That would actually be so good. Not only the implication that Loki will have remembered what that common old man said to him and it actually stuck with him, but it works on so many levels between Loki's ventures against Kang, what he personally used to be, and the incredible change he went through.
So Loki went through all of that emotional development and villain to hero passage just so Dr. Doom can kill him and take his power?????? Seems pretty shitty and lame to do the character like that
@pasttense69 if they do that, it will be the biggest slap in the face to one of the best stories ever told and to the fans of that show and character. Loki should be untouchable, the most that should happen is either he is immobilized or sealed, then he comes back when the avengers eventually win.
idk 100% seems like something Doom would do and would happen to Loki. Loki cant do anything heroic without it biting him in the ass. he was born to lose b
@simeonradayski8126 that's how I know he will be back for sure that quote from Infinity war "The sun will shine on us again brother " And we definitely want to see that fulfilled
So they'll kill off loki 😭. But will they really kill him off since everyone loves Loki and Tom Hiddleston. I'd be fine with it if it's a good send off for loki and not like infinity war send off cause that wasn't a satisfying send off for me. Marvel, I guess it's time to make another Loki show after he dies again. 😂😢 I hope they just let him be free from holding everything together and he lives but we'll see.
Feels like it’s gonna be a crazy fight though Lokis way stronger now Time slipping my have made him overpowered so it’s kinda gonna be wild seeing him fight doomey
Most likely they wont kill loki. I think Doom will want to take the throne that loki sits in and steal his powers. That is the only spot where Doom can sit and create the Battleworld. Most likely they will kill off thor and loki wont get to meet him. Loki will probably get defeated by Doom at the end. Maybe after that in secret war loki will assemble his multiversal team to fight against Doom. Doom isnt a maniac who kills off people. He is very precise and calculative. His objective is to regain power and create battleworld because he think by taking power is the only way to save the multiverse. And remember loki is "God of stories. " and in the comics Doom becomes " God emperor Doom. " Thats why I think Doom will fight Loki and earn his title of " God emperor " by defeating Loki. This can go many ways. Maybe Doom will steal Loki's powers after most probably defeating him. Or challenege him for the throne at the end of time. He will most likely torture O.B and learn about time slipping. I think Kang will be in the movie. Like loki talked with kang, he slips in time and talks to HWR in thr citadel and that's where they make "The partnership " from comic book. Then follows Loki's footsteps to the end of time. Challenges him and defeats him. Sits in the throne loki sits in as he sees the multiverse dying and creates the Battleworld out of mercy. Loki escapes somehow. I think this is the best way to get things right
@@icarus391 That makes sense. I'm not that familiar with Doctor Doom, because I haven't read many of the marvel comics I've only read a some Loki centered comics like all the Agent of Asgard comics. I sort of forgot Loki’s the god of stories now. I'm sure whatever happens will be interesting.
Loki becoming the mcu's version of molecule man would be perfect. If Dr doom beats loki he could use his power to make him as powerful as god emperor doom in the comics to set up secret wars.
Nope, It's the opposite. The reason Kang's variants are out again is because Loki is keeping the multiverse alive. Maybe that's how they plan on getting rid of Kang by killing Loki which makes absolutely no sense
Obviously, we are still early and these "theories" of course should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I've said (and seen on social media) that if they make this* Loki lose/be killed so easily, it'll be the worst thing imo. This Loki is ridiculously powerful and he should* play a part in BEATING Dr Doom. The throwback to the first Avengers would be insane, with their roles reversed.
Wait does that mean that Loki is gonna die , because at this point I think it would actually be cooler to see all the hero's and Loki unite to try defeat Dr Doom in secret wars after the multiverse is destroyed .
or maybe dr doom torcher silviey and ask loki to make battle world and at the last of secret war all time line will destroy and loki will be free then he is going to kill dr.doom or loki guide thor so he become rune king thor or cosmic etc.
I think Loki will essentially take the role of Molecule Man (Secret Wars 2016). God Emperor Doom siphoned Molecule Man’s power to obtain his Godlike power.
I think Loki will be more like the Beyonders, and doom will take his power. Because if doom uses Loki to take Beyonders' power, it would Just be better to take Loki's power, and be the god of the multiverse.
@@riquelsonalcochete6070 If I remember correctly, didn’t Molecule Man steal the Beyonders power then Doom siphoned MM’s power? Same point either way. Doom will get Loki’s power to become God Emperor Doom.
I think that doomsday should end with the heroes losing, dr. Doom taking out loki which results in the multiverse being destroyed. Loki would eventually be back for secret wars. After we get this new universe with all these heros and Loki would eventually end up being ethier the new leader of the TVA or the new he who remains who just watchs over time. Favorite Hero: Batman
@@yablomas_ they almost definitely have access to the scripts of the next 4 marvel films and could certainly have the script written from beginning to end.
@@yderga8707but in the Comics theres a while team that survive including Peter Spider-Man that leads into miles joining the main universe with peter because he gave the beyonder a burger
Here's what people are forgetting. Loki is outside of time. He already knows what has happened, what is currently happening, and what needs to happen in the future. He will ALWAYS end up back where he's at. Just like He Who Remains. Loki will know of Doom's plans. I feel like The God of Mischief Loki will outplay Doom in the End. In the 80's secret wars comic, doom was defeated. The F4 rebuilt the multiverse, doom was then on earth 616, with a "restored face," symbolizing a new start. In the 2015 secret wars, doom and molecule man were essentially trying to save the multiverse. I honeslty believe the MCU's form of Molecule Man is the time bombs we saw being used by Mr. Paradox. Because in the 2015 Secret Wars, the beyonders set up multiversal molecule men to essentially blow up to destroy that timeline/universe. I think Doom is on a Mission to "help" the multiverse, but the power gets to his head. But i could be wrong!
the issue im worried about is there has been literally no set up for dr doom. so i would like to see some proper Thanos level set up. since he is the next BIG threat.
What if we get a hydra captain America in doomsday and sides with Doom and maybe an evil Thor variant? Adding the same trio but evil? Also it would be cool how the first avengers villain Loki fights with the final avengers villain Doom
Im.still not sold on the Doom, Tony Stark variant thing. It's just lazy writing. Everyone having a variant just waters down the story. IMO, and my opinion only. The Multiverse safari need to end asap and move on to a new chapter. There's so many characters in Marvel Lore that haven't been explored yet.
I’m not gonna lie the idea sounds cool, but I’m still not sold out at all on the idea of Dr Doom as a Tony stark varient, I want Victor Von Doom, not infamous Iron Man
If Marvel kills Loki again, I will be so angry. He has come so far in his evolution only for Doom to kill him isn’t okay with me. I want to see Loki reunite with Thor and also to ultimately survive.
Not to mention Doom, even in the comics, is nowhere NEAR the power Loki has rn, a fight between Loki and Doom in the MCU would need to be a very logical accurate fight, and the only logical outcome would be Doom getting his ass DESTROYED.
They have made it clear that he is playing Victor Von Doom. I get that you want it to be Tony. But I don't think they would specify it this far out if it was just to trick us That said too good video otherwise
I agree with you Warren that Tony Stark's variant will be Victor Von Doom from the particular universe he's coming from. I believe Feige and the Russos aren't being totally clear by saying Robert Downey Jr is playing a "new" character. Technically every variant is new character even if they have a similar persona and the same name played the same actor. But hey I could be wrong.
Feel like the end credit should be. Loki sitting in the chair holding the universes. But there dead laying on the floor. Then he lets go and stands up. And his music starts to play ….
Imagine this is the ending we get for Secret Wars! Man that'd be epic. Though I wanna see them actully set Doom up properly and then make him go rampage on the Multiverse. I wish there was more time... You know what else would be epic? They should bring Tom Cruise and finally give us the Superior Iron Man we wanted. Then being the High Ego guy he is, he challenges Doom, who just takes him out in one blow. That'd be hilarious! Like a huge tense build up for a scene people were kinda hoping for and then just instantly killed off. Kinda like the Wolverine vs Sabertooth scene in D&W. It'd be so meta that RDJ is a better Tony than Tom Cruise no matter a hero or a viilain.
I'm sure I read somewhere that the Russo bros didn't like lokis character and it was their idea to kill him off in Infinity War. When really he should have been in the movie longer considering he just became good at end of Ragnarok. Anyway, I fear they'll kill him off, or at least stage it like that but he fakes his death like good old Classic loki told the story about. If not I think and epic battle between them would be a good watch especially considering how powerful he is now. I could see Thir swooping and and dying at hands of doom at the end, and Loki being distraught as a mirror to Thor losing loki. So we never get to see them reunite. But I secret wars they reunite because loki works out a way to bring him and others like Heimdall, Jane even Odin back from valhalla. That would be epic!! There is so much potential but worried there just won't be enough run time and the other Avengers will be given more attention.
What if Tony’s mom sold her soul to Mephisto, Winter Soldier took her life (CivilWar) and after everything Ironman had done, wanting a suit of armor around the world, saving the universe from Thanos, & in death he just wants to save Mommy from Bucky making him the bad guy in Cap’s eyes and any Avenger on his side’s
I just hope that in between these two movies that being doomsday and Secret Wars we get kind of a what if style show that tells us various stories happening on battleworld
At first I wasn’t sure how I felt that RDJ returning but hearing more news about the story line it just sound pretty crazy and I was definitely excited for Kang but unfortunately things happen but now knowing that DrDoom was originally planned for the next big bad it sounds great to me now I’m use hella excited to see how Peter/Spiderman react that this variant of Doom is Tony😮💨😮💨
With this description, I'm picturing the 90's Spider-Man cartoon Secret Wars. Just instead of Madam Web and the Beyonder playing "Chess" with the heros and villians, it's Loki and Dr. Doom. I see Doom succeding in the destruction of the Multiverse but before he does, Loki pulls heros from their universes and forms his team with the help from the Beyonder from the What If show. I think it would be interesting to see something like that. Like Doom gains access and knowledge from the Multiverse and brings together a team of familiar faced villains so that the heros have to also face their past to save the future. Could really set up somethings for future movies after Secret Wars as well
Has anyone noticed how in Multiverse of Madness Dr Strange says when Reed Richard's is introduced "didn't you guys chart in the 60's?" and now the new Fantastic Four movie is taking place in a futuristic retro 1960's universe?
Because RDJ wont be Doom forever, and how they said he IS Victor, i honestly feel like theyre going to introduce in a flashback, that in the F4 universe Doom and Tony were room mates, thats why he isnt mentioned in the film, we dont see Dooms Face (so it could be the eventual actor to play him) but we do see a young Tony Stark, and he mentions theyre working on a machine together but some of the math is wrong Which ends up being a trick by Doom, switching them both so Doom can use Tonys wealth and status This is better than the whole switched at birth thing, because it gives us a Dr Doom in Starks body, and also sets up a Stark in Dr Dooms body, who will be our future Dr Doom when they switch back
Secret Wars. The seven heroes from an X-Men and a Peter Parker would been proved by Loki as anchor beings to save their timelines not be a sacrificial one.
Loki knowing one may need to save it all. The four if you see it that way would provide Tobey Maguire, Reed Richards, Cyclops, and Doctor Strange to end it all for the future.
What if Loki is bored just sitting there and decides to mess with Tony Stark in a timeline since he’s the reason he’s there. So he manipulates a timeline where Tony ‘s parents die with him overseas, he gets adopted or something, and eventually becomes Doom. So Loki creates his own destruction.
Doom: “There are no men like me.”
Loki: “There are always men like you.”
I understood that reference! 😭
@@ZyliceLiddell I understood *that* reference!
That would actually be so good. Not only the implication that Loki will have remembered what that common old man said to him and it actually stuck with him, but it works on so many levels between Loki's ventures against Kang, what he personally used to be, and the incredible change he went through.
Pleeeease!!! That would be so good!!
That would be killer dialog.
It's crazy to see Loki being the good guy and Tony being the bad guy. An inverse of the original Avengers film
ah someone is unfamilar with Superior Ironman and God of Stories/Kid Loki.
@@cocoadragon8554I think they mean in the MCU…just saying
I hope when it's all over, both Loki and Tony get their happy endings. If they can reform Loki, they can reform Doom.
I hope Loki survives his encounter with Doom by time slipping at the last second before Doom can finish him off.
Don’t forget that Loki is like super smart now too
Tony Stark will get his revenge for Loki throwing him off his own building.
Can not wait for the Loki/Thor Sun will shine upon us again payoff
how tf are there doomsday leaks already
Everyday it’s a new leak and they heard something about the plot
Because
@@adrianacev7579 welcome to the internet
Lmao
@Standout_ink for real.
I think this are ideas people created about how the movie may end .
It just ideas from Reddit 😀🤣
Someone’s getting fired… and it ain’t me lol
I checked your work history sir. Seen the surveillance cameras. You been a bad boy. you're fired😊
_Tony vs Loki in Avengers._
_Doom vs Loki v2 in Avengers V._
Makes sense 💪
Do you mean Victor?
@@ephprinn308 Victor Von DOOM AKA Doctor DOOM
Having Loki die would be so pointless. What would the whole point of the TVA and the Loki series be
He already served his purpose. Loki is already holding the multiverse for near infinite time. His character arc ended.
Doc: “I am Doom!”
Loki: “And I… am… a god.”
So Loki went through all of that emotional development and villain to hero passage just so Dr. Doom can kill him and take his power?????? Seems pretty shitty and lame to do the character like that
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. Loki dying makes absolutely zero sense to me
@pasttense69 if they do that, it will be the biggest slap in the face to one of the best stories ever told and to the fans of that show and character. Loki should be untouchable, the most that should happen is either he is immobilized or sealed, then he comes back when the avengers eventually win.
idk 100% seems like something Doom would do and would happen to Loki. Loki cant do anything heroic without it biting him in the ass. he was born to lose
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I totally agree with you. I will be so angry if they kill Loki yet again
Loki never dies lol, if Doom gets to kill him he very much is likely to not be really killed just to come back later and win again
Loki has the most character development imo.
Facts
Tony stark too
Dont kill Loki,Again!!!
Man the avengers movies never end well for my dude
No worries.
No worries, loki will be live, and will be with Thor.
@simeonradayski8126 that's how I know he will be back for sure that quote from Infinity war
"The sun will shine on us again brother "
And we definitely want to see that fulfilled
So they'll kill off loki 😭. But will they really kill him off since everyone loves Loki and Tom Hiddleston. I'd be fine with it if it's a good send off for loki and not like infinity war send off cause that wasn't a satisfying send off for me. Marvel, I guess it's time to make another Loki show after he dies again. 😂😢 I hope they just let him be free from holding everything together and he lives but we'll see.
Real
Feels like it’s gonna be a crazy fight though
Lokis way stronger now
Time slipping my have made him overpowered so it’s kinda gonna be wild seeing him fight doomey
Most likely they wont kill loki. I think Doom will want to take the throne that loki sits in and steal his powers. That is the only spot where Doom can sit and create the Battleworld. Most likely they will kill off thor and loki wont get to meet him. Loki will probably get defeated by Doom at the end. Maybe after that in secret war loki will assemble his multiversal team to fight against Doom. Doom isnt a maniac who kills off people. He is very precise and calculative.
His objective is to regain power and create battleworld because he think by taking power is the only way to save the multiverse.
And remember loki is "God of stories. " and in the comics Doom becomes " God emperor Doom. " Thats why I think Doom will fight Loki and earn his title of " God emperor " by defeating Loki. This can go many ways. Maybe Doom will steal Loki's powers after most probably defeating him. Or challenege him for the throne at the end of time. He will most likely torture O.B and learn about time slipping. I think Kang will be in the movie. Like loki talked with kang, he slips in time and talks to HWR in thr citadel and that's where they make "The partnership " from comic book. Then follows Loki's footsteps to the end of time. Challenges him and defeats him. Sits in the throne loki sits in as he sees the multiverse dying and creates the Battleworld out of mercy. Loki escapes somehow. I think this is the best way to get things right
@@icarus391 That makes sense. I'm not that familiar with Doctor Doom, because I haven't read many of the marvel comics I've only read a some Loki centered comics like all the Agent of Asgard comics. I sort of forgot Loki’s the god of stories now. I'm sure whatever happens will be interesting.
I’d prefer an epic Norse Loki movie.
Loki: you'll lose
Doomy jr: I have an army
Loki: We have a Hulk... several
Edit: also, I'm assuming Loki will give Doom his 'beyonder level' powers?
😂 That would be so funny. If they actually said that in the movie.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOO
@@Business101HQ we saw how well it worked out the first time
Let him have his fun
He says the same line from Infinity War 😂
Loki becoming the mcu's version of molecule man would be perfect. If Dr doom beats loki he could use his power to make him as powerful as god emperor doom in the comics to set up secret wars.
If doom destroys the tva/loki, wouldn’t that mean kang would come back?
Probably destroys them both
Majors will get another shot!
Wow!!! That makes sense or unless Doom becomes God Emperor Doom
logically, then he can be a part if another event later on the line
Nope, It's the opposite. The reason Kang's variants are out again is because Loki is keeping the multiverse alive. Maybe that's how they plan on getting rid of Kang by killing Loki which makes absolutely no sense
Scoopers have been wrong about ALOT of stuff since last year. I don’t believe anything they say anymore
It’s all bs
Honestly, Loki vs Doom would be very interesting especially if he's a Tony varient. I think doing it like that would make the creative choice viable
Obviously, we are still early and these "theories" of course should be taken with a grain of salt. However, I've said (and seen on social media) that if they make this* Loki lose/be killed so easily, it'll be the worst thing imo. This Loki is ridiculously powerful and he should* play a part in BEATING Dr Doom. The throwback to the first Avengers would be insane, with their roles reversed.
facts loki had such a perfect ending in season 2 i don’t want that to get tainted
They don’t pay villains 100m. He’s DEFINITELY going to become Ironman again at some point during the two movies.
Tell that to Jack Nicholson. With his Batman deal he made that in 89
He's definitely gonna play a stark variant in secret wars but Downey gets paid the big bucks regardless
Doom will receive his due!
Wait does that mean that Loki is gonna die , because at this point I think it would actually be cooler to see all the hero's and Loki unite to try defeat Dr Doom in secret wars after the multiverse is destroyed .
or maybe dr doom torcher silviey and ask loki to make battle world and at the last of secret war all time line will destroy and loki will be free then he is going to kill dr.doom or loki guide thor so he become rune king thor or cosmic etc.
I hope Doctor Doom would be better villain in Avengers 5 and Secret Wars!!!🔥
It doesn't meen they are 'safe' because Loki is there it just meens they all have a fighting chance now !!!
*means*
@@bryanergau6682 meens dumbass
@@bryanergau6682 meens dumbass
I think Loki will essentially take the role of Molecule Man (Secret Wars 2016).
God Emperor Doom siphoned Molecule Man’s power to obtain his Godlike power.
you mean 2015 right?
@@ephprinn308 could be but you know what I mean if you read that series
@@moksolo6231 sure
I think Loki will be more like the Beyonders, and doom will take his power. Because if doom uses Loki to take Beyonders' power, it would Just be better to take Loki's power, and be the god of the multiverse.
@@riquelsonalcochete6070 If I remember correctly, didn’t Molecule Man steal the Beyonders power then Doom siphoned MM’s power? Same point either way. Doom will get Loki’s power to become God Emperor Doom.
He actually started the MCU as a villain. He was a warmongering war profiteer at the beginning of the movie
I think that doomsday should end with the heroes losing, dr. Doom taking out loki which results in the multiverse being destroyed. Loki would eventually be back for secret wars.
After we get this new universe with all these heros and Loki would eventually end up being ethier the new leader of the TVA or the new he who remains who just watchs over time.
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How tf is Dr Doom gonna defeat someone who can just stop time lol
Doom has invented "time locks" That's why marvel stories dont reset after a time story like DC. when doom changes time, it stays changed.
Magic.
@@bryanergau6682black magic
With a clock
Dr doom has some magical stuff man
Sounds amazing!!! RDoomeyJr. Vs Loki and some other characters like chang-chi, Thor, Strange, D&W, Wanda maybe some GotG.
I would like to see Dr Doom and Loki face off i know it will be epic.
Aren’t they writing the movie currently 🤣
They probably have a main plot down though, plus they can’t just write it from beginning to end and go with the flow cuz stuff has to tie in
There's absolutely no way anything concrete can be "leaked" at this point. It's all just a bunch of people grabbing views.
@@yablomas_ they almost definitely have access to the scripts of the next 4 marvel films and could certainly have the script written from beginning to end.
Nah most leaks this dude said turn out to be 60 percent true that i havnt been seeing his channel for years@@yderga8707
His role is going to double as an iron Man variant in Secret Wars I'm going to call it now
Of course, they don’t pay the villain 100million dollars
Pretty much
The ending sounds perfect, a great way to set up Secret Wars and for Doom to create Battleworld!
I think that Loki should be the main character in Secret Wars and an Overarching Character in Doomsday
Please don't let Loki die, it's going to be very pointless. Save it for secret wars
Well they're changing the film, after all these are deleted drafts pre Majors leaving
I'm pretty sure Secret Wars is going to be the film the reboots the MCU, so almost everyone is probably going to die.
@@yderga8707but in the Comics theres a while team that survive including Peter Spider-Man that leads into miles joining the main universe with peter because he gave the beyonder a burger
I'm excited to see where this all goes.
Here's what people are forgetting. Loki is outside of time. He already knows what has happened, what is currently happening, and what needs to happen in the future. He will ALWAYS end up back where he's at. Just like He Who Remains. Loki will know of Doom's plans. I feel like The God of Mischief Loki will outplay Doom in the End. In the 80's secret wars comic, doom was defeated. The F4 rebuilt the multiverse, doom was then on earth 616, with a "restored face," symbolizing a new start.
In the 2015 secret wars, doom and molecule man were essentially trying to save the multiverse.
I honeslty believe the MCU's form of Molecule Man is the time bombs we saw being used by Mr. Paradox.
Because in the 2015 Secret Wars, the beyonders set up multiversal molecule men to essentially blow up to destroy that timeline/universe.
I think Doom is on a Mission to "help" the multiverse, but the power gets to his head. But i could be wrong!
Can’t wait for Thor and Loki to reunite just for him to maybe die again but then come back 😂
Blade was the first on screen Marvel hero that paved the way for Iron Man’s success.
I literally got chills when you went into depth of the 2 characters and how it might end with their complete role reversals!
Awesome video
the issue im worried about is there has been literally no set up for dr doom. so i would like to see some proper Thanos level set up. since he is the next BIG threat.
If this is the ending for doomsday. It is perfect in my honest opinion.
What if we get a hydra captain America in doomsday and sides with Doom and maybe an evil Thor variant? Adding the same trio but evil? Also it would be cool how the first avengers villain Loki fights with the final avengers villain Doom
I don't like the idea of Loki dying.
Again.
@@ZyliceLiddell Yes...again.
A hope loki becomes the hero for a change and destroys doom
He already did. Haven't you seen season 2?
Im.still not sold on the Doom, Tony Stark variant thing. It's just lazy writing. Everyone having a variant just waters down the story. IMO, and my opinion only. The Multiverse safari need to end asap and move on to a new chapter. There's so many characters in Marvel Lore that haven't been explored yet.
like I said it isn’t a Tony Stark variant he is playing Victor Von Doom even if you don’t like the sound of it to put it nicely I think.
Love the content
I’m not gonna lie the idea sounds cool, but I’m still not sold out at all on the idea of Dr Doom as a Tony stark varient, I want Victor Von Doom, not infamous Iron Man
If Marvel kills Loki again, I will be so angry. He has come so far in his evolution only for Doom to kill him isn’t okay with me. I want to see Loki reunite with Thor and also to ultimately survive.
Not to mention Doom, even in the comics, is nowhere NEAR the power Loki has rn, a fight between Loki and Doom in the MCU would need to be a very logical accurate fight, and the only logical outcome would be Doom getting his ass DESTROYED.
this is epic. imagine if doctor doom shows up with a team of evil variant avengers.
You're kind of right Warren. RDJ will be an Ironman variant and he'll be Victor Von Doom as well. He'll be playing two roles.
6:43 Coulson is bigger than
all of it… 616MCU1999999’s A true Anchor Being
Loki’s Nexus is literally killing Coulson
Definitely has the potential to be epic, and if anyone can pull it off it's the Russos.
They have made it clear that he is playing Victor Von Doom. I get that you want it to be Tony. But I don't think they would specify it this far out if it was just to trick us
That said too good video otherwise
*EPIC* thumbnail!
I LOVE YOU MY KING ❤...!
I am pumped for this
Well in the comics Tony is adopted to the Stark Family, so that may end up a factor or not if they were to Retcon Tony's Birth Name
8:58 😂 Scoutmaster Kevin used to say
that very same thing
I agree with you Warren that Tony Stark's variant will be Victor Von Doom from the particular universe he's coming from. I believe Feige and the Russos aren't being totally clear by saying Robert Downey Jr is playing a "new" character. Technically every variant is new character even if they have a similar persona and the same name played the same actor. But hey I could be wrong.
I guess I need to bring my emergency pills to cinema this time
Feel like the end credit should be. Loki sitting in the chair holding the universes. But there dead laying on the floor. Then he lets go and stands up. And his music starts to play ….
I think it’s *EPIC* that Tom’s new company ‘For All Time Productions’ is going to be behind these films. 😎
Imagine this is the ending we get for Secret Wars! Man that'd be epic. Though I wanna see them actully set Doom up properly and then make him go rampage on the Multiverse. I wish there was more time...
You know what else would be epic? They should bring Tom Cruise and finally give us the Superior Iron Man we wanted. Then being the High Ego guy he is, he challenges Doom, who just takes him out in one blow. That'd be hilarious! Like a huge tense build up for a scene people were kinda hoping for and then just instantly killed off. Kinda like the Wolverine vs Sabertooth scene in D&W. It'd be so meta that RDJ is a better Tony than Tom Cruise no matter a hero or a viilain.
I bet no one predicted that iron man being a villain full circle.., and Loki a hero full circle
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Doom’s gotta win in Doomsday, but not sure if he’ll kill Loki to do it though 🤔 maybe??
I'm sure I read somewhere that the Russo bros didn't like lokis character and it was their idea to kill him off in Infinity War. When really he should have been in the movie longer considering he just became good at end of Ragnarok. Anyway, I fear they'll kill him off, or at least stage it like that but he fakes his death like good old Classic loki told the story about. If not I think and epic battle between them would be a good watch especially considering how powerful he is now. I could see Thir swooping and and dying at hands of doom at the end, and Loki being distraught as a mirror to Thor losing loki. So we never get to see them reunite. But I secret wars they reunite because loki works out a way to bring him and others like Heimdall, Jane even Odin back from valhalla. That would be epic!! There is so much potential but worried there just won't be enough run time and the other Avengers will be given more attention.
Avengers IW: *Damn we lost!*
Avengers DD: *AGAIN??*
Can’t wait!
What if Tony’s mom sold her soul to Mephisto, Winter Soldier took her life (CivilWar) and after everything Ironman had done, wanting a suit of armor around the world, saving the universe from Thanos, & in death he just wants to save Mommy from Bucky making him the bad guy in Cap’s eyes and any Avenger on his side’s
I just hope that in between these two movies that being doomsday and Secret Wars we get kind of a what if style show that tells us various stories happening on battleworld
No i cant accept this...WHERE IS MY POOR WANDA
This is a good idea, but I'm surprised that we have this leak so early 💯
They're both variants. Both characters we watched for years died already.
You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain. Robert Downey jr’s marvel career in a nut shell
I think that scene where Thor was crying over Deadpool is really Loki
I'm anticipating and excited to see Loki and Thor reunited let me know what you think 🙂
This is such great news can't wait
At first I wasn’t sure how I felt that RDJ returning but hearing more news about the story line it just sound pretty crazy and I was definitely excited for Kang but unfortunately things happen but now knowing that DrDoom was originally planned for the next big bad it sounds great to me now
I’m use hella excited to see how Peter/Spiderman react that this variant of Doom is Tony😮💨😮💨
hey the cosmic wonder what will be the avengers movie after secret wars??
With this description, I'm picturing the 90's Spider-Man cartoon Secret Wars. Just instead of Madam Web and the Beyonder playing "Chess" with the heros and villians, it's Loki and Dr. Doom. I see Doom succeding in the destruction of the Multiverse but before he does, Loki pulls heros from their universes and forms his team with the help from the Beyonder from the What If show. I think it would be interesting to see something like that. Like Doom gains access and knowledge from the Multiverse and brings together a team of familiar faced villains so that the heros have to also face their past to save the future. Could really set up somethings for future movies after Secret Wars as well
Has anyone noticed how in Multiverse of Madness Dr Strange says when Reed Richard's is introduced "didn't you guys chart in the 60's?" and now the new Fantastic Four movie is taking place in a futuristic retro 1960's universe?
Because RDJ wont be Doom forever, and how they said he IS Victor, i honestly feel like theyre going to introduce in a flashback, that in the F4 universe Doom and Tony were room mates, thats why he isnt mentioned in the film, we dont see Dooms Face (so it could be the eventual actor to play him) but we do see a young Tony Stark, and he mentions theyre working on a machine together but some of the math is wrong
Which ends up being a trick by Doom, switching them both so Doom can use Tonys wealth and status
This is better than the whole switched at birth thing, because it gives us a Dr Doom in Starks body, and also sets up a Stark in Dr Dooms body, who will be our future Dr Doom when they switch back
of course he is victor von doom because why Else would it be called doomsday💚🤎💛
What if stories are garbage
@@ephprinn308 .... I know he's called Victor, I think you read the sentence wrong
@@theandrogynousmisogynist Still the only explanation to why RDJ would be playing Doom
Secret Wars. The seven heroes from an X-Men and a Peter Parker would been proved by Loki as anchor beings to save their timelines not be a sacrificial one.
Omg thattt is amazing
Loki knowing one may need to save it all. The four if you see it that way would provide Tobey Maguire, Reed Richards, Cyclops, and Doctor Strange to end it all for the future.
Man I was looking forward Kang dynasty..they did Johnathan wrong ..he did nothing wrong
Love to see these two interact. Can't wait and love the MCU
I think they need to cast Charles Parnell as Cagliostro & he makes his live action appearance & helps with Doomsday & Secret Wars.
Please be true please be true please be true.
Yo. If Latvia is that dead celestral, that could be awesome, and give Doom a reason to have the cape.
And is this how Doom goes green?
hi The Cosmic Wonder
What if Loki is bored just sitting there and decides to mess with Tony Stark in a timeline since he’s the reason he’s there. So he manipulates a timeline where Tony ‘s parents die with him overseas, he gets adopted or something, and eventually becomes Doom. So Loki creates his own destruction.
I really hope this happens because I feel like it would be a good story line for the Avengers films. So, I'm really hoping we get Loki vs Doctor Doom.
Bring back Kang in secret wars is all I ask
Spin it how you like but doom should have been someone else
Are they just going to act like Kang never existed and not say anything about it