Just Received My AWOL LTV-3500 a week or so and boy oh boy me and my wife love it !! … also with free 120” screen. You will be amazed by this laser projector… still in the process of fine tuning everything but so far looks absolutely awesome … I feel I have a true theatre in my home …. Amazing !! Can’t wait to watch some 3D movies
So happy to see AWOL extend the "Free Screen" of choice with the purchase of the new LTV-3000 Pro or LTV-3500 Pro to make their UST Projector a complete Projection systems with no extra costs. We jumped in and purchased LTV-3000 Pro & LTV-3500 Pro with the 100" and 120" motorized floor rising screens so we can display & demonstrate AWOL's new Pro series in our 2 A/V Showrooms.
We are participating in AWOL's Holiday promotions with your choice of six 100" or 120" projection screens and 2 sets of 3D glasses and Roku's streaming device all included at no charge. Reference that you found us on Build Montage's Channel for a nice extra gift.
Originally had the Vava Chroma , swapped out for the AWOL 3500 and its the best decision I have ever made. Absolutely the 3500 smashes it... Anyone looking for a project - AWOL Vision is the best on the market for me. This review is great by the way
I was lucky enough to discover AWOL during their crowdfunding stage. I’ve owned an original version for a while. LOVE IT! And your review proves the product just keeps getting better. The upgrades address some of the concerns I had on my model. Looks like I’ll be upgrading soon! Thanks Tony!!
If UST's keep progressing at this rate, I could see them being the choice for many to replace their TV with a big screen. Judging by your footage, this PJ really does have impressive black levels. Great video Tony
The focus uniformity on this one was pretty crazy - best Ive ever seen in a UST - you can see in the focus footage that all 4 squares are in focus - usually I'll have either top or bottom in full focus, or a slightly unfocused image between all 4 squares to make it even. This one was spot on. Ricoh f2.0 lens.
@BuildMontage I would love to. Is there a good way to integrate one of these while using a horizontal center channel. I guess mount it to the ceiling and flip the screen upside down as well?
@@BuildMontageI have this PJ as well and can vouch for the uniformity. It’s stellar. I briefly owned a Formovie and returned it for the AWOL due to focus issues.
I was Lucky enough to get the 3500 pro with a 132” alr screen I even went the extra mile and bought the use slider machine. Setting it up on Tuesday. I own almost every 3d movie. I’m beyond excited. Been a long time coming
Great reviews Tony…👌thank you What’s your pick between AWOL 3500 and Ultemia Thor 60. My theatre room is a side extension of a large basement hallway with some ambient light during day time. I plan to use 120-130 ALR fixed screen. Thanks in advance
I thought I replied to this - sorry! - I think they are both quite similar with the AWOL being a little better all round, but the Thor T60 has great contrast/brightness levels.
Dude lose the background music it's way too loud and makes it distracting and hard to hear you. However I love your videos and enjoy your no B/S approach and honesty and you usually nail the products worth considering to upgrade to keep up the awesome content.
Подскажите какой экран для 3000 модели купить? celexon HomeCinema Frame 300 x 169 cm, 135" - Dynamic Slate ALR - 1099€ усиление 0,8 DELUXX Cinema Rahmenleinwand SlimFrame 298 x 168cm, 135" - DARKVISION - 1349€ усиление 0,8 DELUXX Cinema Rahmenleinwand SlimFrame 332 x 186cm, 150" - BRIGHTVISION 2049€ усиление 2 Или можно пока на белую стенку проецировать? Либо покрасить стенку.
Good review as always Tony. Crazy that to date only this UST and the Xgimi for long throw can do Dolby vision and all the big expensive projectors can’t. Vexing.
you should mention some broadcaster had dirty signals that caused some artifacts and AWOL VISION latest update fixed all of that ,, great job AWOL VISION!
Hi Tony great video! Do you happen to know if these units can be ceiling mounted in a light controlled room with a acoustically transparent screen like yours? Looking to plan our new home theater. Thanks
Hey there, yes I believe you can. I saw in the menu when I was setting it up that you can choose multiple layouts including ceiling mounted. The only thing is it would then determine where you can mount your screen, but I have seen people do UST ceiling mounts with great success.
The 2000000:1 is a "theoritical" contrast rating using the laser dimming, however, no DLP projector can get anywhere close to that even the Barco and Christie projectors using DLP can only get under 10000:1 contrast for FOFO. The AWOL rating is pretty spot on. my JVC NP5 has 26000:1 and that is super dark. Very difficult with DLP to get high levels of contrast like JVC or Epson.
Mad I’m just now seeing this. Seeing you review this product is awesome! I’ve been wondering if this looked good with an acoustical transparent screen. What screen did you use for this review?
Yes the review was done on an acoustic screen in a 100% light controlled room which is why it looked so good. If you have ambient light it would be better to use an ALR screen but I dont think they make woven ALR screens, only microperf.
Great videos, with having a projector in the middle close to the screen wont it but in the way of having a middle speaker? I am about to dice into this world. But looking into the AWOL retractable screen. But just not sure how i would do a middle speaker if the projector need to be in the center also. Plus can you tell me if you have a video on the speakers you have. Ty again for all the content.
That is the single most difficult compromise with this setup - unless you have the speakers behind the screen and then you will need to get a transparent screen. It can be done - I did it upstairs in my setup for a while, I had the speaker underneith and was far back enough that it didn't hamper the experience and still felt realistic.
Great review!!! which screen would you use with these awol 3000 pro, the one sold with the projector or nothing projectors black series (which has really good comments)?
Hey dude... did you just say, that you projected with this UST on a acoustic Screen? Usually that should not supposed to work... what type of screen do you have in your theater room? Thanks for the great content and kind regards from germany🤙
This has been puzzling me that people think you can't project onto an AT screen... I have been reviewing UST projectors for almost 4 years on many different types of screens. You can clearly see in my video where I'm recording, and it's on an AT screen - and the image is flawless. I think possible the confusion lies with people trying to project onto an acoustic screen if there is ambient light. I would imagine that could be a challenge but my room is 100% light controlled. The footage is clearly visible and you can check out my room tour on my channel - which shows I have Krix MX-10 speakers behind it :)
@@BuildMontage thank you very much for your detailed answer. yes, i am following your channel since a few weeks and i was very happy to see, that AT screen is no problem. that is a real game changer for me because i have my dali opticon mk2's placed inWall 😊
Great review! Is there any way of getting rid of black bars on this or any other UTS? Is there a zoom option? Hate seeing a 120 screen shrink down to a 98.
Thank you for this video. I would appreciate if you could please advise on which screen is suitable for light-controlled dark home theater room. I don't want to spend a crazy amount on the screen if I don't have to as I am not going to watch in a well-lit area. Any help will be appreciated.
hi, a few months ago you reviewed the formovie theater. In a dark environment between the formovie theater and the awol vision 3000 pro/3500 pro, which is better for watching 4k movies?
I think I said in this video it’s the best ust I’ve tested. Nothing wrong with Formovie. I’m sure you would be happy with it but this one so far is the best.
Here's the chart that gives you all of the measurements: valueelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/AWOL-LTV-3000-PRO-Throw-Distance-Chart-1536x630.png
I did mention it in the video - the only difference is 400 peak lumens of brightness more. I think the LTV 3500 would be the ultimate but the 3000 pro is definitely great in a dark room.
Yes, my screen is acoustically transparent which in my opinion is the best use case for a UST as a concept - sound behind the screen not blocking the speakers. My room is 100% light controlled so that helps when not using an ALR or CLR screen.
I have a light controlled room and has been designed to be a dedicated movie room, I am torn now between the formovie, aurora pro and now the ltv 3000, I have my own surround sound system so that’s not really an issue and 3d isn’t necessarily a must. Since it will be only be used in a light controlled room which would you recommend out of the 3?? I really like how bright and punchy the ltv 3000 looks! I just want the best Dolby vision experience and would love to hear your input thanks!
Hi Tony, I noticed you’re using a white screen. What gain is the screen? And I know you’ve mentioned to me before that white is always good in a controlled room
Yes as it’s a completely light controlled room and is acoustically transparent woven screen it’s a great experiment. The gain is reported at 1.0 but I think it’s .8-.9 still quite bright for woven. In an ambient light situation I would definitely go with a alr or clr screen.
I have my doubts about short throw projectors but this one does look good and I'm glad they included 3D. I'm one of the few weirdos that still love watching 3D movies at home. Lol!
You aint a weirdo for 3d... I have a lot of subscribers who are really into it - which is why I had to review it - I made the mistake of calling it a gimmick once and got a lot of hate for it haha! It's actually pretty good!
Hi, if you have a dedicated black room with a blackout on the window, is an ALR screen necessary and does it make for a better picture? I'm about to pull the trigger on a UST projector and think this is the one! Cheers, Jay
No it’s not necessary. A UST projector can benefit from it though if there is any light but in my room completely black there is no reason to do so. Check the links in description - there is a special bundle with a free screen!
Come accennato nel video, la differenza di prezzo è la luminosità aggiuntiva dell'LTV3500 pro, tuttavia in una stanza con luce controllata non credo che sarà un grosso problema.
I would say if you want a UST, dont hesitate and go for the LTV 3000 Pro - if you want a ceiling mounted projector go for the XGIMI. I am going to sell my LTV 3000 Pro very soon as I decided to stick with ceiling mount. I am actually making one last video with it as we speak which will give a bit more in depth as to why you may want a UST projector.
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? @BuildMontage
Yes thats correct. I use the HCFR program which is free, and I purchased the amzn.to/4amWBUo sensor and learned how to do it through TH-cam tutorials over the last 3 years.
I am considering upgrading with this projector. But i was wondering, does the proximity of my 2 SB16 subs near (2 ft) the projector affect the picture?
How would you place the centre speaker for this setup? Can you place it above and further back from it? I feel if I would place it beneath the ust the sound would be coming too much away from the image 😅
This is a common issue with UST projectors, I was using one in my upstairs room for a long time, and I had the speaker just under it and was sitting far enough back from it that it didn't sound like it was coming from underneith due to the dispersion of the speaker.
It's a DLP so it's not going to have the same level of blacks as either of those projectors, but it's closer to the 6050 if I was to pick one. It was VERY good though as you can see from my demos.
what do you mean you have a sensor for the RGYB colors... how do you use this sensor? and how do you then make adjustments to the projector based on the sensors readings ?
It’s a calibration sensor used to measure various aspects of the projectors attributes such as greyscale, and colours. That and I’ve also learned how to use it :) or u can pay a calibrator to come and do it.
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? thanks @@BuildMontage
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? @@BuildMontage
How do you activate dlp-link I bought the projector with the glasses and can't get them to work...There isn't anything in the manual that manual that addresses 3d
Nice review, thanks! Sounds like a really good UST projector. Sadly none available yet that has motorized zoom/image-shift with memory presets, so that you can change it to fill top and bottom for 16:9 to cinemascope 21:9 (and other weird formats like 1.85:1 ) on a cinemascope screen, at the touch of a button. So far, only normal throw projectors from Epson, Sony and JVC can do this. Unfortunately this limits options a lot for us that prefer an experience where a movie in 21:9 should be a grander experience than a show in 16:9. Also, due to height restrictions in my basement cinema, I could fit a much bigger/wider screen in 21:9 than 16:9, so that certainly contributed to the screen aspect ratio choice. Well anyway, maybe someday an UST can do it, but doubt it. 🤷♂️🙂
Yes the optical elements inside a UST projector do limit somewhat the ability to do lens shift and additional screen aspects due to the short throw nature. The lenses have to be aligned precisely. Maybe one day they will work out a way.
@@BuildMontagethey already have Tony. I found it. They have partnered with a company that provides a video box that connects 2 of these together for native anamorphic. So 2 X 16.9 images and the system cuts them perfectly for a 2:35.1 ratio. So money seems to be the only issue here. But if that's similar price to a nz8 what do you think is the better setup IF you wanted a 2:35.1 screen? I want to how the blacks actually compare to a JVC UNIT.
I haven’t tested that one so I couldn’t say. This is the best one I’ve tested so far overall but every projector I’ve tested has strengths and weaknesses.
Hi team, BM - bit confusing about atmos, paused the video displaying the back of the Unit showing clearly (Arc) not eArc ; however you mentioned twice that it is eArc enabled - can you please clarify? thank you for your time - it is valuable to me, regards a.g
Hi BM, thank you for the update and quick response… the reason I asked is because Arc is a compressed version for Atmos vs eARC, the experience & immersiveness is quite different…
This seems a popular question - I don't think it's a fair comparison, as it's a UST projector vs a long throw projector. The biggest disadvantage for the AWOL is the DLP light source. JVC DILA is pretty much the best in class for contrast all the way up to the pricepoint of an NZ8/9. It's unfair to compare it in that way. This projector has a lot going for it, the colours are spectacular, plus Dolby Vision, tri-colour - when I'm asked to compare projectors, it's always a general question - and comparisions require parameters and specific things to measure against. Price, brightness, contrast, light source, max lumens, colour of the projector, lens, throw ratio, throw distance, tone mapping, colour gammut - there are so many things to compare against. Yes - I have a JVC NP5 and it's black levels are incredible - but it's a different price point and has less brightness and also doesn't do Dolby Vision. So it all comes down to weighing up what you value most and going with that. Hope this long answer helped :)
I used the presets for everything in the video - my custom calibrations will not be of use to you as ambient light, screen material, screen size and the actual unit itself all differs and will not yeild the same results for you. I used Vivid mode if that helps :)
@@BuildMontage Okay, that makes lots of sense to me, same for me, I am just using their default setting of Dolby vision ( Vivid), but it sometimes depends on what video source you are looking at. Thanks for your reply! (th-cam.com/video/mBVHXSz1sAs/w-d-xo.html this is shot on my fujifilm sx-10 camera.
Lots of terms, is that the same as frame packing? I"m not an expert at 3D but it does top/bottom/side/side frame packing... Im about to show it in a new video very soon.
@BuildMontage No. Field sequential is an old system in which each frame of video contained left and right images. One eye would be be made from odd lines or field one and the other would be made from the even numbered lines, field 2. Quite often, one would buy a box which decoded the fields and synced a signal to 3D shutter glasses. It was a lousy system. One such box saw off an expensive monitor of mine because it sent a signal with too high a frequency! Some modern projectors still display it. I have had two Viewsonics which did. My Viewsonic X10 does.
Interesting - I loaded this up on my phone and the links all worked. I thought it might be a Starlink issue, though turns it is my browser. I am using Thorium as my browser, I swapped it back to chrome and it worked. Thanks for replying.@@BuildMontage
@@BuildMontage Because I use my LTC 3000 PRO in my home's basement, the 2.4G WiFi is a bit slow, so I switched from the fire stick to Google Chromecast, which has no issues with connecting to 5G WiFi. Additionally, I want to mention that I've been using this LASER TV for two weeks now. I think its biggest advantages are its color and focus, super sharp and crispy but the BLACK LEVEL is rather average. If the main character is wearing black clothes in a night scene, it tends to blend together, making it a bit uncomfortable to watch. （Maybe I'm just being too picky.）Even though I have Dolby Vision turned on, I hope they can improve this in the next software update.
Tony what size screen do you think is maximum you could push the 3000 in a light controlled media room before you compromise quality I know AWOL say screen up to 150" what size from your experience is the sweet spot thanks mate.
Btw, 24 frame was done ONLY to save money on expensive film. Before that, it was all 30 frame. It has been glorified as the film look for decades without anyone really knowing why it is what it is.
Yes this was a fortunate happenstance. 24 frames mimicks what the eye sees. When you wave your hands quickly in front of your eyes, the motion blur is very similar. So whatever the case, 24p has been known as the cinematic frame rate and that is why even in digital times films are still made this way.
Sooo Put of general curiosity how do the black levels and image compare to likes of sony and jvc traditional projectors? Currently i have a benq in my living room but I am building a mancave building woth light controlled room. Ill be looking for a new PJ in a year or so. The 3 laser system amd mote than 100% bt2020 spunds amazing
Benq are known for not having the best black levels in the market, but it's hard for me to quantify without measuring. I sometimes measure in my reviews, but this video I didn't want to use my sensor, I wanted to only use the preset modes. Either way, it's quite good and you wouldnt be disappointed if you have a light controlled room.
The disadvantages as far as I can see with screens that large is 1) cost - it will be a long time before a 120" screen becomes affordable & 2) Cinematic look to your movie - a TV just can't reproduce that cinematic look a projector and reflected light gives you no matter how perfect the black levels can be & 3) How do you get your speakers behind a 120" screen if you want a true to life audio experience? Just food for thought - I think we are spoilt for choice and innovations like this pave the way for greater things.
When watching 3D using the awol 3D glasses I was getting some weird overlapping. Sometimes it looked fine but other times it strained my eyes because the 3D was not right. Has anyone else experienced this. With this projector.
Nothing against you, I will never trust a review of a projector "sent" by the manufacturer. It is well known that manufacturers send cherry-picked units with massaged firmware and set up beyond what off the shelf units are. Only reviews of off the shelf units bought from a retailer are valid in my mind because of this. You did a good job, this is not a negative on you or your channel.
I’ve never heard of this happening in the four years I’ve been doing TH-cam. What are your sources or evidence that this happens. Genuinely curious to know. From all the anecdotal evidence my experience with this projector has been echoed by a lot of people / if you scroll through the comments you will see. I guess there is a possibility that you are correct, I’ve just never experienced this or ever heard of this happening before.
Mostly the management team of Projector Screen who stated this rumor because Formovie, who they are the only reseller of in the US, finished dead last in the most respected laser tv competition. Once again that’s how they roll
AWOL's LTV-3500 came in 2nd place in our UST Shootout Evaluation event. It beat 4 other very well respected high-end UST projectors and actually came in 1st place in 4 categories. Here's the results of our UST Shootout: valueelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/VE-2022-UST-Projector-Shootout-Results.png
LOL I went off the dimensions listed but must have gotten it wrong somehow - I'm a metric guy so I'm sorry if these are wrong!! I found the metric onesL 65 × 45 × 20 cm
Sorry to hear that.. I didn’t find it any more or less difficult than any other UST. I think it just takes a bit of practice. Start with all feet completely opened and then lower it down. People usually try and raise it which is much more difficult.
The projector shootout? I can't speak for that as I wasnt there, but I test everything in the same conditions. I have done the Formovie won that shootout - and I think this is better. It's my own opinion - you can watch the video review I did on the Formovie - its an awesome projector, but I think this one edges it out.
AWOL.wasn’t in the Shoot Out 2023, it’s run by the only US reseller of Formovie and the criteria doesn’t even measure HDR brightness. AWOL dis win the Hook Up shootout and Formovie came in last place by a long shot. Formovie has never won anything that was run by their exclusive us reseller.
@@jaychannel8558 oh right. I don’t do vs videos. I don’t compare products. I try to review the product in my hands to the best of my abilities and let people judge based on that.
@@SirChiefUKtypical moron response. AWOL has the best hardware and software in the category true Tri color laser, T1 Chip set, F2.0 Ricoh 9 point optical glass lens (largest in category) and up to 3500 ANSI Lumens. Also has HDR 10+, 3D, Dolby Vision. Turbo Game mode 8ms at 1080. EBL for laser dimming, PJLink for Control 4 capabilities and doesn’t take 45 minutes to warm up and doesn’t have a color wheel like Formovie. This is how the brand rose to the top of the category.
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Just Received My AWOL LTV-3500 a week or so and boy oh boy me and my wife love it !! … also with free 120” screen. You will be amazed by this laser projector… still in the process of fine tuning everything but so far looks absolutely awesome … I feel I have a true theatre in my home …. Amazing !! Can’t wait to watch some 3D movies
where did you buy it that they gave you a free screen?
lol same here the 3D is wayyyyyy better than IMAX . we definitely have AMC in our homes
You probably live in the US states where the free screen offer only applies…don’t think the free offer applies outside of the USA…🤔
So happy to see AWOL extend the "Free Screen" of choice with the purchase of the new LTV-3000 Pro or LTV-3500 Pro to make their UST Projector a complete Projection systems with no extra costs. We jumped in and purchased LTV-3000 Pro & LTV-3500 Pro with the 100" and 120" motorized floor rising screens so we can display & demonstrate AWOL's new Pro series in our 2 A/V Showrooms.
We are participating in AWOL's Holiday promotions with your choice of six 100" or 120" projection screens and 2 sets of 3D glasses and Roku's streaming device all included at no charge. Reference that you found us on Build Montage's Channel for a nice extra gift.
How much did you pay for the LTV-3000 PRO with 120" cinematic screen
Originally had the Vava Chroma , swapped out for the AWOL 3500 and its the best decision I have ever made. Absolutely the 3500 smashes it... Anyone looking for a project - AWOL Vision is the best on the market for me.
This review is great by the way
Thanks for watching.
Coming from a Vava Chroma myself….would you recommend the AWOL 3000 version? I was looking at staying around the 3k range.
100%, i've never looked back..@@dclassics831
I was lucky enough to discover AWOL during their crowdfunding stage. I’ve owned an original version for a while. LOVE IT! And your review proves the product just keeps getting better. The upgrades address some of the concerns I had on my model. Looks like I’ll be upgrading soon! Thanks Tony!!
My first experience and I was blown away.
@@BuildMontage Any chance that you will be reviewing its competitor, the Nexigo Aurora Pro 4k.
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If UST's keep progressing at this rate, I could see them being the choice for many to replace their TV with a big screen. Judging by your footage, this PJ really does have impressive black levels. Great video Tony
Ust have focus/sharpness issues around the edges because of the unavoidable short throw. Cant beat 8k tv
Yes, unedited footage. You can't fake contrast and detail. I reckon you should try get one in for a test in your room!
The focus uniformity on this one was pretty crazy - best Ive ever seen in a UST - you can see in the focus footage that all 4 squares are in focus - usually I'll have either top or bottom in full focus, or a slightly unfocused image between all 4 squares to make it even. This one was spot on. Ricoh f2.0 lens.
@BuildMontage I would love to. Is there a good way to integrate one of these while using a horizontal center channel. I guess mount it to the ceiling and flip the screen upside down as well?
@@BuildMontageI have this PJ as well and can vouch for the uniformity. It’s stellar. I briefly owned a Formovie and returned it for the AWOL due to focus issues.
I was Lucky enough to get the 3500 pro with a 132” alr screen I even went the extra mile and bought the use slider machine. Setting it up on Tuesday. I own almost every 3d movie. I’m beyond excited. Been a long time coming
Awesome! Enjoy!
I have the 3000 Pro and it is everything this guy says!!
Is the 3500 pro just brighter? No other differences?
@Hartmaniac yes that is correct. I got that directly from Awol
@@Hartmaniac Correct!
Great reviews Tony…👌thank you
What’s your pick between AWOL 3500 and Ultemia Thor 60. My theatre room is a side extension of a large basement hallway with some ambient light during day time. I plan to use 120-130 ALR fixed screen. Thanks in advance
I thought I replied to this - sorry! - I think they are both quite similar with the AWOL being a little better all round, but the Thor T60 has great contrast/brightness levels.
Nice review! LTV-3000 Pro on my list right now.
Hope you enjoy it!
Dude lose the background music it's way too loud and makes it distracting and hard to hear you. However I love your videos and enjoy your no B/S approach and honesty and you usually nail the products worth considering to upgrade to keep up the awesome content.
Подскажите какой экран для 3000 модели купить?
celexon HomeCinema Frame 300 x 169 cm, 135" - Dynamic Slate ALR - 1099€ усиление 0,8
DELUXX Cinema Rahmenleinwand SlimFrame 298 x 168cm, 135" - DARKVISION - 1349€ усиление 0,8
DELUXX Cinema Rahmenleinwand SlimFrame 332 x 186cm, 150" - BRIGHTVISION 2049€ усиление 2
Или можно пока на белую стенку проецировать? Либо покрасить стенку.
Good review as always Tony. Crazy that to date only this UST and the Xgimi for long throw can do Dolby vision and all the big expensive projectors can’t. Vexing.
There are actually a few UST projectors that do Dolby Vision, however this one has a great rendition in the presets with Vivid mode - loved it!
@@BuildMontage ahhhh. Got it.
you should mention some broadcaster had dirty signals that caused some artifacts and AWOL VISION latest update fixed all of that ,, great job AWOL VISION!
Hi Tony great video! Do you happen to know if these units can be ceiling mounted in a light controlled room with a acoustically transparent screen like yours? Looking to plan our new home theater. Thanks
Hey there, yes I believe you can. I saw in the menu when I was setting it up that you can choose multiple layouts including ceiling mounted. The only thing is it would then determine where you can mount your screen, but I have seen people do UST ceiling mounts with great success.
I see that contrast for AWOL is 3500:1 but for Hisense L9h is 2000000:1. Just wondering why such a big difference and what is the real impact of it?
The 2000000:1 is a "theoritical" contrast rating using the laser dimming, however, no DLP projector can get anywhere close to that even the Barco and Christie projectors using DLP can only get under 10000:1 contrast for FOFO. The AWOL rating is pretty spot on. my JVC NP5 has 26000:1 and that is super dark. Very difficult with DLP to get high levels of contrast like JVC or Epson.
Mad I’m just now seeing this. Seeing you review this product is awesome! I’ve been wondering if this looked good with an acoustical transparent screen. What screen did you use for this review?
Yes the review was done on an acoustic screen in a 100% light controlled room which is why it looked so good. If you have ambient light it would be better to use an ALR screen but I dont think they make woven ALR screens, only microperf.
AWOL keeps raising the bar for UST projectors
I agree that this is an unbelievable unit!
Great videos, with having a projector in the middle close to the screen wont it but in the way of having a middle speaker? I am about to dice into this world. But looking into the AWOL retractable screen. But just not sure how i would do a middle speaker if the projector need to be in the center also. Plus can you tell me if you have a video on the speakers you have. Ty again for all the content.
That is the single most difficult compromise with this setup - unless you have the speakers behind the screen and then you will need to get a transparent screen. It can be done - I did it upstairs in my setup for a while, I had the speaker underneith and was far back enough that it didn't hamper the experience and still felt realistic.
Great review!!! which screen would you use with these awol 3000 pro, the one sold with the projector or nothing projectors black series (which has really good comments)?
I would pair it with the AWOL screen for sure! Especially as they have a special deal for it as well!
Hey dude... did you just say, that you projected with this UST on a acoustic Screen? Usually that should not supposed to work... what type of screen do you have in your theater room? Thanks for the great content and kind regards from germany🤙
This has been puzzling me that people think you can't project onto an AT screen... I have been reviewing UST projectors for almost 4 years on many different types of screens. You can clearly see in my video where I'm recording, and it's on an AT screen - and the image is flawless. I think possible the confusion lies with people trying to project onto an acoustic screen if there is ambient light. I would imagine that could be a challenge but my room is 100% light controlled. The footage is clearly visible and you can check out my room tour on my channel - which shows I have Krix MX-10 speakers behind it :)
@@BuildMontage thank you very much for your detailed answer. yes, i am following your channel since a few weeks and i was very happy to see, that AT screen is no problem. that is a real game changer for me because i have my dali opticon mk2's placed inWall 😊
Great review! Is there any way of getting rid of black bars on this or any other UTS? Is there a zoom option? Hate seeing a 120 screen shrink down to a 98.
Unfortunately not. You cant get scope aspect on this one.
Thank you for this video. I would appreciate if you could please advise on which screen is suitable for light-controlled dark home theater room. I don't want to spend a crazy amount on the screen if I don't have to as I am not going to watch in a well-lit area. Any help will be appreciated.
I have a few screen videos for UST projectors if you go into the playlist section of my channel :)
You didn’t mention whether it features HLG like it’s bigger brother does …?
hi, a few months ago you reviewed the formovie theater. In a dark environment between the formovie theater and the awol vision 3000 pro/3500 pro, which is better for watching 4k movies?
I think I said in this video it’s the best ust I’ve tested. Nothing wrong with Formovie. I’m sure you would be happy with it but this one so far is the best.
Can you elaborate and explain the price of consumables and maintenance price after laser life is over ..Love from INDIA ❤
Anyone know the projection distance for a 100' UST screen ? It always annoys me that no reviewer ever mentions it.
Here's the chart that gives you all of the measurements:
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@@valueelectronics9390 Thank you.
What are the diferences between 3000 and 3500? And…this one or Formovie Teather?Which is better for a dark room? Thank you!!!
I did mention it in the video - the only difference is 400 peak lumens of brightness more. I think the LTV 3500 would be the ultimate but the 3000 pro is definitely great in a dark room.
So this works fine with an Acoustically Transparent Screen? That’s interesting, I’ll definitely look into it.
Yes, my screen is acoustically transparent which in my opinion is the best use case for a UST as a concept - sound behind the screen not blocking the speakers. My room is 100% light controlled so that helps when not using an ALR or CLR screen.
@@BuildMontage Thanks. I have a light controlled room dedicated HT as well. So, in this case, would you choose it over the Epson LS11000?
I have a light controlled room and has been designed to be a dedicated movie room, I am torn now between the formovie, aurora pro and now the ltv 3000, I have my own surround sound system so that’s not really an issue and 3d isn’t necessarily a must. Since it will be only be used in a light controlled room which would you recommend out of the 3?? I really like how bright and punchy the ltv 3000 looks! I just want the best Dolby vision experience and would love to hear your input thanks!
I'd definitely go with the LTV 3000 Pro.
Hi Tony, I noticed you’re using a white screen. What gain is the screen? And I know you’ve mentioned to me before that white is always good in a controlled room
Yes as it’s a completely light controlled room and is acoustically transparent woven screen it’s a great experiment. The gain is reported at 1.0 but I think it’s .8-.9 still quite bright for woven. In an ambient light situation I would definitely go with a alr or clr screen.
Tony!!! The Beard with another excellent review on a stellar looking short throw projector.
Thanks mate! :)
B Roll of your home theater is so sick....
I have my doubts about short throw projectors but this one does look good and I'm glad they included 3D. I'm one of the few weirdos that still love watching 3D movies at home. Lol!
You aint a weirdo for 3d... I have a lot of subscribers who are really into it - which is why I had to review it - I made the mistake of calling it a gimmick once and got a lot of hate for it haha! It's actually pretty good!
3D is the best way to watch, most movies. Wish they would make more movies available in 3D blu-ray.
Hi, if you have a dedicated black room with a blackout on the window, is an ALR screen necessary and does it make for a better picture? I'm about to pull the trigger on a UST projector and think this is the one! Cheers, Jay
No it’s not necessary. A UST projector can benefit from it though if there is any light but in my room completely black there is no reason to do so. Check the links in description - there is a special bundle with a free screen!
I have the regular 2500 Awol Vision. For my dedicated movie cinema. I love it.
This is my first experience and it blew me away.
Che differenza abbiamo tra il 3000 pro e il 3500? La differenza di prezzo vale la pena? Ottimo video!
Come accennato nel video, la differenza di prezzo è la luminosità aggiuntiva dell'LTV3500 pro, tuttavia in una stanza con luce controllata non credo che sarà un grosso problema.
@@BuildMontage grazie per la risposta ! Ho preso il 3000 pro 😃
Have you tried this on a bigger screen? If not, do you think picture quality will suffer with a 135inch or 150inch screen. Thanks mate.
No I havent but I have seen it on bigger screens and it's pretty incredible for sure!
LTV-3000 or horizon ultra? Based on Dolby vision/picture quality and eArc?
I would say if you want a UST, dont hesitate and go for the LTV 3000 Pro - if you want a ceiling mounted projector go for the XGIMI. I am going to sell my LTV 3000 Pro very soon as I decided to stick with ceiling mount. I am actually making one last video with it as we speak which will give a bit more in depth as to why you may want a UST projector.
How would you compare this to your NP5? I'd love to see a review on the NP5 some day.
Different use cases. I am definitely going to do a full review on the Np5 💯
@@BuildMontage Looking forward to it mate!
Compare to formovie theater,which one would you recommend?
Depends what your criteria are. As mentioned in the video this is the best one I've ever reviewed so you could take that as an endorsement.
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? @BuildMontage
Yes thats correct. I use the HCFR program which is free, and I purchased the amzn.to/4amWBUo sensor and learned how to do it through TH-cam tutorials over the last 3 years.
I am considering upgrading with this projector. But i was wondering, does the proximity of my 2 SB16 subs near (2 ft) the projector affect the picture?
I highly doubt it. Unless you’re resting the projector on top of a subwoofer
How would you place the centre speaker for this setup? Can you place it above and further back from it?
I feel if I would place it beneath the ust the sound would be coming too much away from the image 😅
This is a common issue with UST projectors, I was using one in my upstairs room for a long time, and I had the speaker just under it and was sitting far enough back from it that it didn't sound like it was coming from underneith due to the dispersion of the speaker.
Tony..the black levels are we talking nx5 levels or epson 6050?
It's a DLP so it's not going to have the same level of blacks as either of those projectors, but it's closer to the 6050 if I was to pick one. It was VERY good though as you can see from my demos.
I see this projector supports 24fps, how do you take advantage of that? Does the Firestick support it? Does the Roku Ultra support it?
Yes they all do.
Can I use any pre-programmed 4k firestick or do I have to use the one it comes with?
Yes you can!
what do you mean you have a sensor for the RGYB colors... how do you use this sensor? and how do you then make adjustments to the projector based on the sensors readings ?
It’s a calibration sensor used to measure various aspects of the projectors attributes such as greyscale, and colours. That and I’ve also learned how to use it :) or u can pay a calibrator to come and do it.
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? thanks
@@BuildMontage
so do you adjust the settings as you go using the sensor, like adjust the green based on the sensors readings and then go to blue and so on? or do you need a laptop....what brand of sensor is it ? @@BuildMontage
I'm trying to decide between this or the Hisense L9H for my living room.
Please help!!!
This one is better in my opinion. But that’s subjective. Just my opinion.
How do you activate dlp-link I bought the projector with the glasses and can't get them to work...There isn't anything in the manual that manual that addresses 3d
You just need to turn them on after charging them up with the USB.
How would you compare the AWOL Vision LTV 3000 Pro to the Formovie Theater?
I got the Formovie but for me it´s not bright enough....
What for screen you using?
@@mariod8405 100" NP Black Serie ARL 0,6 Gain
I think I answered that in my opening comments ;)
@@BuildMontage that question was to @Wimpelmann!
@@mariod8405 I wasn’t answering you, I was answering the question posted on my video.
Nice review, thanks! Sounds like a really good UST projector. Sadly none available yet that has motorized zoom/image-shift with memory presets, so that you can change it to fill top and bottom for 16:9 to cinemascope 21:9 (and other weird formats like 1.85:1 ) on a cinemascope screen, at the touch of a button.
So far, only normal throw projectors from Epson, Sony and JVC can do this. Unfortunately this limits options a lot for us that prefer an experience where a movie in 21:9 should be a grander experience than a show in 16:9. Also, due to height restrictions in my basement cinema, I could fit a much bigger/wider screen in 21:9 than 16:9, so that certainly contributed to the screen aspect ratio choice. Well anyway, maybe someday an UST can do it, but doubt it. 🤷♂️🙂
Yes the optical elements inside a UST projector do limit somewhat the ability to do lens shift and additional screen aspects due to the short throw nature. The lenses have to be aligned precisely. Maybe one day they will work out a way.
@@BuildMontagethey already have Tony. I found it. They have partnered with a company that provides a video box that connects 2 of these together for native anamorphic. So 2 X 16.9 images and the system cuts them perfectly for a 2:35.1 ratio. So money seems to be the only issue here. But if that's similar price to a nz8 what do you think is the better setup IF you wanted a 2:35.1 screen? I want to how the blacks actually compare to a JVC UNIT.
all formats are available with latest update including 32-9!
Whats your thought between this and the latest nexigo...
I haven’t tested that one so I couldn’t say. This is the best one I’ve tested so far overall but every projector I’ve tested has strengths and weaknesses.
Wich you choose for a light room, 3000 or 3500?
3500
Hi team, BM - bit confusing about atmos, paused the video displaying the back of the Unit showing clearly (Arc) not eArc ; however you mentioned twice that it is eArc enabled - can you please clarify? thank you for your time - it is valuable to me, regards a.g
Hi there - what specifically do you want to know about Atmos? And yes regardless that it says ARC, all the new AWOL models all support EARC.
Hi BM, thank you for the update and quick response… the reason I asked is because Arc is a compressed version for Atmos vs eARC, the experience & immersiveness is quite different…
… weird, nevertheless - why would a manufacturer state (ARC) as a port on the back if it actually supports eARC
@@ag121171 I don’t know I’m sorry… all I know is that I have confirmed that it’s earc for u :)
How close does the AWOL come to JVC projectors (np5,nx5,nx7) or Sony projectors?
This seems a popular question - I don't think it's a fair comparison, as it's a UST projector vs a long throw projector. The biggest disadvantage for the AWOL is the DLP light source. JVC DILA is pretty much the best in class for contrast all the way up to the pricepoint of an NZ8/9. It's unfair to compare it in that way. This projector has a lot going for it, the colours are spectacular, plus Dolby Vision, tri-colour - when I'm asked to compare projectors, it's always a general question - and comparisions require parameters and specific things to measure against. Price, brightness, contrast, light source, max lumens, colour of the projector, lens, throw ratio, throw distance, tone mapping, colour gammut - there are so many things to compare against. Yes - I have a JVC NP5 and it's black levels are incredible - but it's a different price point and has less brightness and also doesn't do Dolby Vision. So it all comes down to weighing up what you value most and going with that. Hope this long answer helped :)
@@BuildMontage it does, thanks a ton for your thorough response.
How does this projector perform in 4K 60Hz??? or LTV-3500
Performs fine.
may I ask your color settings? looks good!about 11:09
I used the presets for everything in the video - my custom calibrations will not be of use to you as ambient light, screen material, screen size and the actual unit itself all differs and will not yeild the same results for you. I used Vivid mode if that helps :)
@@BuildMontage Okay, that makes lots of sense to me, same for me, I am just using their default setting of Dolby vision ( Vivid), but it sometimes depends on what video source you are looking at. Thanks for your reply! (th-cam.com/video/mBVHXSz1sAs/w-d-xo.html this is shot on my fujifilm sx-10 camera.
I take it then that field sequential 3D is not supported?
Lots of terms, is that the same as frame packing? I"m not an expert at 3D but it does top/bottom/side/side frame packing... Im about to show it in a new video very soon.
@BuildMontage
No. Field sequential is an old system in which each frame of video contained left and right images. One eye would be be made from odd lines or field one and the other would be made from the even numbered lines, field 2. Quite often, one would buy a box which decoded the fields and synced a signal to 3D shutter glasses. It was a lousy system. One such box saw off an expensive monitor of mine because it sent a signal with too high a frequency!
Some modern projectors still display it. I have had two Viewsonics which did. My Viewsonic X10 does.
Awol 3000 or px3 pro which is better please
Im about to review the LTV 3500 Pro! Stay tuned :)
Them eye @ 8:42...I gotta make a gif of this....
Oh dear
The Christie Griffyn 4K50-RGB is probably the best projector, but it's nearly $150,000 and weighs over 200 pounds with the high contrast lens.
Funny you should mention that. I’m filming a room tour today that has one!
Fantastic review, subb'ed
Much appreciated!
None of your links are working for me - says 'file may have been moved or edited'
I just tested them all and they are all working fine for me... which one specifically?
Interesting - I loaded this up on my phone and the links all worked. I thought it might be a Starlink issue, though turns it is my browser. I am using Thorium as my browser, I swapped it back to chrome and it worked. Thanks for replying.@@BuildMontage
the fire stick 4K has some serious issue connecting wifi 5g
I only ever use 2.4. I find a lot of devices don’t like 5g
@@BuildMontage Because I use my LTC 3000 PRO in my home's basement, the 2.4G WiFi is a bit slow, so I switched from the fire stick to Google Chromecast, which has no issues with connecting to 5G WiFi. Additionally, I want to mention that I've been using this LASER TV for two weeks now. I think its biggest advantages are its color and focus, super sharp and crispy but the BLACK LEVEL is rather average. If the main character is wearing black clothes in a night scene, it tends to blend together, making it a bit uncomfortable to watch. （Maybe I'm just being too picky.）Even though I have Dolby Vision turned on, I hope they can improve this in the next software update.
Wait...HDFury for your review on this UST? Dedication, mate!
What do you mean?
@@BuildMontage @11:11...I see HDF UI
3000 picture ansilumens? or is it laser lumens?
ANSI
Hey, what‘s about 50 Hz for PAL TV program?
it has variable refresh rate, so you can do 24, 50 or 60 I believe.. I havent tested 50 but I know you can change it to match your content.
Tony what size screen do you think is maximum you could push the 3000 in a light controlled media room before you compromise quality I know AWOL say screen up to 150" what size from your experience is the sweet spot thanks mate.
@Cybertron-cs7sk personally 120” with sharp in focus corners.
@BuildMontage very grateful I trust your opinion Tony keep up the great channel your hard work is truly appreciated 👏.
For any other products you review, can you please specify the hdmi port spec e.g., whether 2.0 or 2.1 etc? Cheers
Sure - I usually.
Have you seen visible laser speckle?
None at all. Laser speckle is caused more by the screen than the projector. And on my woven acoustic screen there is zero
@@BuildMontage thanks
Awsome and detailed video
Thanks for watching :)
Btw, 24 frame was done ONLY to save money on expensive film. Before that, it was all 30 frame. It has been glorified as the film look for decades without anyone really knowing why it is what it is.
Yes this was a fortunate happenstance. 24 frames mimicks what the eye sees. When you wave your hands quickly in front of your eyes, the motion blur is very similar. So whatever the case, 24p has been known as the cinematic frame rate and that is why even in digital times films are still made this way.
Sooo
Put of general curiosity how do the black levels and image compare to likes of sony and jvc traditional projectors? Currently i have a benq in my living room but I am building a mancave building woth light controlled room. Ill be looking for a new PJ in a year or so.
The 3 laser system amd mote than 100% bt2020 spunds amazing
Benq are known for not having the best black levels in the market, but it's hard for me to quantify without measuring. I sometimes measure in my reviews, but this video I didn't want to use my sensor, I wanted to only use the preset modes. Either way, it's quite good and you wouldnt be disappointed if you have a light controlled room.
@@BuildMontagethanks! 😊
Wnite sneakers @ 1:11 are nice!
Lol my daughter made my buy Nike 270s LOL! I didn't even know they are a shoe for the youth... but I kept them on LOL!
@@BuildMontage they look good!
There's 100 inch tvs for less than 3 grand, once they hit 120 inch anywhere near that price I don't see the benefit to ust
The disadvantages as far as I can see with screens that large is 1) cost - it will be a long time before a 120" screen becomes affordable & 2) Cinematic look to your movie - a TV just can't reproduce that cinematic look a projector and reflected light gives you no matter how perfect the black levels can be & 3) How do you get your speakers behind a 120" screen if you want a true to life audio experience? Just food for thought - I think we are spoilt for choice and innovations like this pave the way for greater things.
@@BuildMontage I still can't get my speakers behind my ust, they just feel like a stop gap until TVs catch up.
can you move a 100 inch or 120-inch TV to your apartment or basement?
@@shijersey8336 yes
When watching 3D using the awol 3D glasses I was getting some weird overlapping. Sometimes it looked fine but other times it strained my eyes because the 3D was not right. Has anyone else experienced this. With this projector.
I didnt notice that im sorry.
Nothing against you, I will never trust a review of a projector "sent" by the manufacturer. It is well known that manufacturers send cherry-picked units with massaged firmware and set up beyond what off the shelf units are. Only reviews of off the shelf units bought from a retailer are valid in my mind because of this. You did a good job, this is not a negative on you or your channel.
I’ve never heard of this happening in the four years I’ve been doing TH-cam. What are your sources or evidence that this happens. Genuinely curious to know. From all the anecdotal evidence my experience with this projector has been echoed by a lot of people / if you scroll through the comments you will see. I guess there is a possibility that you are correct, I’ve just never experienced this or ever heard of this happening before.
He’s a well know Formovie Schil trying to discredit AWOL and all the hard work you’ve done. That is how Formovie rolls.
Some people see conspiracies everywhere they look. Sad.
Mostly the management team of Projector Screen who stated this rumor because Formovie, who they are the only reseller of in the US, finished dead last in the most respected laser tv competition. Once again that’s how they roll
AWOL's LTV-3500 came in 2nd place in our UST Shootout Evaluation event. It beat 4 other very well respected high-end UST projectors and actually came in 1st place in 4 categories. Here's the results of our UST Shootout: valueelectronics.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/VE-2022-UST-Projector-Shootout-Results.png
The design of this UST looks awesome for sure
24 fps with no motion smoothing...yes! I know you're a fan of motion smoothing (to a minor extent)
I turn it off now... I actually enjoy it in native 24p. It makes a huge difference I won't lie.
@@BuildMontage yesssss.....so proud of you :)
3.9” high and 5.7” deep? I don’t think so. Excellent review though. Thanks!
LOL I went off the dimensions listed but must have gotten it wrong somehow - I'm a metric guy so I'm sorry if these are wrong!! I found the metric onesL 65 × 45 × 20 cm
This projector is damn near impossible to get lined up correctly on a fixed screen and it's absolutely irritating.
Sorry to hear that.. I didn’t find it any more or less difficult than any other UST. I think it just takes a bit of practice. Start with all feet completely opened and then lower it down. People usually try and raise it which is much more difficult.
Even Selling my house won't pay for it 😢
There's lots of cheaper alternatives if you are after a new UST projector. I have a playlist for some other ones on my channel!
Such a pitty that there is not hdmi 2.1
Yeah that's a deal breaker between this and the Nexi Aurora Pro which is 2.1...
@@drewsmith1566 yes, but the Aurora dont have a 4k 120 hrz output. Only input. So useless
That thing lost the competition…. 🤣
The projector shootout? I can't speak for that as I wasnt there, but I test everything in the same conditions. I have done the Formovie won that shootout - and I think this is better. It's my own opinion - you can watch the video review I did on the Formovie - its an awesome projector, but I think this one edges it out.
AWOL.wasn’t in the Shoot Out 2023, it’s run by the only US reseller of Formovie and the criteria doesn’t even measure HDR brightness. AWOL dis win the Hook Up shootout and Formovie came in last place by a long shot. Formovie has never won anything that was run by their exclusive us reseller.
@@jaychannel8558 oh right. I don’t do vs videos. I don’t compare products. I try to review the product in my hands to the best of my abilities and let people judge based on that.
@@jaychannel8558 AWOL apart from looking ugly, poor materials and c’mon, HDMI port 2.0??? Really? I’m not surprised that it’s nit even on the line up…
@@SirChiefUKtypical moron response. AWOL has the best hardware and software in the category true Tri color laser, T1 Chip set, F2.0 Ricoh 9 point optical glass lens (largest in category) and up to 3500 ANSI Lumens. Also has HDR 10+, 3D, Dolby Vision. Turbo Game mode 8ms at 1080. EBL for laser dimming, PJLink for Control 4 capabilities and doesn’t take 45 minutes to warm up and doesn’t have a color wheel like Formovie. This is how the brand rose to the top of the category.