yes, I have designed some few cools' things and print them, but the problem is the printed design always come out with different color then the one I design with (using CMYK, that what lead me to your channel because I really want to understand print design
Thanks for this! I'm a junior graphic designer that's assumed to know everything the higher up designers understand sooo you might have just saved my job! You're the best, so helpful!
This was a wonderful brush up from college. I have been all digital for 4 years and didnt touch print design much. Now Im going into a new job thatll be way more print
Most people dont know that there is a huge gap between graphic designers and printers. This channel is very informative and helpful, Thank you very much guys!
Hey Dave. Amazing content, I follow every episode of your podcasts: print design and The quickie. Your way to explain things and interview people is really engaging. Keep on going man! Wonderful job for our design community. Thanks!
I've typically only worked with beauty products and children's activity kits haha 2 random industries! This video was so helpful in understanding that more technical side of things. I usually just design, while the business owner chooses the paper weight and such.
PPI can describe monitor resolution, but it also describes print resolution. In the print industry, PPI is more likely to be the correct way to speak of printed resolution of a digital image rather than DPI, because DPI is mostly a characteristic of digital printers (inkjets, etc). Once you get into more conventional print methods like offset or screenprint, you start talking in LPI (lines per inch) instead of DPI for the output device, due to the use of halftoning to produce tints and gradations in color. PPI is still the more correct term to use for image resolution in this case as well. At my shop, we regularly print 75-120PPI, but the printers actual DPI is between 600 and 1200DPI, because you want a lot of ink droplets for each pixel of an image. Our typical PPI is so low because we're doing wide format digital inkjet for things like vehicle wraps, lots of 53ft trailers - 108in x 630in prints.
DPI and PPI are different things and thus should not be used interchangeably. Doing so only serves to perpetuate the confusion designers have regarding what they are, what they mean and how to use them. 300 isn't the standard either. It's just a good baseline / rule-of-thumb for certain hand-held print products that need to look decent. You don't want to insist on 300ppi for an image on a billboard, your print provider with either curse your name, or laugh at you or both. Pantone - it is "a" global color standard, not "the" global standard. They don't even hold a particularly tight tolerance for output within their own books. Your fandeck vs your print provider's fandeck could be as high as 4dE different for any given color. That's pretty significant. Pantone is often misused and misunderstood by designers, especially when they have no idea what the final output method will be. Spec'ing a pantone for any of the various flavors of offset print methods when the client isn't paying for spot color doesn't make a lot of sense. Similarly, spec'ing pantones for digital print - Sure, you can do so but at that point you aren't printing with pantone inks. The printer / output device might have your spec'd color in gamut, but probably not - because If you're spec'ing pantone, chances are you're looking for something outside of traditional process color gamuts. If you do this and expect reliable reproduction of the pantone color, the output is likely to disappoint.
Thanks so much for you comment! I agree with it all! I will say that after 19+ years in the industry, there were times were PPI and DPI weren't used in the right context, but everyone understood what the designer was talking about and it didn't impact the print. Pantone is the most common color standard that we have come across. I have definitely seen tolerance shift visually book to book and book to accurate mix. I wouldn't call if way off, but a visual difference. Not impacting most colors, but when you get into the colors that are 90+% transparent white, that is wild territory. Digital printing has come along way and especially when you are getting into extended gamut digital, you are getting pretty damn close to most spot colors. Highly recommend test prints or press checks for something like that though. Really great insight and comment! Thanks for checking out the video.
We recommend getting the Solid Guides for Coated and Uncoated as a starter package. Next on the list would be the CMYK Bridge books for coated and uncoated.
Hey Christy, thanks for your comment. I haven't heard of them getting rid of the Pantone to CMYK conversions or anything like that. I hope they don't as they are a crucial tool with print design. Let us know where and what you heard and we can check it out.
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Thanks for watching! Have you ever designed anything for print? What was it? Tell me in the comments.
yes, I have designed some few cools' things and print them, but the problem is the printed design always come out with different color then the one I design with (using CMYK, that what lead me to your channel because I really want to understand print design
Thanks for this! I'm a junior graphic designer that's assumed to know everything the higher up designers understand sooo you might have just saved my job! You're the best, so helpful!
So glad you enjoyed this!! Happy to help!
This was a wonderful brush up from college. I have been all digital for 4 years and didnt touch print design much. Now Im going into a new job thatll be way more print
Glad you enjoyed it! Lots of free training on print design around here. Some paid deeper dive options too.
There's something special about tangible print collateral. You guys are creating really engaging and insightful content!
Thanks Joe! And you nailed it. Something real special about creating print. Taking design from screen to something in your hand is awesome.
Most people dont know that there is a huge gap between graphic designers and printers. This channel is very informative and helpful, Thank you very much guys!
Thanks so much for your feedback Michael! There is a huge gap. Hoping to close it a bit!
How am I just seeing this video. Thank you
Algorithm needs to up its game! 😉 Glad it found it's way to you and that it was helpful!
Hey Dave. Amazing content, I follow every episode of your podcasts: print design and The quickie. Your way to explain things and interview people is really engaging. Keep on going man! Wonderful job for our design community. Thanks!
Hey Manilo, thanks so much for the kind words and for checking out this video. I enjoy it all so I'm happy to keep it moving!
I've typically only worked with beauty products and children's activity kits haha 2 random industries! This video was so helpful in understanding that more technical side of things. I usually just design, while the business owner chooses the paper weight and such.
Great comment Whitney. Glad that you found value in this.
That was a very educational and funny video. Thank you so much.
Thanks Khanhly! I try my best!
Well done Sir. This video is very informative. Thanks for sharing video like this. I'm waiting for the next new video.♥️🔥
More coming soon! Thanks for checking this out.
good video, very easy and clear. bonus he kinda looks like jack black and everyone loves jack black.
Thanks Bella World. I like Jack Black! Just watched his Tenacious D interview on Hot Ones. Cheers!
Ppi (pixels per inch) = res for web dpi (dots of ink per inch) = res for print
Thanks for your comment. Totally! Although working in the industry they have been tossed around a bit. DPI = ink on paper!
PPI can describe monitor resolution, but it also describes print resolution. In the print industry, PPI is more likely to be the correct way to speak of printed resolution of a digital image rather than DPI, because DPI is mostly a characteristic of digital printers (inkjets, etc).
Once you get into more conventional print methods like offset or screenprint, you start talking in LPI (lines per inch) instead of DPI for the output device, due to the use of halftoning to produce tints and gradations in color. PPI is still the more correct term to use for image resolution in this case as well.
At my shop, we regularly print 75-120PPI, but the printers actual DPI is between 600 and 1200DPI, because you want a lot of ink droplets for each pixel of an image.
Our typical PPI is so low because we're doing wide format digital inkjet for things like vehicle wraps, lots of 53ft trailers - 108in x 630in prints.
DPI and PPI are different things and thus should not be used interchangeably. Doing so only serves to perpetuate the confusion designers have regarding what they are, what they mean and how to use them. 300 isn't the standard either. It's just a good baseline / rule-of-thumb for certain hand-held print products that need to look decent. You don't want to insist on 300ppi for an image on a billboard, your print provider with either curse your name, or laugh at you or both.
Pantone - it is "a" global color standard, not "the" global standard. They don't even hold a particularly tight tolerance for output within their own books. Your fandeck vs your print provider's fandeck could be as high as 4dE different for any given color. That's pretty significant.
Pantone is often misused and misunderstood by designers, especially when they have no idea what the final output method will be. Spec'ing a pantone for any of the various flavors of offset print methods when the client isn't paying for spot color doesn't make a lot of sense.
Similarly, spec'ing pantones for digital print - Sure, you can do so but at that point you aren't printing with pantone inks. The printer / output device might have your spec'd color in gamut, but probably not - because If you're spec'ing pantone, chances are you're looking for something outside of traditional process color gamuts. If you do this and expect reliable reproduction of the pantone color, the output is likely to disappoint.
Thanks so much for you comment! I agree with it all! I will say that after 19+ years in the industry, there were times were PPI and DPI weren't used in the right context, but everyone understood what the designer was talking about and it didn't impact the print.
Pantone is the most common color standard that we have come across. I have definitely seen tolerance shift visually book to book and book to accurate mix. I wouldn't call if way off, but a visual difference. Not impacting most colors, but when you get into the colors that are 90+% transparent white, that is wild territory.
Digital printing has come along way and especially when you are getting into extended gamut digital, you are getting pretty damn close to most spot colors. Highly recommend test prints or press checks for something like that though.
Really great insight and comment! Thanks for checking out the video.
i need a cause on digital printing designs
Were can i do the classes
Hey! Thanks for your comment. You can check out www.printdesignacademy.com
Am in UAE were can i get a cause
Am in UAE
Did you say pantone "books"? What book should I get?
We recommend getting the Solid Guides for Coated and Uncoated as a starter package. Next on the list would be the CMYK Bridge books for coated and uncoated.
I thought I read something where Adobe was getting rid of the pantone conversion ability. ?
Hey Christy, thanks for your comment. I haven't heard of them getting rid of the Pantone to CMYK conversions or anything like that. I hope they don't as they are a crucial tool with print design. Let us know where and what you heard and we can check it out.
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