I like you don't simple show the line-up and do the battle, but take time to explain what abilities do and why you must use them or not. It really helps get a good handle on the battle when thing go just a little different. Thanks!
Thanks for all the testing Bit! As my friend Tuskan Taco said, we've been testing this matchup constantly trying to get it as consistent as possible, and we never tried using TAXI's special as the 1st move. Really excited to try this out myself and see if it helps!
You are a saint. Me and a buddy in my guild have spent over 60 battles sharing back and forth....and I think you have supplied the pieces we were missing. Amazing content and structure, as always!
Many thanks for this. I have been blindly using this strategy but never properly understood WHY I was doing each step. After watching this to understand the mechanics a lot better (plus getting Iden to G13 today), I have won this matchup 4 times in a row to get my first decent fleet payout since the leviathan buff.
Great video, I think with your worst case scenario and the enemy properly using Phantom in reinf to call that out and next turn calling our MK6 which will always kill your Defender you might not win or get it in great cleanup territory.
You should revisit executor v leviathan. There’s a fairly reliable way if their lineup has sith fighter over tie dagger. Better in fleet arena than GAC because of that Start with triple attacker lineup, then focus 100% on killing the bomber. It helps to have higher relics for more damage. I have my ig2000 faster than exec so I can breach the bomber right off the bat and guarantee the extra damage from the mass assist. You should get vaders bounty before killing him. Call in boba before bossk for the counters. Once bomber is down focus on malgus. Usually with sith fighter start their reinforcement order messes up and calls SET first. After malgus is down focus on assassin and it’s pretty much GG. I’ve been able to climb back up to first place now without scythe counter or profundity
I've found the actual worst case is first reinforcement stuns defender, they get the extra TM, and they swarm kill defender while it's stunned and cannot dodge. Seems to be the way mine play out, but that's also against all r8/9 assassin lineups.
Omg, it's amazing!!! Really work's, thanks so much to this video. Oviously, my path was the more difficult, the first one on video, but i did it very well! 🤪🤩
This is my primary counter to Levi, especially since I only have a 5* and I don't want to do a mirror Ult race once I get to 7. That being said, you said Vader does more damage, which is true for me too, so I switched up Vader's first move to get the tm and hopefully 1-shot SF. Long story short, it worked. Nice to have him out so I don't have to deal with the big tm gain that seems to really swing the battle.
You know, one thing I can't figure out - sometimes they get Disable Hangar before you can bring out Interceptor. I can't figure it out - maybe it has to do w/ Fury class mass assist/heal, or what, but a few times I notice that they get Disable Hangar out before I can bring in Interceptor, and it screws the whole counter. I know you can still call it in and it will still apply the buff immunity/dispel, but I usually can't win in this case. Thoughts?
To active the Hangar ability, they need to inflict 15 debuffs first, I think if they do that, AI will prioritise using this over brining in 1st reinforcement
I'm running my Iden at r3 and it works, I know a few in my guild running under relic and it works a little less. Some of the highlighted rng probably has to do with it too, but I want to increase my Iden relic for various reasons including this
Based on my farming path, my Thrawn is still at g12+2. What do we think about his reqs? R7+? Or functional lower than that? My sith fleet is still a slow work in progress as I go after other projects (like Leia), so any Levi counter would be great to have.
@@Bitdynasty does chimaera counter is more efficient then profundity now? Is there a specific technic w prof againts levi? With ur video i've got no more trouble w chimeara, but w prof i fail most of the time...
Any chance of a Leviathan Mirror Counter? The one whale in our shard has his pilots at r9, so its not great going up against him as his sith assassin is faster than everyone elses
Great! I will be unlocking Profundity on the 30th, once the event goes live. Is it worth it to dump most of my crystals into taking it up to 7 stars right away or is the counter so random it is not worth it? I do not have inquisitors, so I cant use the Chimaere counter. @@Bitdynasty
I can confirm that exactly. In most cases my defender get stunned by the first RI and then the mass attack comes on Scythe or Defender and the fight is lost. My Inquisitors ar R7, Iden still R3.
New comment on and old video. Great strategy on the Tie Dagger comp, that always gives me trouble. Everything seemed to be going fine but as soon as Scythe stripped taunt, the enemies took turns, not Tie Fighter and I lost control of the battle. Couldn't even salvage it with killing a ship or getting to Thrawns Ult (tthey got to Ult first). Is that modding? I don't think my TFP has 6 dot mods so maybe that was the reason? Any other thoughts?
I did a battle vs the dagger lineup and lost. There is rng whether or not thrawn lands ability block on fury interceptor, because mine didnt, so it mass swarmed onto my tie fighter and leviathan managed to disable my reinforcements and from there I lost
Though, what didn’t happen in your video illustrating the worst range, but happens to me often with the strongest Levi opponent in roster when they do mass assist on Tie defender they actually take him out.
@@Bitdynasty I don’t know if anything was changed but for typical starting lineup with Sith fighter and Emperor Shattle as first reinforcement and Mark 6 as second success rate is only 50%
Does Vader’s relic level help with its ability to ohko SF? Mine’s r7, and I’m seriously thinking about increasing it because there have been far too many instances where TIE Advanced fails to kill SF, which sometimes costs me the match in GAC and TW.
@@Bitdynasty idk why the ohko almost always works when I'm just testing it in fleet arena, and it almost never works in battles that actually matter (GAC and TW)
I was able to 2-shoot it with nego/marauder and then cleaning up with home one, but was hoping there is a reliable one-shot off-meta counter@@Bitdynasty
yeah, I have the same issue - difficult to test in gac due to risks and rarity. Probably best to sync with someone from the fleet shard chat and do some testing.@@Bitdynasty
Thanks so much for all of your wonderful videos! My fleet arena shard mostly has Leviathan call Phantom 2 as first reinforcement, which then gets the Mark VI interceptor out on next turn and then instakills Scythe. Any defense for this?
You used Negotiator v Leviathan and Levi called Phantom 2 and you won? I must be misreading The Levi with Phantom first reinforcement is really tough to get around because next call is Annihilate
@@Bitdynasty After losing once, I tried the Dagger opening which worked. I tried the delayed hit on Malgus, until after Chimera buff, but my Defender didn't one-shot him, sadly.
@@jg5571 well you get foresight up first with Tie Fighter, then it dodges, and there is your Tie Defender out already, so again not sure how that would be possible?
I'm getting some even worse RNG sometimes than your worst. After doing the Thrawn AOE, the enemy is getting to swarm attack/take out Scythe before TIE Defender gets a turn to get it's taunt up. I'm not sure how it's happening though - because sometimes I DO get to go first and get the taunt up. Weird.
I'm probably doing something wrong, but when I'm bringing in TIE Interceptor in, as it is my second reinforcement it is getting immediately destroyed. Do you know why this is happening yet your's is not having the same issue? Great video and a great help as always.
Is there a reason why Thrawn's Ult would be delayed, possibly while attacking SETs ship? While having everyone but SET and bomber dead, and attacking the former, it showed 1 cooldown for like 2-3 of Thrawn's turns in a row. Was never allowed to kill/heal and they took over the ship.
Tried a few times now, with g12.5 Iden, and I'm about 50/50. Sometimes she gets stunned and either gets swarmed or heal blocked, so Scythe can't heal. Levi ult comes soon after she dies.
When she doesn't die, they still get Ult off and I time out. Maybe my questions are answered in the examples past the first 3, but that's all I could watch before needing to climb in Arena
I managed to survive it, but I did find a slight variation to the tie dagger line up. I guess I inflicted too many debuffs and on the next turn Leviathan disabled my reinforcement rather than call his first reinforcement. So I never called Tie Interceptor, I was stuck behind Marauder. Next turn Leviathan called Sith Fighter who crippled Tie Defender and then a mine finished defender. Fortunately on my next turn Chimera destroyed marauder, Tie Advanced 1 shot Sith Fighter and Leviathan took my ship. Fortunately, it used Chimera AOE which broke my fear and I finished off Fury before another reinforcement came out.
I have a question about doing the ability block with Tie Advanced on his first move. Why are you doing that if you are going to later stun the tank with defender anyway? I usually do basic with Tie advance on his first move and then later I try to oneshot SF with Tie Fighter. If it doesn’t crit and the taunt gets back up then with your next move you can use Tie Advance to remove the taunt again and then finish SF with chimaera calling an assist on basic or with defender on its turn. Whoever ends up going first. So with scythe, Tie advance and Interceptor that’s a third way to remove the taunt from the tank. Don’t see why you should waste one of those opportunities. Or am I missing something else useful here? I know there’s the problem with the concussion mine on Tie Advance but I believe it’s still better to have that third option of taunt removal. I‘m running the counter with a g12 Iden btw and it does happen that they go and stun defender or target it down. I lose more often when I do the ability block with Tie Advance then when I use the basic. Besides that: thank you for this excellent video!
Did they change anything, my Tie Advanced critz in only 20-30% of all battles and it is pretty annoying to drive extra rounds, cause after that no chance. All my opponents have R9 ships and this oneshot is win or loose!
Hey i try to use this counter but at the point where you call an reinforcement (13:46) in most of my matches I can’t call an reinforcement. It says one CD and then I lose. I do exactly the same the only difference is that my Iden is r1 and I don’t use a full squad. Do you have any idea why this happens?
What relic levels can this beat? going against R8 SASS and defender is getting stunned from reinf then focused and killed. Have so far been unable to replicate this in FA with the higher level OPs. Any suggestions for full R7/8/9 levi starts? SASS start, not dagger.
I am encountering a bug or whatever problem it seems.. the battle scenario 4 (with tie dagger) when tie dagger uses special.. its locking my chimera out to reinforce in first time. I dont know why but i have been encountering this since last two days
My success rate recently drop. My Vader doesn’t seem to be able to take our SA(r9). Is it bad rng? Did something change? How can I increase my success rate with Vader R7?
I’ve been trying this against a shard mate. His Levi always brings in Tie Interceptor first and not Mark 6. This gets them their buffs needed to block my tie interceptor reinforcement. Also our turn orders are different. It always ends up my tie has the turn to try and one shot sith fighter not Vader. Any suggestions 😊thx
If Tie Advanced uses basic on its first turn, it won't gain TM and jump ahead of Tie Fighter. Feels like TF has a better chance to one shot Sith Fighter?
not from my testing, my Tie Fighter does less damage than Tie Advanced, also the idea is to kill SF before TF gets a turn, in case he has mines on him, gets a turn, mines explode, then SF and Levi gain TM, if Advanced goes before that, and one shots SF, no TM gains :)
I think CG may have made a stealth AI change... They always target Iden with the reinforcement now and stun her (instead of Vader), then she can't dodge and dies and it basically disables the 1 shot counter with this.
@@Bitdynasty That's a good point! In my last 2 battles, I was forced to basic before their reinforcement, she would have resilient defense in that case. Then it would be RNG if they decide to target her or not with Mark VI for the stun?
Normally I don't comment, but it was so good, that I'll drop it just for the Algo.
thanks so much for the support!
I like you don't simple show the line-up and do the battle, but take time to explain what abilities do and why you must use them or not. It really helps get a good handle on the battle when thing go just a little different. Thanks!
yes, I think it is good to explain so you can adjust strategy accordingly :)
Thanks for all the testing Bit! As my friend Tuskan Taco said, we've been testing this matchup constantly trying to get it as consistent as possible, and we never tried using TAXI's special as the 1st move. Really excited to try this out myself and see if it helps!
Thanks, hope it helps 😃
You are a saint. Me and a buddy in my guild have spent over 60 battles sharing back and forth....and I think you have supplied the pieces we were missing. Amazing content and structure, as always!
Thanks, glad I could help!
What was the missing piece?
@@jessierolan Opening with Tie Advanced Special instead of basic to avoid Levi TM gain. Am testing in my own arena now, but the logic makes sense.
Many thanks for this. I have been blindly using this strategy but never properly understood WHY I was doing each step. After watching this to understand the mechanics a lot better (plus getting Iden to G13 today), I have won this matchup 4 times in a row to get my first decent fleet payout since the leviathan buff.
Nice work!
Thanks, it works, but often I can't call-in Tie Defender at the beginning and have to wait for 1 round more. Do you know why so?
do you have any non-Sith or non-Empire ships in reinforcements?
You’re a legend bitdynasty!! Hope you feel appreciated my man because these videos are so so helpful 🙏
I appreciate that!
Brilliant info as usual 👏 walked through them 👍
Glad it was helpful!
Amazing walk through, first try after getting scythe and it was so easy with your help
Nice work!
Great video, I think with your worst case scenario and the enemy properly using Phantom in reinf to call that out and next turn calling our MK6 which will always kill your Defender you might not win or get it in great cleanup territory.
Phantom with Leviathan? Never seen that one before...
@Bitdynasty it's the META in TW and people using it now in GAC and arena, it forces MK6 to reinf 2nd for annihilate
@@Bitdynastypeople started using it so they can use 2nd reinf in next turn for an Annihilate
Just unlocked Scythe, and after watching your guide, I am back in Fleet Arena business, thanks mate
congrats on the unlock!
Just wanted to say a BIG THANKS! Since seeing this guide I've been kicking the ass of the Leviathans in my arena with almost no problem.
Nice 🤠
You should revisit executor v leviathan. There’s a fairly reliable way if their lineup has sith fighter over tie dagger. Better in fleet arena than GAC because of that
Start with triple attacker lineup, then focus 100% on killing the bomber. It helps to have higher relics for more damage. I have my ig2000 faster than exec so I can breach the bomber right off the bat and guarantee the extra damage from the mass assist. You should get vaders bounty before killing him. Call in boba before bossk for the counters. Once bomber is down focus on malgus. Usually with sith fighter start their reinforcement order messes up and calls SET first. After malgus is down focus on assassin and it’s pretty much GG. I’ve been able to climb back up to first place now without scythe counter or profundity
nice, good to know, will be trying this out as well!
Just tried it - worked perfectly! Thanks! 🎉
Great to hear!
I've found the actual worst case is first reinforcement stuns defender, they get the extra TM, and they swarm kill defender while it's stunned and cannot dodge. Seems to be the way mine play out, but that's also against all r8/9 assassin lineups.
it may happen yes, hence why I mentioned I did lose 2 times in my testing. I guess it depends how high relic is your Iden
@@BitdynastyWhat do you recommend on her? Mine was swarmed down too
@@Bitdynasty how does Iden relic level impact this? Mine is still g12. I struggle vs r9 Sith assassin
Great video! Thanks!
You bet!
Omg, it's amazing!!! Really work's, thanks so much to this video. Oviously, my path was the more difficult, the first one on video, but i did it very well! 🤪🤩
Glad it helped!
Love all your videos... Thanks for making us all better players!!
I appreciate that!
This is my primary counter to Levi, especially since I only have a 5* and I don't want to do a mirror Ult race once I get to 7. That being said, you said Vader does more damage, which is true for me too, so I switched up Vader's first move to get the tm and hopefully 1-shot SF.
Long story short, it worked. Nice to have him out so I don't have to deal with the big tm gain that seems to really swing the battle.
yes, from my testing Vader does more damage, plus his basic can't be avoided which is nice!
This is a huge help to my grand arena frustrations. I can counter the Lev now !
Great 👍
You know, one thing I can't figure out - sometimes they get Disable Hangar before you can bring out Interceptor. I can't figure it out - maybe it has to do w/ Fury class mass assist/heal, or what, but a few times I notice that they get Disable Hangar out before I can bring in Interceptor, and it screws the whole counter. I know you can still call it in and it will still apply the buff immunity/dispel, but I usually can't win in this case. Thoughts?
To active the Hangar ability, they need to inflict 15 debuffs first, I think if they do that, AI will prioritise using this over brining in 1st reinforcement
@@Bitdynasty so it sounds like it's an rng thing, whether the AI will do this or that. Any way to control it on our side?
@@_Cleck_ hardly ever happens from my experience, only 1 time in about 50 battles
What are the relic level “must haves” for the various pilots in the fleet? Minimums, etc?
not sure to be honest, the main ones are Tie Advanced and Tie Defender for damage
I'm running my Iden at r3 and it works, I know a few in my guild running under relic and it works a little less. Some of the highlighted rng probably has to do with it too, but I want to increase my Iden relic for various reasons including this
Based on my farming path, my Thrawn is still at g12+2. What do we think about his reqs? R7+? Or functional lower than that? My sith fleet is still a slow work in progress as I go after other projects (like Leia), so any Levi counter would be great to have.
@@PapaShua247 mine is r6 because I needed him for SEE. It's probably functional at g12+, just see how much speed you get from maxed mods on him.
Specifically wondering about Iden, myself
You are the best WORK in GAC thanks so much…..
Happy to help
Tks so much for the video 🙏
Anytime
@@Bitdynasty does chimaera counter is more efficient then profundity now? Is there a specific technic w prof againts levi? With ur video i've got no more trouble w chimeara, but w prof i fail most of the time...
@@hedidesrochers5188 I am testing Profundity now, so expect that guid soon
Any chance of a Leviathan Mirror Counter? The one whale in our shard has his pilots at r9, so its not great going up against him as his sith assassin is faster than everyone elses
yes, I will be testing mirror also. Doing Profundity counter testing now, next up Executor, then finally mirror :)
Just won my GAC with this strategy, thanks!
Congrats on the win 👏
@@Bitdynasty Thanks! Definitely bookmarking this one for the future.
Thank you so so much for this!!!
Any time!
Great video, will you do one for Profundity aswell? There are not enough videos that go in depth in how reliable the Profundity is after the buffs.
yes this is my next project!
Great! I will be unlocking Profundity on the 30th, once the event goes live. Is it worth it to dump most of my crystals into taking it up to 7 stars right away or is the counter so random it is not worth it? I do not have inquisitors, so I cant use the Chimaere counter. @@Bitdynasty
@@PoliceOfficerBob594without 7* it's pretty impossible to beat Leviathan. You need the maxed basic to give bonus turns to Outrider
@@livid7034 How reliable do you find the Profundity counter?
@@PoliceOfficerBob594 I don't run it. My prof is only 5*, getting it to 7* in 6 days. I use my 7* Levi and have been practicing Chimaera for GAC
I stiill have a lot of problems getting this to work. They tend to focus down either my Defender or Scythe at which point I'm hosed.
what are relic levels on your Scythe and Defender?
Both Scythe pilots are r7 and Iden is r5.
I can confirm that exactly. In most cases my defender get stunned by the first RI and then the mass attack comes on Scythe or Defender and the fight is lost. My Inquisitors ar R7, Iden still R3.
New comment on and old video. Great strategy on the Tie Dagger comp, that always gives me trouble. Everything seemed to be going fine but as soon as Scythe stripped taunt, the enemies took turns, not Tie Fighter and I lost control of the battle. Couldn't even salvage it with killing a ship or getting to Thrawns Ult (tthey got to Ult first).
Is that modding? I don't think my TFP has 6 dot mods so maybe that was the reason? Any other thoughts?
Was that vs Dagger or Sith Fighter starting?
@@Bitdynasty Dagger
I did a battle vs the dagger lineup and lost. There is rng whether or not thrawn lands ability block on fury interceptor, because mine didnt, so it mass swarmed onto my tie fighter and leviathan managed to disable my reinforcements and from there I lost
thanks for sharing
Though, what didn’t happen in your video illustrating the worst range, but happens to me often with the strongest Levi opponent in roster when they do mass assist on Tie defender they actually take him out.
it can happen but very rare from my experience
@@Bitdynasty about 10-20% in my case.
@@Bitdynasty and just today mass attack on Scythe and it was gone, so there is quite some rng
@@Bitdynasty I don’t know if anything was changed but for typical starting lineup with Sith fighter and Emperor Shattle as first reinforcement and Mark 6 as second success rate is only 50%
its weird since i uprgraded my thrawn to relic 6 i cannot beat levi anymore
should not matter, mine is R6 and it works just fine
Excelent as usual
Thanks again!
Does Vader’s relic level help with its ability to ohko SF? Mine’s r7, and I’m seriously thinking about increasing it because there have been far too many instances where TIE Advanced fails to kill SF, which sometimes costs me the match in GAC and TW.
it's only marginally improved
@@Bitdynasty idk why the ohko almost always works when I'm just testing it in fleet arena, and it almost never works in battles that actually matter (GAC and TW)
Mate I love your videos. You just won me a gac ! By 2 banners doing this
Congrats on the win!
As always very detailed and usefull video. Does gear on thrawn influence dps of my ship ? My thrawn is only g12 and I do not get 1 shot on sas. Thx
no, Thrawn gear will only really effect Chimaera speed
Thank you 😊
what relic level is needed on the scythe pilots?
The higher the better
got any counters vs the mark 6 interceptor starting lineup?
Maybe Negotiator with Marauder? Should be able to nuke Mark 6 before it gets a turn? Otherwise Chimaera still works somewhat.
I was able to 2-shoot it with nego/marauder and then cleaning up with home one, but was hoping there is a reliable one-shot off-meta counter@@Bitdynasty
@@alinstoian4393 there probably is but it's rare to see it on defense so hard to test
yeah, I have the same issue - difficult to test in gac due to risks and rarity. Probably best to sync with someone from the fleet shard chat and do some testing.@@Bitdynasty
Thanks so much for all of your wonderful videos!
My fleet arena shard mostly has Leviathan call Phantom 2 as first reinforcement, which then gets the Mark VI interceptor out on next turn and then instakills Scythe.
Any defense for this?
I used Negotiator for this today, maybe I just got lucky :)
You used Negotiator v Leviathan and Levi called Phantom 2 and you won? I must be misreading
The Levi with Phantom first reinforcement is really tough to get around because next call is Annihilate
@@boonchang1889 yeah but at that time you have Unending Loyalty on your team, so they don't get insta killed
Thanks a lot.
In battle 3, tie deffender will go before sith fighter even if it is R8 ?
Yes, I have done this vs full R9 defense
BD, what would you recommend vs mk4 in the starting 3?
MK4 starting? that is a new one, never seen it!
@@Bitdynasty After losing once, I tried the Dagger opening which worked. I tried the delayed hit on Malgus, until after Chimera buff, but my Defender didn't one-shot him, sadly.
@@Bitdynasty Having more trouble with this lineup, also with mk4, my second Reinforcement comes in to die. :(
Lost 3x to it today, trying to practice.
I keep following this, but scythe gets one shotted out the gate. How do I fix this
that should not be possible, as Tie Defender keeps taunting?
@@Bitdynasty it’s the opening salvo - so tie defender isn’t even out yet…it’s like the first three moves. Sometimes it happens sometimes it doesn’t.
@@jg5571 well you get foresight up first with Tie Fighter, then it dodges, and there is your Tie Defender out already, so again not sure how that would be possible?
I'm getting some even worse RNG sometimes than your worst. After doing the Thrawn AOE, the enemy is getting to swarm attack/take out Scythe before TIE Defender gets a turn to get it's taunt up.
I'm not sure how it's happening though - because sometimes I DO get to go first and get the taunt up. Weird.
Oh, it happens when the B28 Bomber resists Thrawn's TM removal, then they swarm/kill Scythe
it can happen occasionally, but yes strange
I'm probably doing something wrong, but when I'm bringing in TIE Interceptor in, as it is my second reinforcement it is getting immediately destroyed. Do you know why this is happening yet your's is not having the same issue? Great video and a great help as always.
it can happen occasionally, but very rare from my testing
It’s so dependent on whether or not iden gets stunned. If she gets stunned it’s basically over
It depends, can still win
I wonder how would you play if you would face Interceptor as 2nd reinforcement and shuttle as first.
I find those easier to beat, as with shuttle 1st, they usually don't get enough debuffs out to disable reinforcements
@@Bitdynasty so the logic remains the same as in first battles, right?
huh, what is the relic level on Thrawn?
Relic 6
Is there a reason why Thrawn's Ult would be delayed, possibly while attacking SETs ship? While having everyone but SET and bomber dead, and attacking the former, it showed 1 cooldown for like 2-3 of Thrawn's turns in a row. Was never allowed to kill/heal and they took over the ship.
if you have any non Empire / Sith ships, you don't get that 1 turn cooldown reduction from the Advanced / Interceptor combo
Tried a few times now, with g12.5 Iden, and I'm about 50/50. Sometimes she gets stunned and either gets swarmed or heal blocked, so Scythe can't heal. Levi ult comes soon after she dies.
@@Bitdynastylast two ships are Shuttle and Reaper. They should be good, yeah?
When she doesn't die, they still get Ult off and I time out. Maybe my questions are answered in the examples past the first 3, but that's all I could watch before needing to climb in Arena
Any other idea why Thrawn's ult would stay at 1, if all my ships are Empire? It only happened when I tried to focus down mk4 that time
I managed to survive it, but I did find a slight variation to the tie dagger line up. I guess I inflicted too many debuffs and on the next turn Leviathan disabled my reinforcement rather than call his first reinforcement. So I never called Tie Interceptor, I was stuck behind Marauder. Next turn Leviathan called Sith Fighter who crippled Tie Defender and then a mine finished defender. Fortunately on my next turn Chimera destroyed marauder, Tie Advanced 1 shot Sith Fighter and Leviathan took my ship. Fortunately, it used Chimera AOE which broke my fear and I finished off Fury before another reinforcement came out.
Nicely done 👍
I have a question about doing the ability block with Tie Advanced on his first move. Why are you doing that if you are going to later stun the tank with defender anyway?
I usually do basic with Tie advance on his first move and then later I try to oneshot SF with Tie Fighter. If it doesn’t crit and the taunt gets back up then with your next move you can use Tie Advance to remove the taunt again and then finish SF with chimaera calling an assist on basic or with defender on its turn. Whoever ends up going first.
So with scythe, Tie advance and Interceptor that’s a third way to remove the taunt from the tank. Don’t see why you should waste one of those opportunities. Or am I missing something else useful here? I know there’s the problem with the concussion mine on Tie Advance but I believe it’s still better to have that third option of taunt removal.
I‘m running the counter with a g12 Iden btw and it does happen that they go and stun defender or target it down.
I lose more often when I do the ability block with Tie Advance then when I use the basic.
Besides that: thank you for this excellent video!
it is to avoid getting mines on Advanced, and also that way he jumps ahead of Tie Fighter, so no mines exploding, meaning no tm gain for enemies
If anyone is wondering about the Relic lvls I have had reliable results with a R5 Tie Pilot, R7 GI and R0 no 6 dot mods on Iden.
thanks
Did they change anything, my Tie Advanced critz in only 20-30% of all battles and it is pretty annoying to drive extra rounds, cause after that no chance. All my opponents have R9 ships and this oneshot is win or loose!
Not that I would be aware of. I use this counter every day in arena, and even when I don't get one shot on Tie Advanced still works for me very good
Hey i try to use this counter but at the point where you call an reinforcement (13:46) in most of my matches I can’t call an reinforcement. It says one CD and then I lose. I do exactly the same the only difference is that my Iden is r1 and I don’t use a full squad. Do you have any idea why this happens?
Do you have any non Sith / non Empire ships in reinforcements?
@@Bitdynasty no, I use Tie advanced / Imp Tie / Sycthe RI: Tie Defender / Tie Interceptor / Imp Bomber
What relic levels can this beat? going against R8 SASS and defender is getting stunned from reinf then focused and killed. Have so far been unable to replicate this in FA with the higher level OPs. Any suggestions for full R7/8/9 levi starts? SASS start, not dagger.
My Iden is R5 and works well for me
Hello but this technical is not good vs assassin r9 they kill my scythe all the time pls help
I find no difference vs R9, does you Defender not taunt?
Does Idens relic level matter ?
The higher the more reliable it is, but some have made work even with G12
I am encountering a bug or whatever problem it seems.. the battle scenario 4 (with tie dagger) when tie dagger uses special.. its locking my chimera out to reinforce in first time. I dont know why but i have been encountering this since last two days
do you have non-Empire/Sith reinforcements?
Hvala. Sem že skoraj vrgel puško v koruzo 😂
Ja upam da bo pomagalo puško zadržati pri sebi :)
😂😂😂 Ma daj Friz.... 😂😂😂
Thank you
Welcome!
What if you don't have scythe yet?
then Chimaera will not work, need to use Profundity or Executor
My success rate recently drop. My Vader doesn’t seem to be able to take our SA(r9). Is it bad rng? Did something change? How can I increase my success rate with Vader R7?
It happens sometimes that Vader doesn't crit, but as long as you do R9 will go down
@@Bitdynasty so more relics on Vader? My thrawn is only r6. Does that matter?
@@Kalin_yyc mine are the same and I get by ok :)
I’ve been trying this against a shard mate. His Levi always brings in Tie Interceptor first and not Mark 6. This gets them their buffs needed to block my tie interceptor reinforcement. Also our turn orders are different. It always ends up my tie has the turn to try and one shot sith fighter not Vader. Any suggestions 😊thx
Haven't see that one, removing buffs will be a problem for sure
If Tie Advanced uses basic on its first turn, it won't gain TM and jump ahead of Tie Fighter. Feels like TF has a better chance to one shot Sith Fighter?
not from my testing, my Tie Fighter does less damage than Tie Advanced, also the idea is to kill SF before TF gets a turn, in case he has mines on him, gets a turn, mines explode, then SF and Levi gain TM, if Advanced goes before that, and one shots SF, no TM gains :)
I think CG may have made a stealth AI change... They always target Iden with the reinforcement now and stun her (instead of Vader), then she can't dodge and dies and it basically disables the 1 shot counter with this.
I guess it depends if she had resilient defense?
@@Bitdynasty That's a good point! In my last 2 battles, I was forced to basic before their reinforcement, she would have resilient defense in that case. Then it would be RNG if they decide to target her or not with Mark VI for the stun?
@@drob2978 yes that is correct 😁
The basic attack for the defender also has an extra 50% crit chance and damage.😊
Oh nice
Something doesn't click for me, I'm 8 losses to 2 wins. They go hard on scythe and after that I'm done
don't you have a taunt up?
Ok, now I see where I was making a mistake all the time
cool!
I can't get this to work my team gets destroyed
how?
@@Bitdynasty I figured it out
덕분에 오늘 GAC에서 Leviathan을 이겼습니다. 감사합니다
축하해요
Awesome
thanks!
I sort of hate how easy BD makes it look. My fights often go wrong by one of the ships dying to a swarm attack (often scythe, sometimes TIE D).
it can happen, but not very often for me, perhaps my pilots are higher relic?
Expensive counter, you need 2 conquest ships and 6 inquisitors relic. GL to ppl under 5-6m gp
well you are countering an expensive ship also :)
barely working for me now
I haven't had any issues in GAC recently... what is going wrong?
Lost the last 8 in a row, this is no longer reliable, at least not in my shard. Can't seem to one-shot SA anymore.
Interesting will try again, been testing different counters recently so haven't used Chimaera for a while
thanks, love your stuff. Do you think the levi mirror is more reliable for fleet arena?
After iden versio, get palpatine float. You can heal and dispel buff
Tie Interceptor also cleanses and dispels
Lol - so what to do without scythe?
use a different counter :)
Znaci, taj counter bez Sytchea ne vrijedi?
Also if they are R8 and bring in palp Shuttle first no win. That happens 80% for me. Back to mirror bullshit
Have you tried Profundity?
@@Bitdynastynot yet. Not a whole lot success so far
This didn’t work at all
why not?
@@Bitdynasty just didn’t I did everything right