I feel like Purple Haze would be a good stand to cover in this series. For being a stand with only 4 moves, with one being a straight up useless move and another just being rage, it’s not exactly the most powerful stand. The stand is literally a joke, and it’s been like this for so long.
PH is still a surprisingly good stand IMO it's often overlooked, and actually has easy counters if you actually know what the hell blocking is, but it's a great 'get off me stand' and has the highest gain in rage as well as the longest duration (plus virus immunity) maybe i'm just old but i actually liked purple haze for the trade offs you can do, and i guess the minor combo from the bulb breaker punch that you can pull, but don't underestimate the damage you can pull from it i wouldn't say it's a joke, though, just depends on your playstyle
@@illthinkofabetternamelater8004Oh I agree my friend, I main PH with boxing/hamon. I have so much fun playing it, but it’s just not viable at all to use. I personally don’t think it’s good though compared to sheer of bs that is in recent stands that still hasn’t been fixed. And there’s the F key, which pretty much is a complete counter available to everyone.
@@poyogobrr7589 i get it, and you'll get cucked by any TS user the upside though is, again, people either suck at blocking (either due to poor reflexes/ping), or people just don't know how to counter PH due to few people unironically maining it i do agree it should be talked about, it had a period (way back when) when it was ridiculous and it was practically impossible to kill due to the poison clouds being more irritating to deal with pre-nerf
@@illthinkofabetternamelater8004lmao the funny thing is talking about what actually happens and what really should happen is a different story. Yeah sure it’s blockable, does anyone block it tho? No :). Am I complaining? NAH 😂 But yeah there’s so many stands that need attention in this game, that literally no one even cares about. Beach Boy, PH, Cream, Mr. President, the list goes on and on.
One thing people don’t know about King Crimson is that it’s the PERFECT stand for scammers to use back in the day. When two people are trading and they both drop their items, one of the traders can get his KC friend to use time erase and WALK over the dropped items to retrieve them (and yes this did work before). The poor dude who saw his items vanish wouldn’t know what happened and a recording wouldn’t incriminate the other trader.
I'm gonna say it again; Cream would be a great option: Little moves but they support the spec well, good damage, the ability to debuff the enemy through taking more damage or disabling sprint, and overall just fun to play with If you want something simple.
@lojutcf with newer specs, old stands tend to support them, eclipse said it about sticky fingers; In this case, you get good hits that make it easier to push with the momentum you have with it. It's damage is better as well, along with having a move that gives you anti-timestop and mixup options
Simply put, Hierophant Green. Hierophant Green would fit perfectly for this series, a stand that has stayed the exact same, in its sad little corner of shame for years. With a few buffs or debuffs here and there, just like King Crimson And yet, despite that, Hierophant Green is still completely capable of taking on some of the more meta stands with a bajillion combos.
@@ekremguler6796 That's the whole point, that Hierophant Green has barely been touched by the devs because they don't give a rat's rancid ass about the state of balance in their game. They only care about the robux they can farm from the playerbase and we're basically left completely at their mercy HOPING that we get an update that's actually cool as opposed to some stupid shit that only the staff members can use or god forbid even more skins nobody's going to actually use.
Seeing this game again hurts me. I quit roblox and YBA as a whole 6 months ago and it pains me watching this because it reminds me of all of the hours I’ve wasted on this game.
Whitesnake would be a good addition to the series, as it is a stand with quite a few good tools that really help out your spec and seeing as most specs have like 300 moves now it's quite powerful in my opinion.
Acid spray is _insanely_ good. The visual effects are close to impossible to see through well and it lands THROUGH block, it doesn’t deal damage but lands THROUGH it. It’s an almost unpunishable move unless the opponent has a counter or offensive teleport move (skull crusher) to punish you with
@@daliusv.9725This doesn’t really count as a rework as King Crimson, the stand shown in the video has gotten a remodel however that still doesn’t count as a rework, small balance changes don’t really count either.
Honestly, I'd like to see an OSO on Aerosmith. I can't recall when it was last touched, but it's always been in this weird place where it can be very good in the hands of the right player, but is generally considered garbage.
I think that The Hand would be a perfect pick for it, as I remember the only change it has received was an old bug that lasted for over a year. They seem to have given up on it, because it only has 2 high damage moves and a move that gets you countered for using it, and doesn’t work half the time.
Beach boy would be a very cool stand for you to cover, try his spin build! It’s very intuitive once you figure it out, and though its animations are outdated I honestly find it one of the most fun and most underrated abilities that are off the radar. Constant combos and resets off of a knockdown, it’s great.
I think any ribcage stand outside SM would fit very well. Specially D4C, I don't think they've touched that stand in AGES and I do feel it's kinda outdated. And there's a lot of stuff you could do with that stand, really. You've got one direct damage moves and two other that depend on... The other person's capabilities. That and Dimension Hop. I'm not asking D4C to have a different moveset to LT's, but really the only viable move being Gun Shot sounds kinda dumb. Tusk and TWAU are certainly other options (TWAU probably being the most obsolete considering that it's moveset only has ONE unique move being smoke grenade. The others are ones he shares with D4C, TW/MIH/TWOH and KC) and while yeah, he does make those moves in the anime, I don't think that should be an excuse for a copypaste. Just... Make it a skin, cause the gameplay (personally to me) is kinda eh considering the current meta (spamming moves with flashy stuff that literally flashbang you irl) so idk. I thought it was a little weird that no one mentioned em so I hope I'm not saying something dumb.
Would be fun to go over Gold Experience Requiem, it's a stand I enjoyed playing so I am curious to see how it holds up now, since I don't play yba anymore.
Heres my personal take on it, it's weird, but still good? You have high damage but you lack the ability to consistently land them. Meaning you basically have to learn your enemy completely or get GBS/parries, you also have a 1/3 HP heal so theres that. The major issue for GER in my opinion is it feels very inconsistent and heavily relies on yours and your enemies ping, what I mean by this is some times you can land scorpions + a stun after a guard break, however for some players they might be able to slide right out of it. And for some reason they keep nerfing the stand, quite recently they made it so RTZ + barrage is no longer true unless you somehow get a GB/Parry. The only thing people use GER for now is pretty much RTZ + Time stop.
Y’know, I haven’t watched Eclipse in a while so when I heard his voice at the start of the video I was just thinking “did he always sound like this?” And right as I thought that he brought up that he sounded “sick and miserable” I gotta say though, dude sounds kinda like a radio host when he’s sick and I ain’t bothered by it
For the next OSO, I think a good suggestion would be Scary Monsters. Now HEAR ME OUT!!! It hasn’t been reworked since summer. That’s ages ago so I think it’s old enough right?
King Crimson is good, except for impale that was nerfed. It has high dmg m1s contemplating its lack of moves. It is more of a competitive stand than a visually good looking stand, which I like about it.
I think people categorise stands as "old" and "new". So stuff like SP, SC and idk, Aerosmith. They're old. They have some nice moves, their effects are sorta robust and whatever. And the "New" stands being Stone free, Sm and Cd with their blinding effects and having to type out the bible to land your true 400% combo. The older stands like Mr and 6p are exactly like the older, unreworked stands. Few moves, clean effects and whatnot. So it's fair to say if you did a 6p obituary, it'd be fine just off of it having 3 offencive moves.
I agree with this, it's not super old but there's a stark contrast of stands starting around Anubis/rhcp being a midpoint between "old" and new/reworked stands
I mean I think you exaggerate how many buttons you have to press and how long the combos are, they just deal way too much damage and it's not fun dying so quickly
I think it would be cool to see The Hand on this series. Since it only has 2 attacks, mostly because it's barely used in the anime so not much inspiration there, and those said attacks are easily parryable too.
To be honest, TB2 has some interesting moves on Za Hando, 8 in total, some of them being the pots that it pulls, the kick barrage pull thing, and the barrage that they use is super different, with one arm doing more damage than the other, although being a slow barrage
It's a pretty basic stand, but I like using it a lot. It just has that sort of mix-up potential and basic 3-4 hit combos that really just hit a soft spot in me when it comes to stands. King Crimson and Sticky Fingers are the stands that I find the most fun to use for that reason.
@@shrey1124 I'm more of a Hamon guy myself, I like to get up close and spam M1s with epitaph on for some easy damage, and then Time Erase into Scarlet Overdrive. It's not flawless, but it doesn't need to be since I have enough fun just playing the stand.
@@recc-iu6hu Ok yeah it sucks, but It's the only stand with a fun Sticky Fingers and still arguably the best Jojo game (which, tbh, isn't a very high bar) so you know what? I like YBA. Yeah, I said it, I still have fun with the game for now. At least until 1v1s and SF get reworked and ruin everything.
@@pillfllip8936 Fun sticky fingers?? My brother it has 2 MOVES and it's only usable with a spec like vamp against noobs who have never even seen sticky fingers before. If you play against a decent opponent with sf you would get 1 comboed immediately. Liking or not liking yba is completely your choice. However I quit yba because of the new spam moves meta and its garbage owner who doesn't care about the community or the game, who let a 1 shot combo bug go untouched for 4 months and keeps making false promises and almost never acts on them.
Beach Boy is a modern stand KILLER. At the beginning of a round, you can use auto rod pull and then confirm that into an uncancellable spec move like Luck + Pluck. And yes, it doesn't have a barrage, but if you can read when they are going to barrage (which considering the current YBA playerbase is piss easy), just use rod slap. (Oh yeah, and you can rod pull while an enemy is grounded to avoid parries and set up for more semi-combos.)
I think Whitesnake should get it's own OSO video as well , it was one of my favorite stands to play when I used to play a lot . It is very fun to play in my opinion even though it is really old
things that could be in the series (as far as I remember) Mr. poison man A.K.A. Purple Haze Aero smith (got his visuals reworked, but nothing else, might not be fun to play) Beach Boy, Mr. President, hermit purple (already mentioned by way more people, and as aerosmith, might not so fun to play) White snake (hasn't been reworked nor touched as far as im concerned) Golden Experience (i think only the tree visuals changed) D4C and D4C:LT TW AU (got something changed on it's knifes but it still has the old YBA kind of moves All The tusks (even if Ta4 has gotten a beatdown and a mini beatdown, I think ta1 - ta3 are still stands you only have because either you don't have a pelvis, you are trolling or you are in the process of getting ta4) The hand (only change I remember is the space erasure - wall glitch getting fixed) Silver Chariot Requiem (hasn't really changed overall) Hieropant Green (was cancer, still cancer) Star Platinum / The World (even if they got a new move like a lot of time ago when uzu just gave new moves to many stands, they haven't really changed their skill tree) so that's basically all if Im not wrong
PH got it's poison clouds removed from all the moves except the Bulb punch Aerosmith basically got it's vola barrage "reworked"(less duration, more damage per hit) WS was touched, but all I remember from it is that they made the pistol move actually good GE got 3 new moves(those being Frog Punch(doesn't even work properly), Muda Beatdown(a boring execution move), kick barrage(with TW's reused animation, good job YBA dev team!) and I believe GE'a healing ability got nerfed Idk why I typed this all out, but why not ig
Made in heaven would be a great entry for OSO since its fairly hard to get and hasnt been touched in a long time as far as i remember (i havent played in a long time) and in my opinion made in heaven is simply put, not worth the effort anymore, but what do yall think (Forgive my spelling mistakes im from brazil ;-;)
So no beach boy enjoyers? I haven’t played yba in forever, and have no clue if it had a rework, but if I had to guess I would bet it hasn’t. My reason for imparting my suggestion of beach boy is because funny fishing rod.
I remember there being a pull move, and a unblockable move right after seems fair and balanced. I also remember there being a pink move that never hits anyone at all, no matter how many times you use it (unless I’m remembering wrong). This is all with increased m1 and m2 range as well, plus a block breaking projectile. Add a broken spec to this and it might just be the most underrated and geriatric thing in YBA.
I really like this series, as I'd assume eclipse is still popular in the YBA community and I imagine he's basically showing off older, still strong and good stands to the new gen of YBA who just run around with an unga bunga brain and mash buttons i.e: at 11:47
Even though several stands have been reworked, the "new gen" reworks are on a completely different level. Like 6p has been reworked but it was long enough ago that I still classify it as old or at least somewhat old yba. Same with magicians red, though I wouldn't say that it's bad.
Cover TWAU, very solid stand but very outdated besides a couple visual changes, i havent touched the game in a good bit so i'm not sure if twau is still considered good but hey, from what i remember it was really simple and effective so yeah would be cool to see that
i would just love you ranting about cream, i myself have basicly just discoverd how much fun cream can be to play againts players who cant really grasp the concept of not wasting your dash.
Bro eclipse when you out king crimsons them in when you started talking about it I literally got chill bumps. Please keep doing that edits it’s amazing.
Use White Snake If it still isn't reworked, then the stand is older than time itself *I know you didn't really like WS when you played yba constantly back when it was good but it's older than time
An old stand that has most likely hasn't been touched is probably gold experience. As far as I know the only thing changed about it is adding a kick barrage, and finally fixing whatever the hell the frog punch move is called.
Ill drop a suggestion for this series being C-Moon, it's a stand with only TWO damage moves, a counter and a self buff that can be blocked and canceled. it has it's one trick but other then that its linear and very easy to beat once you figure out what to parry and or block
@@WiggleMan1234 Not saying it isn't technically good, I'm saying that it has a little amount of moves and definitely boring to play, just because its effective at what it does, does not mean that it isn't in need of touch ups, possible new moves and or different animations / visual effects
@@redmagnet7262 it has 5 actually but 3 of them have crazy stun and 2 of them do crazy damage whilst being a very quick stand with arguably the best mobility in the game second only to HP.
D4C, Purple Haze, Hermit Purple, Heirophant Green, Whitesnake, and Tusk are all stands that i'd like to see that would fit the requirements of this series. More specifically, stands like SCR, GER, GE, and TWAU would probably be less fun to make a video on, as well as GE/R having received some changes, but not a full moveset rework.
As a guy who used Cream a lot (even suggested the old Cream + Pluck BoB, which I still stand by being good before the Pluck rework), and as someone who played YBA again just to try Cream out with the new stuff, while I think it holds up surprisingly well still, it honestly should get a rework. Void Surprise is still great especially because people don't seem to realize wasting your dash is a thing, which Cream takes advantage of perfectly. However, it's been the same since *the release of YBA*. Back in Febuary of 2019. Almost five years. That's crazy to me how it's never been touched ONCE in terms of anything new gameplay related. So I pray for the love of God it get reworks but also not, because of the fact it will most certainly be just another OP heavy combo based Stand.
A lot of the old stands have good viability due to the lack of punishment you can do to the user if they make a mistake, but on the other side the older stands can punish hard. There is only one cancellable and parriable move KC has. That's where KC's punishment ends. The rest are unpunishable moves that you can throw out for free, and it has exceptionally low cooldowns. KC also has a really cheap skill tree, and the last 2-3 upgrades of TE and the last one of Epitaph are completely optional and not vital to the moveset. The same low cost of points quality is shared with a lot of old really good stands (SP, WS, C-Moon, Cream, MR)
i think king crimson used to have a destruction effect during time erase at launch (because you can see it happens in the trailer) but for whatever reason it was removed
a option for the next OSO could be one of the whitesnake evolutions (whitesnake, c-moon, made in heaven) from my knowledge of what has become of this game i don't think any of them got touched. maybe even long episode covering all evolutions
Ah kc, best experience I had with a stand before leaving roblox in general. I used to use kc boxing, fight insanely agressive with the spec and m1s, and use epitaph and time erase as 'dodges'. TE to dodge WA ice, TE to dodge beatdowns, I think TE to dodge Go Beyond, TE to dodge heavy punch just to piss people off, and occasionally just use TE and stand there. Was a great way to use endlag on heavy moves and to just be annoying in general. No clue if I won a decent amount of matches but what truly matters is the message you are giving out
Well to be honest every stand in YBA needs a rework they've got messy coding that breaks and bad hitboxes lol, mainly the bd's I'd like to see a TW review though because that stand heavily needs a rework I'm tired of seeing the same stuff Kicks, Knives, Bad Road Roller, they only give my man TW 3 moves. xd
My next suggestion would be GER, i know you made like 5 videos on that stand but rn its just run away for heal, land counter, deal half your opponent's hp in 2 moves. This stand is just braindead and boring as hell for both the one using it and the one fighting against it which is a shame considering that its the one of the strongest stands in jojo and also my favourite one.
uhhh wait a second is sc/scr still broken???? or is scr "balanced" now compared to the new stands i dont think they got any changes until like uh 2020 when scr got a nerf maybe not sc because he got a rework awhile back
i think aerosmith is at the top of my rework list, you may think "why?" but let me remind you the 60% of your hp blockbreaking barrage is balanced out by the fact the other move it has just doesnt work 90% of the time. idk how well it would work for an OSO, maybe it'd be miserable or maybe you'd get a real kick out of pressing e on someone who doesnt know how to press f
I personally think Aerosmith would be a great idea for this. Only 3 actual damaging moves. Only vola barrage has really changed, yknow. Though overall it feels like it does the same damage, just lasts shorter.
Im gonna hop in to defend king crimson real quick actually. Mind you this is looking at it in old yba. In the past as you said m1s were much more important and m1 trades were very important. A lot of stands were kinda classified as m1 stands, meaning they got the majority of their damage through said m1s. Stands like twoh sp sptw and of course the king crimsons. Kcs moveset is designed in a way where you get the most out of your m1s, which can be seen as your 'basic' attack. Epitaph lets you evade so you can get more m1s, chop lets you armor so you can get more m1s. Time erase lets you do a 5050 on a knockback or block break usually, the latter letting you get off your m1s. Effects wise it is dated sure, but I'm looking at the design of it and how it plays. Simply put, in the old meta of up close back and forth m1 trades kc had a lot of tools that play off it in interesting ways. You were not concerned about your lack of offensive moves because they were made up for by m1s most of the time and you had not much need for anything else. Didnt talk about impale but without the cheese the move was kinda meh (i guess a knockdown finisher?) and with the cheese it was stupid as fuck
Ngl i feel like beach boy would be a pretty good stand for this series, It's got 4(?) moves and no barrage, and it almost entirely relies on your spec, so basicly if your enemy barrages you you're donezo
Do mih since it bassicaly received no change since it was released asside from nerfing the infinite double accel and was the front page of the game for more than 1.5 years
That move you mentioned remembers me of the undertale games like soul shatters or alternate batlegrounds, they have been using that since long time ago and i never see it on any other game. (edit) i am refering to erase attack) They put an exclamation mark over your head and gives you like 2 seconds or more depending on the move.
I'd say Love Train might be a pretty good stand for this. To my knowledge, he's basically been the same since he came out with the exception of a longer cooldown on the Love train ability itself and fixing the fact that people could heal themselves off the clones and the counter.
I might be wrong but I don't think that Rhcp got any sort of rework, kust buffs. So after eclipse has done all the other highly requested stands, I'd like to see red hot chilli pepper next
If you use epitaph at the same time as chop, it is un-cancelable and will likely be able to confirm impale, or a move on your spec like pierce strike. I know this because my first ever stand was king crimson.
Although I like to play it a lot, using beach boy feels like I'm always playing at a disadvantage, as well as the projectiles being weird (the rod throw seems to teleport and stall in the air sometimes, and the hook pierce's bleed upgrade doesn't even proc most of the time), and normal rod pull being almost unlandable (unless they're ragdolled, but paragon said that that is getting removed). While auto rod pull is pretty good to, well, 'pull' in people to then combo them, if they parry it (which is easy to do so), they're point blank to you and you're stunned so, die, I guess. Beach boy mainly plays like a zoner, which is confusing why no one plays it, considering the amount of 'running away' and 'chucking out moves' people do nowadays. I usually go beach boy spin for the damage, but I run out of skill points and don't have any for golden skin, so if they get in, you pretty much die. But the damage buff you get from the maxed spin charge is fairly decent (also pretty sure this is getting nerfed too), so you're a glass cannon, but instead of cannon balls, you shoot steel balls, hooks, and fishing rods. The counter from spin is also helpful. I really like the extended range of the m1s, they're really good for zoning and tacking on additional damage (although it deals 5 damage against a pluck user, and about 3.8 against a boxing user) as well as giving a very small amount of stun to (maybe) cancel some of their moves. To conclude, while they should fix the jank and maybe give it a new move or something, I do believe that beach boy is kinda fun to use, because I'm able to get into the mind of the average yba player, which is running away the whole time and chucking shit at them until they die. I also like having the range with the (janky) projectiles and the (incredibly low damage) extended range m1s to be able to either zone, or hit my opponent from a range in which I normally wouldn't be able to. Beware the white album
My favourite stands right now are Silver Chariot and White Snake, just because they're so fun to use and that they haven't been changed since they were added to the game, hope you do a vid on them when you want to.
Would be cool if we saw a OSO on Golden experience requiem I think it’s just a pretty cool stand because it’s a one of a kind. You just control the battle field if you can play him right If people don’t respect GER abilities you can easily set them up to get hard punisn, you have healing for you and your teammates , RTZ straight up gives I frames while stopping all time related moves and the counter is perfect complimenting its life forms. Despite GER being one of my favorite stands it still has one problem the awakening it’s really strong but I think it’s a little to strong people literally run away from you when you pop it just slows down the game or what not. It would be nice to see the awakening straight up removed and GER gets a destructive power buff it always bugged me how GE did more damage. but yeah have a nice day for anybody who read this It would be cool if we did a blast in the past and reflect how strong it used to be
I’m not gonna lie KC reminded me that while you and us as a coomunity like old YBA and hate button mashing it’s been an issue since the beginning of YBA with King Crimson One Shot Boxing combo or Timestop being an auto one shot Really if they made even a health based evasive on YBA and not make it easy to catch someone after the evasive it would be a whole lot more fun even as the make it easier and easier to make one shot combos
Yeah king crimson was good for the time, but unfortunately that time is passed, and it is unfortunate knowing when they do update him he'll get the scary monsters treatment
I feel like Purple Haze would be a good stand to cover in this series. For being a stand with only 4 moves, with one being a straight up useless move and another just being rage, it’s not exactly the most powerful stand. The stand is literally a joke, and it’s been like this for so long.
PH is still a surprisingly good stand IMO
it's often overlooked, and actually has easy counters if you actually know what the hell blocking is, but it's a great 'get off me stand' and has the highest gain in rage as well as the longest duration (plus virus immunity)
maybe i'm just old but i actually liked purple haze for the trade offs you can do, and i guess the minor combo from the bulb breaker punch that you can pull, but don't underestimate the damage you can pull from it
i wouldn't say it's a joke, though, just depends on your playstyle
@@illthinkofabetternamelater8004Oh I agree my friend, I main PH with boxing/hamon. I have so much fun playing it, but it’s just not viable at all to use. I personally don’t think it’s good though compared to sheer of bs that is in recent stands that still hasn’t been fixed. And there’s the F key, which pretty much is a complete counter available to everyone.
@@poyogobrr7589 i get it, and you'll get cucked by any TS user
the upside though is, again, people either suck at blocking (either due to poor reflexes/ping), or people just don't know how to counter PH due to few people unironically maining it
i do agree it should be talked about, it had a period (way back when) when it was ridiculous and it was practically impossible to kill due to the poison clouds being more irritating to deal with pre-nerf
@@illthinkofabetternamelater8004lmao the funny thing is talking about what actually happens and what really should happen is a different story. Yeah sure it’s blockable, does anyone block it tho? No :). Am I complaining? NAH 😂
But yeah there’s so many stands that need attention in this game, that literally no one even cares about. Beach Boy, PH, Cream, Mr. President, the list goes on and on.
Bulb Breaker Ground Punch: 🤯
One thing people don’t know about King Crimson is that it’s the PERFECT stand for scammers to use back in the day. When two people are trading and they both drop their items, one of the traders can get his KC friend to use time erase and WALK over the dropped items to retrieve them (and yes this did work before). The poor dude who saw his items vanish wouldn’t know what happened and a recording wouldn’t incriminate the other trader.
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Beach boi Solos
That's just canon Diavolo
@@bananagod5530I used beach boy for scamming, I'd pull the victim away from is items while my friend snatched them away
I'm gonna say it again; Cream would be a great option: Little moves but they support the spec well, good damage, the ability to debuff the enemy through taking more damage or disabling sprint, and overall just fun to play with If you want something simple.
the thing is, its the specs who are supposed to support the stand, not the other way around
@lojutcf with newer specs, old stands tend to support them, eclipse said it about sticky fingers; In this case, you get good hits that make it easier to push with the momentum you have with it. It's damage is better as well, along with having a move that gives you anti-timestop and mixup options
I don’t think you can have fun and something to do with yba in the same sentence
@@davidwillow9866facts my friend
@davidwillow9866 true, still was fun before specs were reworked.
Simply put, Hierophant Green.
Hierophant Green would fit perfectly for this series, a stand that has stayed the exact same, in its sad little corner of shame for years.
With a few buffs or debuffs here and there, just like King Crimson
And yet, despite that, Hierophant Green is still completely capable of taking on some of the more meta stands with a bajillion combos.
Emerald splash!!!! Emerald splash!!!!! Emerald ok ill stop
ph yeah, i think i also recall that eclipse liked the stand when he was still playing, i might be saying some BS rn but i think i remember it right
İts already reworked a long time ago
@@InsanearcIt cannot be deflected
@@ekremguler6796 That's the whole point, that Hierophant Green has barely been touched by the devs because they don't give a rat's rancid ass about the state of balance in their game. They only care about the robux they can farm from the playerbase and we're basically left completely at their mercy HOPING that we get an update that's actually cool as opposed to some stupid shit that only the staff members can use or god forbid even more skins nobody's going to actually use.
Seeing this game again hurts me. I quit roblox and YBA as a whole 6 months ago and it pains me watching this because it reminds me of all of the hours I’ve wasted on this game.
Hey, atleast you had fun while it lasted, right?
R-right?
I mean it’s hard to consider them wasted if you had fun. If.
@@ZeFishyoh you sweet sweet summer child
You waste time in games in general but whatever.
That is objectively wrong.
0:41 if it sounds like my voice is miserable and sick thats cause ive been playing YBA
Whitesnake would be a good addition to the series, as it is a stand with quite a few good tools that really help out your spec and seeing as most specs have like 300 moves now it's quite powerful in my opinion.
was just going to suggest that XD
Acid spray is _insanely_ good. The visual effects are close to impossible to see through well and it lands THROUGH block, it doesn’t deal damage but lands THROUGH it. It’s an almost unpunishable move unless the opponent has a counter or offensive teleport move (skull crusher) to punish you with
Whitesnake has actually been reworked. Remodel, some moves changed (for example they changed the pistol to shoot 3 shots).
@@daliusv.9725This doesn’t really count as a rework as King Crimson, the stand shown in the video has gotten a remodel however that still doesn’t count as a rework, small balance changes don’t really count either.
@@daliusv.9725pistol always had 3 shots though
Honestly, I'd like to see an OSO on Aerosmith. I can't recall when it was last touched, but it's always been in this weird place where it can be very good in the hands of the right player, but is generally considered garbage.
I think that The Hand would be a perfect pick for it, as I remember the only change it has received was an old bug that lasted for over a year. They seem to have given up on it, because it only has 2 high damage moves and a move that gets you countered for using it, and doesn’t work half the time.
Beach boy would be a very cool stand for you to cover, try his spin build! It’s very intuitive once you figure it out, and though its animations are outdated I honestly find it one of the most fun and most underrated abilities that are off the radar. Constant combos and resets off of a knockdown, it’s great.
That "good god peter why?" had me ROLLING!
when king crimson came out emitaph teleporting people into a specific place was revolutionary
I think any ribcage stand outside SM would fit very well. Specially D4C, I don't think they've touched that stand in AGES and I do feel it's kinda outdated. And there's a lot of stuff you could do with that stand, really. You've got one direct damage moves and two other that depend on... The other person's capabilities. That and Dimension Hop. I'm not asking D4C to have a different moveset to LT's, but really the only viable move being Gun Shot sounds kinda dumb. Tusk and TWAU are certainly other options (TWAU probably being the most obsolete considering that it's moveset only has ONE unique move being smoke grenade. The others are ones he shares with D4C, TW/MIH/TWOH and KC) and while yeah, he does make those moves in the anime, I don't think that should be an excuse for a copypaste. Just... Make it a skin, cause the gameplay (personally to me) is kinda eh considering the current meta (spamming moves with flashy stuff that literally flashbang you irl) so idk. I thought it was a little weird that no one mentioned em so I hope I'm not saying something dumb.
Talk about the "braindead" stands out there now
eclipse when he makes YBA content: "Here comes the money! MONEY MONEY MONEY!"
Beach boy would be very good to cover in the series, Old. Literally dead since barely anybody uses it. (Rest in piece beach boy)
Would be fun to go over Gold Experience Requiem, it's a stand I enjoyed playing so I am curious to see how it holds up now, since I don't play yba anymore.
balls
Heres my personal take on it, it's weird, but still good? You have high damage but you lack the ability to consistently land them. Meaning you basically have to learn your enemy completely or get GBS/parries, you also have a 1/3 HP heal so theres that. The major issue for GER in my opinion is it feels very inconsistent and heavily relies on yours and your enemies ping, what I mean by this is some times you can land scorpions + a stun after a guard break, however for some players they might be able to slide right out of it. And for some reason they keep nerfing the stand, quite recently they made it so RTZ + barrage is no longer true unless you somehow get a GB/Parry. The only thing people use GER for now is pretty much RTZ + Time stop.
Its good, kinda janky but good
Stand proud, you're strong.
"for some reason"
Bro, I liked that you used F-ZERO ost on the video
Y’know, I haven’t watched Eclipse in a while so when I heard his voice at the start of the video I was just thinking “did he always sound like this?” And right as I thought that he brought up that he sounded “sick and miserable”
I gotta say though, dude sounds kinda like a radio host when he’s sick and I ain’t bothered by it
For the next OSO, I think a good suggestion would be Scary Monsters. Now HEAR ME OUT!!! It hasn’t been reworked since summer. That’s ages ago so I think it’s old enough right?
lame but kinda funny
bro SM rework is brand new ☠☠, or maybe i'm dumb and I didn't get that you were joking .
Bro is smurfing 100% but it's funny.
as the doctor says, eclipse, a little bit of blox fruit will keep you in one piece.
King Crimson is good, except for impale that was nerfed. It has high dmg m1s contemplating its lack of moves. It is more of a competitive stand than a visually good looking stand, which I like about it.
I think people categorise stands as "old" and "new". So stuff like SP, SC and idk, Aerosmith. They're old. They have some nice moves, their effects are sorta robust and whatever. And the "New" stands being Stone free, Sm and Cd with their blinding effects and having to type out the bible to land your true 400% combo. The older stands like Mr and 6p are exactly like the older, unreworked stands. Few moves, clean effects and whatnot. So it's fair to say if you did a 6p obituary, it'd be fine just off of it having 3 offencive moves.
I agree with this, it's not super old but there's a stark contrast of stands starting around Anubis/rhcp being a midpoint between "old" and new/reworked stands
I mean I think you exaggerate how many buttons you have to press and how long the combos are, they just deal way too much damage and it's not fun dying so quickly
im gonna be straight, this WILL get a rework but.. uh, Sticky fingers.. it seems like its old. (i am not sure since im pretty new to the game.)
I think it would be cool to see The Hand on this series. Since it only has 2 attacks, mostly because it's barely used in the anime so not much inspiration there, and those said attacks are easily parryable too.
To be honest, TB2 has some interesting moves on Za Hando, 8 in total, some of them being the pots that it pulls, the kick barrage pull thing, and the barrage that they use is super different, with one arm doing more damage than the other, although being a slow barrage
I know I will never touch a jjba game ever again, but its still entertaining watching eclipse play games like tca or yba
A good one may be the hand. I am pretty sure the last change it got was the fix for being able to phase through walls with erasure accelerate
that bug is still kinda here
Not a bad choice,it actually stands in a great place in the meta; who would of guessed the stand with two 50+ damage moves would be good?
It's a pretty basic stand, but I like using it a lot. It just has that sort of mix-up potential and basic 3-4 hit combos that really just hit a soft spot in me when it comes to stands. King Crimson and Sticky Fingers are the stands that I find the most fun to use for that reason.
Yeah me too, I’m a Kc pluck main and using the impale into crescent slice is so fun
@@shrey1124 I'm more of a Hamon guy myself, I like to get up close and spam M1s with epitaph on for some easy damage, and then Time Erase into Scarlet Overdrive. It's not flawless, but it doesn't need to be since I have enough fun just playing the stand.
Why do yall play yba bruh its garbage 💀💀
@@recc-iu6hu Ok yeah it sucks, but It's the only stand with a fun Sticky Fingers and still arguably the best Jojo game (which, tbh, isn't a very high bar) so you know what? I like YBA. Yeah, I said it, I still have fun with the game for now. At least until 1v1s and SF get reworked and ruin everything.
@@pillfllip8936 Fun sticky fingers?? My brother it has 2 MOVES and it's only usable with a spec like vamp against noobs who have never even seen sticky fingers before. If you play against a decent opponent with sf you would get 1 comboed immediately. Liking or not liking yba is completely your choice. However I quit yba because of the new spam moves meta and its garbage owner who doesn't care about the community or the game, who let a 1 shot combo bug go untouched for 4 months and keeps making false promises and almost never acts on them.
I kinda wanna see twoh cuz to my knowledge he hasnt gotten reworked, and he was so overpowered for a time. So I kinda just wanna see where he is now.
Beach Boy is a modern stand KILLER. At the beginning of a round, you can use auto rod pull and then confirm that into an uncancellable spec move like Luck + Pluck. And yes, it doesn't have a barrage, but if you can read when they are going to barrage (which considering the current YBA playerbase is piss easy), just use rod slap.
(Oh yeah, and you can rod pull while an enemy is grounded to avoid parries and set up for more semi-combos.)
Golden experience would be a great one as well due to it not having been touched, (apart from getting kick barrage).
Purple Haze is next to being reworked with cream, sure its a good option
Man, watching these is literally more entertaining than playing the actual game.
Am I the only one that's entertained seeing eclipse beat new yba players trying to sweat with boxing,
You should cover D4C LT, it’s been left alone for forever
I think Whitesnake should get it's own OSO video as well , it was one of my favorite stands to play when I used to play a lot . It is very fun to play in my opinion even though it is really old
things that could be in the series (as far as I remember)
Mr. poison man A.K.A. Purple Haze
Aero smith (got his visuals reworked, but nothing else, might not be fun to play)
Beach Boy, Mr. President, hermit purple (already mentioned by way more people, and as aerosmith, might not so fun to play)
White snake (hasn't been reworked nor touched as far as im concerned)
Golden Experience (i think only the tree visuals changed)
D4C and D4C:LT
TW AU (got something changed on it's knifes but it still has the old YBA kind of moves
All The tusks (even if Ta4 has gotten a beatdown and a mini beatdown, I think ta1 - ta3 are still stands you only have because either you don't have a pelvis, you are trolling or you are in the process of getting ta4)
The hand (only change I remember is the space erasure - wall glitch getting fixed)
Silver Chariot Requiem (hasn't really changed overall)
Hieropant Green (was cancer, still cancer)
Star Platinum / The World (even if they got a new move like a lot of time ago when uzu just gave new moves to many stands, they haven't really changed their skill tree)
so that's basically all if Im not wrong
PH got it's poison clouds removed from all the moves except the Bulb punch
Aerosmith basically got it's vola barrage "reworked"(less duration, more damage per hit)
WS was touched, but all I remember from it is that they made the pistol move actually good
GE got 3 new moves(those being Frog Punch(doesn't even work properly), Muda Beatdown(a boring execution move), kick barrage(with TW's reused animation, good job YBA dev team!) and I believe GE'a healing ability got nerfed
Idk why I typed this all out, but why not ig
aye ty, I forgot these@@bronyafan
I think tusk Act 2 hasn't been reworked at all, so maybe you can do a video on that stand (yes, no barrage is pain)
Made in heaven would be a great entry for OSO since its fairly hard to get and hasnt been touched in a long time as far as i remember (i havent played in a long time) and in my opinion made in heaven is simply put, not worth the effort anymore, but what do yall think
(Forgive my spelling mistakes im from brazil ;-;)
So no beach boy enjoyers? I haven’t played yba in forever, and have no clue if it had a rework, but if I had to guess I would bet it hasn’t. My reason for imparting my suggestion of beach boy is because funny fishing rod.
I remember there being a pull move, and a unblockable move right after seems fair and balanced. I also remember there being a pink move that never hits anyone at all, no matter how many times you use it (unless I’m remembering wrong). This is all with increased m1 and m2 range as well, plus a block breaking projectile. Add a broken spec to this and it might just be the most underrated and geriatric thing in YBA.
I really like this series, as I'd assume eclipse is still popular in the YBA community and I imagine he's basically showing off older, still strong and good stands to the new gen of YBA who just run around with an unga bunga brain and mash buttons i.e: at 11:47
Beach boy is the most untouched stand in YBA as far as I remember. I had quit a bit after the Stone Free update, so I’m not totally sure.
Even though several stands have been reworked, the "new gen" reworks are on a completely different level. Like 6p has been reworked but it was long enough ago that I still classify it as old or at least somewhat old yba. Same with magicians red, though I wouldn't say that it's bad.
Cover TWAU, very solid stand but very outdated besides a couple visual changes, i havent touched the game in a good bit so i'm not sure if twau is still considered good but hey, from what i remember it was really simple and effective so yeah would be cool to see that
Why does Eclipse sound so sad in this 😭😭😭😭 he’s not sick, he’s just trying to cover up the tears from playing yba 😭😭😭😭😭
i would just love you ranting about cream, i myself have basicly just discoverd how much fun cream can be to play againts players who cant really grasp the concept of not wasting your dash.
You could do purple haze. Its just bulb breaker ground punch and m1s
Bro eclipse when you out king crimsons them in when you started talking about it I literally got chill bumps. Please keep doing that edits it’s amazing.
Use White Snake
If it still isn't reworked, then the stand is older than time itself
*I know you didn't really like WS when you played yba constantly back when it was good but it's older than time
An old stand that has most likely hasn't been touched is probably gold experience. As far as I know the only thing changed about it is adding a kick barrage, and finally fixing whatever the hell the frog punch move is called.
Ill drop a suggestion for this series being C-Moon, it's a stand with only TWO damage moves, a counter and a self buff that can be blocked and canceled. it has it's one trick but other then that its linear and very easy to beat once you figure out what to parry and or block
Cmoon is arguably the best stand in YBA rn if not top 3 easily
@@WiggleMan1234 Not saying it isn't technically good, I'm saying that it has a little amount of moves and definitely boring to play, just because its effective at what it does, does
not mean that it isn't in need of touch ups, possible new moves and or different animations / visual effects
@@redmagnet7262 it has 5 actually but 3 of them have crazy stun and 2 of them do crazy damage whilst being a very quick stand with arguably the best mobility in the game second only to HP.
It also debuffs your enemy
D4C, Purple Haze, Hermit Purple, Heirophant Green, Whitesnake, and Tusk are all stands that i'd like to see that would fit the requirements of this series. More specifically, stands like SCR, GER, GE, and TWAU would probably be less fun to make a video on, as well as GE/R having received some changes, but not a full moveset rework.
As a guy who used Cream a lot (even suggested the old Cream + Pluck BoB, which I still stand by being good before the Pluck rework), and as someone who played YBA again just to try Cream out with the new stuff, while I think it holds up surprisingly well still, it honestly should get a rework. Void Surprise is still great especially because people don't seem to realize wasting your dash is a thing, which Cream takes advantage of perfectly. However, it's been the same since *the release of YBA*. Back in Febuary of 2019. Almost five years. That's crazy to me how it's never been touched ONCE in terms of anything new gameplay related. So I pray for the love of God it get reworks but also not, because of the fact it will most certainly be just another OP heavy combo based Stand.
A lot of the old stands have good viability due to the lack of punishment you can do to the user if they make a mistake, but on the other side the older stands can punish hard. There is only one cancellable and parriable move KC has. That's where KC's punishment ends. The rest are unpunishable moves that you can throw out for free, and it has exceptionally low cooldowns.
KC also has a really cheap skill tree, and the last 2-3 upgrades of TE and the last one of Epitaph are completely optional and not vital to the moveset. The same low cost of points quality is shared with a lot of old really good stands (SP, WS, C-Moon, Cream, MR)
I'd love to see purple haze here. Like 2 years ago I still remember winning a fight against a sptw using purple haze
Act 4 vampire is something ive been playing around with as of late, and boy it is SUPER fun.
Bruford into beatdown will never stop being funny to me.
i think king crimson used to have a destruction effect during time erase at launch (because you can see it happens in the trailer) but for whatever reason it was removed
I really liked king crimson when i use to use it. I think YBA would be more popular is uzu added boats!
shawty trifling she must be the boat stream
5:33 excuse me eclipse but wtf happened here in the background
2:00 man, the jacko plat was tryharding a little too and still died xd
a option for the next OSO could be one of the whitesnake evolutions (whitesnake, c-moon, made in heaven) from my knowledge of what has become of this game i don't think any of them got touched. maybe even long episode covering all evolutions
6:50 it did warp the enviroment on the launch, but it was hella buggy, so Uzu got rid of it
Ah kc, best experience I had with a stand before leaving roblox in general.
I used to use kc boxing, fight insanely agressive with the spec and m1s, and use epitaph and time erase as 'dodges'. TE to dodge WA ice, TE to dodge beatdowns, I think TE to dodge Go Beyond, TE to dodge heavy punch just to piss people off, and occasionally just use TE and stand there. Was a great way to use endlag on heavy moves and to just be annoying in general. No clue if I won a decent amount of matches but what truly matters is the message you are giving out
This might not be a not so old stand but i think we should give a episode to the hand that stand has been as long as i can remember just 2 moves
I don't think you can refuse the offer. The world, eclipse, your actual favorite stand that you have fun playing
Well to be honest every stand in YBA needs a rework they've got messy coding that breaks and bad hitboxes lol, mainly the bd's I'd like to see a TW review though because that stand heavily needs a rework I'm tired of seeing the same stuff Kicks, Knives, Bad Road Roller, they only give my man TW 3 moves. xd
nevermind, you did sticky fingers. (i just heard it.)
My next suggestion would be GER, i know you made like 5 videos on that stand but rn its just run away for heal, land counter, deal half your opponent's hp in 2 moves. This stand is just braindead and boring as hell for both the one using it and the one fighting against it which is a shame considering that its the one of the strongest stands in jojo and also my favourite one.
How about purple smoke, a stand nobody uses, with the new vamp spec seeing as blood could prolly help it.
maybe, hp next? old main cuz 1 of ur reviews
uhhh wait a second is sc/scr still broken???? or is scr "balanced" now compared to the new stands i dont think they got any changes until like uh 2020 when scr got a nerf maybe not sc because he got a rework awhile back
i think aerosmith is at the top of my rework list, you may think "why?" but let me remind you the 60% of your hp blockbreaking barrage is balanced out by the fact the other move it has just doesnt work 90% of the time. idk how well it would work for an OSO, maybe it'd be miserable or maybe you'd get a real kick out of pressing e on someone who doesnt know how to press f
I personally think Aerosmith would be a great idea for this.
Only 3 actual damaging moves. Only vola barrage has really changed, yknow. Though overall it feels like it does the same damage, just lasts shorter.
Im gonna hop in to defend king crimson real quick actually. Mind you this is looking at it in old yba.
In the past as you said m1s were much more important and m1 trades were very important. A lot of stands were kinda classified as m1 stands, meaning they got the majority of their damage through said m1s. Stands like twoh sp sptw and of course the king crimsons. Kcs moveset is designed in a way where you get the most out of your m1s, which can be seen as your 'basic' attack. Epitaph lets you evade so you can get more m1s, chop lets you armor so you can get more m1s. Time erase lets you do a 5050 on a knockback or block break usually, the latter letting you get off your m1s. Effects wise it is dated sure, but I'm looking at the design of it and how it plays.
Simply put, in the old meta of up close back and forth m1 trades kc had a lot of tools that play off it in interesting ways. You were not concerned about your lack of offensive moves because they were made up for by m1s most of the time and you had not much need for anything else.
Didnt talk about impale but without the cheese the move was kinda meh (i guess a knockdown finisher?) and with the cheese it was stupid as fuck
Hey, Eclipse, I like the video a lot, since king crimson/king crimson req are my fav stands. Keep up the good work.
Ngl i feel like beach boy would be a pretty good stand for this series, It's got 4(?) moves and no barrage, and it almost entirely relies on your spec, so basicly if your enemy barrages you you're donezo
I think mr president would be a good pick. do what you want with it.
you know has d4c or d4c:lt gotten at all any attention i dont think they got ANYTHING throughout the whole game no buffs no nerfs to my knowledge
Do mih since it bassicaly received no change since it was released asside from nerfing the infinite double accel and was the front page of the game for more than 1.5 years
That move you mentioned remembers me of the undertale games like soul shatters or alternate batlegrounds, they have been using that since long time ago and i never see it on any other game.
(edit) i am refering to erase attack)
They put an exclamation mark over your head and gives you like 2 seconds or more depending on the move.
Watching the background footage I kept thinking "Why doesnt he Eye Jab???" I should get off TCA some time.
to be fair, the magician red rw didn’t nuke the stand, it is still pretty op even if it got “reworked”
btw if you dont know the key stand has an insta kill move when you kidnap use pluck B move and then it sends them into the void so they die
I'd say Love Train might be a pretty good stand for this. To my knowledge, he's basically been the same since he came out with the exception of a longer cooldown on the Love train ability itself and fixing the fact that people could heal themselves off the clones and the counter.
I find it funny Eclipse sounds a little more upbeat and happier when he's sick.
i feel like tusk act 4 would fit this, idk if its ever been re-worked and its personally too much work for so little
Why does Eclipse whispering "Old Stand Obituary" sound so menacing?
I might be wrong but I don't think that Rhcp got any sort of rework, kust buffs. So after eclipse has done all the other highly requested stands, I'd like to see red hot chilli pepper next
The hand seems like it would be very interesting oso video to make
If you use epitaph at the same time as chop, it is un-cancelable and will likely be able to confirm impale, or a move on your spec like pierce strike. I know this because my first ever stand was king crimson.
Could you do tw that could be a good one
Eclipse needed to pay his bills again lol
What is the song played on the 14:06 ???? I thought about Omori's good ending song, but idk if it is
This stand definitely deserves a rework even if it’s a minor one
Although I like to play it a lot, using beach boy feels like I'm always playing at a disadvantage, as well as the projectiles being weird (the rod throw seems to teleport and stall in the air sometimes, and the hook pierce's bleed upgrade doesn't even proc most of the time), and normal rod pull being almost unlandable (unless they're ragdolled, but paragon said that that is getting removed). While auto rod pull is pretty good to, well, 'pull' in people to then combo them, if they parry it (which is easy to do so), they're point blank to you and you're stunned so, die, I guess. Beach boy mainly plays like a zoner, which is confusing why no one plays it, considering the amount of 'running away' and 'chucking out moves' people do nowadays. I usually go beach boy spin for the damage, but I run out of skill points and don't have any for golden skin, so if they get in, you pretty much die. But the damage buff you get from the maxed spin charge is fairly decent (also pretty sure this is getting nerfed too), so you're a glass cannon, but instead of cannon balls, you shoot steel balls, hooks, and fishing rods. The counter from spin is also helpful. I really like the extended range of the m1s, they're really good for zoning and tacking on additional damage (although it deals 5 damage against a pluck user, and about 3.8 against a boxing user) as well as giving a very small amount of stun to (maybe) cancel some of their moves. To conclude, while they should fix the jank and maybe give it a new move or something, I do believe that beach boy is kinda fun to use, because I'm able to get into the mind of the average yba player, which is running away the whole time and chucking shit at them until they die. I also like having the range with the (janky) projectiles and the (incredibly low damage) extended range m1s to be able to either zone, or hit my opponent from a range in which I normally wouldn't be able to.
Beware the white album
My favourite stands right now are Silver Chariot and White Snake, just because they're so fun to use and that they haven't been changed since they were added to the game, hope you do a vid on them when you want to.
Would be cool if we saw a OSO on Golden experience requiem I think it’s just a pretty cool stand because it’s a one of a kind. You just control the battle field if you can play him right
If people don’t respect GER abilities you can easily set them up to get hard punisn, you have healing for you and your teammates , RTZ straight up gives I frames while stopping all time related moves and the counter is perfect complimenting its life forms. Despite GER being one of my favorite stands it still has one problem the awakening it’s really strong but I think it’s a little to strong people literally run away from you when you pop it just slows down the game or what not. It would be nice to see the awakening straight up removed and GER gets a destructive power buff it always bugged me how GE did more damage. but yeah have a nice day for anybody who read this
It would be cool if we did a blast in the past and reflect how strong it used to be
You can tell how used to being able to run away and spam moves the whole match that RHCP is
I’m not gonna lie KC reminded me that while you and us as a coomunity like old YBA and hate button mashing it’s been an issue since the beginning of YBA with King Crimson One Shot Boxing combo or Timestop being an auto one shot
Really if they made even a health based evasive on YBA and not make it easy to catch someone after the evasive it would be a whole lot more fun even as the make it easier and easier to make one shot combos
Yeah king crimson was good for the time, but unfortunately that time is passed, and it is unfortunate knowing when they do update him he'll get the scary monsters treatment