I need a filter that will fit into a feature, but that feature hasn't been built yet. So This filter is being designed in reverse. Let me know what you think
This is going to be really cool to watch progress Fishman....hours drilling holes is actually kind of therapeutic right? That’s kinda what this whole hobby is about 😀😀
Awesome Idea @Fishman !... I have a few UG filters to do in the new year and they're charging $22 I think for UG filter sets (multiple rectangle ones) ... going to try a circ saw and 90 tooth thin kerf blade for my first acrylic foray... wish me luck :)... plz let me know if you anticipate any problems... You've lit my acrylic fire... thanks as always my friend. (Anxiously awaiting updates on this btw but don't straps your schedule.)
The base pipe holes should point DOWN in order to take advantage of a 360 degree dispersion and also use a bit of resistance to divert flow more strongly to vents farthest away from the input pipe. I worked with these in the late 70s and 80s and achieved all 0s in ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate testing with 1 1/2" inches of gravel and a 300 gph HOB filter loaded with polyester fiber as a first filter stage. Solids were extracted immediately in the polyester and only liquid waste was sent to the UG Filter. In that way solid waste could be 100% removed without disturbing the bio bed. There was never any detritus accumulation under the UG plate. Bear in mind that plants depending on roots for feeding will fare less well with a reverse flow UG filter because the water flow carries nutrients away from the gravel. One is advised to use water feeding floating plants like Water Wisteria rather than Amazon Swords.
Thanks so much for coming by and sharing your experiences with me. I won't be able to use a HOB on this build but they are a great way to add to an UG for sure!
To prevent acryllic from melting while you drill it, just wet it with water to take up the heat and go slow, so the tool doesn't get too hot. Works like a charm!
APOLOGIES FOR THE LENGTH OF THIS - DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO POST: Because you have experience with dozens of filters & configurations (I'm a subscriber but have never posted) you are the optimum guy to answer a theoretical question about flow & filter volume: If I configured a 55gal aquarium with complete under gravel filter system (two stacks-Penn Plax Premium Under Gravel Filter System - for 40-55 Gallon) and ensured about 1 inch clearance under the plates before gravel - and then added two "largish" breeding boxes (Marina 10943) configured as HOB filters with floss and lava rock in their chambers - would that provide enough water volume/water movement to support a community tank (not over-populated but not sparse either)? Say...half dozen congo tetras, half dozen rainbow fish, four angels and a smattering of platys and guppies. This is total planning - I haven't even purchased the aquarium yet - so, no rush! I'm kinda thinking that having two dual outlet air pumps (one under gravel and one HOB each) would be a clever way to mitigate pump breakdowns or reliability of the system(s). But I am concerned that the smaller pipes on these boxes and commercial UG pipes may not move enough volume or create enough flow for 55G....Thx
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch what I do here and to value my opinion on your project! That sounds like a perfectly viable setup for what you intend. Throw some plants in there and I can't see any problems with it. Flow isn't the most important aspect of a filter. Let me know how it goes
@@FishmanEricRussell Thanks so much - not to bug you further, but doesn't this look like a mini diatom filter just waiting to be charged? For occasional use only, to be sure. (if your bored with my questions - just ignore). www.amazon.ca/Reusable-Sediment-Filter-Purifier-Prefilter/dp/B07QQ47X3V/ref=pd_sbs_4?pd_rd_w=DsmQ7&pf_rd_p=3885b243-7797-4c4b-b0ae-97ca9ec36283&pf_rd_r=7AGPJPB4ET79ZWNY7QZR&pd_rd_r=b9244a92-ffaa-42da-b6d1-79c486984c7a&pd_rd_wg=BkzVV&pd_rd_i=B07QQ47X3V&psc=1
The reason I dont like UG filters is that if a tank gets a disease, there is too much organic material in the gravel filter that will interfere with the medication. I prefer an outside canister filter (which has a better flow rate to boot, options to add different mediums easily too), I can isolate and sterilize the canister medium very easily and quickly. The gravel in the tank that does not have an UG, is easy to keep clean and pristine as opposed to an UG. Sorry but UG filters are ugly too with all that muck in them as well. Parasites, columnaris bacteria love a dirty gravel medium to spawn and thrive, a clean tank is a healthy tank.
That's the funny thing about filtration, so many options and just as many opinions as to what is best. I always tell people do what works for you and whatever system you don't mind maintaining. Thanks for watching!
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Coming through to show support. Full watch and view!
It looks great. The whole build sounds like an interesting idea. I look forward to seeing how it all goes together.
Me too. Thanks for coming by!
Nice job thanks will be waiting. 👍🏻
Much appreciated!
Another interesting build! I can't wait to see how it come out.
Thanks so much Don!
Looking forward to seeing the whole build!
Thanks Richard!
This is going to be really cool to watch progress Fishman....hours drilling holes is actually kind of therapeutic right? That’s kinda what this whole hobby is about 😀😀
It's going to be a great way to start the new year. Thanks for watching guys!
Awesome Idea @Fishman !... I have a few UG filters to do in the new year and they're charging $22 I think for UG filter sets (multiple rectangle ones) ... going to try a circ saw and 90 tooth thin kerf blade for my first acrylic foray... wish me luck :)... plz let me know if you anticipate any problems... You've lit my acrylic fire... thanks as always my friend. (Anxiously awaiting updates on this btw but don't straps your schedule.)
Now you're talking my language Eric.
I like using Reverse UG, and have used it for decades :)
So glad you like it!
Nice. Looking forward to the complete build. Thanks Fred O
Thanks Fred!
Look forward to this build!
Thanks Sandy!
I like this idea
Thanks so much!
The base pipe holes should point DOWN in order to take advantage of a 360 degree dispersion and also use a bit of resistance to divert flow more strongly to vents farthest away from the input pipe. I worked with these in the late 70s and 80s and achieved all 0s in ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate testing with 1 1/2" inches of gravel and a 300 gph HOB filter loaded with polyester fiber as a first filter stage. Solids were extracted immediately in the polyester and only liquid waste was sent to the UG Filter. In that way solid waste could be 100% removed without disturbing the bio bed. There was never any detritus accumulation under the UG plate.
Bear in mind that plants depending on roots for feeding will fare less well with a reverse flow UG filter because the water flow carries nutrients away from the gravel. One is advised to use water feeding floating plants like Water Wisteria rather than Amazon Swords.
Thanks so much for coming by and sharing your experiences with me. I won't be able to use a HOB on this build but they are a great way to add to an UG for sure!
Well that looks pretty cool! Looks fun drilling all those holes
Thanks so much Ash!
To prevent acryllic from melting while you drill it, just wet it with water to take up the heat and go slow, so the tool doesn't get too hot. Works like a charm!
Thanks for the tip and for coming by!
looking forward to the next one
Thanks so much!
APOLOGIES FOR THE LENGTH OF THIS - DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO POST:
Because you have experience with dozens of filters & configurations (I'm a subscriber but have never posted) you are the optimum guy to answer a theoretical question about flow & filter volume:
If I configured a 55gal aquarium with complete under gravel filter system (two stacks-Penn Plax Premium Under Gravel Filter System - for 40-55 Gallon) and ensured about 1 inch clearance under the plates before gravel - and then added two "largish" breeding boxes (Marina 10943) configured as HOB filters with floss and lava rock in their chambers - would that provide enough water volume/water movement to support a community tank (not over-populated but not sparse either)? Say...half dozen congo tetras, half dozen rainbow fish, four angels and a smattering of platys and guppies.
This is total planning - I haven't even purchased the aquarium yet - so, no rush!
I'm kinda thinking that having two dual outlet air pumps (one under gravel and one HOB each) would be a clever way to mitigate pump breakdowns or reliability of the system(s). But I am concerned that the smaller pipes on these boxes and commercial UG pipes may not move enough volume or create enough flow for 55G....Thx
Thanks so much for taking the time to watch what I do here and to value my opinion on your project! That sounds like a perfectly viable setup for what you intend. Throw some plants in there and I can't see any problems with it. Flow isn't the most important aspect of a filter. Let me know how it goes
@@FishmanEricRussell Thanks so much - not to bug you further, but doesn't this look like a mini diatom filter just waiting to be charged? For occasional use only, to be sure. (if your bored with my questions - just ignore).
www.amazon.ca/Reusable-Sediment-Filter-Purifier-Prefilter/dp/B07QQ47X3V/ref=pd_sbs_4?pd_rd_w=DsmQ7&pf_rd_p=3885b243-7797-4c4b-b0ae-97ca9ec36283&pf_rd_r=7AGPJPB4ET79ZWNY7QZR&pd_rd_r=b9244a92-ffaa-42da-b6d1-79c486984c7a&pd_rd_wg=BkzVV&pd_rd_i=B07QQ47X3V&psc=1
@@joesam9094 I've always built diatom filters in canisters. I've never tried one with a plate.
The reason I dont like UG filters is that if a tank gets a disease, there is too much organic material in the gravel filter that will interfere with the medication. I prefer an outside canister filter (which has a better flow rate to boot, options to add different mediums easily too), I can isolate and sterilize the canister medium very easily and quickly. The gravel in the tank that does not have an UG, is easy to keep clean and pristine as opposed to an UG. Sorry but UG filters are ugly too with all that muck in them as well. Parasites, columnaris bacteria love a dirty gravel medium to spawn and thrive, a clean tank is a healthy tank.
That's the funny thing about filtration, so many options and just as many opinions as to what is best. I always tell people do what works for you and whatever system you don't mind maintaining. Thanks for watching!