What The Audience Wants More Than Anything Else - Jack Grapes
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Jack Grapes is an award-winning poet, playwright, actor, teacher, and the editor and publisher of ONTHEBUS, one of the top literary journals in the country. He has won several publishing grants and Fellowships in Literature from the National Endowment for the Arts. He's also received nine Artist-in- Residence Grants from the California Arts Council to teach writing in various schools throughout Los Angeles. He is the author of 13 books of poetry, including TREES, COFFEE, AND THE EYES OF DEER, and BREAKING DOWN THE SURFACE OF THE WORLD. A spoken-word CD, Pretend, was recently issued by DePaul University. He is also author of a chapbook of poems and paintings titled AND THE RUNNING FORM, NAKED, BLAKE. His most recent publication is LUCKY FINDS, a boxed set of 50 cards that extend and parody the dynamic artistic productions of high-modernist poets such as Ezra Pound and Charles Olson. For more information on Jack's classes, please visit: jackgrapes.com/classesgeneral...
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Karen, you put yourself on the line here so we could all become better storytellers. Thanks for your courage.
Ohshit, Good Blood was here.
I got goosebumps when he started asking those questions and got Karen to expose her own deeper truth. Really needed to hear this tonight. Thanks so much Karen for all of these interviews!
Respect, Karen
No, she didn't. Putting herself on the line would have been telling her story. She was pushed by Jack into the situation and deliberately *didn't* put herself on the line. The work was all Jack. He was the one who kept pushing and elicited her emotion so we could all become better storytellers.
And thank you for being good blood, we hav enrichi bad blood in this world already
Came for writing advice, stayed for the Socratic unraveling of one's psyche.
Me too, exactly.
ah you beat me to it haha
😆😆 trueee
Hahahahaha 😂
Accurate!
“Write how you talk; don’t try and be a writer.” That was very much needed, especially since I’ve looked back at old work and not felt a soul in it.
"Simple" is not the same thing as "easy." I spend half my writing time getting past my own desire to impress myself and get to the truth of what I want to say. Jack's methods have helped me a bunch.
@@treshathepoetrysalon7231 Exactly. It ironically takes more time to condense complex concepts into easily digested, accessible forms. It doesn't take a lot of talent to look up a bunch of asinine synonyms and litter one's work with unnecessary purple prose. We all learned that the hard way. "Loquacious" and "verbose" is not even congruent let alone equal to "intelligent."
Reading your comment made me want to endure the remaining 13:00 of this slightly painful and irritating process. Kudos to you AND ESPECIALLY TO KAREN!
That was a lesson I learned in martial arts. The more I thought about it, the clunkier I became. The smoothest had been when I did not think hard, but let my body moved as it needed to. Same with writing, I came to focus more on creating a story that held a lesson and emotional meaning, rather than how I sounded or what made me seem fancy. Take out what other's think sometimes, let yourself be guided by how you feel and what you want to inspire others to feel. That helps me, hopefully it is decent advice for helping you too. Also, it has been a year since you saw this, how is your writing now?
The best example of this that I know of is Jordan Belfort in Wolf of Wallstreet. He’s “speech” is hilarious!
This was insane. This video is actually a demonstration of the concept. We pay for the stuff that is real. Thank you for sharing Karen!
Cheers!
Captain Sindbad!
Thank you Karen. Hugs from Chile
@@filmcourage wow! these questions were like a complex Math question. I felt the whoo also! That was very, very tough!!!
“Writing is easy; you just open a vein and bleed” - some writer
Hemingway, I believe.
Paraphrased: "I barb wire my wrist, and let it fill the page." - Black Thought
Virginia Woolf
Wow 🙆🏽♂️, so deep and raw.
- Stewie Griffin
That was tough to watch. Really commend the presenter for staying professional even when she felt so emotional.
She's the best, that's why.
That's kind, thank you Eddy!
agreed, I felt like giving a final exam , damn!
The emotion _is_ the profession
@@filmcourage It's more than kind; it's true. If you're Karen, then you stayed with Grapes as best you could, following notions you appeared to be totally new to, and yet open to receiving them on the deepest level. You didn't waffle, you didn't flake. You took the challenge, stayed the course, and learned something good yet difficult. These are the kinds of challenges that change lives - change *souls* - for the better. And I respect you for it.
She is the best interviewer of writers out there. She knows how to allow them to speak, doesn’t interrupt, and even has the courage to go through this on the spot. She’s great.
Thanks Chris, appreciate your support!
I think this was the most most raw, most intimate, most uncomfortable, most intrusive, most incisive, most human and most brave piece of film I've ever seen. Thank you Karen for having the guts to show this. I think everyone in the comments section right now wish they could shake your hand or give you a hug.
Holy Hell,this was rough,but it's so clarifying. Thank you for enduring this grilling. Yikes!
I love the dramatic reversal of this entire interview. She thought she was going to question him, and get an answer from him. Instead, he questioned her, and forced her to find her own answers within...in places she didn't even want to look.
that was beautifully said
great interview.
8:13 Jack is ruthless. "Put yourself in danger." I'm stealing that
"They want blood... and you give it to them." Wow! That is so tragically true I had tears in my eyes.
This man just changed my whole concept of story writing in quarter of an hour. Awesome!
Thanks Karen for being so tough and pushing through this interview. I don't think many would be able to do that on the spot, but you really gave it your all and showed your audience what it would take. Thank you for letting us share that and learn from you. Take care. 🙂
Before this guy gives you a compliment, he makes you jump through a lot of hoops. He doesn't give out compliments cheaply. I could sense the heat put on Karen and she handled it well.
He was all up in her Kool-Aid! I'm here for it!
@@joshuakilroy7599 😆
@@joshuakilroy7599 lol yeah, I want to know what she discovered!
@@juneychick She was either adopted, or her biological father was someone other than who she thought it was...and she was never told until recently. There are not many other options beyond those.
This is why we can't make good films anymore, everything is reboots and super hero flicks.
This guys true technique is the embodiment of empathy. He's obviously thought a lot about how to truly empathise, which we all appreciate and can relate to. I think we crave it actually, in such a crazy world. This guy gets it.
"Film Courage." Karen, you demonstrated the true meaning behind the name of the channel. This was a transformative experience for us all. Thank you for the lesson.
yikes
This video is somehow simultaneously profoundly enlightening and educational while deeply moving.
I was torn between wanting to give Karen a hug and being captivated with what felt like morbid fascination by watching Jack pull Karen out of her shell making me feel like some type of emotional peeping Tom, to show how to make a deeply emotionally honest story.
It would have been perfectly understandable for you to not want to share this Karen, but I am very grateful you decided to.
Thank you for the amazing work and the amazing guest.
That was the best writing exercise I've ever seen. Really brilliant.
It completely baffles me how so many people say they haven't been feeling like they are living because of the pandemic. The pandemic was the first time in year I have ever felt alive. So much free time. Being able to wake up early and watch the sunrise, watch the sunset, stay on my window listening to music while looking at the trees, the birds... it was amazing.
The human experience is really unique to each one of us. "Living" can take as many forms as there are people in this world.
I feel like those people just had their distractions taken away, and had to really think about what their life is / was.
I think that what people really mean when they say that is that they were not living before, and now they are waking up and realising they've been on autopilot for too long.
It’s funny that she blamed the pandemic at first, but what she was struggling with had nothing to do wi5 the pandemic. The pandemic just took away the distractions that would ease the pain of what she was going through.
Well, I was lucky, i'm a software engineer and I didnt loose my job, they sent us to work from home instead of going every day to the office.
I'm grateful the pandemia alowed me to live the way I wanted, take care of mi dog and the cats, sit on the garden, have meals with my family. 9 hours of work plus an hour and a half to commute plus take cafe of the house the shopping the bills and the everyday life that consumed muy life and had to do everything on the run.
I'm more alive than ever, I can do what I'm allways wanted, I work to share with my family but I wasnt there to share, now Iam. For me that is living.
Life is like radiation, a uniquely damaging event.
Those first couple of minutes where Jack is challenging you to "go deeper". He is giving a masterclass on how to write, how to create engaging characters with meaningful stories, how to engage the audience in bigger and deeper questions of life through the personal journeys of the characters.
And the fact that you Karen struggled in answering the questions, demonstrates exactly what happens to most people. When asked directly, "What's going on in your life? And what is underneath that?" people will struggle.
A GREAT interview and a great presentation. Thank you for putting yourself in the spotlight here.
Jack is so good at what he does. He's sensitive, empathetic, and gently probing. I'm remembering how powerful his classes and his methods are; truly life-changing practices. I also appreciate the way Karen stayed open to this deep process and has shared this exchange. I was brought to tears many times when participating in his workshops.
UNCOMFORTABLE interview but some wisdom here lol. My favorite part was at the end "that felt like therapy but its not, its to write a story people will buy." Here I realized he's a legend
Yes, this was the one advice that I felt I had to watch again and again to "get into the zone". It was painful to watch the presenter go through it (but glad she did her best) because I had goose bumps on my skin at the end of it! If you can replicate or pass on that empathy to your readers or viewers it's basically the reason why you should be trying to write in the first place. Best lesson I learner on anything in a long time.
This is the greatest bit of advice for a writer I have ever encountered. Thank you Karen for your work, and thank you Jack for your leadership to help her find that deeper meaning.
Not everyday you watch some video on youtube that match so perfectly with the channel name, and it's meaning. Trully amazing!
Cheers! Glad this one found you.
Almost felt like Hannibal playing with his food.
That's exactly what this was
Almost👍🏼
Quality comment! 👏👏👏
Exactly
@Roughman yeah but Hannibal watches others play with his food. The food he prepared for them! And so they enjoyed..To his delight! Nice comment pal couldn’t resist a retort! 👍
Holy Crap! This is amazing. I GET what he was saying. ALOT.
My God, that was fantastic. I'm a musician and I can see the same principle applying to composing and performing.
One of the most powerful episodes y'all have done! "...the artist creates with their soul, with their being...that's what you have to suffer." Awesome-sauce.
Ok, that's it, I'm buying his books. This sir is a gem.
This was such a great interview. I loved that he was teaching you as he explained his methods to us, the viewers. He seems like a great teacher.
"Be brave, be bold, and mighty forces will come to your aid."
God that was powerful.
This is dialectic therapy at its finest. So simple, cutting to the chase. Did not expect going this deep at a screenwriters youtube snippet. Wow.
Evey script I write is an act of self discovery. To escape Hell, you have to travel to its darkest parts and confront what's there. This is necessary for transformation so you might as well get a good story out of it. People are often afraid to do this because they worry that they'll reveal their ugliest secrets to the world but you don't become a better person by believing you're already fine the way you are. When you believe that, you're just leaving your worst failings in the dark to fester and grow. That's when they truly become harmful.
I have been agonizing over how to move ahead after the inciting incident in my novel for over a month. I had thrown away so many ideas. Nothing felt right. It was too much back story without emotion. Then Karen said "I've been really thinking." and you took it to a new level. Thank you. It is true. When the student is ready the teacher will appear.
As a writer, and I finally feel confident calling myself a writer, this talk has given me so much inspiration and motivation to write from my heart. Thank you for sharing this with me.
This is one of the realest and bravest videos I've ever seen. Karen, thank you for going where Jack asked you to go, so all of us could learn.
This is so powerful that you need to watch this over and over until it becomes second nature in your storytelling technique.
Yes, agree!
I don’t know how, but I’ve got tears on my eyes when I was watching this. And it inspire me to finish some scripts which I’m writing now and with which I had problems. Thank you for such powerful energy!
Hands down the most impactful writing lesson I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen many really good ones, none that made me feel that way. This was a bloody beautifully confusing clip of an extremely warm and caring person doing a bone chilling interrogation in an undestated and loving way. Opened my eyes and my soul.
I am also in tears. This advice hit hard, particularly writing from a point of being bold & brave. EMPATHY & CONNECTION. Thank you, Jack!
As an artist-this kind of was like therapy, for me. This was awesome!
This was the most inspiring video I've ever watched in regard to writing. 👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿 love this channel
Wow, very strong praise for this one! Great to see how much this one resonates with you Damani!
It's strange to see someone give words to what you've been thinking of for so long, but couldn't find the way to do so. This is very well said.
“Your stories are universal, they’re everybody’s story”
I love this man's energy. I often write from the deep "huuh" place....but I always feared sharing those stories....because they are my soul. But this inspired me to share them. This man is so inspiring. Thank you sir.
Jack is a great teacher. I’ve only watched him here on your channel but he’s a huge inspiration the way he breaks everything down and deconstructs it.
That very last laugh had the genuine quality of being preceded by deep emotions. Sincere and cathartic.
This brought me to a place... Great work, Karen.. Thank you for being vulnerable for us.
I feel like Karen is going to drop the next Bible with all this profound knowledge and wisdom. Love Jack Grapes little interviews.
I think this is why the most memorable films I own - the ones I watch over and over, like Darkest Hour, Dear Frankie, Moonstruck, Working Girl - are the ones with a hopeful ending. Not a happy ending, which would deal with a specific, but a hopeful ending that says something has changed and life has a chance of getting better.
This is why the ending of Good Will Hunting is so good. Will's driving down the highway to go and get his girl back. We don't see him get her back, and we never know if he actually did. She might still reject him after what he did. All we are left with is the hope that he does get her back.
This was beautiful inspiration
Thanks Jamie, we appreciate your work as well.
aaahh!! mr.costa first time i witnessed your awsome acting was wolverine & you were perfect.the sentinal foot at the end.i believe you were the first to actually have a hint of a sentinal without it being animation/cartoon.
Suddenly, Jack Grapes became my therapist...
Amazing, that class he teaches must be a really life changing experience. Thanks.
I’ve listened and learned from so many of these. This was the first one that made me want to give Karen a big hug. Thanks for staying in there. We were all with you.
"Can we have an example." I am at a loss for words. I had never heard such a good answer. Best wishes from Switzerland ♥
Good job Karen. We relate to human emotions. Audiences what to know why a character feels and acts the way they do. We want to see them overcome the negativity in their lives.
Brilliant. The playlist with all the interviews with Jack is superb. And this new video is a gem. Deep insight into connecting with our most intimate and true selves, channeling and transforming our lived experience into something concrete, of and beyond ourselves - art for want of a better word. Why great literature, any great art, moves and stirs us, speaks directly to us. Thank you for sharing and thank you for bringing Jack to my awareness.
Great comment, thanks for posting!
@@filmcourage This Talk by Jack G. felt like an "Uplifting Therapy" 👍
I very rarely comment on a video but here I am. Most of the time, the path to emotional truth leads through discomfort and devastation which you've demonstrated here for our education. Thank you for the courage and keep up the scintillating work!
Cheers! Our best to you and your work.
He is so sweet. People should understand authentic writing is not easy. Everyone can write, but not everyone is a writer.
A tough man, though full of humanity and compassion
He has just opened Pandora' s box and shown us where the magic is hidden. Fantastic video, thank you so much - this is pure gold! 😀
this was beautiful. I was moved to tears.
The best thing Film Courage has done so far that I've seen. This is an excellent idea. Practical, actionable, difficult and rewarding.
I just want to give her a big hug…
Getting to that speechless state is the key to shattering the illusion of writer's block. That is where the drive to write comes from. Holding onto that energy of wanting to express what has yet to be expressed is what ignites the writing process. Wow. Thank you so much Mr. Grapes. And thank you Karen for allowing yourself to be so vulnerable for us in order to experience this truth through you.
Thank you for this! I really love how receptive you are in these interviews and willing you are to make yourself vulnerable. That’s how we learn and move forward. Very few people (myself included) are able to do this particularly in public settings such as interviews. These are so informative. I feel like I’m riding the rollercoaster of transformation along with you. Thank you again
Thank you David!
They don't make them like Jack anymore, golden generation. Love listening to your interviews with Mr. Grapes. This was the best one yet, Karen made it the bestest.
that was too deep to throw on an interviewer spontaneously lol.
but that was really great, I love that, leanred more in this video than majority of classes
Well done sticking with it Karen. Thank you for sharing with us. Hope you're ok
i am a painter and i love watching these film courage videos. everything being said is usually for a different medium but the messages still come across profoundly
“I’m not a therapist”. Well you certainly could be Jack 😂
Gold. Absolute gold. Courage. Well done and thank you. I really needed this. Film Courage - you good thing...
Sending you our best Edgar!
"Whew"......I will start my story from there. Thank you Film Courage. 😯
How am I just now finding this channel? A gold mine of great content.
Cheers! Hope you continue to find value here!
The ammount of value this man added to my screenwriting and my life in just 17 minutes. holy shit
How do you feel? What does this video make you think about?
I found this guy to be deeply invasive and domineering. I really don't think it was a healthy attitude to hold. He could have taught those lessons without needed to do it in this manner. I could be wrong, but I did not get the sense he was a close personal friend. But the interviewer was clearly uncomfortable and he pushed into that under the guise of 'this is art'. It's the interviewer's life and not his business. Again, I could be wrong. They may have had a conversation before hand about how far they were happy to go but Karen seemed to be blindsided. It felt ugly and crass to be so painful while doing the whole 'I am an artist, this is how we make art.' Very uncomfortable. I really hope the interviewer had time to process afterwards. I feel like, even if this process was welcome, there should have been a disclaimer as otherwise I think his approach can be seen as very unprofessional - a harmful precedent to set in an industry where this kind of behaviour can be idolised. The lesson for creating was very good. He got to central truths. Yes, we all need to do this kind of processing. We don't need to be forced to do it so somebody can present their own 'genius.' I hope Karen had a heavy hand in the editing of this video and was happy for this to all go out. I hope it was cathartic in some way.
@@robhardingpoetry So much this. The, "now go deeper stuff made sense", but was frustrating in that he wasn't actually giving real guidance, just repeating the same lines. Would have been better to give a personal example first. But, when he got to the VERY personal part and started pushing for what was obviously not something she wanted to share I got incredibly mad.
I've been seeing a therapist for years and I coulda just talked to this guy for 17 minutes?
This video makes me think I've been on the right track the last 10 years of this filmmaking journey.
the name of the game is vulnerability
12:36
Some of the greatest stories stem from real life traumas. I think Jack demonstrates how to get to them with his technique. Powerful stuff. Thank you Karen for being vulnerable for the sake of art.
Wow, this is exactly what I was looking for, how to access and incorporate raw emotion in my work. I'm not involved with film, I'm a painter yet I come to watch your videos regularly. You're a fantastic interviewer and your guests share universally applicable advice. Thank you. And thank you for your courage to be this vulnerable. You're a titan and a gem!
One of the best writing lessons, ever!
One of the most unique interview moments i ever had the pleasure of witnessing. Thanks to you guys
It’s early morning on my day off and I’ve just listened to someone verbalise something I stumbled upon in my art practice. Thank you for this interesting interview
Great to hear Meryl! Hope today was a fun creative one for you.
This man is a GENIUS.!. Thank You, Thank You, Thank You ! Every author and playwright needs to listen to Jack.
This is great for people who are not into self awareness. Most people do not go deep, which is actually why people in general are depressed, sick and unhappy. That is why people are stuck, too busy pointing out the short comings of others because they do not take the journey inward. I like this guy.
wow... this is amazing. As a game writer, this was really amazing and got me very emotional even.
Great to see you find value here Renan. This is one of our more emotional videos.
As a published writer, this is easily one of the best writing channels in existence.
That was powerful to experience along with Karen. This technique helps to remove the "chit chat" and to speak with your true voice. I will definitely apply it to my current novel. Thank you!!!
Masterclass in only 17 mins... This guy is GOOD GOOD!!!
This was REALLY powerful and useful. His walking you through the process of breaking down your experience into a relatable story is priceless. Brilliant directions. And thank you, Karen, for sharing your experiences with us.
Film Courage is an invaluable source for filmmakers and writers. FC should have millions of subscribers. If you have not subscribed to this channel, I encourage you to do so.
Doing our best, thank you for your continued support!
This man is an incredible teacher. Love listening to his points of view.
Karen. This is why you are the best. Thank you for bringing Jack on and being so brave. This channel lives up to its name.
Wow!! I’m in tears… Mr. Jack and Ms. Karen WHOA NELLY!! This was soooo good. Thank you for thissss!! GOD BLESS ❤️❤️❤️
When I tell you nothing happens by accident, that applies to how I just stumbled across this video at a pivotal moment of a current Drama screenplay that I'm trying to conclude. This was DEEP!! God is so AMAZING!! I know my screenplay and baring my pain and past to hopefully save someone elses is coming at a crucial time and at a time the world really needs this. May God Bless all of you and best of luck on yalls story telling/screenwriting journey🙏🙏
I definitely see where he's coming from. This video was definitely a case of "take the meat and spit out the bones" for me. Such a great tool but one to be used with wisdom. The audience "wanting blood" doesn't mean we sacrifice ourselves on their alter. I dare say, that mentality without temperance is what has some artists living such tormenting lives in the name of "making art". Tormented lives with tragic endings and in the end they and their families suffer behind the scenes as the audience "enjoys" and moves on with their own lives.
I do appreciate the statement " it felt like therapy BUT IT ISN'T".
I would say if this is a method one wants to try, please do it alongside actual therapy. Your well-being is much more important than " creating art. "
Thank you Karen for holding space for us. My heart really does go out to you. I wish you well with whatever it is you're processing and thank you for mentioning that it's okay if someone isn't ready to share publicly yet along with the reality of considering other people who may be impacted by the work we choose to make.
Thank you. :)
Life is art... Wellbeing is creating art 😊
Some, can feel stuck, traumatised , confused and going to therapy for years without results... OR as he suggested write your story... create art from your pain ❤
@@katalinmanzqueenmonga2781 Totally agree with you. Art is my wellbeing. I feel this would be a great therapeutic exercise for a lot of people....but not everyone was born to be artists even if everyone has that potential. A true artist sees art AS their meaning in life, as their therapy, as their purpose and by creating it they find peace, even in the darkest of reflections. So I disagree with the statement that your wellbeing is more important than creating art....when for an artist they are the same thing.
So beautiful. So powerful. Thank you. Much love.
Thank you Karen, I wish you the best of everything.
I'm at 5:00 right now, but this is THE best video you ever posted already 👍
I thought I somehow knew what there is to know, but this is amazing
I'm pretty sure you don't have to suffer, in every possible way.. But it's really amazing, maybe even insane. I really like him, I actually identify with him, but seeing him going further then I would ever go; it's impressive and repulsive at the same time.
Don't get me wrong, I still admire where it comes from, but it's weird to see a other person be 'my absolute best', while I'm not actually sure if I would still myself at that point..
I guess this video is art at itself, I have a lot to think about 👍😄
While I'm very curious about who you are, more then that I hope you have positive memories about this interview, because it made me think about some worst-case-scenario's. That's definitely part of writing a movie, but I'm hoping some subjects can be avoided, although I understand that some people have a way higher threshold for that kind of shi..
Very impressed by this interview, I'm certain I'm not going to forget this lesson any time soon. 😉