Adults living with their parents: Italian Supreme Court sends wake-up call to 'big babies'
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ต.ค. 2020
- Due to a lack of stable employment, 64.3 percent of young Italian adults aged 18 to 34 still live with their parents. They are known as “Bamboccioni" or "big babies". Recently, Italy's Supreme Court put an end to a judicial saga that had been gripping the country. For the past five years, a 35-year-old part-time musician had been relentlessly suing his father for financial support. But the court ruled against him: in essence, the judges told him "to grow up".
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When I told my Asian parents that I wanted to move out, they said: So you don’t like us? Why don’t you wanna live with us? We raise you to let you leave us alone?
Hahah
Well they probably would feel very sad if you leave, that's true.
I would definitely suggest to leave your parents place as soon as you can. The only way to learn in life is to experiment life e.i struggling to appreciate what you have. My perspectives from experience. Good luck
@@999wazabi not really. It’s only if a person depends too much on the family and do nothing; our family (3 generations) all live in one home with each of our own income. Saves on rent and we’re there for each other in emergencies plus it helps older generations feel included (in terms of technology and current trends)
Or maybe it’s just an Asian thing
I’m about 28 and my parents just called me to stay at their house meanwhile I have bought an apartment. Hahaha so related lah...
I’m Indonesian btw
That's really how most (not all) asian parents are, moving out without a valid reason is disrespectful. Valid reason includes studying/working in another city/country, or getting married 😂😂😂
Living with parents is not equal to living off parents.
Exactly!
agree, and you can't know everyone's family dynamic. My mom was in poor health and I worked two jobs to support us, but lots of people would say "Why don't you move out?"
@@erinrising2799 My situation is similar so I understand you completely...
Agreed. The terminology should be changed to make it clearer. In asian families (like my own) it's perfectly acceptable (and even expected) to live with our family until we get married. But living off of our parents are never condoned.
Correct, but I’ve only seen it once in my 42 years. That is in the US though. My husband financially supported his mother since he was 17. She never payed a bill or provided anything for our household other than stress. If you are living with your parents and you aren’t paying market rent and utilities that is living off of them. You giving them a couple hundred isn’t cutting it.
"51% of young adults are unemployed" ???!!!
Bro that's a systemic issue. How misleading to use terms like "big babies" to describe a fundamental issue.
Its because they dont want to work, as in the beginning they refuse jobs that in their eyes too low for them....
@@brandonnguyen9555 I mean yeah, I get that if like a few people do that. Maybe a lot of people. Heck maybe 10%. Or be generous and say 20% of young workers would rather be unemployed than have a crappy job. But 51% ?! That's ridiculous mate. That's systematic.
@@ChayYT no its not, its typically south european mediteranean arrogant attitude, thats why financial crisis starts from there, people are arrogant and lazy, but speaking a sexond language...noooo, in the meantime central europe northern europe they are mostly multilingual or bilingual, italians should keep baking pizzas, thats what they stand for, dont think you can build some dam with a delta technology
@@brandonnguyen9555 I still have to hard disagree with you there. If what you say is true, and this is the attitude of European culture, all throughout Europe- then wages should reflect the culture, instead of trying to bully young people into taking jobs that don't benefit them. Economies exist to serve us, the people. Not the other way around. And when there is a ridiculous 51% unemployment for young people, it seems to me that the ones to blame are the ones with most direct control of the economy- politicians and heads of industry.
@@ChayYT who said i have said european culture, i have said south european or mediterean, please dont twist my words, when you want to work, you take almost any to survive, when u refuse it means ur arrogant and overestimating your skills. Watch the video again please, of course we have that kind of people too, but not in the past, it has been infected through socialism
I like the state guy, that works 6 hours a day, lecturing youngsters not wanting a low wage 12 hour job.
Come to Portugal. You'll get plenty of those moralist parasites
I wast thinking the same.
We never know. Maybe the state guy started with 12 hours work day in his youth. That's just how the world works, we won't get everything from the beginning.
@@AK-mf1bo Maybe. Then again, should we lower the standards of employment for the sake of other people making absurd amounts of money over our backs? I've worked a 12 hour, minimum wage job to pay my bills before but I would not wish that on anyone. The standard is 8 hours, for a work/life balance that is healthy, nobody, no matter what age, should not take any less or more than that.
@@AK-mf1bo Not the case here in Portugal. Most state workers are boomers that never done anything else in their entire life, rather than clocking from 9 to 5. Now millenials have to pay for the burden of debt they have created, while at the same time being blamed for not wanting a 12 hour, low-wage job. The definition of hipocrisy.
Italy is better off with them living with their parents, rather than being homeless and living on the streets.
You missed the whole point 😂😂
If they stay at home and refuse to work because jobs that are available are beneath them such as a restaurants, construction, and service industries which are at the heart of any economy and supported by young people than the country can fall into a recession leaving far more homeless. The problem isn't they are staying home it's that they don't want to work and sue their parent to make them give them spending money. A freaking 30 year old who doesn't want to work and has his 60 year old parents working to support them financially
Pffffffffffft those Italians with their mama!!!!! Not me!!!!
what are sacrifice going to get you, nothing, no woman is gonna be happy living a life of sacrifice with a family, no man is going to be comfortable working for their family depriving them of their freedom to have a little change for themselves, what is a family going to do with the little education the gov provides, there is no point in making a family.
@@anguianoalan100 It seems likely that many of the jobs, such as the restaurant jobs, will not pay enough for them to live on (that is, cover rent and general living expenses and travel to work). Notice they didn't interview any of the actual 'young' people saying that such work was 'beneath' them, unless I missed it: they were characterized as snobs by other people, who probably have no clue as to their financial position.
Most people are missing the point. This isn’t about them living w/ parents. It’s mostly about how the job opportunities in Italy are so bad and scarce that 30+ year olds are chronically unemployed and not bringing any income.
Parents tend to spoil the kids till they reach their 30’s and further ,this happens to many other cultures. Almost any teen would want to have privacy and move out but stay due to convenience. Parenting and exposure has a key role Italy is not a poor country, if you really wanted to a young single guy can make ends meet for himself there if you “work hard for it”
It’s also saying these “kids” are too good for some jobs and won’t accept them, gonna blame Instagram and Facebook for that one
Which isn’t these young people’s fault.
In the US, the number of young people still living with their parents is at levels not seen since WW2; the economy has crashed. I gave my Marine veteran son my family home; he will buy it from me at some point. He is working, paying me rent and is doing better with PTSD; I live in another home I bought years ago.
that why in my opinion people should invest in family bussinesses cuz employment is on dicline, people in past used to invest in generational bussinesses and this was better
Millennials “I need a job that pays me enough to live on my own”
News Media “Quit being a BABY!”
Or you don't like it on earth, then leave!...
Millennials dont want to do jobs anymore. They expect to get paid like doctors while holding liberal arts degrees. Fock even the doctors dont want to work anymore because the headache of treating so many millennials is ball crushing. Millennials hold the least amount of money compared to previous generation. Your average Millennial is in their 30s
@@SS-br2bf Holding the least amount of money while being the most educated and most productive generation in history? Get out of here boomer. Go back to your lazy union job
@@doug9194 look at the stats idiot. Boomers were all engineers and doctors millennials were the only idiots that wanted to do arts and other useless degrees. More millennials take useless degrees than they take stem ones. At least boomers had the pre frontal cortex capacity to pick a career that benefitted everyone instead of turning socialist and blaming everyone else for all of your faults. Look at the charts before yapping your arse lips again.
@@user-gz4ve8mw9l brooo tf are u on??
I used to feel so ashamed for living with my parents due to disability and personal financial reasons due to lack of jobs, reading the comments has really brightened my day thanks.😊
Getting a job is definitely even more challenging for those with a disability due to discrimination or criteria. I hope you're doing okay.
Buddy don't feel bad if you stay home cuz you got health issues, that's not your choice and it's so good if your family helps You. It's very different from what's described in the video. Good luck buddy i'm sure you'll find a nice job very soon. Sending prayers.
There’s is nothing wrong with it, as long as when you are able you contribute to house keeping...actually it is wise to live at home and keep your finances within the family to build wealth...take control of your life don’t allow the society dictate it for you...if you are miserable due to financial pressure the society don’t care,,so put your foot firmly down and do it your way......we only have one life to live, and we must do all we can to live happy easier life..best wishes,,
I am 18 years old and I will earn enough money to pay my rent and even my dad can buy a house for me.
But family is always first for me .
They worked for me and brought me to this age
And I will make them happy and will spend my time with them
I got the same feel.I recently graduated from university (2020) and i cant get a job. Im see this video the day of my birthday(28)
Government: Breaks economy, ruins the job market, causes housing inflation.
Also the government: " Move out of your moms basement you adult baby!"
EXACTLY!
Socialism destroys things and people.
DIS
@@earlysda not entirely true. Some things like National Healthcare are results that came from Socialists protesters. Unless u live in the USA where there's no political culture, ur comment is plain wrong
@@earlysda what a weird way to spell capitalism
“Wake up call to big babies?” Maybe they would worry more about making sure young people can get employment opportunities and a proper education in italy.
Ma purtroppo è più facile incolpare le persone giovane che aggiustare una economia spezzata e gli altri problemi grandi.
We need to steal, rob, lie, and scam! Thats what our leaders do, and they are doing very well! The example is given! And THEY call US leeches. Leeches!
@@heathercortes9567 HAHA! Why should we accept a low paying job if their generation got a normal paying job right of the bat and a contract? Why do we need to make these ''sacrifices'' whilst those boomers never had too in their entire life? It's not that we are entitled, we just want the same normal life they had/have.
The first guy was a musician unable to find work. I don’t know how hard it is to find actual productive work in Italy but I’m sure it’s 10 times harder to find a music gig than it is to find a bussing job at a restaurant
@@MarshallMathersthe7th why do you expect to have the life of a boomer when the greatest generation lived through worse. You feel you’re entitled to an easy life and that’s why you will never get it without riding on the backs of everyone else
Move out you big baby... translation: get work and rent everything!... translation: we want to steal your money through taxes... and you will be happy.
100% correct.
Exactly what I think they mean.
true renting is also theft because most of the money goes to taxes
@Grutas Brolen LOL
You will own nothing and you will be happy - World economic forum.
The european union and the italian government are to blame for this situation, they drove italian, spanish, portuguese economy into bankruptcy. They made real estate expensive, so now people can't even own houses, they have to pay rentals that take most of their wages. They sabotaged these countries when it comes to sovereignty and economy and now wants scapegoats to put the blame on.
This is the way the world is now,families living with families, in some cultures it's the way it's always been, nothing wrong with it
I think the issue there is a lack of choice tho. I mean not everyone was born into a happy family where they can feasibly live with their parents until they are in their thirties. You're right in that not everyone really should move out but it's a real problem when nobody actually can
@@emilycurran2304 especially when pay from minimal wage jobs aren’t even sustaining the high cost of living that increases every year. The higher paying jobs are all competitive and require experience most of time. Then the idea of robots taking over most jobs is going to drive up unemployment even more in this age.
Asia is best
Now we can't decide how to live?
Young people talk about freedom and means to go to live alone, and that freedom is misused, loneliness can affect their minds, some take their lives, loneliness is not a good adviser.
@@SoniaMdq Yeah... living alone doesn't equal independence...
So is guilt tripping and gas lighting only okay when politicians and corporations do it?
It seems to be ok for anyone with even the slightest position of power over you
I noticed that. They say "wake up young italians, go to work!", ignoring what really is going on
Everything is pk when thr elite do it
If a judge told me that I would tell him to give me his job and retire.
these elite chumps act like it's easy to just go and get a job. I applied for many many many jobs and finally after being ignored decided to start my own business. Because it was my only option.
@@rainbowbloom575 "just" work
Nowadays with ridiculously expensive house prices and cost of living, living with parents well into 30s or 40s is gonna be a world wide trend, Italy won’t be unique in this regard.
@Steve Jones Yes I think everyone should do this. Unless you are already very rich most people can't move out at 18, and it wasn't expected of people until the 1950s
Italy is premiere!!!
Been living on my own since 16
Hikikomori, NEET. Yet, those people are labeled and treated as scums.
Agreed. If you are sponging off your parents, shame on you. Contributing to the household expenses is mandatory
"Young people aren't willing to make sacrifices." Oh, you mean do menial work for substandard wages?
Yes and they put in their time get experience and level up, as it always has been. Only difference in the last 50 years is now people have much more freedom to move companies instead of staying with the same one from 16 to 70 like most people used to.
@No Name if you want a promotion, you gotta have the papers many times
@@onslaughtmma5110 did you do any research into what you just said or were you just talking out your ass?
Imagine complaining about snowflakes then basing your entire worldview off your "feewings" very ironic and potentially even stupid.
Then dont complain that there is no work, there is work, ur too arrogant to take it, and i believe ur not even worth better than those jobs
Get to work, boy. And stop complaining.
As an American, the idea of a twenty-something buying a house is completely alien. I don’t know anyone my age who isn’t either living with parents, or sharing a single-bedroom apartment. If rent and property were cheaper, this wouldn’t be a problem.
I think this crisis is world wide. During the 80s ours parents used to have big and confortable houses with a middle class standart. Now, to buy a house we used to live during the 80s, you need to be very rich.
I just looked it up. In 1970 when my parents bought their house there was 3.6 billion people in the world today we have to compete with 8 billion. Pass.
yes home prices are ridiculously high compared to what a young person would make.
Yearly wage vs cost of living, 40 years ago was a DREAM. Now their kids are living the nightmare.
@@karldias1415 Wow, finally someone acknowledges the insane competition for our limited resources. Long way have we come to see the matrix in front of us.
@@noeminoemi1350 if you have in your mind , you can't buy a home based on your income, than you will never have one. Don't get in the way of your own success.
I don’t think this is unique to just Italy... This is becoming more common all around the world, especially in places where price of living is growing faster than the average wages.
The cost of living is well above minimum wage in America.
I know people in their 30s that live with their parents in USA, England, Brazil, etc... its a world problem
@New World Disorder They probably haven’t found a girlfriend because they haven’t moved out
@@1Reddd as someone whose never had a problem with the ladies i can tell you that isn't the case as it is more of financial reasons
Housing prices inflate 250%
wage increase 10-30%
Im almost 30, living in Portugal, my salary is 600 euro, the cheapest house to rent now is 500, that why i live whit parents
house??... rent an appartment them. a small one should do.
@@MuddahFukkah when he said house I’m pretty sure he meant “apartment”. I live in Portugal, and that’s actually a cheap price for renting an apartment. These days a studio apartment rents for 750€ and the minimum wage in Portugal is 665€.
@@MuddahFukkah brow, i know what you talking about, but im portuguese i dont have to know English 100%.
Here we call it casa, when i said house i was translating.
The 600 a month thats fuking slave labouring
@@TCHUBOY He knew what you meant.
He didn't like the point you made but couldn't counter it with an intelligence or reasonable reply so he chose to be pedantic to make him feel like he beat you by being right on something largely unrelated.
Ignore him.
Actual internships for college students who need one to get job experience: must have 6 years of experience. Not even kidding. I had to look twice. Like hold on, let me just go back in time and make my life choices from high school.
I usually report those job listings. I guess we have a senior level intern now 🤷♀️ I have my own businesses but if I had to do it over again when I got out of college, I would have just lied on my resume and used one of my businesses as my employer but change my job title 😂 use your own phone number if they contact you. They don't know!
Here in the Philippines, I'm 47 years old and no longer live with my parents; I live one story above them.
lol
Hahahaha bless you and your parents ma man
@@manhoosnick Thank you! And may they bless me more now that I'm unemployed again!
@@philippinepalestra we are all same man, i am unemployed again, corona times, dont worry, it will only get better.
@@manhoosnick Yeah, it's the quarantine, ultimately. Yup, things will get better for us, thanks! (I was already performing poorly at work, then COVID-19 happened, and that was the last straw for the company, haha!)
most asian people living with their old parents, whats wrong. They care while you a baby, and you take care of them while they old.
Yeah, but if children are adults and have the means to move out, they should move out. Parents have a right to live on their own. If the parent are ok with it, then that's fine. If adult children just don't want to work, that's a different story.
May the Almighty God bless you nothing is wrong with living with your parents 💖💖💖 in Europe they see problem with that so sad
That's nice but some people want a place to call their own.
@@aminuaidara8601 agree 100%
@@aminuaidara8601 Allahuma Ameen
I live in Asia where the culture is to live with our parents until we get married. I have colleagues who are in their 30s and 40s and still live with their parents cause they're single. Nothing wrong with it cause they don't live OFF their parents; they contribute financially and help take care of the household/ their aging parents. Its just the way things are in some parts of the world.
This is big too. I was paying my parents $500 a month as partial rent to help them out since I was making a good hourly wage. If I had moved out my entire income would have been going to rent and food/car stuff (gotta love Denver). At that point I realized your wage/salary really does not matter, it's all relative to your area. Young people who have family near a major city have a massive financial advantage.
Same
I'm 23, desperate to leave home but I cannot find stable employment. This is not my fault.
Not desperate enough
I'm 30 with no family finding a job is bit hard especially this pandemic
i feel you man.
who are you to talk?@@abigailmendoza2502
What's wrong with living with your parents? It's not like, it's a heinous crime.
To me, it can seem like you're taking advantage of things. You're staying comfortable instead of making it happen
@@Lady.Luck. living with your parents is different from living off of your parents. I guess, you have to be Asian first to understand this better. Living in your parents house is not likenyou're actually living rent free. You have to chip in with the house expenses too, like bills and food, etc.
Marie ᶘ oᴥoᶅ I think the video was talking about people over 30 who were planning on being dependent on their parents for a long time, not 19 year olds planning to become independent in the future lol.
@@GomenNasai07 Idk I live 'off' my parents but she wants me to so I can actually save a lot of money, get houses and live well off. I plan to have that option for my kid too if I have one. Feel free to move out but my house is always free including utility so you can save money whilst you're being responsible. Obviously if I was just doing nothing with my life it would be different. That's the rule. Rn I'm finishing my master's and have a graduate job lined up. Can save 15k of my salary a year, maybe even 20k.
Yeah like its is your family you have any right in the world to live at home!
Italy needs them to "step up to their responsibilities," and yet, whose fault is it for a low standard of living and lack of work? I cannot believe the government is blaming young people for THEIR failures. This wont end well for anyone,
My dream as a little kid was to find a job and move out at 18 (max 23 if i first wanted to take a degree). Now i'm 25, no job found that could let me keep studying and working, just some little jobs on call paid almost nothing and with no contracts. I still live with my family, i cook , i do chores, yet here i am.
This video was biased to make us all look like mammoni the truth is that we would LOVE to have a job and move out young
Steven Lee Im curious to thé the numbers for unemployment with people in their mid to late 20s. I mean, I’m 26 but I’ve had a job ever since i was 19. I do still live at home though :p same with the majority of my friends. They all have jobs, but they either live at home or with roommates
@@JeremiahTatola it's a little tricky. In general women suffer this problem more than men, the south suffers it more than the North, the younger generations more than the older. So keeping in mind these categories i'll show you the 2019 istat statistics that see a situation that was the best since 2012:
the 50% told in the video regarded young 15-24yo southern italians that choice to study and don't work (like i've already told you part time jobs are not really a thing here and other kind of jobs on call are not on contract so no rights, no decent pay but all day long required for the job hours. Also, if you're not at least 16 but with several updated rules or in general 18yo you can't legally work in Italy).
Nationally speaking that 50% becomes a 25,7% for 15-24yo.
About 25-34yo the situation is slightly better and makes possible for the national 15-34yo to claim a National 17,8% rate of unemployment.
35-49yo sees a 8.7% and 50-64yo a 5.5%.
Geographically speaking, unemployment is 5.7% in the North 7.3% in the central part of Italy and 16.2% in the south.
Grey goose. Bartender
the problem is with the minimum wage laws
I moved out of my parents’ home when I was 18. Then the pandemic hit and I currently live with my mother. I’m currently unemployed with many health issues. I’m 51 yo. Life can happen at the worst times in your life.
Ya, shit happens sometimes. Bless you and good luck!
wait what? the pandemic hit only recently (a year ago). what did you do during those 30 years?
@@MuddahFukkah I left home at 18 but are now living with my mother at 51. I was living on my own all those years is my point.
Most people are one check away from being homeless. I decided to go back to college at 25, with the current state of things I realized I need stability more then anything.
well said. I stayed with my parent, bought a small house and now paid off, house minimal maintenance @@pedrovidal1293
"That's how it is in Italy. If my son is in need, I will help him, and my wife too."
USA : 0_0
@Filippo Are they? I don't think someone sane will kick out they're own son/daughter
@@abidubsprodection485 don't believe him, he is just a stupid troll
@Filippo si capisco benissimo le cazzate che hai scritto. Tu sei uj troll e non sai nemmeno di esserlo perciò fai ancora più pena.
P.s. io vivo al Nord e se mi dici in quale zona del Nord c'è la disoccupazione al 3% e niente mafia mi fai un piacere visto che anche qui la gente non ha lavoro e il comune vicino al quale vivo è stato sciolto per infiltrazione mafiosa.
@@marlon1089 io al nord lavoro, ho 30 anni, guadagno discretamente e di opportunità ne ho svariate, anche post covid :)
Lavoro in campo informatico, siamo quasi tutti in smart working svariati giorni alla settimana e il lavoro ti assicuro che non cala, anzi ce n'è fin troppo. E no, non ho nessuna raccomandazione dietro al mio contratto, ho iniziato lavorando in un contesto piccolo e ho cambiato 3 aziende nel corso degli ultimi 5 anni, quindi l'unica raccomandazione è stata l'enorme culo che mi sono fatto per arrivare dove sono.
Una situazione così, purtroppo, al sud è molto difficile da trovare, poche aziende e investimenti, e ho una parte della famiglia al sud quindi so di cosa parlo :)
Lui non ha detto che al nord non c'è mafia e non c'è disoccupazione, se vuoi vederla in questo modo nessuna parte del mondo è esentata dal marcio, ma mettere sullo stesso piano nord e sud Italia quando è evidente che le differenze siano drastiche, solo per una questione di politically correct, significa semplicemente avere il prosciutto sugli occhi e fare becera disinformazione.
I'm Brazilian. I share a home with my mother, but I pay the mortgage, groceries and all of my personal costs. I don't see a problem with families staying together, but they have to financially contribute!
Yes and if they can't contribute financially, then contribute in labor. The son in the video should be doing the housework. not expecting his mom to cook his meals and do his laundry. (especially since the mom still worked full time)
@@lestranged you're assuming he doesn't do those things.
@@kyleroberts1276 No, the mother in the video said so.
Same in Asia.
My brother is married to a Brazilian and her parents live with them. They take care of my nephew while my brother and his wife are at work. My dad is Brazilian and he was sad when I moved out and told me over and over that the house was still my house and I moved back in with them free my ex husband served me divorce papers. After I remarried and moved back out, he still made sure that I knew I was always welcome there.
I live in Latam. My parents house cost 120K 20 years ago. Now the house is valued at 350K. My salary is double what my parents were making together back then and still I will not be able to apply for a house in an area near the city as my parents did. I will need to be married with someome making the same amount as me, which means together we will have a household income 4x to 5x times to get a similar house. I will only be able to apply for a house where I need to commute 5 hrs in a day (2.5 hrs each way) to get to work.
Just to get an idea, min wage has only increased USD 100/month in this period while living cost had increased like 10x times. It disgust me that some people act stupid and just say "work harder" as if the majority is not doing it. My parents only needed to pay 180 quotas to get Social Security pension when they retired. Now we need to pay 300 quotas at a higer percentage and also our retirement age was rised.
Many new policies are made by old people in government not wanting to affect their own interests by punishing younger generations to pay more to maintain a system that is collapsing.
That's the same everywhere. House prices were cheaper but interest was a lot higher. So payments could have been difficult for many back then too.
However now you need both partners working to really be able to afford a mortgage
@@UnseenSpirit Not really. Take social security in my country as an example. Their generation only needed to pay 180 quotas and retired at a younger age. This means the money they didn't pay in social security could be allocated to higher interest rates for mortages. I need to pay 300 quotas, at a higher rate and for more years, which mean I need to sacrifice more money that I could be using for my own mortage. Now they're thinking, the old politicians, in increasing it another 5 years to us the young generation because they need to pay to older generations (like a ponzi scheme). Same? I doubt it. Many things cost like 10x times higher, even taking inflation into account, and what people earn hardly increased at the same pace. Besides that, the set of skills that we need to have to get a decent job/pay is not remotely compared to what was needed back then. My parents never needed to pay more expenses for courses in SQL, a third language, a master, etc. and were able to have a job with stable income.
Sounds like Panama.
Well said!
@@krlost4405 that's the same in the UK. Houses were cheaper but higher interest rates which meant payments were still most of your salary. Pension input was less and you retired earlier than today.
Unfortunately that's life. However 2 people can afford a mortgage for a first home if both have ok jobs here. Not so much in London though.
Government: nooooo you have to split the family apart so we can siphon money out of you much more efficiently.
Exactly!
Dont be ashamed italians here in india hundreds of millions of us live with our parents too
"They are refusing to work as waiters for almost zero payment"
Sacrifices are only made when they are worth it, and making sacrifices to work a dead-end job for minimum wage should not be hailed as the solution
Edit: some people dont get why you simply cant get into a shitty job and move upwards from there, here is the explanation:
Outsourcing and corporate bailouts destroy social mobility, outsourcing eliminates the base jobs and the jobs built upon them so the lower class have nowhere to start other that dead-end jobs, which are dead-ends
Corporate bailouts ensures companies dont have to become competitive and the upper ranks stagnate, as they become more focused on increasing "earnings" by eating into the employees benefits, meaning that even middle-class jobs have no way upwards
If you see a notice that says "Waiters with bachelor's degree required" (which i have personally seen) you know the economy its fucked up, and its the government's job to prevent that doesnt happens
We see it worldwide, the governments fuck up big time and blame the people for not solving their self-absorbed choices
You are not wrong in my generation we were shamed into working up to three jobs or more with no benefits and low wages along with sexual harassment and being treated poorly if we didn't we were called lazy it led many of us into cohabitating or getting married to share the load and they wonder why the divorce rate is so high
If young adults are allowed to freeload off their parents without an end date in sight then there's no reason to, sacrifice. News Flash: many jobs are dead end, so what? Work it while making a plan to never have to be in a dead end jib again.
Why not, better than staying at home all day and not earning anything🤷♀️🤷♀️
A job should pay for your expenses, plus savings. Being a waitress does neither. Being a pauper for a boss; what a sacrifice.
@@scifigirl0072 lol. Where are the not dead end jobs at though you dingus? That's the point, there are none
"Making sacrifices" doesn't guarantee a living wage. Even if you'll do any job you can find, it doesn't mean you'll be offered enough money. That's just economics.
No that's just late stage capitalism
Then logically why would anyone want to do those jobs unless the economy forces the impoverished to do those jobs for less than a living wage. It's really underhanded to exploit ones bad situation for cheap labor.
No job is beneath you when you have nothing
@@kitsilanocat Funny how it's all the fiat currency manipulation and socialist policies that are causing it, then.
@@Mephilic especially in italy old people will be much more in the population, if young people won't do care giving jobs then businesses will hire foreign workers. So don't complain when foreigners takes jobs. I'm here in America is the same way
Me, an Italian guy that speaks 3 languages, has a quite big culture: "I’d work in a mall to afford my own things"
Media: "stop being a BaByYY"
If 51% is unemployed it's not the person's fault. You could make that argument if the unemployment is around 5% but with these figures there's simply not enough jobs.
Actually the USA is probably around 25-30% but the numbers are so fake as is to reflect Mainstream media narratives.
This people can get work easily here UAE
There are jobs, maybe not careers but these spoiled man-babies turn their noses up!!! Their the little prince rather be home all cozy with mommy & daddy kiss his hand!!!
@@melissahouse3488 whoa why so bitter? What's wrong with having preferences? Why would you settle for a meaningless job which doesn't let you grow or use your potential in any way?
In Bulgaria, retired people generally have low income, so many have to count on their children for financial support. I make enough money to be able to afford rent but not enough money to also be able to support my parents financially, so I chose to live with them and give them the money that would have otherwise gone for renting an apartment. This also helped my brother who recently finished his studies. Now that he got a good job, he decided to support my parents, which enables me to save some money and quit my current job so I can study and get a better job. That's what family is for - to support each other.
Amen brother!
That's actually a pretty neat story.
bulgaria sux
but that should be the job of your goverment and not just tac you people!
Not in america.
Man: We have jobs. We have plenty of jobs!
The Jobs: must have 15+ years of work experience and 8 years college
And then that guy blames us for complaining and not being ready to make sacrifices
...for washing dishes
Man ego: u think this is a joke
Must be 18 with 20 years experience.
Must have a degree and years of experience, yet you will earn minimum wage and get no benefits if you're "lucky" to even get the job.
There's nothing wrong with multi-generational housing.
trust me you don't wanna stay at your parent's house after you're 30
@@projetoventura there are plenty of cultures in which it is done and people deal with it just fine. The whole idea of a nuclear family, one nuclear family per household is a relatively recent development, one made possible by economic conditions that no longer exist.
A lot of cultures kept the idea that you don't move out until you get married. Even then, a lot of people bring their elderly parents into their home rather than see them go into an extended care facility.
@@valerierodger7700 Yeah...
@@valerierodger7700 i understand that, but parent's house are always a comfort zone pretty much, and (i believe) that can do some damage on your personal development timeline (depending on your life style and others things too)
@@projetoventura The hell with development, let's see you take mortgage for 15-20 years with deadly interest + low wage start+ crisis + corona idiocy + a lot of structural governmental problems. Pathetic tries to bully someone with "proper development".
the way the west perceives living with your family as something to be embarrassed about, is very telling 🤷🏻♀️
@No Name Tell me, why would there be propaganda in schools that undermine the function that schools are designed to perfom
It's not Just about living with your parents, it's the way You do It in Italy.
It would be nice for a Little while but then You Need to crush the world, sacrifice and do your own experiences. It's about personal growth. Trust me i'm italian and live abroad but i know my country reality and i saw how these Mama guys live, i had lots of examples within my family and Friends. Most of them become lazy and don't cooperate. Besides, italian Moms tend to spoil em. On the other hand there are Kids with disabilities Who live with their parents, but usually they are more proud because they know what a challenge is, they deal with obstacles everyday, apprecciate their parents effort and try to do their best to help.
@No Name lmao are you a baby? Do you have any proof past your "feewings" baby?
Imagine thinking you were right about something because you felt right and not because you put academic thought and research into it. Some snowflake level BS right there 😂
@@stopit1210 oh for sure! In my culture it’s very similar! I do agree that some parents can coddle their child(ren) too much which can hinder them from flourishing!
However, as I’ve grown up in the U.K., I can see that many see living with your parents till adult age as something to be embarrassed about. Although, there are great advantages. The main one being that you have a strong understanding of co-dependency.
And yes, everyone’s reasons for living with their parents can be very different like you said! We should consider that some adults remain with their parents to care for THEM financially and physically. Rather than it being that the child leeching off the parents.
@@fc2682 ok got your point and agreed. if You look at It from the other side, living with your parents can help them carry on over old Age and all its physical consequences. True. But in this case usually in my culture good Kids Who have been raised with love and good principles leave their parents' house at some point but still keep visiting and taking care of them. They build their own Life, job, family and home and if in the future the parents are in Need they would take em and move em to their Place and look After em. That's how It works. You repay the favor.
But in the meantime You have experienced Life, tapped the world, learned how sacrificing Is Building home and carry It.........
I heard from a lot of italians that there are no jobs in most parts of italy and a lot of them leave the country. Maybe the government should look in the mirror before pointing at the young people
Maybe if they gave up Socialism their economy would create new jobs?
Italian here. Totally true... If u don't live in Milan u cannot work
@@lucadesanctis563 Perhaps there is more of a capitalistic spirit in Milan? Jobs get created in a Capitalistic environment.
@@earlysda maybe before 2020 was like that. Now in Milan you only get Corona 😂
@@earlysda lmao what's socialist about italy??? it's capitalism that has brought about this issue, because why would corporations and employers employ more people and pay them livable wages when this is more profitable? stop defending a system that goes against your best interests, because this will only get worse
There's a difference between living "with" your parents and living "off" your parents
Well said 😆
Facts!
In theory but usually not in practice. Most young people who live "with" their parents are also living "off" their parents at least to some extent. Or there would be no reason to live with them for most.
@@catspajamas2961 I usually give them a percentage of my paycheck to help with the house and any expenses and whenever I can I buy dinner for the whole family, it's not always how you say
There’s also the case of your parents living off of you.
My parents live with my maternal grandparents, and there is absolutely no way that my grandparents would survive without my parents’ support. They’re both in their old age and they’re not the most up-to-date on how things work so they just need help; they still bring home some income, but not enough to live independently.
I’m in my thirties, since the age of 16 I’ve been working full time jobs, in my twenties even 70-80 hours a week for a couple of years. I live with my partner not my parents. I’ve struggled with depression, I’ve got no self confidence, feel worthless every day. I literally have nothing, can’t afford a house or even mortgage, no car. Only back pain, and emotional damage, that’s what I’ve got for my hard work. So my advice to younger people, respect yourself! Do not feel that you have to work hard to get somewhere because it’s simply not true,don’t work long hours it’s a waste of time. Your apparent success depends on your luck and hundreds of other things except your efforts. Capitalism kills...
Thank you for sharing that bro.
Here in the Caribbean living with your parents well into adulthood is very normal. People shouldn't be made to feel ashamed about this.
This is the condition everywhere in the world. This is not the fault of the youth it has been created by the adults of our generation. We work but are still poor. Getting a job and moving out is actually downgrading.
Yeah :/
IKR!!???
@@proteus3034 Are you a millionaire? Do have an iota of actionable advice?
Getting out will make me spend £1000+ a month for a rent.Plus i don't have time to deal with food laundry etc...I need personal time in life.That is why i work and give the money to my parents and they help me with the food and the laundry.£1000+ in month is used between family members at least...
Get a skill and a real job. Continuing to do whatever you started doing at 14 doesn't count. Sick of hearing 25 year olds crying about their minimum wage jobs.
My family (Spanish) has a saying: no matter what happens, there will always be a bowl of lentils waiting for you at home.
Love it!
This is so cute!
Tienen varías frases relacionadas a las lentejas los vascos jaja
Me encanta ese dicho! Que bueno que tiene una familia muy amable.
Islam is the truth
GOD bless those parents,I’m a father and hell yeah I’m not going to abandon my son . That would make me a father with out a soul if I ever thought of doing that .Again GOD bless you folks
Raising a baby!!!
Your an amazing father!
@@melissahouse3488 Shut up!
@@melissahouse3488 Cry even harder
😂
Are you OK?
If he has the choice, he is the one who will leave an old geezer such as you.
Government:makes no jobs
Citezen: has no job
Government: grow up and get job you big baby
Government isn't responsible for creating more jobs in a normal developed country
They have the jobs but the citizens want better schedules, and don't like the "duties" of the job. Basic millennial problems
@@pedrovidal1293 It's not just millenial problem, it's everyone's problem.
nice south italian boomer logic by the recruiter: complaining that young people are lazy and don't want to make sacrifices while demanding 12 hours shifts 6 days a week at 700€ per month with no tips, no extras, no insurance and unpaid overtime.
Spot on!
Socialist love it
Wow, that is insane. I see why they don't want to work.
700 ?
Not even that.
EXACTLY. BULLCRAP. They're just mad people won't go broke to meet some deluded societal definition of what being an "adult" is. Mad they can't get money off of people who won't go broke trying to meet ripoff rent prices every month.
You can really see how antiquated the values are here when they single out young men a lot more than women even though the unemployment rate for women is higher than man in every region in Italy
And in doing so it hurts both men that are held to a higher standard in terms of "supporting the family" and women that many times don't get the job because people assume they are just going to be an stay at home mom or just get pregnant in general and people don't wanna deal with it.
In Britain, many people who decide to live in cities for work are forced to live under awful landlords or are forced to house share with strangers. If you ask me, I'd take working full time and living my with family over the alternative any day of the week
In America, rent goes up every year, but wages do not.
Rent has recently begun to stabilize.
Rent AND taxes.
@@Brillemeister How so?
@Brillemeister
Places that aren't CA or NY are going up by 20% to even 50%! Places in Montana are selling for 700k+. If you say stabilizing you mean everywhere will be equally expensive then you're right.
Plus they are destroying our crops with weather manipulation. They do this in most if not all countries. We're headed for a 1 world system where most of us die and the few left are slaves. They got us fighting each other instead of us realizing our govts are all in on our ruin. They got us fighting between age groups, races, countries, religions, and sexes, and parties. Let's all come together and see this that they are pitting us one against the other.
I'm an Asian but I don't live with my parents but I'm only 5 minutes drive away from my parents. I even turned down many job opportunities just to be in the same town with my parents. But I do have a steady job. I'm not rich but I'm not poor too. There's nothing wrong with staying with your parents but at the same time, don't be a burden to them. If you are unemployed, do some house work and learn how to cook etc. A gentle reminder to the parents, please train your boys to do house work too. But to sue your parents for maintenance and such is very wrong.
I wish your comment had more likes! This is the perfect example of how to value your family, and contribute to the house in whatever way you can. Which is different than a lot of western folks mentality of feeling entitled to live off their parents and don't even contribute in household chores.
Same. I’m also Asian and i live 5 min away from my parents. I even studied in the same town. I don’t know why Americans want to be as far away from their parents.
@@tmla the good jobs are not close. The good jobs are very few and far between. Lots of folks have to move across the whole country to get a job thats worth doing. Unless you just want to work for the fast food industry. Then they're everywhere. I wanted to be near my folks, but I need to be near my job. Im still only 40 minute drive from my folks.
He is living with his OWN REAL parents. This is the best thing in life. Only thing is need to realize this priceless thing.
What? I can go live alone? Daaamn why didn't I think that before, thank you government, now I just need a job and an affordable house
Wait what do you mean I can't have any?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You know, I was expecting this comment section to be toxic, judgemental and brutal. Yet, I am delightfully surprised that the majority here are overwhelmingly supportive, light-hearted and open. We are all from different countries and therefore, have different customs. Italy, Bulgaria, China, United States and for myself, Canada, etc, see this topic differently. Yet, we are not alone. None of us are. This comment section proves it. And that’s real stuff right there. Doesn’t get more empowering than that. Thank you all, for being such wonderful people! 😄
@Eduardo Tenorio Does it come with wings and winter hoofs?
@@Alpharexx and a temper to kick assholes when they speak? We want one 😁👌
Clayton, I was expecting this too.
honestly anyone who judge you for living with your parents and siblings... your own family! they either live at home and don't like it or pepole that live on their own but want to move back in with their parents but can't because they kicked him out or because of violence in the house that made it unsafe to live there... and just wanna judge people that love living at home and being with their family!
Thank you! I also thought the same and so relieved to see so much empathy.
Seems like they are shaming that guy for wanting to maintain his family's farm.
Certo.
Yeah, he is definitely not part of the problem. When a child stays home to maintain and assume the family business, it should be encouraged.
They working for the real estate firms. Adults living with parents means they lose money on rentals.
I wouldn't leave my parents house if I had a farm like that, I grew up on a farm too, it's a tough life, if this is what he loves doing then good for him, I take my heat off, any parent would be happy for such a son.
Who else would take the farm if not the son.
@@gozer825 and the state loses money on taxes too.
Guys stick to your parents, I haven't seen my mom for over 15 years, I'm here in Asia and she's in Africa, I stopped living with her when I was 4, lived with my paternal grand mom and when I was 16 I started living alone. The last time I saw my mom was in 2006. I just turned 32 and I still didn't get married, isolation and all... so if you are with your parents you are lucky.
Now why would I do that, my mother sent me to a concentration camp instead of raising me at all. She's done far worse, and is a full blown narcissist. My father on the other hand was an absentee father, who only wants to decades later do something. It's too late for them, they'll reap what they've sown. I haven't seen my brother in well over a decade.
@X 7 Agree! Contrary to popular beliefs, most millennials grew up in abusive, broken households surrounded by deadbeats and failures including their own parents! So much so that they end up leaving home before they were of legal age. Of course, half of those people are now leading successful lives while the other half are not here anymore due to "you know what". So yes not everyone is going to be willing to go home (if there's even a home left) due to the deep vitriol they have for their parents.
@@davidmitchell3997 Yeah, that is a harsh reality. Even if we ignored everything with mine being narcissists, and all the horrible acts they've committed. They disinherited me, and changed the locks on the house. As I was the black sheep, or scapegoat child. They gave my brother a million dollars. Texted me to mock me for having nothing, while living out of my car. I had gone no contact for around a year now. Saw a text just the other week about the million, showing a bank statement transfer for 1 million to my brother.
The things they've done to me honestly, I never had a mother or father except in name alone. They also set my brother up for life well long before giving him that. They sent him to an ivy league college. Gave him $5k a month spending money. Bought him 10k shares of 3 different stocks. Bought him a $50k car twice not once. Gave him everything I ever owned for the first 3 decades of my life. After stealing it all from me. Those are just to name a select few. As they did things like this nearly every other day for him growing up.
At this point I'd not even bother going over what my narcissist mother subjected me to. It's the stuff of horrors your worst nightmares couldn't fathom. Nobody would wish these kinds of things on anyone no matter what. On the level of crimes against humanity.
@@user-gz4ve8mw9l i am sorry that you are hurting, loveless parenting is 100 times worse than loveless Marraige. I hope that you get over this pain somehow.
Adults who live with their parents provide emotional support and are FAMILY.
The supreme court should mind its own corrupt business.
YES!
Employers: complain about lack of employees
the employ they offer: illegal job with a wage of 700 euros per month and harassment from your boss
Ikr, why would people want a thankless minimum wage job that still wouldnt give you financial independence.
sorry for ruin the 99th likes
This is the important thing that's frustratingly left out of these conversations! So what if there are available jobs. Can you support yourself? If not, then it's rarely worth it. I was 25 before I was finally able to move out of my mom's house, and that was to move in with my sister!! I'll be 30 soon and have never lived alone because I couldn't afford to. It looks like the situation is particularly dire in Italy, and it's a shame there's a stigma attached to living with your parents when there isn't always another option.
700 EUR per month?
*cries in EUR 380 per month*
@Luís Andrade yes, you can have an ilegal work situation even in a restaurant. it happens a lot in europe apparently.
Instead of blaming the people who are already letting go of a lot of individual freedom to stay with their parents, just do the bare minimum of enforcing job security, fair wages, and control real estate prices
one of my friends, she is moving in with her husbands' parents. Yikes. i would never let my daughter move in with someone else's parents. I work hard as a dad to raise an independant daughter that can makes choices that suits her ( including a husband) , we don't do all that adults living with other adults. it doesn't make sense.
@@PHlophe that is exactly what generally happens in South Asia.
@@PHlophe it all comes down to money. there IS no independance without sufficient income. which isnt possible if the economy does not allow for it. its not something you get to choose. you can only take advantage of already existing opportunity.
@@dynamo3059 Not anyone want to live alone you know.
@@shaafalikhan3704 It was also the case in the West. Traditionally the woman moves in with the husband's family.
I'm 36 and live with my parents, and I'm not ashamed of it. I'm single with no kids, and my parents are retired. They want me there, because I do everything for them.
I'm 29 now and still proud living with my parents , what a different world !
Bruh I’m staying with my mom and I’m a grown woman saving up for a house
Kelly mom says " Kelley, bring me the remote control " when you are smashing.
If I had a normal family, I probably wouldn't mind staying too considering the current situation of the world.
Good for you!!!!! Priorities and the big picture...my sons wanted to move out? I asked them why? You think your hot rods are safe parked at an apartment complex? I advised them to save your money and move when you have a down payment on a house or if you get married. Until then do the dishes n vacuum I gotta get to the grocery store!🤣😅🤣😅
Yeah, this video got hijacked by people who complain about any adults living with their parents. It was about a court case and a change in Italian legal and social dynamics and got spun into a “this is wrong, you should act like this” thing
@Sagnik Sengupta especially now with covid! I'm glad my boys are home I dont care if there in their 20's. I want them here. Just save their money is all I ask n keep the home clean....oh n donate to my reef aquarium corals every so often. Lol
"Because Itally expects them to step up to their responsibilities"
How about the POLITICIANS AND THE GOVERNMENT starts to "step up" to THEIR responsibilities for a change
HOW ABOUT THAT???
Exactly.... and stop shame people that live at home.... like... you can't know what thier going through so way judge others like that its thier home too and its thier family...
Italy used to be wealthy due to manufacturing cheap products. Those industries ended in China. All of the Western world is getting poorer and China is getting richer. It will soon be the number 1 economy
@@Chris-pq3wp because you let it. Vote for the extremist parties. Left or right, vote the moderates out. Globalism must stop before it kills us.
Corrupt politicians is the biggest reason
@@Chris-pq3wp
Need to stop dictator china
I'm 34 and I still live with parents
In our society, if adults don't live with their parents they get 'threat calls' from justice system for being irresponsible.
What country are you from?
@@evan8654 Without being specific, every Asian country has more or less this kind of social structure.
'Threat calls from justice system' was an exaggeration, to match the title. Maybe first journalists publish news about such case, especially if it is a son, then the police gets involved. There are laws that adult children must look after their parents. Staying with parents is not stated clearly, but every parent wants their children to stay with them, and society, the court support them too. In rare cases files are charged, most of the cases the adult son is counselled to live with his parents. The mayor takes responsibility if the situation is severe and talk of the town. Apart from being humane this helps in his next election.
@@kawrno5396 dang bro, stories like that make me happy that I Iive in the USA, despite our other problems.
@@evan8654 I see both norms as two extremes of the situation, I myself do not know if there is a middle ground here.
When children are made to live with their parents for the whole life, it reduces housing problem, electricity problem, water problem, and many other things which is optimally used when shared. On the downside parents interfere with adult children's life to a high degree. Rarely anyone can fulfil his own dream, everybody is assigned with their parents' dreams. As a result everyone leads a 'safe' life with little room for innovation for overall society.
On the other hand, in western societies people can try their dreams, some fall hard, some rise high; they can lead their life the way they see fit, there is no guarantee of safety but satisfaction in that.
But there is too much isolation it seems, from the stories. I heard that many parents in USA do want that their children live with them. European-American people go to psychologists more than Asian people, not because of awareness of mental health, but in Asian countries a person is always there to listen to you most of the time. The stories of rise of cuddling as profession in USA is very depressing. When people do not live with their parents or relatives, there is a loneliness somewhere, and people try to fill the hole by consumerism, making few people unnecessarily and horrifyingly rich, and consumerism does not solve the longing to be with another human.
To repeat, perhaps the mix of two norms is useful. Say everyone is made/allowed to live on their own from 25-35/40, and then bound to live with their parents for the rest of their lives. Maybe by this people will have the most benefit from both the two norms.
For all its negative consequences, the fact kids stay with their parents is one of the reasons we don't see hordes of homeless young people like we see in the US. And in the US you have many many people homeless that have a full time job. That is how grim the situation is. I would not judge so quickly the young people in Italy. You can be very poor even if you work a lot as the US shows us everyday. Calling people lazy and spoiled and at fault for all that happens to them is a bit intellectually dishonest.
It's cheaper to be intellectually dishonest.
@@Anto34ish UK government's true motto.
Good luck @fatAndy we just left commie fornia
As an American who has lived and worked in kitchens and delivery jobs in Italy for a few years, a majority of Italians are lazy and spoiled. The cost of living is low and jobs are available. They just think they are too good for certain positions.
Exactly
Kids can’t afford to leave home that’s the truth .
Perhaps kids nowadays
In Israel the situation is the same.
I'm working in the tech industry & struggle.
@@danielbenisti3664 True... in the middle east (including isreal) it's near impossible to buy a house and if you rent you most likely will ever be able to afford buying a house of your own... and pluse everything is so expensive and cost so much money including rent and all the stuff... I'd rather buy a house instead of renting and plus I dont want to live without my family. and also at least here parents don't kick or force their kids to move out just because they're adults or pepole shame us for it unlike in America and northern Europe were its "unacceptable" and you get bad names upon that...
@@abidubsprodection485 agree with the last part of your comment!
I'm great full for that!
@@danielbenisti3664 Like sure some people might look at it as abit weird or judge you ... but it isn't make it unacceptable... even in America pepole are living with thier parents way past 18 because of resones like most of the globe but the stigma is there unlike most of the world and isreal in wich it never existed in the first place.
"the duties are too humble." That's a interesting way of putting it but that's what you get when you educate everyone to a high degree. There ends up not being enough work for everyone.
I am 26 and I still live with my parents. I have suffered from mental issues since 11 and didn't get treated at the right time until it got out of hand. Yet I am working hard. I got an engineering degree, I am doing a PhD now. I help around the house. My parents are in their 60s and my older siblings are of no help. They are happy I am living with them and they are happy to see me not giving up on my life goals no matter how much societal pressure I have to withstand. Everyone has a different life to live. Some become rich at 15 some bloom at 40. Some die young, some live slow lives in the countryside. We can't all aim to follow the same life path. Graduate high school at 18 and leave parents house,graduate uni at 22, find a job, buy a house, marry at 26, first child at 28, seek financial independence ...etc. This is just one option of the million options you can follow in life. What if I want to become a Buddhist female monk? Youngsters you should look at the big scheme of things and understand that you are currently following a path that isn't necessarily the one you want and is most likely the one you think you are supposed to follow. If you are working hard towards your life goals,if you are really really trying to be what you want to be don't mind what others think about you. It is for you to live your life not them. Maybe it is your last day on this planet and you are wasting it on caring about what others will think of you because you still live with your parents. Don't do that. Everything falls into place at the right time for people who never give up )).
Lots of options and many ways to go
Thanks a lot
In many asian countries multi generational families are the norm. Some level of privacy and autonomy is lost but it compensates with a lot of stability, easier raising kids, shared responsibilities and cheaper living. Expecting financial support from parents is wrong but multi-generational families are not.
pay some rent or share some living cost
Yes, however the Asian children pay rent to the parents and save money thanks to the cheaper living and then buy a house, get married/have kids etc. It's a strategy of flourishing. Everywhere Asians do the same thing, surviving and flourishing. Having worked with Italians and travelled there for work, I do feel that Italy is a dying country. It's so much poorer when compared to France, Netherlands or Germany.
Stay away asia
Im.german
@Xi Pinping City Planner yes because in the end they want that tax money.
I so much agree with you ! I think the obsession to link independence with living alone ( not at parent’s home ) is so outdated ....as u mentioned Asia is a new model ..... and in many cases more successful then Europe ( Americans are different in all ways .... 🤷♂️)
Really great for mental health to start shaming people isn't it?
Like they don't feel shamed already
@@kolacao8134 easy to say that
@Luís Andrade yoire weird
@Luís Andrade you're not being honest. You actually sound mad that your parents didn't love you enough to take care of you.
@Luís Andrade Your comments are just poisonous. None of my friends who work all the time and still have to live at home have anything to feel ashamed about.
I am 33 and I finally moved out of my Grandparents house last year. While I do love them, I can see that I wasn't progressing there and I needed to develop some life skills as an adult, such as cooking for myself, navigating dating on my own (a mess at first), paying bills, being responsible, cleaning my own space because no one's gonna do it for me, choosing my OWN career path instead of obeying what they wanted me to do, and just making it as an adult. I left because I started to feel embarrassed mooching off of them when I could support myself. I say, if you have the means to support yourself, JUST DO IT, and don't let fear hold you back. Living on my own gives me the freedom to make my own choices and a sense of pride that I can take care of myself. If you're hesitating, now's the time!!
Remember. The boomers told us everyone should study hard and get atleast a degree.
Now that almost everyone has a degree, the job market is so screwed to the point thst degree holders are working in McDonalds because no one would hire them...
Even those with a diploma suffer even worse...
Sadly that is true, I graduated from high school in 2007, went out looking for work in my hometown and got nowhere, doesn't help I have mental health issues as well so good luck finding work with that where people actually want to help you succeed, these days everyone is out for themselves
Being with family is human.
Being with family is lazy life for man
Yes, it is, but, 30-year-old man needs his own family, and not depending on his aging parents. What are these men going to do when their parents pass away and they’ve never even had a job before or can’t do simple things for themselves, like cook or do laundry?
I left my mother house with debt 13 years ago with 23old, know I’m 36 independent have my own home payoff, all this just work as labor man construction, cleaning, restaurant bunch of simp lazy man grow up and I’m from Brasil 🇧🇷
Growing up and being responsible for oneself is even more human. You don’t have to leave the family, only stop living out of your parents when you are grown up.
@@allwhatilove914 Who said hes living off his parents
As a father and an Arab I will be glad to see my children even if they are 90 years old coming to live with me even forever !
My children are my children and age doesn’t change that .
I think all asian Families are like this
Exactlyyyy
It's the whole world except western whites. They like abandoning their parents and dying alone.
@@tanvirhossain5700 It's not that they like abandoning their parents. They're often expected to move out at 18, it doesn't do much to strengthen family bonds.
@@user-ry6jj6kx2s Just look at the number of western people dying in nursing home vs the non western people. Yes there are exceptions but non western people will take care of their parents till they die. On the other hand it is very common in the west to find elderly dead bodies in home discovered by neighbours by the rotten smell.
In many traditional cultures where family was/is really important, the children stay with their parents, the parents support them into adulthood and by the time they are adults the parents would have grown old and the children then support their aged parents with care, love and grandchildren to care for and be cared by. Seems like a sensible culture to me. The individualistic, "living with parents is bad" attitude (and later leaving parents in nursing homes) seems to be more of a product of modern American culture.
In India we have the same culture as you have said
I'm a lone child. Even though I live in the West, I will never leave my parents. Without them and their sacrifices, I probably would been living in poverty in the slums or doing god knows what. Also, my culture is very family-oriented and I grew up living with my nan and uncle's families.
Being a lone child is hard sometimes.
Asian parents : why you go? You crazy? What we gonna do with our 10 rooms and 12 car parks? You want money? How much? Come back eat rice!
Eat rice is the highlight here 😁😁😁
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That's my parents, being in cultural avantgarde and embarrassing me in Poland xD
Weeell, except the rice. Instead it's "Do you eat?? I'll bring you food!"
My fellow malaysian relates to this well
Mmmm...rice.
"Big babies" because yeah we it's hard to find a job and we cant buy houses that cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and have huge amounts of debt from college. Its impossible to live on your own with minimum wage!
Major facts.
I don’t actually think that college debt in Italy is on the same level as American
@@sofiatempone3494 debt is still debt no matter where you are, you still gotta pay money back anyways.
Why would you need to buy a house as your first own home? Start small and cheap and work your way up.
"it's hard to find a job"
It is not the responsibility of others to create jobs for you. Create something on your own and earn your living.
You could rent a flat with friends, like young people do it in other countries.
Govt acting like they paying for their expenses, not the parents
There is nothing wrong with living with your parents.
Finaly somone says that!
And here i am 28 this year and still living with my mom, and my mom 53 still living in my grandma house 😂😂
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I had the same thing 😂 infact my aunt's have only moved out when they got married. My grandma has passed but it's still my mum and her two sisters. I've moved back home.
if i come back to my home city i livin in grandparents house too cause i dont have parents anymore they already passed away my parents house need rebuild too, therefore i working outside of my city where bigger standard salary present
God bless you men , you still have u family
😂😂😂😂love this comment!
Here in Africa is the norm to live in your family compound till you are old, it is not frowned up. The boy child is encouraged to build in the compound & live with his family there. If you are struggling financially you can dish food from the main house. Cases of homelessness are none existent & we don't have nursing homes because when our parents get old we take care of them. Swaziland (Southern Africa)🇸🇿❤️
Same in India. Men mostly stay with parents if they work at the same place, or take the parents to new city to live together. Women move out completely only when they get married.
That makes my heart happy to hear. This is how all cultures traditionally were and it has been destroyed in western countries. Traditionally we all lived in close-knit communities where the whole family/community helped to raise the children and then take care of the elderly. Happy to hear this is still taking place in your culture
@@brit4294 Destroyed? You mean western countries have become less racist in recent years. That is because western countries have shifted some of their empathy towards out-groups, unlike non-western countries that have almost zero empathy for out-groups (hence why none of their countries accept refugees of difference religions or races, why they don't start up animal shelters or become vegan, why they don't donate blood and organs anywhere near as often to strangers as they do in western countries, why they don't donate to charity as much (unless it's to their own church or their own child's school, or some other self-serving charity). ADVChina/SerpentZA says that strangers in the street who get hurt don't get help in a certain non-western country, because unless you are part of their inner circle, you are worthless to them. This is why their countries have so much corruption: becasue people don't care if their actions hurt nameless strangers, as long as themselves and their own family benefits. Go read the article "The Rise of Universalism" by JayMan. It explains how northwestern Europe was the first to move away from cousin marriage, and how this caused some of the empathy that was reserved only for kin to shift to non-kin. Hence why northwestern Europeans donate the most organs and blood, become vegan the most often, are the least racist, take responsibility for the ecosystem the most, have the least corrupt institutions, etc.
Similar situation in Nepal
@The BOSS no he is right and forget about citation if his argument is flawed in your opinion than point out the flaws and see if your counter-argument actually holds up against reality and not what some lunatic activist professor ones wrote to get attention and approval.
calling them big babies is demeaning , nothing wrong with staying with parents to look after them when they become old. I hate that governments and media redicule people who don't follow social norms
Bruh the social norm is helping your parents, they are the weird ones
"SuPrEme CoUrT seNdS wAkE uP cAll tO bIg BaBiEs"
Give them jobs instead of talking.
ikr XD
And what's the problem.? The Italian are known as respecting their families... It is good to stay united !
I see a problem, when a 30 y/o guy does not do his own laundry, clean his own room and cook his own meals. If he lives with his parents he should at least make an effort and help them with household chores.
@@irener.3849 of course !!!
But who told that does not do that ?
The problem is that the socialist utopian Italian government is broke with no tax incomes. Duh!
@@irener.3849 and work a honest job! If their parents stopped supporting them they’ll take that restaurant job.
I think the issue is the fact that they aren't staying home because they want to but because they aren't unable to move out even though they would have if the financial situation had been different. I lived with my mom until a couple of years ago but I did it because I wanted to. I wasn't a financial burden since I covered the rent. I was big baby who had her clothes cleaned and food cooked though jjjj
So Italy doesn't control the jobs black market meaning the only available jobs are cleaning restaurant toilets.....
And this is the fault of the young people how?
They will always blame us, it's nice and easy for them to do so.
Why should anybody question on a person living with his parents in his or her 30's 40's or 50's.... If he is ok and happy then it's good
The audacity! Big babies? Why aren't you talking about employers? If you're just out of highschool/university how can you have years of experience that they want? You're ending in circle where nobody wants you to give a job because you're "not qualified enough". Sometimes people may end up working as an intern getting 300/400€ X month. Can a person live with that amount of money alone? And being an intern doesn't mean they will give you a stable job after your contract is over. Why keep a person on a full time basis if you can get an intern for much less which will be doing the same amount of things as a full time worker? Yes, there are people who don't want to work, stay at home and they like it that way but it's stupid to assume that a person who lives with parents is a big baby. Before doing some interviews inform yourself about the realities. I have some good job opportunities where I live but I'm not an electrician, a farmer of some kind, a welder or ever worked in a construction with nails and hammer. I'm just a girl studying intercultural communication at the university. Do you think I can apply for those and they will give me a job with zero experience in those fields? Once I had an interview for a part time job at the pizzeria (cutting pizza, making sandwiches, sounded good for summer) but I was rejected because they wanted a somebody who had more experience with a cash register. And lately I've found out some people reject your CV just because you're a student. One guy asked me how can I work if I'm still studying. I want to move out and be independent but at this moment I don't see how. GFC and have a great day
My son-in-law has a master degree in chemical engineering with additional qualifications such as project management. His mother is an English professor so he speaks English perfectly. He was one of the lucky ones...... he went to England and found a job there in his field of expertise.
My visit to Rome also brought a surprise! Archeologists etc cannot get jobs. So I found a master degree archeologist leading our tour for a mere pittance! With Corona virus, I can assume that his part-time tourism job has now disappeared!
It is sad indeed that EU countries like Italy, Spain and Portugal have no growth in the economy for 22 years. My niece has a master degree in applied mathematics and could not find a suitable job in Portugal. She also studied robotics. ..... the young people are frustrated because they cannot marry and support a wife!
That's really socking, I guess these countries only make money from tourism,football and wine and meat, but these are not the field where highly educated people needed!!!
They should invest more on technology and stuff, that's the future
Portugal is the 3rd peaceful country in the world plus in Lisbon and Porto develop a big start up Szene because also taxes are very low in Portugal. So in my opinion Portugal have a great Future as Europe's Silicon Valley.
Celvin Scott It is great to see your hope but this Corona has destroyed many economies. Lets hope you are right!
Yeah my mom's coworker has two degrees, I believe both masters, and he works at a gym's reception. Gyms have also been closed for a while now. I just graduated high school in Italy and I'm trying to emigrate... there is no future here.
I'm in South Africa, I have two masters degrees - one in technology management and about 6 years working experience. I can't find a job and I'm competing with a 30% unemployment rate, dying economy and carona 🙈 I don't know what to do. My moral is extremely low and I've had to move back home. In the mean time I've started a online shop on order to take care of my basic necessities. I really do feel hopeless for the future.
People all over the world are living much longer with their parents. The financial instability is increasing and the number of married with children are also declining.
It's all by design. That's why you see the same all over the world.
@@holymegadave yes, but probably not in the way you mean
@@holymegadave This scarcity in the age of abundance is artificial.
"financial instability is increasing", perhaps because Socialism is increasing?
@@earlysda you have no idea what socialism is. And even in your flawed analysis that's a ridiculous claim. Most of the western world has been living under austerity economics since the 2008 financial crash. We've seen massive tax cuts for the rich and bailouts for corporations while government services have been gutted and the cost of education increased. There's literally no congruent way for you to make this argument.
I’m 30 from Canada and still live with my parents. We have a pretty big house, though I work and spend my own money. My dad can’t drive due to health issues so I drive him to work and around town. I have friends, but my only other option would be to live alone which is something I don’t really want to do.
I tried to live alone, trust me I did. I lived alove for 5 years, working 2 jobs, studying college, buying my own stuff. I accrued 10k in debt and i grew fat and unhealthy due to the crazy ammount of fast foods and lack of sleep. Im now living with my parents and I'm unemployed yet I'm helping them with everything and I have less debt now. Companies urge you to leave family to profit off you.
Me here have work but no more family to go back in too I'm so alone lol
I strongly disagree with "big babies"
First off, the world can not support us
And we were born into this. Not a choice, not laziness. Just money, it's all about the money flow. It's not going on the right direction so we suffer. Plus, traditional families stayed together for protection and for MONEY sooo...yea
I left my house when I was 17 but I don't discriminate those who have not.
Great comment! The government's haven't helped, and the cost of independence is high and just getting a home for some is nigh on impossible.
In Asia ( india) we live with our parents. It doesn't matter if we have proper job or not .
The problem is not if they live at "home".... The problem is that they are assuming their adult responsibilities!...I had to go back to my parents place when I divorced... to recover...then it's time to get back tlo the real world! I con't care if you say ..."Ok boomer"!!
@@rauldempaire5330 Seems like you had the funds to sustain your independence, good. Don't look down on those that don't have that, however. In other words, "okay boomer". :)
mitzi Deon soooo it’s convenient but you NEVER GROW UP
In Croatia, moving out from parents house often means building a second floor on the house. Living with parents is very common, just like in Italy
In Greece we do the same thing. Most Southern European cultures do that. It's because we love are families and because it has more economic benefits for both the parents and the children.
@@starman1144 in Brazil it's the same, most parents will feel offended if you move out for no reason other than going to university , marriage or because you found a better job in another town or country . But once you have a job you have to help your parents to pay the bills and buy your own stuff, only very rich people don't do that .
@@starman1144 yes my friend. We like to live our lifes casually without a lot of stress. Little work and a lot of enjoying in the sun with your friends.
@@meloderieugif2294 Sounds pretty much asian.
@@meloderieugif2294 EXACTLY same in the Philippines
It's ok to live with your parents.
It's not ok not to help them and not be able to support yourself.
From experience I don't question the 30 or 40 year old, I question the training of the parents. The child is usually the reflection of the parents.
Wow! I love the Italian Mom and Dad,” If my son is in need,we can’t abandon him.”Families are the back bone of the society.All Asians cultures are like this and am glad Europeans think the same 😊
And us Latinos ... We are VERY family orientated
@@josetheboss913 Very true 👍
The russians are family oriented
Nothing wrong with living with your parents as long as you contribute financially and in doing the housework.
Sadly, the English do not think this way. I have financial support if needed but emotional and physical, I do not.