Why Gujral, Gowda, Chandra Shekhar, VP Singh, Charan Singh: India’s short-term PMs matter | ep 332
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On IK Gujral’s 100th anniversary, we look at India’s short, cameo innings prime ministers and the impact they made. In episode 332 of Cut The Clutter, Shekhar Gupta on why these leaders can’t be overlooked.
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Shekhar Gupta is too nice to IK Gujral. He dismantled the RAW intelligence network in Pak as a confidence building measure. Something that hurts India even now.
You missed out Morarji Desai. Interesting personality who was awarded highest civilian award of Pakistan. A talk on him will be educative.
@@balajidasappajigovindaraju8486 but congressi love him and bash Modi because he is against Pakistan
@@ashokbobade9257 lol. It was the jan sangh, stooges of RSS supported desai against iron lady of India. No wonder he turned out to be a traitor
Reason being he gave away sensitive intels & many raw agents lost their life of cos his mutra therapy
Pls cover the much maligned PM Narasimha Rao who was not allowed a burial in Delhi by Sonia
This is one more masterpiece from you. Majority of Indians don't even heard these names. You have done a great job by sharing their invaluable contribution to the nation.
I have always admired Chandrasekhar for the reasons you advanced.I think even less of VP Singh than you do.
The lesser one thinks of the descendent of Jaichand, the better
All the government after 1991 to 2000 did all this only because of IMF's conditions. If Manmohan Singh was so visionary, he would have opened India's market in 80s only. A chained Lion useless for hunting.
Exactly. The same example can be seen all around the world . Only when the IMF held a gun to the head did liberalisation of the economy start .
Exactly. I remember fondly many reforms that MMS did between 2004-2014 like 2G scam, CWG Scam, Coalgate, Cash for Votes,
@@timepass-se9nw still now!! You didn't show up your evidence yet!!
@@chandrahasan3225 WTF are you blabbering. Atleast type correctly. If you mean "your didn't show" that I represent BJP/Modi, I am not affilated them. Ask them. Point is these scams did happen under MMS watch. If you feel they were not scams, then please say so.
@@timepass-se9nw *SO*
Cut the cutter retro: Lal bahadur shastri Tashkent conspiracy please.
Ashwin CIA did it check in Quora for more details or go to library’s in any country and read about Cold War era
News updates how come Indira got a Khan in her name her husband name is Feroz Jahangir Gandy ( later they changed spelling) is a Parsi not a Muslim like TATAs , Wadias , Godrej , Jubin Irani who migrated to india (gujarath) in 8 th century from Persia when Islam took over then Persia
I had very little idea of the work done by these prime ministers. Do more CTC's like these please whenever there is no big topic to declutter for the current day
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Chandrashekhar was great PM among this daily wage PMs
Shri Chandrashekhar ji was a person emerges out of the Ideological Paradigm The Aura Was of his persona, that he never bended towards Anyone Not held any post through all his walks of life and He had a option to continue as a PM but he resigned in a way that he never bargains the PM post for the sake of chair
You're incredible sir. After watching you here I am following you in twitter and seen an interview with Sonia Gandhi.
@@reconquistahinduism346 Dear open your eyes a little more. Just tell me one thing BJP did all those in Maharashtra that was right according to constitution? Here's question mark on president Prime minister and EX CM of Maharashtra.
@@newsupdates3622 SS Congress and NCP alliance is fareb. Janta felt like they looted. But all are culprits. No one is willing to ask questions who is in power. Irony and pathetic!!
At first you seem like a bakhat. Secondly BJP is not India. Thirdly He might not like BJP. BJP is playing communal cards over decades. He predicted so anyone can get fail at predication so does he. There's no doubt that BJP has won 2019 election because of Bakakot. Economic there Modi fails. employment there Modi fails. Amit sah talks on NRC and other bills which not affect us much. Do remove what we are suffering. from
@@reconquistahinduism346 of course mandate was for BJP and SS. Fandanvis was good, no doubt. But where you find moral ground buddy. BJP can go with PDF we have accept that so does SS now. Accept it. I don't know about myself man I could survive tomorrow or not so how can I say anything on Maharashtra. And Bhai don't abuse at least for the sake of a party or leader. I don't have rivalry with you!
@@reconquistahinduism346 I know what was the attitude of Congress in past, so BJP is doing exactly what they did. So where BJP is standing; nothing but ISS hamam mein sab nagge h. SS broken with BJP so what's wrong? Many do so SS did. Morally SS NCP and Congress cited the people's trust not constitution.
Mandal Commission was the worst way of bringing Social Justice.Kudos to befools OBC qoutas is now haunting us
Sir amazing effort as usual. #request please do an entire series on India’s prime ministers and another one on the biggest social and economic inflection points/reforms/changes for the worse undertaken by various governments. Your work here is extremely educative and instructive. Thank you very much for your hard work.
That’s a very good idea, Shlok. Thank you. Will try and do these long features in the course of time. - SG
So one thing on IK Gujral. When his government fell, he wanted to contest from Amritsar. The alkali dal agreed but put a condition that he should forgive a debt of approx ten thousand crores of Punjab government. (Punjab was a bankrupt state then also...) and he agreed. . This was a huge amount then. I am not sure if he was an actual member of alkali dal then. I think he contested as an independent. Gujral agreed to this. So he actually bought an MP seat for 10000 crores of taxpayer money.. 😀
Sir your videos have great infotainment value. I wait for your video every day before going to bed. I have a request from my side.
A recent development has been weird,which is tariff hike of telecom services. Is this an example of Cartelisation ? Please declutter this issue.
Not exactly, because in cartelization companies keep the rates almost same, jio is still 20% cheaper than airtel/vodafone, also it was done because the current rates were not sustainable for any telecom company, jio achieved what it wanted to achieve, that is biggest user base, and has no reason now to keep the prices artificially low
Thank you for the suggestion. We will at some point soon do a CTC on the crisis in telecom. - SG
Thank you Shekarji, for brining this out. On the same lines, if possible, please bring out videos on some of the famous ministers who took very good or difficult decisions, or were able adminstrators. They also should be recognized.
Very good video. Thanks
The best pm India could ever have was netaji, shastri, Vajpayee, sardar patel we missed them
The greatest of the ‘daily wage’ PM has been the one and only MMS who lived each day of his two terms on the daily wage received from 10, Janpath!
Fantastic episode Sir, i am ashamed I didn't know much about any of them. Each one of them was a true patriot.
I never had info of IK gujrals tenure. Thanks for covering. Indeed a very informative article
Thank you for your response.
v.p. singh ki antim ichha, thakur brahman maange bhiksha. that was a slogan of that time i have read it in a very old book which my bua ji used to study that time. it was handwritten by her
Thanks for this presentation.
I am playing at 1.5 X .. still understand easily....nice analysis
माननीय चन्द्रशेखर जी जैसा व्यक्तित्व राजनीति में कभी कभार ही पैदा होते है
Actually, the catchy slogan- "Prime Minister on daily wages" was coined by the ever jovial MP Shri Piloo Mody of Janta Dal(Earlier, he was in Swatantra party) to address late Charan Singh. Charan Singh Ji is the only P.M. , who did not face the Parliament even for a day as the day he was sworn in, the Parliament was prorogued and the day Parliament was opened, he had to face the "Confidence Motion". Congress party, which has promised support, started a meeting a day earlier to opening of parliament . The meeting continued through out the night and could not come to a conclusion till the Parliament opened. So Charan Sing Ji resigned immediately after the parliament opened.
Such a positive briefing 👌🏻
Shekhar ji , you forgot to mention one more daily wage PM - Morarji Desai ! Could have been 2 years
He was PM with full majority
Very informative.....loved this episode....
We had too many corrupt Prime Ministers who had ruled India. Narasimha Rao was the sole exception. Indira Gandhi at least took the Nation's interest and never compromised on that account. Unfortunately V.P. Singh, Chandrasekhar, Morarji Desai and I.K. Gujral are the worst Prime Ministers of India. V.P. singh nominated Mufti Mohammad Sayeed as the Home Minister under whose watch we saw genocide and exodus of Hindus from Kashmir Valley; Chandrasekhar went ahead and pledged India's gold (47.1 tons) to the IMF and deposited the gold with Bank of England. What happened to the gold? I.K. Gujral and Morarji Desai were instrumental in destroying India's intelligent operatives abroad including their executions. All we have to do is just check the current status of their families. Most of them were corrupt and their families are filthy rich.
But gujaral shut down R&AW special departments
@Just Dab www.outlookindia.com/magazine/story/shackled-by-a-doctrine/239961
@Just Dab i knw that,he was bigger duffer
@Just Dab idiot blew up kahuta trail
Now I know why u r rated as one of the best journalist india has produced.
Great
@@reconquistahinduism346 वैधानिक चेतावनी-जातिवादी कीड़े दूर रहे।
@@reconquistahinduism346 फिर से वैधानिक चेतावनी: जातिवादी और सांप्रदायिक दूर रहे।
Sirji it's like ur so many years of experience n research enhances our knowledge immensely ......superb analysis
He loves to live in nostalgia!
The unsung heros of Indian Politics
Hi Sir.... really liked today's cut the clutter..Thank you
Sir give me some suggestions how do u get all the information...
Dear cut the cutter hero,
I really missed Lal Bahadur Shastri 😒 I hope you mention him tomorrow!
Thanks for writing in, Chandra and please keep doing so. In response to your question, we mentioned Shastri but not in detail. One, because his tenure was cut short not by politics, but death and two, he had not set out to be a short-term PM. Plus, as I said, his tenure is relatively well known. - SG
Shame on you Sir . I am from Punjab. VP Singh was the worst Prime minister of india .
1) Mandal killed india
2) Punjab became almost Khalistan in his era
3) Kashmir problem just exaggerated under him.
In your old age...nostalgia is oozing out of you so much so that you have lost the sense of right and wrong.
Shame on you again.
BTW do at least one article without going into the bhosda of past or history ....& purely on merits of topic.
these week looking PMs have given better things to india
Gujral was honest of all of them
#communists have great time when there is an unstable government at center. #Maoists spread all over country, #Kashmir violence and forced migration happened because of weak governments.
Of course they were great leaders and more important self made leaders not Gandhi/Vadra name bearer.
Hi shekar
Pls do one episode over pv minority govt , how it transformed our nation...
Shekhar Gupta,
You have tried to denigrate former Prime minister VP Singh by mentioning Raid raj.
Not a word on his pobity, integrity and his crusade on corruption which led to ouster of Rajiv.
out of all former PM mentioned, his Government was elected one ,not a propped one created out of normal elections.
I think he is very few who on his own destabilised Mighty congress and just to mention his negatives ,Shekhar Gupta has an ulterior motive .
Reservation & Mandal is needed only to bring the backward class in to mainstream and thiseffort is required as long as we believe in caste system . What V.P Singh did was historic. Those who talk so much bad about V.P do not have any answers why no political party or suprme court could oppose it. It can go only if our young modern mind instead of denigrating V.P or reservation strive for casteless system in society. They allow all associations to flourish brahmin samajkayastha samaj, agarwal samaj, sindhi samaj , Gujjar samaj, Maheshwari samaj. Stop all that and try to remove caste which has not come from when V.P became PM it's there for last2000 years . On the other hand what he has done and the crriticism and hatred heaped on him are all biggest casteist- not a word why all this dominance of caste and no effort to stop that but ridicule the person who brought greatest transformation in social justice at the cost of his chair. Well V.P was never for chair. He resigned as CM of UP on his own.
He resigned as finance minister & defence minister from Rajiv gandhis cabinet on his own
He is the only leader outside congress who formed Janmorcha and jantadal on his own with public support. It was not a small thing. No other leader has done this at Central level.
Why people trusted him : his clean image, integrity, probity and his fight against crony capitalism. How can you forget.
His stand as PM on Ayodhya
Wait for court verdict or consensus between both communities. This iBJP did not listen then but waited for it till 2019 . Same on mandal. No party agreed then but each one has gone six steps ahead with so much of hypocrisy and no antagonism against them .
If V.P was power hungry and manipulative , he would not have declined PM chair after Congress exit on 1995-96 when every opposition group wanted him back.
V.P also is rare politician who never allowed his sons to join politics or promoted them.
Chandrashekhar
Iam surprised when many people praise him and write that as PM he would have been great choice.
Chandrashekhar became PM by ditching the very formation he reluctantly joined Janta dal and alligning with Rajiv Gandhi the very same leader and congress he wanted to defeat six months back.
He was not an active campaigner in 1989 elections where V.P Singh sacrificed his chair as FM and later as defence minister and formed Janmorcha and jantadal. He and his socialist friends who did very little prior to hard fought election , wanted PM chair by hook or crook and opposed the worthy heir VP tooth and nail from first day. The greed and lust for PM chair without any experience of any ministry ( now Rahul is rebuked for that) forced to be part of great destabilization plan Rajiv Gandhi and Swamy planned with the help of corporate friends Ambani who detested VP as he sabotaged their plan of buying Larsen & toubro in peanuts. They took the revenge.
Hence all actions of chandrashekhar was self centred not issue specific as he had no ideals left .His friends were chandraswamy, mamaji narshima rao.
Narshima rao
Shekhar Gupta has habit of heaping praise on Narsimha rao for liberalisation which was brain wave of Manmohan Singh .
His incompetency as Home minister in 1994 sikh riots immediately after Indira Gandhi assassination. Rajiv had just taken ovver and was under grief . It was time for HM to act & Rao just slept. Not a word against him by media including Shekhar Gupta.
In 1992 during Babri Masjid demolition , when the country was burning and destruction taking place , he just slept over with equally incompetent SB Chavan .The PM did not intervene for seven days post demolition and was soft on BJP leaders. This action of his had huge cost on congress from which it could not recover.
His involvement in St Kitts affair with the help of Chandraswamy where he accused V.P Singh and his son Ajeya to have a hidden account . Eventually it was proved that former PM VP's signature were fabricated and whole drama was at the behest of Rao to denigrate V.P.
His bribery case where Harshad Mehta had accused him of suitcase bribery ..
Lakhu bhai ,shibusoren of Jharkhand Mukti and the money used to save his Government.
His minority government was saved by BJP in parliament no of times that shows his closeness to vajpayee and advani.
I think Dr. Subramanyam Swami was a minister in 1977 too
The lack of respect shown by the Nehru gandhi dynasty towards non- family PMs of their own party is legendary- clearly SG fails to explain that aspect. The dynasty controls whom their chelas respect. So progressive and liberal - LOL
As for Deva gowda, never has a bigger crook ever become / been made PM/ he now owns entire districts in Karnataka- Mandya for example- a goonda and crook
Missed talking about Urine therapy PM - Morarji Desai. Probably Professor saab didn't want embarrass us
यह भारतीय राजनीति का सबसे बुरा वक्त था। गुजराल और देवगौड़ा जैसें क्षेत्रीय स्तर के नेता प्रधानमंत्री बन गए । जिनके अन्दर बहुत ज्यादा देश का व्यापक अनुभव शून्य था लेकिन संक्रमण काल था। जिसमें देश को विश्व पटल बहुत नुकसान हुआ था।
This session / series is quite informative and educational, always not be biased, anti hindu, left leaning like media used to be once upon a time
Narendra Modi in fact keeps saying that very same thing... Look beyond Nehru and Gandhi family
Great video really thought provoking!
Please do a Cut The Clutter on the latest SPG amendment Act and the politics behind it
Again a very insightful session of CTC . Kudos
One episode on PM Modi you can do with the things he has picked from all PMs and made his own. Today added another one to the list called the Gujral Jappis.
One episode on Narsimha rao ji please.
You forgot Gulzari Lal Nanda and Morarji Desai
How true are claims that Gujral dismantled RAW's assets in Pakistan?
They don't have to be
Massive respect for Chandra shekar Ji
Shekhar ji I'd be very interested to watch an episode of #ctc on the nuances of the Punjab insurgency. The rise of bhindrawala, his relationship with the Congress party, why this "alliance" (for lack of a better word) fell apart, the group's warfare tactics in Punjab, the reason and then the aftermath of blue star and IG's assassination, finally the "cleanup" in Punjab by kps gill and others.
I'd be really interested in learning more about bhindrawalas motivations because in my mind, I can't tell which category he fits in: a right radical or someone like che guevara.
I understand this is a sensitive topic so you will stick to verifiable facts which you usually do anyways:)
Shekher Ji, insightful as ever...
Just to add a few lines to make it more insightful.
Of all Prime Ministers with short term, worst was V P Singh...
Reasons as follows.
1. Wish Rubyeea sayed was never released....
militancy would have died down then and there. 1989...
2. Mandal commission, we all know, wasn't made applicable because of his love for social justice... had Devi lal not organized the boat club rally.. Mandal commsiion would have stayed in grave.....
3. When he died, do you remember his date of death...
Fine, if you don't, as no one does....
Moreover you as journalist have covered so many political events...
Imagine when V. P. Singh died, there wasn't one to cover his last rites, and no one remembers who were the 4 people who lifted his dead body....
Life gives you back in one life time. It's never the act, karma judges by intent...
Rajiv Gandhi had rightly said when he implemented Mandal commission recommendations that this man has divided india in a way that even British could not....
Good
Hi Sekhar sir.. please make a video on Andhra Pradesh politics and why C BABU NAIDU failed in 2019 politics
Thank you :)
Gujral was the man who jeopardized RAW
DOES AFFIRMATIVE ACTION WORK BY ITSELF? THE GLOBAL ANSWER IS VERY QUALIFIED.
wasn't Morarji desai also a short term pm?
VP made the Indian society such a mess that we haven’t been able to rise from that yet. Mandal commission, his pet project, has benefited only the OBCs of Hindi Heartland
Not sure 1991 reforms or Mandal commission brought out OBC talent
If India had not adopted socialist policy there would not have been need for reservation
Please make a show on the hourly wage Chief Ministers like Fadnavis and Yedyurappa. 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Is it a slip that you are not mentioning Morarji Desai in any case?
We need more "daily wages" Prime Ministers, contrary to what media rutter about them as a weak government's any way they didn't have had any choice than to push something to leave behind as a legacy to remember or they were like"daily wages" PM's all the way!
There was also Gulzari Lal Nanda - twice acting PM
This front is gonna get active it seems
Lal Bahadur Shastri, Charan Singh, VP Singh and Chandra Shekhar are dead, but as former prime ministers, they are still alive in Indian history, that is why you are talking about them
Whereas, Dev Gowda is still alive and he makes political news once in a while
But, I have one question, if the present prime minister talked about them and concerned, what he has done to uplift the figures of these men
You forgot the real daily wager prime minister - Gulazarilal Nanda
Chandrasekhar decent pm on short term
Do a video on p.v.Narasimha rao.The good and bad of his government.
No mention of Sri Morarji Desai.
Mohit Tandon Because he wasn’t a “daily wage PM”.
You left Rubaiya Sayed Kidnap issue
A new light on otherwise called opportunist PM
Confusing statement, ik Gujral born on Pak side of Punjab in 1919...there was no pakistan before 1947. He should know this. ..or not
Why is Morarji Desai Not even mentioned?
3rd December is birthday of our first president...
Gulzari Lal Nanda.....??
AND twice !!
Murarji Desai you didn't mentioned.
Those of us who were in or going into college when the Mandal report was implemented will never forget Madhu Trehan's coverage for Newstrack, of the student agitation against the report nor will we forget the image of Rajiv Goswami in flames. BJP did NOT withdraw support to the V.P.Singh govt. Because of the student immolations, they did so when the rath yathra in ayodya was stopped. Chandrashekher.. I don't believe you would have forgotten how he got his supporters to thrash Ram Jethmalani and tear his clothes off outside his house. Some other political giants of that era i can think of are Biju Patnaik and Tau Devi Lal. Imposing characters, both. And wasn't Arun Shorie sacked from the Indian Express around the same time?
Why no mention of Morarji desai & Gulzari lal nanda
Thanks for your response, Sanjay! We mentioned Shastri, but not in detail. One, because his tenure was cut short not by politics, but death and two, he had not set out to be a short-term PM. Plus, as I said, his tenure is relatively well-known. Nanda was only a stop-gap for a couple of very short periods, until the Congress elected a new PM, so not in that category either. - SG
Okay Shekhar, our country had many cash & carry PMs like Chandrashekar. So what? What the country ought to do?
Why you only blaming vp singh and trying to defend congress for kashmir issue in 1987 assembly elections of J&k the congress nc alliance rigged the elections elections were not held properly
Can you get the picture of the now pm sleeping ??!! You cannot . May be you should understand the what’s press freedom and “press freedom “. What’s cut the clutter do ?? Swatch journalism ?? Godspeed .
In short
Shekhar Gupta wanted to repay his debt to I K Gujaral
Disappointed to see praise for reservations..not expecting from him
Mr. Gupta most glaring omission about PMs is Moraraji Desai who gave the best administration and controlled prices of essentials. It must b deliberate attempt as media and u also definitely did not like him. I am also apprehensive of u giving credit to the Italian lady for contributing to our country. She ruled by proxy and looted the contry.because of slavish congressmen particularly MMS. Shame on our media brothers
Of course, granted the dynastic politics of the congress is like an octopus tentacles, not willing to let go .... needs to b taken down .... congress needs to throw an indifferent sonia out .... they do not appear to have learnt a lesson from JyotiAS exit at all .... nor are they even acknowledging the severe restlessness of the younger congress leaders .... kamalN's ouster was richly deserved .... though the ousting party is not necessarily a good choice! (If there is ever one)
Having said that, the bjp is seperceding all dynastic norms .... most top échelon is either a gujrati or has been connected to gujrat for a significant amout of time .... gujju biz guys have max support ....
of course, there is a second group: (unfortunately amongst them is JyotiAS and TomVadekan) those who have adopted bjp for a variety of reasons .... and this legion of snollygosters are being used by bjp .... and why not? They are there, aren't they?!
The legion of throttlebottoms at the bjp are also legion
Case of the pot calling the kettle black? .... & perhaps the pot is more inept and blacker as days go by!
I am sorry. Performance matters
Data matters
Stats matter
It pays to know history. Even older people like me who have lived through these periods tend to forget the actual events. You ought to have spoken about Morarji Desai, though he was not a short term PM. The reason is that this gandhian, pacifist PM is reputed to have leaked India's nuclear plans to Gen Zia Ul Haq in one of this meetings. A grateful Pakistan conferred on him the national award Nishan e Pakistan. Thereafter, India's problems with Pakistan. Rest is recent history.
So called strong PM DOES NOT HAVE COURAGE TO PARTICIPATE IN PARLIAMENT DEBATES OR PRESS CONFERENCE.
We are so obsessed with glorifying past. Whatever may be the past. It has gone.it is of no use. How many people who can say their Great Grand Father's Grand Father Name. Hardly less than 1% can say. If I am not wrong. When a person can not remember the name of their family member name, Is it really need to remember and glorify the past.
You forgot moraji desai