Supermarkets In London Have Gone Insane
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I work in a discount store, and we were broken into this week. One guy broke our window, climbed in, and then proceeded to fill his bag with laundry detergents. The bloke even stopped to pickup a couple KitKats.
Edit: The police didn't even bother coming into the store. They've not attended 1 report we've done about shoplifting. So less than half just means 0.
The UK has fallen
@@dyslexicbatnam1350 Billions must scan receipts
@@dyslexicbatnam1350 Thanks to Tory politics.
But hey, at least those boomers making memes are getting arrested
@@World-WizardWords are violence after all
The news blurring out the faces of the shoplifters will always be funny to me. Reminds me of when the NYC police asked for help with an abduction case from the public but blurred the face of the victim and perpetrator. lol
Society is a lot more fragile than people think.
This.
weak men create hard times
Hard men create
@@owen8938 Weak times
@@grog159 boomer ass comment
recently moved to london, worst arrangement of 4 words ever seen
The crazy thing about needing to scan your receipt to get out is you have to press print receipt to get it because no receipt is the default option. 😄
@WhaleCostume Don't worry, we'll be able to use our digital ID's to exit soon 😂
@@daves6004 Technically you still are, if you pay by card.
Receipts automatically print at stores with receipt gates
@@ukhanddryers4:32 whether the printer isn't working or someone doesn't notice and leaves it/bins it etc. It's not sustainable.
At least in the Sainsbury's near me it automatically prints the receipt and has a screen at the end saying not to forget your receipt cuz you need to scan it
I live in an english village. Nothing has changed, butchers, bakers and grocers are all high trust and very friendly. Cities are cesspits, flee!
In the future the high trust villages will be subjected to the same "cultural enrichment" as the cities. It's already beginning to happen. Then where will you flee? The long term solution is not to flee, it's a complete moratorium on immigration, followed by remigration.
Don't scare him. Let him enjoy the peace for a while longer. Do keep an eye out for any local farmers selling their land or a new housing development going up on the outskirts of the village- then it is time for concern.
How long do you reckon before suburbs/small villages on the outskirts of Manchester are subject to this as there isn't any room here for new build developments, and there's also a moderately high number of "enrichers here" but I don't feel unsafe at all yet. @@Danbotology
I saw this whilst stopping in Oxfordshire too recently. Had to scan your receipt to open security doors to leave. It's my new metric of identifying how nice an area is - how much security are in their supermarkets?
these have been quite common in europe for years from my experience! the UK was just behind the rest (as normal)
@@tomatofeind2019 It's based on demand. The stores have the data on how much revenue is being lost through shoplifting, and when it's worth it they spend the money on these mitigation features. I don't think it's a case of anywhere being "behind"
have never seen that in Austria
but what'll you do when you don't buy anything?
Ain't they usually for self serve, which makes sense
@@YMandarin you leave the store through the exit lol. you don't have to go through self-service check out to leave the store haha
'walks in looking for something'
'store does not have it'
'I try leaving'
'gets locked in'
Me: "AAARRRRGGGGGG
Recently came back to London from the countryside of Japan... big contrast in supermarkets 😮
Big contrast in conviction rates also
@@Halloumillalalloumiallaa and politeness and manners
People in Japan are like robots. When I was there I was arrested (later release without any charges) because I was a foreigner waiting outside a house. Yeah, they saw a white man standing outside a house in a small town and tried to arrest me for it. They have many insane Draconian laws and rules in Japan, it's not a perfect country. The Japanese can be vey authoritarian or submissive to authority. They don't appreciate freedoms as much as western cultures.
i wouldve stayed in japan honestly
@@TAAIANDTAQI And Sushi quality
Take me back, please, take me back
just go to anywhere that isn't a major city
Where you gonna go... where you gonna hide... there's no where... because there's no one like you left...
To about 1975. Or even 1985. Heck, even 1995.
There's a "security theater" aspect to all of this too. There's a supermarket chain here that requires you to give your receipt to a security guard just before you exit. They don't actually look at the receipt, or the stuff you have. They just take it, mark on it with a highlighter, and send you on your way. So you could give them the wrong receipt, or sneak an item you didn't pay for into your cart, and they wouldn't catch it. Sometimes they don't even bother to stop you to mark your receipt; you'll be handing it to them, and they'll wave you through... So their job is to be a tough-looking glorified pencil. And sometimes they don't do the glorified-pencil part.
at walmart in the us, there are similar receipt checking attendants. however, most don’t stop you if all of your items have already been bagged since they assume the cashier has bagged them for you or you went through self-checkout. if anything was too large for the bag, they will stop you
i’m not sure how thorough they’re really told to be, but it usually takes just a couple of seconds of comparing your receipt to the cart before they let you go on. no marking the receipt or anything. they probably just look for anything outstanding like only paying for 3 items but having a full cart of stuff, but it could be completely superficial- i’ve never had them stop me from leaving or anything
Here they have the ability to scan the receipt and items but most the time they too lazy or saw you pay so they let you go without it
Here in France they ask if you want a receipt, if you say no you don't get one and can walk out the door without one, nobody checks anything.
You talking about Costco? They’re not really there to check the receipt. They’re there to make sure no one without a membership sneaks in through the exit and eats all the free samples.
@@oakleyvesAt Walmart, you're not required to show your receipt at the exit because it's not a warehouse club that charges for membership.
I hate those barriers, by design they are there to force you to buy something, you don't always go into shops with the intention of buying a lot of things, you go in looking for one specific thing they might not sell, for example, I was in a Tesco's the other day looking for photo frames, that was the entire reason I was there, they didn't have the size I needed so now I'm stuck in the shop until I can provide a receipt for items I don't bloody want.
Isn't it only self check out though?
You’re basically describing the cost of committing a crime. It’s a function of the likelihood of being caught and the punishment for getting caught. You can either increase the likelihood of being punished or the severity of the punishment.
In the US, the stores have gone to the extent to have locked cases with deodorant and shampoo in it. You have to try and call an employee over to unlock the case, but that can take a while in understaffed stores. Running to the store to pick up toothpaste can turn from a 5 minute stop to 15-20 minutes in many cases. I’ve started just going to Amazon for toiletries because all the locked cases have made physical stores inconvenient.
In the tech section they unlock the case then walk you over to the tech section specific checkout area for me
Increasing severity of the punishment doesn’t work tho- hence why there is still no evidence that the death penalty works to deter crime.
Weird though it may seem I told my long-term girlfriend we were definitely not moving into together where she currently lived, in large part because of needing to get employees to open cases for basic goods in the city's Walmart and other stores. I could not in good conscience bring up a family in an environment like that because of the kind of message it sends about the local population
Bruh, they locked up the batteries at my local Safeway. And we're in a decent area. Guess who's going to Target instead and not giving Safeway any battery sales? 🙋♂️
I live in a rural part of Norway, and even here in small towns where nothing ever happens we still have barriers in some supermarkets where we have to scan our receipts to exit. It's never really bothered me though.
it is to make sure you have paid at self checkout, I still like it better without gates
@@ldn876 In the Netherlands all grocery stores have a tiny gate atvself checkout so it seems normal to me.
I don't see why toycat is complaining tbh
@@wolfzmusic9706 probably because they install it becouse of crime, and not because it was normal
@@МихаилоМитић I'm British though and I'm completely fine with it. It doesn't make the shopping experience feel like more hassle
Those gates are quite common here in the Netherlands but only at the self-scan counters. You have the option to choose between a long receipt, a small receipt with just the barcode, or a barcode in the store's app if you're using it. Apart from that, I haven't seen any other security measures like these.
Ironically, I get the sense people only feel more justified in stealing. Especially with the insane increase of price hikes and shrinkflation
Also the more people steal the more acceptable it becomes, nobody wants to be the one schmuck respecting rules everyone else has torn up.
I think this goes doubly when the people breaking the rules are your supposed leaders.
The thumbnail is coles from Australia
Holy shit these exist in Australia?
@@sickman112 mainly in urban areas
@@jeffkaplentm that counts out Perth then
@@sickman112 Yep - had them in a Coles in Melbourne last time I went there!
Yes, they are at most Coles in urban areas. Coles being one of the two major supermarkets in Australia, with Woolworths (Woolies) being the other, these are not installed at Woolworths to the best of my knowledge. This is a decline present in the entire western world, not just in the United Kingdom.
I was surprised how much shoplifting was happening in plain sight and daylight in Calgary, Canada when I was there
Any idea why it’s so bad in places like that but fine in many non-Western countries?
when you import the 3rd world you get the 3rd world
Cultural cohesion
@@oboonkero326 what do you mean by that?
In India if you shoplift the storekeeper will hit you and call the police then the police will also hit you
@@edwardjosephxthat makes sense
What if you didn’t buy anything and therefore have no receipt?
I've shoved through those gates many times they are easier to get through than transit gates even
Ask the clerk
Buy something cheap to avoid having to speak to someone, obvs.
Walk through a normal checkout line
Call the police for being detained
If people all acted in the wider interests of society, then we wouldn't cave in to any supermarket deals nor have clubcards.
how about if governments acted in the wider interests of society too, would also solve these problems
@@thesaintnoodle Sure, but the aim of customers is to pay fair prices for fair goods. Nothing too complicated
What is good for society is not as clear, whatever you may think.
And if you think you have the answers then you should become a politician. If you have the solutions for society's problems, why are you standing by while politicians continue doing what they do?
@@samuelmelton8353 ... your point only stands when prices are fair. currently, the prices for a lot of things are not fair.
also how do you know if i am or not "standing by while politicians continue doing what they do"? can you see who i am, what i do, and my entire history of everything i've ever done through a fucking youtube comment or something? insane.
@@thesaintnoodle
_'your point only stands when prices are fair.'_
- No, my point is that the generally accepted interest of customers is to get a fair deal - I'm not here suggesting whether or not that happens. Please read what I've written properly.
_'also how do you know if i am or not "standing by while politicians continue doing what they do"?'_
I don't - but chances are you are not a politician. Possibly a parish councillor, but there simply aren't that many politicians who are going to be in the comment section of a toycat video.
_'insane.'_
I've simply responded to your comment, calm down, get some fresh air, you sound loopy.
@@samuelmelton8353 you did not help your comment by saying i sound loopy. i'm totally justified in rejecting your baseless assumption of my character, now even vindicated.
and even if i misread the vague writing of your reply, how exactly are the people supposed to gain control of the prices? the cards are stacked against the people in such a way that the government are the only ones who could step in and try correct the balance. voting for a party does not guarantee this unless they have a plan for such, petitioning is subject to compromise and even outright rejection and boycott is neigh impossible considering many people rely on supermarkets to survive. as i said, the cards are stacked against the consumer.
In new Zealand cheese costs like 11 dollars for like 600g sometimes,
Yep the new Countdown (screw calling them Woolworths) cheddar cheese block is the best value I think
Wait a year or two and the price will double, or even quintuple
i can understand the cheese bandits with those prices lmao
NZ dollars are worth half of what GBP is. so rly thats 5.5£ which is expensive but if u consider how far it was imported. id agree thats high for local stuff though you guys should have dirt cheap aussie cheese surely
@@OsirusHandle It's not imported. We are a dairy exporter ffs.
The thumbnail (the one I was served with, don’t know if there’s multiple) is actually Coles, an Australian Supermarket, I know that because I noticed these gates were newly installed at my self checkout at my local store, although the picture is not my local store. And the thing is you don’t even scan your receipt, they just open when you pay, and close once they detect someone walk past, so it does nothing, except for a mild intimidation/sense of security… physiological effects.
The exact same gates are here at Safeway in San Francisco, except there’s an attendant who opens it for you after looking at your receipt
Psychological * :D
There is a computerised tracking system which 'watches' you from the checkout to the gate. The gates open based on whether it 'thinks' you've paid for your stuff.
I've just looked into this a bit more.
Apparently cameras also track you inside the store, watching as items are selected from the shelves.
From a recent news report -
"Coles has defended its checkout surveillance methods after a shopper photographed what some deemed a “dystopian” number of cameras installed at one of its stores.
The photograph, which was posted to Reddit, featured dozens of cameras at the check out area of a store in Victoria."
it’s almost as if you charge 70% more for no reason people don’t want to pay for the pleasure of doing the checking out themselves
Interesting video.
Now let’s check the comments-
All automatic gates can be pushed open either way with a light-moderate amount of force, depending on gate model. They'll either beep or let off a siren sound for a few seconds, before automatically resetting
You know you're well and truly on your way to peak diversity when the receipt scanner doors are put in.
My local store has one of those gate barriers at the entrance, too. You can only pass in, can't go back out. The annoying part (beyond the fire safety inconvenience - it's probably programmed to release if the alarms are triggered) is that there are sale displays and all the shopping carts and baskets on the outside of that barrier. If you change your mind about needing something to carry your selections, or you actually did want that sale item and it isn't somewhere else in the store, you have to go out the exit and come back around. Inconvenient but doable if you're shopping with a buddy. Impossible if you're shopping solo.
Step 1. They got rid of cash registers at the front of the store, added them in the middle, and used self-serves. Step 2. They got paranoid because of it. Step 3. They made customers feel like they're criminals.
Why not just have police that arrest people?
@@dioniscaraus6124Because we have no jail space because the conservatives increased sentence length and didn’t build more prisons (thanks Tories)
@@Anonyomus_commenter
Don’t worry the labour party released everyone early to make space for the thought criminals.
I made shopping in M&S 3 years ago. Having paid for everything I left the store in a hurry because I was late somewhere. The store workers ran after me thinking that I must've stolen something just because I left so hurriedly. They jumped on me from behind, ripped my shopping bag out of all the food I had bought and ripped my £150 new coat. And I never got any reimbursement or anything, those bullies just continued to work there. This is how innocent people get treated even though they haven't done anything. And they had no right to run out of the store and grapple me to begin with and rip everything apart that was in my shopping bag and ruin my coat. They are bullies and innocent people are being victimized and never get any justice back.
Imagine having an anxiety disorder that pushes you to get in , get your sht and get out. They'd incorrectly assume you are stealing, and that would be discrimination too.
thats actually so screwed up what the hell i hate this country bro
You should have sued in the Small Claims Court. For a number of reasons, I will never shop with woke M&S - ever again.
The further time progresses, the more I understand the idea of thieves having their hands removed.
I appreciate your compliments at the end Toycat. Liked the video for that alone
The Whitechapel sainsbury gates aren't even at the exit, but after the self serve registers. You can easily walk in, take some stuff and leave through the front door. The gates are just an unnecessary inconvenience for those who actually pay. Thankfully they have left them open the last few times I've gone.
Fun experience: One day an employee of a store instructed me to use the multiple item option to avoid having to read the bar code of every single item of the same product.
The day I used that option for the first time to buy 9 items of the same product (oatmeal bags) I was stopped in the street by the two plainclothes cops who had got down a moped. That was over a quarter of hour after I had left the store and painstakingly searched my rucksack for any possible lifted items for over 5 minutes.
They also asked all sort of personal questions and phone called to other cops to verify my description and identity. One of the cops even asked whether the receipt I showed them to prove I had lifted nothing may have been issued on a different date and they asked why I had bought so many items of the sane product.
In a different but similar occasion, another cop asked why I had walked to a grocery store 2 km away from home to buy stuff.
I’ve been stopped in the street by cops so many times that if they gave 20 p for each time, I could buy at least one liter of that extra-virgin olive oil.
At Walmart recently, I bought three things, with a total cost less than $20, and each thing required a security unlock. (Caffeine pills, a USB drive, and I forget the third thing.)
The McDonald's in Leeds city centre has a security guard who tells you to take your hood down. What am I gonna do? Steal ketchup packets?
Briggate the pedestrian bit on the corner?
@@TayWoode yes
@@WeAreNotExperts2007 thought so 😂 it’s to stop the fights that happen in there, not anyone stealing, three guesses as to who’s fighting 🤷🏾♂️
Broken Windows Theory. We're spiralling into a state of decay.
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU MOVE TO LONDON?!? LOL
I love it here :)
@@ibx2catcap
THINK OF THE ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES THAT LONDON GIVES YOU. YOU, TOO, SHOULD MOVE TO LONDON.
@@jendoreilondon fucking sucks and living there rots your brain and turns you into a prick
@@jendoreiAs a swiss I think it's scary that there are cities with more inhabitants than my entire country. Our biggest city (Zurich) doesn't even have half a Million -inprisoners- inhabitants
I think this is a trend that will only go further as income inequality increases and a gradually larger amount of people are priced out of home ownership or even renting. Unless we as a society decide to tax the wealthiest 1% effectively, and deal with the housing shortage, society will continue to descend into chaos and lawlessness.
Taxing the top 1% doesn’t magically make more real goods available for everyone. It doesn’t even put more money in your pocket, it puts it in the gov’s pocket. May as well just print more money.
Only seen this partially in Nottingham, but it was everywhere and heavily enforced when I visited Sofia, Bulgaria. It was a huge shock to me entering a shop for some cheap meat and bread for lunch, only to realise we walked into a more expensive shop, tried to leave and were locked behind barriers - requiring a barcode to reach the exit / entrance. They even had active security on all of the gates, which would stop people from squeezing through or walking through with someone else. Had to settle on buying the cheapest useful item we could find to get out, a 1.5 litre bottle of cherry aid.
That picture in your thumbnail is actually from Australia. Coles (one of our main supermarkets) has them and that photo is from a Coles.
Yeah and no security boxes in Australia. At l’est in grocery stores. Meat have a small security tag and that’s it. Some shops have a security device for expensive item but that’s it.
I saw those Supermarkets with receipt scanners to exit EVERYWHERE on holiday in the Netherlands
The shops just add the losses to the prices so we are all paying for shoplifting. Well some of us are… it’s a downward spiral.
Ironically the ones who do steal are _not_ paying for shoplifting because they are not paying _at all._ It's like piracy vs non-piracy. Pirates don't pay the price the corporations enforce on everyone else who pays.
I have some insite about if security follows random people or not.
This info comes from my partner and Is combined experience wirking a general mangers and store managers for places like Home Depot, Target, and petsmart.
In both of our experience they are the farthest from random. A team member can get squally call to have a specific person watched around the store if they think something is suspicious. Depending on the store and how busy it is plus how many security are working often when an employee calls it goes to the command center where they have people watching store cameras. So every move is being watched but you d have no choice idea.
Also, most last business like I mentioned let you walk out on purpose. Most places have facial recognition software built
In, it keeps a tab or what you’ve stolen to the dollar amount, b cause at least where I live they wait until you’ve stolen the dollar amount needed to go from misdemeanor to felony.
Target specifically is a company you should NEVER steal from. They were ahead of the game game with all
This stuff almost a decade ago, I’d be terrified to know how much better it
Advanced hoodie and mask technology makes it all worthless
@@dioniscaraus6124... Which is why I'm many UK stores and all UK banks customers are not allowed to wear hats, crash helmets, etc; and those wearing hoodies will be told to put the hood down or leave immediately.
Even my mum at the age of 80+ was made to take her helmet off (she rode a small motorbike) in Banks and stores.
@@trueriver1950 I don't think stores in the UK are using facial recognition. GDPR basically makes it impossible to store any biometric data, there are so many regulations that are very hard to comply with. There are even currently discussions about a total ban for 5 years on collecting facial recognition data until more regulations are put in place. You can easily find out if a business (or even a government agency) has your biometric data too (or any personal data), simply send them a GDPR data request and they have to provide you with all your information within 30 days. I've done it a bunch of times, including to the police, I am in Ireland though so it's possible GDPR is different in the UK but I don't think so.
My receipt barcode wouldnt open the Sainsbury's gate last time I visited. I just pushed the gate and it opened and started beeping loudly. No-one batted an eyelid, even the security guards.
I was at Walmart (Canada) twice last week and both times the exit gate was just constantly beeping. No one had fixed it yet 3 days later when I was there the second time. I'm not even in a small town! I'm in my province's capital city.
That really doesn't surprise me, the staff are probably used to it
The supermarket I work in has actual deputy sheriffs' on duty. Plainclothes watching the cameras on random day and a uniformed one at the door 5 evenings a week. One time the former tackled a shoplifter (who turned out to have felony warrants), another time the uniform guy broke a dog out of a hot car in the evening and later took an employee who was having chest pains to the hospital. Those are the incidents that stand out.
EDIT; we still have the tooth-whitening strips sitting on open shelves close to the doors. In another location, pre-covid plastic shields, the pharmacy had back shelves within reach of anyone who wanted to grab and run. I suggested they put the colonoscopy purge there, nobody'll steal the unkool-aid.
Fun fact:
Food bank (poorer families can get donated food) usage in the UK has increased by 1,200% since 2010.
Homelessness has increased in the UK by 120% since 2010.
The Conservative UK government enacted austerity (the defunding of public services and decrease mf public spending) in 2010.
Deaths by drug addiction in the UK have increased dramatically in all age groups (excluding people under 20 and 70+) since 2010.
We’ve seen record numbers in child poverty rates and in-work poverty rates in the uk.
People stealing things to resell them might need to pay or supplement their income to provide for themselves and others. People stealing might have addiction problems.
Tories💪
addiction isnt an excuse
@@joda7129
Agreed, it’s not an excuse.
Addiction is a medical condition that can be either (or both) a psychological disorder or chemical dependency and it means that suffers are afflicted with an irrational and biological dependency on substances/behaviour. Withdrawal symptoms from severe chemical dependencies can and do kill people. We’re not talking about a lack of self control because of poor character, but an absence of self control within medically recognised disorders.
I should invite my french and chinese friends to throw a "britain is so over" party
I wonder what group of people are disproportionately using the food banks
Stolen items are not typically just sold on the streets, They are more often that not sold on websites like amazon.
For the low income and generally shafted among the us, Stealing and selling on products is more of an income than just begging and hoping will ever be.
The fine for failing to show a valid ticket on TfL is £100 now.
Hey, found you on the Conquer Driving channel! :D Just subscribed - it looks like cover interesting topics.
Also a Londoner here in my 20's with a younger sister who works at a Co-op which literally gets robbed or shoplifted every day. It's worrying.
Personal take: Our government and justice system are disgraces. It's decriminalised to steal less than £200.00!! Britain needs to snap out of its "loyalty" and misguided enchantment with the duo-party status quo which has enabled this and put someone in charge who will put their foot down.
We don’t need someone who will put their foot down, we need someone who will fix the cause of basically every crime (poverty). We should aim to be more like Norway than America- one with a very compassionate justice system (and low crime rates + super low reoffending rates) and the other with a very punitive justice system (fairly high crime rates, very high reoffending rates and 20% of the entire world’s prisoners)
@@Anonyomus_commenter I would agree that out approach needs to be more like Norway's, for sure, but we need to have proper disincentives for crime and part of "putting one's foot down" entails the sheer commitment and resolution to tackling the problem rather than the government's current seemingly apathetic (and indeed just pathetic) mismanagement of the justice system.
Whitechapel is my local sainsburys, the multistory was knocked down because they sold some land to a developer. The multistory was only ever temporary due to crossrail using part of their carpark land
I’m starting to think Toycat really likes making these videos, which is great for me because I love watching them.
I hate those gates at Sainsburys, Ive been trapped in them despite not being a robber so many times its getting beyond a joke
As a Londoner who “bumps” the train daily and occasionally shoplifts, there’s no such thing as “getting caught” the police don’t show up and when they do (which is rare) they don’t care as long as your not causing any harm
you are the worst in society
You should see what its like in America. When i was on holidays everything was locked behind this plastic glass and you had to get a worker to open it for you.
The reason you can't see street view of canary wharf is because if you did you'd find torchwood 1. Doctor who says it was destroyed but that's what they want you to think.
This kind of stuff is happening in smaller cities like Glasgow, my assumption has been that these security measures plus the increase in shoplifting accounts for less than the wages they’ve saved by drastically reducing their staff, in a big supermarket you used to get 10+ checkout staff, now at peak times you’ll see 3
As a German, that's really weird. The only thing locked in German Supermarkets is the High-End Whiskeys and Champagnes, but that's about it.
I know two of our Low-Budget (But still great) Supermarket Chains also exist in London: Aldi and Lidl. They don't have anything locked away in Germany at all because no High End Whiskeys and Champagne there, do they in London?
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
Depends where you live, I highly doubt nothing is locked in Berlin.
As a fellow German... razors, perfumes, booze, electronics have been locked away since I can remember. Also, opening a barrier with a barcode on your receipt has been a thing since the introduction of self checkout here, at least in some chainstores (Kaufland, real).
@@wateo1782
Ah that explains it. I guess then Berlin has a Problem with Thieves. I'm often in Munich and Frankfurt am Main and never seen such Items locked away there either
@@xaverlustig3581
Seems to be a Topic on where you live in Germany. I spend most of my Time in Bavaria and Hessen. Never seen anything locked away in either State, even in the Big Cities like Munich and Frankfurt am Main.
Interesting to know that there seems to be a huge Issue with Thieves in other States
Literally nothing is locked in supermarkets outside of London
Go to any Tesco in a normal town, and the alcohol is simply on the shelf like any other product.
2:30 this system makes complete sense for self checkout, which you pictured. At least in my country, you're not locked in, because you can just walk past the regular checkout.
So unless some stores have completely gone away with regular checkouts, this criticism is silly.
I work in Waitrose & Partners in Dorking, Surrey and we had our security guard taken away as we’re a “low risk store”. Ironically, I constantly hear and see people walking out without paying for their shopping and there are zero security measures. We normally have our duty managers following around people with alcohol to make sure they’ve purchased it.
You think people just decide to become drug addicts, toycat?
I hope they don't
You think being poor means you revert to childhood? Your bank account gets low and suddenly you become incapable of understanding that choices have consequences?
@@mushyroom9569- please explain how these people are meant to live?
Give up their avocado toast and they can buy a house, eh?
@@danielcrafter9349 Be poor and don’t stick needles into your arms, simple. There are far more lifestyles than just junkie or wealthy boomer retiree.
You can ram through those barriers with the trolley. I do it quite often as the scanner doesn't always work with the receipt.
@KiraKovalyova Exactly my view on it. Why should I waste my life waiting for somebody to let me out when they have no right to confine me.
They aint got scanners in my local morrisons but they do have barriers that are just quite poor, sometimes they open by the time you get to them, other times you walking into them because they don't open fast enough and then an alarm sounds. I've had one just not detect my presence so I forced it open.
I'd say give it a few months and they'll all be broken in one way or another, they don't even work well as is...
The only thing that will result from this is that stores will close. San Francisco and the closure of their downtown is staggering and it’s caused mainly by theft (of course other factors apply too) but that’s the next thing that will happen and people will be left with nothing.
At one time, you brought a list to the grocery store, and then workers in the store fetched the items for you. Looks like this is the direction in which we are headed.
I remember a shop in Northern Ireland was like that in the 80s like a bank with a big glass bullet proof panel or a petrol station at night, they put the stuff in one of those drawers after you’d paid
I've got a great idea! How about putting PEOPLE on the tills!!!??? 😂
Indeed, good point.
So glad I fled from the UK. It is showing obvious signs of societal collapse.
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A lot of people seem to think that shoplifting is morally acceptable because big companies have big profits and I really disagree. I'm never gonna hold someone stealing food or drink when they have no other means to get it as morally failing but people who think its ok to just steal because there's a wealth disparity do bother me. You don't fix wealth disparity with petty crime, you fix it with legislation - or some act of global financial ¿terrorism/disruption? like in Mr. Robot.
Yes, trying to fix a wealth disparity by doing things like that creates the wrong incentives by rewarding antisocial behaviour that ultimately takes from society instead of giving to it, in the end shoplifting doesn’t fairly distribute wealth but just makes things more expensive and difficult for people who don’t shoplift
Yeah because legislators are soooooo concerned about wealth disparity. This point is fine but it’s ridiculous to suggest that theres a way to fix this under our current system
@@hergasson1939Depends on what you mean by “our current system”. A sufficiently moderated capitalist system can work, but not a neoliberal one.
Most shoplifting is not by folk who would otherwise starve, but by those intending to sell the food on at low prices on the pub later.
In my area, the police will not attend a shoplifting complaint by the store if the total haul is under £80. So those genuinely starving just get banned from future access (across the store network, they take photos and distribute them).
The only people who get taken to court are those stealing in quantities where it seems unlikely to be for personal use for them and any family.
@@trueriver1950 If your primary income stream comes from selling stolen food at low prices, you probably class as someone who would otherwise starve
What if you go into Sainsbury and don't end up buying anything? Surely this is illegal to detain people against their will?
Happened to me when I only went for avocados and a girl ran up to check my bag as I was leaving and I told her that’s twice she’s done this to me, probably coz id been to the gym and was in trackies and I’m mixed race 🤷🏾♂️
I could never live in a major city anymore. I love visiting and am planning to go to Prague, Vienna, and Budapest soon. But especially in the west and the US in particular the benefits don’t outweigh the downsides
If i see this in supermarkets for proof of payment to leave, ill go somwehere else
They definetely have legal right to stop you from leaving, so ill just climb over.
Regarding the point about needing a receipt with a barcode you can scan as you leave the store, the machine still prints out a very small piece of paper with just the barcode in my local stores, if you don't ask for the receipt, it just doesn't include anything you would expect from a receipt, like what you have bought, where you bought it and for what price.
I can confirm that I was in Tesco yesterday and my experience wasn't anything like this. That said, I don't live in London.
I did loss prevention for a US department store the summer after I graduated high school. If someone evaded us a few times, we’d switch from trying to catch them to just watching them when they came in and building a profile. Once we had video of them stealing a couple thousand $ in merchandise, they get a felony.
At first I was like "Why did he pronounce Filet without a silent T?!?!?" then I remembered he's not French.
2:10 Wait, THAT'S WHAT THAT IS??!!??
One of those was implemented in my local Morrisons & I always assumed it was just some sort of metal gate that would automatically open, except that it didn't open straight away most of the time. I thought I would have to walk towards it in a particular tradjectory for it to open, because the system used to open the gate was buggy or stupidly pedantic or something.
I hate how we live in a low trust society, but I guess that's the price we pay for mass immigration that nobody actually asked for.
I agree with this for people who can afford to buy groceries at full price. However, most people aren't going out of their way to buy half-off olive oil just because they can. Often, its because they can't afford it at full price. We can't blame people for buying cheap goods if they have no other choice, and we can't make them stop with the threat of food prices going up in the future. People in bad situations are often here to live and survive *now*, not think about the potential ramifications in the future.
We can't blame people for the econimic position they are in, usually they're not the problem.
AI Cameras are the next big thing, so every shop in the area knows when a prolific shoplifter is on their way and staff can guard the door or even lock it. That's the way it is going. Even wearing a hoodie wont help as the AI will probably recognize the scuff marks on their trainers etc.
what happens if you go in and decide not to buy anything, you have to wait for a staffer to let you out or gate hop with someone else like a damn subway? Thats wild
I like whoever wrote this article. Very funny.
I live in a small town in the midlands and it isn't as bad as this yet but it is getting there. I can't wait to be able to tell my kids that I used to be able to touch things on shelves, they'll never believe me.
Your first mistake was going to London. It's been a shithole for like 20-30 years by now.
What happens if you don't buy anything. How do you leave?
You ask the clerk
Either have an officer who works with the hired guards at every store, or authorise guards to restrain fleeing thieves. Intimidation doesn't work if it's only there for Intimidation's sake
Shoplifters are very brazen about their activities because they know they will face zero to minimal resistance these days.
Enjoy in-store experience while it lasts, the trend is 100% home delivery.
hell yeah shoplifting
London be looking like the apocalypse by 2030. 🤣
This is a symptom of an ailing society. The problem is the leadership that squandered the nation's wealth and left the people desperate.
You mean the leadership that allowed uncontrolled immigration?
You get the leaders you voted for. MEP Nick Griffin warned for decades things were going to get bad, and he wasn't alone. However, the television decried them as this and that -ist and -phobe, and now all the good leaders have gone and you're left picking between managers who exist only to manage the decline.
Just to comment a few things I've noticed.
- How widespread the vices of a society are(Consider that the most common stolen item tends to be alcohol, which underlies the universal alcoholism that's present in the UK) affects this too. This is probably not helped by various taxes that hit the end consumer(sugar tax, tobacco tax etc).
- How poor the welfare of a country is. Across the world and especially in Japan, there's a marked increase in crime(and more repeat offenses in the older population) in the elderly, simply as prisons pay for food, accomodation and if you're in a low security prison you'll also have company, which if you're elderly pretty much solves a lot of your problems. The UK follows Japan's trail, with a low birth rate, and increasing elderly population(1 pensioner for every 4 non-pensioner currently iirc). Additionally, the UK pension is generally considered one of the worst in the world. This welfare issue is present in how the other stuff that gets stolen are things like baby formula and other things that a family needs.
- There absolutely is a point of racial profiling here. I saw firsthand when I visited the Philippines that security to white people was lackluster, while security to native Filipinos was intensive. Additionally there was security for entering shopping malls, and security around bags too, so you'd have to deposit bags before going into a shop, and pick them back up when leaving. Additionally, they'd check receipts match your goods in the bags. It is very inconvenient, and I see the UK transitioning in this direction for shops. I have a suspicion that some degree of profiling happens for the security
- Layout changes to shops. Basically, entrances and exits are becoming more choked in shops, but also more observable. Additionally, self-checkout machines seem(not 100% sure) to be on the way out which is unfortunate given their convenience. It's similar to the concept of "Panopticon", except just designing shop layouts for maximum observability.
- Regarding police not attending reports. With the prisons being pretty full, the current policy to try and keep prisoners in police cells as long as possible to ease it and all that, there's less incentive to convict people. Additionally, most police quit the force shortly after joining, and a lot of the older "veteran" police recognise the increasing crime rate as a risk to their life and are also moving to countries outside of the UK that pay better and are safer(such as Australia, same way Doctors get out, and Programmers move to SEA etc). Another wonderful example of Austerity at work. Additionally Police training and knowledge transfer here is increasingly strained.
Increasingly I see this as the cost and pains of the UK transitioning towards a low trust society, and when people have low trust, various forms of extremism and populism tend to work better and accelerate faster :(
In the US stores in most states are legally allowed to apprehend and forcibly hold people caught shoplifting until police arrive. Stores sometimes wont do it for liability reasons, but they can and do in some locations.
The gate makes people reconsider walking out without buying anything. It's to discourage price comparison.
Is that the high jump or the 1 meter hurdle
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I agree lmfao
Yea the Sainsbury's in Whitechapel they just leave those barriers open all the time
unfortunately outrageous problems require outrageous solutions
They grocers are still profitable. They just constantly need new reasons to raise prices and it is easier to raise prices if they convince the public that they are losing money to legalized crime.
In Austria, we don‘t have any of these security measures, just like we don‘t have ticket barriers in our underground/subway/metro stations. When I‘ve been to other countries (only within Europe) I never saw any locked up items, but I did often see these exit gates where I had to scan my reciept. Also, in the Netherlands, the biggest supermarket chain Albert Heijn allows you to use your (digital, but probably also physical) loyalty card to exit instead of the reciept, which makes it a lot more convenient to exit. I don’t know if other countries allow this too, I signed up for it so I could get my reciept digitally.
In Croatia some items have these magnetic tags that the cashier takes off when scanning items.
These gates and the procedures they are wanting you to do is only partially about security and partially about conditioning the public into accepting freedom restrictions.
Their aim is to have unmanned stores or at least stores with minimal manning then they save a fortune, people are the biggest cost. We’ve already seen this with the introduction of firstly self scan tills then with these scan while you shop tills. The next stage is where you will use an app on your phone to scan rather than their hand scanner and be charged as you shop rather than at the end. That also guarantees that they have access to your personal data directly tied to what you buy and when. The combination of all I have said is worth much more to them that what the lose in theft.
It’s all about controlling the populous and in general the populace are law abiding and conformist.
I went to a shop in Bucharest were the only measure I noticed is the receipt thing where a security guard will check each item you bought as you leave in my opinion this is the best measure because it makes all the other ones unnecessary
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I lived near a co-op in Nottingham, and all the meat above 5 quid was in a plastic case with a security tag
Toycat has me considering shop lifting