@@fearz-4367 soo.. if you swing heavy light pause heavy light your hyper is near permanent since your hyper stays for few seconds even when soft feint. and theres also a bug that actually breaks the game and giving hito permanent hyper armor
And being a female fighter, we all know she actually gains protection by wearing a skimpy outfit, so she's actually wearing too much armor to be an effective fighter in fantasy land. Heck, if she pushed her breasts together, she'd be tankier than shugo!
Cretaal You killed me today, I fell off my chair wheezing and laughing hysterically, I had to go to the hospital because my head was bleeding because I hit my head on my desk. Screw you
From what i know, some women were trained to fight to be able to defend the household while the men were away to battle or for any other reason. Dont know of any source saying they participated in field battles or such but that doesnt mean much. Metatron gave you their name already so basics you could look up yourself.
Maybe the rust is left on to slowly eat away the solid inch of iron. I can't even imagine how heavy two heads that thick and large would be. Imagine trying to fight with a sledgehammer, then multiply that weight by 2 or 3. This could be in one of those "work out like a God" programs.
Youre supposed to train with a rusty axe because when the rust eats away the metal the weapon becomes lighter and easier to move, it's like doing drop sets
yeah still having trouble getting used to fight the new hero usually it goes they wind up a heavy so I'm like ah hah interrupting light wich dose not stop then and I get hit for a least double what I just did.
The word "Man" in english can be gender neutral too though, weirdly enough. When talking about mankind for example it refers to humans as a species, both men and women.
@@metatronyt Mankind is only really when talking about Man as a whole. When talking about individuals or groups "Man" is quite common. "Man Eater" for example. "Person Eater" isn't exactly natural language and "Mankind Eater" implies that the subject is freaking Galactus.
Aren't the Hitokiri basically former executioners? It would kinda make sense why they wear little to no armor, you wouldn't expect the death row inmate to fight back. Also I do like the Hitokiri gameplay mainly because it's focused on getting easy executions and in Breach/Dominion Hitokiri is a powerhouser
@Basaltar DiosDelBadco executions have a tactical use, especially in Breach. As a Defender a successful execution means a guaranteed -1 Attacker respawn ticket(no revive) and longer Respawn times. Hitokiri's Senbonzakura feat is also great in taking away big chunks of health from the commander/guardian and shortening the fights.
@Basaltar DiosDelBadco Hitokiri is great because, while the moveset isn't that complex, you can do a lot with very few. The mindgames you can play are loads
On the show forged in fire, they said the gladius was originally a spanish weapon but the romans were so impressed with the blades performance that they adopted the gladius permanently. If you could confirm or debunk this that would be awesome.
Maces don't need strength to be effective, they need speed. Blades make better use of leverage. And then if you can use the momentum and throw another attack while landing on a better position in one fluid motion, well, that can be useful.
My first impression on seeing this hero was that it felt so out of place. In my mind, Samurai are all about elegance and precision, and this new hero had very LITTLE of those qualities when it came to their weapon. That axe reminds me more of an executioner's axe than a battlefield weapon. However, I learned later that this character has a lot in common with the Lawbringer class for the Knight faction, particularly that both hunt down condemned criminals and bring them to justice.
1. I don't have any problems with blood or rust or dirt blemishing the weapons. I figure the pretext for some starting weapons is that it's a piece of used junk found on the battlefield or a tool often used for something else now being utilized for battle. With this in mind, it makes sense to have them looking worn/dirty. 2. She's holding the axe properly. Gripping the shaft with a hand nearing the head (wow, the double-entendre) has a couple of practical applications. One, it provides greater weight distribution and less energy expenditure and two, it makes it easier to move the axe quickly if you need to defend or re-position the blade. When striking, you simply choke your grip, giving you that range and a bit of extra leverage and control for your attack. If her hands were farther from the head, I'd say that would be an issue. I think the class is pretty cool. I haven't used it (I almost never play the game anymore), but I haven't seen much I don't like about it. I like the aesthetic and the personality behind the character and I think it's an interesting element brought into the game. I agree some of the battle animations are a little goofy and could be more realistic, but I haven't really been bugged by it when playing (at least not yet!).
I would argue that there's merit to how the Hitokiri holds their axe. It's basically so they can attack more quickly, with the tradeoff that they need to get up close and personal.
I don't know any Japanese, but "Hito Kiri" is referenced in my English translation of Lone Wolf and Cub, where it's supposed to mean "to cut a man with a sword" (Lone Wolf and Cub Omnibus, Vol 2, "Decapitator Asaemon", publisher Dark Horse Manga). The strange thing is that Asaemon has to have the term explained to him, even though cutting people's heads off with a sword is his occupation. As LW&C is supposed to be very accurate as far as the description of Japanese society under the Shogun goes (the story is completely fictional ), maybe the term wasn't in common usage?
IIRC, the reason they used the double-headed axe as stated in one of the Warrior's Den that went into the character, they chose to use two axe heads to make it more distinct from the Raider's dane axe. But yeah, was not particularly fond of her gear or the character and playstyle. But honestly, there's enough heroes a miss is fine :P I've got the Lady Warden and Lawbro for my main needs :D
Wood can be harder than you might think depending on the type... I had a Persimmon Tree in my backyard I had to cut down with a chainsaw and that thing was hard, it wasn’t even one of those super thick huge hardwoods but it still made the chainsaw struggle and took longer than you would think to cut all the way through it.
In the lore the samurai used to use armors with the finest steel but when the cataclysm happened they had to abandon their land and travel to end up in the myre so they use what their surroundings offer
Abour the axe swing bit yeah she twists but that is so she can keep momentum with the swing in order to keep her hit strong because trying to pick up the axe after the attack especially if it is heavy is a good move then trying to combo in also if you change direction when attack she doest twist she only teists when she does it in the same direction
Fun fact she’s the only samurai with metal armor on her arms and bicep. And she wears the LEAST amount, why they didn’t just give the entire faction metal armor still confuses me.
@@cedricschmidtke4287 true but, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between knights and samurai just by their helmets, weapons, and armor designs besides the type of material.
This design choice of wooden armor has confounded me since FH's launch. If you look closely at some of their helmets you'll notice a very metallic sheen...and what sense does it make to have steel weapons and not armor?
QUESTION I'm a bit confused about samuraï equipment, Metatron. Correct me if i'm wrong, but appart from the kanabo, medieval japanese seems to have used mostly piercing (yari, yumi) and slshing (naginata, nodachi) weapons. And now you say they didn't use axes. So, since we're talking of weapons which are poorly to moderately effective against armor, how prominent and effective were armors in the armies? I assume it was somehow good, as they (almost) didn't use shields and still has to deal with arrows.
Well they used axes as well since there are few accounts of such weapons: gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/09/masakari-samurais-war-axe.html?m=1 Other percussive weapons used by the Samurai: gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/04/kanabou-samurais-mace.html?m=1 gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/05/tsuruhashi-samurais-warpick.html?m=1 Also, some yari had some spearhead intended to be used as percussive weapons: pin.it/ifafw47ihyuwo2 pin.it/ouqqgsdmsbjnpv By the way, it is a wrong misconception that spears are not as good as maces against armor; they are much better! Your best option against an armored men is not to attack directly his armor, because it won't hurt him as much especially when rigid protection is involved (like Japanese armor). Swinging a heavy axe or a mace is not ideal for long periods and on top of that you aren't going to deal too much damage to incapacitate a men. Your best option is to go for the weakspot, a bleeding wound is way more effective than a mild concussion, and you just need one hit. Spears are nimble, they can be used to aim for the gaps, entangle your enemy's weapon if they are fitted with parrying hooks (as many Japanese spears were) and the shaft could be used to wrestle and knock down your enemy. More over, another good solution is to wrestle him to the ground with a dagger. But warfare is not about a single duel between armored men; it's about formations and tactics. In this regard, a pike block, a squad of archers or of firearms and cavalry equipped with spear is going to deal extremely well against armored foes. Within this context, maces or normal axes aren't well suited as much as polearms. Btw to answer your original question, it's complicated but on average the Samurai were always heavily armored at least from the 13th century onward and from the 14th century full body coverage was very common. By the 16th century, even the Ashigaru had a good amount of body coverage as well. Also, shields saw some usage in Japan: gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/12/tate-tedate-japanese-shields.html?m=1
By the period of the big names of the Sengoku Jidai, bow would have been phased out on the Battlefield by matchlocks. I remember chronicers being surprised by a lord who armed himself with a bow during the battle of Sekigahara
i hope you do a video like this for the viking with the 50 kilogram hammer, i mean we haven't seen the hero in game yet, but in the picture that hammer looks huge
The axe grip I actually think it's acurate, if you grab it close to the head it's easier and faster to manipulate, plus, it's easier to block with that grip. If you look closely she only uses the axe this way guarding and with the lights/fast attacks, when she does a heavy/slow attack she grips it differently to use more the weight and the range. So yeah, I think it's a proper grip if you only have an axe to cover/attack, what do you think?
It's the pirouetting part that's problematic. You've a damn long & heavy weapon & would've done massive damage if you just hold the end & swing it hard, yet you chose to grip it near the blade & spin around. you're sacrificing both reach, cutting power & balance just to look flashy, which is stupid.
Reminds me a bit of a bardiche. Also that axe would be great against armour. Sure the size of the metal on the end would make it unwieldy but if you aligned the edge that's a lot of force going in one place.
Well from my research of the meiji restoration era the name hittokirri refers to a few very specific killers of shogunate supporters or to be more precise, killers of enemies of Takechi Zuisan though I am very rusty.
Yes but a battle axe in real life is never that heavy as much as the axe in that game, zweihänder is not heavy enough to use a spinning attack, spinning leaves you vulnerable, as you spin, you face your back to the enemy, giving the enemy enough time to go for a strike, or a stab, or anything to incapacitate you
True, but even dane axes aren't exactly light either. So, continuous swings make sense to better control the momentum. Spinning attacks are, of course, much more situational and risky, but shouldn't be completely dismissed. Especially in a game were diversity of moves is desirable. However, I do agree with Metatron that the fighting style doesn't look great.
I think the axe is supposed to be really freakin heavy. So the grip makes sense for easier movement of the weapon. And the spins are probably for momentum in the strike.
I just got into this channel so I don’t know if this character has been discussed, but I’d have to say my main has been, and probably will be for a long time, the Raider, some say he’s cheap or over powered but I say you just gotta know how to use him AND know how to beat him
Great video as usual Metatron! I would also like to request a video of you talking about the armors and weapons(or the units) in Total War: Three Kingdoms.
I'm sure Ubisoft took inspiration from Japanese paintings before, and I know the axes in those look grossly oversized, even bigger than Hito's axe. While they only have one head traditionally, it's not out of the question to think someone used a double headed axe in Feudal Japan, just like it's not out of the question that Samurai could have dual wielded Katana.
But... don't MOST of the characters in For Honor not stand a chance against the Knight characters? Also, I consider the Hitokiri a cheap character. I play on console, so the fact that she can heavy spam with alternating parry windows is just frustrating to deal with compared to literally anyone else except Shugoki. Even then, Shugoki telegraphs pretty well. Hitokiri's first charge up that is blockable isn't well telegraphed.
@@hazardous0887 Shaman can heal via cannibalism, and Wu-Lin monk can teleport. Its funny European culture actually has alot of "combat magic mythology" i mean we have: The Black Knight, Arthur's Sword, Merlin, The Holy Hand Grenade, Neptunes Trident, Zeus' Bolt, and the Holy Lance.
realistically i don't think she would need the armor since she's considered an executioner and not a warrior, meaning she wouldn't really go into battle often. correct me if im wrong haha
Ya'll know shit gets scary when players decide to fuse the Hitokiri and Kensei into the horrifying HitoKensei when they do nothing but dodge and feint.
If I had the game I would love to play the character. While, I agree her axe is WAYYY to big I honestly have to say I love it. She in my head is Benkei meets crazed murder hobo woman. I weirdly am on board with it.
Also, in terms of axes in ancient/medieval Japanese military history, the only one that I know about is the Ono (thanks to Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice), and that axe the Hitokiri/Sakura is using looks FAR too big to be an Ono.
'Ono' simple means 'axe' in Japanese. unlike the katana, ono's not something standardized. so yes, while ridiculously rare, there're actually ono that are really big.
Io avrei due note. La prima è che le asce del mio berserk sono letteralmente due pezzi di ferro arrugginiti quindi sicuramente Sakura tratta la sua ascia molto meglio XD. Il secondo appunto è che la testa della sua ascia è il doppio di quella del razziatore.
also do you think if for honor ever adds a good enough amount for re evaluation can you do a redo of the who is the strongest for honor character in real life
Metatron, there is this TH-cam channel called The History Guy and he just published a video on Roman helmets and Rome as a whole. It might be something you would like to check out.
Maybe she holds the handle close to the axe because of the oversized axe head being overweight (of course an axe head that large, especially so thick, would still be too heavy, and would have to be much smaller than depicted, but the fighting style, the way she holds the weapon, might still imply it has something of an overweight axe head (just not as impossibly so, as depicted in the model).
I think the biggest thing that bugs me about For Honor in general is how wonky some of the weapons look, and how they’re almost all overly huge. A prime example is the Highlander and his Scottish Longsword. The thing isn’t just big, it’s like a Zweihander got some extra layers of steel added. The naming of some of the weapons bugs me too. Like Claymore. I don’t see a basket on that sword Ubi.
To Metatron and fellow noble ones,i politely request suport for more videos on folklore creatures like the video on the consequence of undead existance on the middle ages.More on the subject of the undead would the interesting from all over Europe or all our mythological creatures from Europe how society works and fights when X creature is a foot. I wish to you and all fellow audient well with respect by Hera Adrian Marian from Romania.A good day to us all.
Who needs armor when you have hyper armor in EVERY SINGLE MOVE!!!
Hito only has HA on her 1st heavy and light finisher.
@@fearz-4367 soo.. if you swing heavy light pause heavy light your hyper is near permanent since your hyper stays for few seconds even when soft feint. and theres also a bug that actually breaks the game and giving hito permanent hyper armor
NOT ANYMORE :(
Pro tip, game devs: If your axe resemble an electrig guitar more than an axe... Then your axe is too big.
*"if your axe resembles an Axe more than an axe" ftfy
theres no such thing as an axe thats too big
@@jameshayes9322 youre wrong
It’s a History buff my dude, it is not meant to be accurate
You’ve never heard of the term shredding with your axe? 😂🎸
What's next? A knight with an M16? Oh wait... TABS
No the Knight with RPG and laser canon.
@@UsmanSiddiq1 sounds like medieval doom slayer
This one's Des, and the other's Troy. Apart, they aren't much, but together they destroy
@Max Montana Know no fear
That’s Anders Brevik
The armour is not a issue, remember that in fiction armour is made out of butter anyway
And being a female fighter, we all know she actually gains protection by wearing a skimpy outfit, so she's actually wearing too much armor to be an effective fighter in fantasy land. Heck, if she pushed her breasts together, she'd be tankier than shugo!
Cretaal You killed me today, I fell off my chair wheezing and laughing hysterically, I had to go to the hospital because my head was bleeding because I hit my head on my desk. Screw you
Especially in For Honor where you can take down a knight in full steel plate with like 3 swings from a gladius xD
Lawbringer rn
This is the dwarf's axe! Baruk Kazaaaad !!!
ArmorySmith Workshop Kazad al menu
with arrows of Chaos.
"yamabushi" thank you so much. i've been trying to remember that word for five years now
Ive noticed alot of the low tier gear is supposed to look rusty and worn
Can you talk about samurai women in the next video?
I seriously need the knowledge
From what i know, some women were trained to fight to be able to defend the household while the men were away to battle or for any other reason. Dont know of any source saying they participated in field battles or such but that doesnt mean much.
Metatron gave you their name already so basics you could look up yourself.
I would love to see him covering those too!
Women could never be samurai. Sex gender roles would not allow them to do much outside the box for most of human history.
@@MyRkAcc I hope your not just referencing Princess Monanoke? Lol.
just look for Ona Bugeisha, and naginata if you want something close enough to samurai girl.
"I am not sure if it -Wood Work- " :DDD
Maybe the rust is left on to slowly eat away the solid inch of iron. I can't even imagine how heavy two heads that thick and large would be. Imagine trying to fight with a sledgehammer, then multiply that weight by 2 or 3. This could be in one of those "work out like a God" programs.
Youre supposed to train with a rusty axe because when the rust eats away the metal the weapon becomes lighter and easier to move, it's like doing drop sets
Imagine knights with swords made of blue and green energy that use some telekinetic powers!
Oh wait...
imagine if the good guys used blue and green and the bad ones used red energy!
I’m ashamed how long it took me to get this
She doesn’t really need armor because she can trade for days
you dont need real armor when you have hyper armor
yeah still having trouble getting used to fight the new hero usually it goes they wind up a heavy so I'm like ah hah interrupting light wich dose not stop then and I get hit for a least double what I just did.
Some of her armor pieces have wearing armor under her clothes. It's more prominent through the male one (Yato)
I like how she has more hyper armor than lawbringer
That axe is SUPER T H I C C
Gunbai Ancient Japanese Warfare has a good article about japanese axes.
Btw,the moment i saw Hitokiri,my mind jumped to "Hitokiri,Kozure Okami".
The word "Man" in english can be gender neutral too though, weirdly enough.
When talking about mankind for example it refers to humans as a species, both men and women.
Yes I did mention that in written form on the video :)
@@metatronyt Mankind is only really when talking about Man as a whole. When talking about individuals or groups "Man" is quite common. "Man Eater" for example. "Person Eater" isn't exactly natural language and "Mankind Eater" implies that the subject is freaking Galactus.
What is a man?! A miserable pile of secrets!
But enough talk! Have at you!
Aren't the Hitokiri basically former executioners? It would kinda make sense why they wear little to no armor, you wouldn't expect the death row inmate to fight back.
Also I do like the Hitokiri gameplay mainly because it's focused on getting easy executions and in Breach/Dominion Hitokiri is a powerhouser
@Basaltar DiosDelBadco executions have a tactical use, especially in Breach. As a Defender a successful execution means a guaranteed -1 Attacker respawn ticket(no revive) and longer Respawn times. Hitokiri's Senbonzakura feat is also great in taking away big chunks of health from the commander/guardian and shortening the fights.
@Basaltar DiosDelBadco Hitokiri is great because, while the moveset isn't that complex, you can do a lot with very few. The mindgames you can play are loads
They're letting the axe rust cause it's so thick and want to slowly shave off 15 kilos lol
That double-bitted axe (and the way she uses it) are uuuuuuuuuugLY.
On the show forged in fire, they said the gladius was originally a spanish weapon but the romans were so impressed with the blades performance that they adopted the gladius permanently. If you could confirm or debunk this that would be awesome.
I thought it was based on the Celtic swords? Not sure, trying to learn about it all myself. I could very well be wrong lol
Hello
Could you analyze how realistic the siege of Tourelles is from the movie the Messenger?
i love the new way you make your videos Metatron, very good
Glad to see For Honor is still on your radar! :D
Unfortunately not for Vortiger
I’m so happy you made this video!!!!! I’m so excited!!!!
I absolutely ADORE the new lighting! 👏👏👏
Always been waiting for this video
Maces don't need strength to be effective, they need speed. Blades make better use of leverage. And then if you can use the momentum and throw another attack while landing on a better position in one fluid motion, well, that can be useful.
Thank you for this video excellent job!
My first impression on seeing this hero was that it felt so out of place. In my mind, Samurai are all about elegance and precision, and this new hero had very LITTLE of those qualities when it came to their weapon. That axe reminds me more of an executioner's axe than a battlefield weapon. However, I learned later that this character has a lot in common with the Lawbringer class for the Knight faction, particularly that both hunt down condemned criminals and bring them to justice.
I vary much like your description of the samurai as precise and elegant. Out of curiousity how would you describe the knights and Vikings?
1. I don't have any problems with blood or rust or dirt blemishing the weapons. I figure the pretext for some starting weapons is that it's a piece of used junk found on the battlefield or a tool often used for something else now being utilized for battle. With this in mind, it makes sense to have them looking worn/dirty.
2. She's holding the axe properly. Gripping the shaft with a hand nearing the head (wow, the double-entendre) has a couple of practical applications. One, it provides greater weight distribution and less energy expenditure and two, it makes it easier to move the axe quickly if you need to defend or re-position the blade. When striking, you simply choke your grip, giving you that range and a bit of extra leverage and control for your attack. If her hands were farther from the head, I'd say that would be an issue.
I think the class is pretty cool. I haven't used it (I almost never play the game anymore), but I haven't seen much I don't like about it. I like the aesthetic and the personality behind the character and I think it's an interesting element brought into the game. I agree some of the battle animations are a little goofy and could be more realistic, but I haven't really been bugged by it when playing (at least not yet!).
I’ve been waiting for this video since she dropped
I would argue that there's merit to how the Hitokiri holds their axe. It's basically so they can attack more quickly, with the tradeoff that they need to get up close and personal.
I don't know any Japanese, but "Hito Kiri" is referenced in my English translation of Lone Wolf and Cub, where it's supposed to mean "to cut a man with a sword" (Lone Wolf and Cub Omnibus, Vol 2, "Decapitator Asaemon", publisher Dark Horse Manga). The strange thing is that Asaemon has to have the term explained to him, even though cutting people's heads off with a sword is his occupation. As LW&C is supposed to be very accurate as far as the description of Japanese society under the Shogun goes (the story is completely fictional ), maybe the term wasn't in common usage?
IIRC, the reason they used the double-headed axe as stated in one of the Warrior's Den that went into the character, they chose to use two axe heads to make it more distinct from the Raider's dane axe.
But yeah, was not particularly fond of her gear or the character and playstyle. But honestly, there's enough heroes a miss is fine :P I've got the Lady Warden and Lawbro for my main needs :D
Wood can be harder than you might think depending on the type... I had a Persimmon Tree in my backyard I had to cut down with a chainsaw and that thing was hard, it wasn’t even one of those super thick huge hardwoods but it still made the chainsaw struggle and took longer than you would think to cut all the way through it.
As soon as i heard her ASMRing, i knew she was going to be my fave.
"Hssh hhassssh huhhhhshhh hessshh hecssssseh hhhhhhsesh eat a dick" -Sakura, the hitokiri
You pronounce Japanese words better than a lot of other Westerners. I'm so happy!!!
@@カエル厶·ステラエ He's a was a Japanese language teacher (I'm not sure if he's still teaching) and he lived in Japan for a long time.
I do speak Japanese, I teach It for living (still now) :)
@@metatronyt OMG you responded me!!!
No problem pal, thanks for watching arigato
@@metatronyt How many languages do you speak? Just curious.
Always down for a FH analysis
I think some of the base armor changes should be a bit more considered in regards to her defensive measures.
In the lore the samurai used to use armors with the finest steel but when the cataclysm happened they had to abandon their land and travel to end up in the myre so they use what their surroundings offer
Abour the axe swing bit yeah she twists but that is so she can keep momentum with the swing in order to keep her hit strong because trying to pick up the axe after the attack especially if it is heavy is a good move then trying to combo in also if you change direction when attack she doest twist she only teists when she does it in the same direction
Fun fact she’s the only samurai with metal armor on her arms and bicep. And she wears the LEAST amount, why they didn’t just give the entire faction metal armor still confuses me.
because STYLE
in game design you want your characters to be distinct from each other, and factions even moreso
The character is mentally insane..
@@cedricschmidtke4287 true but, it's pretty easy to tell the difference between knights and samurai just by their helmets, weapons, and armor designs besides the type of material.
This design choice of wooden armor has confounded me since FH's launch. If you look closely at some of their helmets you'll notice a very metallic sheen...and what sense does it make to have steel weapons and not armor?
I really liked the more polished editing on this video.
QUESTION
I'm a bit confused about samuraï equipment, Metatron.
Correct me if i'm wrong, but appart from the kanabo, medieval japanese seems to have used mostly piercing (yari, yumi) and slshing (naginata, nodachi) weapons. And now you say they didn't use axes. So, since we're talking of weapons which are poorly to moderately effective against armor, how prominent and effective were armors in the armies?
I assume it was somehow good, as they (almost) didn't use shields and still has to deal with arrows.
Well they used axes as well since there are few accounts of such weapons:
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/09/masakari-samurais-war-axe.html?m=1
Other percussive weapons used by the Samurai:
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/04/kanabou-samurais-mace.html?m=1
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/05/tsuruhashi-samurais-warpick.html?m=1
Also, some yari had some spearhead intended to be used as percussive weapons:
pin.it/ifafw47ihyuwo2
pin.it/ouqqgsdmsbjnpv
By the way, it is a wrong misconception that spears are not as good as maces against armor; they are much better! Your best option against an armored men is not to attack directly his armor, because it won't hurt him as much especially when rigid protection is involved (like Japanese armor). Swinging a heavy axe or a mace is not ideal for long periods and on top of that you aren't going to deal too much damage to incapacitate a men.
Your best option is to go for the weakspot, a bleeding wound is way more effective than a mild concussion, and you just need one hit. Spears are nimble, they can be used to aim for the gaps, entangle your enemy's weapon if they are fitted with parrying hooks (as many Japanese spears were) and the shaft could be used to wrestle and knock down your enemy.
More over, another good solution is to wrestle him to the ground with a dagger.
But warfare is not about a single duel between armored men; it's about formations and tactics. In this regard, a pike block, a squad of archers or of firearms and cavalry equipped with spear is going to deal extremely well against armored foes.
Within this context, maces or normal axes aren't well suited as much as polearms.
Btw to answer your original question, it's complicated but on average the Samurai were always heavily armored at least from the 13th century onward and from the 14th century full body coverage was very common.
By the 16th century, even the Ashigaru had a good amount of body coverage as well.
Also, shields saw some usage in Japan:
gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2017/12/tate-tedate-japanese-shields.html?m=1
By the period of the big names of the Sengoku Jidai, bow would have been phased out on the Battlefield by matchlocks. I remember chronicers being surprised by a lord who armed himself with a bow during the battle of Sekigahara
Your content is amazing
Awesome video as always! ^w^
i hope you do a video like this for the viking with the 50 kilogram hammer, i mean we haven't seen the hero in game yet, but in the picture that hammer looks huge
Good honest review
The THICKNESS, Metatron
Great video man
Would love one of these for my Nobushi
The axe grip I actually think it's acurate, if you grab it close to the head it's easier and faster to manipulate, plus, it's easier to block with that grip.
If you look closely she only uses the axe this way guarding and with the lights/fast attacks, when she does a heavy/slow attack she grips it differently to use more the weight and the range.
So yeah, I think it's a proper grip if you only have an axe to cover/attack, what do you think?
It's the pirouetting part that's problematic. You've a damn long & heavy weapon & would've done massive damage if you just hold the end & swing it hard, yet you chose to grip it near the blade & spin around. you're sacrificing both reach, cutting power & balance just to look flashy, which is stupid.
Reminds me a bit of a bardiche. Also that axe would be great against armour. Sure the size of the metal on the end would make it unwieldy but if you aligned the edge that's a lot of force going in one place.
Good video my friend. Good linguistics too!
I’m pretty sure even the devs said the axe was unrealistic but when with a double bit head for artistic freedom with weapon sets
Well from my research of the meiji restoration era the name hittokirri refers to a few very specific killers of shogunate supporters or to be more precise, killers of enemies of Takechi Zuisan though I am very rusty.
Considering that axe is very top-/ heavy and has a lot of momentum, spinning or continuous swinging seems plausible. Just look at Zweihänder.
Yes but a battle axe in real life is never that heavy as much as the axe in that game, zweihänder is not heavy enough to use a spinning attack, spinning leaves you vulnerable, as you spin, you face your back to the enemy, giving the enemy enough time to go for a strike, or a stab, or anything to incapacitate you
True, but even dane axes aren't exactly light either. So, continuous swings make sense to better control the momentum. Spinning attacks are, of course, much more situational and risky, but shouldn't be completely dismissed. Especially in a game were diversity of moves is desirable. However, I do agree with Metatron that the fighting style doesn't look great.
I look forward when you do the new viking hero
More for honor please. About the jormungundr?
I think the axe is supposed to be really freakin heavy. So the grip makes sense for easier movement of the weapon. And the spins are probably for momentum in the strike.
There is an armor variant wich covers really well her body and has good amount of armor
I just got into this channel so I don’t know if this character has been discussed, but I’d have to say my main has been, and probably will be for a long time, the Raider, some say he’s cheap or over powered but I say you just gotta know how to use him AND know how to beat him
Can you do a video on how historically accurate is MORDHAU?
He already did it some time ago if I remember correctly
i just learnt that the ono fighting axe existed
also the te ono wood chopping axes
but i would have prefered a samurai or ashigaru with a war pick
I would argue that armour isn’t needed since the Hitokiri are meant to be executioners, so would probably have a more ceremonial role.
I have a question how many years would a sword last if it’s maintained a couple hundred years or couple thousand years ?
Hitokiri is a fun hero I do play hitokiri using Samurai armor
Great video as usual Metatron! I would also like to request a video of you talking about the armors and weapons(or the units) in Total War: Three Kingdoms.
0:55 since there is no historical record of Shinobi who were not Samurai and there's record of female Shinobi, were they the female samurai as well?
U said it’s heavy so I think the grip is good absorbs some of the weight still a little unrealistic but it helps
Do a video over the shugoki! Or Centurion!
I'm sure Ubisoft took inspiration from Japanese paintings before, and I know the axes in those look grossly oversized, even bigger than Hito's axe. While they only have one head traditionally, it's not out of the question to think someone used a double headed axe in Feudal Japan, just like it's not out of the question that Samurai could have dual wielded Katana.
This was really interesting!
But... don't MOST of the characters in For Honor not stand a chance against the Knight characters?
Also, I consider the Hitokiri a cheap character. I play on console, so the fact that she can heavy spam with alternating parry windows is just frustrating to deal with compared to literally anyone else except Shugoki. Even then, Shugoki telegraphs pretty well. Hitokiri's first charge up that is blockable isn't well telegraphed.
What? You want a FEMALE character that isn't OP and can be defeated? Dinosaur! This is 2019! REEEEEEEEEEEE
by the way... Why only knights
don't have magic-y stuff in this game? I thought the Vortiger would have, but he's just very edgy.
One word: steteotypes
What do you mean by magic stuff? I kinda get what you mean with Sakura but what magic do the Vikings and Wu-Lin wield?
@@hazardous0887 Shaman can heal via cannibalism, and Wu-Lin monk can teleport. Its funny European culture actually has alot of "combat magic mythology" i mean we have: The Black Knight, Arthur's Sword, Merlin, The Holy Hand Grenade, Neptunes Trident, Zeus' Bolt, and the Holy Lance.
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...... are you suggesting that coconuts migrate?
@@hazardous0887 Not at all, they can be carried.
She is dangerously close to becoming my new main over conc
realistically i don't think she would need the armor since she's considered an executioner and not a warrior, meaning she wouldn't really go into battle often. correct me if im wrong haha
Honestly, a big woman with a battle axe is far from what I imagine when I hear the word "Hitokiri".
CONDOTTIERI VIDEO I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR MONTHS
Ya'll know shit gets scary when players decide to fuse the Hitokiri and Kensei into the horrifying HitoKensei when they do nothing but dodge and feint.
If I had the game I would love to play the character. While, I agree her axe is WAYYY to big I honestly have to say I love it. She in my head is Benkei meets crazed murder hobo woman. I weirdly am on board with it.
Also, in terms of axes in ancient/medieval Japanese military history, the only one that I know about is the Ono (thanks to Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice), and that axe the Hitokiri/Sakura is using looks FAR too big to be an Ono.
'Ono' simple means 'axe' in Japanese. unlike the katana, ono's not something standardized. so yes, while ridiculously rare, there're actually ono that are really big.
The Japanese Ono. A great weapon indeed
So, she's an insane dark Yamabushi. Actually makes her seem more awesome.
But with the thicknes of the axe. i dont think it getting thiner is a problem
Io avrei due note. La prima è che le asce del mio berserk sono letteralmente due pezzi di ferro arrugginiti quindi sicuramente Sakura tratta la sua ascia molto meglio XD. Il secondo appunto è che la testa della sua ascia è il doppio di quella del razziatore.
also do you think if for honor ever adds a good enough amount for re evaluation can you do a redo of the who is the strongest for honor character in real life
Metatron, there is this TH-cam channel called The History Guy and he just published a video on Roman helmets and Rome as a whole. It might be something you would like to check out.
Maybe she holds the handle close to the axe because of the oversized axe head being overweight (of course an axe head that large, especially so thick, would still be too heavy, and would have to be much smaller than depicted, but the fighting style, the way she holds the weapon, might still imply it has something of an overweight axe head (just not as impossibly so, as depicted in the model).
Metatron: 1:18
the Vikings watching this video: i see nothing wrong with this
I think the biggest thing that bugs me about For Honor in general is how wonky some of the weapons look, and how they’re almost all overly huge. A prime example is the Highlander and his Scottish Longsword. The thing isn’t just big, it’s like a Zweihander got some extra layers of steel added. The naming of some of the weapons bugs me too. Like Claymore. I don’t see a basket on that sword Ubi.
I wonder what will they show on e3
Check out the armour of the sacred order in raid shadow legends
Plz, can u do this tipe of video but with for example Jormundgandr?
The upcoming Nioh 2 lets you dual-wield axes.
She's a slasher movie villain, Japanese Jason Vorhees.
Onna bugeisha had the same status as samurai?
To Metatron and fellow noble ones,i politely request suport for more videos on folklore creatures like the video on the consequence of undead existance on the middle ages.More on the subject of the undead would the interesting from all over Europe or all our mythological creatures from Europe how society works and fights when X creature is a foot. I wish to you and all fellow audient well with respect by Hera Adrian Marian from Romania.A good day to us all.
Is it just me, or does she handle the axe more like a quarterstaff?
Does anybody knows the title of the ending music? Sounds very epic.
I think it's just a copyright-free soundtrack
I love that she is a yamabushi, but find the choices made to be odd