Why You Get Rejected (+Student Infield)
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Girls reject guys for a lot of very obvious and very fixable reasons, so I've explored a couple of the most common ones here, along with student infield examples. This rejection footage is taken from The System and there's a lot more where that came from.
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More student infields like this would be great!!! It’s a lot easier to identify problems
Christian Romano true!
Agreed, the problem with watching Todd's infield is he is so smooth I feel like I can't be like that so I don't feel like I learn much because I just can't pull off what he's doing. But watching guys struggle and make mistakes and have Todd explain what they are doing wrong, is so much easier for me to relate to.
Agreed. I feel like Todd's infields are so smooth you can't even tell what he's even doing.
Christian wyd here😂
@@peterg3947 Watching these guys is stressing me out. It's difficult to see this to me for some reason.
Seeing Todd's analysis of beginner infield is actually more helpful to me than Todd's own infield. Because when I'm out I THINK I'm doing what Todd does and I don't understand what's going wrong, and seeing this is like - oh... that's what I'm actually doing. Those girls responses look really familiar.
The dude is masterful at teaching this
trial and error
In night game, RSD Julien Blanc > Todd VanDeHey, but god damn if Todd can't teach it so much more concisely. Unequaled.
Yes, but without master the inner game all these techniques are useless.
yesweepen As evidenced by a time that I was hanging with a chick while we were both naked and she positioned herself so I was literally between her legs and I still didn't fuck her, yeah. You're not going to fuck if your inner game is shot to hell.
animal0mother true that dude, I had a girlfriend years ago when i was a teenager that would want me to fuck her and i would be laying with her making out, and i would always get a phone call from my parents telling me to come home every night when i was at her house and she would be begging me to stay and i would sit there up to like 15 mins saying no i gotta go or my dad will kick my ass while in that time, every time i could of fucked her then left, but didn't because i was afraid to take my shirt off in front of people, i eventually fucked her...but with my shirt on lmao, 2 minutes in her friend comes to the door and interrupts us, and that was the first and last time i had sex fml
Takeaways:
#1 Get to the point (premise / man-to-woman) or else she thinks 1) you are scared of it 2) you are shady, manipulative or have an agenda
#2 Get to the point in a subtle way: you and the girl have some kind of relationship developping
Beginner mistakes:
*Tonality (ending the sentences like a question)
*walking behind her => creepy, uncomfortable for her, you following/chasing her; instead walk beside or in front of her
*question after question => putting her on a pedestal (=> you are low value, not interesting and a burden), asking her to provide interesting stuff instead of providing something interesting yourself, she has no idea who you are (is this a cool guy? what are his opinions?); instead make assertions, statements, opinions, teasing
*you need PREMISE (man-to-woman), e.g. "hey, you're interesting/cute", "we are not gonna get along" instead of platonic conversation... keep up the threshold for enough premise
*if you establish the premise too late, she has already decided that you are low value, a burden etc.
*if you start direct, don't switch to platonic conversation
Number #3 : Be ready for spouse and child supports and weekly family courts meet ups!
The first student video was so hard to watch but it was very necessary to see because it gives insight in a way of experience more than like reading a book fantastic Todd you just keep upping the standard this I don't know how but you are on to something man! Thank you and I think I speak for everybody when I say fucking thank you!!!
Hurrifan C. Yeah it was painful and cringy af. Much respect to them for having the balls, though.
Also a good reminder that everyone starts somewhere. I bet 90% of us starting out may have been much much worse than that :*). I remember starting out so bad I froze after my opens xD.
However in a way this does make it easier to identify what problems we all may be having and to see what to NOT do.
Mind Despot for sure kudos to them
Mind Despot Q
If you find it cringy it simply means you see part of yourself in it
that guy is obsessed with talking about yoga
Got a feeling that he likes to do Yoga and Therapy at the same time.
Lolol.. Thought the same thing! Hmmm... Yoga fetish?
😂😂
@@chrisossa2022 There's nothing wrong with yoga. It's a good opportunity to perv at women bending over in tight clothes.
yoga girls usually have their shit together or are married sluts.
I really like the "student infield" cuz they relate more to us normal pick up guys, cuz we make those kinds of mistakes as Well. Very creative Tod. It will really bring new clients with this material.
Wats the difference between a hot Yoga and Normal Yoga?
Girl: Hot Yoga is hotter.
😂😂😂😂
Hot yoga is juicier, is wet..is runny and lubricant...normal yoga is dry !
@@jackassfat And that's why you ain't getting no pussy
I would say smth lime: So its for hotter people or it is becouse of the heat?
I never get rejected at all..
cause I dont approach.
Cumpilations impressive ....teach me lol
Cumpilations I bet that’s the only way to never get rejected.
1.987.200 i thought i was going to click read more and read.... the chloroform takes care of that.... or some other terribly hilarious/inappropriate punch line
Just wait for them to come to you....BALLER!
Mr. I know
If you never shoot you'll never score. But you will also never miss. ;)
Yo wtf that's calfreezy at 0:05 😂 the odds of that happening
Haha yeah that’s fucking amazing, didn’t even notice😂
Same
Holy crap how you even recognize that guy. I actually had to look up the word calfreezy lol
No way
bro I thought you kidding HOLY SHIT
Wow, I remember watching this a year ago, and having no clue how to fix the students' situations, I was even worse than them. Now I could comfortably note the mistakes and have thoughts of my own about how to fix them. Keep working guys, and most importantly go out, and approach. If you don't approach it's a no anyway, but a no you'll never learn from. Oh and of course, thank you Todd!
learned more from this 20 minutes than from 6 hours of tyler rants
Humans calculate social interactions so quickly, when you can read the code in the matrix you are basically a super hero.
Great comment my friend how is your social skills journey going 5 years later
Amazing how Todd breaks it down on how to approach if your a Newbee or intermediate in game.
I think it's better to stop a girl if you can, if you normally walk relaxed and slow you are going to have to speed up to stay ahead of her, it looks and feels terrible, of course you can stop a girl, get hook point and then walk as now you can control her pace as she isn't just going to speed off
It's not easy cold approaching when you're a beginner without any prior experience. You need to establish the premise quickly, show her your personality, and keep things entertaining and engaging her. Questions are needed to get information, but can't be used too much. The girl will quickly judge your whole package, like appearance, body language and tonality, and make a decision whether or not she likes you enough to continue the interaction.
When Todd explains game everything makes sense and falls into place.
Do more student infield, I think it is easier to learn what you are doing wrong than what you need to do right
Man, I literally felt pain while watching Student infields... It was like jumpscares in cute kitten videos.
that guy dressed like Tommy from vice city lmao
Very insightful.... Just got out of a 16 year relationship and so I've been out of the game for so long, these videos are very refreshing and insightful...
TODD this is one of your best videos. Thanks. Day game, great set up, clear audible sets and perfect analysis. Agreed they make several basic mistakes. Neither seems to have any real character or emotion to speak of. Makes me realise I'm a lot better, probably due to a lot more experience. The first guy is also at a disadvantage due to his height compared to the girl. I rarely do walk withs, can't get eye contact. Better to do a front stop or stationary due to compliance. Or even better situational openers. Finding them is the tricky thing, you can't do them in a lot of shops due to cock block staff and most women hang out in women's shops.
I like how (from what i can tell) in Tods system the question isnt about direct vs indirect but of graduating from direct as a beginner to indirect at more advanced levels because it requires more subtlety...
better than RSD platitudinous content.
Better than RSD's platitudes.
Brevity bro.
Brain: u cant just approach her
Me: hold my anxiety.
I enjoy your comments and commentary on videos. From my two decades of trying to talk to women, getting dates, and getting rejections, what I have learned kind of aligns with what you teach and talk about.
Thanks por showing us some rejections as well, I'm kinda tired of seeing pure badass pickups, we all know that's pretty much unreal
It's a gold mine. This video = 500 kg of gold. I would love to see more student in fields than the advance game of anyone. So much to learn from such stuff.
I really like this video. I feel like I make a lot of these mistakes. I found Hearing Todd break these sets down was a lot more helpful than just watching guys who know what they're doing. Thanks for the video!
I love this kind of detailed social analysis. It's so detailed and spot on, and it relates to every aspect of social interaction, not just dating.
Super high value content. Its always good to learn from a master but equally you need to learn from mistakes.
Both times, the girl tried to walk super fast away from him. I don't think we should be overly analyzing this. Both girls have zero interest and they both wanted to get away from him.
yea but they could have still been flipped and got them interested.. that's the point.
Getting advanced comes with getting girls that are initially not interested from the start , interested.
Maybe they didnt care at all, maybe advanced game would have changed that - we dont know! Whats definitely true is that he comes across quite cringy and low value compared to someone like Todd (If you watch his infield for example). Its like another universe when you compare those 2 vibes - and girls will respond very different obviously!
Brian Da
''Getting advanced comes with getting girls that are initially not interested from the start , interested.'' - I'm not sure that's really possible. She needs that base level of attraction towards you before you can get her (like how Mark manson spoke about yes girls, no girls and maybe girls). Even Julien in his infields where a girl is initially super uninterested doesn't get the girls. The closest i've seen him 'flip' a girl was that rude LA girl who was basically ignoring him who he eventually got too at least smile, but he never banged her. You just can't force a girl to be attracted to you with 'game'
You need to become way more subtle than this. What do you mean with "base level attraction"? Is it that you are somewhat her type? Is it that you are not extremely ugly? It definitenly happens that a girl who was initially not attracted to you can become so through your personality/game etc. Not every girl obviously, there are some out there who wont give a shit about you even if you are super advanced in game - but denying that this plays a role is also very stupid. I have had women calling me "balding" or "weird looking" and I still banged them - it happens. There will always be a part of the social interaction you cant control but with a skill like game you can put the numbers MASSIVELY into your favor. You could argue that this one or some of Todds students are better looking/younger/more athlethic than him - but guess who gets the girl most of the time?
Love this page. Even videos of you are so sloppy, but that's how it is. It's not scripted James Bond movie interactions. And that's how ALL the other dating coaches teach it. This is real advice that I can actually implement. Cause I dont feel super personable all the time, and I dont exude confidence. But I don't need to. I can be natural, little nervous, not pumped or happy or whatever and still pickup chicks by having a simple conversation with a little bit of awareness of navigating the situation. So helpful and a relief too. If I go out 100 nights, maybe 10 of them I'm feeling amazing and confident and pumped and sociable. But I can be successful with this low key method. Good stuff.
Nice aphex twin usage
What's the name?
Xtal is the song name
totally unexpected - in a good way
I have zero game, I just can not do it. When I don't approach I don't get rejected, I don't want to feel like shit at the end of the day.
Davon Da_God lets do this together bro I’ll do approaches to and get rejected with you!
Damn that blonde in the intro tho
@cyb3rpunk 2077 his mom
she is my ex.
That's almost exactly what I do. But I usually bring up video games, movies or the environment around me to get an idea what type of person she is.
Thanks Tod. I'm gonna learn from mistakes. I love that your a coach that can simply, and clearly express the Dos and Donts in ways everyone can understand
Dude I literally had that Aphex Twin track open in another tab and couldn't figure out why it was playing... I'm pleasantly surprised Todd.
Good vid content Todd. Showing us actual breakdown of real approaches is very helpful. I notice that when I give a statement like " excuse me, hi I don't mean to bother you but I see you here and..( insert premise statement)." It seems like it may disarm them a bit and actually maybe look at you as empathetic to the uncomfortableness she feels that accompanies cold approach. You don't want her to feel your interview her for a job she isn't applying for w ?'s. Statement s are best, usually. In a way too many questions convey neediness. Also, validation is what we all seek. If she doesn't see the value in you validating her w your attention than she will dismiss you. That's why showing higher value behavior will make her want to get your validation/ attention perhaps prompting her to invest in the interaction. I' ve been working on this big-time in my life. Starting to see results after many references lol. I would love to be part of something like Todd does- like his team I mean. Anyways, im learning and just telling what I've seen work for me.
Dude, this is so fing hard, the whole pickup thing. I watched almost every video out there of yours, and others, and all of rsd, and even more after that, and I feel worse now than ever before. wtf I feel pain
I too feel your pain
Hey Todd. We really like you BREAKDOWN infield videos. This is really unique and usefull. Hope to see more of it in the future! It shows reference experience which are similar and I can immediately relate and correct by these videos. Thanks
As an African American, I feel like you should transcend knowledge beyond your skin color. That is how you achieve mastery. Great advice Todd.
You should make more videos like this. Great way to teach
Biggest social programming guys receive today that ruin their game and make a bad experience for women is "show your interest in them, show how much you think they are so interesting".
That is true once you have demonstrated you are a person who has value, a person who she wants to have interest in her.
Amazing content as always Todd keep it up ! I would like to say approaching seems very scary especially if you can't ask much questions and need to come up with statements, opinions, teases and stuff out of the blue.. that can be really hard especially if your nervous :( practice i guess.. !
It's coming home boys
But she's not coming home with this guy.
Robert Akerele imagine the scenes if England win ⚽️🥇🏆
For France maybe
The Senate that Belgium team tho, u never know what they can do
C’est vient à la maison
Respect the guy for going for it
I can now clearly see my mistakes in throughout each of the individuals. Time to go to work on this! Thanks Todd.
Your infield videos are extremely valuable. Thank you for sharing Todd!
Damn, how I missed your stuff till now? You are probably the only pua that can help me out of my "particular" condition...
Quick question: How do you avoid asking questions? What would be examples of things you would say that aren't questions?
I'm not sure, but a friend who is good with women once told me, talk about something that you think is interesting.
Statements, commands and exclamations
TheGkmasta thanks man!
Make assumptions and guesses instead of questions. Technically, any question can be turned into a statement: “where are you from?”--“you seem more like a Midwest type, so I’m guessing you weren’t born here”. Or “what do you do for work?--“I bet you’re a nurse or teacher, you have that vibe”.
Param Bhattacharyya I have tried this, but getting girls to jump in on anything intellectual is difficult, I find it better to think of something that you would talk to a five year old girl about, for example, Ponies.
Guys, value yourself....stop giving your value away. Don’t forget when your in the interaction. This is very clear when your new.
You are freaking awesome todd
I always say this
"I gotta go, I'm already late...but hey, I'm taking you to (the place for eat) so let me grab your number and I'll set something for us" this works for me and when it doesn't she says she has BF. And I've been with the girls who even had bfs and simply lie about it.
- Have premise. Lack of which is like watching a movie with no plot.
- Stop asking so many questions, lead the narrative
- Be aware of success barriers. i.e. Walking behind her thinking he didn't deserve to be there
in the intro there is a youtuber "Calfreezy" passing by and he didn't notice the camera so that proving Todd infield are professional.
Todd, I can't believe you put my favorite Aphex Twin song in the intro! Huge respect!
To be honest, I feel like the two students could use alot less lessons in game, and alot more in social intelligence...
J.Les Project Game lessons are social intelligence lessons...
Hahaha yeah that "what therapy" part killed me
Not only that, the second one needed to have had at least a year of business experience and PR experience before trying to pick up someone with such experience
War Is Wrong or he could divert form that premise all together and move I to another topic
Really loved the student infield breakdown; so interesting to see all the mistakes that I must have been making all these years!
You have to learn to be a good social person before learning game if not it’s just a waste of time
Joe might consider that seems like a good side hustle and those would be great benefits
Zachary Hodgson absolutely bro it helps a alot.
No you can learn it, but until you do it, you'll never really learn it
1. get to the point in a way that take account of her experience. that you and her have something special.
2. make more of statement than question.
3.make assertion rather than question.
4. its better to start with premise, and if you did you just need to maintain it.
5. walk beside & front rather than behind
6. rapport, share your story
7. dont portray playerish, make her feel its special.
8. more subtle and frequent premise
please post more student infields with explanation, there are amazing
I love how you jump up and down while explaining.
You remind me of Gordon Ramsey and his mannerisms when he speaks.
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Todd ladies and gentleman. Time to break the website once again
TotalWarish 💯
Aren't sentences like "Wanna grab a drink/coffee back at my place". Basically subtle invitations for sex or to get a little more intimate. She is inviting you to spend some alone time with her. Or if you invite her, she is okay with being alone with you.
This is the best video ever! THANKS. Please More student infields like this would be great!!! It’s a lot easier to identify problems
This video was golden, I'm surprised you gave away all that advice for free!! Can't wait to buy The System!
Awesome Todd. Love student infield breakdown, very helpful, snd your explanations are super clear
Being a salesman actually helps a lot with talking to women. I was horrible at it at first.
You got a Ig bro I want to discuss that more or a what’s app
thats's really a great stuff that you posted here. If you could post a series of mistakes that new rookies commit, can be a lot helpful to people like me. Thanks Todd.
I go up to women and literally say “hey I can’t take my eyes off of you” or “hey thought you were pretty cute” and then say “had to come say hi” then ask her name without volunteering yours to see if she has interest.
When he said “he doesn’t have to know” lmao yo she could see straight through the fake jock..she was like yea you got laid 5 years ago. This is good stuff
damn you're such a great teacher how accurate are you with all the details, it feels like you have learnt from those same mistakes and improve
I came here to like the video
I’ll watch it in a few minutes
As soon as the second woman said "That's sweet!" it was over.
this is pretty funny.... I think the simplest form of advice is, remember that you are the prize in these interactions.
I always said this" if you approach her and game her if she likes you she will help you
This is what 99% of guys doing pickup look like. Low value, cringy and generally unintersting - now compare that to someone like Todd and you have a direct explanation why so many guys cant do that. It takes no more than 5 seconds of infield comparing both and you have 2 completely different vibes/frames and OF COURSE reactions from the girls. This is something to aim for - imagine how much difference it would make in your life if you could add all those nuances to your daily interactions. How great could your life become? Find out: systembytodd.com/
This dude teaches me stuff that I somehow feel like I have known all my life.
You do know. We all know, but knowing and doing are different.
Hey Todd, i'd love to see a frame controll manifesto from you! That's in my eyes one of the few real key elements to pick up - yet it is rarely ever disussed
Just search TH-cam.. it's riduculous how there is almost nothing of quality available to cover this search term
The funny thing here, Todd, is that this video itself got to the point, rather than beating around the bush like some other pickup gurus..
I swear tod you know how to explain very well the game thanks homie keep it up 👍
You are not only good at game. You are good at teaching too.
Dont come off as random with no direction, and dont fire off things you know that wouldn't turn her on! - Noted!
I think you shouldve shown what to do as well
Basically every other video
you are right. I found the presentation very boring as it is cluttered with negatives. Generally I like Todd presentations except when it becomes too academic.
So random, but Calfreezy casually walking by the camera 4 seconds into the video lol
Impossible. You're going to get rejected eventually. Dude todd stop pushing tbis nonsense.
For daygame study "London Daygame Model". Just stop the damn girl!
Damn...This really hurts to watch but I'm loving this kind of content. More guys failing please!
summing this is.. mindfulness. this whole video is true mindful and beautiful layout of the concept.
Take a shot everytime todd says premise
you say you cant be too overt or too obvious with premise so how does JP make it work where he shows a lot of intent, over the top things just being straight up from the open? very curious
Todd. I think I speak for all of us when I say PLEASE PLEASE make the system AFFORDABLE. I guarantee if you keep it at $200 or under people will EAT THAT SHIT UP
You should tell us what the guys should have done instead. It's cool you're calling out all the stuff that isn't great, but it would be helpful to say "hey, this wasn't good. He's asking question, question question. Something he could say instead is ____ and that does _____ for him".
Exactly. He should have maybe gone point for point or showed examples of a statement to make instead of the question that was asked.
Walking up to random girls walking is hard already unless you guys have made prior eye contact and she seemed to find you attractive. This video leaves you with more questions after than before you watched the video.
yeah agreed, I would have liked to have heard some tips and what they could have said instead. Although I'd probably guess: less questions, more statements, observations, more humour. I find it really hard to get out of the questions mode of thought myself too so I can relate to these guys.
Newb here. Gonna go out and have some fun. Thanks for these vids and the free content. 🤘
Lol this video makes my approach anxiety even higher. I see myself being cringy like those guys were here. I had to stop this video multiple time because some moments were just too embarrassing
I'd be willing to bet an overwhelming majority of people saying this infield is cringe don't even go out. Why do you think so few people do cold-approach and the rate of failure is so high? It's hard and this is what most beginner's sets actually look like.
What I notice is that guys when they do these mistakes is that they really don't know how to approach and escalate... they are confused (and this may be to figure it out themselves).
Great infield brake down. please do more of these