@@PeteOfDarknessI'm pretty sure that's what it's a reference too. Arkhan Land has become a meme and spawned a fuck tonne of other jokes, like Emperor Jimmy Space and his Space Marines.
Mark nine armour could be the Grey Knight's Aegis pattern. Only the Grey Knights are supposed to be "classified" hence why it's not publicly acknowledged as the ninth in the series.
mk9 could be alot of things. But I think the simplest explination could actualy be that mk9 is what "improvised" (as opposed to "production) mk5 was (mixes of mk2, 3, 4, 5, and 6), but for armour that includes mk 7 & 8. Its really a GW imposed rabbit hole that could be anything until they bloody tell us.
You forgot to mention that the Deathwatch is the only chapter that uses the Mk.VIII as standard. Being specialist xenos hunters under the authority of the Inquisition apparently gets you some really nice kit.
Not actually true. The minotaurs also have alot of it due to thier good supply and being the lords or terra lapdogs. Its also not quite standard in the watch, its just what GW modelled our vet kit with. If you look at Kill Team Cassius, they much better how how varied DW armour can actually be. And in the old Deathwatch RPG books multiple marks of armour where included as possible wargear. Some watch fortresses are well supplied and probably do have access to full forts of mk8, others are in a bad state and really have to scavenge for it.
I love throwing different marks of armor on my Marines. It makes them feel like they've seen millennia of war, and it adds a bit of needed visual diversity to the Primaris range
We really need mark II. Im tired of printing it when I need whole army if Heresy Dark Angels and White Scars in it. Love the style and in the lore this mark was the most common in those two legions.
I can only assume cawl called it mark X instead of mark IX was to save a single character anytime he needed to type it out or write it down during the development of it
Id say the problem with the scaling in 40k is purely the human factions fault, such as the imperial guardsmen, and perhaps also the tau.They were just way to big compared to everything else like space marines, orks, eldar, drukhari and more, which were propperly scaled with each other. Now we have the issue of forces like the orks and adeptus custodes being way to small compared to the say, primaris and human factions. Even with the new ork kits they're still too small.
There's something inexplicably beautiful in the ugliness of the Mark V Heresy armor and the chain bayonet attached to the bolter carried by the marine wearing it 🥰 I really wish there was an official plastic range for this armor type, that could be used to make an entire company of dudes in various squad configurations and poses.
Why does mkII go so damned hard? Its just a beautiful and brutal design. Also ironic that the oldest wide-use mark also had the best maneuverability and cable management lol.
This. It's really beautiful armour mark that built the Imperium as first space marines fought in it in Great Crusade from the start and subsequent Heresy
Conspiracy Theory! My guess for the reason it goes from Mk.8 to Mk.10 is so GW had a way to back track on Primaris space marines if it didnt sell as good as older space marines or got too much hate. They could just pivot the spotlight to a still new space marine range but it wouldn't be Primaris, and then just introduce some lore reason as to why Primaris took a back seat on the battlefields.
This was a really nice video, Auspex Tactics. One note: while it is true, that the MK5 was never really developed by GW, it's design elements can be found in many models. Especially the studded armor plates. For example on the Black Templars upgrade sprue.
I am SO mad, that they replaced my beloved Mk III with that gosh darn Deathguard specific offbrand! My beloved grillfaces, gone forever! My 1000 rivets, taken from me!
The retro Rogue Trader era MK VI plate was called MK VIb in one publication, and the MK VI style seen in the Horus Heresy line was listed as MK VId in another publication. The style seen in the tactical marines box / classic MK VI however I have not seen a letter for.
GW: "So see, there is this Horues Heresy, and a whole class of armour is named after it. We also sell a huge variety of kits centered around this Heresy era." Everybody: "So you have a cool plastic kit for that Heresy armour variant in constant production, probably for years, right?" GW: ... Everybody: "RIGHT!?" GW: ... "Here, have some Primaris Lieutenant."
One additional lore tidbit: The Mark 6 armor was actually tested by the 4th legion of Iron Warriors of all people. Needless to say, they absolutely hated it, to the point that Perturabo just gave it all to the Raven Guard at the earliest oppertunity that the 4th and 19th legion met.
@@darko-man8549i’m sorry but the idea Mk. VI was not widespread and was retconned into being so is kind of just wrong. the oldest heresy artwork in existence features Mk. V and Mk. VI, the covers of numerous early heresy novels from a range of legions including Death Guard feature Mk. VI, and the Iron Warriors, Salamanders etc may not have liked it during pre-heresy trials but during the heresy itself everyone was rather less choosy - it’s never stated anywhere that a legion didn’t use certain marks or exclusively used any marks. the black books are all presented from a biased, in universe pro-imperial perspective, and should be read as such and their accuracy should not be taken for granted
I am really interesting to see what they do with mk7. It is the Iconic armour for Marine, but doesn't really fit in either Modern 40k (if Firstborn make it into 11th ed Marine Codex I will be shocked) or Heresy (Unless they release an up scale mk7 as a "Veteran Tactical Marines" kit, or expanded to the Great Scouring).
Lore but miniature focused. I love it! You should definitely capitalize on this! I'd like to see one on Imperial Weapon patterns such as the Bolters associated with certain marine armour marks.
The mark 8 was designed explicitly because in the years after the Heresy, chapters were noticing their Marines ended up being a head shorter in combat against Traitor marines.
It makes perfect sense that the missing primarchs stole Big E's blueprints for Mk IX armor around 800.M30 and are now living as affluent drip kings in another galaxy.
I really do Hope Mark VII and Mark VIII get redone. Just give Sternguard and vanguard of mixed Primaris and firstborn and give us Mark VII and Mark VIII exclusive units.
I do think I would have been far nicer to Primaris if they had been “MKX - Phobos” & “MKXI Gravis” then just ignored FB-Primaris BS. 30k has shown us Gw were always willing to keep FB and just upscale them.
I would love if GW released a Mk7 upgrade kit at some point that had a lot of Mk7 helmets. It's such an iconic look, they can't let it disappear. Also loving the HH revamps of the armour marks, hoping that Mk4 will get a redo soon.
Considering that the Mk 3 and 6 got updated and that mark 4 will likely be updated this year as well, i wouldn't be surprised if GW does a update for mark 7.
For the longest time I have believed that the Horus heresy tabletop with expand to the Scowering where will start seeing mk 7 used in mass, and so far it looks like I’m right. I’m betting we will see the return of mk 7 through the Horus heresy/Scowering and then we can proxy them into Warhammer 40K.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegionthere is a lot of ground still to cover in the heresy before reaching the scouring, beta garmon is the focus atm and there’s the potential to revisit earlier campaigns that lack campaign books for heresy 2.0. mk. VII would be out of place any earlier than siege of terra and only ever appropriate for loyalists even then which given heresy’s almost historical wargaming approach could prove an issue
@@Prophetofthe8thLegionthere is still a lot of ground to cover in the heresy itself before moving into the scouring, currently the focus is beta garmon and all the earlier campaigns lack campaign books compatible with heresy 2.0. mk. VII armour would pose some problems because it was only distributed in limited numbers late in the heresy, and only to some loyalist chapters. this would cause problems playing earlier campaigns in a game that is alnost historical wargame adjacent (except abt fictional events) in like playerbase mentality when compared to 40k
The bonding studs never made sense to me. Theyre stated to be to hold other armor plates on, but theyre present on armour of the same thivkness as other panels without the bonding plates. i wouldve loved if they were only present on sections with thicker plating.
I have always assumed Mk IX to be the Aegis Pattern of the Grey Knights. It makes sense in the lore: it has the reinforces neck of the Errant, it was developed after that (in Pandorax for example, Epimethius wears relic plate from Heresy era) and it's more advanced, with hexagramic sigils and such.
I think MK IX power armor is the kind that Alpha Primus wears. He _was_ the first Primaris marine, after all. It makes sense that he’d have the first draft of their armor.
You see I am an OG 40K guy. When the Mk VII came out, I thought oh they had to make them more “Vader” like. I loved the Beakies and I guess that’s why I play Raven Guard 😅 Now that primaris is no longer a key word my intercessors are my new Horus Heresy beakies.
Mark VII remains my favourite. The best looking and most iconic. Love the angry vox grill so much. Even more so considering I really don't like the Primaris look. Also a big fan of the Mark IV.
I really like the Mark 3,5,4 and 8. I'm trying too reboot my Iron Warriors Codex I was making originally for a 9th edition ruleset but games workshops gone and changed the edition again so I gotta start over. Some of the changes have been interesting.
Totally made up theory: they're leaving MK IX empty for their Badab War setting, which will be the new historical game once they've milked the Horus Heresy setting dry. (Realistically it's probably a joke about how Windows and iPhones skipped model numbers)
The other thing about the Mk.II and Mk.III is that the helmet on Crusade Armour was fixed, while the Iron Armour helmet was the first true power armour helmet that turned with its wearer's head
I think the MK X isn't intended to be X as the Roman numeral but X as in the letter. It is the basis of several armor Marks that all fall under the same umbrella, hence the X. But since the Imperium is run by idiots, it ended up being seen as X as in the Roman numeral.
(Not really) Hot take: - Horus Heresy 2 should have heavily focused on the MK5, youknow, the HERESY ARMOUR rather than the MK6 which was mostly used after the heresy. - In 40k, the Marines need to go back to more armour diversity like they used to have in the first born era. To do so simply phase out the Intercessor kits the same way they are phasing out the "Primaris" keyword to settle on a new "normal" where the base marine kit contain a medlay of every armours from 2 to 10. (One Mk2, One Mk3, One Mk4, One Mk5, One Mk6, Two Mk7, One Mk8, Two Mk10). If you can "upgrade" a first born into a primaris, you should be able to "upgrade" the old, revered and iconic armours of the chapter too. The iconic look of a marine will always be the MK7.
The thing about the MkV is that it's not a widespread armour. As mentioned in the video, it is a retroactive definition for many makeshift armour marks made in a hurry. No legion would have used it as their primary plate, as it's not a "true" armour mark in itself. Also, Primaris marines are the new normal. That's just how it is. They won't go back to containing pre-Primaris models. You are of course able to kitbash these customised variants yourself if you so desire.
On the subject of Mk1 Thunder armour: - Of the pre-Primaris suits, this design was the last one to be made. GW needed something that looked crude enough to be seen as a prototype and went with a test figure. The figure was used as an exercise in sculpting chainmail onto marines iirc. - There is another sculpt. It has a small ridge in lieu of a topknot and it carries a power axe instead of a bolter. Honestly, I'd love to see GW explore the Unification Wars in more detail, maybe as a skirmish game or as kits meant for painting projects.
It should be studied how Mk7 went from *THE* Power Armor to the rarest in a few short years. Hell, we're only *just* starting to see the helmet again in recent kits (Sternguard, IC Companion) Why GW ever tried so hard to distance 40k from what was essentially the face of the franchise I'll never understand.
It's insufferable that GW created a Horus Heresy scale in between Firstborn and Primaris. They could have simply pulled the whole range into true-scale (Primaris).
could what the black Templar sword brethren wear be mk 9? it looks different then the mk 10 and with a different helmet, high collar and legs with a flair on the knee joint
I think it's funny that the reason for MK IX armor not existing, is the same reason for Windows 9 not existing. GW just wanted the primaris to be so uber-super-new-high-tech-duper-cool that they just skipped the number 9, because 10 is way better and the armor is obviously such a big advancement.
The fact that Mk 1 didn’t have powered legs really bugs me. Practically ALL of your power comes from your “butt”. You can’t create any significant impact without a solid base. You can’t skip leg day!
Just a small thought but what if Mk9 armor get treated much like Mk5, the "Pre-rift Imperial armor", known for its ability to be highly compatible with all prior STC/ Imperial standard power armor parts and custom parts that used those base parts?
That Mk VII Ultramarine model doesn't look anywhere near squat enough. It took me a minute to realize that it was a mix of the new Mk VI armor with Mk VII bits where appropriate! Anybody know how they got the knees? It looks too neat to have just been a scribed, but I could be wrong
I realy feel the Space Marines lost so much cool visual history with the Primaris. Chapters having centuries old suits if different marks with their own history. Some made from multiple differnt marks. Squads could look really interesting. Primiaris feel to uniform and shiney. Rather undermining the whol feeling the Imperium really struggles to make its tech and every old piece is precious.
Now you tell me only Alpha L had them I just finished painting half of the 20 man mk6 squad as emporors children for killteam and and plan for blood angels other. I might break the heads off for others one day now
I cant believe auspex left out Mark Powerarmour, the tech priest who discovered this awesome technology
This joke is double funny because GW did it unironically with Arkhan Land.
I wonder if Bolt McBolterface was gun designer?
@@PeteOfDarknessI'm pretty sure that's what it's a reference too. Arkhan Land has become a meme and spawned a fuck tonne of other jokes, like Emperor Jimmy Space and his Space Marines.
@@hannahgeraghty4201Also James Workshop.
@@PeteOfDarkness never forget the Emperor's true name Jimmy space
@@PeteOfDarkness Thats the joke
Mark nine armour could be the Grey Knight's Aegis pattern. Only the Grey Knights are supposed to be "classified" hence why it's not publicly acknowledged as the ninth in the series.
That's a good point actually
Mind blow 🤯
mk9 could be alot of things. But I think the simplest explination could actualy be that mk9 is what "improvised" (as opposed to "production) mk5 was (mixes of mk2, 3, 4, 5, and 6), but for armour that includes mk 7 & 8. Its really a GW imposed rabbit hole that could be anything until they bloody tell us.
Space Marine armour runs on windows Os thats why it goes from 8 to 10
Auspex making a lore video is not something I knew I wanted but now I want more
Me too!
It's so good! I would genuinely love if he made videos that just kinda play out like a school history lecture where he goes over big events
The rare lore drops are always appreciated
You forgot to mention that the Deathwatch is the only chapter that uses the Mk.VIII as standard. Being specialist xenos hunters under the authority of the Inquisition apparently gets you some really nice kit.
Not actually true. The minotaurs also have alot of it due to thier good supply and being the lords or terra lapdogs. Its also not quite standard in the watch, its just what GW modelled our vet kit with. If you look at Kill Team Cassius, they much better how how varied DW armour can actually be. And in the old Deathwatch RPG books multiple marks of armour where included as possible wargear.
Some watch fortresses are well supplied and probably do have access to full forts of mk8, others are in a bad state and really have to scavenge for it.
I think it presumed that Mk 9 is a Grey knights Aegis armour as it incorporates parts of Mk 8
This is such a random side quest.
But I appreciate it as a lore nerd.
That mk 7 photoshop looks so good, I hope gw make a rescaled version of the kit eventually
It looked like a kitbash. The bolter, arms, and toes from the beakie armour are all there. It's a good conversion, though. Very subtle.
I love throwing different marks of armor on my Marines. It makes them feel like they've seen millennia of war, and it adds a bit of needed visual diversity to the Primaris range
We really need mark II. Im tired of printing it when I need whole army if Heresy Dark Angels and White Scars in it. Love the style and in the lore this mark was the most common in those two legions.
I can only assume cawl called it mark X instead of mark IX was to save a single character anytime he needed to type it out or write it down during the development of it
Or they just lost Mk IX
This sounds EXACTLY like something Cawl would justify
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion yeah I thought that too. I was also thinking Cawl was like "Hmmm this isn't good enough, let's try again"
Mark IX is [REDACTED]
Id say the problem with the scaling in 40k is purely the human factions fault, such as the imperial guardsmen, and perhaps also the tau.They were just way to big compared to everything else like space marines, orks, eldar, drukhari and more, which were propperly scaled with each other. Now we have the issue of forces like the orks and adeptus custodes being way to small compared to the say, primaris and human factions. Even with the new ork kits they're still too small.
There's something inexplicably beautiful in the ugliness of the Mark V Heresy armor and the chain bayonet attached to the bolter carried by the marine wearing it 🥰
I really wish there was an official plastic range for this armor type, that could be used to make an entire company of dudes in various squad configurations and poses.
Why does mkII go so damned hard? Its just a beautiful and brutal design. Also ironic that the oldest wide-use mark also had the best maneuverability and cable management lol.
This. It's really beautiful armour mark that built the Imperium as first space marines fought in it in Great Crusade from the start and subsequent Heresy
omg he's expanding
Conspiracy Theory! My guess for the reason it goes from Mk.8 to Mk.10 is so GW had a way to back track on Primaris space marines if it didnt sell as good as older space marines or got too much hate. They could just pivot the spotlight to a still new space marine range but it wouldn't be Primaris, and then just introduce some lore reason as to why Primaris took a back seat on the battlefields.
Interesting theory. I saw another comment that mentions the Grey Knight's Aegis pattern armor being "classified" and could have been the 9th mark.
This was a really nice video, Auspex Tactics. One note: while it is true, that the MK5 was never really developed by GW, it's design elements can be found in many models. Especially the studded armor plates. For example on the Black Templars upgrade sprue.
I am SO mad, that they replaced my beloved Mk III with that gosh darn Deathguard specific offbrand!
My beloved grillfaces, gone forever! My 1000 rivets, taken from me!
I think maybe I'm odd bc I totally love the look of the molecular bonding studs.
Nah they look cool as fuck you right
Mk5 my beloved
The retro Rogue Trader era MK VI plate was called MK VIb in one publication, and the MK VI style seen in the Horus Heresy line was listed as MK VId in another publication. The style seen in the tactical marines box / classic MK VI however I have not seen a letter for.
I feel like MK.IX will be for when/if Gws ever makes voxgrill primaris.
GW: "So see, there is this Horues Heresy, and a whole class of armour is named after it. We also sell a huge variety of kits centered around this Heresy era."
Everybody: "So you have a cool plastic kit for that Heresy armour variant in constant production, probably for years, right?"
GW: ...
Everybody: "RIGHT!?"
GW: ... "Here, have some Primaris Lieutenant."
One additional lore tidbit:
The Mark 6 armor was actually tested by the 4th legion of Iron Warriors of all people.
Needless to say, they absolutely hated it, to the point that Perturabo just gave it all to the Raven Guard at the earliest oppertunity that the 4th and 19th legion met.
GW: “let’s push it so MKVI is actually really widely spread so we can sell more models”
@@darko-man8549i’m sorry but the idea Mk. VI was not widespread and was retconned into being so is kind of just wrong. the oldest heresy artwork in existence features Mk. V and Mk. VI, the covers of numerous early heresy novels from a range of legions including Death Guard feature Mk. VI, and the Iron Warriors, Salamanders etc may not have liked it during pre-heresy trials but during the heresy itself everyone was rather less choosy - it’s never stated anywhere that a legion didn’t use certain marks or exclusively used any marks. the black books are all presented from a biased, in universe pro-imperial perspective, and should be read as such and their accuracy should not be taken for granted
I am really interesting to see what they do with mk7. It is the Iconic armour for Marine, but doesn't really fit in either Modern 40k (if Firstborn make it into 11th ed Marine Codex I will be shocked) or Heresy (Unless they release an up scale mk7 as a "Veteran Tactical Marines" kit, or expanded to the Great Scouring).
Lore but miniature focused.
I love it! You should definitely capitalize on this!
I'd like to see one on Imperial Weapon patterns such as the Bolters associated with certain marine armour marks.
I weep for the death of MKVII.
Same... It's just not the same seeing the new armour, especially with the dodgy lore around the Cashmaris marines making it so much more painful.
The mark 8 was designed explicitly because in the years after the Heresy, chapters were noticing their Marines ended up being a head shorter in combat against Traitor marines.
Love this video! Very refreshing and fun video!
It makes perfect sense that the missing primarchs stole Big E's blueprints for Mk IX armor around 800.M30 and are now living as affluent drip kings in another galaxy.
Mark 2 will always be my one true beloved and I am still holding out for the day for a plastic mark 2 kit.
I really do Hope Mark VII and Mark VIII get redone. Just give Sternguard and vanguard of mixed Primaris and firstborn and give us Mark VII and Mark VIII exclusive units.
I do think I would have been far nicer to Primaris if they had been “MKX - Phobos” & “MKXI Gravis” then just ignored FB-Primaris BS.
30k has shown us Gw were always willing to keep FB and just upscale them.
They Really should do something with The MKX Omnis pattern cause it's sad to see it used on only one Unit
And a unit that is not available on its own
I would love if GW released a Mk7 upgrade kit at some point that had a lot of Mk7 helmets. It's such an iconic look, they can't let it disappear. Also loving the HH revamps of the armour marks, hoping that Mk4 will get a redo soon.
12:20 my head canon: GW quite literally forgot to count and decided X sounds cool
Very cool to see a lore video on this channel. Awesome!
Considering that the Mk 3 and 6 got updated and that mark 4 will likely be updated this year as well, i wouldn't be surprised if GW does a update for mark 7.
Hopefully we get plastic Mk2 and 5 as well.
As much as Mark 7 is needed, after Mark 4, the first thing coming is Mark 2.
For the longest time I have believed that the Horus heresy tabletop with expand to the Scowering where will start seeing mk 7 used in mass, and so far it looks like I’m right. I’m betting we will see the return of mk 7 through the Horus heresy/Scowering and then we can proxy them into Warhammer 40K.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegionthere is a lot of ground still to cover in the heresy before reaching the scouring, beta garmon is the focus atm and there’s the potential to revisit earlier campaigns that lack campaign books for heresy 2.0. mk. VII would be out of place any earlier than siege of terra and only ever appropriate for loyalists even then which given heresy’s almost historical wargaming approach could prove an issue
@@Prophetofthe8thLegionthere is still a lot of ground to cover in the heresy itself before moving into the scouring, currently the focus is beta garmon and all the earlier campaigns lack campaign books compatible with heresy 2.0. mk. VII armour would pose some problems because it was only distributed in limited numbers late in the heresy, and only to some loyalist chapters. this would cause problems playing earlier campaigns in a game that is alnost historical wargame adjacent (except abt fictional events) in like playerbase mentality when compared to 40k
Mark nine plot armour, worn by countless space marines throughout the galaxy.
The bonding studs never made sense to me. Theyre stated to be to hold other armor plates on, but theyre present on armour of the same thivkness as other panels without the bonding plates. i wouldve loved if they were only present on sections with thicker plating.
Thunder armour also had one more sculpt with a spear I believe. I had a few in my youth.
My personal headcanon has always been that the Mark IX pattern is the Aegis armor used by the Grey Knight, which explains why it's redacted lol.
I have always assumed Mk IX to be the Aegis Pattern of the Grey Knights. It makes sense in the lore: it has the reinforces neck of the Errant, it was developed after that (in Pandorax for example, Epimethius wears relic plate from Heresy era) and it's more advanced, with hexagramic sigils and such.
I think MK IX power armor is the kind that Alpha Primus wears. He _was_ the first Primaris marine, after all. It makes sense that he’d have the first draft of their armor.
This was a really great video. Please keep up the great work.
I do have a question though. I play Thousand Sons, which mk armor do they use?
Thank you for making another great video
You see I am an OG 40K guy. When the Mk VII came out, I thought oh they had to make them more “Vader” like. I loved the Beakies and I guess that’s why I play Raven Guard 😅
Now that primaris is no longer a key word my intercessors are my new Horus Heresy beakies.
Mark VII remains my favourite. The best looking and most iconic. Love the angry vox grill so much.
Even more so considering I really don't like the Primaris look. Also a big fan of the Mark IV.
I really like the Mark 3,5,4 and 8. I'm trying too reboot my Iron Warriors Codex I was making originally for a 9th edition ruleset but games workshops gone and changed the edition again so I gotta start over. Some of the changes have been interesting.
Totally made up theory: they're leaving MK IX empty for their Badab War setting, which will be the new historical game once they've milked the Horus Heresy setting dry. (Realistically it's probably a joke about how Windows and iPhones skipped model numbers)
A Badab game would be so sick & probably the only way we're ever getting truescale Mk7
My favourite has to be Mk6. First armour mark I used back in Rogue Trader. Just love the style of it.
You forgot to say MKV is favoured amongst renegade and far-reaching chapters who don’t often get resupplies
The other thing about the Mk.II and Mk.III is that the helmet on Crusade Armour was fixed, while the Iron Armour helmet was the first true power armour helmet that turned with its wearer's head
I think the MK X isn't intended to be X as the Roman numeral but X as in the letter. It is the basis of several armor Marks that all fall under the same umbrella, hence the X. But since the Imperium is run by idiots, it ended up being seen as X as in the Roman numeral.
I like this video. As a newer person to the hobby I get them confused a lot. I'd definitely like to know all the terminator armors
I’ve just headcanoned MK IX as a prototype MK X that was just really bad.
I just started looking up the different classes today and you put out a video on it, I swear you're a psyker
Love when you do lore lists.
(Not really) Hot take:
- Horus Heresy 2 should have heavily focused on the MK5, youknow, the HERESY ARMOUR rather than the MK6 which was mostly used after the heresy.
- In 40k, the Marines need to go back to more armour diversity like they used to have in the first born era. To do so simply phase out the Intercessor kits the same way they are phasing out the "Primaris" keyword to settle on a new "normal" where the base marine kit contain a medlay of every armours from 2 to 10.
(One Mk2, One Mk3, One Mk4, One Mk5, One Mk6, Two Mk7, One Mk8, Two Mk10).
If you can "upgrade" a first born into a primaris, you should be able to "upgrade" the old, revered and iconic armours of the chapter too.
The iconic look of a marine will always be the MK7.
The thing about the MkV is that it's not a widespread armour. As mentioned in the video, it is a retroactive definition for many makeshift armour marks made in a hurry. No legion would have used it as their primary plate, as it's not a "true" armour mark in itself.
Also, Primaris marines are the new normal. That's just how it is. They won't go back to containing pre-Primaris models. You are of course able to kitbash these customised variants yourself if you so desire.
On the subject of Mk1 Thunder armour:
- Of the pre-Primaris suits, this design was the last one to be made. GW needed something that looked crude enough to be seen as a prototype and went with a test figure. The figure was used as an exercise in sculpting chainmail onto marines iirc.
- There is another sculpt. It has a small ridge in lieu of a topknot and it carries a power axe instead of a bolter.
Honestly, I'd love to see GW explore the Unification Wars in more detail, maybe as a skirmish game or as kits meant for painting projects.
I maintain that MK IX should be for combinations of MK X and MK VIII
I love Mk V armour, it’s a shame resin is the way to go to get them right now.
Thunder warrior look is underrated
Now do one on all the other armors, and include the variants of primaris
Would centurion armor count?
@@averageeughenjoyer6429I'd say no. It's an exo-suit, you still had a marine in Mk VII inside using it.
@@TheAtomicSpoon could terminator armor be a exosuit too?
@@averageeughenjoyer6429 The marine is wearing terminator armor primarily, so I'd say no.
It should be studied how Mk7 went from *THE* Power Armor to the rarest in a few short years. Hell, we're only *just* starting to see the helmet again in recent kits (Sternguard, IC Companion)
Why GW ever tried so hard to distance 40k from what was essentially the face of the franchise I'll never understand.
4:24 im really bummed out by the new helmet design. I really dont like it... ): the older design was so iconic and badass.
I thought the death watch uses Mk VIII armour almost exclusively ( never mind the boring primaris kits)
Most DW non primaris are in Mk VIII.
It's insufferable that GW created a Horus Heresy scale in between Firstborn and Primaris. They could have simply pulled the whole range into true-scale (Primaris).
could what the black Templar sword brethren wear be mk 9? it looks different then the mk 10 and with a different helmet, high collar and legs with a flair on the knee joint
Mark 8 seems to be it
Nah. Just sauced up 6/7/8/10.
MKX Tacticool armor, inside every suit is a mall ninja waiting to purge the enemies of the Imperium.
I think it's funny that the reason for MK IX armor not existing, is the same reason for Windows 9 not existing. GW just wanted the primaris to be so uber-super-new-high-tech-duper-cool that they just skipped the number 9, because 10 is way better and the armor is obviously such a big advancement.
The fact that Mk 1 didn’t have powered legs really bugs me. Practically ALL of your power comes from your “butt”. You can’t create any significant impact without a solid base. You can’t skip leg day!
Just a small thought but what if Mk9 armor get treated much like Mk5, the "Pre-rift Imperial armor", known for its ability to be highly compatible with all prior STC/ Imperial standard power armor parts and custom parts that used those base parts?
I have a theory that Mk 9 was supposed to be powered by the warp. But that was quickly Excommunicated due to "Unforseen Circumstances,"
That Mk VII Ultramarine model doesn't look anywhere near squat enough. It took me a minute to realize that it was a mix of the new Mk VI armor with Mk VII bits where appropriate! Anybody know how they got the knees? It looks too neat to have just been a scribed, but I could be wrong
I thought the death watch uses Mk VIII armour almost exclusively ( never mind the boring primaris kits)
Most DW non primaris are in Mk VIII.
Me when I see crimson fists in thumbnail
Always read the X in MkX as X, not 10, since it's this whole modular system instead of what you would commonly consider an armour mark.
I wish different armor marks had different rules in Horus Heresy. For example mk.III having more toughness or mk.VI giving stealth bonus
I realy feel the Space Marines lost so much cool visual history with the Primaris.
Chapters having centuries old suits if different marks with their own history. Some made from multiple differnt marks.
Squads could look really interesting.
Primiaris feel to uniform and shiney. Rather undermining the whol feeling the Imperium really struggles to make its tech and every old piece is precious.
I wouldn't mind there being some new Thunder Warrior models just for fun. Though I think that'll be a 3d printer deal.
Anybody got any idea where the MKVII model is from? th-cam.com/video/V8oLG2NOhLM/w-d-xo.html
i really love your videos.
Point of order on no Marines wearing Thunder Armor. One of the mid hammer Marine codices (I think 6th?) depicts an Iron Hands marine wearing some.
Skipping to mkx power armour and there being no mk9 is probably a reference to Apple skipping from iPhone 8 to iPhone X
The lack of MK II is sad.
Also I have to say, the recent MKVI and III feel, lifeless in some respects. But ah well
I like most everything but Mark X. Mark IV is also low in my power ranking.
I think Games workshop took after Apple and skipped the 9th and went straight to X, cause reasons
Mk I had a second sculpt with a power spear. I dream of a 20 man box of Mk I.
Anyone else looking at that MKVII model and going hmmmm, what's all this then?
Really wish the MkX Omnis armour was used more. I really love the helmet especially.
Man you literally make a video about whatever I last googled that was 40k related I swear
Seeing a Death Guard in Mark V looks wrong lol good paint job though
More!!!!
Mark 5 is my favourite. Looks more menacing than the others.
I like Auspex talking about the lore
Personally I like the mark 4, the mark 6, and the Phobos armors
Now you tell me only Alpha L had them I just finished painting half of the 20 man mk6 squad as emporors children for killteam and and plan for blood angels other. I might break the heads off for others one day now
I’m sorry but mark VII is the best armor especially the helmet design the should have kept the the old helmet design for the new space marines to
iPhone didn’t have a 9 before “X”…..
Hmmmmm…..