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This is one of the most fun reviews I have watched of my game! You are the first person to call the people "Flesh"... I think I'll start doing that in all my future plays :-D
Dennis! My girlfriend bought me Beyond the Sun for Christmas and I have since then fallen in love with this game. Such an excellent design! I look forward to any other games/expansions you might cook up in the future!
I am in the Boston Game Makers Guild with Dennis and it’s a huge thrill to see his game getting such great reviews! Glad y’all thought so highly of it. Plus: Interstellar was great!
Yeah... I get you need to explain it to the audience but they should've done it back on Earth at Nasa, have them explain it to Murph who gets confused about wormholes or something.
Hey great review thank you! You are the perfect people to review the Phil Eklund games or especially "High frontier (4 all)" since there is not really a review about this on the internet and you shown yourselfs that you are able to explain even the most complicated board games (talking about your video on the 18xx genre). This is why I would be super interested in your take on this simulation game especially since the new edition is "4 all" :D
Really enjoyed this one. Only played 2-p, so I’m stoked to try it with higher player counts. As for the art, I actually don’t mind it. This coming from someone who refuses to buy Terraforming Mars because of the egregious art. I think the minimal style makes everything readable at a glance. The player boards could be prettier, but then I worry they wouldn’t be as user-friendly. For now, probably a solid 8/10.
We're on the same page with this game in regards to how good it is and how it should be played. It's one of my most played and in my top 3. I don't think it needs an expansion, but it's affordable so I'll give it a look-see.
I’m one of the lucky ones that got in on the first printing and I’ll be one of the first to sign up for the pre-order of the expansion when that gets listed. If you are viewing this video a few months down the road, check your FLGS for this game and get it.
@@DanielHCassidy art is completely subjective. For example, I didn't really care for the cover art for On Mars or the art in The Gallerist when so many were gushing about those; on the other hand, I was drawn to this one because of the art and graphic design. (But I generally like Ian O'Toole art and buy most games of which he does the art.)
@@coreywilliams8568 you're right about subjectivity. As I hate seeing art by Ian o toole because apart from the box covers I'm like so what's the joke lads where exactly is the art. Like I don't really love the mickos art it's just not me but I can say I see it when I'm playing games illustrated by him. When I play games " illustrated" by Ian I'm like I see the graphic design and iconography but art... would be stretching its definition IMO.
back to the drawing board, mates, as NPI has *not* created something new under the sun--instead, it's another thoughtful, informative, and funny review of what sounds like a great game. Davy the Fat Boy approves
This looks like just my sort of thing, I do much better with games that require you to be reactive but there's no solo mode AND no French language version so that rules it out for me for quite some time :-( How does Ross feel about being colonised though? He gets everywhere these days! I now have RHCP's Behind the Sun as an earworm. Please give my love to Elaine, she's very much missed!
I am a huge fan of this game but my first impressions led me to pass on it completely. Luckily, I saw some other reviews and was able to pick up a copy before they quickly sold out. There is a easy solo variant available on BGG that is worth checking out to get used to the mechanics while we await for game nights to reconvene. There are also rumors of an official variant releasing as part of the first expansion.
The artwork in most space games is unimaginative, ugly and actually hindering gameplay (looking at games like TI4 and Gaia project). I think the simplicity of the graphic design in Beyond the Sun is refreshing, it is one of the first space themed games that appealed to me.
"I love space so much I think Interstellar and Prometheus are good movies"... And that's when I unsubscribed. Prometheus is my wife's favourite movie that she's never seen. Any time she needs to be cheered up, she casually mentions Prometheus and watches me spontaneously combust! It makes fire shoot out the sides of my head, a la the scene from Clue.
@@cyberleish I dont know if you are aware but the film was the idea of Kip Thorne, who is a world renowned physicist who wanted to make the film as a scientific as possible . A lot of physics in the film is accurate (some obv not for the sake of a movie) but I dont think its trying to be clever, but rather showing some real implications of of the science we have discovered.
Space Corp is amazing indeed. Leaving Earth is also very good. Beyond the Sun is much more streamlined and mass focused so i wouldnt compare them much. But man space corp is good.
One flaw that immediately strikes my eye is that the game is based on variable abilities that change from game to game, but they are printed on cards in small text that is easy to read from only one side of the table. Did this cause problems during gameplay?
Got it, could not test it in real life due to real life being the domain of COVID, saw there was a module in TTS. Organized friends to test it, took some time, we did. Found out that in the meantime the mod was removed, and somehow now it doesnt load correctly and decided that Level IV techs images could be replaced by another copy of the Level III deck, so the end of the trial run was me opening my copy to find out actual Level IV cards. So, no perfect conditions for testing, but I think the game is interesting, if a bit dry not only in presentation, but really needs to get some plays so you start to see what you mention - that there is tactical decisions all the way, from what to research to what to colonize to when to abandon plan A (say, I'll go for Level IV techs as quickly as possible) to plan B (hey, that tech she researched is nice but is in a different branch...) God is my witness, when this thing ends, I'll kidnap members of my club to burn on the backlog :)
Rio Grande has said they expect a properly sanctioned TTS mod soon. They just asked the others to be taken down since they were without permission and some of them had issues with cards, etc and they wanted to make sure people had a good experience.
When I think of space and space travel, I think of discovering interesting alien worlds and unusual life forms, not corporations looting resources for profits or high-tech warfare. If that's what we have to look forward to in space, I think I'll skip it.
Because they are nothing alike. Eclipse is a sprawling strategy game. Beyond the Sun is a lean tactical reactive experience with a sprinkling of strategy.
See this game looks very boring to me. Fiddly, confusing, it's almost a spreadsheet simulator that would be better suited to a video game because a game would wrap beautiful graphics and theme around it. No doubt there's interesting strategy and depth to the mechanics, it just doesn't look fun to play. Interesting to see what efka likes and doesn't.
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This is one of the most fun reviews I have watched of my game! You are the first person to call the people "Flesh"... I think I'll start doing that in all my future plays :-D
Just picked up the game at my FLGS today, excited to play it! Thank you for making cool stuff. 😁
Dennis! My girlfriend bought me Beyond the Sun for Christmas and I have since then fallen in love with this game. Such an excellent design! I look forward to any other games/expansions you might cook up in the future!
“THAT’S SCIENCE” is how I will finish explaining the birds and the bees to my children
I am in the Boston Game Makers Guild with Dennis and it’s a huge thrill to see his game getting such great reviews! Glad y’all thought so highly of it. Plus: Interstellar was great!
'Aces'
*Puts down a 5 of clubs and 3(?) of hearts*
🤔
I’m glad I’m not the only person who noticed this.
Same. No aces seen
My favorite part of Interstellar was when the astronaut explained wormholes to the other astronaut like he was an 8 year-old.
That's science!
Yeah... I get you need to explain it to the audience but they should've done it back on Earth at Nasa, have them explain it to Murph who gets confused about wormholes or something.
@@NoPunIncluded Lmao, I read this and it synced with the video in the background saying "That's science!"
Well if there are people that can get duped into believing in QAnon, the writers had to make sure that most Americans could wrap their minds around
Hahahahahaha, yeah that was a bit silly.
I may have bought this game solely on this review. That's how much I trust your opinion now. You guys are my new number one reference.
Two years later, no regrets. I haven't played it as much as I wanted so far, but every game of Beyond the Sun has been a hoot.
My head exploded when I saw PBS Spacetime in the thumbnail I couldn't relate to the NPI channel. Two of my favorite channels.
I love how dice are just cubes in this universe.
There is at least one event in which you roll them, but again, thats like the only one or maybe there are 2, not sure. 99% of the time, is just cubes.
A die is just a 6-sided chit, honestly. I think it's pretty great.
Dice are spaceships in Quantum.
*Roll for the Galaxy has left the chat room
That must be how the Borg spend their idle time.
Hey great review thank you! You are the perfect people to review the Phil Eklund games or especially "High frontier (4 all)" since there is not really a review about this on the internet and you shown yourselfs that you are able to explain even the most complicated board games (talking about your video on the 18xx genre). This is why I would be super interested in your take on this simulation game especially since the new edition is "4 all" :D
If I can't roll dice in space I'm not sure I want to go there anymore.
Your misdirection game is on point. It makes me feel all warm and science.
Great video as always mate, but that crooked lamp in the background is making me crazy.
Actually, Interstellar is one of my favorite SCI-FI movies, And not only because i also LOVE space, I just feel it has a very soothing vibe to it.
The best game reviewers reviewing the best games! Thank you both and keep up the good work.
NPI has quickly become my favourite review channel.
Love the fact that the aces up Efka's sleeve weren't even aces.
Love the Spire map in the background. There's a fine taste in boardgames and rpgs in this household.
Grant Howitt makes a mighty fine RPG.
Really enjoyed this one. Only played 2-p, so I’m stoked to try it with higher player counts. As for the art, I actually don’t mind it. This coming from someone who refuses to buy Terraforming Mars because of the egregious art. I think the minimal style makes everything readable at a glance. The player boards could be prettier, but then I worry they wouldn’t be as user-friendly. For now, probably a solid 8/10.
8/10 so far as a two player? I'm iiiiiin
@@pimentoloaf1509 I got mine from Miniature Market before Christmas
First Pope facts with SUSD, now space facts. I am getting so much culture with boardgames reviews
"Go buy it now." Like you could find it anywhere :D
seriously. can't find it anywhere
We're on the same page with this game in regards to how good it is and how it should be played. It's one of my most played and in my top 3. I don't think it needs an expansion, but it's affordable so I'll give it a look-see.
I liked how people are defending Interstellar but mostly ignoring Prometheus. The way it should be haha
Hey, nice reference to The Replacements!
I’m one of the lucky ones that got in on the first printing and I’ll be one of the first to sign up for the pre-order of the expansion when that gets listed. If you are viewing this video a few months down the road, check your FLGS for this game and get it.
You don’t need to love space to find positive qualities in Interstellar
I'm typically really bad about remembering the thumbs-up videos I like. Well, any video featuring The Mats gets a big thumbs up from me.
Nice to see a fellow Randy Newman fan :)
I dunno guys I love NPI and I think Elaine and Efka are fantastic but.....the 'That's Science' bit.....I don't think we should ever speak of it again.
How can someone make something so beautiful (space) so ugly? That player board literally looks like the excel spreadsheet I work with every day...
Yea this deserves a reprint or second edition
I love the look of this game! But then again, I also love the look of most 18xx games 😂
It makes the Terraforming mars board look like a work of art.
@@DanielHCassidy art is completely subjective. For example, I didn't really care for the cover art for On Mars or the art in The Gallerist when so many were gushing about those; on the other hand, I was drawn to this one because of the art and graphic design. (But I generally like Ian O'Toole art and buy most games of which he does the art.)
@@coreywilliams8568 you're right about subjectivity. As I hate seeing art by Ian o toole because apart from the box covers I'm like so what's the joke lads where exactly is the art. Like I don't really love the mickos art it's just not me but I can say I see it when I'm playing games illustrated by him. When I play games " illustrated" by Ian I'm like I see the graphic design and iconography but art... would be stretching its definition IMO.
But where did you get that shirt? And why does the technology about classy shirt making on the war crimes tech tree?
No solo mode, NEXT!
Solo Player ? NEXT !!!
I laughed out loud at least 3 times in the first three minutes. Well done!
Thanks for the new youtube suggestion
EFKA TURN AROUND! ITS SNOWING!
I absolutely love this game! I’ve got about a dozen plays in the last month since I bought it.
@@pimentoloaf1509 I got lucky and stumbled onto it pretty early & bought it off Amazon. It was just accidentally perfect timing!
Thanks for the review, usually this sort of game would really appeal but this left me cold. Maybe it’s because not able to play games for months?
back to the drawing board, mates, as NPI has *not* created something new under the sun--instead, it's another thoughtful, informative, and funny review of what sounds like a great game. Davy the Fat Boy approves
Actually I love the artwork! and Interstellar is one of my favourite movies :P
I like the explainer, well done, greets from germany.
Has Efka ever answered where he got the fancy shirt?? Did it miss it somewhere???
Interstellar is a fantastic movie. Say that with pride my friend!
I loved the intro! LOL
Very informative and entertaining....that's science!
This looks like just my sort of thing, I do much better with games that require you to be reactive but there's no solo mode AND no French language version so that rules it out for me for quite some time :-(
How does Ross feel about being colonised though? He gets everywhere these days!
I now have RHCP's Behind the Sun as an earworm.
Please give my love to Elaine, she's very much missed!
Prometheus is dope. Come at me bro
Have you checked out the Alien RPG? It's apparently really good and has the black goo in its canon
This game looks exciting to play. The biggest disadvantage for me is you don't get to roll dice in this game lol.
love your reviews guys, keep it up! Quick question for anyone that has a clue is that any good with two players?
It's not ideal but not at all bad at two. You won't get a much diminished experience.
To be fair, nobody understands 70% of what's on Space Time.
I am a huge fan of this game but my first impressions led me to pass on it completely. Luckily, I saw some other reviews and was able to pick up a copy before they quickly sold out.
There is a easy solo variant available on BGG that is worth checking out to get used to the mechanics while we await for game nights to reconvene. There are also rumors of an official variant releasing as part of the first expansion.
Randy Newman???? Awesome!!!!!
GREAT writing you guys xx
I'm extremely disappointed their wasn't a clip of Tim Curry saying SPACE in this video :(
all of us when we watch PBS spacetime 🤣
Interesting review. How do you compare this to Nations, another game where your tactical skill is tested than being strategical?
The artwork in most space games is unimaginative, ugly and actually hindering gameplay (looking at games like TI4 and Gaia project). I think the simplicity of the graphic design in Beyond the Sun is refreshing, it is one of the first space themed games that appealed to me.
Would love to see NPI's thoughts on High Frontier!
You can count on us absolutely never covering one of Phil Eklund's games.
"I love space so much I think Interstellar and Prometheus are good movies"... And that's when I unsubscribed. Prometheus is my wife's favourite movie that she's never seen. Any time she needs to be cheered up, she casually mentions Prometheus and watches me spontaneously combust! It makes fire shoot out the sides of my head, a la the scene from Clue.
how dare you, interstellar IS a good movie
@@cyberleish wrong
@@cyberleish fair enough cant please everyone
@@cyberleish I dont know if you are aware but the film was the idea of Kip Thorne, who is a world renowned physicist who wanted to make the film as a scientific as possible . A lot of physics in the film is accurate (some obv not for the sake of a movie) but I dont think its trying to be clever, but rather showing some real implications of of the science we have discovered.
@@cyberleish sounds like you just wont interested in it and thats fine :)
@@cyberleish oh no now we have a war :P inception is one of my favorite films of all time!
Interesting looking game, but not sure if it's enough to dethrone SpaceCorp for me.
Space Corp is amazing indeed. Leaving Earth is also very good. Beyond the Sun is much more streamlined and mass focused so i wouldnt compare them much. But man space corp is good.
Hi Efka, you may enjoy Ad Astra, the film starring Brad Pitt. I found it a great space romp.
I thought you were about to recommend Ad Astra game by Bruno Faidutti.
But ... Interstellar IS a good movie!
no it isn't and deep down you know it's true
@@syndromBE um it’s a good movie because it’s in space duhhhhhhhhhhh
Agreed!
That’s a disgusting statement.
came here to say this. amazing movie!
When is the Kickstarter for Efkalization launching?
The art design looks boring but it does not looks cluttered at least and is relatively easy to read.
When you make a card almost all white.....but you make the border full black so it can wear down on the first game...classic move guys...classic move
How do you think this compares to Beyond The Void II?
Wait, there are people that don't think Interstellar is a good film?
Beyond the sun is SOOO GREAT game
Is this just the Video-game Alpha Centauri ?
0:37 But Efka, those aren't aces!
Uhm, what kind of mushrooms are you smoking that makes you think that Interstellar isn't a good movie?
One flaw that immediately strikes my eye is that the game is based on variable abilities that change from game to game, but they are printed on cards in small text that is easy to read from only one side of the table. Did this cause problems during gameplay?
It's only very mildly inconveninet. Once you read a card once, it's not hard to remember what it does.
There did seem to be iconography on the cards which I assume is easy enough to read upside down.
@@NoPunIncluded All right, that's good to hear. Keep up the good work!
Got it, could not test it in real life due to real life being the domain of COVID, saw there was a module in TTS. Organized friends to test it, took some time, we did. Found out that in the meantime the mod was removed, and somehow now it doesnt load correctly and decided that Level IV techs images could be replaced by another copy of the Level III deck, so the end of the trial run was me opening my copy to find out actual Level IV cards.
So, no perfect conditions for testing, but I think the game is interesting, if a bit dry not only in presentation, but really needs to get some plays so you start to see what you mention - that there is tactical decisions all the way, from what to research to what to colonize to when to abandon plan A (say, I'll go for Level IV techs as quickly as possible) to plan B (hey, that tech she researched is nice but is in a different branch...)
God is my witness, when this thing ends, I'll kidnap members of my club to burn on the backlog :)
Rio Grande has said they expect a properly sanctioned TTS mod soon. They just asked the others to be taken down since they were without permission and some of them had issues with cards, etc and they wanted to make sure people had a good experience.
@@Confoundedjoe Great! Eagerly waiting for the official one then :)
Wait a second, are there people out there that think Interstellar is not a good movie?
I enjoyed this video.
✌
interstellar is a very good movie not quite so sure about Prometheus though
You say that tech trees were invented in board games. Is that true? Which game had tech trees first?
Civilization by Francis Tresham.
So hard to get this game now...
Interstellar and prometheus are good movies 🤣🤣🤣
you understand 30% of PBS space time?! BiG bRaiN
#thatsscience
How does this compare to Anno? Both are tech tree games.
They are both supposed to be pretty good I've heard.
A popular space game with mediocre art? Sounds like Terraforming Mars.
but interstellar and Prometheus are amazing movies
lmfao and of course I can't find a copy anywhere. honestly what's the point
High Frontier
Yay more boardgames, goodbye furlough money
... Man I made myself sad.
Those aren’t aces. Lol
Interstellar IS a good move
This makes me think of Food chain magnate, it's also a tech tree game that's but ugly
Interstellar is a great movie!
When I think of space and space travel, I think of discovering interesting alien worlds and unusual life forms, not corporations looting resources for profits or high-tech warfare. If that's what we have to look forward to in space, I think I'll skip it.
Why should I play this instead of Eclipse?
Because they are nothing alike. Eclipse is a sprawling strategy game. Beyond the Sun is a lean tactical reactive experience with a sprinkling of strategy.
Yeah, it's like comparing Too Many Bones to Mage Knight 😉
You should play Space Empires 4x instead of Eclipse ;)
Stopped watching at 1:17. Prometheus and Interstellar are good movies? What's next, Efka? Alien: Covenant? Unsubscribed!
Butt hurt much ??
Wait. Is Interstellar not a good movie?
none of those cards were aces
See this game looks very boring to me. Fiddly, confusing, it's almost a spreadsheet simulator that would be better suited to a video game because a game would wrap beautiful graphics and theme around it. No doubt there's interesting strategy and depth to the mechanics, it just doesn't look fun to play. Interesting to see what efka likes and doesn't.