Thanks for having me on again, was a ton of fun to record and I think it comes across in the video! I'd like the issue a public apology to all the people who use matching right-back and left-back roles but you are boring people.
I almost never use the same mentality on both. And I like asymmetrical build-up play because it draws defenders out of shape. But I have used a Libero this year. On attack duty. It's like a Segundo Volante who covers defensively. The tactic I used it with, a 5212, created 4 more chances per game. And it ate 4231s and 433s for breakfast. It struggled vs 442. Which makes no sense, as it dealt with wide players in the other formations. But I replaced it with a 442 diamond because I had to sell the libero.
That first tactic is taken from FM Scout from last year! Supposed to dominate Vs weak teams, but can't be used against any team who understands what a football is
How about instead of tactics alone you get people's saves, turn off injuries and other random stuff to make it fair, simulate the whole season with the original tactics, then both of you make your own and simulate the whole season too (so 3 simulations in total, obviously no transfers allowed) and then compare your results and team stats? Seems like a fun opportunity to show how much it can influence the outcome of a whole season and also give you the ability to show how your advice works in actual game!
surely foxinthebox is a close third? that man must spend more time researching and studying the game meta-data than sleeping, eating or streaming (smh)
I've decided I want to take Wroxham from the 9th tier of English football to glory. The team starts with not even a full gold star team, and finding signings is so so hard. Trial abuse here I come!
I dont think its weird for a Tactic in the 8th tier of football to play for set pieces. I allways have that one ticked in lower leagues, all you need is one big lad and one decent set piece taker and you just print goals at that level.
Only just watched this, seems like Zealand requires the restroom with all that bouncing. Or has had many, many caffeine drinks - which in turn will also lead to all the pissing
EYYY The fuckin Knapp shout. That dudes tactics have been among the 2 or 3 best for EVERY FM I've ever played. I legit remember loading up Knapp tactics back in fm15. Dude's tactics are ALWAYS top 5 in MR.L's tactic testing league. Heck I get the sneaking suspicion that most of the tactics surrounding Knapp's in the rankings integrate at least one or two things from Knapp's tactics- whether that is using the same throw-in procedure or corner setup his tactics really set the standard.
I've used a libero to decent success in the Spanish lower leagues (notably Sergio Ayala in FM19). Tactic was a 5-2-3 with a libero on support, 2 CB's on def, WBsu & CWBat left & right, MEZsu & B2B left & right, with a Winger At, DLFsu & IFsu. Record number of shots on goal in a match was somewhere in the 60ies, with about 1/3rd on target on average. My finishing was so low though that I never got more than 4 goals lol.
I play the exact formation as IDavy with Dortmund but with the DM/BWM on the right and the Mezzala/CM on the left and CWB on the right and 2 Inverted wingers with a Shadow Striker. Else, exactly the same.
I loved the video, but the only thing is I think you should judge tactics on the context of the team and the players that your subscribers have. Example if someone plays LB attack and RB defence it’s because his RB maybe is not good in attack so he can’t to better. I love your videos.
It’s basically going to come down to on defense you will have 5 at the back with the half back and the wing back come back later and on attack the cm will take the role of the fullback in an underlapping role more in the edge of the box with the winger outside of him. The cm would be the slightly further and come wider to get the ball if needed.
The half back on defend tactic: I bet the FB on defend is told to sit narrow - almost as a 3rd CB. This would allow the WB to overlap the IF and for the HB to drop onto a makeshift back 4 to play long balls to the WB and advanced players.
Someone is using a variation of my "Z" formation and it turned out to be the 2nd most effective tactic. lol. Biggest difference is that they replaced the Segundo Volante with a Halfback.
I used a libero on support and attack I'm fm20 with concord in lower leagues. Was Saul milanovics best position so thought let's run with it for once🤣. Worked ok and could swap to a 433dm wide when needed, libero moved to the DM role.
Last year used a libero in tactic that got FC Andorra to CL final, so I've got positive experience too, worked really well. Might be the absolutely insane guy I played there though.
I think it's a missed opportunity to not look at the tactics ingame... While I appreciate the concept of this video, what you end up wtih is two persons armchair-guessing whether a tactic would work out or not. Look at it ingame, then realize why the creators might have made the choices they did
Thanks for having me on again, was a ton of fun to record and I think it comes across in the video! I'd like the issue a public apology to all the people who use matching right-back and left-back roles but you are boring people.
@@thethomascobbgroup5001 Dont dis Margherita
@@thethomascobbgroup5001 Vanilla ice cream is fire, wym
I'm being personally attacked by my streamer widepeepoSad
I almost never use the same mentality on both. And I like asymmetrical build-up play because it draws defenders out of shape.
But I have used a Libero this year. On attack duty. It's like a Segundo Volante who covers defensively. The tactic I used it with, a 5212, created 4 more chances per game. And it ate 4231s and 433s for breakfast. It struggled vs 442. Which makes no sense, as it dealt with wide players in the other formations. But I replaced it with a 442 diamond because I had to sell the libero.
Like you dont understand people who play Real Madrid I dont understand people who play the same premier league every game it must be really boring xD
The chemistry between you is so good and natural.
C é gay
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Yes! Please do more with WorkTheSpace!
Feels like two old men sitting on the porch.
"Back in my day as a young manager I used to have a DM on defending."
" I heard they use HB's now."
"Well chap that's how it goes."
Hey! I feel targeted! And I'm not 6'3" tall.
@@shawngillogly6873 you're not?
Cross em off the scouting list guys
Its two old men sitting in front of their computers so not far off
11:05 Distribute to playmaker
11:07 has no playmaker on the pitch
New meta
obv he means pass to the opponents playmaker
"Everybody just uses wing backs"
Me playing 6'4 full backs on support: *"ummmm"*
My 6'5 no nonsense full back disagrees
My favourite part of the first tactic is that he didn't select offside trap. There's just 1 defender, ir shouldn't be hard
What a missed opportunity lmaooooo
@@jpfr624 it should help so much and I don't see you loosing anything
The fact that WTS was there made it very fun to watch.
boys u missed an open goal by not playing a match with these tactics. I need to see that first one in engine.
"by popular demand, some demand" XDDD
Murmurs
ONE DAY!!! One day it will be me who gets a guest appearance! haha great vid
That'll be amazing
Thabo you mister for the Juventus tactic i Win the Serie A with the tactic 👌
This video shows you need to do more videos with Jack. You two are so entertaining to watch.
That first tactic is taken from FM Scout from last year! Supposed to dominate Vs weak teams, but can't be used against any team who understands what a football is
How about instead of tactics alone you get people's saves, turn off injuries and other random stuff to make it fair, simulate the whole season with the original tactics, then both of you make your own and simulate the whole season too (so 3 simulations in total, obviously no transfers allowed) and then compare your results and team stats? Seems like a fun opportunity to show how much it can influence the outcome of a whole season and also give you the ability to show how your advice works in actual game!
Libero on attack is so good when playing with 3 CBS and with playing out from the back :)
I use a Libero between my two ball playing CBs using a 3-4-3w
Preach brother 🙌
"You can pull that off, the people want it."
" *achem* That's actually the catchphrase of my onlyfans."
"Wow."
I love your videos with WorkTheSpace, my two favorite FM TH-camrs
surely foxinthebox is a close third? that man must spend more time researching and studying the game meta-data than sleeping, eating or streaming (smh)
I love that reece has a channel that shouts out the channels he edits
My two favorite YT Twich bros... Yall should do a weekly 'we rate your ***'
Why was that impression of Ben so good?!
Chemistry on-point 🤣
Wait what's wrong with cautious? It's the bane of my existence.
I've decided I want to take Wroxham from the 9th tier of English football to glory. The team starts with not even a full gold star team, and finding signings is so so hard. Trial abuse here I come!
13:03 When that Wonderkind you were scouting for two years is put on the transfer list
OMG you look like Marshall! I cant unsee it arghhh
The guy, Jason something, is in pretty much everything Judd Apatow does in fairness.
I dont think its weird for a Tactic in the 8th tier of football to play for set pieces. I allways have that one ticked in lower leagues, all you need is one big lad and one decent set piece taker and you just print goals at that level.
Zealand been pumping in the vids. Love it!
Only just watched this, seems like Zealand requires the restroom with all that bouncing. Or has had many, many caffeine drinks - which in turn will also lead to all the pissing
You two are really good 😃
This was really good!
I like the concept of this video. Did you do more of these?
Really enjoyed this and would like to see more 👍
Would love to see your reactions to Secret Base's Breaking Football Manager formations
I still have nightmares
I used a Libero once on FM 19, in one of the best teams I've ever had, but it was definitely a one-off
It's Jason Segel. Forgetting Sarah Marshall, I love You Man!, Bad Teacher
EYYY The fuckin Knapp shout. That dudes tactics have been among the 2 or 3 best for EVERY FM I've ever played. I legit remember loading up Knapp tactics back in fm15. Dude's tactics are ALWAYS top 5 in MR.L's tactic testing league. Heck I get the sneaking suspicion that most of the tactics surrounding Knapp's in the rankings integrate at least one or two things from Knapp's tactics- whether that is using the same throw-in procedure or corner setup his tactics really set the standard.
Zealand! The guy that plays Marshall is in the newest Gullivers Travels with Jack Black.
the false 9 tactic is insane if you have a really good false 9 striker hybrid aha
Okay this pushed me to make a Twitter. I’m missing so many good videos I could be on!
I've used a libero to decent success in the Spanish lower leagues (notably Sergio Ayala in FM19).
Tactic was a 5-2-3 with a libero on support, 2 CB's on def, WBsu & CWBat left & right, MEZsu & B2B left & right, with a Winger At, DLFsu & IFsu. Record number of shots on goal in a match was somewhere in the 60ies, with about 1/3rd on target on average. My finishing was so low though that I never got more than 4 goals lol.
I wish you would do more like this
I play the exact formation as IDavy with Dortmund but with the DM/BWM on the right and the Mezzala/CM on the left and CWB on the right and 2 Inverted wingers with a Shadow Striker. Else, exactly the same.
I loved the video, but the only thing is I think you should judge tactics on the context of the team and the players that your subscribers have. Example if someone plays LB attack and RB defence it’s because his RB maybe is not good in attack so he can’t to better. I love your videos.
Great video idea this Zealand
The 4th tactic I feel would be more of a real life tactic then an fm tactic
It’s basically going to come down to on defense you will have 5 at the back with the half back and the wing back come back later and on attack the cm will take the role of the fullback in an underlapping role more in the edge of the box with the winger outside of him. The cm would be the slightly further and come wider to get the ball if needed.
The half back on defend tactic: I bet the FB on defend is told to sit narrow - almost as a 3rd CB.
This would allow the WB to overlap the IF and for the HB to drop onto a makeshift back 4 to play long balls to the WB and advanced players.
I’m also thinking that tactic was made for Man United...
"It's like people who have a little dyed streak in their hair" Brilliant haha
I cant remember the last time i used the same role for my fullbacks.... am I a genius?
Zealand have never watched Forgetting Sarah Marshall. :(
or Freaks and Geeks
Oh libero libero! A normal center-back with cover duty works just the same!
That 4231 with a half back is a straight copy and paste from Mourinho's Inter.
I love jack
Marshall was in one of the newish Muppet movies I think?
I'VE BEEN THINKING ZEALAND LOOKS LIKE MARSHALL FOREVER
the guy you raided yesterday was great
How have you not seen 'I Love you, man'?
Hey Zealand, why do u look shaking all the time on this video (is it just my monitor?) :D , i just noticed it now. Great video, though !
He got it from his dad, they are always bouncing their legs when they are sitting and thinking. Usually it doesn’t come all the way up his body 🤣
Hw does the tactic tester works? And can we use it?
Yes, its on fm-base. You just upload your tactic and they simulate many matches with it
Someone is using a variation of my "Z" formation and it turned out to be the 2nd most effective tactic. lol. Biggest difference is that they replaced the Segundo Volante with a Halfback.
I used a libero on support and attack I'm fm20 with concord in lower leagues. Was Saul milanovics best position so thought let's run with it for once🤣. Worked ok and could swap to a 433dm wide when needed, libero moved to the DM role.
Everyone knows Tony Pulis 4-4-2 would fuckin crush all of these
what's the thing against "libero" role in FM? please i dont understand why
Hey can you do a video on how to download kits next please
I really wish SI would nerf Gegenpressing and make the other styles more viable. I mean, 4-2-3-1 Attacking Gegenpressing is just a meme.
why is Zealand filming during a mild earthquake?
loooool
I used a 3-4-1-2 with a libero and win the Copa Libertadores so I think it works
Last year used a libero in tactic that got FC Andorra to CL final, so I've got positive experience too, worked really well. Might be the absolutely insane guy I played there though.
Playing gegenpress with cautious mentality? (Tactic 2)
The disrespect against the libero in this video is quite uppsetting.
You look exactly like marshall...
Wtf my tactic is featured
I am happy I am not in this video with my 4-1-1-3-1 gegenpress
You’ve never seen Jason Segel in anything else...What?
My thoughts exactly! I love you man! Not Literally, obviously!
We Stan WTS
can anyone tell me how to check my own tactics ratings on fm base pls???
My ears always kinda hurt because your voice is so deep
What's the beef with Dr Bengi? I think he's alright.
They both are very good friend with Doctor Benjy, and they were just teasing him. The same thing that Doctor Benjy does to them constantly. 😀
Marshall on Freaks & Geeks was quality
more!
Zealand's bouncing around is a bit disconcerting. Is he full of nervous energy? Does he need a pee? We may never know!
He is always bouncing his leg while he's thinking is the answer
@@ZealandonYT And now we know!
New Video idea
team of the best free agents
Get the best free agent in every position and put them in a team and then sim the season
Loooooove work the space
5:42 how did i not see this ahahahahaha
I love jack ❤️
Can someone help me
I am being bullied by weaker teams in terms of possesion like 30% to their 70% and dont know how to fix it
U have to start pressing the opposition, higher pressing intensity and tempo and make sure u have a higher line of engagement
@@shirhanzafran where to set higher pressing intensity
@@lukaluka4868 out of possession tab
I ship the two of you.
You guys are so funny
So glad my 4-2-4 tiki taka is not in this..
3-4-1-2 is the best
Does someone know what Zealand video is that he does that head dance xDD
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@@Victor-gz8ml Thank you!
I think it's a missed opportunity to not look at the tactics ingame... While I appreciate the concept of this video, what you end up wtih is two persons armchair-guessing whether a tactic would work out or not. Look at it ingame, then realize why the creators might have made the choices they did
Rupert is on the "Servant"
Jason Segel latest movie is "Our Friend"
🙂
Zealand I love you and I mean no disrespect but you shaking your leg or just the chair through out this whole video makes my physically ill.
I like to play with 2-4-4-8 defense wins championship
1st tactic..... Distribute to centre backs..... There's no centre backs 😂
Hmmm, kinda makes me wanna go out and create a Libero tactic that actually doesn't suck :D
#GiveReeceSomeRice
I won the premier league with a 5-2-3 with a libero.
6:05 Kind of condescending when he's literally in your video...
I hate ‘tighter marking’ my teams perform better without it
its not liBEro , its LIbero , the accent in the i . pronounce it like an italian :)
Hello again
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