Hey dynasty i BEAT 6 star levi r4 bomber r9 malgus r7 dagger with my r5 crew 5 stars exe with the dagger initial lineup. Your turn order: ig exe cad rc. Kill order: Bomber fury dagger sith assassin. Strategy: ig opens with special, exe mass assist bomber, xb call ig to assist, then rc call cad to assist. They will do their thing, just play along. After assist contract triggered. Then call boba, for some reason my opponent called in assassin and none of enemy ships had foresight, then immediately my exe calls out boba and seismic. I think the key here is timing, they call sith assassin and thats when it still didnt grant foresight to everyone. Call boba immediately to seismic them, this is when u take out their bomber for good, try to target malgus for ability block but if u cant thats fine i couldnt target malgus either in my winning match. Boba counter attack will dispel the following foresights on malgus dagger assassin. Kill malgus then kill dagger, they will take ur exe thats fine finally take out their assassin before they insta kill with sith empire trooper. Hope that ur xb double tap all the time. They did stun my rc with sith assassin but I still won. The good thing about dagger line up is they dont call sith empire trooper to insta kill u, they call sith asassin which gives u more time. At 7 stars they get isolate and its even trickier but hope this helps
Was hoping to see a line up with starting Tie Dagger and SF as first reinforcement since that's the one that's been sitting on top of my fleet arena for over a month now. Tried around 40 times to beat it with various team and turn order combinations, but it just seems almost impossible to beat with Executor :c
if you check the last battle in the video there is Dagger, but yes vs Dagger not so effective as mentioned. Also hard to test for me vs Dagger as top 50 is all SF starting due to people using Levi mirrors
Hello! I'm working on getting executor (my first good capital) and I was wondering how important it is to have those high relics on the bounty hunters. Is r8 on all of them the best option for beating things like leviathan or is having some lower a more optimal strategy? I'd really appreciate any advice
This has helped me so much, but I still struggle a lot... I'm trying the strategy from 23:23 in the vid. Their Sith Fighter is r5. Often I can get it down, but often I can't. It's maybe a bit less than 50/50. Only thing I can think of is my ships are a bit faster than yours in the vid. Yours are clocked at 183, 182, 166, and mine are 186, 185, 167 respectively. Pretty sure the turn order remains the same, but I'm always just a fraction short of killing Sith Fighter, and then it heals up and it's basically gg. Am I missing something? Any help would save my life! Thanks for all you do 🙏 EDIT: After re-watching from the start, I think maybe it's because my first two ships are faster than Leviathan? As you say, the Ferocity lowers their defense, so maybe that's the difference in getting the kill? Gonna try it now.
IF you had to rank each of these compositions in terms of reliability, what would be a simplified list? I've got an R8 Beskar Mando, Cad Bane, Boba, and Piett, but only a R5 IG-88. I'm torn between going the "Slow Piett" route, which means I don't have to take my IG-88 from R5 to R7/8, or the "Fast IG-2000" route, which means more resources, but I get to keep mods on my Piett for GAC. If you got to choose between the two for an upcoming match, which would you prefer?
yeah it's a tough choice, I guess it depends how badly would it hurt not to have mods on Piett? Maybe now that we have Dark Trooper Moff Gideon, Veers and Piett are no longer needed? If Gideon can do what Veers and Piett can or even more, then use for Piett drops, then not having mods on him would be ok... So maybe let's wait and see a bit :)
Tbh I don’t really know why anyone would use sith fighter starting on defense unless they’re too lazy to switch after their climb in fleet arena. As you‘ve stated it‘s easier to counter than dagger starting and additionally in gac/tw you probably won’t use ep or phantom with levi so your reinforcement order will be disrupted as mk6 will always come in over dagger and maul so you won’t get an instakill
@@Bitdynasty guess most people do mirrors then. With my 5* levi the only higher star levis I can beat are those with sith fighter starting as no matter what happens at least I can instakill the bomber while they can’t (still may time out afterwards though if they get ult first)
@@Bitdynasty guess most people do mirrors then. With my 5* levi the only higher star levis I can beat are those with sith fighter starting as no matter what happens at least I can instakill the bomber while they can’t (still may time out afterwards though if they get ult first)
It's all great until the AI decides that, even if you go first the first time, you're going to lose every turn after that and all your ships are going to be destroyed before you can do anything. If SWGOH's fleet AI was any worse, it would be referring games in the NFL. Thanks for the video!
Hey BitDynasty, Last 2 days I’ve really struggled out of nowhere against low relic SF fleets with my Executor. Can you check and see if they buff/nerfed anything? A friend of mine sees the same thing and it’s out of nowhere. I had like a 85+% win rate now I’m down to like under 20%.
got an R9 piett, so my R5 ig-88 won't work, and I do not have the relic mats to put him to R8 (or even 9) to get faster than executor.. :-/ will watch the rest of the video asap, hopefully learn something to beat leviathan (my profundity isn't even 5* yet sadly) with my executor..
my Xanadu Blood is at 181 speed (R5 Cad Bane with 6E mods). If I Relic 6 Cad Bane, does Xanadu goes to 182 speed ? It's critical info for me. Thanks for answering anyone.
I've got an R8 S1 and all the rest of the team are R7 however in 10 attempts with the S1 team, not once have I landed a breach when trying the Razor Crest special with S1 assist on Sith Fighter as the second move of the game. Has something changed in the game dynamics? The SF is R5.
Do you mind testing this again yourself? Not once has S1 (in several weeks) landed a breach with this second move and as a result, I can never win with this team. @@Bitdynasty
@Bitdynasty, they changed smth. Now its stopped breaching the SithFighter. I am playing against low relic R5-R7 fighters. And with "S1 more relics" variant - piett 192, razor186, xanadu185, boba 183. I played almost 15 battles, and its always, its always NOT breaching... Does oneone see the same?
@@Bitdynasty thanks for the reply ... we are a newer shard think by the end of the year a levithian gonna pop up tried messaging dude to join the shard server no reply in over 2 days from 2 of us. So gotta decide if I raise the 2 r6s to 8s try marauder and lv bad batch or mirror but thats a grind too
If speeds and turn order are correct, do you think this is possible against fleets with R5 Sith Fighters? I have a 5* Executor and R3 RC and R5 XB. R5 IG and R8 Slave
I believe I previously left a nasty comment that this does not work. I don't see the comment now, but I came back to remove/revise that statement. I am finding that it works about 50-60% if Sith Fighter is R5 or below. R6 and above, I cannot seem to get the timing or damage enough to win. Still better than alternatives (of which there seem to be none). Sorry for being salty before!
Brilliant - this help me get through a Levi fleet in Ga, which I wasn't able to do before watching this. Thanks 👍👍
nice congrats!
What are your relic levels? how good is your rng?
Thank you, it was fun testing & chatting with you and Koji!
it was indeed!
Thank you for this. It’s good to see that Executor isn’t a wasted ship anymore!
not wasted for sure, good on defense in GAC :)
Hey dynasty i BEAT 6 star levi r4 bomber r9 malgus r7 dagger with my r5 crew 5 stars exe with the dagger initial lineup. Your turn order: ig exe cad rc. Kill order: Bomber fury dagger sith assassin. Strategy: ig opens with special, exe mass assist bomber, xb call ig to assist, then rc call cad to assist. They will do their thing, just play along. After assist contract triggered. Then call boba, for some reason my opponent called in assassin and none of enemy ships had foresight, then immediately my exe calls out boba and seismic. I think the key here is timing, they call sith assassin and thats when it still didnt grant foresight to everyone. Call boba immediately to seismic them, this is when u take out their bomber for good, try to target malgus for ability block but if u cant thats fine i couldnt target malgus either in my winning match. Boba counter attack will dispel the following foresights on malgus dagger assassin. Kill malgus then kill dagger, they will take ur exe thats fine finally take out their assassin before they insta kill with sith empire trooper. Hope that ur xb double tap all the time. They did stun my rc with sith assassin but I still won. The good thing about dagger line up is they dont call sith empire trooper to insta kill u, they call sith asassin which gives u more time. At 7 stars they get isolate and its even trickier but hope this helps
Great work!! Very impressive theory-crafting!
Thank you!
Great video, thanks for the effort!
Glad it was helpful!
I have a 60% win rate against tie dagger line up by using triple attackers. Turn order is IG, exec, RC, XB. My IG and RC are R8. XB is R7
nice!
Ugh I'm gonna have to r8 my ig88 aren't I...
@@nancyturner217 you’re going to do it eventually. Why not now
is a good win rate at Fleet Arena? in my fleet arena, the top 20 are full of Leviathan, rip. trying to reach the top 5 with it
Thank you for this video!!
Any time!
Thanks again 🎉🎉you are the best 👍🤘😎
Thanks 👍
Man you are the goat. Finally beat my #1 arena rank, my piett is R8 and my BAM is G12 vs 7* levi. AWESOME!
well done!
Was hoping to see a line up with starting Tie Dagger and SF as first reinforcement since that's the one that's been sitting on top of my fleet arena for over a month now. Tried around 40 times to beat it with various team and turn order combinations, but it just seems almost impossible to beat with Executor :c
if you check the last battle in the video there is Dagger, but yes vs Dagger not so effective as mentioned. Also hard to test for me vs Dagger as top 50 is all SF starting due to people using Levi mirrors
@@Bitdynasty sorry, my bad then. I swear I looked through all the timestamps and didn't see it there.
Hello! I'm working on getting executor (my first good capital) and I was wondering how important it is to have those high relics on the bounty hunters. Is r8 on all of them the best option for beating things like leviathan or is having some lower a more optimal strategy? I'd really appreciate any advice
Also, should some BH be modded for speed? I'm still learning more about high end ship battles
R5 pilots is all you need really
Okay, thanks a bunch!! @@Bitdynasty
Thanks
Welcome
This has helped me so much, but I still struggle a lot...
I'm trying the strategy from 23:23 in the vid. Their Sith Fighter is r5. Often I can get it down, but often I can't. It's maybe a bit less than 50/50.
Only thing I can think of is my ships are a bit faster than yours in the vid. Yours are clocked at 183, 182, 166, and mine are 186, 185, 167 respectively.
Pretty sure the turn order remains the same, but I'm always just a fraction short of killing Sith Fighter, and then it heals up and it's basically gg.
Am I missing something? Any help would save my life! Thanks for all you do 🙏
EDIT:
After re-watching from the start, I think maybe it's because my first two ships are faster than Leviathan? As you say, the Ferocity lowers their defense, so maybe that's the difference in getting the kill? Gonna try it now.
From my experience as long as I crit I one shot sith fighter
without removing mod, in your point of view with strat is the more reliable ? the slave 1 start or IG ? ( thanks you again in advance ;) )
I would say IG
Every Leviathan in my shard starts with Tie Dagger. I've never faced a starting Sith Assassin lineup yet.
In shards that are full of Leviathan fleets, Sith Fighter is the choice because it makes mirror matches easier
Also slave one on a basic if crits target locl he gains turnmeter
nice!
How does this counter change if the Mark 6 Interceptor is on the starting lineup instead of Sith Fighter or Tie Dorito?
it is definitely trickier I think, but I have seen it work and I have seen it fail. Hard to test it, when noone places is on defense :)
IF you had to rank each of these compositions in terms of reliability, what would be a simplified list?
I've got an R8 Beskar Mando, Cad Bane, Boba, and Piett, but only a R5 IG-88. I'm torn between going the "Slow Piett" route, which means I don't have to take my IG-88 from R5 to R7/8, or the "Fast IG-2000" route, which means more resources, but I get to keep mods on my Piett for GAC.
If you got to choose between the two for an upcoming match, which would you prefer?
yeah it's a tough choice, I guess it depends how badly would it hurt not to have mods on Piett? Maybe now that we have Dark Trooper Moff Gideon, Veers and Piett are no longer needed? If Gideon can do what Veers and Piett can or even more, then use for Piett drops, then not having mods on him would be ok... So maybe let's wait and see a bit :)
@@Bitdynasty So the “low-speed-Piett” team seems to be a more consistent counter than the “high-speed-IG-88l team?
@@ericfagre3018 at least from my testing
Tbh I don’t really know why anyone would use sith fighter starting on defense unless they’re too lazy to switch after their climb in fleet arena. As you‘ve stated it‘s easier to counter than dagger starting and additionally in gac/tw you probably won’t use ep or phantom with levi so your reinforcement order will be disrupted as mk6 will always come in over dagger and maul so you won’t get an instakill
Well my top 50 all have Sith Fighter :)
@@Bitdynasty guess most people do mirrors then. With my 5* levi the only higher star levis I can beat are those with sith fighter starting as no matter what happens at least I can instakill the bomber while they can’t (still may time out afterwards though if they get ult first)
@@Bitdynasty guess most people do mirrors then. With my 5* levi the only higher star levis I can beat are those with sith fighter starting as no matter what happens at least I can instakill the bomber while they can’t (still may time out afterwards though if they get ult first)
Hello, when you call boba in reinforcements why you use the first special and not the sismic charge please ?
to get ability blocks
It's all great until the AI decides that, even if you go first the first time, you're going to lose every turn after that and all your ships are going to be destroyed before you can do anything. If SWGOH's fleet AI was any worse, it would be referring games in the NFL. Thanks for the video!
yes you need to take SF out ASAP to stop their TM roll
Hey BitDynasty,
Last 2 days I’ve really struggled out of nowhere against low relic SF fleets with my Executor. Can you check and see if they buff/nerfed anything? A friend of mine sees the same thing and it’s out of nowhere. I had like a 85+% win rate now I’m down to like under 20%.
I haven't seen anything different myself, maybe just a bad day of RNG?
@@Bitdynasty possibly!
Which of the above amazing combinations would have the best winning percentage?
No Mods one for sure, if you can get the turn order as shown
got an R9 piett, so my R5 ig-88 won't work, and I do not have the relic mats to put him to R8 (or even 9) to get faster than executor.. :-/ will watch the rest of the video asap, hopefully learn something to beat leviathan (my profundity isn't even 5* yet sadly) with my executor..
yeah see what you can do with relics, I show ideal turn order but you can also try with what you have
my Xanadu Blood is at 181 speed (R5 Cad Bane with 6E mods). If I Relic 6 Cad Bane, does Xanadu goes to 182 speed ? It's critical info for me. Thanks for answering anyone.
yes extra relics will add more speed
I've got an R8 S1 and all the rest of the team are R7 however in 10 attempts with the S1 team, not once have I landed a breach when trying the Razor Crest special with S1 assist on Sith Fighter as the second move of the game. Has something changed in the game dynamics? The SF is R5.
Not that I would be aware of
Do you mind testing this again yourself? Not once has S1 (in several weeks) landed a breach with this second move and as a result, I can never win with this team. @@Bitdynasty
@Bitdynasty, they changed smth. Now its stopped breaching the SithFighter. I am playing against low relic R5-R7 fighters. And with "S1 more relics" variant - piett 192, razor186, xanadu185, boba 183.
I played almost 15 battles, and its always, its always NOT breaching...
Does oneone see the same?
P.s. usually thrre was 50% chance. Using strategy from september, thnx a lot!
Not that I would be aware of...
I LOVE YOU sir....
thanks!
That second move did land breach on the far left guy if you look it was there
good one!
If you have it, could you please do Negotiator Marauder vs Leviathan?
waiting for CG to 'fix' Valor :)
@@Bitdynasty if that happens.
can you do Leviathan vs Leviathan too? its difficult with sith fighter r8 and r9
Yes will be looking at this next
Does this still work if executor goes first
It can work yes, but more RNG involved
@@Bitdynasty thanks for the reply ... we are a newer shard think by the end of the year a levithian gonna pop up tried messaging dude to join the shard server no reply in over 2 days from 2 of us. So gotta decide if I raise the 2 r6s to 8s try marauder and lv bad batch or mirror but thats a grind too
At this point is chimaera still the best leviathan counter?
personally been having more success with Profundity lately
W00t w00t
you know it!
If speeds and turn order are correct, do you think this is possible against fleets with R5 Sith Fighters? I have a 5* Executor and R3 RC and R5 XB. R5 IG and R8 Slave
Not sure if 5 star Exec is fast enough?
@@BitdynastyIIRC, 5* exec max is like 179. Most 6* Levi’s are 176ish. 6* Exec goes up to 185 or 186 I believe.
@@FooDude2011 So it works for 6* and 7* Executors?
@@neop.m.6824 there are a couple counters even with 5*, and definitely with 6*. I just went to 7.
I believe I previously left a nasty comment that this does not work. I don't see the comment now, but I came back to remove/revise that statement. I am finding that it works about 50-60% if Sith Fighter is R5 or below. R6 and above, I cannot seem to get the timing or damage enough to win. Still better than alternatives (of which there seem to be none). Sorry for being salty before!
No problem 😃
For me it's like 1 in 5 battles I win with mine
Yes need turn order correct for better win rate
Thanks for nothing. Annoying content!
Thanks!