. I can tolerate a few ads, but this is a new test of tolerance.
Ah sorry to hear that. Ad placement is not something I've every tried to manage but I feel your pain. I'll see what I can do. And on future vids. My son recommends ad blockers. Maybe there's one suitable for your favourite browser. I'll happily forgo the income in the interest of happy viewers
Sheesh. You're right. I just went in and deleted half the ad breaks. I'll make that standard practice in future.
Not sure I entirely agree with the statement on EV vis ICE fires. Statistically you are correct, but what are the circumstances? Age of fleet, market share, weapon of choice. Revisit in 5 years time and let’s see. I know what sort of fire I would want to fight, if I had to.
As for leasing, would a buyer intend to keep an EV for more than 3-5 years normally, or would they turn it over in that time frame anyway (lease or not)? Is this a good thing? Make me understand. Just saying.
Gas?
To be honest I never feel the need to change regen settings in my EV. They stay on max all of the time.
Hi Stu, non ev question - what would you choose between an i20n or an i30n (hatch or sedan). Thanks!
They are both fabulous. For me the extra 50kW of the i30N is worth it. In the i20N you know the chassis could handle more grunt. Hatch for me. Also just be aware of the fuel pump issue that affects some i20Ns. Easy fix but needs to be addressed.
@@inCARnationAustralia thanks Stu, I'll have to go drive them both back to back. I like the idea of the i20n more. I would love to drive the new WRX too. The gr corolla and civic type r are just far too expensive
I thought all the NRMA chargers were on the Chargefox app these days?
Not sure if it's all but you could well be right. I didn't see any Chargefox signage or branding so didn't even think to check. Might have saved myself a bit of time!
Thank you so much for this comprehensive review! "This is a good car for people who does not like cars", this channel delivers yet again!
Hi Stu
Which budget electric car would you recommend buying in Australia?
If you're a sporty oriented driver, I'm still a fan of the MG4 as value for money ever since the crazy price special they did in October. Even the entry level Excite 51. Worth shopping around for best price. Some dealer demo cars are well under list price. But if performance isn't a priority for you, I do like the BYD cars for their quality interiors and features. I haven't driven the GWM Ora yet, but it's also really sharply priced. A bigger car than it looks in photos.
Great review but in the end I can't say I noticed what was the max charging speed you got.
Thanks. I got just 50kW at the Hunter Valley, which is I think the limit of that machine and also 50 kW at BP Asquith, where I was sharing a charger with another vehicle. The car is rated at a modest 80 kW max.
@@inCARnationAustralia 80kw is the max and it can be charged at 80kw
Omg I can't drive this if there is the slightest chance of confusing the indicator for the drive selector!
I did deal with it. I have to confess - did the demo largely for comic effect.
@inCARnationAustralia still, that is one clutz move I don't need to have as a possible. Oh well. The car has me split - if it's better features were combined with the Atto 3's better features...
Great review🙏
OK I'll cross this one off my list
good review
not everybody can afford a an expensive EV so maybe it’s best to couch it in terms of this is a very affordable budget product for those on a limited budget that are concerned about the planet
If they fixed the little software-related things I mentioned it would be a fine inexpensive EV, which we do need more of.
@@inCARnationAustralia unfortunately the bottom of the market things like software tend to be overlooked even the hardware tends to be on the laggy side
I don't know of any indicators being on the right side of the car!!! Must be anAustralia thing. This car is perfect and a great price for what you get. Off course, like all others, there's just too many things to got hrough and learn.
Whoops- I bought one.😢 (Melbourne)
It has a few redeeming features and it's reasonable value for money, especially if you can lease. So I can't be critical of your decision. Was I too harsh? Was I wrong about the interface? Can you find an equaliser (I think there's one on the EX but couldn't find it on the BX). Do you use the regen and is it as bad as I suggest? Love to hear your feedback.
@inCARnationAustralia I haven't picked it up yet. I get the BX late next week. I got it for teaching my son on his Ls and then as a gift when he gets his Ps. It has a centre head clash airbag and an LFP battery- which were on my list.
I don't know as much as u about cars so maybe that is why I quite liked the drive. I will rewatch ur vid when I pick it up but for what's it worth, my Seal was off limits to my wife until it received an in-house software update- and then it was near perfect. I can see that happening with the E5.
I enjoy your vids but please don't forget to have breakfast before u start recording 😉 😜
@@teslabot6517 What a generous dad. And yes, I was Mr Grumpytrousers for a while. But I overcompensated and ate too many carbs on the road.🍕☕🥧
just use it and ask for software uupdates is available. i find this car is robust , built is solid and not causing problem here in my country. owners are happy and sales keep increasing
Me too (UK) 😂
I'm surprised you even gave the car a break based on it's lipstick on a pig interior. All the actual interface and driving aspects of the car look incredibly annoying verging on dangerous.
By law in my state there are only a few functions that one is allowed to adjust on the screen while driving. Legally speaking one has to pull over to adjust things like Regen or lane keeping assist, unlike cars that provide button, switch or paddle-driven functionality. So you're not actually allowed to adjust a lot of these things while driving - which somewhat hurts their usefulness. Adding voice command funcationality that worked would be a help.
I didn't mind the interior. Even the fake wood was pretty classy. But I miss buttons. Give me buttons and knobs and levels and flappy paddles!
Can you give an opinion on how it compares to the Atto 3.
I would love to but believe it or not we haven't reviewed an Atto 3. Based on my experience with the BYD Dolphin though, which has a very similar user interface, I can vouch for the BYD in that regard. Based on what I'm led to believe, the road dynamics of the Chery might be a little bit better. But I don't know. I'll grab hold of an Atto3 and let you know.
I'll have a Margarita, Gin&Tonic, Advocaat Snowball, Pina Colada ..and umm a Chery Omoda! 🤪😝🤨
CHERY is a budget brand no one in China boasts about CHERY. They are though essential to bring EVs to developing countries in Africa and Latin America, where they are doing very well.
chhery is 5th largest vehiicle manufacturer in china and no 1 car exporter from china. chery also recognized for their good quality in china
In my country this car can exceed the range claimed until 460km
Was that with the same 61.1 kWh battery?
@@inCARnationAustralia yes correct. Only that battery size available in Indonesia. And the test ever done with different Omoda e5 car also. link below shows it can reach 472km for 100 to 0% at 28:46
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@@inCARnationAustraliayes, the same 61kw battery
annyoying things. Any issue with pulling out the charger - ever- is unacceptable. Far too annoying
Once I found the manual release cable that became my 'go to' method. It's like when an appliance freezes and refuses to shut down. There's a cathartic satisfaction in going "oh yeah, we'll see about that" as you yank the plug.
i never heard about this problem before and this car population in indonesia is almost 3800 unit . but never heard that charging gun stuck problem. better check wiith the dealer
Exactly it is quite simple, just approaching the car then the charger is unlocked.
@@hadisoewoyo8739he didn't do the right way.
Well you won’t be invited to China with reviews like this!
I was trying to be nice but some other reviews I saw were annoyingly superficial that ignored what I found were important issues. The thing is - these can be easily fixed and then at the right price it would be a good car for many people.
However I do like a lot of Chinese cars - I can't wait to drive the recent Zeekr and XPeng cars I had a brief introduction to. Even brands I didn't particularly like a few years ago are now excellent products. But yeah - I'm guessing no invitation likely from Chery.
They are all still very average. Nothing spectacular. It's cheap, & just throw it away when it packs it in . Way too overpriced for what they are .
At this price point, any euro, usa and japanese ev car can compete?
I took a punt on MG when they first arrived in 2019 and yes the software etc was really poor but as the car was good value and generally good worked ok I bought. Look where they are today. After a couple of software updates was okish for first gen. I found the omoda graphic equaliser and sound positioning sensors somewhere in the sound settings. Who knows my next punt?