I was the fiddle getting coached this game. I loved the coaching and sometimes I go back to watch it just for shits and giggles. Hope Neace is doing well/getting better with his time off :).
damn, this plat level coaching really hit the sweet spot, you have someone who can pilot their champ and move their camera, you identified the adjustment perfectly, you got practice tool AND immediately understanding implementing it in the game. Just... fckn amazing!
13:50 The reason it works is because he touches the wall and keeps the golem aggro, you can see it as the aggro bar barely starts when they appear. He is in the ''circle'' of the golems ⭕👍
I feel dumb bro, I didn't even know what the aggro bar was. Granted i took a couple year break from league and only recently got back but how fricken long has that been a thing and ive had no idea..
@@stantonscott The circle around jungle monsters represents their aggro range, and a champion needs to be in the circle to trigger the monster's aggro. If u step out, the aggro resets
@@7Xenos7 I understand the circle, the bar above the monster was new to me, i guess im not noticing the touching the wall part enough? I haven't tried since the first two times, i don't play fiddle anyway so i was only going to learn it to play a couple games like that.
It also works because he is in the ring, the follower you get as a jungle stays on the golems. That dmg over the wall allows fiddles execute on his E to do more dmg since they are lower health. I've gotten it where I don't even need to do another auto at the end, they just die from the followers last hit.
also red goes in the bush, and you lose sight of it for a split second, that split second allows for the follower to stay on the golems, if you do this where red isn't in the bush the follower will stay on red instead of golems.
That Fokin awesome mate. I gave up on league but God damn man. You make me want to play again. I must consume more content like this. I'm hungry feed me with content. Quality content like this. I'll eat everything.
Its good to know for understanding other people's game states and where they're going to be, especially if you're a jungler, then you might be able to mess with them a lot. Its what I used to do as a Mundo jungler, but I haven't played since the previous season.
As a fiddle main in plat, just like the student, this video will be great. Btw, for the Fiddle clear, it is not so easy to always pull off reliably. And since you need to full clear anyway, if you start botside, you will get your 6 upon your second blue, right before enemy bot is 6. You can then do a great ult gank bot side. I prefer to still start blue with leash, and then do the red + golems strat with 2 points in w, this way you can reliably clear it with no fuss and you will still do it by 3:00 or less if efficient.
it actually is very reliable and consistent if done right, the trick is to right-click the small krug once w has ended and you automatically walk into the right spot
@@YS58329 Yes, but the clear speed itself is basically the same when you do it the other way around, start blue to red, lvl 4 red golems, into scuttle or top gank.
@@KaycCal the clear speed would be similar but clearing that way gives you the opportunity to go ward enemy blue or river before the enemy jg gets level 3 and tries to gank because you'd be done with red side at 2:20 which is the fastest in the game, you reset after warding and go blue and end up at scuttle 3:40. It is especially useful when you are against a lv3 ganking jg who WILL gank lv3, which I guess doesn't really exist in low elo so it might not make a difference for lower ranks.
@@YS58329 While you sure can ward enemy blue, what would be the reason to do so ? Especially when you know he started at his red, no need to put a ward. Fiddle loses most early trades. Why would you want to go face check enemy jungle? This tempo is good, yes, but only if you can use it to either gank first or take scuttle control first. Since Fiddle full clear anyways, better to do Red second, so you can keep the buff longer as you then go top for a gank, or then rotate back mid/botside.
Im a fid main and I had this clear for a bit but this is because this is the fastest clear in season 12 the blue clear where you start wolf and dual suck every camp because you could pull camps further, but because of that nerf fiddle clear has been bad if you do it the old way. Glad to see this is the new way.
just took this into ranked (after a little tool time with Tim) and it embarrassed the enemy jg by how badly his farm/gank/obj was in comparison. the early clear didn't work out perfect because my team went full monkey and died 0/3 before 1:00, but it was fast enough to catch up and start invading. OP love it
Funny how tiny little things can put you so far ahead in the game. I play top lane and it reminds me of what Alois said in his coaching about how a large part of the game is dictated by the first 4 waves, and that applies to other roles too in that a lot of the game is dictated by the first 5 minutes.
just did this clear in 13.21, i use W twice on blue then run to gromp and smite blue to finish. im able to finish the entire clear in 1 min and 40 seconds. pretty insane how cheesy the clear is
Im looking into trying to learn new junglers because I cant carry silver 3 lobbys hard enough with warwick or amumu. This really helped. Im gonna have to try this
I'm so tired of it.. I tried it practice tool for over an hour but the little blue ghost doesnt attack the crugs for some reason and the big one always resets. the ghost just stays on attack the redbuff constantly, how do I fix this?
Yo Clientperson Broxah clears gromp before blue to make sure camps respawn in order. So if you don't get a gank off and recall to full clear it's ready right after wolves. No clue how it ties in to fiddle but it could be useful
You need to E first then Q when you re coming out of vision cause that way the fear duration is longer and the damage is bigger, your E automatically fears them if u re in a bush or over pit
I think have jungler's who can utilize their kits in unique ways that take skill to get an advantage are great and very healthy for the game. It's champs like Ivern that have a cheesy method that doesn't take any skill where it is boring and broken and unhealthy for the game.
So I am doing the exact same thing as in the vidoe, in exact same order. Every time the same timing, exact same. I even made sure I stop in exactly the same spot each time I aggro the stones over the wall. Yes sometimes they die but most of the time they ran away with like 10hp? Why? I could get it if I did it with different timing or position but it's EXACT SAME each time. The fuck? Did anybody try this and can explain this to me? Or do I have wrong runes or something? I'm out of ideas and it's driving me mad.
from when is this footage? I tried this right now and big golem takes no damage. Always ends up after smite on like 300+ hp idk if its runes or something but golems are not dying at all.
both of them are kinda right but the reason he didnt get the first time cause he aa the red 3 times like the video showed on the blue side clear so he was higher level all you have to do is make sure to patience bar doesn't run out on krugs so you just walk there immediately and you will be fine without spamming anything. good student tho he picked it up once you figured it out right away ! cheers
This shows off the reason why the coaching is $ 350 and why some idiots get triggered: Neace recognizes a “basic” issue and solves it. Of course some people will say “oh, but the issue was just a little nail that had to be hammered down? Anybody can hammer down a nail!” Neace, you could send out invoices saying “coaching: $10. Recognizing the fucking nail: $ 340”
That's exactly what I was going to say, talking about practice is all fine and good but my biggest struggle and it looks like most people's biggest struggle is finding out what to practice -- if you practice the wrong thing you're just doubly wasting your time
I don't play fiddle but have never had to practice much on clears with champs i play decently, i just spent twenty minutes practicing this clear on blue side and can't get it. Not sure if I'm f ing up the q or what, big krug comes into vision, auto small, q,smite, w and it usually runs off with 1-200 health, I've spent just as long watching the clear replayed and I dont understand what im doing wrong.
@@NEACEi i otp fiddle. Fastest clear is: raptors -> Red + krugs -> wolves -> blue + gromp If you get it pixel perfect you finish clear at 3:05, no other champ besides ivern can do that. You can get a bot gank before scutte spawn. Note: get E lv 2, E + W + Smite big krug over wall, aa red once, aa big krug once and finish with w. Always finish camps and start the next one with same w. Blue + gromp double clear is still possible but kinda hard, you have to move + kite pixel perfect, on red side its easier, on Blue side its nearly impossible cause map is not mirrored perfectly
@@MrPaperVader Thank you! I just tested it, and blue side aa the big krug after ew smite was the trick! it gives me more than enough time to auto attack the big krug after he comes into view.
I just learned it. You have to auto the small krug when it comes around, Q Smite Auto the big krug, drain auto big krug, drain red and small krugs. Chances are, you're missing 1 auto which weakens your W which leads to not killing big krug.
Let’s be clear Neace, the reason it started working is because his Q does % current hp. Everything else (smite, auto, W) is constant damage. So Q needs to go out first, and that’s why he thought spamming it worked. He just used it first. Good vid though!
Officially giving up on solo q. 4 straight games of S grade hyper carrying just for entire team to terribly troll and dog it. Not worth. Solo Q is absolute trash. I'll try team play
5:00 why I quit LoL... The toxic behavior isnt the shit talking in chat, it's the push for banning people arbitrarily, and Riot being the most toxic of all, encourages this and allows it.
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I was the fiddle getting coached this game. I loved the coaching and sometimes I go back to watch it just for shits and giggles. Hope Neace is doing well/getting better with his time off :).
Same, wishing the best for NEACE. What rank are you at now?
This is probably one of your best videos, client genuinely learned a shit ton, and that macro at the end just shows you know the game.
Its actually based on how well you can understand the game, neace wouldnt be able to cover as much since the client may not be able to remember
I don't jg but I really appreciated this. Makes me want to try jg
Checked this guys recent games and he's crushing it on fid rn. Hope he continues to do well.
How did you look? I can’t find him
@@Ash-my4gf He may gave changed his name then
damn, this plat level coaching really hit the sweet spot,
you have someone who can pilot their champ and move their camera,
you identified the adjustment perfectly,
you got practice tool AND immediately understanding implementing it in the game.
Just... fckn amazing!
NEACE I LOVE YOU, THE WAY U MAKE THESE EPIDSODES SENDS ME THROUGH A BLISSFUL JOURNEY!!!!
you're so whimsical I love you so much
i remember you having us practice fiddle clear in BootCamp 2 this brought back memories
yep indeed! til this day im watching bootcamp 2 content on the bc client :D learning so much from those videos we got from it
I remember the first boot camp with the old mundo clear
13:50 The reason it works is because he touches the wall and keeps the golem aggro, you can see it as the aggro bar barely starts when they appear. He is in the ''circle'' of the golems ⭕👍
I feel dumb bro, I didn't even know what the aggro bar was. Granted i took a couple year break from league and only recently got back but how fricken long has that been a thing and ive had no idea..
@@stantonscott The circle around jungle monsters represents their aggro range, and a champion needs to be in the circle to trigger the monster's aggro. If u step out, the aggro resets
@@7Xenos7 I understand the circle, the bar above the monster was new to me, i guess im not noticing the touching the wall part enough? I haven't tried since the first two times, i don't play fiddle anyway so i was only going to learn it to play a couple games like that.
It also works because he is in the ring, the follower you get as a jungle stays on the golems. That dmg over the wall allows fiddles execute on his E to do more dmg since they are lower health. I've gotten it where I don't even need to do another auto at the end, they just die from the followers last hit.
also red goes in the bush, and you lose sight of it for a split second, that split second allows for the follower to stay on the golems, if you do this where red isn't in the bush the follower will stay on red instead of golems.
17:16 hearing the keyboard makes it so much better, this client is def not afraid to press his buttons
The practice into perfect clearing in game and the heavy metal sound track in background 😮😮😮 something special about this particular video.
Even im proud of this dude. what a coaching sesh.
Fiddle q does current health damage. U gotta let the q go before smiting so it does more damage.
Thank you so much for this comment! I've been spamming q smite w and now when i wait for q to land its super easy.
@@feracobama9927 you're welcome mate. Enjoy!
Broxah does this clear i believe.
i like how you sponsor yourself and we are literally watching what you are advertising for fun. perfect business model /applaud
19:31 "a whole bunch of turbulence!" 😂😂😂😂 I got the refference
That Fokin awesome mate. I gave up on league but God damn man. You make me want to play again. I must consume more content like this. I'm hungry feed me with content. Quality content like this. I'll eat everything.
I dont play any of this stuff but its still awesome to see! Great vid NEACE
Its good to know for understanding other people's game states and where they're going to be, especially if you're a jungler, then you might be able to mess with them a lot. Its what I used to do as a Mundo jungler, but I haven't played since the previous season.
man i got so happy for this mother fucker when he finally nailed it GOOD SHIT WPGG JGL DIFF
Ayeeee finally a fiddle coaching, nice! Now I want a fiddle mid/top coaching lol
I love the non-chalant unemotional 'Hi' whenever he's killing someone. Just screams excitement
As a fiddle main in plat, just like the student, this video will be great.
Btw, for the Fiddle clear, it is not so easy to always pull off reliably. And since you need to full clear anyway, if you start botside, you will get your 6 upon your second blue, right before enemy bot is 6. You can then do a great ult gank bot side. I prefer to still start blue with leash, and then do the red + golems strat with 2 points in w, this way you can reliably clear it with no fuss and you will still do it by 3:00 or less if efficient.
it actually is very reliable and consistent if done right, the trick is to right-click the small krug once w has ended and you automatically walk into the right spot
@@YS58329 Yes, but the clear speed itself is basically the same when you do it the other way around, start blue to red, lvl 4 red golems, into scuttle or top gank.
@@KaycCal the clear speed would be similar but clearing that way gives you the opportunity to go ward enemy blue or river before the enemy jg gets level 3 and tries to gank because you'd be done with red side at 2:20 which is the fastest in the game, you reset after warding and go blue and end up at scuttle 3:40. It is especially useful when you are against a lv3 ganking jg who WILL gank lv3, which I guess doesn't really exist in low elo so it might not make a difference for lower ranks.
@@YS58329 While you sure can ward enemy blue, what would be the reason to do so ?
Especially when you know he started at his red, no need to put a ward.
Fiddle loses most early trades. Why would you want to go face check enemy jungle?
This tempo is good, yes, but only if you can use it to either gank first or take scuttle control first.
Since Fiddle full clear anyways, better to do Red second, so you can keep the buff longer as you then go top for a gank, or then rotate back mid/botside.
That was great, wouldn't mind seeing more of this Fiddle main, love it!
Love ya NEACE! Would like to see more of these clears, different indepth way of looking at the game :)
Im a fid main and I had this clear for a bit but this is because this is the fastest clear in season 12 the blue clear where you start wolf and dual suck every camp because you could pull camps further, but because of that nerf fiddle clear has been bad if you do it the old way. Glad to see this is the new way.
This was a great session.
just took this into ranked (after a little tool time with Tim) and it embarrassed the enemy jg by how badly his farm/gank/obj was in comparison. the early clear didn't work out perfect because my team went full monkey and died 0/3 before 1:00, but it was fast enough to catch up and start invading. OP love it
His screen is so dark, its like a DC movie
xD
I used to be great at fiddle clearing. Then I stopped playing him and now I need a refresher.
Funny how tiny little things can put you so far ahead in the game. I play top lane and it reminds me of what Alois said in his coaching about how a large part of the game is dictated by the first 4 waves, and that applies to other roles too in that a lot of the game is dictated by the first 5 minutes.
fundamentals baby
THE TURBULENCE!
This is so beautiful bro! We get to watch a man level up in real time. Also a dunk on all the haters.
"A whole bunch of turbulance" that killed me! Great coaching.
that intro... Fine i'll fricken sub. geeze
Gotta pump up those coaching prices
just did this clear in 13.21, i use W twice on blue then run to gromp and smite blue to finish. im able to finish the entire clear in 1 min and 40 seconds. pretty insane how cheesy the clear is
Im looking into trying to learn new junglers because I cant carry silver 3 lobbys hard enough with warwick or amumu. This really helped. Im gonna have to try this
i tried this fiddle jungle strat in practice tool like 20 times the best i got was golem surviving with 60 hp before resetting for fuck SAKE
Really cool watch, and really cool application.
This makes me happy and excited
Practice makes perfect🔥
I swear I thought I subscribed to your channel, since I watch it a lot, but now I'm blaming my recent loss streak on that reason
I'm so tired of it.. I tried it practice tool for over an hour but the little blue ghost doesnt attack the crugs for some reason and the big one always resets. the ghost just stays on attack the redbuff constantly, how do I fix this?
I’m just here to place a ward guys… 🎉🎉🎉 ward gang!
Yo Clientperson
Broxah clears gromp before blue to make sure camps respawn in order.
So if you don't get a gank off and recall to full clear it's ready right after wolves. No clue how it ties in to fiddle but it could be useful
okay that fiddlestick janky jungle is pretty neat im gonna have to practise this lol
this guy is a squirrel, keeps chipping on those nuts every time he has to think of a response
i remember i used to air blade train keyblade train for hours in practice tool way back in the day can confirm learn practice then execute is king
This clear is crazy!!!
This solo q hans no sene, after 2 k game ai have wore rank than i start, in each game more and more boosters
I wish i could find his recent games. Would like to see his progress
You need to E first then Q when you re coming out of vision cause that way the fear duration is longer and the damage is bigger, your E automatically fears them if u re in a bush or over pit
wow this is amazing. Nice shit Neace
first champ i ever bought was fiddlesticks to play him mid then saw malzahar and went from there. I didn’t have a clue was jg was at that time.
What runes do you pick?
Does he stream on Facebook????
Finally Neace! A proper student!
the GOAT coach
I think have jungler's who can utilize their kits in unique ways that take skill to get an advantage are great and very healthy for the game. It's champs like Ivern that have a cheesy method that doesn't take any skill where it is boring and broken and unhealthy for the game.
WHAT IS THIS PLAYLIST I MUST KNOW
great video
Top tier dcontent
This video is impressive. Is fiddle a faster jg clear than karthus? I want to try this.
I don't actually play League, but I enjoy this content :). Easy sub.
So I am doing the exact same thing as in the vidoe, in exact same order. Every time the same timing, exact same. I even made sure I stop in exactly the same spot each time I aggro the stones over the wall. Yes sometimes they die but most of the time they ran away with like 10hp? Why? I could get it if I did it with different timing or position but it's EXACT SAME each time. The fuck?
Did anybody try this and can explain this to me? Or do I have wrong runes or something? I'm out of ideas and it's driving me mad.
Are you making sure q hits before smiting? You can maybe show down the snow a little bit, but make sure you q hits first.
That fucking clear!
whats that metal song in the background?
How do you zoom all the way out like that in replays? is that a mod or something?
ive practices it now in a 1,5 hour now i think i got it :)
he is doing 2 autos on the raptor tho before red, he only needs 1
Your best video ever
I miss getting level 1 dragon.
20:14 you need to be off combat for 2 seconds i think to be able to fear.
from when is this footage? I tried this right now and big golem takes no damage. Always ends up after smite on like 300+ hp idk if its runes or something but golems are not dying at all.
bro this is literally like this week. keep practicing. do exactly as you see in the video.
Q has a travel time make sure you hit that before smite
Normal first clear for Fiddle is 3:04, not 3:21. And record is 2:57.
12:10 - practicing red start clear
Being Korean is the real baby diff.
i wanna work for neace so bad, i gotta get challanger first though
Took me 2hours to learn this clear. Another idea would take lv2 E instead of q.
both of them are kinda right but the reason he didnt get the first time cause he aa the red 3 times like the video showed on the blue side clear so he was higher level all you have to do is make sure to patience bar doesn't run out on krugs so you just walk there immediately and you will be fine without spamming anything. good student tho he picked it up once you figured it out right away ! cheers
this is patch? anyone can tell me cuz i really cant do it, its nearly impossible to do it, but probably its patched.
This shows off the reason why the coaching is $ 350 and why some idiots get triggered: Neace recognizes a “basic” issue and solves it. Of course some people will say “oh, but the issue was just a little nail that had to be hammered down? Anybody can hammer down a nail!” Neace, you could send out invoices saying “coaching: $10. Recognizing the fucking nail: $ 340”
That's exactly what I was going to say, talking about practice is all fine and good but my biggest struggle and it looks like most people's biggest struggle is finding out what to practice -- if you practice the wrong thing you're just doubly wasting your time
I don't play fiddle but have never had to practice much on clears with champs i play decently, i just spent twenty minutes practicing this clear on blue side and can't get it. Not sure if I'm f ing up the q or what, big krug comes into vision, auto small, q,smite, w and it usually runs off with 1-200 health, I've spent just as long watching the clear replayed and I dont understand what im doing wrong.
Same here man, same here
@@KhadiPlays I'll try again for another half an hour if you try again.
Tryda jungle clear tips?
When the Dantes collab?
My loss % went to 150% 😂
Neace how do you zoom out like that in replays?
Ngl it would really help if I new
CTRL + SHIFT + Y or Z (depending on QWERTZ or QWERTY keyboard-layout) to unlock it
This video just spawned a fuck ton of fid jg mains, lol.
it had been weird if a bunch of nidalea has shown up instead :o
19:29
How is he banned and havent played in a week?
i just tried that there a not i wanna add * just auto the big one when your w cooldown ends then q smite w* ez pz
The music is too loud I am I the only one unable to focus on what is being said? :/
Now people in my lobbies will not ban rengar to ban this lol.
If you just use E instead of Q you can do it WAY EASIER. Just E W over the wall on crugs and you don't even need to AA at the end.
did you test it?
@@NEACEi do it this way as well and it works
@@NEACEthat is a tutorial on TH-cam that show the clear
@@NEACEi i otp fiddle. Fastest clear is: raptors -> Red + krugs -> wolves -> blue + gromp
If you get it pixel perfect you finish clear at 3:05, no other champ besides ivern can do that. You can get a bot gank before scutte spawn.
Note: get E lv 2, E + W + Smite big krug over wall, aa red once, aa big krug once and finish with w. Always finish camps and start the next one with same w. Blue + gromp double clear is still possible but kinda hard, you have to move + kite pixel perfect, on red side its easier, on Blue side its nearly impossible cause map is not mirrored perfectly
@@MrPaperVader Thank you! I just tested it, and blue side aa the big krug after ew smite was the trick! it gives me more than enough time to auto attack the big krug after he comes into view.
do i just suck or did they fiz this clear
I just learned it. You have to auto the small krug when it comes around, Q Smite Auto the big krug, drain auto big krug, drain red and small krugs. Chances are, you're missing 1 auto which weakens your W which leads to not killing big krug.
Let’s be clear Neace, the reason it started working is because his Q does % current hp. Everything else (smite, auto, W) is constant damage. So Q needs to go out first, and that’s why he thought spamming it worked. He just used it first.
Good vid though!
Officially giving up on solo q. 4 straight games of S grade hyper carrying just for entire team to terribly troll and dog it. Not worth. Solo Q is absolute trash. I'll try team play
I subbed so quick. 1:14
Ok this guy did a great job and deserves plat but some of the ppl he was against wtf!??! This is what i except from iron (im in iron)
Unsub : Goes back to losers Q
Resub : Wins ever single game in match history, hits D4, acts like the champaign guy in third place
We all owe him $350 now btw
5:00 why I quit LoL... The toxic behavior isnt the shit talking in chat, it's the push for banning people arbitrarily, and Riot being the most toxic of all, encourages this and allows it.