To me Kyuss is the real Garcia / Homme's stoner deal before QOTSA prostituted it to pop. Love QOTSA though, as a stoner/pop style, but if I need the guts I'll always go for Kyuss. Or Clutch. ^^
Eric Valentine (engineer on 'Songs for the Deaf') has a great vid going in-depth as to how he achieved Josh's tones on that album. There's a lot more going on besides a few pedals.
As a little challenge for you guys, you could try and get a rig going where you sound like as many musicians as possible, so you could get a very versatile set up where you can sound like many guitarists!
Cheap option is a Line 6 amp with a LP style guitar and a Strat. That covers a pretty nice chunk of signature sounds. Line 6 sound pretty sterile to my ears though, but some people swear by them. Check out a 75 watt Line 6 Spider. The expensive option is probably the Kemper amp or maybe the Eleven Rack?
Patrick Meehan the line 6 dt-20 or dt-50 is a tube amp and it integrates with the pod 500,and from what ive seen its miles above and beyond the jar of bees the line6 spiders are line6's cheaper option. they make gear for everyone now,not just the insane gain crowd
Besides every riff being played wrong, that sounds pretty close. The thing is that he just has so much tonal variety that its impossible to nail it down.
Jake Hoffman I wouldnt say he played them wrong, he was just using the wrong tuning. He should be in c standard, not drop c. But othwerwise I find this sounds pretty close without using all the boutique and rare gear JH uses
If that's still an option, I'd love to see 'Sounds like Josh Homme'... BUT in his Kyuss days. That rig was so awesome and sound so unique. As far as I know he did the reverse thing of what the Royal Blood guy did - he plugged his guitar into bass rig and rocked the desert that way. It'd be brilliant to see You attempting that.
Josh didn't use Sunn in Kyuss. Nick did though for his brief stint. Josh does have a Model T that he's used on rare occasions, 1998, 2005, 2010, 2011, but in Kyuss for Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley, it was just a couple of JCM 900s, one running 2 4x12's, and the other an Ampeg 8x10.
@@acarlovonsexron1994 exactly, although I’ve always considered his Tube Works head to be his signature sound, and from what I’ve heard, he did use a Model T in recording the first Queens album (could be wrong but it would fit sound-wise)
One key component that is missing is an octavia/fuzz. He uses that on solos all over the place, Little Sister being the most famous. The drive sounded too dark and muddy for my liking though. This is coming from a long time QotSA fan that has been chasing these tones for years (and never quite getting there!). Most of the core tone comes from tuning to C standard and humbuckers in my experience. Good gear to start with though, that Gretsch sounds pretty good for the money.
Fulltone ultimate octave isn't made anymore but I got my hands on one, and I have an ampeg guitar combo amp. I tried to replicate his sound but then veered away because I found the basis of it. Not muddy, some fuzz but mainly just really loud amp. It's amp power rather than pedals.
I know this is a bit of an old post, but I agree 200%! Especially on the mushy/muddy aspect; here is just way too muffled. Of course it's not a hi-fi tone what we're looking for, but cutting out all the edge out of the amp is just too much (have a similar amp). Got much better results using a russian muff, a bogner wessex od and a clean boost straight into the amp fully cranked using an attenuation box. Also using extra heavy 6th and 5th strings while in Standard C gets you pretty well on the ballpark. I think listening for his sound live is much more convenient than hearing an already mixed and mastered tone that could be a product of an X amount of blends :D
PLEASE READ: If you want Josh Homme's tone from KYUSS, use a BASS AMP with 15 IN. speakers and ACOUSTIC STRINGS. The Bass Amp, Bigger speaker and Acoustic strings with give you a Bass Heavy tone for Doom Metal and Stoner Rock. This also works for the Bass Guitar because that's what early Kyuss Bassists did. Also use a Germanium Fuzz and tune your guitar to C# and below.
+Isaiah Johnson +Isaiah Johnson Early Kyuss was a Marshall JCM 900 into an ampeg 8x10 bass cab I think. Later on he changed the head to a Tubeworks Mosvalve. He used Ampeg amps in early QOTSA. He didn't use a fuzz in kyuss, just an SD-1 super overdrive. Dimarzio Super 2 pickups in his Ovation guitar, neck position, tone rolled off, pickup height lowered.
Well, the SFT does have a gain knob but I believe Josh has used a Fulltone fat boost OD before. Obviously need a fuzz in the chain too; the Fulltone Ultimate Octave, which I believed he uses/used, because it has the octave up effect too for songs like "Little Sister".
Suggestions for next: Brent Hinds/Bill Kelliher - Mastodon Billy Howardel - A Perfect Circle Stephen Carpenter - Deftones Adam Jones - Tool Another great one would be the guitar tone from The Butterfly Effect's first album, Begins Here. It has to be one of the greatest tones of all time.
TheKnifleman If you want to nail Kurt Goedharts sound from the Begins Here album try these. Marshall or Orange AD30amp, Orange or cornford closed back speakers, Boss ph-2 phase , electric mistress, boss giga delay, empress tremolo. Your pretty well set but it's not cheap.
Think you guys are doing a great job because lots of guitar players are just looking for a sound without knowing wich amps and gear to use. It's always a puzzle but you give some good starting advice! Keep up the good work, cheers from the netherlands
I don't want to say I am an expert on this matter but I have heard many people voice complaints over how they can't use other people's music for longer than a few seconds, otherwise they have to pay royalties. Now, it is also important to remember that Rabea just learns everything by ear before doing these. But, you'll notice it's like they don't play anything bit for bit perfect for a reason.
Alrighty man, just trying to help you see a possibility as to why they might not be playing it correctly. But shit, I have heard Mr Anderton and Rob both say, when they were playing with other people's riffs or tones that they couldn't play it spot on or else... One instance is when Rob and his bassist are doing "does it groove" and dave is trying to play stuff like tool without actually sounding like tool and he verbally states that.
He's used so many guitars now. In the self titled early days he used an Ovation Ultra GP which was Ovation's attempt to make an LP copy. It had a maple top with mahogany back with some kind of weird looking humbuckers. Later on he used Epiphone dots a good price point guitar, then got an endorsement from the Australian guitar company Maton. They put out a custom model for him and I think that was also a maple cap, mahogany back sort of like an LP. After that he used a boutique company called Motor Ave 'Belaire' model. That guitar has like 2 year wait and costs some where between $5-6k. During the Them Crooked Vultures era he was switching between all the previously mentioned models and added a fender telecaster to the mix on songs like 'Gunman'. Lastly in more modern QOTSA he's started using Echo Park guitars and I think they're doing a custom model for him on that as well. In Iggy's band he's playing a Burns double six, a jazzmaster and the Belaire. The dude uses a lot of guitars!
He used a ovation ultra GP2 for Rated R, Era Vulgaris and Songs for the deaf and primarily uses vintage ampegs or Marshall’s (sometimes Marshall) He also uses either a Univox superfuzz or a boss OD1/3 Recently he switched to a Maton Ryder guitar but still relies on Ampeg for his amps For KYUSS he used a Marshall Jcm800 head and an ampeg 8x10 cab with a Gibson les Paul custom
Ey! I have a suggestion/question! I'd like to see ya do a "Sound like Billy Corgan" Vid - 90ies era, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie. Really looking for that kinda groovy dist/fuzzy sound, and through watching some demo's of Rob's, i came across the Tonecity Wildfire, which to me sounds like it NAILS that kind of sound - Would you agree? Thinking of placing an order for one through Andertons soon, i just gotta be sure that it's "Right" for what i want.
+Northernmight Billy Corgan/SP - Gish/Siamese Dream = Strat/Les Paul + EHX Big Muff + Marshall JCM 800 2203 + Marshall 1960A cabinet Mix and match any chorus and phase pedals of your choice. Hell, you don't even need to use a Marshall JCM & 1960A cab. I've been able to get the sound with a SS Fender Princeton 65 amp and my Strat thru my EHX Big Muff w/tone wicker (wicker off). I also get his tone through my Orange Dark Terror/Orange PPC212 Open Back Cab with any of my Les Pauls. But the cheapest route is a Fender Strat through an EHX Big Muff into any decent amp of your choice. Of my two Strats, the one that gets me closest to the Smashing Pumpkins is my Fender Deluxe Player's Strat w/rosewood fretboard. Best bang for your buck when it comes to Strats - swamp ash body with all American parts (even the pickups, which are vintage noiseless) assembled in Mexico.
Northernmight Grab a Marshall-voiced amp for starters. Peavey Butchers and VTMs can really nail the sound for under $400 and they're all tube. As for pedals, all you really need is an MXR Phase 90 ($100) and a really good Big Muff style pedal. I say Vick Audio Triangle or Ram's Head does it best for the price ($100). Billy definitely uses amp and pedal distortion, but that really fuzzed out sound from Siamese Dream is all Big Muff
Jones uses a Marshall a Mesa and a Diesel live and even more parallel amps in the studio. other than that its about his style. he also sometimes uses a touch of delay and loves using the volume knob. his tone is all amp and technique. apparently he doesn't like pedals although his live rig tends to have quite a few, probably to get the all the sounds of the albums. Studio its all about carefully blending up to 6 amps in one take.
lukasnieder what ya saying ?..poor people can buy a amp head and not hear it,cuz they've got nothing to plug into it.or poor people get free 4x12 cabs..
trillriff-axegrinder Don't get ya knickers in a twist. Not sure myself how this comment has ended up on this video. This was actually a comment I made on my Facebook page!? I can only put it down to acute sleep-Youtubing. Normality shall be resumed shortly. Have a nice weekend.
That's impossible! He's at a godly level! The only one above him and by far is Kanye West... you know, because he's THE self-proclaimed biggest rockstar in the WORLD! :O
Come on Bea! Do me a solid & make a "sounds like" old school EVH wIth a one pickup Hot rod guitar,a plexi style amp with no master volume & a variac..The tone of the 1st two albums imo is the best guitar sound ever laid to tape & all the gain was from the amp & Eddies fingers "so he says" & if anyone can prove it you can! Lol,you can use an mxr flanger if you want to nail the "aint talkin bout love" tone,otherwise its a cheap guitar & a dimed plexi that will take you to instant eargasm!
***** To be more specific the guitar was made of northern ash and the neck and fingerboard were both maple. The amp was a '74 plexi with everything on 10 and with an MXR phase 90 and an MXR Flanger into the front of the amp with a delay after the amp and a variac set on 89 volts with the amp on the american 120 volts (of course he was american so you guys would have to work that out in England)
catalinbread SFT pedal would save you a lot of trouble... pretty much nails the QOTSA Ampeg flip-top sound out of one pedal. The rest of the variation you can get w/ tone/pickup/right hand.
Great video! You guys rock! Josh Homme also played Matons for awhile and has a signature model. I play a Maton myself and they don't sound like anything else. I think he's been playing Motor Ave guitars lately. He has very unique tones.
Sounds so good! That being said, it’s not quite the Homme sound. He starts off with an old Ampeg bass amp, pushes it with a combo of equalizer pedals that push the mids for natural fuzzy distortion, then a combo of compression equipment(pedals and racks). After that it’s all about putting a few different mics around the cab. One or two in the back of the cab, two right on the sweet spot of the speakers, two out front and a couple around the room. Then you mix it all. Different mixes allow for different tones and gives you a whole world of possibilities. Anyway, you can mirror this process and streamline it at a much lower cost. It’s also important to drop the whole guitar down two steps or even two and a half steps. Not just drop C.
I have always felt like i would like josh homme's music but I havent checked him out much. Turns out we have pretty much the same rig. Definitely going to have a listen now!
I actually was mucking around with my rig trying to find a QOTSA tone and found that I only needed one pedal; Wildfire by Tone City. and all I did was flick the switch down max the gain and play it through my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe with the bass backed off a bit, the mids all the way up and the treble at twelve. it sounded almost perfect. Oh and I was using the Rhythm pickup on my Les Paul with the tone a about halfway on the guitar.
JoBoxD69 Just get you a Zvex Fuzz Factory, and you're VERY close to Matts sound. It's one of the pedals built in his guitar, like the cool sound in "Plug in baby"
Gretsch electromatic guitars are the unsung heroes of the guitar world, I have a G5441T double jet in firebird red and its a blast, its something very different and it sounds like nothing else
sandman sevenseven although he wasnt convicted of being a pedo and plus ive never classed him as overrated, theres plenty of guitarist that people proper brown nose too fuck that id class as overrated
Kinda nailed the "songs for the deaf" sound though, appreciate that whatever guy u are tryin to sound like is at least a specific time or era of the respective artists tone, well played😁!!
I think you should have gone for an Epiphone dot, it was an obvious choice ! No fuzz on the Fuzz Face ? No octave up with the fuzz ? No fixed-wah type filter with the Fuzz ? Come on you guys, you could have done way better with three pedals. Much love for doing him though
Ok. Homme says never try to be anyone than yourself, might mean - do not try to sound like anyone than yourself. Whatever - these are awesome tips and good advises for those who love these sounds and do not know where to start at. Thanks!
Has has two pogs a harmonist a tuner then various fuzzs and distortions along with a reverb and a delay. But the really price comes from the three amps he uses aha.
He actually doesn’t play a bass amp, apart from the Ampeg bass cab he used to use in combination with either a JCM900 (I think?), Tube Works RT2100, or supposedly a Sunn Model T on the first QOTSA album
I think that the J H tone can be achived by playing a guitar with low to medium outpuck pickups, put on 11's or 12 gauge strings and tune down to C standard, throught a all dry cranked amp with lot's and lot's of mids. And then a Q-zone pedal to spice up the leads and get that throaty tone, and a slap back delay aswell...
Great videos guys, love them, very informative but you guys need to do one specifically on Kyuss! I know y'all did one on Homme but that was very QOTSA(still kicking that yall didn't play No One Knows or anything off Era Vulgaris!), nothing from Kyuss at least. Gotta admit that Kyuss has one of the most iconic tones, especially off Welcome To Sky Valley's Gardenia and Demon Cleaner and Green Machine and Thumb off Blues For The Red Sun. Please do consider it! Thank you!
Just discovered the Channel. I LOVE IT! How about a "Sound Like Kyuss...Without Breaking the Bank". You could go to a yard sale or a flea market, find an old bass amp, Slice some slits in the cone with a razor blade, Take out the treble, crank the bass up, run an old analog overdrive pedal, a flange or phaser through some humbuckers with .56 strings tuned in drop C. Shake the Earth! Good job with the vids. Love Anderton's TV.
If someone has already mentioned this please forgive me, but they are using three fuzz/gain type pedals to achieve what your tone pot on your guitar can do. Josh Homme is amazing so I'm not discounting his playing when I say his tone is just Clapton woman tone with more fizz. Try this combination at home. A small practice amp An MXR distortion + a guitar with hum buckers and tone control Keep everything on the amp at 12 o'clock and on clean channel at bedroom volume. Bring in the MXR Dist + Push the output to about 2 o'clock and the distortion to about 3-4. Keep your bridge pickup tone all the way up with bit of volume pulled back. Put your Neck pickup Volume all the way up and your tone pulled back a quarter turn. play everything (especially rythm parts) on neck pick up. Some rythm parts on bridge (start of millionaire) and then to go big switch over to neck pick up. Les Pauls are actually really good at getting a JH tone, Sustain makes things big. I'm not a pro or an expert or even a decent guitarist. so take all that with a grain of salt. But at least give it a try. Dist + pedals are like $40 on ebay secondhand and everyone on this thread has a hum bucker guitar and a practice amp.
I like to use a big muff bass fuzz pedal and turn up the mids and bass all the way on amp with almost no treble and go neck position on my epiphone dot studio neck pickup. That seems to get pretty close for me. I think the secret lies in the mids
You need a vintage Peavey solid-state amp like a Century or a Musician and a vintage Ampeg tube amp blended with a vintage style distortion pedal like an MXR distortion+ or something similar in front. Then you boost the fuck outta the mids. Most of the fuzz is coming from the Peaveys. It's a very unique fuzz circuit that all the old Peavey solid states had. The Century, the Musician, and the Mark iii Centurion all had it.
Teodor Molander Check out gilmourish.com! The dude who runs it has been obsessed with DG's tone for a solid 20-30 years and has all of his gear, settings, and even buyers guide for gear that sounds cool and works for gilmour styled tones at any price range. He even has a section specifically for DG tones on a budget!
TimothyPage06 yeah, i have seen that one, really cool site! The guy seems very into his Gilmour stuff indeed. I just wanted to see what Bea and Matt would come up with :P
On the opening to Millionaire, Josh has a wah kicked on and cocked down to the bass side to get that sound with his fuzz... Plenty of live clips showing this.... Unless it makes more sense to you to use three fuzz pedals- I'd say give that a go ;) Ty...
HolyGabber Almost True, I think battery acid is in drop D, also a few vultures songs are in Drop A, I know that some songs are also in open G(or some variant), for both QOTSA and Vultures :)
Cool video indeed! One bit of critique I have perhaps for the budget at least is that the tone you achieve is really cool but from my experience a really fantastic pedal and one used by Homme himself is the Fulltone Ultimate Octave. I've used one of one of my videos paired with a Way Huge Green Rhino Clone (amazing pedals) and they have a fantastic fuzz, from sticky to sludge and everything in between. Great vid and it's always great to see how other people play songs. :)
That's literally just a fender telecaster/12-string Rickenbacker/Les Paul (mostly tele though) going into a Fender Vibroverb for cleans, and Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier for driven sounds. That's what he did live at least, as far as I know.
+Jake Wild yeah but we like to see them do it, I know exactly what dimebag Darrel uses buy I was so happy when they did it, plus I'm only a teenager with a budget that I get from gigging and ATM I'm saving for a 69" custom shop strat and that rig is quite expensive
Oh yeah of course I always forget that there's a budget on these videos! If I were you I'd probably go for a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, it's got decent cleans and a lot of gain and is channel-switchable.
Umm...yeah, not really. Close but no cigar. The Green Rhino alone was close. The rest was just mud city. The single note stuff sounded damn cool, but still too muddy. Whatever Josh is using is a mystery, I havent seen anyone who has figured it out yet. I suspect it has alot to do with the amp(s) he is using.
MrTommyTownshend He doesn't use many drive or fuzz pedals (that we know of anyway) there's only really the fulltone ultimate octave for Lullabies to Paralyze and Them Crooked Vultures and boost pedals like the ZVex super hard on (which actually broke during recording SFTD and Homme's guitar tech Dan Druff was pretty pissed about it) or a Boss boost of some sort (I'm not familiar with Boss clean boosts)
***** He used a peavey in Kyuss. And the Ampeg he uses is not a bass amp, it's a guitar combo but it is rigged with bass cab speakers. Ampeg VT40, I have one and it sounds great.
Anyone looking for QOTSA tone should try a Joyo Ultimate Octave and do the cap mod where you swap the two capacitors around, sounds great for the little sister lead tone.
nobody ever mentions kyuss when talking about josh homme...
Private Joker I do. Heaps. I’d love a Sound Like Kyuss!
kyuss are just as good as qotsa in my opinion
better than queens riff wise for sure
To me Kyuss is the real Garcia / Homme's stoner deal before QOTSA prostituted it to pop.
Love QOTSA though, as a stoner/pop style, but if I need the guts I'll always go for Kyuss.
Or Clutch. ^^
The kyuss tone was gorgeous and unique
Eric Valentine (engineer on 'Songs for the Deaf') has a great vid going in-depth as to how he achieved Josh's tones on that album. There's a lot more going on besides a few pedals.
As a little challenge for you guys, you could try and get a rig going where you sound like as many musicians as possible, so you could get a very versatile set up where you can sound like many guitarists!
isthisbetterYT? That's a rather good idea...
isthisbetterYT? Sound Like Everyone Without Breaking The Bank
Cheap option is a Line 6 amp with a LP style guitar and a Strat. That covers a pretty nice chunk of signature sounds. Line 6 sound pretty sterile to my ears though, but some people swear by them. Check out a 75 watt Line 6 Spider. The expensive option is probably the Kemper amp or maybe the Eleven Rack?
Patrick Meehan the line 6 dt-20 or dt-50 is a tube amp and it integrates with the pod 500,and from what ive seen its miles above and beyond the jar of bees the line6 spiders are line6's cheaper option.
they make gear for everyone now,not just the insane gain crowd
isthisbetterYT? or hows about you sound like yourself and learn to write songs
Besides every riff being played wrong, that sounds pretty close. The thing is that he just has so much tonal variety that its impossible to nail it down.
Hahah, sorry man I don't know how he plays them, I worked them out by ear just before filming these videos, so I've no idea what is actually played
***** No worries! They were close enough.
Jake Hoffman I wouldnt say he played them wrong, he was just using the wrong tuning. He should be in c standard, not drop c. But othwerwise I find this sounds pretty close without using all the boutique and rare gear JH uses
***** You've done a great job, but you always forget the cab as far as the whole "without busting the bank" part.
learning how to play QOTSA is not the goal of the video... get over it...
Gotta say that you guys are killing it with this Sounds Like ..Without Busting The Bank series. Good work!
Ozzy Pete Cheers man! :-)
Thanks man, glad you like them!
Sounds like "Sleep" without busting the bank ,that would be an interesting video.
Josh's sound is so much brighter.
If that's still an option, I'd love to see 'Sounds like Josh Homme'... BUT in his Kyuss days. That rig was so awesome and sound so unique. As far as I know he did the reverse thing of what the Royal Blood guy did - he plugged his guitar into bass rig and rocked the desert that way. It'd be brilliant to see You attempting that.
+dziwic Problem is, he used old Sunn amps, and there aren't really amps around that sound like those old Sunns, they were a breed of their own.
Josh didn't use Sunn in Kyuss. Nick did though for his brief stint. Josh does have a Model T that he's used on rare occasions, 1998, 2005, 2010, 2011, but in Kyuss for Blues for the Red Sun and Welcome to Sky Valley, it was just a couple of JCM 900s, one running 2 4x12's, and the other an Ampeg 8x10.
Just roll your tone knob all the way back, cover your amp with a blanket, and crank the gain.
@@acarlovonsexron1994 exactly, although I’ve always considered his Tube Works head to be his signature sound, and from what I’ve heard, he did use a Model T in recording the first Queens album (could be wrong but it would fit sound-wise)
One key component that is missing is an octavia/fuzz. He uses that on solos all over the place, Little Sister being the most famous. The drive sounded too dark and muddy for my liking though. This is coming from a long time QotSA fan that has been chasing these tones for years (and never quite getting there!). Most of the core tone comes from tuning to C standard and humbuckers in my experience.
Good gear to start with though, that Gretsch sounds pretty good for the money.
Tom's Green Mind agree 100%!
Tom's Green Mind Mhmm it's missing the fulltone ultimate octave but I don't think that's made anymore
Fulltone ultimate octave isn't made anymore but I got my hands on one, and I have an ampeg guitar combo amp. I tried to replicate his sound but then veered away because I found the basis of it. Not muddy, some fuzz but mainly just really loud amp. It's amp power rather than pedals.
I know this is a bit of an old post, but I agree 200%! Especially on the mushy/muddy aspect; here is just way too muffled. Of course it's not a hi-fi tone what we're looking for, but cutting out all the edge out of the amp is just too much (have a similar amp). Got much better results using a russian muff, a bogner wessex od and a clean boost straight into the amp fully cranked using an attenuation box. Also using extra heavy 6th and 5th strings while in Standard C gets you pretty well on the ballpark. I think listening for his sound live is much more convenient than hearing an already mixed and mastered tone that could be a product of an X amount of blends :D
VOX Trike is my go-to for Little Sister. Caroline Olympia with a Micro Pog also works.
I still find this difficult to not picture Vincent Van Gogh when I look at Matt. Killer vid!
PLEASE READ: If you want Josh Homme's tone from KYUSS, use a BASS AMP with 15 IN. speakers and ACOUSTIC STRINGS. The Bass Amp, Bigger speaker and Acoustic strings with give you a Bass Heavy tone for Doom Metal and Stoner Rock. This also works for the Bass Guitar because that's what early Kyuss Bassists did. Also use a Germanium Fuzz and tune your guitar to C# and below.
+Isaiah Johnson He used a Marshall JCM 900 in Kyuss. =S
I heard at one point in Kyuss that he used an Ampeg half stack.
He's always used Ampeg cabs, and now he uses an Ampeg vt-40 or 22.
+Isaiah Johnson +Isaiah Johnson Early Kyuss was a Marshall JCM 900 into an ampeg 8x10 bass cab I think. Later on he changed the head to a Tubeworks Mosvalve. He used Ampeg amps in early QOTSA. He didn't use a fuzz in kyuss, just an SD-1 super overdrive. Dimarzio Super 2 pickups in his Ovation guitar, neck position, tone rolled off, pickup height lowered.
Justinm1789 Bingo
Catalinbread SFT to simulate Josh's straight up amp tone would have caused a lot less hassle
Well, the SFT does have a gain knob but I believe Josh has used a Fulltone fat boost OD before. Obviously need a fuzz in the chain too; the Fulltone Ultimate Octave, which I believed he uses/used, because it has the octave up effect too for songs like "Little Sister".
Yeah, there's a couple out there that have the footswitch to engage/disengage the octave on the fuzz but Fulltone do some great stuff!
The Catlinbread SFT and the EHX Soul Food. Boom.
@@jmanitowabi Baby!
@@bendrowe EQD Hoof Reaper would do it. For $400...
Suggestions for next:
Brent Hinds/Bill Kelliher - Mastodon
Billy Howardel - A Perfect Circle
Stephen Carpenter - Deftones
Adam Jones - Tool
Another great one would be the guitar tone from The Butterfly Effect's first album, Begins Here. It has to be one of the greatest tones of all time.
These are literally the best suggestions
TheKnifleman If you want to nail Kurt Goedharts sound from the Begins Here album try these. Marshall or Orange AD30amp, Orange or cornford closed back speakers, Boss ph-2 phase , electric mistress, boss giga delay, empress tremolo. Your pretty well set but it's not cheap.
Think you guys are doing a great job because lots of guitar players are just looking for a sound without knowing wich amps and gear to use. It's always a puzzle but you give some good starting advice! Keep up the good work, cheers from the netherlands
It really grinds my gears to see him missplay that Song for the Dead Riff over and over and over and over and over again.
Btw - don't wanna take away anything from you guys here. Good guitarist, and the series is really cool so don't get me wrong there. ;)
+Christian Boeckh they don't want to get flagged I guess
If they play the riffs bit for bit, they could have copyright issues.
I don't want to say I am an expert on this matter but I have heard many people voice complaints over how they can't use other people's music for longer than a few seconds, otherwise they have to pay royalties. Now, it is also important to remember that Rabea just learns everything by ear before doing these. But, you'll notice it's like they don't play anything bit for bit perfect for a reason.
Alrighty man, just trying to help you see a possibility as to why they might not be playing it correctly. But shit, I have heard Mr Anderton and Rob both say, when they were playing with other people's riffs or tones that they couldn't play it spot on or else... One instance is when Rob and his bassist are doing "does it groove" and dave is trying to play stuff like tool without actually sounding like tool and he verbally states that.
Honestly I just think this is an awesome series. Keep em coming and cheers guys
He's used so many guitars now. In the self titled early days he used an Ovation Ultra GP which was Ovation's attempt to make an LP copy. It had a maple top with mahogany back with some kind of weird looking humbuckers. Later on he used Epiphone dots a good price point guitar, then got an endorsement from the Australian guitar company Maton. They put out a custom model for him and I think that was also a maple cap, mahogany back sort of like an LP. After that he used a boutique company called Motor Ave 'Belaire' model. That guitar has like 2 year wait and costs some where between $5-6k. During the Them Crooked Vultures era he was switching between all the previously mentioned models and added a fender telecaster to the mix on songs like 'Gunman'. Lastly in more modern QOTSA he's started using Echo Park guitars and I think they're doing a custom model for him on that as well. In Iggy's band he's playing a Burns double six, a jazzmaster and the Belaire. The dude uses a lot of guitars!
BlownSpeakerGospel The Josh homme signature Maton is Victorian Blackwood ..
Also played an Ovation Viper at the very first QOTSA gig in 97
This is my new fav youtube series honestly.
***** Cheers dude!
Josh has my favorite tone of all players out there right now. It's instant heavy.
Love Josh Homme's tone great vid Matt and Bea cheers
First step towards sounding like Josh Homme is:
1. Don't own a Les Paul guitar.
or any popular guitar lol. secret to sound
They didn't even get a semi-hollow. Found it surprising that they said the Les Paul solid-body looks like what he plays.
Matons are very popular here...
***** homme can make a first act guitar from toys r us sound like a million dollars
+Christopher Thomas they used a gretsch not a led paul
He used a ovation ultra GP2 for Rated R, Era Vulgaris and Songs for the deaf and primarily uses vintage ampegs or Marshall’s (sometimes Marshall)
He also uses either a Univox superfuzz or a boss OD1/3
Recently he switched to a Maton Ryder guitar but still relies on Ampeg for his amps
For KYUSS he used a Marshall Jcm800 head and an ampeg 8x10 cab with a Gibson les Paul custom
He also famously uses a telecaster
Ey! I have a suggestion/question! I'd like to see ya do a "Sound like Billy Corgan" Vid - 90ies era, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie.
Really looking for that kinda groovy dist/fuzzy sound, and through watching some demo's of Rob's, i came across the Tonecity Wildfire, which to me sounds like it NAILS that kind of sound - Would you agree? Thinking of placing an order for one through Andertons soon, i just gotta be sure that it's "Right" for what i want.
Northernmight Billy Corgan or Jack White and I'd be happy.
+Northernmight Billy Corgan/SP - Gish/Siamese Dream = Strat/Les Paul + EHX Big Muff + Marshall JCM 800 2203 + Marshall 1960A cabinet
Mix and match any chorus and phase pedals of your choice. Hell, you don't even need to use a Marshall JCM & 1960A cab. I've been able to get the sound with a SS Fender Princeton 65 amp and my Strat thru my EHX Big Muff w/tone wicker (wicker off). I also get his tone through my Orange Dark Terror/Orange PPC212 Open Back Cab with any of my Les Pauls.
But the cheapest route is a Fender Strat through an EHX Big Muff into any decent amp of your choice. Of my two Strats, the one that gets me closest to the Smashing Pumpkins is my Fender Deluxe Player's Strat w/rosewood fretboard. Best bang for your buck when it comes to Strats - swamp ash body with all American parts (even the pickups, which are vintage noiseless) assembled in Mexico.
Northernmight Grab a Marshall-voiced amp for starters. Peavey Butchers and VTMs can really nail the sound for under $400 and they're all tube. As for pedals, all you really need is an MXR Phase 90 ($100) and a really good Big Muff style pedal. I say Vick Audio Triangle or Ram's Head does it best for the price ($100). Billy definitely uses amp and pedal distortion, but that really fuzzed out sound from Siamese Dream is all Big Muff
Billy Corgan doesn't even know how to get that sound.
Ha yeah, it's about 100 guitar overdubs but the main gist is a big muff turned up to 12,1, and 6 o clock :)
Brilliant. One of the best musicians out there.
You guys should do a "sound like Adam Jones" from Tool, because he has a really good tone that's quite hard to nail!
Jelmar De Kievit Indeed!!!
Jelmar De Kievit I second that!
Jelmar De Kievit
I want this too please!
Jelmar De Kievit Yeah! Jones seems to use a couple of amps and feedback to get his huge tones. Not the easiest sounds to nail - go for it!
Jones uses a Marshall a Mesa and a Diesel live and even more parallel amps in the studio. other than that its about his style. he also sometimes uses a touch of delay and loves using the volume knob. his tone is all amp and technique. apparently he doesn't like pedals although his live rig tends to have quite a few, probably to get the all the sounds of the albums. Studio its all about carefully blending up to 6 amps in one take.
this hands down the best sounds like video you guys have done.
What's the point of a budget,when ya just give yourself a free 4x12 lol...
Good point!
vhenry75 so poorer people can buy these things
lukasnieder what ya saying ?..poor people can buy a amp head and not hear it,cuz they've got nothing to plug into it.or poor people get free 4x12 cabs..
these videos are great, you guys always do a good job. keep it up
It sounds wicked!
Next do Rory Gallagher pls
Yes this!
Miguel Fernandes Hell yeah!
Robert Harrison Ummmm, I'm not sure we watched the same video...
Robert Harrison wtf,wrong video idiot,bye
trillriff-axegrinder Don't get ya knickers in a twist. Not sure myself how this comment has ended up on this video. This was actually a comment I made on my Facebook page!? I can only put it down to acute sleep-Youtubing. Normality shall be resumed shortly. Have a nice weekend.
that was so wicked. love the video. thank you for helping with the rig
Do 'sound like lil wayne' if you can handle is advanced technique.......
Green Pretzel impossible.
Just don't dislocate your thumb trying..
That's impossible! He's at a godly level! The only one above him and by far is Kanye West... you know, because he's THE self-proclaimed biggest rockstar in the WORLD! :O
Oh indeed
+Green Pretzel I don't know man.. the tone is all in his fingers. They might get frustrated by their inability to replicate those sweet sounds.
Best TH-cam series!! Don't ever stop
Cheers, from Whistler Canada
Come on Bea! Do me a solid & make a "sounds like" old school EVH wIth a one pickup Hot rod guitar,a plexi style amp with no master volume & a variac..The tone of the 1st two albums imo is the best guitar sound ever laid to tape & all the gain was from the amp & Eddies fingers "so he says" & if anyone can prove it you can! Lol,you can use an mxr flanger if you want to nail the "aint talkin bout love" tone,otherwise its a cheap guitar & a dimed plexi that will take you to instant eargasm!
***** To be more specific the guitar was made of northern ash and the neck and fingerboard were both maple. The amp was a '74 plexi with everything on 10 and with an MXR phase 90 and an MXR Flanger into the front of the amp with a delay after the amp and a variac set on 89 volts with the amp on the american 120 volts (of course he was american so you guys would have to work that out in England)
JKGuitar100 190-200V roughly.
***** please please pretty please do this
This is a great budget-friendly Homme tutorial. Josh Homme uses some crazy expensive gear, so this is a good, inexpensive replica.
Sound like Kyuss-era Josh Homme.
As a huge QOTSA fan, y'all did a bang up job. Love me some Homme.
Shoulda thrown in an eq and boosted 250-500 hz range.
That and any one of those pedals with the orange would do it probably
I love watching these even for bands I don't particularly like. Great stuff!
catalinbread SFT pedal would save you a lot of trouble... pretty much nails the QOTSA Ampeg flip-top sound out of one pedal. The rest of the variation you can get w/ tone/pickup/right hand.
The little laugh rabbea does after he says its in drop c is adorable
A Hagstron Super Swede would do the job pretty well. See demos by Andy, from Proguitarshop.
Great video! You guys rock! Josh Homme also played Matons for awhile and has a signature model. I play a Maton myself and they don't sound like anything else. I think he's been playing Motor Ave guitars lately. He has very unique tones.
Awesome stuff👍 love that songs for the deaf album especially go with the flow. I'd be up for a sounds like rory Gallagher or philip sayce next time
Sounds so good!
That being said, it’s not quite the Homme sound.
He starts off with an old Ampeg bass amp, pushes it with a combo of equalizer pedals that push the mids for natural fuzzy distortion, then a combo of compression equipment(pedals and racks). After that it’s all about putting a few different mics around the cab. One or two in the back of the cab, two right on the sweet spot of the speakers, two out front and a couple around the room. Then you mix it all. Different mixes allow for different tones and gives you a whole world of possibilities.
Anyway, you can mirror this process and streamline it at a much lower cost.
It’s also important to drop the whole guitar down two steps or even two and a half steps. Not just drop C.
Josh Homme uses C standard, not Drop C. It may not be a huge difference, just wanted to throw it out there.
Drake Tillman Big difference for sure
Theres a lot of qotsa songs in drop
I have always felt like i would like josh homme's music but I havent checked him out much. Turns out we have pretty much the same rig. Definitely going to have a listen now!
+Austin Humphrey DO IT! You won't be disappointed, all of his projects are fantastic.
Please do Johnny Marr! One of the best guitarists of his generation.
Just use a compressor, reverb, a cheeky bit of tremolo, and be a god
Great videos guys ! Thanks for making them !!
I think that some of the songs on Songs for the Deaf were down tuned to I think C Standard
all of them all the time
+Richard Coward Cool, thanks. I guess that does make sense, I always thought that No One Knows was in Drop C
haha nah they use power chords n stuff, no one knows is a fun one to play. dude in the videos in the wrong tuning as well .
Andrew Pappas josh is never in e standard
Ali G There's songs where he is though
I actually was mucking around with my rig trying to find a QOTSA tone and found that I only needed one pedal; Wildfire by Tone City. and all I did was flick the switch down max the gain and play it through my Fender Hot Rod Deluxe with the bass backed off a bit, the mids all the way up and the treble at twelve. it sounded almost perfect. Oh and I was using the Rhythm pickup on my Les Paul with the tone a about halfway on the guitar.
Do Brian May or Matthew Bellamy
Rob and lee did a sound alike on Brian May tho
JoBoxD69 ill second matt bellamy, hes got a really sweet live sound
JoBoxD69 Just get you a Zvex Fuzz Factory, and you're VERY close to Matts sound. It's one of the pedals built in his guitar, like the cool sound in "Plug in baby"
Gretsch electromatic guitars are the unsung heroes of the guitar world, I have a G5441T double jet in firebird red and its a blast, its something very different and it sounds like nothing else
a vid on how to sound like Pete Townsend would be cool
That would be amazing.
That would be amazing.
yep
This! A thousand times over!
sandman sevenseven although he wasnt convicted of being a pedo and plus ive never classed him as overrated, theres plenty of guitarist that people proper brown nose too fuck that id class as overrated
Kinda nailed the "songs for the deaf" sound though, appreciate that whatever guy u are tryin to sound like is at least a specific time or era of the respective artists tone, well played😁!!
HOW TO SOUND LIKE TAME IMPALA?KEVIN PARKER!!!
Yeahh
£100,000 on peddles
MmmHmm Phaser, reverb, delay
+MESSIAH and a gnarly overdrive or fuzz for some of the heavier songs like elephant.
YYYEEESSSS
When you do "sonds like muse"....yes (i know you will)....the Green Rhino its a good option for that particular rig
I think you should have gone for an Epiphone dot, it was an obvious choice ! No fuzz on the Fuzz Face ? No octave up with the fuzz ? No fixed-wah type filter with the Fuzz ? Come on you guys, you could have done way better with three pedals.
Much love for doing him though
I thought we got the sound pretty close, it's weird dialing in tones in the room, sounds different through the mics
The youtube sound compression might have something to do with it too i guess
Ok. Homme says never try to be anyone than yourself, might mean - do not try to sound like anyone than yourself. Whatever - these are awesome tips and good advises for those who love these sounds and do not know where to start at. Thanks!
Try and replicate Royal Blood's rig and tone!
Brown Noize Well a Starcaster bass is already super budget friendly, so that bit's easy.
James Guvercin Micro POG and a drive/distortion/fuzz would get you close. He uses Boss pedals; fairly sure; which are definitely affordable.
Has has two pogs a harmonist a tuner then various fuzzs and distortions along with a reverb and a delay. But the really price comes from the three amps he uses aha.
Brown Noize
But he's just done a "how to imitate QOTSA" video.
;)
This is amazing, thank you! Shall be getting my hands on a Green Rhino!
Why are they playing Song for the Dead wrong?
Mark Jones right?
Dylon Boyer like seriously. If their such big fans, they should learn how to play the riffs correctly!
To avoid copyright strikes or problems
No that's not it.
Then what is it if it's not to avoid possible copyright claims?
Sweet!
thanks a lot for this guys!
You're missing the bass amp.
It's horribly noticeable too
He actually doesn’t play a bass amp, apart from the Ampeg bass cab he used to use in combination with either a JCM900 (I think?), Tube Works RT2100, or supposedly a Sunn Model T on the first QOTSA album
I think that the J H tone can be achived by playing a guitar with low to medium outpuck pickups, put on 11's or 12 gauge strings and tune down to C standard, throught a all dry cranked amp with lot's and lot's of mids. And then a Q-zone pedal to spice up the leads and get that throaty tone, and a slap back delay aswell...
ITS TIME FOR KEVIN PARKER!!!!
Lars Andersson aren't you the greenwood cover lad? Sick covers
Bravo! Well done, gents!
Josh Homme's tone sounds like something exploding in an Atari game.
Great videos guys, love them, very informative but you guys need to do one specifically on Kyuss! I know y'all did one on Homme but that was very QOTSA(still kicking that yall didn't play No One Knows or anything off Era Vulgaris!), nothing from Kyuss at least.
Gotta admit that Kyuss has one of the most iconic tones, especially off Welcome To Sky Valley's Gardenia and Demon Cleaner and Green Machine and Thumb off Blues For The Red Sun.
Please do consider it! Thank you!
An Ovation GP, an Ampeg VT-40, or V-4 (bass amp) and a Matchless Hotbox pedal.
Sound like:
Matt Bellamy
Tom Morello
Kurt Cobain
Billy Corgan
Joey Santiago
David Gilmour
Tony Iommi
Hendrix
John Frusciante
Just discovered the Channel. I LOVE IT! How about a "Sound Like Kyuss...Without Breaking the Bank". You could go to a yard sale or a flea market, find an old bass amp, Slice some slits in the cone with a razor blade, Take out the treble, crank the bass up, run an old analog overdrive pedal, a flange or phaser through some humbuckers with .56 strings tuned in drop C. Shake the Earth! Good job with the vids. Love Anderton's TV.
i think it sounds sick with just the green rhino
+Brendan Statham same here, sounds wicked
Where's all the midrange? The midrange boost on the QOTSA guitars is mental and that's what helps give it its distinctive tone.
Johnny marr video!!
I'm diggin' these "sound like" vids, keep ém coming
How to sound like Kyuss, now there's a challenge
Scooped and Cranked Ampeg
If someone has already mentioned this please forgive me, but they are using three fuzz/gain type pedals to achieve what your tone pot on your guitar can do. Josh Homme is amazing so I'm not discounting his playing when I say his tone is just Clapton woman tone with more fizz. Try this combination at home.
A small practice amp
An MXR distortion +
a guitar with hum buckers and tone control
Keep everything on the amp at 12 o'clock and on clean channel at bedroom volume. Bring in the MXR Dist + Push the output to about 2 o'clock and the distortion to about 3-4. Keep your bridge pickup tone all the way up with bit of volume pulled back. Put your Neck pickup Volume all the way up and your tone pulled back a quarter turn. play everything (especially rythm parts) on neck pick up. Some rythm parts on bridge (start of millionaire) and then to go big switch over to neck pick up.
Les Pauls are actually really good at getting a JH tone, Sustain makes things big. I'm not a pro or an expert or even a decent guitarist. so take all that with a grain of salt. But at least give it a try. Dist + pedals are like $40 on ebay secondhand and everyone on this thread has a hum bucker guitar and a practice amp.
YOU DIDN'T DO THE 'NO ONE KNOWS' SOLO!?!?!?!?!?!
OMG how could you Bea. The dream is dead...
Hahah I'm so sorry man, I'll do it another time I promise
+Rabea Massaad One month later.
+Rabea Massaad yup still waiting ^^
+Rabea Massaad Come back another day ... and do no wrong !!! ;-)
+Travis Godfrey Evans seven
It's a Gretsch Pro Jet from the Electromatic series. Electromatic covers all the non-US made Gretsch electrics.
*plays in drop c not c standard
*doesnt use catalinbread sft
*plays one song right
*think they nailed the sound
no kyuss either
+bigfish0184 yea no kyuss no homme
catalinbread is bae
I know others have asked for this already, but PLEASE do Josh Homme by busting the bank. Much appreciated.
Guys, I think it's time for an episode on How to Sound Like Josh Homme BY Bustin the Bank.
I like to use a big muff bass fuzz pedal and turn up the mids and bass all the way on amp with almost no treble and go neck position on my epiphone dot studio neck pickup. That seems to get pretty close for me. I think the secret lies in the mids
Bea I want to here you guys do Tool, and A Perfect Circle.
You need a vintage Peavey solid-state amp like a Century or a Musician and a vintage Ampeg tube amp blended with a vintage style distortion pedal like an MXR distortion+ or something similar in front. Then you boost the fuck outta the mids. Most of the fuzz is coming from the Peaveys. It's a very unique fuzz circuit that all the old Peavey solid states had. The Century, the Musician, and the Mark iii Centurion all had it.
The challenge; sound like David Gillmour
Teodor Molander yes please
Teodor Molander Strat > Big Muff Pi > British amp of some description will get you halfway there. The rest is in your fingers :D
Teodor Molander Check out gilmourish.com! The dude who runs it has been obsessed with DG's tone for a solid 20-30 years and has all of his gear, settings, and even buyers guide for gear that sounds cool and works for gilmour styled tones at any price range. He even has a section specifically for DG tones on a budget!
TimothyPage06 yeah, i have seen that one, really cool site! The guy seems very into his Gilmour stuff indeed. I just wanted to see what Bea and Matt would come up with :P
1) Be insanely rich
2) See 1)
On the opening to Millionaire, Josh has a wah kicked on and cocked down to the bass side to get that sound with his fuzz... Plenty of live clips showing this.... Unless it makes more sense to you to use three fuzz pedals- I'd say give that a go ;) Ty...
Cool video. But Josh use C standart tuning and E standart. QOTSA dosn't use any drop tuning.
HolyGabber Almost True, I think battery acid is in drop D, also a few vultures songs are in Drop A, I know that some songs are also in open G(or some variant), for both QOTSA and Vultures :)
+HolyGabber Eb tuning as well..
Nice work guys!
Sound like Tony Iommi?
They recently did a Sound Like Black Sabbath
Cool video indeed! One bit of critique I have perhaps for the budget at least is that the tone you achieve is really cool but from my experience a really fantastic pedal and one used by Homme himself is the Fulltone Ultimate Octave. I've used one of one of my videos paired with a Way Huge Green Rhino Clone (amazing pedals) and they have a fantastic fuzz, from sticky to sludge and everything in between.
Great vid and it's always great to see how other people play songs. :)
Do the Black Angels
Songs:
Phoshene Dream
Black Grease
Indigo Meadow
You guys aren't aware of the Gretsch tone switch of death. It's super Muddy because you have it switched all the way down.
It's time to do Tame Impala/Kevin Parker
Andertons Music Co sounds wicked guys!! I think Adam Jones is next.. No brainer. Iconic tones, classic rig.
Can you do a Jeff Buckley sound like :)
YESSSSSSS
That's literally just a fender telecaster/12-string Rickenbacker/Les Paul (mostly tele though) going into a Fender Vibroverb for cleans, and Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier for driven sounds. That's what he did live at least, as far as I know.
+Jake Wild yeah but we like to see them do it, I know exactly what dimebag Darrel uses buy I was so happy when they did it, plus I'm only a teenager with a budget that I get from gigging and ATM I'm saving for a 69" custom shop strat and that rig is quite expensive
Oh yeah of course I always forget that there's a budget on these videos! If I were you I'd probably go for a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe, it's got decent cleans and a lot of gain and is channel-switchable.
Jeffs main tele, with the mirror pickguard, im pretty sure was a MIM too
Please Do a by busting for this one?
Umm...yeah, not really. Close but no cigar. The Green Rhino alone was close. The rest was just mud city. The single note stuff sounded damn cool, but still too muddy. Whatever Josh is using is a mystery, I havent seen anyone who has figured it out yet. I suspect it has alot to do with the amp(s) he is using.
MrTommyTownshend He doesn't use many drive or fuzz pedals (that we know of anyway) there's only really the fulltone ultimate octave for Lullabies to Paralyze and Them Crooked Vultures and boost pedals like the ZVex super hard on (which actually broke during recording SFTD and Homme's guitar tech Dan Druff was pretty pissed about it) or a Boss boost of some sort (I'm not familiar with Boss clean boosts)
But this isn't 'sound like Josh Homme' it's 'sound like mud'
***** He used a peavey in Kyuss. And the Ampeg he uses is not a bass amp, it's a guitar combo but it is rigged with bass cab speakers. Ampeg VT40, I have one and it sounds great.
+Jérémie Chalifour-Forget Homme uses a 6x10 Ampeg bass cab and whatever guitar head unit he decides to use at the time.
Anyone looking for QOTSA tone should try a Joyo Ultimate Octave and do the cap mod where you swap the two capacitors around, sounds great for the little sister lead tone.
Do a bass one, and do sound like Royal Blood
Finally. Now we're talking!