I'm not a Fan of Chapter 5. 1. OP items, in any season, can be fun to use; and there are a bunch of people who find 'Fun' in using just OP items to get a Win. They are casual and most likely play in groups. Let's call this *Group A* of the Community. 2. However, there are a bunch of people too who have 'Fun' when having strategies, positioning and overcoming obstacles, by skill alone. They tend to play in Solos or Duos; may even compete in FNCS. This is *Group B* . Group A are more casual players; and most likely play in groups and don't take the meta too seriously. And if they do, they CHOOSE to use OP items then make an excuse for those who complain to adapt and 'Get Better'. Group B are people who are really Competitive Players; who want to push the Meta and be the Best there is with what the Game itself offers. They are used to winning with good aim that they have been practicing for. They train to have better building mechanics over others because they have practiced hours upon hours to hone-in their skills. They want the game to be more BALANCED because to them, winning with skill and strategy is more fun then using OP items to win. Less excitement and more strategic play. Group A and Group B are gonna be completely divided this season; but I think this Whole *Chapter* has made the two Groups much more apparent in the Fortnite community. Chapter 5 has major problems in how they shaped the Meta for all 3 (and 4th) Seasons. - *Medallions* : These Medallions become a must-have and forces people to go after them. Now, in Ch.5 S1, the medallions were not that OP by themselves but were spread all about the map. This gave players the freedom to go anywhere on the Map, without that being considered of 'throwing the Game'; due to not striving for medallions or having to go to certain locations to get them. They have the option to go get a medallion; but it wasn't required to land at these certain parts of the Map. That sounds Great 👍. Now, if you got all 5 Medallions, then it showed you were skilled to get them in the lobby. Group A would see the usefulness of one Medallion as 'Weak/No fun'; while Group B would say it's 'Fair/Not a Must-Have'. But if all are acquired, then the community would say 'That's Fair, they earned it'. In Ch.5 S2, there are 4 Medallions, less than before, but they give you powers that can make you feel/play OP compared to others in the lobby. The locations of these Medallions are ONLY AT 4 POIs; which limits players to having to go near or at these POIs to get the Medallions. Group A is fine with the powers and makes them excited to utilize them, while Group B sees which of the Medallions have the best usage in combat and strategizes around that. The Cerberus Medallion was by far the Best Power that season. The worst was that there was no REAL Strategy around the Cerberus Medallion other than touching water at those POIs (which were only at 2 POIs). Instead of touching Grass, Group B touched Water, every game, in order to compete with others who did the same. If not, then technically you were choosing not to have the power and were technically throwing. Strategically, Medallions determine where people land at; and if you aren't landing there, then you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage. This technically limits the freedom to land at different POIs, since there's not much strategies to land off-course and you can't obtain something that's 'Fun and OP'. - *Bullet Drop* : Guns have projectile speed and fundamentally changes how we use guns after 6 years of Fortnite. The thing is, the guns are SOLELY DEPENDENT ON MODIFICATIONS. Originally, in all other Chapters, you see a gun on the ground you like and you... Pick it up. That's it; just aim and shoot. Your skill on how you use the gun determines everything. Hitscan really showed with good aim and timing, you deserve the win. The guns in Chapter 5, however, are solely reliant on modifications due to them having bullet drop. For example, the Burst SMG is a great gun; but its even better if it has Red Light modifications to lower its recoil and bullet drop, hip-fire easier, and an added reticle to aim better with it. And here's the problem... You need Modifications; for both Power and Strategy. Period. Group A sees modifications as: 'Wow! I get to modify my gun the way I want it? Sweet! I feel OP, empowered, and I have freedom to express myself on a gun I picked up.' Group B are like: 'Alright... Got a Reaper Sniper Rifle... It's a Must for potential one-shots... But it doesn't have the reticle I need in order to shoot comfortably... And the bullet drop doesn't help... I have no choice but to wait till the 3rd Storm phase and then compete in Vaults that slowly open... Against other players who are striving to do the same...' ... Every game. Heck, even the Vaults open up in Storm and that's just absurd. But regardless, everyone becomes reliant on Modifications. Unless you get a Mythic that has no recoil, bigger projectile size, great damage that multiplies, and fast reload... Waterbending. Now at the time, there was no real reason to have Chapter 5 guns if Waterbending was overall better. Previously, in other Chapters, if you picked up a gun, it was straight forward; the only thing random was what gun was randomly placed on the ground and it's rarity. But now, if you pick up a gun, you are relying on even its modifications... Which also limits how you shoot with THAT gun because of Bullet Drop off... And then you have to Wait till a Vault opens up... To fight against others who also have the same predicament as you or are more lucky to have found a gun with better modifications than you... So, what's the solution in Chapter 5? ... Land at POIs that offer: 1. The Medallion which Gives you Power 2. A Mythic Gun with Better Modifications ... Which gives more reason, Strategically and Casually, to go for POIs that offer these things... And if you don't land where that stuff is available at, then you are technically... Throwing. -_-_-_-_- I could go on and on, but Chapter 5's mechanics in both gun play and objectives/goals are really bad. Its not healthy for either Group A nor B because these advantages become a Must-Have in order to feel powerful over others or to play Strategically over others. Group A definitely gets more from this Season, while being Naive to how it effects the Meta of the game, while Group B are complaining due to there being no real or interesting strategy this Chapter. The advantages of new POIs are becoming unbearable to overcome. Chapter 5 has got to be the Worst Chapter Ever. When Epic fired all those employees after the OG season, the game hasn't been the same nor has the company been responsive enough to address the communities' concerns. Don't fall for the new skins or how the Graphics look; see the game as it is. At this Point, I'll play the game and try to *Get Better* . But the Strategy of this Chapter is so Bad. But I think I understand what OG players meant by now. I'm a huge fan of Chapter 4 (excluding Ch.4 S3), and I really miss the Augments system. Nothing is wrong with simplicity. In fact, the game seems like it wants to Evolve; but really, it's escalating to be worse than it's predecessors. I guess for now we can stick to ridiculous strats that lack effort; but I do miss previous chapters. .... *GG GET BETTER, DUR DUR DURRR*
It’s the most fun season of the chapter it’s pure dumb fun and I love getting absolutely sloshed with my trio and goofing around and still getting multiple crown wins
its not mid its just anoying i cant play a game without getting ran over by a car and its like gun fights or build fights are no longer a thing its kinda sad
I don't consider myself a comp player, I don't earn money with fn, but I enjoyed rankeds, anyway I don't feel any motivation to reach unreal once again so, after all the nerfs, I decide to stop playing
This Is the most fun season of the chapter unless you’re a comp player and comp players opinions don’t usually matter anymore all they ever do is cry about something until it’s nurfed/removed I haven’t truly enjoyed this game for years until the BEGINNING of this season and the season is mid now because of the nurfs that are happening because of the stupid cry babies known as comp players.
"Comp players opinions dont matter" says the guy who needs to use an op item as a crutch to win. Its insane that people like you will say that people who are actually good at the game are the problem.
@@EthanBallard-j2r listen guy, the problem aren't the good players, the problem is with the excuses these players give, and how the game answers them, it's outrageous that the game ruins completely its own mechanic just to justify one type of gameplay, and that's it, casual players do actually adapt, wether they adapt or they leave the game, but they usually don't complain on it. "comp" players are louder, they aren't more, they are just louder, and you know the solution? easy, play ranked, a better solution? then just apply the nerf for rankeds, easy game
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I'm not a Fan of Chapter 5.
1. OP items, in any season, can be fun to use; and there are a bunch of people who find 'Fun' in using just OP items to get a Win. They are casual and most likely play in groups. Let's call this *Group A* of the Community.
2. However, there are a bunch of people too who have 'Fun' when having strategies, positioning and overcoming obstacles, by skill alone. They tend to play in Solos or Duos; may even compete in FNCS.
This is *Group B* .
Group A are more casual players; and most likely play in groups and don't take the meta too seriously. And if they do, they CHOOSE to use OP items then make an excuse for those who complain to adapt and 'Get Better'.
Group B are people who are really Competitive Players; who want to push the Meta and be the Best there is with what the Game itself offers. They are used to winning with good aim that they have been practicing for. They train to have better building mechanics over others because they have practiced hours upon hours to hone-in their skills. They want the game to be more BALANCED because to them, winning with skill and strategy is more fun then using OP items to win. Less excitement and more strategic play.
Group A and Group B are gonna be completely divided this season; but I think this Whole *Chapter* has made the two Groups much more apparent in the Fortnite community.
Chapter 5 has major problems in how they shaped the Meta for all 3 (and 4th) Seasons.
- *Medallions* :
These Medallions become a must-have and forces people to go after them.
Now, in Ch.5 S1, the medallions were not that OP by themselves but were spread all about the map. This gave players the freedom to go anywhere on the Map, without that being considered of 'throwing the Game'; due to not striving for medallions or having to go to certain locations to get them. They have the option to go get a medallion; but it wasn't required to land at these certain parts of the Map. That sounds Great 👍.
Now, if you got all 5 Medallions, then it showed you were skilled to get them in the lobby. Group A would see the usefulness of one Medallion as 'Weak/No fun'; while Group B would say it's 'Fair/Not a Must-Have'.
But if all are acquired, then the community would say 'That's Fair, they earned it'.
In Ch.5 S2, there are 4 Medallions, less than before, but they give you powers that can make you feel/play OP compared to others in the lobby. The locations of these Medallions are ONLY AT 4 POIs; which limits players to having to go near or at these POIs to get the Medallions.
Group A is fine with the powers and makes them excited to utilize them, while Group B sees which of the Medallions have the best usage in combat and strategizes around that.
The Cerberus Medallion was by far the Best Power that season. The worst was that there was no REAL Strategy around the Cerberus Medallion other than touching water at those POIs (which were only at 2 POIs).
Instead of touching Grass, Group B touched Water, every game, in order to compete with others who did the same. If not, then technically you were choosing not to have the power and were technically throwing.
Strategically, Medallions determine where people land at; and if you aren't landing there, then you are putting yourself at a huge disadvantage. This technically limits the freedom to land at different POIs, since there's not much strategies to land off-course and you can't obtain something that's 'Fun and OP'.
- *Bullet Drop* :
Guns have projectile speed and fundamentally changes how we use guns after 6 years of Fortnite. The thing is, the guns are SOLELY DEPENDENT ON MODIFICATIONS.
Originally, in all other Chapters, you see a gun on the ground you like and you... Pick it up. That's it; just aim and shoot. Your skill on how you use the gun determines everything. Hitscan really showed with good aim and timing, you deserve the win.
The guns in Chapter 5, however, are solely reliant on modifications due to them having bullet drop. For example, the Burst SMG is a great gun; but its even better if it has Red Light modifications to lower its recoil and bullet drop, hip-fire easier, and an added reticle to aim better with it.
And here's the problem...
You need Modifications; for both Power and Strategy. Period.
Group A sees modifications as:
'Wow! I get to modify my gun the way I want it? Sweet! I feel OP, empowered, and I have freedom to express myself on a gun I picked up.'
Group B are like:
'Alright... Got a Reaper Sniper Rifle... It's a Must for potential one-shots... But it doesn't have the reticle I need in order to shoot comfortably... And the bullet drop doesn't help... I have no choice but to wait till the 3rd Storm phase and then compete in Vaults that slowly open... Against other players who are striving to do the same...'
... Every game. Heck, even the Vaults open up in Storm and that's just absurd. But regardless, everyone becomes reliant on Modifications.
Unless you get a Mythic that has no recoil, bigger projectile size, great damage that multiplies, and fast reload... Waterbending. Now at the time, there was no real reason to have Chapter 5 guns if Waterbending was overall better.
Previously, in other Chapters, if you picked up a gun, it was straight forward; the only thing random was what gun was randomly placed on the ground and it's rarity. But now, if you pick up a gun, you are relying on even its modifications... Which also limits how you shoot with THAT gun because of Bullet Drop off... And then you have to Wait till a Vault opens up... To fight against others who also have the same predicament as you or are more lucky to have found a gun with better modifications than you...
So, what's the solution in Chapter 5?
... Land at POIs that offer:
1. The Medallion which Gives you Power
2. A Mythic Gun with Better Modifications
... Which gives more reason, Strategically and Casually, to go for POIs that offer these things... And if you don't land where that stuff is available at, then you are technically...
Throwing.
-_-_-_-_-
I could go on and on, but Chapter 5's mechanics in both gun play and objectives/goals are really bad. Its not healthy for either Group A nor B because these advantages become a Must-Have in order to feel powerful over others or to play Strategically over others.
Group A definitely gets more from this Season, while being Naive to how it effects the Meta of the game, while Group B are complaining due to there being no real or interesting strategy this Chapter. The advantages of new POIs are becoming unbearable to overcome.
Chapter 5 has got to be the Worst Chapter Ever. When Epic fired all those employees after the OG season, the game hasn't been the same nor has the company been responsive enough to address the communities' concerns.
Don't fall for the new skins or how the Graphics look; see the game as it is.
At this Point, I'll play the game and try to *Get Better* . But the Strategy of this Chapter is so Bad.
But I think I understand what OG players meant by now. I'm a huge fan of Chapter 4 (excluding Ch.4 S3), and I really miss the Augments system.
Nothing is wrong with simplicity. In fact, the game seems like it wants to Evolve; but really, it's escalating to be worse than it's predecessors.
I guess for now we can stick to ridiculous strats that lack effort; but I do miss previous chapters.
.... *GG GET BETTER, DUR DUR DURRR*
Chapter 5 as a whole is not only kinda mid, it's fucking awful
Is it mid or awful?
It’s the most fun season of the chapter it’s pure dumb fun and I love getting absolutely sloshed with my trio and goofing around and still getting multiple crown wins
I bet u can't get win without using a car
fortntie chapter 5 season 3 the first week was... special, easily the best season
Yea, it was cool, now cars are less fun but sweaty kids are still saying that cars are op, so nobody is happy XD
I agree
What an original comment
Not even funny 👍
goobadooba be lke 🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
its not mid its just anoying i cant play a game without getting ran over by a car and its like gun fights or build fights are no longer a thing its kinda sad
i kinda disagree
honestly as a comp player i am taking a break from this season. It really is mid and i do agree with you
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I don't consider myself a comp player, I don't earn money with fn, but I enjoyed rankeds, anyway I don't feel any motivation to reach unreal once again so, after all the nerfs, I decide to stop playing
This Is the most fun season of the chapter unless you’re a comp player and comp players opinions don’t usually matter anymore all they ever do is cry about something until it’s nurfed/removed I haven’t truly enjoyed this game for years until the BEGINNING of this season and the season is mid now because of the nurfs that are happening because of the stupid cry babies known as comp players.
"Comp players opinions dont matter" says the guy who needs to use an op item as a crutch to win. Its insane that people like you will say that people who are actually good at the game are the problem.
nah, season has been so nerfed that it isn't fun anymore
@@EthanBallard-j2r listen guy, the problem aren't the good players, the problem is with the excuses these players give, and how the game answers them, it's outrageous that the game ruins completely its own mechanic just to justify one type of gameplay, and that's it, casual players do actually adapt, wether they adapt or they leave the game, but they usually don't complain on it. "comp" players are louder, they aren't more, they are just louder, and you know the solution? easy, play ranked, a better solution? then just apply the nerf for rankeds, easy game
It’s a terrible chapter it’s not mid people aren’t giving this season the shit it deserves they ether whine or just love the season
its a good chapther stfu
Anyone finding this season to be awful are just wining, unable to adapt lil spoiled brats.
Keep crying
I kinda just joined to see anyone view points
I’ll give it a rating myself when I can play it 😐
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poor bro 😭😭
@@siennamartinez9604 indeed I am very unfortunate, at this point I can play creative but not battle royal
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