Ford Falcon EF - Extra Features

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  • Here is the latest episode in the Falcon history series - the EF. What do you think of the EF? Better than the ED? Please 👍Like👍, Share and Subscribe. Thanks for watching. 👍
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  • @markbehr88
    @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Please see my latest Falcon history video on the EF. Please 👍Like👍 and Subscribe for more old car videos. What do you think of the EF? Better than the EA to ED series?

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How did ford manage engine cooling with closed off front .?

    • @jamesfrench7299
      @jamesfrench7299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Eric-kn4yn all air flow occurs under the bumper. They added a dummy grill on the EL and Fairmonts only for looks.

    • @deanstevenson6527
      @deanstevenson6527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I loved it. It had the kind of honesty of character all Falcons have had, with some real Japanese style plastic chrome and Phil Zmood style atmospherics. Wife's and partners suddenly liked the Falcon, making joint decisions on ownership. My army buddies in ante natal classes spoke in reserved, happy times about there XR6 purchases. It was no longer a reliability worry that my other friends had with the EAs and XFs. Only issue...if you wanted to fit propane, you had to really do your research. In New Zealand, 1994 onwards, you were okay with the V8, the distributorless six was a problem to duel fuel, and harder to operate as sole fuel because the ignition system was a lot more complicated to understand. The car showed everyone how much more complicated doing modifications within a budget was.. especially if Ford said no to a modification on warranty grounds.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@deanstevenson6527 Thanks. Great comments. 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Eric-kn4yn yes. All the airflow from the intakes below the number plate. 👍

  • @sp19822
    @sp19822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I was a 12 year old when the EF came out and remember getting a whole heap of brochures on the EF range sent to me, I wrote a nice letter and emphasised I was only a kid and it was for "a school project"
    Came home from school and saw the envelope, and it felt like Christmas.
    We saw a display of them at our local shopping centre and Mum and I sat in a Fairmont Ghia and I remember her saying she hated the seats, but she was a Holden person(we had a near new VR Exec at the time).
    I even bought a copy of the glovebox manual from the local Ford dealer with my pocket money ($16) and read up about how all these gadgets worked, went for a school holiday visit, saw the manual on the shelf in spare parts and Mum let me buy it.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You sound like you were a great kid! How cool buying the owner’s manual. I also used to write or phone the car manufacturers and ask for brochures, including writing to all the USA manufacturers, even DeLorean. I still have all the brochures and used to love coming home from school to find a big envelope full of car brochures. As you say, just like Christmas. 👍👍

    • @sp19822
      @sp19822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @markbehr88 I had an enquiring mind, as my Grade 6 teacher wrote in my school report. I also had the manual from our old Camira and my uncle's VC that was written off. I did not buy video games, just books and magazines instead.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@sp19822 Good on you. So much better to do that as a kid than play video games. 👍👍

    • @thunderbird1454
      @thunderbird1454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey sp19822, You should loan your brochures to Mark so he can scan them and remake this video, as there was a lot of "fuzzy photos" in this video that let it down !!

    • @sp19822
      @sp19822 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @thunderbird1454 Sadly I no longer have them. Have moved on now.

  • @area51isreal71
    @area51isreal71 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    Wheels magazine took their Commodore glasses off and said.....shock horror....that the EF Falcon was more refined than the Commodore. The first "touchy feely" Falcon they said. It was a very nice car, we had an EF wagon and it impressed with it's room, comfort and smoothness. Very informative video as always Mar. I look forward to each one. Cheers.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks very much. Yes, the EF Falcon was a great car and the differentiation they put into Fairmont and Ghia really worked well to secure the management market of fleet and private buyers. They also had great interiors. 👍

    • @stevensmith7926
      @stevensmith7926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I rolled my EF xr6 5 times at 170kph 4 years ago I closed my eyes and Crossed my arms across my chest and excepted what I thought what was going to be my death. I had a Minor cut on my elbow and that was it. I will for ever be grateful that the car sacrificed itself to save me

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@stevensmith7926 Wow. What a story. What a car! You are a lucky 🍀 one. 🙏

    • @stevensmith7926
      @stevensmith7926 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@markbehr88 at the time I was pretty lost and reckless I hit a pot hole and the left tie rod end snapped on a big sweeping bend. I was unlicensed and shouldn't have been driving I took off on foot because I was a couple of ks from home 10pm I rolled it police picked the wreck up at sunrise. And 4 police turned up to grab me later the same day I wasn't home my girlfriend was 4 months pregnant and My mother in-law put her hand up for the accident. I am now sobar and just so grateful that I got to meet my daughter jade she is my world couldn't imagine her growing up never met her dad because he got killed before she was born. .

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow. Tough eh. 🙏

  • @nathansmith6914
    @nathansmith6914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I prefer the EF front to the EL at least in Falcon form.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Me too 👍

    • @izzy031096
      @izzy031096 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EF XR front end is an absolute beauty

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@izzy031096 I agree 👍

  • @karnereeves3460
    @karnereeves3460 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Yea baby....EF and EL

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Shaggadicious! 👍😀

  • @markbehr88
    @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Here is the latest Falcon history video - the EF. What do you think of the EF? Better than the EA to ED series? Please be sure to Subscribe and please hit that 👍Like👍 button as it helps the channel. 👍

  • @onedayiwillmakesomecontent
    @onedayiwillmakesomecontent 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    As a young bloke, in dads EF falcon one night, me and my best mate had a roll race from 30kmh with another p plater in his dads VP commodore. We left him for dead! Our minds were blown, that 4.0 litre gobbled up the V6!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The V6 in the Holden (Buick V6) was very good right off the mark. 👍

    • @jamesfrench7299
      @jamesfrench7299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 too good. Holden were trying to arrest the aggressive torque for years.

  • @nigelbritton964
    @nigelbritton964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cant wait for the next episode - the unloved AU Falcon.
    Have to say using the EF front on the XF ute and van to create the Longreach was a master stoke.

    • @MrFister84
      @MrFister84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      EL should be next.

    • @nigelbritton964
      @nigelbritton964 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Stand corrected, should have said cant wait for the AU episode.@@MrFister84

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You’ll have to watch EL next, then AU. 😀. The AU will be a biggie. 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes, EL is the next cab off the rank (see what I did there!) 😀

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      All good. I appreciate you watching them. 👍😀

  • @perpetualgrin5804
    @perpetualgrin5804 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The raised Longreach a very practical ute. This is such a market for a replacement.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yes. They are very cool. I would love a V8 Falcon S XH. 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    The Fairmont Ghia had a laminated sump to reduce noise.
    The hole for the original distributor now becomes the home for the synchroniser. All it did was tell the PCM where the cam was in relation to the crank
    The EF and the AU were the only 2 falcons to have DFI.
    Cruise control now utilised a cruise control deactivation switch on the brake master. Notorious for leaking.
    Ford decided a new brake light switch was in order. End result was every workshop had a 6 pack of them on the shelves

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Loving the additional details. 👍👍

    • @herbnalis3723
      @herbnalis3723 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The brake light switch was the same design as the 1966 XR FALCON.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Replaced one on my AU the other day. Took the seat out to make it easier. 👍

  • @campbellreither550
    @campbellreither550 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Love the EF Falcon. Oh I wish we could bring a car like this back!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hopefully, you can find a mint original somewhere and keep it as your Aussie classic? 👍

  • @ckaparos
    @ckaparos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Great Video Mark, The EF/EL are one of my most favourite models owning an EL XR8 i'm a little biased.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks Costa. They are cool Aussie classics 👍

  • @tonyscarcare5657
    @tonyscarcare5657 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm still blown away how all of these Falcons continued to be built down there. Some of those remind me of some of the smaller GM cars of the late 80s and early 90s. Something like a Corsica.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes and the nice part was we had rear wheel drive and often V8s powering them - so great cars to drive and very durable too. 👍

    • @tonyscarcare5657
      @tonyscarcare5657 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @markbehr88 😳 wow!

  • @ozgarage956
    @ozgarage956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Undoubtedly one of the most beautiful looking falcons ever made.
    Still think the XA-XC coups were best ever but the EF and even EL range were just so sleek looking, especially in XR form.
    Just picked up an EF XR6 for my son , and man does that thing turn heads partly cos they're rare but also they're just damn good looking machines.
    Great interiors, even though more and more plastic went into the interiors they seem to have stood the test of time as far as sturdiness and no trim fade on door panels goes.
    Great car, great video!
    PLEASE........Go easy when you get to AU 😅

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks glad you enjoyed it. Sounds like that XR6 you got your son into is a nice car. Hopefully he will look after that Aussie classic. The interiors do hold up well and they were nicely designed too. AU will be interesting. If you look on my channel I own a few. I was at Holden when it was released but then went to Ford’s ad agency so used to do some of the retail marketing for AU including the Runout ad. So, it will be an interesting episode. 👍

  • @RandomAussie89
    @RandomAussie89 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Would love to see a book version of this type of succinct presentation of the Falcon generations

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Thanks. I’ll stick to the videos at this stage! 😀👍

    • @AussiePom
      @AussiePom 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There was a book made just after the Ford Australia ceased local manufacturing Ford Australia The Cars and People Who Made Them by M.D Cook and D.M Wallace. Probably only available now on the secondhand book market. It's got all the Falcon's in there plus the Cortina's and Escorts, trucks and boats that Ford Australia made in WW2.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@AussiePom Yes. I have that book. They asked me to proof read it but when I pointed out errors they said I was being pedantic but to me, enthusiasts want accuracy. 👍

    • @Low760
      @Low760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@markbehr88I've got this book and it's disappointing about it skipping pretty much from the xd on.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Low760 Hopefully these videos can remedy that to some extent. 👍

  • @borrisyuslav4306
    @borrisyuslav4306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Ha. Never seen a nudge bar on a falcon wagon. I dig it.

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It was actually a ford design bar. It was aimed at the country buyers

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Probably only in regional areas. You never saw them really in the city. 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, it was especially made to work in co junction with the airbags. 👍

    • @paulsz6194
      @paulsz6194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I have. Even saw some on taxi’s in the late ‘90’s…

    • @borrisyuslav4306
      @borrisyuslav4306 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@paulsz6194Interesting. Can’t have payed too much attention to that. Only ever seen the bars on cop cars and cocky’s utes.

  • @jamesfrench7299
    @jamesfrench7299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This was a huge step up in modernity for this body shell inside and out. Normally I prefer blue grey interiors over tan beige but not in this case. The shade of brown they chose looked very contemporary and much more inviting and luxurious looking in the Futuras and Fairmonts over the comparatively dull blue grey version.
    These have aged incredibly well and still look passably modern on our roads now and certainly very stylish, especially in metallic colours.
    The bodies did feel very tight as well, over the EA, with a nice solid compliant feel to them.
    These also saw the introduction of coil packs for the ignition system which will be of interest with the EL that follows.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree with all of your comments there James. 😀👍

  • @Aaajjjjjjjjj
    @Aaajjjjjjjjj 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I AGREE! I think the EF seems to be a forgotten model. But it is, in my opinion, such a great loooking car to this day. From GLi to XR8.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, terrific looking car. 👍

  • @benthebonza5947
    @benthebonza5947 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Keep up the good work 👍. Have you considered doing a series on the Territory?

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. I may do Territory but it would be a while yet 👍

  • @PaulStewartAviation
    @PaulStewartAviation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I have good memories of the EF. Our family had a bright red EF Gli wagon which served us well for years. Interesting comments about the greater differentiation between the Forte and Fairmont/Ghia possibly increasing sales. I wonder if another factor was because the Forte/Future just looked so bad with their grills? It's interesting to see that Ford essentially introduced a de-chromed Fairmont grill on the Forte/futura on the AU2 Falcon. I never liked the base AU interior (I had a Au1 Forte) but always thought that the higher series looked nice with their wood. The dash was also considerably different to the Forte/future too, unlike the Commodore which from memory had the same dash but with wood in the higher models.Then we compare this with the VE which, from memory, had three different style dashboards (exec, sport and luxury) which must have added unnecessary complexity?

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      An EF red wagon would have been a good looking car back then. Re the AU. The overall styling was a real challenge, with many Ford long term customers moving to Holden, despite the car being extremely durable. I agree the high series dash looked much better. I have an AU1 Forte police pack (video on the channel) and he dash almost looks Tarago like - with the very round centre section. While many rejected them back in the day, they are starting to become more accepted now. It seems the shape grown on us? 👍😀

    • @PaulStewartAviation
      @PaulStewartAviation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 Yes many swapped over to Holden during the VT years. The VT was a good looking car even if the V6 and auto transmission were rubbish. The 5.7 V8 was a huge leap over the Ford, though. Especially the non-XR8 5L with (I think) 175kWs.
      I'd agree that the AU has aged well, especially the AU2-3. Even the Fairlane even looks decent.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@PaulStewartAviation I do love the AU Fairlane. I have a lovely Sparkling Burgundy V8 Ghia. 👍

    • @PaulStewartAviation
      @PaulStewartAviation 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 Agreed. But their V8 struggled next to the Gen3 Statesman. The Fairlane's (and LTD) equipment list was pretty poor next to the GMH equivalent too. But the Ford's woodgrain looked better!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PaulStewartAviation mine has leather as well. I just engineered cruising in it. I worked on the WH program and like those too. 👍

  • @MrMeldarionx
    @MrMeldarionx 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I had a VX Calais with the full leather and suade interior ... loved that car

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@MrMeldarionx Nice one. I hope you liked the woodgrain dash?

  • @craigbellingham5936
    @craigbellingham5936 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked for a parts supplier that supplied the xr bonnet scoops, spoiler & the filler moulding. The filler moulding filled the gap between the XR6 & 8 bonnet & grill. Apparently this gap was unexpected & Ford had to rush a design to fill it. We got a scale 2:1 drawing of this urgent filler moulding but in the haste calculated our material volume measuring directly from the drawing as 1:1. So the part was over quoted but as Ford was in such a panic they accepted it. So we made good money ongoing on that part!!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting. 👍

  • @bradg5910
    @bradg5910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    As a mechanic I remember the EF was the first Falcon to have a Coil Pack ignition system. Was very reliable and smooth, only to revert back to a distributor for EL.
    Headlights were truly rubbish whether yellowing or not. Headbolts would break resulting in coolant leaks down the exhaust side of the block.
    Was a good car tho, and the Fairmont Ghia was a particularly nice place to be.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Interesting re the coil packs. I wonder what their reason was? I am not a fan of plastic headlights but most cars have had them now for years. The Ghia interiors were excellent 👍

    • @bradg5910
      @bradg5910 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@markbehr88
      Reverting back to a distributor was definitely an unusual move in the EL. We used to joke at the time they had a tonne of surplus dizzys lying around from EA-ED they had to get rid off. AU returned to coilpacks

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@bradg5910 Maybe they had some teething problems with the EF system? 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bradg5910 Another subscriber said pressure from taxi and LPG industries? 🤔👍

    • @adamhodgeson9812
      @adamhodgeson9812 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      12:40 ​@@markbehr88

  • @mariobrnabic4252
    @mariobrnabic4252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is a great video. I have owned a ED xr6, EF Fairmont, and EL Fairmont Ghia. I can honestly say that there seemed to be more sound deadening material in the EF over the ED. Also the EF and EL seemed to have more instant torque, due to the fact that they both had duel runner (short and long) intake manifolds. These vehicles loved eating up highway km's.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. Glad you liked it. Hopefully you are subscribed too? Yes, they were smooth cruisers. 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I owned an ex demo EF XR6 sedan, sunroof and body kit. One thing that was a puzzle was the front had electric windows and the rear had manual windows. Soon rectified that problem with a set from a Ghia.and some additional wiring.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it was a cost saving measure. The Futura and some Falcons had front only power windows. It probably saved a few $$ and they also probably new a lot of company car drivers were the only ones in the car most of the time. 👍

    • @commodorenut
      @commodorenut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Holden started doing that with the VP (Berlina got front only) and Ford followed suit a couple of years later. It was a cheap way to say “power windows” on the spec sheet in the all-important company car market, and Futura/Acclaim also did it for a while. They already had wiring in the doors for the standard central locking and power mirrors, so it wasn’t hard to add 2 more wires to each front door harness. Unlike earlier models that needed holes drilled and additional harnesses run.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@commodorenut Yes. That’s right. Back when power windows were a novelty. 👍

  • @MitchTube
    @MitchTube 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For better or worse the ED to EF falcon seems to be the homeless car of choice in my suburb. Affordable, plenty of room, reliable, cheap to run. Who needs a house?

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ha. Like real estate, they are starting to gain in value (as long as they are in decent condition). 👍

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@markbehr88thankyou albo mr 31%

  • @MrFister84
    @MrFister84 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    VX Calais were good looking cars, good job mate.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you. There were a couple of things I wanted to do styling wise that I didn’t quite get across the line but overall I was happy with it, especially the rear tail lights. 👍

    • @Low760
      @Low760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@markbehr88 the Berlina/Calais tails and different headlights were awesome, I loved the tails and I'm glad they kept that up from that point on.
      Though VT Berlina up had working brake or tail lights in the centre panel.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Low760 Glad you liked it. Yes, that’s right re the VT lights. 👍

  • @mikldude9376
    @mikldude9376 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Good video Mark .
    I miss the old conventional cars you could service. Yourself , repair them yourself and keep them going well for decades.
    Unlike all the soulless characterless throw away plastic fantastic mobile phones on wheels we have today 😂 , …….. or maybe i`m just too old 😱 .

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. I get where you’re coming from. 😀👍

  • @TilyXR6
    @TilyXR6 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thanks for another great video mate. Love the insight into developing the VX using the EF as a bit of inspiration. It’s almost heartwarming to know that both brands were indeed sharing/borrowing ideas from eachother, even though it’s quite evident once you realise the fact it’s something not many people would pick up on

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thanks very much. I was probably a bit unusual in that I worked for both Holden and Ford and HSV and FPV. Not many people did that. I was also a big Ford fan even when I was at Holden for 9 years. I really enjoyed both companies. 👍

  • @andrewg2618
    @andrewg2618 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Great video. I have an EF XR8 5speed in my fleet and I agree with you...such a great looking car. The Windsor may not be the fastest thing, but in manual it still goes great and is so smooth. Love the facts about the influence on the VX!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much. Your XR8 sounds very cool. Yes, I thought I would add in the detail about the influence of the EF on the VX Commodore, as most people (including Holden staff) would be totally unaware of it. 👍

  • @SS-yw7vo
    @SS-yw7vo หลายเดือนก่อน

    These Falcons and Commodores were such good value for money

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@SS-yw7vo Yes, agree. 👍

  • @couttsy222
    @couttsy222 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Such a great looking car, the EF. With the EF, Ford did with the original EA what the later BA did for the AU passenger cell.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I agree the EF was a great looking car and a really solid update on the EA design (which in itself was regarded as one of the best Ford designs at that time worldwide) 👍

    • @Eric-kn4yn
      @Eric-kn4yn 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How was engine cooling managed with closed off front

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Eric-kn4yn All of the air flow is drawn in from the lower intake below the number plate. 👍

    • @commodorenut
      @commodorenut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ford shared a lot of their airflow and cooling R&D with the media when the EF was launched. The put a lot of time into working out various angles & shrouding behind the front bar, to maximise flow through the cooling pack. They also made use of low & high pressure zones (deliberately created with the shrouding) and turbulence - turbulence that helped heat transfer into the airflow stream. Even the optional trans oil cooler was studied, and the factory mounting system angled it in such a way that it not only increased the amount of heat transferred to the passing air, but it also didn’t detract from the performance of the cooling system.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@commodorenut Thanks. Great info 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You couldn’t buy headlight protectors for the XR’s due to the angle of the headlight assembly to the bumper . Apparently the angle cause a diffusion of the light source. Some companies resorted to either an insert or a plastic cling film type arrangement .From what I gathered the low beam lighting was marginal for ADR anyway.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Right. I seem to recall in AU they had headlight covers for the XR that ballooned out like a globe. Maybe that was after the EF experience? 🤔👍

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@markbehr88 AU had funny headlight cover. Didn’t suit the car one bit

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tba3900 Yes, they were strange. 👍

  • @michaelhart5886
    @michaelhart5886 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ef/el in xr6 and xr8 form is still a good looker today

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes. I especially like the EF. I wouldn’t mind one 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    In Adelaide we there was a leman XR6 wagon taxi. Certainly stood out in the taxi ranks.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That would have been cool!👍

    • @MrVsbt1
      @MrVsbt1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah I remember that red XR6 wagon getting about I'm pretty sure it was getting around in the early 2000's I wonder how many ks it had and wonder what happened to it when they retired it

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrVsbt1 They are very cool. 👍

  • @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL
    @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks again, i just finished watching the EB to EF, love your videos on the falcon. Another small detail with the EF2 was the GLI and Future badges on the bootlid were chrome, series one they were a dull grey colour.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much. Good pick up. I prefer the chrome personally. 👍

    • @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL
      @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 same. That detail and the left mirror had "objects in mirror are closer than they appear" those two and different Hub caps were the only differences between the S1 and S2 EF visually.

    • @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL
      @Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 I noticed it because it looked better having all the rear badges in chrome instead of a dull grey as well.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL Most definitely. 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Dylan_Mulvaney_OFFICIAL Pretty small eh? 🤔👍

  • @philnorbury9032
    @philnorbury9032 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even the base model hubcaps looked great! From memory for some obscure reason the EF used to spin really easily when just accelerating from a standstill on wet roads. Saw two alone spin on my way into work one morning. The new handbrake was awesome too.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, the fabled handbrake relocation 👍😀

  • @Twenty_Six_Hundred
    @Twenty_Six_Hundred 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    EL was more my style when it came to headlights and tail lights. Although the EF XR headlights were better than the ELs

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, styling is very subjective. I really like the EF base models without the grille versus the oval mouth on the EL but each to their own. 👍

  • @ultramag9413
    @ultramag9413 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Bought an EF XR8 in 2004
    Was a great thing
    Sounded mint
    I always wondered why it did great donuts….the roll on oversteer was great

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ha hah. There you go. 😀👍

  • @blackpanther50
    @blackpanther50 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Back in 2002 I bought my ef series 2 ghia. (Argon silver). Still have it today. Love the sporty feel the tickford engine gives the car.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That’s great that you still have the car. What excellent value and service! 👍

  • @chrisgomez3078
    @chrisgomez3078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah nice review Mark , cant wait for the bullet proof AU

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. Seems like a few are looking forward to the AU episode. That will be a biggie. 👍

    • @chrisgomez3078
      @chrisgomez3078 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will come with time master , no rush, just saying

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chrisgomez3078 Ha hah. Yes. It will be here soon. 👍

  • @mrdoiii
    @mrdoiii 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Another great video. Very interesting to see the history of the design.
    My personal favourite is the EL. Went with my father who ordered a EL Fairmont brand new back in 97, which he handed down to me and I kept until 2018. Unfortunately it ended up at the wreckers one year after I sold it.
    Would’ve loved to have seen the Fairlane in this video. These days as a weekender, I think the LWBs are a better choice out of these later series, especially with a V8.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. I will be doing a separate series on the long wheelbase cars, so stay subscribed. 👍

  • @downcomesthenight
    @downcomesthenight 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    EF GLi was always my favourite front end of any Falcon. The base hub caps really looked the part as well. There was an EL disabled spec taxi wagon still in service around Port Stephens NSW up until about 5-6 years ago! (2018/2019)

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, I like the EF too. 👍

  • @UncleJoeLITE
    @UncleJoeLITE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Have to agree this is a very clean design, especially for a makeover. Really interesting to hear your perspective from the 'other side of the fence'. But for me, those quad headlights are my favourite part of all the EF models. Cheers Mark.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes, a great design. They still look the goods today. I recommend people find a nice one and buy it. A nice piece of Aussie auto history. 👍

  • @mickbrenton
    @mickbrenton 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Love all the details Mark!!!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much. 👍

  • @SGTschultz1986
    @SGTschultz1986 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really enjoying your videos. Very keen for the EL video, EL is my personal favourite Falcon

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. EL coming up next. 👍

  • @lukeduke8260
    @lukeduke8260 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thanks Mark another great video.The XR8 is a beautiful looking car specially with the shark fin wheels. 👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, they did a fantastic job on the XR’s. They still look very sharp today. It has aged very well. 👍

  • @rodneymcgiveron
    @rodneymcgiveron 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    G'day Mark , Once again a beaut and detailed description on another popular Falcon ..My 1996 EF Futura was the five speed manual ..First one I had with the 4.0 litre SOHC Intech .. She was gunmetal grey and I did some big kays in her..Traded her in 2003 on my much loved AU Series 2 Futura with same SOHC engine with a few more kilowatts ...Highly under rated engine since the famous Barra DOHC but just as capable and reliable powerplant ...Thanks again for a great vid once again...Huge fan here

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Rod. Much appreciated. I forgot to mention, I have a mint EF Fairmont V8 with the 5 litre V8. It is the very dark green with only 87,000 kms on it. There is a video on the channel if you go right back. 👍

  • @paulsz6194
    @paulsz6194 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This EF/EL Falcon looked ahead of its time, compared to the VR/ VS commodores of the day. You’re right Mark, differentiating the stying from the Gli/Futura definitely made a difference for theFairmont / Ghia sales, along with the XR6/8 models. My step dad bought one of these EF Gil’s as an ex fleet car when it was 4 years old. The only problems with this model if I recall properly was the central locking failing & the a/c compressor clutch failing along with having to reseal the joints of the a/c condenser inside the cabin, as the gas was leaking out h from there.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I thought the VR was a good re-style of the VP and it modernised the front and rear ends. It sold extremely well. By VS it was getting a little long in the tooth. 👍

  • @lancecooper4646
    @lancecooper4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    10:10....omfg...THAT'S a cooool car 🔥👅😜👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you like it Lance 👍

  • @pgilb70
    @pgilb70 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My EF wagon company car was wonderful. Well made, lovely to drive. Fully sorted, unlike EA, B

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Good to hear. The Falcon wagons were always good cars. 👍

  • @commodorenut
    @commodorenut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Mark. EF was my favourite E-series. EL went backwards in styling imo. I still remember many of those media prints as A2 sized laminated posters around my workplace at the time. I gave the XR ones to a mad Ford friend when we replaced them with AU ones. I note the media shots of the Ghia didn’t have the front cornering lights. These also added to the differentiation of trim levels. I still really like the “3 step” boot treatment - L1 had nothing, L2 got the chrome spear, and L3 got the added plate escutcheon. Holden never got that level of difference, preferring to play around with tail lights instead (like the larger units on VY-VE). The EF remained my favourite Falcon until the FG arrived.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Yes, I really like the EF too. Great looking car and I love my V8 Fairmont. 👍

  • @johnblood3367
    @johnblood3367 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great Video as always. I remember when I got to drive an EF Futura once. It was a great comfortable car. I suppose being brand new at the time helped 🤣🤣🤣.
    I always loved that front of the GLi with no grille.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. I also love that EF Falcon front end. Very Thunderbird. 👍

  • @NVintage
    @NVintage 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey mate, I love this series, it’s incredibly informative. You should do a video on the AU, I own an xr6 VCT so I’m totally not biased at all.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much. The next episode will be EL, then I will do AU. 👍

  • @jadesmith6823
    @jadesmith6823 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dear dad owned a XR6 five speed that was chipped... It was white with red trim... He treated it like he did all his cars as if it was his child...
    The thing utterly got up and went.
    Bit hungry on juice around town however seemed to use sweet fuck all on highway runs. Comfortable as and had a shit load of room.
    It's an utter disgrace that we don't produce our own vehicles in this country anymore.
    Thoughtfully made for Australian driving regarding family and commercial.
    I love your videos mate. Thanks for taking the time to produce to atleast show our future generations 🇦🇺❤️✅

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much. Your Dad’s car sounded like a great cruiser in the best Aussie tradition. 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia also had different headlight assemblies because the bonnet was different.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, all part of the differentiation that influenced me to do the same on the VX with different lights, grille and tail lights. 👍

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@markbehr88 trouble is the prestige head light assembly also commanded a prestige price tag. Didn’t mean it would take longer for it to turn yellow. What pissed me off the most is, it should have been a safety recall and it never was. I heard dealers use every excuse under the sun , not to replace them under warranty.
      Decline reason
      Wrong globes
      Washed car in full sun
      Excessive use of high beam
      Chemicals used in car wash.
      They weren’t cheap and I have replaced hundreds of them from EF all the way to FGX.
      I read a Ford study on sun affecting components and materials in cars. They stated the hottest component on a car in full fun is believe it or not the head light assembly , This is due to the reflective lenses concentrating the suns rays to one focal point which results in heat . What stuffs plastics- heat!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tba3900 Yes. Shame they were not glass and we wouldn’t have an issue. 🤔👍

    • @jacobhaussmann90
      @jacobhaussmann90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EF Fairmont and Fairmont Ghias have the same grill and bonnet

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jacobhaussmann90 That’s right. 👍

  • @lancecooper4646
    @lancecooper4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Yeah gotta agree....the EF/EL Falcons & the VR/VS Commos were the best looking...my fave Statesy is the VR/VS.....cough cough...i mean they ain't no AU....but still pretty good 😜👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes the VR and VS were great looking cars. Same with the Statesman. I had Berlina VR V8 in Panther Mica as a company car and lots of Statesmans. I especially liked the dark blue. 👍

    • @lancecooper4646
      @lancecooper4646 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 yeah anything HSV in those models has gone crazy but Berlinas & Calais will be desirable & any V8 Statesy

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@lancecooper4646 That’s exactly right Lance. 👍

  • @charlescharalambous9140
    @charlescharalambous9140 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video Mark, the EF was definitely an amazing car in 1994. I think you missed an opportunity to talk about the major 6 cylinder upgrade from the ED however. Which received a 2 stage intake manifold and coil pack ignition producing 157 kW compared to 147 kW on the ED and greater refinement.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it. Good point re the engine. I assume the weight of the vehicle increased to, in line with the added safety equipment, thus requiring more power. 👍

  • @matthewh8005
    @matthewh8005 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The EF was the best falcon ever made. The styling and that 4.0 straight 6 were just fucking brilliant

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree it was one of the best looking. I’d like an XR8. 👍

  • @jamesdennis2244
    @jamesdennis2244 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Loved the EFs, my favourite model Falcons. Slight correction on where you mentioned XR headrests. They only had front headrests not rear.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Yes, good pick up. The reference material said rear see through headrests ala my EB Ghia but that is clearly not the case. Thanks for pointing that out 👍

  • @firstworldproblems6064
    @firstworldproblems6064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I adore these cars honestly. grandpas eb fairlane was so beautiful to drive too bad i only drove it once but i ended up with an ef from Melbourne in 2013 i was 23 years old my second car. could fly over those suburban speed hump island things mate without even feeling anything. drift. drag race the lights. anything. comfort. had the dark red wagon in 2019 and sold her like a fool i am lol. just needed a barra in her thats all.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hopefully you can find another one? A piece of Aussie car history. 👍

  • @Aydos_Barbados
    @Aydos_Barbados 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The EF I believe is the birth of the modern Falcon, such a good looking model and my favourite one!
    I finally got my EF Fairmont back from the panel beaters today, so a well timed and a great video Mark!👍

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks very much. I need to drive my 87,000 km V8 Fairmont too. They are such great cars. 👍

  • @rossschloeffel6150
    @rossschloeffel6150 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Fantastic content - really appreciate it

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much 🙏

  • @BomberFletch31
    @BomberFletch31 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, Mark. I remember that tall poppy ad at the end!
    I loved the EF. I remember that my parents had rented an EF Series II for a road trip, in late 1996. 15 year old me, already in love with Falcons then, spent many an hour just sat in the car, poring over the manuals, playing with every switch and getting to know every single inch of the car. I also read every article in Wheels magazine about the EF so I'd like to think I know a thing or two about them. What I didn't know, was that it inspired Holden's design on the VX thanks to your input!
    Just a nitpick, though - you mentioned that remote central locking and boot release was an extra on the Fairmont (at 9:14)? I don't think it was. I'm 95% sure that it was standard on every Falcon since Smartlock was introduced to the range in early 1993 about midway through the EBII's run.
    I'm looking forward to the next one. The EL Fairmont Ghia is probably one of my favourites of all Falcons. And I almost bought one. I say almost, because at the time, I owned an EA Falcon GL which was causing me some grief, and I was tossing up between cutting my losses with the EA, with which I had bonded emotionally, and taking a punt on another used car which may be no more reliable. Clearly, I made the wrong decision.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks very much. Glad you liked it. You could still find an EL Ghia I reckon! 👍😀

  • @fordfella801
    @fordfella801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks very much for the video

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pleasure 👍

  • @KingL1berty
    @KingL1berty 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Even though were not at the EL, I think the EL XR6 and XR8 4 headlight treatment was better than the EF since it added a grill with more body lines around the headlights rather than being all flat like the EF XR6 and XR8.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I like both designs. They have both aged very well. 👍

    • @commodorenut
      @commodorenut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I still prefer the EF. It just looked more aero. My neighbour at the time was a NSW HWP cop, so I got up close to numerous EF and EL XR8s when he’d come home for a dinner break with his cheap maccas for the family. The EL just wasn’t as smooth to look at, and I preferred the grille-less front. It made the lower spec models stand out against the VR.
      Compared to the fleet GLi I was driving occasionally, the XR was amazing. They really got the separation and unique trim level formulas correct. But even a base model looked good, and was reasonably equipped too.
      The handling issues people complain about weren’t as bad in the day as they make out today, and many cars had a rear mounted rack with no issues. It’s the geometry that was the problem. In saying that, when the VT first came out, my HWP neighbour was given one, but went back to the EL as he hated the handling in the VT compared to the VS and VL.

  • @rd4in37
    @rd4in37 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The EF XR 6 and 8 have to be the best looking Falcon ever.....they were good cars my 95 GLi would easily get 30 mpg in the old money...

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They were and are great cars. Despite the roll oversteer they ride very nicely, are smooth and comfortable and look great. I love my V8 Fairmont EF. 👍

  • @famousamoss
    @famousamoss 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another fascinating, well-made video about an Aussie classic! The insight into your EF-inspired design changes to the VX Commodore was genuinely interesting. Nice work!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much. Glad you enjoyed it 👍

  • @jeffreywhitehead9386
    @jeffreywhitehead9386 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm getting excited about the EL and AU episodes. Great episode Mark. Didn't know the handling upgrade came in in the series 2 EF.
    I love my EH Prem I've restored but also m you ED XR6 wagon I also restored and I'm about to end up with an EL Fairmont Ghia with OEM handling option. Oh, and I bought last year a low km series 3 AU Fairmont Ghia in pristine condition. I can't help myself. Now I wanted to tell you about a mate who visited the Ford design studios during the panic to improve the AU sales figures and I was told that there was a photograph a baboon's you know what on the wall with respect to feedback about the centre console look. They did however work hard on significant mechanical improvements as well I'm told to recover creditability which can be seen today by how many AUs are still on working duties. My daily drive is just a BA ute with XR handling. Thanks again for your Falcon series.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Glad you are enjoying the series. You have a great collection there. I was at the agency for Ford later in the AU life. There were challenges but we sold a lot pf them. They are extremely durable cars and now are starting to be appreciated. 👍

  • @jamesmcgowen1769
    @jamesmcgowen1769 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember seeing photo’s of the EB/D??? Falcon at Bathurst with race tape covering the grille and thinking WTF?
    Then the EF was released, and it dawned on me why they did that.
    Also remember sitting behind an EF at the lights wondering if the head of styling said to his subordinates and asked ‘what would an EJ Holden tail light look like if it was released today’?
    The EL had the fancy pants oval exhaust, which did nothing

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I must say, I can’t see the EJ Holden tail light. I think it was more influenced by the US designs including the Ford Contour.👍

    • @jamesmcgowen1769
      @jamesmcgowen1769 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 just the rounded profile of the tail lights. I used to sit behind lots of them when they were new!
      Even the ute tail gate reminded me of the HK ute!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesmcgowen1769 Right. I’ll have to have a closer look? 👍

    • @commodorenut
      @commodorenut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jamesmcgowen1769I still see the XA tailgate on the utes!

  • @coalfacechris1336
    @coalfacechris1336 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Aw Mark......makes me regret selling my '98 XH van.......great show again, mate.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks very much. Maybe you can find another one? I remember seeing an XH van in a wrecking yard. No wheels but absolutely mint paint and body. I wondered why it was there! 👍

  • @joellamoureux7914
    @joellamoureux7914 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks fpr the hp ratings!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pleasure 👍

  • @AdamAus85
    @AdamAus85 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Still miss my EF Fairmont in polynesian green. One of my first videos still uploaded to my youtube channel is a sound test I did after fitting a 2.5 inch catback exhaust to it. Don't forget the Tickford intake that we all fitted to our non-xr Falcons for HP gain, lol.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe you can find another one? ☝️

  • @davidwood9966
    @davidwood9966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello from Western Australia, Mark! I've been getting into your videos a bit lately. I remember the first time I saw an EB, that's my favourite facelift from one model to the next. I still tell my missus I want to buy and own an NL Fairlane V8 with nice wheels. I love all this stuff, keep it up.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks very much. I love the EB too per my V8 Ghia on the channel. You should buy that Fairlane. They still aren’t too dear. 👍

    • @davidwood9966
      @davidwood9966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 I know, I see them a lot. It would only be train station and back weekdays and a bit more on weekends. Actually I'll hop on your channel right now, I've never just clicked the Videos tab, what haven't I seen yet. Man, we used to know of a guy just out of Lara near Geelong that had two XC Cobra in his shed.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@davidwood9966 There are heaps of videos to watch here. You can also use the playlists, like the Falcon one and hit “play all” if you want a memory lane history from the very first Falcon onwards. 👍

    • @davidwood9966
      @davidwood9966 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 yeh I'm onto it hey. Thanks!

  • @deanstevenson6527
    @deanstevenson6527 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I worked in the Mining and Roading contract industry. It took years to take Ford seriously again: The EF was a re-dress from a very low point in "Cash Only Positive at Production" Falcons. The materials and punching in some special love into the package changed the atmospherics of those excellent EF Falcons. (Ford in the period of the XE¹/² to XF Series 2 in July 1986 destroyed the gift of the Cleveland Engine Plant transfer line for local production. To get 140 to 162 kilowatts [188 to 217 hp net like in the old days] you now needed not just cubic inches, but EECIV tech and instead of a 730 dollar cheque, you needed three times the money to get a multipoint Six or 5.0 'Litre V8'. Ford Australia carried that cost to get you into the 216 hp net zone. That really proves what a gift a Cleveland engine made in Geelong was. In the USA, fuel economy improved in leaps in bounds in the V8 engines, and in Australia, they opted out of a Throttle body or Port EFi V8 for 9 long years. That killed off the Falcon as a performance car with reasonable fuel economy like a 5 liter LX LTD or MTX Marquis or Mustang was. Ford Australia first started penny pinching with the continued use of local Borg Warner 40, 42 and then Whatever Four or Five speed gearboxes, and all of that cost service issues and headaches for people who just wanted something that could take a propane conversion without blowing up. The most searing criticism was the assurance that if you bought an EA- EF on Propane, you were guaranteed to blow a headgasket and would need a radiator upgrade to counteract the sand that leached out of the aluminium cylinder head castings. When multiple port EFi became standard, the employment of optional LP Gas then caused Ford Australia to push a whole lot of changes to the onboard Electronics..changes that should have occured in 1985 when the Bronco and F-100 5 litre V8 195 hp was included. It wasn't Jac Nasser who ruined the runaway gain in popularity of the EA and EB, it was the penny pinching under Bill Dix and Max Gransden, all to meet production cost targets and sales leadership requirements from Dearborn. Those guys, pulled apart the ages old Ford produced FMX based newer overdrive automatic and C4 and Toploader and heavy duty Single Rail based gearboxes, and replaced them with cheap, nasty parts, like the locally made Nissan based 2bbl Central Fuel Injection and breakage prone BTR gearboxes and clutch cables. Where Ford Australia thought they had a Better Idea, it was a More Complicated Less Elegant better idea, like EFi that didn't suit Impco LPG systems. When Ford Australia saved money, it was with a locally made knock off part, like the Throttle Body EFi with Chrysler/Nissan injectors, or the Quadrant clutch cable, or the downgraded AC Delco two way catalyst, or the roll over steer prone rear mounted rack and pinion steering box, where as the Fox, SN95 and 1989 MN12 used Cortina/ Jaguar based Front mounted steering gear. Everything resulted in decimating the old reliability found in the XA-XC's, and the locally developed EA to ED's are some of the most complicated cars to data log and fix. Whereas, a US Fox Mustang, Crown Victoria or MN12 Thunderbird is one of the best used cars to trash on. Ford Australia did fix things, the EF was the start , but an EL had to move backwards the EECIV and put a distributor back in a Six cylinder Falcon for the LPG boys in the Taxi market, and then Ford Oz really forced the component makers ( like BTR) to push a proper international component sales agenda to Sassyong, Maserati and Volvo to get reliability back on track.)

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wow! Thanks for that info. I own a few Fox body Mustangs, Panther Crown Vics and Marquis, so it is interesting to hear about the variations in components. 👍

  • @jarramckay-collins7668
    @jarramckay-collins7668 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Manual transmission XH XR6 utes were 2 door sports cars. Light older body with around 160kw. Very tail happy cars and heaps of fun on dirt roads hahaha

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, a lot of fun 👍

  • @ngodongbach473
    @ngodongbach473 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    looking forward to the mighty AU!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, that will be a mega episode! 👍

  • @GL-xz3xk
    @GL-xz3xk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A marmite car, some people love them and had zero problems, others seemed to be cursed. Saw many EF/EL taxis using EA engines and three speed autos to try and keep costs down, Frankenstein cars built out of all sorts of Falcon models to just get them back on the road. One thing I’ll ever forget in an Aussie Falcon is that bloody awful BTR auto transmission whine from a standing start! I always lusted after a blue XR6 manual sedan or now that I’m older, a unicorn that is a wagon!

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, or Vegemite! 😀. An XR6 wagon would be nice. 👍

  • @ianmccarthy4195
    @ianmccarthy4195 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Any chance you could do the Commodore ranges as well keep up the good work

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I will absolutely be doing those in the future, so please Subscribe and hit the bell notification icon to let you know when new episodes come up. 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Did anyone with an EF manual alway find the rpm would hang on gear change’s which gave it a crap gear change. Main reason why I sold mine and bought a EL Ghia when it was released.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Interesting. I have not heard that before. 🤔👍

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 I thought it was mine until I drove another new one, exactly the same.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@tba3900 Right 🤔

  • @firstworldproblems6064
    @firstworldproblems6064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    its one of my favourite cars. to me it's a perfect machine

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. The XR models in particular are spectacular looking cars. 👍

    • @firstworldproblems6064
      @firstworldproblems6064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 someone told me i had a thickford motor in her from the xr that came the years after. i have a feeling it may have been a ford factory workers car with some nifty extras. bright red sedan with some lovely shark fin tornado rims i out on her. dammm

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@firstworldproblems6064 Sounds like a peach. 👍

    • @firstworldproblems6064
      @firstworldproblems6064 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 i have a red fg falcon now. zoom zoom

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@firstworldproblems6064 Nice 👍

  • @phillipm1039
    @phillipm1039 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I went from an ED futura too a EL futura and what a difference it was beautiful car to drive and I believe the ghia fitted with the uprated 6 cylinder had gold letters on the rub strip denoting 4.0.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool. I thought they were silver but you could be right there? They had great interiors. 👍

  • @Low760
    @Low760 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved the el/ef fairmont ghia.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, cool cars. 👍

  • @OLDS98
    @OLDS98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The series continues! This styling is an vast improvement. This is a nice upgrade. The front end resembled not only the Thunderbird, it resembled Crown Victoria which was restyled for 1992 model year. It also looks similiar to the updated 1992 Taurus. The Fairmont and Fairmont Ghia grille looked like the updated 1998 Ford Contour/Mondeo front end styling. I enjoyed hearing about your work on the Holdens at that time too. Who knew that Ford impacted the Holden. That was interesting. The XR Series had good looking front ends. Why didn't the put the antenna on the trunk as opposed to the front fenders. I must say Ford of Australia looks better than Amerircan Ford during the same time. Thank you again.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Olds98 and good pick up re the Crown Victoria too. And I can see the Taurus and Contour family resemblance too. 👍

    • @OLDS98
      @OLDS98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 You are welcome. This Falcon generation was not bad looking. It looked more Ford as it should. There is a point you cannot tell when Australia Ford influenced American Ford or the other way around. I still think the Holden story was good.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@OLDS98 I think we generally took influences from the USA and Europe bit put our own blended spin on it to suit our market. Ford MD said back in the XD days that Germany had the closest taste to Australia when in came to styling in the 1980’s. Interesting. 👍

    • @OLDS98
      @OLDS98 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 I noticed what you said is true over the years at Ford Australia and GM ( Holden). I have seen Holdens that look like Oldsmobiles and Pontiac other American GM parts on Holdens . I saw Cadillac exterior mirrors on a earlier Statesman Caprice. I really can see especially with this car 1990's American Ford influence. I have seen Lincoln influence on LTD/Fairlane several times over.. Some of the earlier Falcons you shared looked like European Fords. One looked like Nissan/Mazda as well. I agree with your statement, but I would say Ford Australia and GM ( Holden) are more connected to the United States if anything. You guys kept the spirit of the UTE and and other cars alive after the United States had left those behind. You guys put an interesting twist. Look at the Holdens you worked on. You cannot see anymore that was based on Opel /Vauxhall Omega. You guys also modify the cars in width and things like that. You said they thought the Taurus was too small for Ford Australia and it was a midsized car for years. It did move to fullsize until the end in recent times. I think that the last Ford LTD in Australia was a great looking car. It would have made a great replacement for Crown Victoria and Grand Marquis in the United States. With modifications a great Lincoln Town Car.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@OLDS98 Yes the US influence was strong and while I was at Ford and Holden I certainly pushed that direction as much as possible while still ensuring the cars would be well received locally. 👍

  • @WilliamVandervleut
    @WilliamVandervleut 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My parents had an 1995 EF Fairmont Wagon in Bordeaux when I was a kid, my nan bought a 1996 EF2 Futura Olympic Classic Sedan in Heritage Green. My parents Fairmont felt a lot nicer and more premium than the Futura that's for sure and seemed to be smoother on the road too.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice you had two in the extended family 👍

  • @arokh72
    @arokh72 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The EF/EL has always been my favourite Falcon, in terms of design, especially in XR trim. Sadly, I was too poor at the time to get one, even just an XR6, and funnily enough this holds true today, at least for a decent condition example. I look forward to your AU coverage, as my first Falcon was a used AU XR6, non VCT. I actually offloaded a VT Commodore VT S pak for it :) I didn't like the interior, I loved the exterior looks.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks. Maybe you could buy a doer upper? Like my AU VCT XR6 on the channel but in EF or EL form? 👍

  • @shaun30-3-mg9zs
    @shaun30-3-mg9zs 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Mark, I can see what you mean about the front of the Falcon EF styling from the US Ford Thunderbird , and now fitted with plastic head head lamps which can "yellow" through ultra violet. I was surprised in the mid 90's that the 4.0 OHC engine was not up graded to a DOHC 4 valves per cylinder as this was the way of engines in the 90's were being made but it still has plenty of power. At this time a lot of European cars including European Fords were making Diesel engines, Did Ford of Australia produce a diesel for this car or any other Ford. Personally I'm not a diesel fan and never had a diesel car. As always good to be up to date with the Australian car production, the past and today, Great video Take care

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks Shaun. The DOHC 24 valves came later. The cars had great torque so the SOHC did a great job. No diesels in local Fords until the Territory, which used a Land Rover engine. It was quite popular but diesels have fallen out of favour thanks to VW. 👍

  • @danieljones7843
    @danieljones7843 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My first car was a red EF wagon with factory 5 speed manual and since then I’ve owned heaps of EF falcons including a white XR8 with Tickford kit, FTR shark fins and sunroof and a heritage green option 20 XR8 (profile picture). I really miss the green XR8 and the red wagon.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They sound like great cars. 👍

    • @danieljones7843
      @danieljones7843 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 they were, the wagon was great to camp in and go to car meets, lift up the tailgate and kick back on the mattress with a few hundred beers (except for the designated driver of course) and the green XR8 was a comfortable freeway cruiser and lots of fun in the twisty bits. I also won the chuck a spud competition at singleton show n shine back in 2014 with the green xr8, the only driving event I have ever competed in.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danieljones7843 Fond memories hey? 👍

    • @danieljones7843
      @danieljones7843 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 some of the best times of my life

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    EB-AU1 used a diagnostic connector which was the same plug used for the EA-ED radios. So many were cut from wiring looms in wreckers
    The EF (EECV) diagnostic codes consisted on 3 digits whereas the EA to ED (EECIV) consisted of 2 digit codes. The reason was the system could diagnose it self much better as the processor speed and memory capacity jumped significantly. Sample rate from sensors improved leading to an items like knock sensor ,sequential injection , incorporated transmission control,improved spark timing , broadband manifolds, A/C pressure, cooling fans, coil on plug etc etc. EECV had more pin , which allowed for more sensors or electrically driven components to be added.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am loving this info 👍👍👍

    • @MrVsbt1
      @MrVsbt1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man I wish I could get a scan tool for my EF I'd thought it was rather odd they never had a engine light like the commodores had since VN it took until AU to put one in

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MrVsbt1 Are they not available? 👍🤔

    • @MrVsbt1
      @MrVsbt1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 well I can't seemed to find one unless I fork out $$$$ for a snap on or something like that with plugs and software

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@MrVsbt1 Hopefully someone here will give you an answer. 👍

  • @chuckselvage3157
    @chuckselvage3157 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I owned a XR6 EF manual.They were pretty quick.I traded it for a BA Futura lol.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That EF manual would have been a nice car. 👍

  • @tba3900
    @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    EF was the first to introduce a digital odometer. This had a diagnostic mode which you could use a digital temp gauge, voltmeter etc, but pain in the arse to enter the mode
    First 6 cylinder to have EEC5 and sequential injection and DFI. Most EF had an extended crank time due to the dirty signal from the crankshaft position sensors picking up feedback from the starter. Some were that bad they would start at all.
    By now the LE95 auto trans had all the bugs ironed out of it and actually was a very reliable unit .
    Fords diff supplier Borg Warner had a lot of diff bearing failures . The bearing were source from timkin Canada not Australia
    The umbrella handbrake was retired and a handbrake lever finally introduced. . But of you had a 6 seater the park brake lever was between the drivers door and drivers seat. The newly designed Australian designed banksia park brake was introduced
    Finally after years of leaks the rocker cover gasket was changed to rubber.
    Broadband manifold was introduced
    Electric thermal fans introduced
    Finally the wired fusible links replaced and a new fuse box was installed under the bonnet. Now all falcons had a 110A alternator because of the higher electrical demand on the system and a serpentine belt replaced the usual 3 belt combination

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Great additional details. 👍👍

    • @jamesfrench7299
      @jamesfrench7299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      EA - EB1 Fairmont Ghia and EB1 Fairmont only had a digital odometer that came with the digital dash.
      Also the XF Fairmont Ghia.

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesfrench7299 yeah your right. Completely forgot about the,. It became standard in EF to reduce fraudulent speedo wind backs. It was easy all,easy to wind back speedo on the old ones. Today’s instrument clusters can only be advanced in km and done maximum 3 times.

    • @jamesfrench7299
      @jamesfrench7299 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@tba3900 dashes from a lower Km wreck can be swapped out.

    • @tba3900
      @tba3900 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jamesfrench7299 With Falcon ,From September 2010 the car wont start. . PATS was incorporated into the IIPC to prevent this dash swop.

  • @EdmundSampson-pd7vi
    @EdmundSampson-pd7vi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Been patiently waiting for this one, good one Mark.i remember when commodore came same year these really stuck with me looking much more modern, i just didn't like how long the rear end was. One thing i learned is how shit american designers are at doing our cars😂

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. Glad you liked it. The rear was slightly long. I noticed that a lot more on the Fairlane rear end. 👍

    • @EdmundSampson-pd7vi
      @EdmundSampson-pd7vi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@markbehr88 the American ones looked terrible 🤮the xr models looked way better than the Holden's at the time

  • @davydoo81
    @davydoo81 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The EF series 1 Ghia had the standard 157kw 4.0, it wasn’t till the series 2 EF the Ghia received the Tickford 4.0..

  • @jacobhaussmann90
    @jacobhaussmann90 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Had 3 still got a 94 ef Fairmont

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s great you still have one. So do I. A dark green V8 Fairmont. 👍

  • @thelandofnod123
    @thelandofnod123 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had an EF II. Great car, except for the head.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fair enough. 👍

  • @michaelbyrnes7944
    @michaelbyrnes7944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool video so my old engineer mate told me yesterday that the 302 Windsor small block v8 LS 1 heads bolt straight on and that the LS chev engine was a copy of the 351 Windsor v8 I definitely know what I’m going to do with my xh Ute and 1975 TD cortina now go find too AU falcons for donor cars with 302 roller cam Windsor engines

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks. Good luck on the V8 Au’s. I am sure there are some out there but going up in $$. 👍

    • @michaelbyrnes7944
      @michaelbyrnes7944 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 to me there’s nothing better than a modified small block Windsor putting one in my TD cortina will be heaven Summernats here we come..

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@michaelbyrnes7944 My mate used to have one in his TC. Went like a bullet 👍

  • @joannemarc9121
    @joannemarc9121 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish they did a typhoon wagon or turbo wagon with the last models

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I did think of a wagon but by then Ford only have a standard 6 and no turbo or V8. The cost of doing the certification and reprogramming with Bosch for ABS etc would make it a challenge too. But I like the idea. 😀👍

  • @mathewhyland8925
    @mathewhyland8925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Fairmont has a sports button on the gear lever to increase the rev range .

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Probably a power / economy setting. 👍

    • @mathewhyland8925
      @mathewhyland8925 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@markbehr88 something along those like Mark on the the gear shift mate.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mathewhyland8925 👍

  • @trship6274
    @trship6274 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Were the roll annd handling issues of the EF an issue from the EA through to the ED or did they commence with the EF?

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I think it was a specific issue with the EF. Too soft. 👍

  • @REPOMAN24722
    @REPOMAN24722 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the ED and EF, the EL grille put me off. The EF looks like something that could be sold in America. Don't know why the EF went with orange indicators.

    • @markbehr88
      @markbehr88  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes those indicators on EL were a backward styling step. 👍