Razen's effect chaining to TTT was a legal activation because of how the application of effects work. The only thing Razen can't do in that is use his on-summon effect and reveal effect in the same chain. The wording on Jiaolong is "If you reveal a card(s) in your hand to activate a "Vanquish Soul" card or effect...". The card you activate doesn't have to be on the field in any way to receive this effect.
This is wrong, since he was still under the protection of snow devil , he can’t use his on protection. It’s similar to trying to imperm a monster that’s under skill drain. Good catch by judge honestly
@@alfred112009 It weird because it's 2 different applications of the same style. Both are lingering applications however Razens applies to himself while Snow Devil applies to all names you control. It's not treated the same as the Negated State or marked for destruction.
Yes it did stole me the game. I immediatly went to the main stage and asked the other head judge, which confirmed that I can legally activate Razen's effect. The game was not loosable. Thanks konami :) Marvin Kammerer
@@Kopox123 You had the game won from that position, right? Could you use Caesar to pop a monster? That judge's decision is disgraceful. Still really well played, mate
when you activated razen I think samir panicked from his face, he also knew that it was possible as an effect. During the 15 minutes when the judges were not judging, did you try to ask for an appeal to headjudge?@@Kopox123
@@jonanderirureta8331 Yes, I had every attribute, more then once. Also Borger to draw. I think Samir then has the option, to push through a Turbulence if he forces caesar with Apo or Accesscode threat, which is never enough for my follow up. And he has to use all his cards. Thank you.
The reason why Razen can't activate the reveal effect on TTT's activation is that the effect of Snow Devil is already appliying, Razen is already protected so it cannot activate its effect to apply the same protection again
Razen's effect chaining to TTT was a legal activation because of how the application of effects work. The only thing Razen can't do in that is use his on-summon effect and reveal effect in the same chain. The wording on Jiaolong is "If you reveal a card(s) in your hand to activate a "Vanquish Soul" card or effect...". The card you activate doesn't have to be on the field in any way to receive this effect.
This is wrong, since he was still under the protection of snow devil , he can’t use his on protection. It’s similar to trying to imperm a monster that’s under skill drain. Good catch by judge honestly
@@alfred112009 It weird because it's 2 different applications of the same style. Both are lingering applications however Razens applies to himself while Snow Devil applies to all names you control. It's not treated the same as the Negated State or marked for destruction.
In Round 2 how did the Rescue Ace player Summoned Baronne if Shifter and Air Lifter aren't tuners...
Some Infernoble cards have effects that can change monsters to Tuners. Ricciardetto's banish from GY effect summons a FIRE Warrior as a tuner.
Dude round 10 was intense! I couldnt believe razen chained to TTT!
Razen can do it the effect, steal game
that ruling from the judges was bad. stole the game from him.
Yes it did stole me the game. I immediatly went to the main stage and asked the other head judge, which confirmed that I can legally activate Razen's effect. The game was not loosable.
Thanks konami :)
Marvin Kammerer
@@Kopox123 You had the game won from that position, right? Could you use Caesar to pop a monster? That judge's decision is disgraceful. Still really well played, mate
when you activated razen I think samir panicked from his face, he also knew that it was possible as an effect. During the 15 minutes when the judges were not judging, did you try to ask for an appeal to headjudge?@@Kopox123
@@jonanderirureta8331 Yes, I had every attribute, more then once. Also Borger to draw.
I think Samir then has the option, to push through a Turbulence if he forces caesar with Apo or Accesscode threat, which is never enough for my follow up. And he has to use all his cards.
Thank you.
ayooo he predicted joshua‘s win
The reason why Razen can't activate the reveal effect on TTT's activation is that the effect of Snow Devil is already appliying, Razen is already protected so it cannot activate its effect to apply the same protection again
why there was a pause after typhon summon
Because they had to give me a slowplay warning for some reason :)
Marvin Kammerer
At that point of the game was so unecessary
Truly one of the judge calls I've ever seen 😑
imagine having such little personality you just quote memes
Samir couldn’t use the fenrir effect on rock of the vanquisher as he has to target raizen
for attacks only
samir on game 1 can't use the 2 effect of original sinful spoils, its one effect per turn
But he only used 1 effect. On the field, pantera destroyed Silful before activated. He only used the effect of the grave
oh mb i was eating at the same time might have missed it@@lucaswanderleydurcocastela8537
@@lucaswanderleydurcocastela8537 true