Sad story of discrimination. But Otto was eventually able to live out his dreams of being a musician (vicariously, at least) via his son Roger Wolfe Kahn, who led a successful jazz band throughout the 1920s. Roger began his musical career at age 16, and some have said that he was the very first teen idol in the world of popular music.
We are just so blind in this country to destroy these beautiful homes in Europe they got houses 200 or 300 even 400 years old will never have that in this country because we tear everything down
Like, I don't even understand why they had to demolish Cedar Court for their Sanatorium project, while the building could have been incorporated into the whole... For example, the estate would become the office quarters, or something. Ground zero planning is just lazy and egocentric. It's also wasteful to ressources. A pure disgrace.
@@Polemodromewhile I don’t disagree, the issue often turns on the cost and practical utility of repurposing. Too often it is significantly cheaper to tear down and rebuild from scratch, which is a shame.
@@MB-nn3jw If there was a hefty tax coming with the demolition license of a heritage building, these louts would think twice before bulldozing. There should also be extra incentives towards renovation, like the possibility to hire old architecture experts, paid by the government instead of the private contractor. If it's a heritage site, it is of public interest to contribute actively in its protection. USA isn't a country with a small surface area. It's about 50 times the size of mine! You won't make me swallow that there is no way to make history coexist with economical interests.
Another fantastic video. My former home (White Hill) was built on part of the land that belonged to Burrwood (Walter Jennings estate). It was Jennings, and his friends at the Cold Spring Harbor Beach Club, shunning of Kahn that caused him to truck in so much dirt that OHEKA would theoretically be high enough to look down his nose on the society that rejected him. He purchased the land next to the Beach Club so he could erect two gigantic oil tanks. It was his way of “flipping the bird” to Jennings and his ilk as Kahn’s oil barges would sail past their homes delivering oil next to the club.
There should be no doubt that Cedar Court's interior was very grand, I found the exterior far more appealing. I think it was the chosen wallpapers that were just far too busy for me. 🤷
Any information on Otto's NYC residence out there? The Kahns, the Warburgs, the Guggenheims, and the Hirschorns were equally as important to the story of the Gilded Age as all those WASPS we hear about constantly. Would love more videos on their homes if you can sometime?
I’ll be covering more of their homes in the following months. Even after a few years of doing this, I’ve barely tipped the iceberg of incredible estates and the families who built them. Stay tuned!
Cedar Court was magnificent. I would have loved to see the gardens and parkland. The wallpaper and matching fabric kind of freaks me out but the upstairs terrace looks wonderful.
Interesting video and too bad the idea of the side by side houses for the sisters had such an early and tragic end. The exterior of the house is lovely, as are the grounds and the overall setting.
An interesting place. I'm wondering who picked the design, Otto or his father-in-law. Otto didn't marry Miss Wolff until the place was being built. The twin double tower idea is more than a little strange, and the exterior is more "Mediterranean blend" than Italian, French or Spanish. The interior shots all seem to be c. 1915. {(My guess from the light Elsie de Wolfe Influence - though she would have never put up all that wallpaper.) My guess is that the original interiors would have been total dark and heavy Renaissance style (and no flowery wallpaper). Many thanks for the as always excellent video - I'd never heard of this house before.
I live in this neighborhood today and have always found this story fascinating...Our community pool sits under the hill that looks uo to where the mansions once stood. Now there are million dollar townhouses in its place. Every time I look up there, I think of the 2 sisters. There is a random Gingko tree that is still on property... I truly believe it was planted there during the period the estate built Japanese Gardens... Most of the land on top of the hills in present day is being developed asa Red Bulls Soccer training facility... Bulldozer after Bulldozer has erased all of the flora and history there..
It’s truly remarkable how many great homes and estates there were in the start of the 20th century. America was just about at it’s most creative and industrious phase in history. The envy of the world, the most diverse landscapes, natural resources. There was nothing we couldn’t accomplish. And now all we have is a handful of homes, forgotten factories abandoned rail lines that were once the heartbeat and bloodlines of a once great nation. Our time has past, the rest of the world has moved on and watches as we Americans fight and tear our nation apart. I myself can at least say I remember a time that it wasn’t so…
As much as I would appreciate my parents building a lovely home for my partner and me, I’m not sure I’d be thrilled about being isolated in the country with my sibling the only immediate neighbor; so close she could look in my windows. I probably would have asked if we could build on opposite ends of the grounds 😆
So sad about the family not being accepted because of their religion. I'm guessing with a name like Kahn they were Jewish. Anti semitism has always been a thing since the beginning of time.
It’s absolutely disgusting to see how soooooo many gorgeous stately homes, Get torn down. Most of the time because they sit on a good amount of land and it gets bought up to build cookie-cutter houses for lower middle income. to me that is evil that we don’t preserve our own history. We tear it down.
The trophy room at Sagamore Hill is probably the most famous. I have not done a video on it yet, but I'll link you to the Library of Congress: www.loc.gov/resource/ppmsca.36258/ As far as studios go, these two are my personal favorites: Taliesin th-cam.com/video/L14ABnce8Z4/w-d-xo.html Olana th-cam.com/video/wOi6NRSdeIQ/w-d-xo.html
Many historic floor plans for residences allotted a ground floor space for either a study or a library. Herbert C. Chivers of St. Louis published hundreds of floor plans for catalogs. You can do a google search for “Artistic Homes” by Herbert C. Chivers and you should be able to easily find these catalogs available for free download.
No one should be excluded due to their religion. Too bad no one near by shared their beliefs but it really shouldn't matter. It's all about how you treat people.
Such a shame that so many of these wonderful places have been torn down and only pictures remain. What a beautiful place to live.
Sad story of discrimination. But Otto was eventually able to live out his dreams of being a musician (vicariously, at least) via his son Roger Wolfe Kahn, who led a successful jazz band throughout the 1920s. Roger began his musical career at age 16, and some have said that he was the very first teen idol in the world of popular music.
I LOVE the stairs! I can also see myself hanging out on the upper terrace with a good book on that swing!
We are just so blind in this country to destroy these beautiful homes in Europe they got houses 200 or 300 even 400 years old will never have that in this country because we tear everything down
Like, I don't even understand why they had to demolish Cedar Court for their Sanatorium project, while the building could have been incorporated into the whole... For example, the estate would become the office quarters, or something. Ground zero planning is just lazy and egocentric. It's also wasteful to ressources. A pure disgrace.
@@Polemodromewhile I don’t disagree, the issue often turns on the cost and practical utility of repurposing. Too often it is significantly cheaper to tear down and rebuild from scratch, which is a shame.
@@MB-nn3jw
If there was a hefty tax coming with the demolition license of a heritage building, these louts would think twice before bulldozing. There should also be extra incentives towards renovation, like the possibility to hire old architecture experts, paid by the government instead of the private contractor.
If it's a heritage site, it is of public interest to contribute actively in its protection. USA isn't a country with a small surface area. It's about 50 times the size of mine! You won't make me swallow that there is no way to make history coexist with economical interests.
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Thanks for sharing this history.
Another fantastic video. My former home (White Hill) was built on part of the land that belonged to Burrwood (Walter Jennings estate). It was Jennings, and his friends at the Cold Spring Harbor Beach Club, shunning of Kahn that caused him to truck in so much dirt that OHEKA would theoretically be high enough to look down his nose on the society that rejected him. He purchased the land next to the Beach Club so he could erect two gigantic oil tanks. It was his way of “flipping the bird” to Jennings and his ilk as Kahn’s oil barges would sail past their homes delivering oil next to the club.
The exterior outshines the interior ....
Mediterannean revival is truly a wonderful style of architecture, both elegant and rustic at the same time.
I love the living room
Such a beautiful home! I love the graceful stairway, the terraces, and the gardens.
Love the double villas , the staircase , and third floor
Another great home - Fav Rm? The Third Floor Terrace - Thx for sharing
Disgraceful that the Kahn's had to deal with anti-Semitism. I hope things went better for them on Long Island.
Beautiful house… ghastly wallpapers!
Hey from Memphis. I believe you would have found me on the terrace between the towers.
There should be no doubt that Cedar Court's interior was very grand, I found the exterior far more appealing. I think it was the chosen wallpapers that were just far too busy for me. 🤷
Any information on Otto's NYC residence out there? The Kahns, the Warburgs, the Guggenheims, and the Hirschorns were equally as important to the story of the Gilded Age as all those WASPS we hear about constantly. Would love more videos on their homes if you can sometime?
I’ll be covering more of their homes in the following months. Even after a few years of doing this, I’ve barely tipped the iceberg of incredible estates and the families who built them. Stay tuned!
@@ThisHouse You rock the Universe, Ken!
Cedar Court was magnificent. I would have loved to see the gardens and parkland. The wallpaper and matching fabric kind of freaks me out but the upstairs terrace looks wonderful.
Interesting video and too bad the idea of the side by side houses for the sisters had such an early and tragic end. The exterior of the house is lovely, as are the grounds and the overall setting.
STATING THAT THE WALL PAPER IS ALMOST BUSY IS ABSOLUTELY AN UNDERSTATEMENT 🤯
An interesting place. I'm wondering who picked the design, Otto or his father-in-law. Otto didn't marry Miss Wolff until the place was being built. The twin double tower idea is more than a little strange, and the exterior is more "Mediterranean blend" than Italian, French or Spanish. The interior shots all seem to be c. 1915. {(My guess from the light Elsie de Wolfe Influence - though she would have never put up all that wallpaper.) My guess is that the original interiors would have been total dark and heavy Renaissance style (and no flowery wallpaper). Many thanks for the as always excellent video - I'd never heard of this house before.
Thank you for the video!
Thanks for your video of this such beautiful historic culture mansion, they are very rare now.
I live in this neighborhood today and have always found this story fascinating...Our community pool sits under the hill that looks uo to where the mansions once stood. Now there are million dollar townhouses in its place. Every time I look up there, I think of the 2 sisters. There is a random Gingko tree that is still on property... I truly believe it was planted there during the period the estate built Japanese Gardens... Most of the land on top of the hills in present day is being developed asa Red Bulls Soccer training facility... Bulldozer after Bulldozer has erased all of the flora and history there..
I love the terrace!
koOL story about Otto Kahn!!
I would of loved these houses. It would cost soo much for upkeep. The whole house and garden i love ❤
Oheka was used in the TV show Royal Pains.
Bring back the live shows!!
I have a couple lined up for later this year, stay tuned!
It’s truly remarkable how many great homes and estates there were in the start of the 20th century. America was just about at it’s most creative and industrious phase in history. The envy of the world, the most diverse landscapes, natural resources. There was nothing we couldn’t accomplish. And now all we have is a handful of homes, forgotten factories abandoned rail lines that were once the heartbeat and bloodlines of a once great nation. Our time has past, the rest of the world has moved on and watches as we Americans fight and tear our nation apart. I myself can at least say I remember a time that it wasn’t so…
That may be dad's dream but I wouldn't want to share space that close with my sister
Bankers ...
First is the worst; second is the best
I’m sure that house was so bitter sweet for his wife, living there without her sister.
We could use them for both museum and mixed use space.
As much as I would appreciate my parents building a lovely home for my partner and me, I’m not sure I’d be thrilled about being isolated in the country with my sibling the only immediate neighbor; so close she could look in my windows. I probably would have asked if we could build on opposite ends of the grounds 😆
So sad about the family not being accepted because of their religion. I'm guessing with a name like Kahn they were Jewish. Anti semitism has always been a thing since the beginning of time.
Have you ever stopped to wonder why?
It’s absolutely disgusting to see how soooooo many gorgeous stately homes, Get torn down. Most of the time because they sit on a good amount of land and it gets bought up to build cookie-cutter houses for lower middle income. to me that is evil that we don’t preserve our own history. We tear it down.
I will never understand religious or Ethnic bigotry
Does anyone know of a historic home that had a cloakroom? Gillette castle had a very tiny one.
Third time is the charm...
Does anyone know of a historic home that had either a studio or trophy room? I am looking for some design inspiration.
The trophy room at Sagamore Hill is probably the most famous. I have not done a video on it yet, but I'll link you to the Library of Congress: www.loc.gov/resource/ppmsca.36258/
As far as studios go, these two are my personal favorites:
Taliesin
th-cam.com/video/L14ABnce8Z4/w-d-xo.html
Olana
th-cam.com/video/wOi6NRSdeIQ/w-d-xo.html
@@ThisHouse Thanks!
Many historic floor plans for residences allotted a ground floor space for either a study or a library. Herbert C. Chivers of St. Louis published hundreds of floor plans for catalogs. You can do a google search for “Artistic Homes” by Herbert C. Chivers and you should be able to easily find these catalogs available for free download.
No one should be excluded due to their religion. Too bad no one near by shared their beliefs but it really shouldn't matter. It's all about how you treat people.
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Sounds like a lonely family!!
Just another case of American prejudice.