It’s strange how you can make your own opinion about” I don’t think it’s going to work” therefore it’s not permissible.. and also why it’s ok for protesting against closing of the masjid if it’s a “real threat” but the killing of Palestinians innocent childeren and women isn”t ?
Watch the whole video. The Shaykh is obviously against the killing of Palestinians. The biggest enemy of Palestinians is Palestinians. We need to follow what Allah legislates not what we want. The victory is in the hands of Allah alone, not any leader or organization.
Baralu Allahu fikum. For those still disagree. Just my quick 2 cents: The cries of protests are from a people who don't have true Iman and reliance on Allah(they neither practice their Deen) nor understand what the power of Dua and Tawakal. And so us who have Allah as a Muala(Allah say they have no muala but the believers have Allah as their Muala) follow the path of a people who don't have Allah. That is a failure and humiliation. The civil movement is not even demonstrations it was fighting just as Palastinians come out of their houses for freedom. We can't even call them protesting. Civil rights movement was about a people taken and stolen from their lands and that came with it. Its not the same as masajids being closed or a wars happening. What would hearts who are lost do for Islam or for our brothers and sisters. Its not just Palestinians who are oppressed so this is a wider picture. And the government's never done anything to give Palestinians back their land. Rather it was the British government that gave Israelis Palastine. This has been for decades. Do you think Boris is gonna say "right, Israel get out and stop your oppression". Even if some mps were to speak up there are always people on the higher level that won't change it. They are allies to one another(and we ordered to be allies to one another too) they're not gonna break off from their allies because of justice, 1 because they are enemies to Muslims also they too carry out injustices and so hide behind others injustices so they are not called out for theirs as well as their interests. Allah Ta'ala has already told us and the Prophet has pathed the way. Let's even say OK we will protest, what kind of people join? Also, there are alot of agendas that people have against us and use that as an opportunity, for example Jews coming to protests trying to make us love them or sympathise with them(long discussion), they use this as a weapon just as the Christians have and is a major part why we are like this, they are smart and most of us think the love us spread vids about their protests with Muslims. As they say, bring your enemies closer than your friends and we are in trap. Wake up. We are not permitted to live in their lands so who are we to demand Masjid etc from them. We have a contract(legal papers to stay such as serving the country),also so that doesn't include us demanding what we want. The humiliation is not just Palestinian, it's all over. And that because it's the state of the Ummah, not what the enemies are doing per se. People need to come back to the Qur'aan and Sunnah. And as the shiekh said we think we have it in our hands(the power of change towards leaders). We should ask from Allah aline after practicing the Way the He orders us to take. The Qur'aan is a book of guidance. If we don't seek the means(people coming back to the Deen) and ask Allah then we will continue in the humiliation. Allah is the One who could change their hearts to do what we want and need once we come with what we are required. Not by not praying, fasting, giving zakat, free mixing, no hijab fahsha etc then shouting aside doors and most of the time violence. Do you think Allah is pleased with that? Being in your own land and oppressed is one thing and be else where where you are not in the face of danger is another thing. Even if you are in Palestine today, is being an excuse for us to not wear hijab, play music etc(not saying anything of the Palestinians)? Demonstrations are begging the kufar. And you are not to. The majority of the people who go for Demonstrations don't even practice their Deen so you think Allah will give them victory against leaders who are politically shut and themselves are oppressors. This is a long discussion. Protesting I begging and scream "you have power over us, help us or don't hurt us or give us" these begging and giving power to is only for Allah and only He can give us, protect us, help us. Majority don't even pray how do expect Allah will give power and honour back to the Ummah. People don't even know their religion and Majority of them are hypocrites and start barking for the wrong reasons or when it only touches them and not when Allah or His Deen are attacked(not saying demos needed then). It's like knowing you have a coward child yet saying go and beat up the entire playground. You have to teach your child to be brave and how to defend themselves. So don't think oh we can just learn and sit at home and be quiet. The knowledge required of course which 1st is Tawhiid. People are going about having Christmas parties yet claim to be Muslims youbthink Allah is gonna put power in to their cries. Allah is the One who subjugate the kufar and as a servant of Allah He can subjugate them in our favour. Masjid being closed either is not a time for Demonstration. Allāh Ta'ala doesn't live in the Masajids and He can worshipped on earth and in houses. A letter of bring to attention can be written by those who are in some what in charge but NOT a letter demanding. When we demand we uphold democracy and soo much more. If they refuse after even an reminder then Al Hamdulilāh the entire earth was given to us. We have already been given the entire earth,we don't need to beg. And it's even more incumbent on us to migrate to a Muslim land. If a Muslim leader banned a Masjid then that letter can be a demand as Muslims and tell them to fear Allah. But who are you to demand in their lands. Its like a guest demanding from you pork. Read more often the Qur'aan, learn the Seerah and you'll understand why we should 1st and always ask only from Allah and never beg the kufar.
Muslim leaders are worse than western leaders. Look around you. Protesting is not "begging". It is demonstrating an opinion and solidarity on a particular topic, and voicing truth and justice. Not all protests contain the elements you describe. As for banning them due to free mixing. Look around you in this world. Where can you avoid free mixing... In the Muslim or non Muslim world. During your daily life you have to encounter the opposite gender. Most of the Islamic struggle was fought before the commandments of hijab came down. Those women stood firm. It is denigrating to assume people showing up to speak up for justice and stand up to be counted are focused on fahisha. First ban free mixing everywhere. Muslims are supposed to show up for the Eid prayer in large numbers precisely to show solidarity and strength in unity of the ummah. That is the aim of protests. To show a united voice. It is the avenue open to us in the modern world
Yet again, someone acting like you can’t protest and demonstrate while also being a practicing religious muslim 😭 Your post aged really badly after this New war on 🍉 was started because so many things have happened that have proved your point wrong, and even in history. Do you think the steps toward correcting injustice never started with protest?? The injust Vietnam war was eventually brought to an end because of intense protest in America, slavery was finally brought to an end because of first protest and activism which then lead to the civil war that finally saw slaves freed. and the pal 🍉 people cried and were relieved to see messages of support from the protesting American universities, and made videos thanking them! Astaghfirullah, and you’re trying to advocate for taking away what is now their only hope for a change in their country. The audacity to even think you can claim that the Jews and Christians have some kind of agenda, I mean what is this? Can they never do anything right according to you, even when they HELP us you have something to say. who are you to judge their hearts and motivations, many of these people started out just protesting and ending up joining the deen too. I dearly hope you reconsider your points. Nobody is “begging” kuffar, we’re trying to force and pressure them, not “beg” on our knees. We absolutely have the right to do that if our tax money is being sent to murder people, so yes it does affect us. As for moving to a Muslim country, as we can see, these “muslim” leaders are also disgusting and corrupt, so it seems that according to you we’d be left with nothing to do but keep silent and just let them burn children in peace! Most of the time for anything else we’d say make dua and also effort in this life. Suddenly this is an exception? I make plenty of dua and yet I also still want to protest, it’s not mutually exclusive.
Protesting or demonstrating is not gonna do anything for Palestine. Muslims should stop expecting and begging things from the كفّار. Only solution is to go back to Qur'an and Authentic Sunnah, with the understanding of the three best generations. Only solution is Tawheed. May Allah guide us all.
Ask the Palestinians- their opinion of protest, from their own words, when they see mass protests, especially in places like London and across the globe, they confirm, “ when we see you protest, it boosts our morals, we feel we are not alone, the support keeps us motivated and alive, especially in the dark times we are in, facing death, your protests give us reason to keep fighting for justice”
There is no use arguing with these people. They are like Christians. They will defend leaders over the good of the believers at all costs no matter what.
@@jamesalston7474fear Allāh ! You will be asked about this takfir on the day of Judgement. A Muslims follows the Qur’ān and Sunnah. This is not a religion led by emotion. “Allāh (سبحانه وتعالى said”, The Prophet (ﷺ) said…”
@@layman- They are like Christians in the sense that their arguments are against logic, Quran, and Sunnah but they are unwilling to except evidence on that matter. And just like Christians when they are presented with proof they are wrong they stay firm upon falsehood.
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
Yes because how dare those stubborn Palestineans want to fight against Israel who is trying to genocide them? Those people are just following their desires.
What kind of stupid point is this. Protesting comes from wanting to help your oppressed brothers in Palestine or wanting better living standards for you & your family where you live. This is a desire to do good, not a base desire like the known ones of gluttony, sexual desire, greed etc. Unbelievable conflation.
Brother sitting there and speaking and has all this freedom due to protest done in the past for racism, human rights and freedom. Yet, he is denying protest does not bring a change.
@@elafzal5866 LOL the same shariah called for Muslim countries to help Palestine but instead UAE supplying aid to Israel and Saudi blocking Yemen to support the Palestinians. Don’t reference shariah law when it’s convenient and is not abided by all Muslims as it loses value.
Beyond prayer, we have to act. Engage in an intellectual and strategic manner to spread the voice of Palestine, especially now that they are trying to silence them by cutting them off from the world and censuring whoever is speaking up for them via socials. Prayer is step nr.1, step nr.2 is to study the cause and step nr.3 is to spread the voice. And this is also what the prophet sws did after the first revelation. First, gather a small group, and then spread the knowledge and reality.
@@YasDD-z5qBeyond prayer?? What power do you or anyone else hold that will lead to resolution without the Will of Allah? There is nothing beyond asking Allah for help, for He is the One and Only who has full control over all affairs.
Dear brother, assalamu aleikum. There might be a misunderstanding of the matter. I have in NO absolute term said or meant that the resolution will come in another way than the Will from Allah swt. Our beloved Prophet Muhammed himself sws told us to do more than just pray or make dua if we have the means to. Please, find the hadith quoted below: On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.” (Muslim, Hadith 34, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi) @@MK-oj6hd
@@MK-oj6hdgo ahead now and tell the people of 🍉 who thanked the American protestors for standing by them and fighting for their cause, and were their only hope now for a change in their country that you think those protests were wrong 😂 go ahead and also say that Colombia uni actually considering divesting from isr is considered “does not help”.
I'm still to see a protest that had a positive effect where the government has actually acted upon the demonstrators demands ... Never saw that in my life...
Vietnam? The student protests? South Africa? Palestine... In the concentration camps, kids are being held without trial. They protest, they strike and sometimes it works. I can provide receipts In Sha Allah. Are you still saying there's never been a positive effect
@MsFNA yes, ask the schoalrs of palestine, obviously as u said, islam is not different. I'd rather take islam by someone struggling in the way of Allaah, than a guy sitting in comforts of a murtad-ruled country UAE
@MsFNA very relevant but when they are discussing issues that will likely relate to people on those locations then they should bring those from there. We are talking of classical scholars that have said go and ask the scholars of such and such as that matter is what happens in their location. See don’t worship any student of knowledge. There is good and mistake/opinion that does not necessarily.... so relax on that. All in all Allah knows best.
SubahanAllah very informative, exhausted all pros and cons and a thorough discussion. In the end, it all boils down to the last and the strongest point Sheikh Abdul Rahman mentioned. May Allah preserve him,
@@sali3492 No, everything will not be fine. Currently, Palestineans are living under literal aparthied. Their homes are being destroyed and bombed, entire families are being wiped out, they are facing countless injustices from the Israeli regime. Go ahead and tell these people to obey the Israelis and everything will magically be ok. Go ahead.
The replies are not making sense. If all those protesters woke up for fajr then why are the masajid so empty at fajr but the protests is full of thousands?
The arguments against protest in non-Muslim lands when people know it is not worship are weak. The good of the protest (the cause people are protesting for) is often greater than any harms (haraams) connected to protest. The good out weights the evil. For example, protesting to help Palestinians (to save the blood of Muslims) is a greater good than any evil that may come from the protest. Also it can be argued often protest are the lesser of two evils. So often what people are protesting in non-Muslim countries is stopping a greater evil continuing or a greater evil raising than the evils connected to the protest. Thus protest in non-Muslim countries is the lesser of two evils.
What good of protest is often greater? The harm is worse multiple elements of haram are in this with results of barely anything people have been protesting for years yet still their government is still funding Israel what good came out? Frankly majority of scholars agree it’s not permissible just some scholars who claim this Ibn Baz, Ibn Taymiyyah, Al Albani, Al Rajhi and more
Well think about how the protest are being handled. Men and women mixing, music and dancing….holding up nationalistic flags while chanting la ilaha illallah. If we want change we need to return back to Quran and Sunnah for thats the only way we can make a change and by that is…..reading on how Allah (swt) has ordered us to do it and the Sunnah
I believe they're going to try and answer all of the questions from the Khuruj podcast, but I could be mistaken. Apparently they were inundated with emails about it, so it may be a while. But these podcasts take preparation and a reason for doing them, so I think for now there may just not be any for a good amount of time. Allah knows best.
@@العقيلي-ف7و وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته Allah knows best, but I would assume he will. I don't think he said that explicitly though. Inshaa'Allah if you look through his Surat Kahf/Yunus series it may be there somewhere. Other than that it may be in his Arabic Grammar series. Can't remember exactly where. May Allah bless you too :)
Jazakumallahu khair brothers, it was a very needed discussion which shed light on many issues I had. There's one area that I need clarification on, you mentioned shaykh 'uthaymeen has the opinion that if there's a greater harm (ie, the masajid being closed) then protesting is allowed, I was wondering isn't the lives of the Muslims more dear to Allah than a Masjid [The hadith, that the Muslim blood is more beloved to Allah than the ka'bah]? Could we argue every time a Muslim's life is in danger anywhere in the world, we can protest in the countries that can bring about a change for that/those Muslim(s)?
@@alhomsiyyah hence the one who should move is the people itself. So, in this case, it has greater cause than just "protest or demonstrate is forbidden".. it is better to speak rather than silence. As simple as that
I've been to protests where there have been no problems....there is always a chance of criminals doing bad anywhere and in any situation....I dont think the argument that the brother is using against protesting is strong enough to say its haraam....specially since sometimes my choice is between going to a protest and watching a movie at home!😂
Also protesting is not the crux of democracy....what democracy? Even petitionng the MP is not democratic, cause they don't listen! Plus the issue of not fighting in Palestine is not a ruling issue, its a political choice!
Totally disagree with this. 1. When I was in Syria I often heard 'The Syrians are peace loving, they will never uprise' ( Obviously now we know the Syrians were being prepared not to defend themselves, when their own 'Leaders' would inflict them ) It's crystal clear that narrative was being pushed to make the people cowards; at a time when their children, women and old would need them the most. 2. People advocating to remain silent in cases of injustice, is a narrative being pushed by the elite and those in power ( They want to hold on to their power at every cost) 3. Did Musa (PBUH) wait for Pharoah to leave his throne? 4. Did the handful of youth ( In Surah Kahf) not stand up against their Ruler and speak up? 4. Finally, what the masses are doing around the Globe is not Revolting. They are showing solidarity to the Oppressed, educating others and saying to the Oppressors that their Brutal Occupation is Unacceptable. 5. Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hands; and if he is not able to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith [ Muslim]
What good is the protest and what's happen to Syria now? Second if the protest is gonna be Done can u be certain its fulfill the Islamic conditions of eg no free mixing etc? Allah commanded musa to speak directly to firaun and he made doa for that .Will u face the leader directly the way Musa did or u afraid u be put into prison? Islam is not about emotions.
@@alexandriaDMR do u hold the position of going to a public school as being haram due to free mixing and the many other blatant and clear mafasid? And if it is why is that issue not as heavily defended as protesting?
@@timmccoin7818 yes I do and if u trying to be civilised about that and saying each to their own then u simply ignoring the fact.Some take it as a place to even date.To be honest with the protest comes risk and would u like the police smothering women body to body ? Would u like to see evidence for that? Have some gherrah bro don't use your emotions
i have seen people say when they are advised to just make dua for the oppressed people, they say something along the lines "what is dua alone going to do? we have to project our efforts into *cue this action that goes against the sunnah* because it will help us achieve this much faster
@@servantofgod1374 are you okay? There's a big difference between doing something which will immediately help the situation and doin something which will most unlikely help the situation. Defending the Old lady will most likely help her. But the Palestinians goin to fight the Israelis or us protesting is very unlikely to bring about any change. Again millions have protested before and nothing has changed. Never mind all the evils that can intercept protests.
It is very disheartening that we preaching to the ordinary practising Muslim, who's trying their best through marches & sharing videos and images through social media, to voice their condemnation of the Israeli atrocities, condemn by the UN and many International Human Rights organizations and activists, some even calling it war crimes! It's even more disturbing, that we observe some modern-day Salafis are even have the audacity of questioning the validity (bidah or not) of Muslim demonstrations, Subgan-Allah! These preachings should rather be aimed at the leaders of the majority Muslim countries. They condemned with little actions! We know that the 4 Arab countries signed the so-called "deal of the century" Abraham Accord was all about greed. "Normalisation ties" that the Palestinians responded by saying that they've been stabbed in the back. Then there are the countries, that allow Israeli aeroplanes to fly over the airspace. The current supplicated Digital Age, never existed during the period of the Prophet (SWA) nor in the 3 generations that followed. Indeed, we should perform our Islamic duties in conjunction with obligatory Belief, Salah, Zakat, Sawm & Hajj (if you by the means) and the social media, to voice our condemnation and disgust of the illegitimate Occupation and Oppression of Palestine; their sufferings; blockade; siege; strangle-hold; water-contamination, etc. The list just goes on. No, we cannot sit back and "preach to the converted"! Finally, Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi: On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.” [Muslim] Reference: Hadith 34, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi
42:37 Ustadh I understand you can make dua and have patience as you mentioned earlier on in the video, however I just wanted to know in terms of allowing your voice to be heard, what is a stronger way for the Muslims to get their voice heard in a non Muslim country, as you said in a Muslim neseeha can be done Muslims will talk to the leader but in a non muslim country this is unlikely... so what would be a stronger way and a stronger effort to be heard? Also how do we decide whether or not the matter were protesting for will do greater harm then protesting it self.... in example the free Palestine movement, is the situation of the people in Palestine; being blown up, dispositioned and attacked, is that harm to those people greater than the harm that will come from us protesting and how do we measure that?
@Efron F okay I see, I don’t know if I’m reaching here or wrong from this deduction but would I be right in saying... we’re just trying to get to the basics what is the long term plan does it stop at raising awareness or do we carry on protesting until the matter is actually solved in this example... would it just be the ceasefire or the removal of isrealis at a whole? if it has a long term goal how are we gonna get it through protesting does it turn to arms or any other method.... So possibly for short term goals you may be able to outweigh the bad that protesting causes... however if the goal is more long term you may not outweigh the bad that happens from protesting... Or you might be better off having another means of action for achieving that long term goal.
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
Mashallah to the other brother for questioning and not just rolling over straight away. I feel Ustadh started off strongly debunking how the innovation and rebelling against a Muslim ruler points don't hold weight, but his reasoning that it 'distracts people from the remembrance of Allah' or that by not demonstrating at all it will 'destroy democracy' are equally as weak. The fact of the matter is you can't prove that protesting IN AND OF ITSELF is haram. As the brother mentioned a scenario where only brothers are protesting against british support of Israel, not to get closer to Allah, and this happens between salah times there is nothing wrong with that.
A structured approach to the subject and interesting discussion. I feel like it was a stretch to make the principles set out in the beginning fit with the conclusion he tried to draw on the issue. There's 'free mixing' in supermarkets and haram things being sold there, lower your gaze and have some self control. Also looting and riots is being conflated with peaceful marches and protests in this video. Its a custom of the west (but not exclusively) for 100s of years. It doesn't matter if we are sure or not if its going to work, we are just following the means available to us, all of them. Literally been weeks of protests in London over Palestine. Peaceful and no harm. Plenty of places one can pray if one was going to anyway (as one should). It does draw people and allies to the cause and raises awareness on issues that could easily be hidden otherwise. In reality most of the arguments here could be said about the internet, social media and TH-cam, yet here we are. I do agree that we shouldn't protest over trivial matters.
You mentioned Shaykh 'uthaymeen has the opinion that if there's greater harm (ie, the masajid being closed) then protesting is allowed, so I wonder in the present situation where Isreal is killing thousands of people in Gaza .can we protest for the people of Palestine? cuz if we dont pressurize the UN and demand a cease-fire then millions of lives in Gaza will be lost .
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 yes they did have an effect. if it was not convenient for the elites the protest would not take place or the movement would be demonised. The success of protests is determined by the elites. They muster support and make the movement appeal to the general public or do the opposite. Protests are just a tool for them by which they can get support for a cause or demonise a cause. If they want the cause to succeed then the good publicity of the protest would prevail such that the public will support it once they become aware of it. Otherwise the opposite happens where the protesters are kept minimal, unheard or mocked tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorists by which a movement is only belittled. The elites can make it one way or another to change public perception, that’s all it takes. So do not think the protest comes from the people, it’s a spark started according to the convenience of those in control. A spark they add fuel to by mass media and other publicity.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 call it Monkey’s theory then. I didn’t say all protests come from the elite. But it will only have mass support if it gets out in the public eye, aka by permission of the elite because its convenient. Otherwise they would crackdown on the movement or belittle it with mockery. Of the ways to win against an enemy without fighting is to demonise them especially by having someone infiltrate them and humiliate them with uncivilised savagery. Or to provoke them until they have no choice but to explode in reaction and then to capture their reaction. You talk about people cracking down on the civil rights movement initially. Ask yourself who was doing that? Why were they doing that? The south especially was excessively racist, sudden changes can lead to civil war and a paradigm shift in government acceptance towards coloured people by giving them more rights would not be tolerated by half of the USA. This acceptance had to be drilled into their heads overtime. To the point that even today racism has not been purged yet it matters not since the movement was successful and the elites gave it the green light to go. The government has to act like it’s with the people, every step of the way relating to them in order to gradually change overtime. Sudden changes in major attitudes won’t be received well, so there is no surprise the civil rights movement was initially met with overwhelming opposition only to be eventually brought into the masses with acceptance and sympathy.
Jazaka-Allah khairan. But in a situation like that of the Palestine, how do we go about it as Muslims? Should we just fold our hands and see them being brutally massacred by the Israelites when we can use podcast like this to raise awareness? If protest, even hypothetically the peaceful one is haram, how about doing podcasts and the use of other forms of social media to bring to the attention of the world about the realities of the suffering Muslims are facing in different parts of the glob?
Protest? This is collective amr bil-maruf and nahy anil-munkar Allah says in the Qur'an: Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity. A band of Muslims must go out and condemn the evil of murdering innocent Muslims and enjoining the resistance against the murderers and thieves Allah says in the Qur'an: Rise for Allah, in ones and twos Allah says in the Qur'an: What's wrong with you that you do not fight in the way of Allah while the oppressed men, women and children call? Allah says in the Qur'an: Allah does not love loud odious words except for him who has been done an injustice, and Allah has been Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing. The companion and Prophet's grandson Husayn ibn Ali and his companions rose against the caliph of their time Yazid in protest as recorded by the consensus of historians through saheeh hadith The tabi' tabi'i Zayd ibn Ali, again a great great grandson of the Prophet, and his companions rose against Hisham the caliph in protest by the consensus of all historians through saheeh hadith The Sunnah is clear: Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri reported that the prophet Muhammad said, "Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith" When we have the freedom to speak, we must change it with our tongues. Otherwise we are going against the saheeh hadith of the Prophet. The Qur'an and Sunnah and practice of Salaf call to rising up as a band of Muslims, even if one or two, loudly condemning the unjust and joining the struggle to liberate oppressed men, women, and children Only the CIA wants these verses and saheeh hadith and consensus history to be forgotten in order to favour Israel and Saudi Arabia. Don't be their pawn. Be the soldier of Allah and follow the path of the Prophet, his Family and his Noble Companions.
@@thescholiast5118 What is Saudi Arabia got to do with Israel? I agree with most of your points. However, in the end you swept in a religious sectarianism, I don't understand. Do you have a problem with Saudi Arabia? I think you can make your points clear without taking that trajectory, because Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other Arab countries did a lot in trying to bring an end to the atrocities of Zionists against the Palestinians in the past. The documents and footages are out there. I didn't completely agree with what Sheikh Hasan said, considering the circumstances of the Muslims today, because at least if you don't have the political power and authority to stop the evil, you can speak against it through social media platforms and postcards such as the one he did, instead of completely discouraging the Muslims from doing nothing.
@@abdullahimohammad9513 Saudi Arabia is very close to the United States, the greatest sponsor of Israel and the greatest supplier of Israeli weaponry King Salman dances with Trump Prince MBS praises Jared Kushner who initiated the Deal of the Century which normalised Arab relations with Israel Saudi Arabia has done more bombing Yemeni Muslims than lifting a finger for Palestine Shamefully, Saudi Arabia has bombed Yemen longer than Israel has bombed Gaza Sorry. The Qur'an and Sunnah does not allow me to sugarcoat the murder of Yemeni civilians and the cooperation with the Greatest Friend of Israel. Allah commands me to speak the truth as it is. Also, the Saudis are sponsoring people to preach against criticising oppressive rulers. This is against Qur'an and Sunnah. We are commanded by Allah to condemn injustice and change it whenever we can, and when we can't then to speak against it, and only when we can't speak then to hate it in our hearts. For those of us who have the freedom to speak against atrocities of unjust rulers, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, we must speak. This has nothing to do with sectarianism. Nobody is calling anybody a kafir or anything like that. It's just calling a regime or a ruler unjust because of its actions.
@@ابوآسيةالسويسري I am an alim myself. Why do you think anyone who is on TH-cam is a layman? And no, I am not the only alim either. I see you have no answer to the perfect evidence from Qur'an, Sunnah and Salaf. But instead you follow the ahbaar (rabbis) of your own hizb (sect) Allah says: They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks
Beware of every Mukhazzil and every Murjif in these times! Fuqaha have mentioned in the books of Fiqh that two types of people must be kept in check & prohibited by the Ruler: 1. Mukhazzil: one who demotivates people from Jihād, makes them stay back from it. The one who frightens people, by saying: "Our enemy is large in numbers, our horses are weak, and we have no strength against them." 2. Murjif : one who speaks about the strength of the Kuffar & weakness of Muslims; one who makes many ramifications, by saying: such-and-such a company was killed, or enemy reinforcements followed them from such-and-such direction, or they had an ambush in such-and-such a place.
3minutes before the end of the video, conclusion finally arrived - protesting in a non Muslim country is permissible if we have to choose a lesser harm, if the greater harm would come if we didn't protest.
Oh ok protesting is haraam. Should have the government who has already THE "correct manhaj" to help them than, saving them from making protest. U think the Palestinian people making protest just to have fun is it?
I think the problem here in the debating happening around 32:00 ish, is why people still dont want to accept that demonstration is haram and always say with what if we can make it ideal and all that, is they are stubborn in not wanting to follow a dalil and trying to to circumvent the dalil, because they think their logic is better than wahyu/dalil. Scary stuff if you have placed your intelect in front of quran and sunnah. May Allah protect us from our own intellect. Edit: a good followup video to this would be from Abu Mussab, Palestine: You've Been Decieved th-cam.com/video/wW3yNZvfbes/w-d-xo.html
@@samisyed2370 I'm confused brother, who are you trying to please? Is it yourself? Other people? Or Allah? Standing up to dzalim IN THE CORRECT WAY that will please Allah is whats important. The ustadz Abdurahman Hassan hafidhaullah is a God fearing man; he may be young, but he is knowledged and wise. May Allah protect the ustadz and us all as an ummah.
@@samisyed2370 Ayy brother... we're not talking about robbers breaking into our houses...are we now? Defending yourself against danger is wajeeb, do what you must to save yourself and your family from immediate harm. Don't change the subject now. Focus focus... This is about participating in a demonstration.
Honestly idk what conclusion to come to our of this podcast. 1. I understand the problems of protesting e.g.men touching women inappropriately but also you need to know that women are also sexually harrased at the Ka'aba. 2. The sheikh said if the issue is bigger then the protest should be done, but isn't what's happening in Palestine currently the bigger issue bigger than what's happening in protests. Children are being killed,sold, murdered,raped and Allah will question us why we didn't say anything about it. 3. As much as protesting has it's negatives it also has it's positives because a lot of ppl learn about what's happening by asking the crowds and social media blowing up . 4. What can we do to help though? We can't just sit by and watch and say protesting is haram so I can't do it but what else can we do. The so called Muslim leaders are quiet and the ppl need to pressure the government for a change. Idk what conclusion to come to wallahi. May Allah help us all. We're all confused in this ummah and our Muslim ummah is slowly falling apart. May Allah protect our Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and all over the world. Ameen
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
I'd be interested to hear their opinion now with the current unprecedented war in Palestine. Asking humbly not challenging them or attacking the knowledge shared here.
i find it fascinating how brothers are disagreeing with the given arguments despite the level of knowledge and wisdom of Ustadh abdurrahman Hassan. They try to bring in emotions into their speech making them no different to ahlul ahwa. May Allah guide them
The "freemixing" in the market is something that took place even in the time of the Prophet ﷺ, it clearly doesn't fall into the prohibition of freemixing. As for the music, then this is something out of our control, which is why we limit going to the market for what is necessary. We can't stay in a place where music is played for no reason. As for wasting time, I don't know what evidence he has for saying that is haram. That seemed to be strange reasoning.
The hypothetical situation that was mentioned at around 38:40 did happen before with Shaykh Tahir Wyatt where there was a peaceful brothers only protest. It did not have anything that was mentioned of freemxing, looting etc.
How is a public gathering a protest? lol. No it was just a regular khutbah. As for Palestinians being their own enemy what I mean by that is we are the reason the help of Allah has not come yet. The enemy doesn’t actually have any power against us if the help of Allah is with us. Too many verses to quote on this!
@Life lesson und Islam why would you not do it in center city if given the opportunity. You’re not making any sense. Regardless May Allah guide us all and forgive us our short comings. Thank you for the conversation.
Many times I feel the one who interviews is trying to argue against something that is understandable. You can't control a protest.. Yeah you might have organized a protest for man only.. but if you go out the doors and a bystander/outsider joins the protest let's say a woman? Are you going to kick them out right away? If so will it than not cause a arguement? What might lead to chaos.. making someone angry etc. What if a Man is joining your protest? and have is own means to use your protest to cause something to happen.. like putting graffiti on the walls? Like Cursing? Etc.
@@alexandriaDMR Are you not going to ask for Daleel for the statemment instead of an emotional threat? That's usually the approach of the so-called saved sect until you approach their bread and butter.
A really amazing video which has been beneficial for me and alot of other muslims im sure. But i would really appreciate timestamps or a small timestamp for the conclusion on whether its permissible or not. Jazakallah :)
@Exfoliated Elbow. The Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas. Take time out and learn about the Deen. We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time! Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
The Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas. Take time out and learn about the Deen. We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time! Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
@Exfoliated Elbow . What's ur point? Are u ok? All I said why the answer was not short! Who are you tell people not to listen to the sheikh!!!! Fear Allah and delete your comments Calm down, no one is arguing.
@Exfoliated Elbow . No judgment made, it was simple explanation. Encouraging people to learn about the Deen But you seem to be up to something, Carry on, I made my point. Notifications muted
Valid points, Did Saud and co do khurooj against the Kahlifahtul Muslimeen by allying against the non believers? If so, is the rule of the Saud legitimate over Hijaz or should it be overturned?
@@yasinibrahimthe ottoman empire which has historical and religious ties to Islam and its two most holiest sites (Makkah and Madinah) somehow just didn’t have authority over it? Looool
@@yasinibrahim| did they not pledge allegiance to the khalifatul muslimeen? Are you saying it’s ok to ally with non believers and attack Muslims?, or even worse fight the rule of the khilafah?
@@ibrahimdiriye319 So when Allaah سبحانه وتعالى said in Sooratul Ahzaab 33:70 يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَقُولُوا قَوْلًا سَدِيدًا O you who believe! Keep your duty to Allah and fear Him, and speak (always) the truth. Are we not included in this commandment?
@@ImansHomeschoolYes, we are Commanded to speak the Truth but the Truth is not attributed to us There are times we will be right and times we will be wrong We must ask Allah to keep us on the Straight Path May Allah keep us on the Straight Path🤲
Why do these guys just not make hijra to a muslim country as the shaykh al-albani suggested? I can see why some muslims are calling this kind of talk the talk of madkhalis.
These two have already made hijrah and have advised the Muslims in the west to make hijrah. They have a podcast on the topic of hijrah in this series. To mention this is a view point of so called "madkhalis" when most of the people who have been given this label, are the same people who advise the Muslims who live where they are not able to establish their religion to make hijrah. Please do more research brother before making such statements unjustly.
With due respect brother mufti taqi usmani from Pakistan has different opinion on protest with Hadith come and talk to darul uloom deoband india or come to Pakistan for better clarification.
Muslim parents protested outside a Birmingham primary school successfully stopped LGBT sex ed being taught to 4 year olds, without doing it they would have been taught this! How can you say there was no benefit to this or that it's haram because 'it prevents people from remember Allah' or its 'wasting time'? These are such weak arguments. There was no violence or looting! There was no inappropriate freemixing, no different to if the parents were collecting their children outside the school gates or any other place we go out of necessity by avoiding freemixing to the best of our abilities.
@Ibn Kamal Al-Hanbali No one is disputing rebelling against Muslim rulers is haram. Yes many protests which have used violence and looting have resulted in harm. Haram acts being done in protests in the Muslims lands does not make it haram to non violently protest a non-Muslim government which allows protest. What benefit has protesting ever done? Prevented our young Muslim children being taught homosexual education at school.
Dear sir, Really what to know about your feedback regarding the peace agreement & military cooperation between UAE & ISRAEL in the light of Quran and Sunnah
@ابو بكر ابن محمد البربري ASSALAMUALIKUM akhi, sincerely I am just a common Muslim , I am searching for answers..if the Ustadh can speak about protest which is a political thing then why not on the question above ? Surely the agreement with Israel is worse than the protest
Jihad is the highest form of protesting when dawah/dialog has failed, so protesting is permissible. What will make protesting halal or haram is the why (reason), and the how (methodology) used. Protesting is part and parcel of commanding good and forbidding evil. The believing men and believing women are allies of one another. They enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and establish prayer and give charity and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have mercy upon them. Verily, Allah is Almighty and Wise. Surat at-Tawba 9:71 Let there arise from you a nation inviting to good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful. Surat Ali Imran 3:104
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ You are wrong Jihad is the highest from of protesting under the umbrella of commanding good and forbidding evil. Before quoting great scholars (Hasan Al-Basri, Ahmad ibn Hanbal) from the past a question needs to be ask and answered. What you quoted were sayings about "rulers/leaders". Is what we see today like what the rulers and judges in the time of Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Umawiyyah and ‘Abbassiyah Khilaafah) were upon? What type of rulers were Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal refering to? What is the United Nations (UN), or the 50 different rulers/governments who have all abandoned all/part of the Islamic Sharia'? Our fiqh al-waaqi‘ (knowldege of current regional/world events) is not the same as Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal. Ibn al-Qayyim said: The mufti or judge is not able to issue a fatwa or verdict without understanding two things: (i) Understanding and having a good grasp of reality: he should have a good understanding of what is happening, on the basis of circumstantial evidence and other signs, so that he has a full understanding of it. (ii) Understanding what is required in the light of these circumstances, which means understanding the ruling of Allah that He issued in His book or on the lips of His Messenger concerning this reality, then he should apply the one to the other . I‘laam al-Muwaqqi‘een, 1/87 Shaykh al-Albaani said, "... The ruling on a thing is a projection of one’s understanding of it, and that cannot be achieved except by understanding the circumstances surrounding the issue for which they have to give an answer. This is one of the bases of giving rulings and fatwas in particular, and is one of the principles of knowledge in general..." Su’aal wa Jawaab hawla Fiqh al-Waaqi‘, p. 14-16 Lastly, I have not giving Bay'ah (pledge of allegiance) to any ruler. I believe as Shaykh al-Albaani believed that there is no Bay'ah to the rulers today.
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ There are two matters/questions. (1) Have the ruler/government apostated (with proof from Allah)? And (2) is there a leader with support (scholars/military) to replace the current ruler/government. I say yes to question 1 and no to question 2. A ruling can be given without necessarily having ways/means to implement that said ruling.
Shaykh al-Albaani views on Bay'ah in the link below. th-cam.com/video/7xgSri7BCFU/w-d-xo.html
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ I agree with al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz. I just believe that when all else has failed Jihad (fighting/war) is the final form of protesting.
@@nadhirabdullahmillatuibrahimWhy didnt the sahaba and the Prophet peace be upon him, protest during 10 years of oppression and suffering before performing Jihad? Was Jihad the last option for them after protesting for 10 years? No, they didnt resort to demonstrations. Never. What was their methodology then? Patience, holding on to the Qu'ran and Sunnah, staying away from sin and enjoin good. Giving da'wah. Or making hijrah(Abisiniyah) Also, you have not contested that protesting is impermissible because of the reasons mentioned in the video, you just consider it permissible and to be exhausted before performing jihad. Also can you give evidence for Jihad being a form of protest? Can you also give your evidence for your reasoning for protests being permissible? How can the means be halal if the demonstrations are inherintly linked to the harms mentioned by Ustadh? Surely if there was any good in it, the Prophet peace be upon him and sahabah would have resorted to it cause they suffered the most of all.
@@elafzal5866 Your foundational principle of why Muhammad (ﷺ) and the Sahaba didn't protest during 10 years of oppression is wrong. The Quran was not completed in those first 10 years. Since the Quran is complete we are no longer living in the Meccan period only. Alcoholic drinks were banned in the fourth year of the Hijra (Muslims migration from Mecca to Medina). By your logic, alcohol can be consumed because it was consumed during the first 10 years of Islam. Halal and Haram is determined by Allah. The general principle is that everything is halal except for what has been made haram by Allah. So, anyone claiming protesting is haram must provide proof for it being haram. Narrated Salman:" The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about fat, cheese, and furs, so he said: 'The lawful is what Allah made lawful in His Book, the unlawful is what Allah made unlawful in his Book, and what He was silent about; then it is among that for which He has pardoned.". sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1726 .Thus, Muhammad (ﷺ) referred to the general criterion for determining the halal and the haram. But since you wanted proof for protesting, then this verse is the proof, " You are the best nation produced as an example for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah...".(3:110). Lastly, the proof that Jihad is a type of protest is this hadith; narrated by Abu Sa'id al-Khudri the Prophet (ﷺ) said: The best fighting (Jihad) in the path of Allah is to speak a word of justice to an oppressive ruler. sunnah.com/abudawud:4344 .The below video explains protesting in detail. You need to watch it. th-cam.com/video/gliogAc2OQE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BroHajji
What do you advise us to do instead of protesting while our muslim brothers and sisters are butchered in some places on this earth? Isn't the greatest jihad is upright honest words in the front of an oppressor? What's your solution?
Salam aleikum baraka Allah u fikum for the beneficial videos i have a question for ustadh abdelrahman when you described the da3wa of the prophets going to the people first, what came to my mind was musa (as) went to the leader of egypt at that time ? Or is it an exception ?
The Prophet himself speaking to the chiefs of Quraysh, The Prophet s.a.w. himself in the streets preaching to the pll included the Chiefs they attacked the Muslims for such.
The dawah of the prophets is to start with their household then expand. This is what the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم did and also Musa AS. He grew up in the house of pharoah and so started there. It's no exception brother
@@AB-xx7hy It was natural for the Rasul to start with his family, he was commanded to convey the msg, and they were the closest ppl to him...I don't see how you can make a judgment that Musa went to Firaun first simply bc he was brought up there...B/c we know he knew who his ppl were! Al we know is that he went there bc he was commanded to do so...We don't know the reason for whatever order.
Ok wait so if the threat is the murder of Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine, does that constitute as a greater harm and does that then make protest the lesser of two harms? And I assume that this brother doesn't agree with social media then does him using the TH-cam platform to convey this message or any other message to reach those people whom he feels are wasting their time on that very platform make his means wrong? I would like to say I have been able to derive a conclusion for this but unfortunately I haven't rather more confused. In my opinion the threat that is currently present in Palestine is greater then the harm he has mentioned so in that regard would I be wrong in following the advice of Shaikh Al-‘Uthaimīn over whoever this brother is?
What would hearts who are lost do for Islam or for our brothers and sisters. Its not just Palestinians who are oppressed so this is a wider picture. And the government's never done anything to give Palestinians back their land. Rather it was the British government that gave Israelis Palastine. This has been for decades. Do you think Boris is gonna say "right, Israel get out and stop your oppression". Even if some mps were to speak up there are always people on the higher level that won't change it. They are allies they're not gonna break off from their allies because of justice, 1 because they are enemies to Muslims also they too carry out injustices and so hide behind others injustices so they are caught out. Allah Ta'ala has already told us and the Prophet has pathed the way. Let's even say OK we will protest, what kind of people join? Also, there are alot of agendas that people have against us and use that as an opportunity, for example Jews coming to protests trying to make us love them or sympathise with them(long discussion). We are not permitted to live in their lands so who are we to demand Masjid etc from them. We have a contract(legal papers to stay such as serving the country),also so that doesn't include us demanding what we want. The humiliation is not just Palestinian, it's all over. And that because it's the state of the Ummah, not what the enemies are doing per se. People need to come back to the Qur'aan and Sunnah. And as the shiekh said we think we have it in our hands(the power of change towards leaders). We should ask from Allah aline after practicing the Way the He orders us to take. The Qur'aan is a book of guidance. If we don't seek the means(people coming back to the Deen) and ask Allah then we will continue in the humiliation. Allah is the One who could change their hearts to do what we want and need once we come with what we are required. Not by not praying, fasting, giving zakat, free mixing, no hijab fahsha etc then shouting aside doors and most of the time violence. Do you think Allah is pleased with that? Being in your own land and oppressed is one thing and be else where where you are not in the face of danger is another thing. Even if you are in Palestine today, is being an excuse for us to not wear hijab, play music etc(not saying anything of the Palestinians)? Demonstrations are begging the kufar. And you are not to. The majority of the people who go for Demonstrations don't even practice their Deen so you think Allah will give them victory against leaders who are politically shut and themselves are oppressors. This is a long discussion. Protesting I begging and scream "you have power over us, help us or don't hurt us or give us" these begging and giving power to is only for Allah and only He can give us, protect us, help us. Majority don't even pray how do expect Allah will give power and honour back to the Ummah. People don't even know their religion and Majority of them are hypocrites and start barking for the wrong reasons or when it only touches them and not when Allah or His Deen are attacked(not saying demos needed then).
in belguim you have to ask for promisoin, and that is een non muslim organitation, i asked to let some one recite the quran or do a doua thet was not aloud, only woman went up and get the raight to screem and shout the things that are not helping
i think the brother missed a few points, is that a demonstration in of itself doesn't have to be made for the ruler of the country you are in, especially if you didn't do a mubai'a and this happens way more often than you think. for example, 1 country can take over another country, or it's still happening so the people use protest because they don't have physical weapons and this is the only way to fight against an invading force like India and Britain. protests are also used to gather people (increase confidence) to yes fight and cause damage if they were under occupation or a false leader. also you didn't answer what would the brother have done if a non Muslim country does destroy mosques and kill/ torture Muslims. china is currently doing it, France has already limited a lot who can wear the hijab and I'm pretty sure it totally prohibits niqab which is fard in islam. what then? you don't weapons to fight the government, so you can't defend your hurma (sanctity) other than using protesting as a weapon then we will need to discuss what makes a ruler a ruler in Islam. this alone changes a lot of things. also just because you say protests is the foundation of democracy, doesn't actually mean that it is objectively true. furthermore, most "democratic" systems in the west isn't real democratic systems, by voting, you are practically making mubaia3a which the people have the right to do. kingship isn't the only system of ruling in Islam. i can go on and on. as for saying there are bad things involved that are haram like free mixing and no control, well you can try elect leaders beforehand and sub leaders to look over the groups in the protest, basically, just look at the protests as war. they used to bring women with them in wars AND you couldn't control everybody in a war, some might even commit suicide or other haram things, does that mean wars are haram? i feel like both brothers aren't looking at it in the right way. ow and btw, for the black lives matter, the cops that killed the man that started the whole thing got prison time which they would have never ever happened if there was no protest, and other cops that killed black people have also gotten into much more trouble for doing what they do for black people than before the protest. and generally, every time black people protested, they gave more rights to not only to themselves but to other minorities too. think of it as a type of war. most wars these days are fought online with no bloodshed, protests are wars with varying amounts of bloodshed and weapons. sometimes those weapons are numbers, sometimes it's burning liquids in bottles.
Niqab is not Fard. It is literally makruh to do our most holy actions where we are closest to Allah in it, namely prayer/salat & Hajj/Umrah/Tawaf. How does this make sense for you? lol
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
Ali Dawah is a da'ee, and he doesn't have 3% of the knowledge Abdur Rahman Hasan has. But that's the issue, people today do not take from the 'ulama. While I doubt the sincerity of some shuyukh, Abdur Rahman Hasan is a person to take from and he is sincere.
There is nothing called peaceful protest ... because even if you organize one, all the opposition has to do is send one individual pretending to be one of the protester and start acting violently. Guess what? Now the opposition can frame your protest as violent, police will have reasons to arrest, and the cause will be vilified. [INSERT CONGRATULATION YOU PLAYED YOURSELF MEME]
Its amazing to me as a new revert alhamdelillah, to see muslims so far from quran and sunnah. Even the brother in white isnt accepting the proofs being brought with quran and sunnah. People think protesting is the most powerful thing we can do? Yes defend yourself, but always go to quran and sunnah...Allah swt grants victory to the belivers, not these violent haram protests. The brother in white reminds me of how most muslims act when you try to respectfully correct and try to guide them to quran and sunnah and not with emotions.
May Allah bless you sister, you should know that the brother on the right is playing the other side of the argument. In reality he agrees with what the Ustadh is saying, however he’s playing the role of someone who disagrees with him just so all potential doubts are refuted. They do this all the time on this channel, barikallahu feek.
@@anasibndawood6696 If you are telling about the ustadh, then may be you need to rethink what you've just said, because the ustadh here was quoting evidences for everything.
Protests are a symptom of the problem, As a general principal of hearing and obeying the leaders is correct, however we do not have any leaders at current, as all our so called leaders are content in maintaining individual nation states and not being leaders of the ummah. We have about 50 Muslim countries and therefore 50 leaders, some of questionable beliefs, this is the reality of situation. The scholars are looking at real protests now and casting them against some form of romantic idealised leadership that existed during the early days of Islam.
Nothing happens without God's knowledge or contrary to his will.There is a long-time plan which extends long into the future.A lot of people think they have a better plan.
I can see strong arguments from both side. I think it comes down to the individuals niya (intentions). I believe that I won’t be participating in anything that is haram when I’m protesting therefore it’s halal for me. I can’t make the same statement for anyone else.
31:03 hahaha, thank God brother Shahid is asking these if I was in his place I would have agreed with everything Ustad had to say, my answer to ustadh's every point would have been like "Jee ustad", like I do to my sheikhs back home. My brother here is doing a great job cross questioning.
@@ibnamanot Asalamualiakum akhi I am just trying express the amount of respect I have for students of knowledge related to Islamic sciences. In no possible manner does that mean that if someone is spreading nonsense ideas that we should keep quiet and smile But anyways thanks for the reminder 👍
Its not difficult to answe. But the Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas. Take time out and learn about the Deen. We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time! Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
Assaalmu aleikum, jazakum Allahu khairan for sharing. I'm a European Muslim and I find surprising these conclusions. We deal with mixed environments in our everyday life and Islamic cultural communities or mosques may be closed during the week due to work. Islamic history is full of mixed situations, Aisha RA used to be a leading figure not only for women but also for men, the manager of the market at the time of the prophet sws was a woman, not a man. The point was just how to behave and deal with these situations, not to completely ban them. I'd say further things, but AlhamduliLlah I found them well summarized in the following video: th-cam.com/video/yvk8kCH86Z0/w-d-xo.html
Concerning the hypothetical risk of engaging in situations where there's harm, my question is then: In the West acts of islamophobia are rising. Sisters wearing the hijab may incur major risks. Thus, could the conclusion be: no more wearing the hijab? The same could be with driving, entering traffic may engage you in potential incidents (national statistics show that the death rate increases due to incidents). Would driving become haram because it could potentially harm ourselves and others? In the end, all arguments seem weak in a Western context. And starting with the assumption seems not applicable as there's no specific aya or hadith stating so. I'd say it's more a matter of engaging in an intellectual conversation considering different fatwas, opinions, and contexts. W'Allahu a3lem
وعليكم السلام, thank you for your comment on this matter brother. There’s just a few things, Aisha RA, even though she did lead an army it wasn’t under mixed circumstances. And with Khadijah RA when she was a business woman, she would hire people for the trades and didn’t do it herself. Yes, in the west we are in unavoidable situations where freemixing would take place but those are out of necessity, such as public travel. As for protesting, we are choosing to be there. إن شاء الله I hope this message reaches you in good health. السلام عليكم
Baraka Allahu fik for your great replay! Much appreciated. I agree with what you shared. However, there are actual examples of women engaging in battle, i.e., Um Umara or Nusayba bint Kab in Uhud battle. The prophet allowed them to come to the field and they ended up playing a great role. Another name is Um Atiyyah who joined several battles. Women in general were strongly active in all societal fronts, from education to healthcare (a bit of Sira gives a lot of names). These are clear examples that the issue is not the mixed environment itself, but the way we behave (if we want, intentions themselves are crucial, first hadith al Bukhari). Let's take another example, the Hajj. Isn't it another highly mixed environment? And it's one of the five Islamic pillars. We engage in it with great commitment for the sake of Allah swt. Islam teaches us how to deal with the opposite gender, not how to avoid and ban it (we are indeed made also to build families, and so find our spouse). Let's take the teaching of lowering the gaze, such a teaching would have no meaning if we are made to live in non-mixed situations. Allah swt is the wisest and most knowledgeable, the all-knowing. The point then is not about banning these situations but about learning how to deal with them. Palestine is one of our crucial Islamic causes. I firmly believe that we have the responsibility to act and do our part. Praying, studying, sharing, and engaging in public discussions and events. Victory will come, it's Allah swt promise, but the effort is upon the Ummah (not only our Palestinian brother and sisters). @@adxm094
Jazakhallahun khairun for your detailed reply brother. Yes, indeed what you said about women participating in battle is correct. I was only trying to clarify the statement about Aisha RA. Your detailed reply is very much appreciated and of course the efforts are upon us. I would only disagree with the protesting but every other effort you mentioned such as events, studying, and sharing I 100%. May Allah bless you and grant the people of Palestine Freedom.
Amin, ajma3n brother. Giving a final comment, I'd say it depends on the context. If we have a look at the global situation, there's no country avoiding engaging in protest. not only in the West but also in the East. Let's take for example Turkey or Malaysia which are predominantly Muslim. Populations are rising their voices. And if you pay attention, in Turkey there are images where protests are endured with women and men separated, they are placed in two different groups to avoid the mixing issue previously mentioned. Thus, things are possible according to the local tradition and majority rules. In the West, we know to have major limits, and as for everyday life, we can deal with it in extreme situations like the current one. We are not engaging in it for fun, we are standing up against injustice and inhumanity for a cause that has its roots also in our Aqida. Let's all endure in deep prayers for our Palestinian brothers and sisters, in these hours of deep darkness and isolation they are facing. And the more they try to nullify and silence them, the more we raise their voice and cause. May Allah swt bless and guide us all toward UNITY. Free Palestine. @@adxm094
If there is no harm in protesting or you are protesting to a greater harm then no need to get excited and act tough and say it's haram. It's a fiqhi issue the smaller evil is preferred to a greater evil. Another thing is Saudi Scholars are with the Government Abdul Wahab and Abdul Aziz Saud had a agreement that Saud family takes care of politics and the Al Al Shiekh family the lineage of Abdulwahab the religious affairs. So obviously they will always take the opinion in most cases to not protest especially in Saudi lol. I think brother Abdulrahman it's time for him to look at other Scholars rather than Saudi scholars.
Im not going to comment one most of what you said csuse i dont think you no arabic so your probably just blindofllowing but would you said your womenfolk to these protests?
BarakAllahu feek very good advise but there are contemporary issues that need to be discussed and that need fatawa from respected scholars from Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jammah in Saudi they have there own version of Ahlu Sunna although most issues are agreed upon. In regards to arabic elhamdullilah akhi I studied in Madinah Uni I've seen your friend multiple times there if he is your friend Abu taymiyyah it's time to broaden up our knowledge ya akhi. JazakAllahu khayran your advice spot on but you didn't really touch on my historical facts.
Protest? This is collective amr bil-maruf and nahy anil-munkar Allah says in the Qur'an: Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity. A band of Muslims must go out and condemn the evil of murdering innocent Muslims and enjoining the resistance against the murderers and thieves Allah says in the Qur'an: Rise for Allah, in ones and twos Allah says in the Qur'an: What's wrong with you that you do not fight in the way of Allah while the oppressed men, women and children call? Allah says in the Qur'an: Allah does not love loud odious words except for him who has been done an injustice, and Allah has been Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing. The companion and Prophet's grandson Husayn ibn Ali and his companions rose against the caliph of their time Yazid in protest as recorded by the consensus of historians through saheeh hadith The tabi' tabi'i Zayd ibn Ali, again a great great grandson of the Prophet, and his companions rose against Hisham the caliph in protest by the consensus of all historians through saheeh hadith The Sunnah is clear: Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri reported that the prophet Muhammad said, "Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith" When we have the freedom to speak, we must change it with our tongues. Otherwise we are going against the saheeh hadith of the Prophet. The Qur'an and Sunnah and practice of Salaf call to rising up as a band of Muslims, even if one or two, loudly condemning the unjust and joining the struggle to liberate oppressed men, women, and children Only the CIA wants these verses and saheeh hadith and consensus history to be forgotten in order to favour Israel and Saudi Arabia. Don't be their pawn. Be the soldier of Allah and follow the path of the Prophet, his Family and his Noble Companions.
Oh please forbidding the evil while they are sinning missing salah free mixing music everywhere and women are uncovered? Such a joke they need to forbid the evil and enjoin the good upon themselves if they actually want to make a change
@@Islam.is.the.truth.. Stop slandering the majority of decent Muslims who pray and are modest and earn in a halal way and also command justice for Palestinians and forbid occupation. You do this only for the sake of pleasing Saudi Arabia and Israel who want you to be silenced. Don't be their pawn.
Well Articulated response. Just a suggestion A mind blowing book by Dr Israr Ahmed: Lessons from History - Reflections on the Past, Present and Future of the two Muslim communities
Very sad to have these brothers discussing trivial issues. They make the entire religion as their own narrow enterprise and anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam. I think we have better things to do. Protesting is absolutely effective. Allah knows best.
"and anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam" You will be held accountable for this statement that you have accused them of.
It deeply saddens me wallahi to see the sincere brothers from Salafi stream wasting energy, resource and time to discussing trivial issues while we are slaughtered everywhere. If such energy was used wisely w could have solved many problems of this world. May Allah guide us all. What is wrong with protesting injustice? Are million believers doing that are they all misguided? Allah will certainly hold all of us accountable including those self made scholars who are letting their oppressed brothers down.
@Exfoliated Elbow Where is the emotional blackmail? I'm pointing out that he has made an accusation that "anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam". Where is the evidence for this accusation?
@@abeliever6823Nothing but accusations and emotions from you whilest the entire podcast from these brothers is based in evidence from the shariah. Are you student of knowledge or scholar? Our criteria are not our personal opinions and desires but the Qu'ran and Sunnah.
I understand what the ustadh is saying but really given the state of the Muslim ummah today especially in UK Can we really adhere to Quran and sunnah during a protest? comon man it’s sin upon sin asking to happen. The bodies touching men and women in each others faces screaming like there’s no tomo?! Music is being played drums are being hit, not to forget some people have gone drunk to these protests bringing out hired cars or showing off flags from nice cars.. the ummah of UK have taken protesting out of context. Sadly they don’t have the knowledge as u do Ustadh abdulrahman. I don’t think protesting is befitting for the Muslims especially in the Uk.
@@ej8530 I don’t know about segregated ones but fair play Alhamdullilah. I suppose that’s ok to some extent. But majority all over the world have been free mixed
@@khoshalpashtoonmal1845 true true. Problem is aswell, as you mentioned, you get many types and groups of people at the large protests (usually organised by FOA and Co). You'll get the pan-Arab nationalists playing Arab music and dancing, the leftwing looking for a two state solution and the farleft anarchists looking to cause trouble. This one was majority Muslims outside East London masjid, and the messaging was uniquely Islamic. There was no music, free mixing or anything of the sort
@@ej8530 Alhamdullilah that’s good if there was no free mixing no music no hooligan chanting. If it is created but someone strictly adhering to the Quran ANd Sunnah like a masjid then fair play. But do u really think IN UK people will care about rules if protesting is done in city centre type areas? I doubt that. Birmingham where I am is a big example of why protesting is not befitting for Muslims. U ask any of throes Muslims if they know their religion how did our prophet Muhammad salalahu alayhi wa sealed with being salam and his companions dealed with being occupied and oppressed by the quraish? They won’t be able to answer. Muslims need to go back to basics deal rectify their own affairs first in their hearts as Allaah said he won’t change the affairs of or goodnes of people so as long as they don’t change their own state by commiting sin and being ungrateful to Allaah swt. “Verily, Allaah will not change the (good) condition of a people as long as they do not change their state (of goodness) themselves (by committing sins and by being ungrateful and disobedient to Allaah)” [al-Ra’d 13:11] I think the Muslims need to stand back rectify their own selfs first and their hearts then supplicate and make dua for Palestine together
We demonstrate for masaajid that is made out of bricks and not demonstrate Muslims who their blood is shed infront of their loved ones. Genocide is carried out on them. Where is the hadith of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يطوف بالكعبة، ويقول: ما أطيبك، وأطيب ريحك! ما أعظمك، وأعظم حرمتك! والذي نفس محمد بيده، لحرمة المؤمن أعظم عند الله حرمة منك، ماله، ودمه. أخرجه ابن ماجة. And those who say most of these protestors do not pray fajr. How do you know? Even if they don't pray where is the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم فقد جاء في الصحيحين وغيرهما من رواية ابي هريرة رضي الله عنه مرفوعا: بينما رجل يمشي فاشتد عليه العطش فنزل بئرا فشرب منها ثم خرج فإذا هو بكلب يلهث يأكل الثرى من العطش، فقال: لقد بلغ هذا مثل الذي بلغ بي، فملأ خفه ثم أمسكه بفيه ثم رقي فسقى الكلب، فشكر الله له فغفر له، قالوا يا رسول الله: وإن لنا في البهائم أجرا؟ قال: في كل كبد رطبة أجر. وفي حديث آخر في الصحيحين أيضا عن أبي هريرة مرفوعا: بينما كلب يطيف بركية كاد يقتله العطش إذ رأته بغي من بغايا بني إسرائيل فنزعت موقها فسقته فغفر لها به. والظاهر من هذه الأحاديث أن الله تعالى غفر لهما بهذا الفعل الذي ينم عن الشفقة والرحمة التي هي سبب من أسباب رحمة الله تعالى لمن تخلق بها. فقد روى الترمذي وصححه أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: الراحمون يرحمهم الرحمن، ارحموا من في الأرض يرحمكم من في السماء. وقال الحافظ في الفتح: فشكر الله له فغفر له: أي أثنى عليه وقبل عمله وجازاه بفعله. فالفاء تفسيرية، وقال القرطبي: فشكر الله له: أي أظهر ما جازاه به عند ملائكته فأدخله الجنة. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية معلقا على قصة هذه المرأة: فهذا لما حصل في قلبها من حسن النية والرحمة... If the person doesn't pray it doesn't mean he doesn't seek justice for himself or others. Haven you heard the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم انصر أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما You don't say I can't support (النصر) you because I don't pray or you don't pray if a Muslim is oppressed or out numbered or defeated. The فرض الكفاية spreads to nearest Muslim land and so on and so forth. And finally if demonstration is the only way to uplift oppression and to tell off those who are in charge. Where is the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم عَنْ أبي سعيدٍ الخدري - رضي الله عنه- عنِ النَّبي صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم قال: «أفضلُ الجهادِ كلمةُ عدلٍ عند سلطان جائرٍ" رواه أبو داود، والترمذي، وقال: حديث حسن.
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i have been researching this the last few days and finally a video has come out jazakallah khair
SubhanAllah someone knowledgeable speaking about current affairs! May Allah make you the reviver and defender of the Sunnah
It’s strange how you can make your own opinion about” I don’t think it’s going to work” therefore it’s not permissible.. and also why it’s ok for protesting against closing of the masjid if it’s a “real threat” but the killing of Palestinians innocent childeren and women isn”t ?
Watch the whole video. The Shaykh is obviously against the killing of Palestinians. The biggest enemy of Palestinians is Palestinians. We need to follow what Allah legislates not what we want. The victory is in the hands of Allah alone, not any leader or organization.
@@ahlal-quran7127 The biggest enemy of the Palestinians are Zionists.
@@ahlal-quran7127this is literally exactly what isr supporters say so you’re now imitating the kuffar.. “their enemy isn’t isr, it’s “h group”
A friend introduced me to your podcast..Alhamdulilah I've learnt a lot..
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Baralu Allahu fikum.
For those still disagree. Just my quick 2 cents:
The cries of protests are from a people who don't have true Iman and reliance on Allah(they neither practice their Deen) nor understand what the power of Dua and Tawakal.
And so us who have Allah as a Muala(Allah say they have no muala but the believers have Allah as their Muala) follow the path of a people who don't have Allah. That is a failure and humiliation.
The civil movement is not even demonstrations it was fighting just as Palastinians come out of their houses for freedom. We can't even call them protesting. Civil rights movement was about a people taken and stolen from their lands and that came with it. Its not the same as masajids being closed or a wars happening.
What would hearts who are lost do for Islam or for our brothers and sisters. Its not just Palestinians who are oppressed so this is a wider picture. And the government's never done anything to give Palestinians back their land. Rather it was the British government that gave Israelis Palastine. This has been for decades. Do you think Boris is gonna say "right, Israel get out and stop your oppression".
Even if some mps were to speak up there are always people on the higher level that won't change it. They are allies to one another(and we ordered to be allies to one another too) they're not gonna break off from their allies because of justice, 1 because they are enemies to Muslims also they too carry out injustices and so hide behind others injustices so they are not called out for theirs as well as their interests.
Allah Ta'ala has already told us and the Prophet has pathed the way. Let's even say OK we will protest, what kind of people join? Also, there are alot of agendas that people have against us and use that as an opportunity, for example Jews coming to protests trying to make us love them or sympathise with them(long discussion), they use this as a weapon just as the Christians have and is a major part why we are like this, they are smart and most of us think the love us spread vids about their protests with Muslims. As they say, bring your enemies closer than your friends and we are in trap. Wake up.
We are not permitted to live in their lands so who are we to demand Masjid etc from them. We have a contract(legal papers to stay such as serving the country),also so that doesn't include us demanding what we want.
The humiliation is not just Palestinian, it's all over. And that because it's the state of the Ummah, not what the enemies are doing per se.
People need to come back to the Qur'aan and Sunnah. And as the shiekh said we think we have it in our hands(the power of change towards leaders). We should ask from Allah aline after practicing the Way the He orders us to take. The Qur'aan is a book of guidance. If we don't seek the means(people coming back to the Deen) and ask Allah then we will continue in the humiliation. Allah is the One who could change their hearts to do what we want and need once we come with what we are required. Not by not praying, fasting, giving zakat, free mixing, no hijab fahsha etc then shouting aside doors and most of the time violence. Do you think Allah is pleased with that? Being in your own land and oppressed is one thing and be else where where you are not in the face of danger is another thing. Even if you are in Palestine today, is being an excuse for us to not wear hijab, play music etc(not saying anything of the Palestinians)?
Demonstrations are begging the kufar. And you are not to. The majority of the people who go for Demonstrations don't even practice their Deen so you think Allah will give them victory against leaders who are politically shut and themselves are oppressors.
This is a long discussion. Protesting I begging and scream "you have power over us, help us or don't hurt us or give us" these begging and giving power to is only for Allah and only He can give us, protect us, help us. Majority don't even pray how do expect Allah will give power and honour back to the Ummah. People don't even know their religion and Majority of them are hypocrites and start barking for the wrong reasons or when it only touches them and not when Allah or His Deen are attacked(not saying demos needed then).
It's like knowing you have a coward child yet saying go and beat up the entire playground. You have to teach your child to be brave and how to defend themselves. So don't think oh we can just learn and sit at home and be quiet. The knowledge required of course which 1st is Tawhiid. People are going about having Christmas parties yet claim to be Muslims youbthink Allah is gonna put power in to their cries. Allah is the One who subjugate the kufar and as a servant of Allah He can subjugate them in our favour.
Masjid being closed either is not a time for Demonstration. Allāh Ta'ala doesn't live in the Masajids and He can worshipped on earth and in houses. A letter of bring to attention can be written by those who are in some what in charge but NOT a letter demanding. When we demand we uphold democracy and soo much more. If they refuse after even an reminder then Al Hamdulilāh the entire earth was given to us. We have already been given the entire earth,we don't need to beg. And it's even more incumbent on us to migrate to a Muslim land. If a Muslim leader banned a Masjid then that letter can be a demand as Muslims and tell them to fear Allah. But who are you to demand in their lands. Its like a guest demanding from you pork.
Read more often the Qur'aan, learn the Seerah and you'll understand why we should 1st and always ask only from Allah and never beg the kufar.
So you would have told hazrat hussein to sit and pray , than go out to Kerbala.
Muslim leaders are worse than western leaders. Look around you.
Protesting is not "begging". It is demonstrating an opinion and solidarity on a particular topic, and voicing truth and justice. Not all protests contain the elements you describe. As for banning them due to free mixing. Look around you in this world. Where can you avoid free mixing... In the Muslim or non Muslim world. During your daily life you have to encounter the opposite gender. Most of the Islamic struggle was fought before the commandments of hijab came down. Those women stood firm. It is denigrating to assume people showing up to speak up for justice and stand up to be counted are focused on fahisha. First ban free mixing everywhere. Muslims are supposed to show up for the Eid prayer in large numbers precisely to show solidarity and strength in unity of the ummah. That is the aim of protests. To show a united voice. It is the avenue open to us in the modern world
Yet again, someone acting like you can’t protest and demonstrate while also being a practicing religious muslim 😭
Your post aged really badly after this New war on 🍉 was started because so many things have happened that have proved your point wrong, and even in history. Do you think the steps toward correcting injustice never started with protest?? The injust Vietnam war was eventually brought to an end because of intense protest in America, slavery was finally brought to an end because of first protest and activism which then lead to the civil war that finally saw slaves freed.
and the pal 🍉 people cried and were relieved to see messages of support from the protesting American universities, and made videos thanking them! Astaghfirullah, and you’re trying to advocate for taking away what is now their only hope for a change in their country.
The audacity to even think you can claim that the Jews and Christians have some kind of agenda, I mean what is this? Can they never do anything right according to you, even when they HELP us you have something to say. who are you to judge their hearts and motivations, many of these people started out just protesting and ending up joining the deen too.
I dearly hope you reconsider your points. Nobody is “begging” kuffar, we’re trying to force and pressure them, not “beg” on our knees. We absolutely have the right to do that if our tax money is being sent to murder people, so yes it does affect us. As for moving to a Muslim country, as we can see, these “muslim” leaders are also disgusting and corrupt, so it seems that according to you we’d be left with nothing to do but keep silent and just let them burn children in peace! Most of the time for anything else we’d say make dua and also effort in this life. Suddenly this is an exception? I make plenty of dua and yet I also still want to protest, it’s not mutually exclusive.
We muslims are supposed to be doing jihaad but our governments are doing nothing and hindering the muslim ummah to go after their duties.
U need to first change your profile pic:)
What jihad? Muslims are not ready to do no jihad
Finally I’ve been waiting for someone to speak on this
Listen to brother shamsi too
This is old the brother have a whole video on this topic, when it comes to protesting
Shamsi has a better explanation
@@sadiqismail6372 what shamsi??
@@saraelmi875 Shamsi dus dawah he explains it better
Protesting or demonstrating is not gonna do anything for Palestine. Muslims should stop expecting and begging things from the كفّار. Only solution is to go back to Qur'an and Authentic Sunnah, with the understanding of the three best generations. Only solution is Tawheed. May Allah guide us all.
O Allah bless these two men. I do benefit their Islamic lectures. Jazakallah khayr
Ask the Palestinians- their opinion of protest, from their own words, when they see mass protests, especially in places like London and across the globe, they confirm, “ when we see you protest, it boosts our morals, we feel we are not alone, the support keeps us motivated and alive, especially in the dark times we are in, facing death, your protests give us reason to keep fighting for justice”
There is no use arguing with these people. They are like Christians. They will defend leaders over the good of the believers at all costs no matter what.
You might not agree with them but don't ever think or say a Muslim as christan let alone when they are daees
@@jamesalston7474yess bro my blood boiled with salafi secth...😡😡,seems like ignorant and selfish
@@jamesalston7474fear Allāh ! You will be asked about this takfir on the day of Judgement. A Muslims follows the Qur’ān and Sunnah. This is not a religion led by emotion. “Allāh (سبحانه وتعالى said”, The Prophet (ﷺ) said…”
@@layman- They are like Christians in the sense that their arguments are against logic, Quran, and Sunnah but they are unwilling to except evidence on that matter. And just like Christians when they are presented with proof they are wrong they stay firm upon falsehood.
Why do people want to follow their desires so badly. We humans can be very stubborn at times.
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
this is a dumb question. its called "desire" for a reason
Yes because how dare those stubborn Palestineans want to fight against Israel who is trying to genocide them? Those people are just following their desires.
@@mysticia4582haha spot on
What kind of stupid point is this. Protesting comes from wanting to help your oppressed brothers in Palestine or wanting better living standards for you & your family where you live. This is a desire to do good, not a base desire like the known ones of gluttony, sexual desire, greed etc. Unbelievable conflation.
Brother sitting there and speaking and has all this freedom due to protest done in the past for racism, human rights and freedom. Yet, he is denying protest does not bring a change.
So your criteria is your opinion and what seems correct to you instead of the shariah. This video aint for you.
@@elafzal5866 LOL the same shariah called for Muslim countries to help Palestine but instead UAE supplying aid to Israel and Saudi blocking Yemen to support the Palestinians.
Don’t reference shariah law when it’s convenient and is not abided by all Muslims as it loses value.
Brother is talking about islam and what is legislated in islam according to quran and sunnah.
was waiting for this!! keep Palestine in your prayers everyone
Beyond prayer, we have to act. Engage in an intellectual and strategic manner to spread the voice of Palestine, especially now that they are trying to silence them by cutting them off from the world and censuring whoever is speaking up for them via socials. Prayer is step nr.1, step nr.2 is to study the cause and step nr.3 is to spread the voice. And this is also what the prophet sws did after the first revelation. First, gather a small group, and then spread the knowledge and reality.
@@YasDD-z5qBeyond prayer?? What power do you or anyone else hold that will lead to resolution without the Will of Allah? There is nothing beyond asking Allah for help, for He is the One and Only who has full control over all affairs.
Dear brother, assalamu aleikum. There might be a misunderstanding of the matter. I have in NO absolute term said or meant that the resolution will come in another way than the Will from Allah swt. Our beloved Prophet Muhammed himself sws told us to do more than just pray or make dua if we have the means to. Please, find the hadith quoted below:
On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.”
(Muslim, Hadith 34, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi) @@MK-oj6hd
@@MK-oj6hdgo ahead now and tell the people of 🍉 who thanked the American protestors for standing by them and fighting for their cause, and were their only hope now for a change in their country that you think those protests were wrong 😂 go ahead and also say that Colombia uni actually considering divesting from isr is considered “does not help”.
I'm still to see a protest that had a positive effect where the government has actually acted upon the demonstrators demands ... Never saw that in my life...
Vietnam? The student protests? South Africa?
Palestine... In the concentration camps, kids are being held without trial. They protest, they strike and sometimes it works. I can provide receipts In Sha Allah.
Are you still saying there's never been a positive effect
3 Scholars who permitted protests in the disbelievers land:
- Sheikh In Uthaimeen RA
- Sheikh Ibn Jibreen RA
- Sheikh Hani Jubair
And many others
I'd like to believe you, can you please share the references
Produce your evidence.
As a scholar said ask someone in Palestine or that country for fatwa not someone sitting at the comfort of UK. Allah knows best.
He doesn’t live in the UK anymore if I’m not mistaken .
@MsFNA yes, ask the schoalrs of palestine, obviously as u said, islam is not different. I'd rather take islam by someone struggling in the way of Allaah, than a guy sitting in comforts of a murtad-ruled country UAE
No scholars there just متبرجات و ديايثة
@@troysmith420 this is not an aqeedah question so your question is blah
@MsFNA very relevant but when they are discussing issues that will likely relate to people on those locations then they should bring those from there. We are talking of classical scholars that have said go and ask the scholars of such and such as that matter is what happens in their location. See don’t worship any student of knowledge. There is good and mistake/opinion that does not necessarily.... so relax on that. All in all Allah knows best.
SubahanAllah very informative, exhausted all pros and cons and a thorough discussion. In the end, it all boils down to the last and the strongest point Sheikh Abdul Rahman mentioned. May Allah preserve him,
Please give me the time stamp of that strongest point.
@Exfoliated Elbow huh???
@Exfoliated Elbow ok.
@@shahinsainu1909 I think it starts from 19:24.
@@salmanzayd8600jazakallah khaer
Dont protest for Palestine.
Dont rebel against treacherous regimes.
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Unbelievable
@@anasibndawood6696
"Obey treacherous rulers and everything will be fine".
I wonder if that helped at all lol
@@sali3492 No, everything will not be fine. Currently, Palestineans are living under literal aparthied. Their homes are being destroyed and bombed, entire families are being wiped out, they are facing countless injustices from the Israeli regime. Go ahead and tell these people to obey the Israelis and everything will magically be ok. Go ahead.
How's that looking for you guys now 3 years later? All these protests haven't changed a thing.
Protest/ demonstration they're saying is haram. In the way the western world does it.
But you can still protest / boycott in less haram ways
Half of those people protesting cant even get up and pray fajr and they want Allah to give them victory.
How do you come up with this statistical judgement? We can't make such claims..
Half? How'd you come up with that number ?
It's called a hyperbole in the English language , exaggerating to make your point stronger.
Making a personal opinion without facts
The replies are not making sense. If all those protesters woke up for fajr then why are the masajid so empty at fajr but the protests is full of thousands?
The interviewer tried to be realistic, big credit to him
The arguments against protest in non-Muslim lands when people know it is not worship are weak.
The good of the protest (the cause people are protesting for) is often greater than any harms (haraams) connected to protest. The good out weights the evil. For example, protesting to help Palestinians (to save the blood of Muslims) is a greater good than any evil that may come from the protest.
Also it can be argued often protest are the lesser of two evils. So often what people are protesting in non-Muslim countries is stopping a greater evil continuing or a greater evil raising than the evils connected to the protest. Thus protest in non-Muslim countries is the lesser of two evils.
What good of protest is often greater? The harm is worse multiple elements of haram are in this with results of barely anything people have been protesting for years yet still their government is still funding Israel what good came out?
Frankly majority of scholars agree it’s not permissible just some scholars who claim this Ibn Baz, Ibn Taymiyyah, Al Albani, Al Rajhi and more
Protest is not Haram, to do haram things whilst protesting is Haram.
Well think about how the protest are being handled. Men and women mixing, music and dancing….holding up nationalistic flags while chanting la ilaha illallah. If we want change we need to return back to Quran and Sunnah for thats the only way we can make a change and by that is…..reading on how Allah (swt) has ordered us to do it and the Sunnah
@@salmanmussa6866 I agree that change will only come from Allah but there is nothing wrong with taking means. و ما النصر الا من عند الله العزيز الحكيم
Really miss the podcast, when will new ones come out?
I believe they're going to try and answer all of the questions from the Khuruj podcast, but I could be mistaken. Apparently they were inundated with emails about it, so it may be a while. But these podcasts take preparation and a reason for doing them, so I think for now there may just not be any for a good amount of time. Allah knows best.
@@AH23232 جزاك الله خيرًا
@@Kardu3 وإياك
@@AH23232 May Allaah bless you, did Ustadh mention that he will answer the questions? السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته
@@العقيلي-ف7و وعليكم السلام ورحمة الله وبركاته
Allah knows best, but I would assume he will. I don't think he said that explicitly though. Inshaa'Allah if you look through his Surat Kahf/Yunus series it may be there somewhere. Other than that it may be in his Arabic Grammar series. Can't remember exactly where. May Allah bless you too :)
Jazakumallahu khair brothers, it was a very needed discussion which shed light on many issues I had. There's one area that I need clarification on, you mentioned shaykh 'uthaymeen has the opinion that if there's a greater harm (ie, the masajid being closed) then protesting is allowed, I was wondering isn't the lives of the Muslims more dear to Allah than a Masjid [The hadith, that the Muslim blood is more beloved to Allah than the ka'bah]? Could we argue every time a Muslim's life is in danger anywhere in the world, we can protest in the countries that can bring about a change for that/those Muslim(s)?
The UK and US are not going to bring about change for Palestine, their choices were made before this even started.
@@alhomsiyyah hence the one who should move is the people itself. So, in this case, it has greater cause than just "protest or demonstrate is forbidden".. it is better to speak rather than silence. As simple as that
Isn't protesting speaking up Against an unjust ruler?
I've been to protests where there have been no problems....there is always a chance of criminals doing bad anywhere and in any situation....I dont think the argument that the brother is using against protesting is strong enough to say its haraam....specially since sometimes my choice is between going to a protest and watching a movie at home!😂
Also protesting is not the crux of democracy....what democracy? Even petitionng the MP is not democratic, cause they don't listen!
Plus the issue of not fighting in Palestine is not a ruling issue, its a political choice!
Some polemics are talking about "Bukharigate" and "problematic hadiths". Could this not be the next subject of the Hot Seat Podcast?
Totally disagree with this.
1. When I was in Syria I often heard 'The Syrians are peace loving, they will never uprise' ( Obviously now we know the Syrians were being prepared not to defend themselves, when their own 'Leaders' would inflict them )
It's crystal clear that narrative was being pushed to make the people cowards; at a time when their children, women and old would need them the most.
2. People advocating to remain silent in cases of injustice, is a narrative being pushed by the elite and those in power ( They want to hold on to their power at every cost)
3. Did Musa (PBUH) wait for Pharoah to leave his throne?
4. Did the handful of youth ( In Surah Kahf) not stand up against their Ruler and speak up?
4. Finally, what the masses are doing around the Globe is not Revolting. They are showing solidarity to the Oppressed, educating others and saying to the Oppressors that their Brutal Occupation is Unacceptable.
5. Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hands; and if he is not able to do so, then with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith [ Muslim]
Thank you
What good is the protest and what's happen to Syria now?
Second if the protest is gonna be Done can u be certain its fulfill the Islamic conditions of eg no free mixing etc?
Allah commanded musa to speak directly to firaun and he made doa for that .Will u face the leader directly the way Musa did or u afraid u be put into prison?
Islam is not about emotions.
@@alexandriaDMR do u hold the position of going to a public school as being haram due to free mixing and the many other blatant and clear mafasid? And if it is why is that issue not as heavily defended as protesting?
@@timmccoin7818 yes I do and if u trying to be civilised about that and saying each to their own then u simply ignoring the fact.Some take it as a place to even date.To be honest with the protest comes risk and would u like the police smothering women body to body ? Would u like to see evidence for that? Have some gherrah bro don't use your emotions
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 since when prophets are come to the people but not set as examples? Then I am afraid u don't understand your dean enough..
He started well and then went downhill quickly. To say it's "haram" is audacity and impudence.
I think he knows better than you. Who are you?
Isn't it fardh for the armies of Muslim countries to intervene in Gaza? To liberate the oppressed, Al Aqsa and the occupied lands?
i have seen people say when they are advised to just make dua for the oppressed people, they say something along the lines "what is dua alone going to do? we have to project our efforts into *cue this action that goes against the sunnah* because it will help us achieve this much faster
Wallahi these people are some of the maddest muslims😕
@@محمدالحربي-ط9ح4ب exactly
You're definitely a madkhali, the type when seeing an old lady get beat in public say "let me go back to the masjid to make dua" LOL
@@servantofgod1374 are you okay?
There's a big difference between doing something which will immediately help the situation and doin something which will most unlikely help the situation.
Defending the Old lady will most likely help her. But the Palestinians goin to fight the Israelis or us protesting is very unlikely to bring about any change.
Again millions have protested before and nothing has changed. Never mind all the evils that can intercept protests.
@@servantofgod1374
You good bro?🤨
Man asked if we can watch David Attenborough 😂
It is very disheartening that we preaching to the ordinary practising Muslim, who's trying their best through marches & sharing videos and images through social media, to voice their condemnation of the Israeli atrocities, condemn by the UN and many International Human Rights organizations and activists, some even calling it war crimes!
It's even more disturbing, that we observe some modern-day Salafis are even have the audacity of questioning the validity (bidah or not) of Muslim demonstrations, Subgan-Allah!
These preachings should rather be aimed at the leaders of the majority Muslim countries. They condemned with little actions! We know that the 4 Arab countries signed the so-called "deal of the century" Abraham Accord was all about greed. "Normalisation ties" that the Palestinians responded by saying that they've been stabbed in the back. Then there are the countries, that allow Israeli aeroplanes to fly over the airspace.
The current supplicated Digital Age, never existed during the period of the Prophet (SWA) nor in the 3 generations that followed. Indeed, we should perform our Islamic duties in conjunction with obligatory Belief, Salah, Zakat, Sawm & Hajj (if you by the means) and the social media, to voice our condemnation and disgust of the illegitimate Occupation and Oppression of Palestine; their sufferings; blockade; siege; strangle-hold; water-contamination, etc. The list just goes on. No, we cannot sit back and "preach to the converted"!
Finally, Forty Hadith of an-Nawawi:
On the authority of Abu Sa`eed al-Khudree (may Allah be pleased with him) who said:
I heard the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) say, “Whosoever of you sees an evil, let him change it with his hand; and if he is not able to do so, then [let him change it] with his tongue; and if he is not able to do so, then with his heart - and that is the weakest of faith.” [Muslim]
Reference: Hadith 34, 40 Hadith an-Nawawi
👏👏👏👏👏 I think it would have been better if Abdal Rahman Hassan stayed at home instead of making this podcast, rather than protesters staying at home.
42:37 Ustadh I understand you can make dua and have patience as you mentioned earlier on in the video, however I just wanted to know in terms of allowing your voice to be heard, what is a stronger way for the Muslims to get their voice heard in a non Muslim country, as you said in a Muslim neseeha can be done Muslims will talk to the leader but in a non muslim country this is unlikely...
so what would be a stronger way and a stronger effort to be heard? Also how do we decide whether or not the matter were protesting for will do greater harm then protesting it self.... in example the free Palestine movement, is the situation of the people in Palestine; being blown up, dispositioned and attacked, is that harm to those people greater than the harm that will come from us protesting and how do we measure that?
@Efron F okay I see, I don’t know if I’m reaching here or wrong from this deduction but would I be right in saying...
we’re just trying to get to the basics what is the long term plan does it stop at raising awareness or do we carry on protesting until the matter is actually solved in this example... would it just be the ceasefire or the removal of isrealis at a whole? if it has a long term goal how are we gonna get it through protesting does it turn to arms or any other method....
So possibly for short term goals you may be able to outweigh the bad that protesting causes... however if the goal is more long term you may not outweigh the bad that happens from protesting... Or you might be better off having another means of action for achieving that long term goal.
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
@@alia-wm8ug the west has fooled us into thinking it is our actions that have an impact, and not by the will of Allah.
@@mindlessprocrastination6630 of course it's the will of Allah but Allah needs to see actions from us
@@alia-wm8ug Tajekistan.... terrible...
Mashallah to the other brother for questioning and not just rolling over straight away. I feel Ustadh started off strongly debunking how the innovation and rebelling against a Muslim ruler points don't hold weight, but his reasoning that it 'distracts people from the remembrance of Allah' or that by not demonstrating at all it will 'destroy democracy' are equally as weak. The fact of the matter is you can't prove that protesting IN AND OF ITSELF is haram. As the brother mentioned a scenario where only brothers are protesting against british support of Israel, not to get closer to Allah, and this happens between salah times there is nothing wrong with that.
A structured approach to the subject and interesting discussion.
I feel like it was a stretch to make the principles set out in the beginning fit with the conclusion he tried to draw on the issue. There's 'free mixing' in supermarkets and haram things being sold there, lower your gaze and have some self control. Also looting and riots is being conflated with peaceful marches and protests in this video. Its a custom of the west (but not exclusively) for 100s of years.
It doesn't matter if we are sure or not if its going to work, we are just following the means available to us, all of them. Literally been weeks of protests in London over Palestine. Peaceful and no harm. Plenty of places one can pray if one was going to anyway (as one should). It does draw people and allies to the cause and raises awareness on issues that could easily be hidden otherwise.
In reality most of the arguments here could be said about the internet, social media and TH-cam, yet here we are.
I do agree that we shouldn't protest over trivial matters.
You mentioned Shaykh 'uthaymeen has the opinion that if there's greater harm (ie, the masajid being closed) then protesting is allowed, so I wonder in the present situation where Isreal is killing thousands of people in Gaza .can we protest for the people of Palestine? cuz if we dont pressurize the UN and demand a cease-fire then millions of lives in Gaza will be lost .
Did they listen
If you disagree or don’t care, that is fine.. just don’t insult the palestinians, they are alraedy opressed.
Just ask protestors these simple questions. Does protesting work? Has it changed anything? Has it ever helped anyone? Protesting is useless.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 yes they did have an effect. if it was not convenient for the elites the protest would not take place or the movement would be demonised. The success of protests is determined by the elites. They muster support and make the movement appeal to the general public or do the opposite. Protests are just a tool for them by which they can get support for a cause or demonise a cause. If they want the cause to succeed then the good publicity of the protest would prevail such that the public will support it once they become aware of it. Otherwise the opposite happens where the protesters are kept minimal, unheard or mocked tin-hat wearing conspiracy theorists by which a movement is only belittled. The elites can make it one way or another to change public perception, that’s all it takes. So do not think the protest comes from the people, it’s a spark started according to the convenience of those in control. A spark they add fuel to by mass media and other publicity.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 call it Monkey’s theory then.
I didn’t say all protests come from the elite. But it will only have mass support if it gets out in the public eye, aka by permission of the elite because its convenient. Otherwise they would crackdown on the movement or belittle it with mockery. Of the ways to win against an enemy without fighting is to demonise them especially by having someone infiltrate them and humiliate them with uncivilised savagery. Or to provoke them until they have no choice but to explode in reaction and then to capture their reaction.
You talk about people cracking down on the civil rights movement initially. Ask yourself who was doing that? Why were they doing that? The south especially was excessively racist, sudden changes can lead to civil war and a paradigm shift in government acceptance towards coloured people by giving them more rights would not be tolerated by half of the USA. This acceptance had to be drilled into their heads overtime. To the point that even today racism has not been purged yet it matters not since the movement was successful and the elites gave it the green light to go. The government has to act like it’s with the people, every step of the way relating to them in order to gradually change overtime. Sudden changes in major attitudes won’t be received well, so there is no surprise the civil rights movement was initially met with overwhelming opposition only to be eventually brought into the masses with acceptance and sympathy.
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 but i just made it a theory right now, you witnessed it, why you gotta disagree man :(
It’s now called Monkey’s theory
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 you’re just being silly rn.
“You even admit that”... you just didn’t understand. Maybe you’ll understand when you get older
@@abdul-hadidadkhah1459 i don’t force you to accept them and to me you’re still my brother in faith !
Jazaka-Allah khairan. But in a situation like that of the Palestine, how do we go about it as Muslims? Should we just fold our hands and see them being brutally massacred by the Israelites when we can use podcast like this to raise awareness? If protest, even hypothetically the peaceful one is haram, how about doing podcasts and the use of other forms of social media to bring to the attention of the world about the realities of the suffering Muslims are facing in different parts of the glob?
Protest? This is collective amr bil-maruf and nahy anil-munkar
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.
A band of Muslims must go out and condemn the evil of murdering innocent Muslims and enjoining the resistance against the murderers and thieves
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Rise for Allah, in ones and twos
Allah says in the Qur'an:
What's wrong with you that you do not fight in the way of Allah while the oppressed men, women and children call?
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Allah does not love loud odious words except for him who has been done an injustice, and Allah has been Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing.
The companion and Prophet's grandson Husayn ibn Ali and his companions rose against the caliph of their time Yazid in protest as recorded by the consensus of historians through saheeh hadith
The tabi' tabi'i Zayd ibn Ali, again a great great grandson of the Prophet, and his companions rose against Hisham the caliph in protest by the consensus of all historians through saheeh hadith
The Sunnah is clear:
Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri reported that the prophet Muhammad said, "Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith"
When we have the freedom to speak, we must change it with our tongues. Otherwise we are going against the saheeh hadith of the Prophet.
The Qur'an and Sunnah and practice of Salaf call to rising up as a band of Muslims, even if one or two, loudly condemning the unjust and joining the struggle to liberate oppressed men, women, and children
Only the CIA wants these verses and saheeh hadith and consensus history to be forgotten in order to favour Israel and Saudi Arabia. Don't be their pawn. Be the soldier of Allah and follow the path of the Prophet, his Family and his Noble Companions.
@@thescholiast5118 What is Saudi Arabia got to do with Israel? I agree with most of your points. However, in the end you swept in a religious sectarianism, I don't understand. Do you have a problem with Saudi Arabia? I think you can make your points clear without taking that trajectory, because Saudi Arabia, Egypt and other Arab countries did a lot in trying to bring an end to the atrocities of Zionists against the Palestinians in the past. The documents and footages are out there. I didn't completely agree with what Sheikh Hasan said, considering the circumstances of the Muslims today, because at least if you don't have the political power and authority to stop the evil, you can speak against it through social media platforms and postcards such as the one he did, instead of completely discouraging the Muslims from doing nothing.
@@abdullahimohammad9513
Saudi Arabia is very close to the United States, the greatest sponsor of Israel and the greatest supplier of Israeli weaponry
King Salman dances with Trump
Prince MBS praises Jared Kushner who initiated the Deal of the Century which normalised Arab relations with Israel
Saudi Arabia has done more bombing Yemeni Muslims than lifting a finger for Palestine
Shamefully, Saudi Arabia has bombed Yemen longer than Israel has bombed Gaza
Sorry. The Qur'an and Sunnah does not allow me to sugarcoat the murder of Yemeni civilians and the cooperation with the Greatest Friend of Israel.
Allah commands me to speak the truth as it is.
Also, the Saudis are sponsoring people to preach against criticising oppressive rulers. This is against Qur'an and Sunnah. We are commanded by Allah to condemn injustice and change it whenever we can, and when we can't then to speak against it, and only when we can't speak then to hate it in our hearts.
For those of us who have the freedom to speak against atrocities of unjust rulers, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, we must speak.
This has nothing to do with sectarianism. Nobody is calling anybody a kafir or anything like that. It's just calling a regime or a ruler unjust because of its actions.
@@thescholiast5118 wow you know better than all the ulema apparently
@@ابوآسيةالسويسري
I am an alim myself. Why do you think anyone who is on TH-cam is a layman?
And no, I am not the only alim either.
I see you have no answer to the perfect evidence from Qur'an, Sunnah and Salaf. But instead you follow the ahbaar (rabbis) of your own hizb (sect)
Allah says:
They have taken as lords beside Allah their rabbis and their monks
Beware of every Mukhazzil and every Murjif in these times!
Fuqaha have mentioned in the books of Fiqh that two types of people must be kept in check & prohibited by the Ruler:
1. Mukhazzil: one who demotivates people from Jihād, makes them stay back from it. The one who frightens people, by saying: "Our enemy is large in numbers, our horses are weak, and we have no strength against them."
2. Murjif : one who speaks about the strength of the Kuffar & weakness of Muslims; one who makes many ramifications, by saying: such-and-such a company was killed, or enemy reinforcements followed them from such-and-such direction, or they had an ambush in such-and-such a place.
3minutes before the end of the video, conclusion finally arrived - protesting in a non Muslim country is permissible if we have to choose a lesser harm, if the greater harm would come if we didn't protest.
Well that is the point of a podcast like this.
Oh ok protesting is haraam. Should have the government who has already THE "correct manhaj" to help them than, saving them from making protest. U think the Palestinian people making protest just to have fun is it?
I think the problem here in the debating happening around 32:00 ish, is why people still dont want to accept that demonstration is haram and always say with what if we can make it ideal and all that, is they are stubborn in not wanting to follow a dalil and trying to to circumvent the dalil, because they think their logic is better than wahyu/dalil. Scary stuff if you have placed your intelect in front of quran and sunnah. May Allah protect us from our own intellect.
Edit: a good followup video to this would be from Abu Mussab, Palestine: You've Been Decieved th-cam.com/video/wW3yNZvfbes/w-d-xo.html
Bro these celebrity daees don't have to be correct.
You have to stand up to the zaalim.
@@samisyed2370 I'm confused brother, who are you trying to please? Is it yourself? Other people? Or Allah?
Standing up to dzalim IN THE CORRECT WAY that will please Allah is whats important. The ustadz Abdurahman Hassan hafidhaullah is a God fearing man; he may be young, but he is knowledged and wise. May Allah protect the ustadz and us all as an ummah.
@@m.agilnajib345 trying to always please Allah obviously.
But when a robber breaks in my house. I won't pray nawafil while he empties my safe.
@@samisyed2370 Ayy brother... we're not talking about robbers breaking into our houses...are we now? Defending yourself against danger is wajeeb, do what you must to save yourself and your family from immediate harm.
Don't change the subject now. Focus focus... This is about participating in a demonstration.
Honestly idk what conclusion to come to our of this podcast.
1. I understand the problems of protesting e.g.men touching women inappropriately but also you need to know that women are also sexually harrased at the Ka'aba.
2. The sheikh said if the issue is bigger then the protest should be done, but isn't what's happening in Palestine currently the bigger issue bigger than what's happening in protests. Children are being killed,sold, murdered,raped and Allah will question us why we didn't say anything about it.
3. As much as protesting has it's negatives it also has it's positives because a lot of ppl learn about what's happening by asking the crowds and social media blowing up .
4. What can we do to help though? We can't just sit by and watch and say protesting is haram so I can't do it but what else can we do. The so called Muslim leaders are quiet and the ppl need to pressure the government for a change.
Idk what conclusion to come to wallahi. May Allah help us all. We're all confused in this ummah and our Muslim ummah is slowly falling apart. May Allah protect our Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine and all over the world.
Ameen
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
Why constantly harp on BLM and completely ignore the civil rights movement?
Demonstrations only demonstrates how powerful the weak leaders are .
*_Masha'Allah, a valuable lesson._*
I'd be interested to hear their opinion now with the current unprecedented war in Palestine.
Asking humbly not challenging them or attacking the knowledge shared here.
i find it fascinating how brothers are disagreeing with the given arguments despite the level of knowledge and wisdom of Ustadh abdurrahman Hassan. They try to bring in emotions into their speech making them no different to ahlul ahwa. May Allah guide them
According to him going to the market is Haram. There’s music, free mixing, selling of haram..... wasting time......
The "freemixing" in the market is something that took place even in the time of the Prophet ﷺ, it clearly doesn't fall into the prohibition of freemixing.
As for the music, then this is something out of our control, which is why we limit going to the market for what is necessary. We can't stay in a place where music is played for no reason.
As for wasting time, I don't know what evidence he has for saying that is haram. That seemed to be strange reasoning.
The hypothetical situation that was mentioned at around 38:40 did happen before with Shaykh Tahir Wyatt where there was a peaceful brothers only protest. It did not have anything that was mentioned of freemxing, looting etc.
We never protested with Dr Tahir. We had a khutbah in center city Philadelphia. It was not a protest. We prayed and left
Again very small example , 98% of protests turn violent and are haram for muslims as the brother mentioned
@@Eleidig007 well Eid prayers are becoming Haram here with mixing and fitna . So should we stop going to Eid prayers?
How is a public gathering a protest? lol. No it was just a regular khutbah.
As for Palestinians being their own enemy what I mean by that is we are the reason the help of Allah has not come yet. The enemy doesn’t actually have any power against us if the help of Allah is with us. Too many verses to quote on this!
@Life lesson und Islam why would you not do it in center city if given the opportunity. You’re not making any sense. Regardless May Allah guide us all and forgive us our short comings. Thank you for the conversation.
Many times I feel the one who interviews is trying to argue against something that is understandable.
You can't control a protest.. Yeah you might have organized a protest for man only.. but if you go out the doors and a bystander/outsider joins the protest let's say a woman? Are you going to kick them out right away? If so will it than not cause a arguement? What might lead to chaos.. making someone angry etc. What if a Man is joining your protest? and have is own means to use your protest to cause something to happen.. like putting graffiti on the walls? Like Cursing? Etc.
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ I know that's the entire point akhi. That's why I said it.
Dont focus on lrotest focus on boycotting... Dont by products.. Services.... This is what we ahould be talking about.
There is only one reason for the agents of oppreive rulers: protection of the oppresive rulers.
I wonder how they keep a straight face
Are u ready to meet Allah with this statement ?
@@alexandriaDMR Are you not going to ask for Daleel for the statemment instead of an emotional threat? That's usually the approach of the so-called saved sect until you approach their bread and butter.
@Ibn Kamal Al-Hanbali the ones protecting these rulers are following desires actually since that's what these rulers promote
@Ibn Kamal Al-Hanbali jazzak allah khayr akhee u spoke to haq Allah reward you
A really amazing video which has been beneficial for me and alot of other muslims im sure. But i would really appreciate timestamps or a small timestamp for the conclusion on whether its permissible or not.
Jazakallah :)
@Exfoliated Elbow.
The Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas.
Take time out and learn about the Deen.
We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time!
Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
The Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas.
Take time out and learn about the Deen.
We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time!
Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
@Exfoliated Elbow . What's ur point? Are u ok?
All I said why the answer was not short!
Who are you tell people not to listen to the sheikh!!!! Fear Allah and delete your comments
Calm down, no one is arguing.
@Exfoliated Elbow . No judgment made, it was simple explanation.
Encouraging people to learn about the Deen
But you seem to be up to something,
Carry on, I made my point.
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Valid points,
Did Saud and co do khurooj against the Kahlifahtul Muslimeen by allying against the non believers? If so, is the rule of the Saud legitimate over Hijaz or should it be overturned?
The ottomans never controlled najd , so it doesn't apply.
@@yasinibrahimthe ottoman empire which has historical and religious ties to Islam and its two most holiest sites (Makkah and Madinah) somehow just didn’t have authority over it? Looool
@@shefhenko do you know where najd is?
@@yasinibrahim| did they not pledge allegiance to the khalifatul muslimeen? Are you saying it’s ok to ally with non believers and attack Muslims?, or even worse fight the rule of the khilafah?
Allaah bless you for always speaking the truth!
Aameen
Its Allah and His Messenger (Peace be upon him) who always Speak the truth
Anyone apart from that,
Their statement can be accepted or rejected
@@ibrahimdiriye319 well said akhi Ibrahim
@@ibrahimdiriye319
So when Allaah سبحانه وتعالى said in Sooratul Ahzaab 33:70
يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا اتَّقُوا اللَّهَ وَقُولُوا قَوْلًا سَدِيدًا
O you who believe! Keep your duty to Allah and fear Him, and speak (always) the truth.
Are we not included in this commandment?
@@ImansHomeschoolYes, we are Commanded to speak the Truth but the Truth is not attributed to us
There are times we will be right and times we will be wrong
We must ask Allah to keep us on the Straight Path
May Allah keep us on the Straight Path🤲
Why do these guys just not make hijra to a muslim country as the shaykh al-albani suggested? I can see why some muslims are calling this kind of talk the talk of madkhalis.
These two have already made hijrah and have advised the Muslims in the west to make hijrah. They have a podcast on the topic of hijrah in this series. To mention this is a view point of so called "madkhalis" when most of the people who have been given this label, are the same people who advise the Muslims who live where they are not able to establish their religion to make hijrah. Please do more research brother before making such statements unjustly.
@@yj9466 Thank for the correction kind Sir. I was aware they had moved to a Muslim country.
With due respect brother mufti taqi usmani from Pakistan has different opinion on protest with Hadith come and talk to darul uloom deoband india or come to Pakistan for better clarification.
Muslim parents protested outside a Birmingham primary school successfully stopped LGBT sex ed being taught to 4 year olds, without doing it they would have been taught this! How can you say there was no benefit to this or that it's haram because 'it prevents people from remember Allah' or its 'wasting time'? These are such weak arguments. There was no violence or looting! There was no inappropriate freemixing, no different to if the parents were collecting their children outside the school gates or any other place we go out of necessity by avoiding freemixing to the best of our abilities.
@Ibn Kamal Al-Hanbali No one is disputing rebelling against Muslim rulers is haram. Yes many protests which have used violence and looting have resulted in harm. Haram acts being done in protests in the Muslims lands does not make it haram to non violently protest a non-Muslim government which allows protest. What benefit has protesting ever done? Prevented our young Muslim children being taught homosexual education at school.
Dear sir,
Really what to know about your feedback regarding the peace agreement & military cooperation between UAE & ISRAEL in the light of Quran and Sunnah
@ابو بكر ابن محمد البربري ASSALAMUALIKUM akhi, sincerely I am just a common Muslim , I am searching for answers..if the Ustadh can speak about protest which is a political thing then why not on the question above ? Surely the agreement with Israel is worse than the protest
Jihad is the highest form of protesting when dawah/dialog has failed, so protesting is permissible. What will make protesting halal or haram is the why (reason), and the how (methodology) used. Protesting is part and parcel of commanding good and forbidding evil.
The believing men and believing women are allies of one another. They enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and establish prayer and give charity and obey Allah and His Messenger. Allah will have mercy upon them. Verily, Allah is Almighty and Wise.
Surat at-Tawba 9:71
Let there arise from you a nation inviting to good, enjoining what is right and forbidding what is wrong, and those will be the successful.
Surat Ali Imran 3:104
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ You are wrong Jihad is the highest from of protesting under the umbrella of commanding good and forbidding evil.
Before quoting great scholars (Hasan Al-Basri, Ahmad ibn Hanbal) from the past a question needs to be ask and answered. What you quoted were sayings about "rulers/leaders". Is what we see today like what the rulers and judges in the time of Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal (Umawiyyah and ‘Abbassiyah Khilaafah) were upon?
What type of rulers were Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal refering to? What is the United Nations (UN), or the 50 different rulers/governments who have all abandoned all/part of the Islamic Sharia'? Our fiqh al-waaqi‘ (knowldege of current regional/world events) is not the same as Hasan Al-Basri and Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
Ibn al-Qayyim said: The mufti or judge is not able to issue a fatwa or verdict without understanding two things:
(i) Understanding and having a good grasp of reality: he should have a good understanding of what is happening, on the basis of circumstantial evidence and other signs, so that he has a full understanding of it.
(ii) Understanding what is required in the light of these circumstances, which means understanding the ruling of Allah that He issued in His book or on the lips of His Messenger concerning this reality, then he should apply the one to the other
. I‘laam al-Muwaqqi‘een, 1/87
Shaykh al-Albaani said, "... The ruling on a thing is a projection of one’s understanding of it, and that cannot be achieved except by understanding the circumstances surrounding the issue for which they have to give an answer. This is one of the bases of giving rulings and fatwas in particular, and is one of the principles of knowledge in general..."
Su’aal wa Jawaab hawla Fiqh al-Waaqi‘, p. 14-16
Lastly, I have not giving Bay'ah (pledge of allegiance) to any ruler. I believe as Shaykh al-Albaani believed that there is no Bay'ah to the rulers today.
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ There are two matters/questions. (1) Have the ruler/government apostated (with proof from Allah)? And (2) is there a leader with support (scholars/military) to replace the current ruler/government. I say yes to question 1 and no to question 2.
A ruling can be given without necessarily having ways/means to implement that said ruling.
Shaykh al-Albaani views on Bay'ah in the link below.
th-cam.com/video/7xgSri7BCFU/w-d-xo.html
@Fisabilillah فِي سَبِيلِ ٱللَّٰهِ I agree with al-Shaykh Ibn Baaz. I just believe that when all else has failed Jihad (fighting/war) is the final form of protesting.
@@nadhirabdullahmillatuibrahimWhy didnt the sahaba and the Prophet peace be upon him, protest during 10 years of oppression and suffering before performing Jihad? Was Jihad the last option for them after protesting for 10 years? No, they didnt resort to demonstrations. Never. What was their methodology then? Patience, holding on to the Qu'ran and Sunnah, staying away from sin and enjoin good. Giving da'wah. Or making hijrah(Abisiniyah) Also, you have not contested that protesting is impermissible because of the reasons mentioned in the video, you just consider it permissible and to be exhausted before performing jihad. Also can you give evidence for Jihad being a form of protest? Can you also give your evidence for your reasoning for protests being permissible? How can the means be halal if the demonstrations are inherintly linked to the harms mentioned by Ustadh? Surely if there was any good in it, the Prophet peace be upon him and sahabah would have resorted to it cause they suffered the most of all.
@@elafzal5866 Your foundational principle of why Muhammad (ﷺ) and the Sahaba didn't protest during 10 years of oppression is wrong. The Quran was not completed in those first 10 years. Since the Quran is complete we are no longer living in the Meccan period only. Alcoholic drinks were banned in the fourth year of the Hijra (Muslims migration from Mecca to Medina). By your logic, alcohol can be consumed because it was consumed during the first 10 years of Islam.
Halal and Haram is determined by Allah. The general principle is that everything is halal except for what has been made haram by Allah. So, anyone claiming protesting is haram must provide proof for it being haram. Narrated Salman:" The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) was asked about fat, cheese, and furs, so he said: 'The lawful is what Allah made lawful in His Book, the unlawful is what Allah made unlawful in his Book, and what He was silent about; then it is among that for which He has pardoned.". sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1726 .Thus, Muhammad (ﷺ) referred to the general criterion for determining the halal and the haram. But since you wanted proof for protesting, then this verse is the proof, " You are the best nation produced as an example for mankind. You enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong and believe in Allah...".(3:110). Lastly, the proof that Jihad is a type of protest is this hadith; narrated by Abu Sa'id al-Khudri the Prophet (ﷺ) said: The best fighting (Jihad) in the path of Allah is to speak a word of justice to an oppressive ruler. sunnah.com/abudawud:4344 .The below video explains protesting in detail. You need to watch it.
th-cam.com/video/gliogAc2OQE/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=BroHajji
Two absolute weapons sat in the same room
What do you advise us to do instead of protesting while our muslim brothers and sisters are butchered in some places on this earth? Isn't the greatest jihad is upright honest words in the front of an oppressor? What's your solution?
Fixing ourselves so that we can be united on the truth and then be strong enough to defend the Muslims.
@@أبوشغل come to my country Indonesia, we'll teach you Islamic way of demonstration/protest. th-cam.com/video/0YETJDHJO_U/w-d-xo.html
@@أبوشغل🙃
Salam aleikum baraka Allah u fikum for the beneficial videos i have a question for ustadh abdelrahman when you described the da3wa of the prophets going to the people first, what came to my mind was musa (as) went to the leader of egypt at that time ? Or is it an exception ?
The Prophet himself speaking to the chiefs of Quraysh, The Prophet s.a.w. himself in the streets preaching to the pll included the Chiefs they attacked the Muslims for such.
The dawah of the prophets is to start with their household then expand. This is what the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم did and also Musa AS. He grew up in the house of pharoah and so started there. It's no exception brother
@@AB-xx7hy It was natural for the Rasul to start with his family, he was commanded to convey the msg, and they were the closest ppl to him...I don't see how you can make a judgment that Musa went to Firaun first simply bc he was brought up there...B/c we know he knew who his ppl were! Al we know is that he went there bc he was commanded to do so...We don't know the reason for whatever order.
Ok wait so if the threat is the murder of Muslim brothers and sisters in Palestine, does that constitute as a greater harm and does that then make protest the lesser of two harms? And I assume that this brother doesn't agree with social media then does him using the TH-cam platform to convey this message or any other message to reach those people whom he feels are wasting their time on that very platform make his means wrong? I would like to say I have been able to derive a conclusion for this but unfortunately I haven't rather more confused. In my opinion the threat that is currently present in Palestine is greater then the harm he has mentioned so in that regard would I be wrong in following the advice of Shaikh Al-‘Uthaimīn over whoever this brother is?
What would hearts who are lost do for Islam or for our brothers and sisters. Its not just Palestinians who are oppressed so this is a wider picture. And the government's never done anything to give Palestinians back their land. Rather it was the British government that gave Israelis Palastine. This has been for decades. Do you think Boris is gonna say "right, Israel get out and stop your oppression". Even if some mps were to speak up there are always people on the higher level that won't change it. They are allies they're not gonna break off from their allies because of justice, 1 because they are enemies to Muslims also they too carry out injustices and so hide behind others injustices so they are caught out.
Allah Ta'ala has already told us and the Prophet has pathed the way. Let's even say OK we will protest, what kind of people join? Also, there are alot of agendas that people have against us and use that as an opportunity, for example Jews coming to protests trying to make us love them or sympathise with them(long discussion).
We are not permitted to live in their lands so who are we to demand Masjid etc from them. We have a contract(legal papers to stay such as serving the country),also so that doesn't include us demanding what we want.
The humiliation is not just Palestinian, it's all over. And that because it's the state of the Ummah, not what the enemies are doing per se.
People need to come back to the Qur'aan and Sunnah. And as the shiekh said we think we have it in our hands(the power of change towards leaders). We should ask from Allah aline after practicing the Way the He orders us to take. The Qur'aan is a book of guidance. If we don't seek the means(people coming back to the Deen) and ask Allah then we will continue in the humiliation. Allah is the One who could change their hearts to do what we want and need once we come with what we are required. Not by not praying, fasting, giving zakat, free mixing, no hijab fahsha etc then shouting aside doors and most of the time violence. Do you think Allah is pleased with that? Being in your own land and oppressed is one thing and be else where where you are not in the face of danger is another thing. Even if you are in Palestine today, is being an excuse for us to not wear hijab, play music etc(not saying anything of the Palestinians)?
Demonstrations are begging the kufar. And you are not to. The majority of the people who go for Demonstrations don't even practice their Deen so you think Allah will give them victory against leaders who are politically shut and themselves are oppressors.
This is a long discussion. Protesting I begging and scream "you have power over us, help us or don't hurt us or give us" these begging and giving power to is only for Allah and only He can give us, protect us, help us. Majority don't even pray how do expect Allah will give power and honour back to the Ummah. People don't even know their religion and Majority of them are hypocrites and start barking for the wrong reasons or when it only touches them and not when Allah or His Deen are attacked(not saying demos needed then).
People are not scared of protests in the UK
in belguim you have to ask for promisoin, and that is een non muslim organitation, i asked to let some one recite the quran or do a doua thet was not aloud, only woman went up and get the raight to screem and shout the things that are not helping
fascinating video, very good education. would ask the presenters to translate a lot of the Arabic terminology which left me lost at times.
People should be following our prophet sullalahi alayhi wasalam. if he wouldn’t do it then DONT do it.
Brothers and sister please explain me conclusion.
So situation in palestine is very very bad. So is it valid reason to do it now?
i think the brother missed a few points, is that a demonstration in of itself doesn't have to be made for the ruler of the country you are in, especially if you didn't do a mubai'a and this happens way more often than you think. for example, 1 country can take over another country, or it's still happening so the people use protest because they don't have physical weapons and this is the only way to fight against an invading force like India and Britain.
protests are also used to gather people (increase confidence) to yes fight and cause damage if they were under occupation or a false leader. also you didn't answer what would the brother have done if a non Muslim country does destroy mosques and kill/ torture Muslims. china is currently doing it, France has already limited a lot who can wear the hijab and I'm pretty sure it totally prohibits niqab which is fard in islam.
what then? you don't weapons to fight the government, so you can't defend your hurma (sanctity) other than using protesting as a weapon
then we will need to discuss what makes a ruler a ruler in Islam. this alone changes a lot of things. also just because you say protests is the foundation of democracy, doesn't actually mean that it is objectively true.
furthermore, most "democratic" systems in the west isn't real democratic systems, by voting, you are practically making mubaia3a which the people have the right to do. kingship isn't the only system of ruling in Islam.
i can go on and on. as for saying there are bad things involved that are haram like free mixing and no control, well you can try elect leaders beforehand and sub leaders to look over the groups in the protest, basically, just look at the protests as war. they used to bring women with them in wars AND you couldn't control everybody in a war, some might even commit suicide or other haram things, does that mean wars are haram?
i feel like both brothers aren't looking at it in the right way. ow and btw, for the black lives matter, the cops that killed the man that started the whole thing got prison time which they would have never ever happened if there was no protest, and other cops that killed black people have also gotten into much more trouble for doing what they do for black people than before the protest. and generally, every time black people protested, they gave more rights to not only to themselves but to other minorities too. think of it as a type of war. most wars these days are fought online with no bloodshed, protests are wars with varying amounts of bloodshed and weapons. sometimes those weapons are numbers, sometimes it's burning liquids in bottles.
Niqab isn’t Fard
Niqab is not Fard. It is literally makruh to do our most holy actions where we are closest to Allah in it, namely prayer/salat & Hajj/Umrah/Tawaf. How does this make sense for you? lol
Jazakum Allah khair
Can't wait to see the next episode of the hot seat.
Ustad we have multiple examples of protests without any of these مفاسد you have mentioned in Pakistan at Press Club
These scholars have confused the Muslims of their roles in Islam. Most of them just want us to stay home and think about only ourselves and families salvation and to not speak against injustice and oppression that's been done on Muslims by their rulers. They are taught to protect the rulers at all costs even though our rulers have openly allied with the West and are trying to westernize and eliminate Islam even in Saudi Arabia by bringing singers and other Western culture.
Regardless what these brothers discussing. People are doing it anyway. Today Ali Dawah uploaded a video of a protest for Palestine 🇵🇸 on his channel.
Ali Dawah is a da'ee, and he doesn't have 3% of the knowledge Abdur Rahman Hasan has. But that's the issue, people today do not take from the 'ulama. While I doubt the sincerity of some shuyukh, Abdur Rahman Hasan is a person to take from and he is sincere.
So all the way saying it’s haram but ended with us knowing it’s ok. : )
There is nothing called peaceful protest ... because even if you organize one, all the opposition has to do is send one individual pretending to be one of the protester and start acting violently. Guess what? Now the opposition can frame your protest as violent, police will have reasons to arrest, and the cause will be vilified. [INSERT CONGRATULATION YOU PLAYED YOURSELF MEME]
Its amazing to me as a new revert alhamdelillah, to see muslims so far from quran and sunnah. Even the brother in white isnt accepting the proofs being brought with quran and sunnah. People think protesting is the most powerful thing we can do? Yes defend yourself, but always go to quran and sunnah...Allah swt grants victory to the belivers, not these violent haram protests. The brother in white reminds me of how most muslims act when you try to respectfully correct and try to guide them to quran and sunnah and not with emotions.
May Allah bless you sister, you should know that the brother on the right is playing the other side of the argument. In reality he agrees with what the Ustadh is saying, however he’s playing the role of someone who disagrees with him just so all potential doubts are refuted. They do this all the time on this channel, barikallahu feek.
Protests and Sanctions gave South Africa freedom
why comments getting deleted ????
Because some people are just cooked
Because this is not a place of fitnah. To avoid shubhat etc.
Because this brother gave a horrible explanation and reasoning,
@@anasibndawood6696 If you are telling about the ustadh, then may be you need to rethink what you've just said, because the ustadh here was quoting evidences for everything.
Protests are a symptom of the problem, As a general principal of hearing and obeying the leaders is correct, however we do not have any leaders at current, as all our so called leaders are content in maintaining individual nation states and not being leaders of the ummah. We have about 50 Muslim countries and therefore 50 leaders, some of questionable beliefs, this is the reality of situation. The scholars are looking at real protests now and casting them against some form of romantic idealised leadership that existed during the early days of Islam.
Nothing happens without God's knowledge or contrary to his will.There is a long-time plan which extends long into the future.A lot of people think they have a better plan.
I can see strong arguments from both side. I think it comes down to the individuals niya (intentions). I believe that I won’t be participating in anything that is haram when I’m protesting therefore it’s halal for me. I can’t make the same statement for anyone else.
31:03 hahaha, thank God brother Shahid is asking these if I was in his place I would have agreed with everything Ustad had to say, my answer to ustadh's every point would have been like "Jee ustad", like I do to my sheikhs back home.
My brother here is doing a great job cross questioning.
😅
sincerely
that is bad to agree with a shaykh on everything, unless they are correct.
@@ibnamanot Asalamualiakum akhi
I am just trying express the amount of respect I have for students of knowledge related to Islamic sciences. In no possible manner does that mean that if someone is spreading nonsense ideas that we should keep quiet and smile
But anyways thanks for the reminder 👍
So what is the solution
It must be a very difficult answer as the answer is over 44 minutes long. Can you please tell me if its allwed or not ?
Its not difficult to answe.
But the Ushtad gives evidence from and Quran and than a ruling while taking in to account the opinions of the major scholas.
Take time out and learn about the Deen.
We are happy to spend hours on tv, shopping, sports but a Islamic lectures we have no time!
Deen over Dunya not other way allowed.
By the way I was wondering is it possible for you guys to do a video on the fiqh of the beard. I.e Can you trim it and etc..
Very beneficial for today.
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Assaalmu aleikum, jazakum Allahu khairan for sharing. I'm a European Muslim and I find surprising these conclusions. We deal with mixed environments in our everyday life and Islamic cultural communities or mosques may be closed during the week due to work. Islamic history is full of mixed situations, Aisha RA used to be a leading figure not only for women but also for men, the manager of the market at the time of the prophet sws was a woman, not a man. The point was just how to behave and deal with these situations, not to completely ban them. I'd say further things, but AlhamduliLlah I found them well summarized in the following video: th-cam.com/video/yvk8kCH86Z0/w-d-xo.html
Concerning the hypothetical risk of engaging in situations where there's harm, my question is then: In the West acts of islamophobia are rising. Sisters wearing the hijab may incur major risks. Thus, could the conclusion be: no more wearing the hijab? The same could be with driving, entering traffic may engage you in potential incidents (national statistics show that the death rate increases due to incidents). Would driving become haram because it could potentially harm ourselves and others? In the end, all arguments seem weak in a Western context. And starting with the assumption seems not applicable as there's no specific aya or hadith stating so. I'd say it's more a matter of engaging in an intellectual conversation considering different fatwas, opinions, and contexts. W'Allahu a3lem
وعليكم السلام, thank you for your comment on this matter brother. There’s just a few things, Aisha RA, even though she did lead an army it wasn’t under mixed circumstances. And with Khadijah RA when she was a business woman, she would hire people for the trades and didn’t do it herself. Yes, in the west we are in unavoidable situations where freemixing would take place but those are out of necessity, such as public travel. As for protesting, we are choosing to be there. إن شاء الله I hope this message reaches you in good health. السلام عليكم
Baraka Allahu fik for your great replay! Much appreciated. I agree with what you shared. However, there are actual examples of women engaging in battle, i.e., Um Umara or Nusayba bint Kab in Uhud battle. The prophet allowed them to come to the field and they ended up playing a great role. Another name is Um Atiyyah who joined several battles. Women in general were strongly active in all societal fronts, from education to healthcare (a bit of Sira gives a lot of names). These are clear examples that the issue is not the mixed environment itself, but the way we behave (if we want, intentions themselves are crucial, first hadith al Bukhari). Let's take another example, the Hajj. Isn't it another highly mixed environment? And it's one of the five Islamic pillars. We engage in it with great commitment for the sake of Allah swt. Islam teaches us how to deal with the opposite gender, not how to avoid and ban it (we are indeed made also to build families, and so find our spouse). Let's take the teaching of lowering the gaze, such a teaching would have no meaning if we are made to live in non-mixed situations. Allah swt is the wisest and most knowledgeable, the all-knowing. The point then is not about banning these situations but about learning how to deal with them. Palestine is one of our crucial Islamic causes. I firmly believe that we have the responsibility to act and do our part. Praying, studying, sharing, and engaging in public discussions and events. Victory will come, it's Allah swt promise, but the effort is upon the Ummah (not only our Palestinian brother and sisters). @@adxm094
Jazakhallahun khairun for your detailed reply brother. Yes, indeed what you said about women participating in battle is correct. I was only trying to clarify the statement about Aisha RA. Your detailed reply is very much appreciated and of course the efforts are upon us. I would only disagree with the protesting but every other effort you mentioned such as events, studying, and sharing I 100%. May Allah bless you and grant the people of Palestine Freedom.
Amin, ajma3n brother. Giving a final comment, I'd say it depends on the context. If we have a look at the global situation, there's no country avoiding engaging in protest. not only in the West but also in the East. Let's take for example Turkey or Malaysia which are predominantly Muslim. Populations are rising their voices. And if you pay attention, in Turkey there are images where protests are endured with women and men separated, they are placed in two different groups to avoid the mixing issue previously mentioned. Thus, things are possible according to the local tradition and majority rules. In the West, we know to have major limits, and as for everyday life, we can deal with it in extreme situations like the current one. We are not engaging in it for fun, we are standing up against injustice and inhumanity for a cause that has its roots also in our Aqida. Let's all endure in deep prayers for our Palestinian brothers and sisters, in these hours of deep darkness and isolation they are facing. And the more they try to nullify and silence them, the more we raise their voice and cause. May Allah swt bless and guide us all toward UNITY. Free Palestine. @@adxm094
What about all of the religious wars that took place, Are they haram too then??
That topic is death for these scholars
Perfect explanation. Islam is certainty.
If there is no harm in protesting or you are protesting to a greater harm then no need to get excited and act tough and say it's haram. It's a fiqhi issue the smaller evil is preferred to a greater evil. Another thing is Saudi Scholars are with the Government Abdul Wahab and Abdul Aziz Saud had a agreement that Saud family takes care of politics and the Al Al Shiekh family the lineage of Abdulwahab the religious affairs. So obviously they will always take the opinion in most cases to not protest especially in Saudi lol. I think brother Abdulrahman it's time for him to look at other Scholars rather than Saudi scholars.
Im not going to comment one most of what you said csuse i dont think you no arabic so your probably just blindofllowing but would you said your womenfolk to these protests?
Do you belive protesting is an ibbadah?
Instead of blindfollowing go learn arabic study and see what the salaf from the first 3 generations were up.
@@Suwsue enjoining the Good and forbidding the evil is
BarakAllahu feek very good advise but there are contemporary issues that need to be discussed and that need fatawa from respected scholars from Ahlu Sunnah Wal Jammah in Saudi they have there own version of Ahlu Sunna although most issues are agreed upon. In regards to arabic elhamdullilah akhi I studied in Madinah Uni I've seen your friend multiple times there if he is your friend Abu taymiyyah it's time to broaden up our knowledge ya akhi. JazakAllahu khayran your advice spot on but you didn't really touch on my historical facts.
Protest? This is collective amr bil-maruf and nahy anil-munkar
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: They are the ones to attain felicity.
A band of Muslims must go out and condemn the evil of murdering innocent Muslims and enjoining the resistance against the murderers and thieves
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Rise for Allah, in ones and twos
Allah says in the Qur'an:
What's wrong with you that you do not fight in the way of Allah while the oppressed men, women and children call?
Allah says in the Qur'an:
Allah does not love loud odious words except for him who has been done an injustice, and Allah has been Ever-Hearing, Ever-Knowing.
The companion and Prophet's grandson Husayn ibn Ali and his companions rose against the caliph of their time Yazid in protest as recorded by the consensus of historians through saheeh hadith
The tabi' tabi'i Zayd ibn Ali, again a great great grandson of the Prophet, and his companions rose against Hisham the caliph in protest by the consensus of all historians through saheeh hadith
The Sunnah is clear:
Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri reported that the prophet Muhammad said, "Whoever amongst you sees an evil, he must change it with his hand. If he is not able to do so, then with his tongue. And if he is not able to do so, then with his heart, and that is the weakest form of faith"
When we have the freedom to speak, we must change it with our tongues. Otherwise we are going against the saheeh hadith of the Prophet.
The Qur'an and Sunnah and practice of Salaf call to rising up as a band of Muslims, even if one or two, loudly condemning the unjust and joining the struggle to liberate oppressed men, women, and children
Only the CIA wants these verses and saheeh hadith and consensus history to be forgotten in order to favour Israel and Saudi Arabia. Don't be their pawn. Be the soldier of Allah and follow the path of the Prophet, his Family and his Noble Companions.
Oh please forbidding the evil while they are sinning missing salah free mixing music everywhere and women are uncovered? Such a joke they need to forbid the evil and enjoin the good upon themselves if they actually want to make a change
@@Islam.is.the.truth..
Stop slandering the majority of decent Muslims who pray and are modest and earn in a halal way and also command justice for Palestinians and forbid occupation.
You do this only for the sake of pleasing Saudi Arabia and Israel who want you to be silenced. Don't be their pawn.
Well Articulated response.
Just a suggestion A mind blowing book by Dr Israr Ahmed: Lessons from History - Reflections on the Past, Present and Future of the two Muslim communities
@@sumiyahyasin5887 israr Ahmed is a sufi right
@@Islam.is.the.truth..it’s mentioned in the Quran by Allah (SWT), I don’t know why this is a discussion
I was wondering myself whether it was allowed or not. Alhamdulillah for this video.
JazzakAllahu khairan i would like to see your references and which scholars he is referring to on this issue.
but many muslims countrys are like Palestina God not change til the people change 😇
37:16 May Allah reward you go outside 🤣 very true
Very sad to have these brothers discussing trivial issues. They make the entire religion as their own narrow enterprise and anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam. I think we have better things to do. Protesting is absolutely effective. Allah knows best.
"and anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam"
You will be held accountable for this statement that you have accused them of.
It deeply saddens me wallahi to see the sincere brothers from Salafi stream wasting energy, resource and time to discussing trivial issues while we are slaughtered everywhere. If such energy was used wisely w could have solved many problems of this world. May Allah guide us all. What is wrong with protesting injustice? Are million believers doing that are they all misguided? Allah will certainly hold all of us accountable including those self made scholars who are letting their oppressed brothers down.
@Exfoliated Elbow Where is the emotional blackmail? I'm pointing out that he has made an accusation that "anyone who disagree with their narrow minded view is taken out of Islam". Where is the evidence for this accusation?
@@abeliever6823Nothing but accusations and emotions from you whilest the entire podcast from these brothers is based in evidence from the shariah. Are you student of knowledge or scholar? Our criteria are not our personal opinions and desires but the Qu'ran and Sunnah.
Allah forbade things in which there is benefit, he says so in Surah al Baqara. He SWT knows that the consequences are greater.
The action of few individuals shouldn’t place a ruling for everyone.
Guy on the right is the modern day Julaybeeb 😬
We'll see how funny this comment is when you are held accountable for it on yawm al qiyamah.
I don't see what's wrong, Julaybeeb was a companion and the prophet loved him, come on guys 🙄
Julaybeeb was the most handsome and had the most beautiful wife in jannah may Allah be pleased with him
I understand what the ustadh is saying but really given the state of the Muslim ummah today especially in UK Can we really adhere to Quran and sunnah during a protest? comon man it’s sin upon sin asking to happen. The bodies touching men and women in each others faces screaming like there’s no tomo?! Music is being played drums are being hit, not to forget some people have gone drunk to these protests bringing out hired cars or showing off flags from nice cars.. the ummah of UK have taken protesting out of context. Sadly they don’t have the knowledge as u do Ustadh abdulrahman. I don’t think protesting is befitting for the Muslims especially in the Uk.
Wallahi I've been to a segregated demonstration. There was one in East London
@@ej8530 I don’t know about segregated ones but fair play Alhamdullilah. I suppose that’s ok to some extent. But majority all over the world have been free mixed
@@khoshalpashtoonmal1845 true true. Problem is aswell, as you mentioned, you get many types and groups of people at the large protests (usually organised by FOA and Co). You'll get the pan-Arab nationalists playing Arab music and dancing, the leftwing looking for a two state solution and the farleft anarchists looking to cause trouble. This one was majority Muslims outside East London masjid, and the messaging was uniquely Islamic. There was no music, free mixing or anything of the sort
@@ej8530 Alhamdullilah that’s good if there was no free mixing no music no hooligan chanting. If it is created but someone strictly adhering to the Quran ANd Sunnah like a masjid then fair play. But do u really think IN UK people will care about rules if protesting is done in city centre type areas? I doubt that. Birmingham where I am is a big example of why protesting is not befitting for Muslims. U ask any of throes Muslims if they know their religion how did our prophet Muhammad salalahu alayhi wa sealed with being salam and his companions dealed with being occupied and oppressed by the quraish? They won’t be able to answer. Muslims need to go back to basics deal rectify their own affairs first in their hearts as Allaah said he won’t change the affairs of or goodnes of people so as long as they don’t change their own state by commiting sin and being ungrateful to Allaah swt.
“Verily, Allaah will not change the (good) condition of a people as long as they do not change their state (of goodness) themselves (by committing sins and by being ungrateful and disobedient to Allaah)” [al-Ra’d 13:11]
I think the Muslims need to stand back rectify their own selfs first and their hearts then supplicate and make dua for Palestine together
We demonstrate for masaajid that is made out of bricks and not demonstrate Muslims who their blood is shed infront of their loved ones.
Genocide is carried out on them.
Where is the hadith of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
رأيت رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم يطوف بالكعبة، ويقول: ما أطيبك، وأطيب ريحك! ما أعظمك، وأعظم حرمتك! والذي نفس محمد بيده، لحرمة المؤمن أعظم عند الله حرمة منك، ماله، ودمه. أخرجه ابن ماجة.
And those who say most of these protestors do not pray fajr. How do you know? Even if they don't pray where is the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
فقد جاء في الصحيحين وغيرهما من رواية ابي هريرة رضي الله عنه مرفوعا: بينما رجل يمشي فاشتد عليه العطش فنزل بئرا فشرب منها ثم خرج فإذا هو بكلب يلهث يأكل الثرى من العطش، فقال: لقد بلغ هذا مثل الذي بلغ بي، فملأ خفه ثم أمسكه بفيه ثم رقي فسقى الكلب، فشكر الله له فغفر له، قالوا يا رسول الله: وإن لنا في البهائم أجرا؟ قال: في كل كبد رطبة أجر. وفي حديث آخر في الصحيحين أيضا عن أبي هريرة مرفوعا: بينما كلب يطيف بركية كاد يقتله العطش إذ رأته بغي من بغايا بني إسرائيل فنزعت موقها فسقته فغفر لها به.
والظاهر من هذه الأحاديث أن الله تعالى غفر لهما بهذا الفعل الذي ينم عن الشفقة والرحمة التي هي سبب من أسباب رحمة الله تعالى لمن تخلق بها.
فقد روى الترمذي وصححه أن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم قال: الراحمون يرحمهم الرحمن، ارحموا من في الأرض يرحمكم من في السماء.
وقال الحافظ في الفتح: فشكر الله له فغفر له: أي أثنى عليه وقبل عمله وجازاه بفعله. فالفاء تفسيرية، وقال القرطبي: فشكر الله له: أي أظهر ما جازاه به عند ملائكته فأدخله الجنة. وقال شيخ الإسلام ابن تيمية معلقا على قصة هذه المرأة: فهذا لما حصل في قلبها من حسن النية والرحمة...
If the person doesn't pray it doesn't mean he doesn't seek justice for himself or others. Haven you heard the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
انصر أخاك ظالما أو مظلوما
You don't say I can't support (النصر) you because I don't pray or you don't pray if a Muslim is oppressed or out numbered or defeated.
The فرض الكفاية spreads to nearest Muslim land and so on and so forth.
And finally if demonstration is the only way to uplift oppression and to tell off those who are in charge.
Where is the saying of the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم
عَنْ أبي سعيدٍ الخدري - رضي الله عنه- عنِ النَّبي صلَّى اللهُ عليه وسلَّم قال: «أفضلُ الجهادِ كلمةُ عدلٍ عند سلطان جائرٍ" رواه أبو داود، والترمذي، وقال: حديث حسن.
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