I really liked the fact that Mysterio's team has person whose job is literaly to come up with pseudo science and ridicilous backstories. Stories that, I quote Mysterio here "People for some reason absolutely believe"
Honestly, this villain got super dark, super fast. Manipulating illusions so that someone else can't tell if what's real or not is a fucking intense power. Kinda funny how for years I thought Mysterio was a no-go for the movies. It must've been the fishbowl helmet. They really did a great job here.
EloquentTiger they kinda used his ridiculous helmet as an advantage in here. It helped to obscure him for the illusion and stood out enough for you to believe that he is some alien hero fighting to save the earth. It’s cartoony and weird, and that was the goal here. Clever
@@frankwest5388 Exactly. I like how they lampshade how Mysterio's fake backstory is ridiculous but simultaneously explains his costume design to the world in and out of the movie
His illusions are like a more emotionally complex version of Wanda’s vision manipulation. Not only are your worst nightmares happening in your head, but you have to actually see them consciously.
what sold that scene for me was Peter's next line, "You can't fool me anymore." It's just the way Tom said it. It wasn't like a bond line. It wasn't matter of factly. It's said with a mix of confidence and sorrow. It's "I beat you, but I really wanted you to not be the guy I had to beat."
I loved that moment too. Spider-Man characteristically hates fighting his villains, as they are often people he either knows personally or wants to help. Peter's sorrow at being betrayed really underscored that central aspect of his character to always want to see the best in people, and being hurt when he can't help someone come back from the dark side. Beck felt like the next Tony Stark to him, and with Tony gone I think Peter unintentionally tried to fill that void with this charming, good natured guy he's just met because he was desperate to have Tony back in his life. That left Beck open to play him like a fiddle, and manipulate his emotions, which in turn taught Peter an important lesson about loss and trust.
@@Bad_At_Parties Mysterio didn't manipulate Peter at all. He just presented himself as an Iron Man level superhero. Peter didn't care about Edith and Tony's legacy. The glasses were lost on the dirty bar floor. Mysterio just asked Peter what he wanted. And he gave up the keys of the kingdom with super quickness. He did all the mental gymnastics required, offered the glasses as his own idea and with his own free will, then scurried off care free to be with MJ. Mysterio only conned him into thinking he was the real deal. Peter just was naturally inclined to dump his responsibility on _anyone_ who fit the description. Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel... Mysterio. This Spider-Man was super-selfish and irresponsible.
the first illusion fight with mysterio may be my favorite part of the whole movie. it jsut shows how far we have come in terms of cgi. it still does not beat thanos throwing asteroids at tony on titan but it's up there.
Number One is Spider-Man 2 for being a fun action flick with good action and moments Number Two is Spider-Verse for bringing something fresh to both animation and Spidey And Three is Far From Home for also being a fun action flick with some great moments Not a big fan of Raimi’s Spidey 1
One thing I love about the MCU Spider-Man is what they've done with characters that are usually cheesy like Vulture and Mysterio, bringing them to the big screen for the first time and in an amazing way
@@alienklein lmao I'm not making fun of him for knowing about the hyphen. Almost everyone knows about it. I'm making fun of him for making a big deal out of it. Knowing about the hyphen in Spider-Man's name doesn't make you the smartest man in the room.
I love how all the people who say the suit does all the work ignore the fact that peter used the homemade suit for the final act of homecoming to show he was more than the suit
crunchy, apparently and also, Peter did not use EDITH at all during the final battle and sure he built his suit using Tony’s tech but honestly, if he didn’t, he would’ve been killed. Peter had no help from Tony at all and EDITH was no help other than to stop the drones, which was for 1 second
Yeah, and in Far From Home Spider-Man beat Mysterio by himself with his skills and ingenuity. The most Stark Tech used in the film are the Taser Webs and that's it, after his webs run out it's Peter Parker and his abilities who beat Mysterio. And oh yeah, Raimi Tards (I prefer the name Tobey Tards because alliteration) are easily the most toxic part of Spider-Man or even Superhero community.
Thing is, the suit barely even does anything apart from have fancy stuff that peter doesn’t quite know how to use. And even if he does rely on tech, he is the one controlling it, he just has to use it right. People act like he’s invincible
I loved the second half of Far From Home. Mysterio was the highlight of the movie. Apparently the next movie will be very different to all other Spidey films, looking forward to that!
In my opinion, I loved the first half because it was fun. Sure, some of the humour didn’t land, but I liked it. However, it pails in comparison to the second half.
Daredevil becomes Peter’s lawyer and helps him clear his name. Sets daredevil up for a movie in the MCU or gets connected to the Netflix series somehow.
@@julio_crack No a Skrull makes its self to look like Peter they don't have Spider-man's powers. It is easier for them to act like Peter Parker than Spidey to make it believable.
One thing people have to remember is yeah shes MJ but she isn't Mary jane she's a completely different character so people have no right to be upset since they expect her to be Mary jane but she isnt
Cool edgy MJ didn't grab me (good or bad, just meh) until that scene on the bridge. She was so adorably awkward and dorky, you really got to see behind the facade. It's different, and that's okay! As much as I love the Raimi movies, personally I found the Raimi MJ a bit of a wet blanket, damsel in distress boring and stereotypical.
If u anything about spiderman other than movies..u would have known these two mjs are different characters 🤦 in MCU it's Michelle. So it's not even worth comparing
@Marvelous Maker I mean, he already knew that. MJ in the MCU is basically Michelle yes but we don’t even know if we’ll get the Redheaded MJ(something I wouldn’t mind either way) that we mainly know. I don’t get your comment, the guy literally only said he likes MCU MJ more(I believe, correct me if I’m assuming) and that’s it.
@@tanishqkadam3475 Literally everyone knows Michelle is nowhere near MJ regarding character traits. Hell, even if you only know the movies, it's still pretty easy to see the differences between Raimi MJ and MCU MJ. Honestly though, even if Michelle is the one and only MJ in the MCU, I'd still be happy with the character, Zendaya does a really good job.
@@ajwsings From when I saw that scene my thought of how it affected the story was that Peter was starting to feel guilty over Tony's death,trusting Mysterio and when he saw MJ in the illusion taken away it seemed like he felt he could not save her or anyone else and then after he left from the Netherlands he was'nt sure of what or who was real and what's not,Once he starts to have his talk with Happy, Peter starts feel less pressure and steps up into his own mantle as a hero and motivates him to go off to protect his friends and defeat Mysterio.
Adrian Angel-Ramirez People said the same thing about mark hamil with joker what if he played joker instead of heath ledger. I feel like having a new take could lead to something more amazing
@@paulakroy2635 I think you're just crazy. It's freaking J.K. Simmons, dude. Just because it's "S A F E" doesn't mean it's bad. It's a callback to one of the best Spider-Man characters being performed by a reprisal that makes so much sense. Your distaste feels kind of... stupid, if I'm being honest.
exactly! when nick asked him who he told then it cut to it being beck, I was so shocked it wasn't over. then the train. just... wow! story is great but the visuals are just breathtaking.
Fun fact, if you play Spider-Man PS4 now, in the Spider-Man: Far from Home upgraded suit, the badguys will be like "Hey, I thought you said he was on vacation!" Pretty cool nod to the movie.
What I liked about MJ in this film was when and how she showed her emotional, more sensitive side instead of just being the awkward nerd. And it showed that only Peter could make her open up and express herself more. I think Zendaya did an awesome job on that!
FFH was almost a perfect movie for me. I was never bored, due to it's GREAT pacing. The action was fantastic, the villain was executed so well, and it's connection to other MCU movies is incredible.
Oluf Tafdrup Yup. IMO I believe it was the BETTER movie compared to endgame. Of course, I liked endgame more but FFH is better with its pacing and plot.
I couldn't put my finger on exactly why I loved this movie so much but your comment made me realize. It was the pacing The pacing of this movie is fantastic and unfortunately that is not something many of the marvel films share.
@randy K15 Doesn't matter. General consensus is that the pacing rocks. You're one grain of salt in an ocean of comments, nobody cares if you thought it sucked.
The Juicing of the Cactus exactly. It’s as though they shrugged off that whole arc which was even present in Far From Home too. It’s as though they don’t watch the movies and say “Oh well it’s not Maguire so it’s fucking garbage”
EShooter yes it does. His neighborhood in friendly neighborhood Spider-Man is queens and NYC. There was a giant alien space ship over it. He’s not gonna ignore it when his mentor is getting his ass kicked by aliens in Central Park. Refusing to run recon and different missions with the Avengers is different then helping out when the world is about to end.
@@superfly2535 even if he`s really dead, this closes an arc established right at the moment EDITH (Even Dead I`m The Hero) is introduced, was a clever way for Tony to say to the world that even dead, he was the hero, his final legacy, it makes sense for a character like Tony Stark, and since Peter told Beck to become the new Iron Man, the arc concludes as he does become Iron Man, because even though he died, at the eyes of the public, HE`S the hero.
I hate the criticism about mysterios motivation/character being tied to Ironman. Like the original comic motivation is that he’s a movie visual effects artist that got fired and was salty about it. The mcu spin they put on it is perfect for the mcu and makes total sense.
Amal Pushparaj none of them are employees of stark, people think vulture was, but he wasn’t. He lost his job because of stark. And he didn’t want revenge against stark, he just wanted to be left alone to do his shady shit. Mysterio wanted to basically dance on tonys grave and take his place.
My favorite scene was when it is revealed that Mysterio is a villain .. When he says 'that wasn't so hard' after getting EDITH .. man that made me angry on the character which is a good thing according to me
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 There's a difference between "I hate that character because he's a terrible character" and "I hate that character because he's a terrible person". The kind of character that is so well written that if you saw them on the street you'd punch them in the face because you hate them so much for what they've done or said. Getting that kind of response from people is good writing.
The Nameless same! I’ve always loved when it started with Antmans subatomic scene then to Dr. Strange. It was awesome seeing the illusion sequence in theater!
I was absolutely shocked by how good FFH was! I had low expectations for a movie that seemingly had so much packed into it, only for it to turn out to be fake, or a play at how "people will believe anything." The audience was able to feel what Spider-Man felt; his betrayal, and the feeling of being fooled. Marvel did an amazing job at tying the movie's message into the audience's experience. Now let's talk about Mysterio. Mysterio is by far my favorite Marvel villain (if not my favorite villain in general). I don't know what it was about him, but Jake Gyllenhaal's portrayal of him was so incredibly and surprisingly satisfying. I left the theater feeling genuinely happy with what the movie had to offer, while also being shocked and excited about the post credit scenes. I'm not a comic book reader, nor do I plan to become one, but I know that this movie should've pleased most long-term Marvel fans. 10/10.
Completely agree. I was worried how they’d play with Mysterio, as most people watching will not buy that he might be a good guy for even one second, but the knowledge that he is the bad guy makes the scene where Spider-Man gives him the glasses so intense and harrowing.
Zaya Moone FFH was easily one of my favourite Spider-Man movies ever next to Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man 2 because let’s face it it’s a classic. The plot is great, bringing in a classic villain like mysterio was also very smart in my opinion, and I just loved it. Tom Holland plays a fantastic Peter and deserves all the praise he gets. I will forever say it, Tobey Maguire made Spider-Man cool and nailed every part of Peter’s character, but Tom Holland makes me love him. Literally no complaints with this movie at all!😊
hamhockbeans yeah but like that scene was an entire choreographed scene with dialogue and effects and shit, they can’t have gone to that length just for a trailer scene
@@ronniebaker6843 That can happen, trailers are made before the final edits of a film since trailer cuts can get scenes before a movie is fully complete. In editing, scenes can get cut to help with pacing.
that's my biggest disappointment, I really wished they threw a bone to daredevil and the other street level heroes. they should at least have had them in the big final battle in endgame
I think they could've addressed it, but one of the biggest complaints for homecoming was that the suit was too high tech, so maybe that's why they never did address it?
Mayo Tango131 it was simply highschoolers trying to honour a group of heroes who saved them in their own way. The joke was how bad the presentation was, it wasn’t the sacrifice of some of the superheroes, so no, it’s not like a person making fun of the holocaust....
@@Scroteydada it's just like saying "no one asked." When someone says something completely random and off topic. The meme's a bit tired but it's weird to say you don't get it. Unless you were just trying to be relatable to get likes..
What new places is he being pushed? Wtf you mean comic Peter parker made his own suit, actually loved and mentioned Uncle Ben which this one does not, the best part about MCU Peter Parker is when he is in suit, out of it he is a reactive character not proactive.
MysteryBounty did...did you miss the ENTIRE SCENE in Far From Home dedicated to Peter designing and constructing his own suit? That argument doesn’t work anymore bud. I’ll give you Uncle Ben, but in my opinion he’s the prime motivator for Peter BECOMING a hero, not the prime motivator in all storylines going forward. So it’s not necessary to have him in all Spider-Man stories. And he’s not proactive when he’s not in the suit? That’s just straight up false. There are a several scenes in Far From Home where he goes after things when he’s not in the suit. He pursues his interest in MJ tirelessly throughout the film. And if that’s not enough to be considered “proactive,” you could make the same argument about Tobey and Andrew’s Spider-Men too, btw. “They only react to the villains or the struggles in their lives”. So? That’s what most of us do, as humans.
grayson which boggles my mind because Peter has received technology from other people in nearly ALL his iterations. Whether it’s Doc Ock, Doc Connors, Osborn, Horizon Labs, or Tony Stark, he receives help and tech in a TON of his stories. The only one that he doesn’t is the Raimi films, which opted to COMPLETELY ignore the technological side of the character. Doc Ock LITERALLY designed peters new suit in PS4, and yet NOBODY complained about that the same way they complain about MCU Spider-Man. It’s this weird double standard about the MCU interpretation.
Mcu Spider-Man is the most fun and refreshing version to me. Tom Holland finally captures his boyhood demeanor with a supporting story that makes us feel like a high school kid who is struggling with the responsibility of the world.
@@rainstrmds canonically he's 16 years old... and I'd say his childishness is a cornerstone of his character he'll never lose and never should, that's the point of Spiderman.
@@Atimix1 If you send a child off to war, they grow up pretty fast. Peter has fought thugs, murderers, organized crime, other superheroes, the supervillains Vulture and Shocker and then Thanos. He has seen tragedy and loss with Ben, Liz, War Machine, the Snap and Tony's death. He lives in a post-snap world that he is partially responsible for. And he still hasn't grown up or matured. His character arc is very flat. All he's done is complain about superhero responsibility and try to avoid it. The immature, childish Peter doesn't make sense after five films.
@@rainstrmds if you haven't seen growth in his character that's on you, MCU Peter has come a far way from his origin but his personality- isn't ever going to change. The theme of tackling responsibility will always be the theme in all of his movies.
@@WrathofFenrir99 he gave it up because he genuinely felt that he wasn't the right person to be the next Iron Man. For a sixteen-year-old, passing off the responsibility to someone you feel is more capable is actively a mature decision. You think Homecoming Peter would have made that decision? From that one action alone, you can tell that he's grown.
I am really amazed, how they brought everything together. It feels like Spider-man always belonged in the mcu. Far From Home is one of the best, if not the best movie of the mcu!
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@@joeblaze2235 Idk really. I was hearing a lot of "I want this" instead of just accepting what we had been given. A lot of people compare HiTop and Midnight (more Midnight to be honest) to the Cosmonaut Variety Hour. He, apart from his controversial Raimi video that still has more likes than dislikes, has pretty agreeable opinions. He actually finds a lot of the MCU kind of mediocre, which I respect. He obviously has read his fair share of comics (not like the others haven't), and knows his shit. He said in his ASM and Spider-Verse reviews that he tries to look at things from a comic perspective AND a movie perspective. HiTop seems to be missing the mark a tiny bit. I watched his video (I cringed) and I couldn't quite put my finger on the point he was trying to make. I'm sick of "blah blah Raimi this, blah blah Raimi that". HiTop seemed to be trying to balance the two genres like Cosmonaut, but the scales kept tipping in one direction or another, both times being completely negative. It's hard to take seriously someone who doesn't know the point they are trying to make. Cosmonaut bases his reviews by saying what he liked, then what he didn't like. Not what could've been better (most of the time, but for REALLY shitty things he proposes better ideas) He then finishes his videos by giving a score, of which most of the MCU got like a 6-7/10. I watch and subscribe to people who cover all bases. I don't subscribe to people that are quite narrowminded.
This MJ isn't even supposed to be a re-imagining of the original MJ, she's a completely different character that they gave the same initials to for nostalgia's sake
Zeldafan2007 it would be funny if they added her in the future along with Black Cat. Although I hope he gets together with Black Cat, since he’s already been with MJ and Gwen and it’d be nice for a difference in change
@@ajwsings they're doing things different because they didn't want to introduce things we've seen before so I dont think she's coming , we've already got an MJ , we don't need another one , just saying
@@oisinreilly2639 AGREED. I'm not a fan of love triangles before they're always so bland and annoying. I love the chemistry between Zendaya and Tom Holland. Hope they don't change it up
After seeing so many other TH-camrs being disappointed in FFH, (HiTop Films, Browntable, etc.) It's a nice change of pace to see someone that genuinely enjoyed the film as much as I did. I appreciate that, thanks.
I do respect criticism but... there's just so many people that are disappointed with this movie... I also appreciate it though. Finally someone who actually enjoys the movie for how it is.
@@TBGHydreigon I did, you just made it seem like SO MANY youtubers are disliking the movie when there's only just a handful. Majority of the people love it.
its crazy how everyone loved this movie when it came out but now for some reason everyone is criticizing it just because they want to compare spiderman with spiderman. doesn’t matter if its tobey or andrew or andrew and tom. No way home truly showed all of them are equal and all of them are great.
Mysterio is the best villain in the MCU. Change my mind. Finally we get a guy who is just a bad dude. His motivations? Totally selfish. Caring about the people? No chance. Respect for the man who beat him? Nope, I'll get the last laugh. Mysterio is a 'character', even as Quentin Beck. And that's true to the comics. He's larger than life because that's what Beck always wanted: to be seen, to be noticed. And he's dangerous. Oh man is he dangerous. Accepting for a second the low odds of him fooling actual Fury, he still duped Talos, an actual shapeshifter. Even after his position as a supervillain is revealed, something he was desperate to avoid at all costs, and arguably his greatest strength (his anonymity) was lost, he still manages to dominate spiderman in a fight by manipulating him completely. Hell, even when Spiderman builds his own suit, comes up with a counterplan, takes Mysterio by suprise and even uses his most overpowered superpower to its fullest, Mysterio still wins. Fight me on that too. Now Mysterio is known the world over as a hero. Spiderman is someone desperate for Iron Man's position, and willing to kill as a result, whilst being in control of the most military might on the planet. Oh yeah, and he's a high schooler. It's everything he wanted. And he got it. Compare that to Toomes, who's still in jail. Mysterio is he villain who actually WINS.
"The humour comes from the characters, not just a cheap gag" Flashbacks to the teacher bumbling around taking a photo and dropping his camera at Venice
Or peter yelling “GUYS LOOK, A BABY GOAT!” And everyone dramatically turns around long enough for peter to do a backflip out of the bus and destroy a drone
I feel like the teacher bumbling around fit his character. Earlier in the movie it was kinda established that he was a weirdo, with his wife having left him etc, so it fit his character
Your take on it, and especially the criticisms, I can agree with. Especially when you talk about Peter's uncle, Ben. We only got small references of him, but not a direct reference or image or anything of him that directly impacts Peter. That being said, I think you are looking too much into this Spiderman. He's the MCU version. Not everything will be comic-book accurate or Raimi-accurate. Nonetheless, I did understand your criticisms of the movie. I respect that.
4:15 The convenient fact that all the gang were snapped in the blip had a really nice subtle nod in Infinity War. When they're on the school bus and Peter asks the fat friend for a distraction, and he then sees the donut spacecraft and says "oh God _WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE"._ In hindsight it's pretty blatant.
I also love how people are calling out this for being convenient but didn’t find it a little convenient that all of the OG avengers from the first one just happened to stay alive for endgame lol
I don't even think it's that convenient that they all got snapped. When you have a group as big as half the literal universe for the snap to affect, it's not even that unlikely that they all got snapped.
I've already seen the movie, it's a blast and I like it more than homecoming beacuse it makes Peter Parker and Spider-man clash together and in this clash Peter Parker grows understanding his responsibilities now that Iron Man is gone and I think it's absolutely awesome
@@vishansilva8546 yeah, i like the idea cuz, in the OG comics he is 15-16 peter in a long time and in the raimi films and amazing Spiderman they already finished their high school... (sry for my English).
People need to understand that Tom Holland Spider-Man was different than the other Spider-Man it's just his universe takes place with the Avengers were it makes sense that he has a mentor and someone like Iron Man is Totally understandable, I prefer Tobey Maguire but I prefer Tom Holland over Andrew Garfield so yeah I actually like MCU Spider-Man.
@@ericschnautz6603Ah yes, he shoots electricity out of his hands and goes invisible. He became Spider-Man because Peter Parker died. No, Mcu Peter is not Miles. He’s more of a mix of ultimate Peter and Miles.
@@Webhead19_62 miles morales is the young energetic social spider man with a young hot mom who was more or less middle class. Peter is usually the angsty loner trying to pay rent and make sure aunt may is happy.
@@dope8878 But yes, I’m aware. Aunt May isn’t his mom though, and uncle Ben wasn't working for S.H.I.E.L.D, if we’re talking about MCU Spider-Man. Peter in the comics was also young and energetic when he became Spider-Man.
What I loved was the fact that he was finally independent in this movie. Sure, his new suit is still made with Stark tech, but still, *he made it himself.* No one built this new suit for him, he finally got to make his own gear.
I want a failed Spider Man kiss with MJ, because it is an iconic kiss and want it to be included but I want it to fail because this Peter is not smooth enough to pull it off, MJ is kind of awkward too. I love both of them like this, so dorky and relatable.
DJHart yeah i’m tired of this whole “peter parker is a dork who is awkward 24/7 and doesn’t know how to be a person” when that’s literally never been how the character is meant to be. when peter has the mask on he’s supposed to be more confident and comfortable doing everything, which is why he quips
@@deanmoriarty6015 Plus, in the 90's cartoon at least, he really never had trouble getting the ladies. Going off-topic, but watching the first episode of the cartoon and comparing that to The Amazing Spider-Man, I'm sure they were basing Andrew Garfield's character on the cartoon.
@@deanmoriarty6015 No. I agree that he is more confident and comfortable, but he's stated that he quips in order to help alleviate situations and make him less stressed when fighting crime.
Even though I enjoyed Homecoming, I thought Far From Home was a far better film. I thought Peter's arc was interesting, Mysterio was a really good villain, and the mid-credit scene was one of the best in the entire MCU franchise. It made me excited to see what Marvel Studios will have in store for Spider-Man in his next movie.
I absolutely loved Spider-Man: Far From Home. It was so different from Homecoming, and I liked that one, but this one is just so good. It was very creative and that illusion scene was amazing!!
Some people are simply impossible to please. Anyone that’s using the whole Iron Man thing as a reason to not like these Spider Man movies needs to just stop. There isn’t a single superhero movie ever made that is 100% accurate to the comic books. So what if his Spidey suit is high tech Stark equipment. In order for Spider-Man to do all sorts of different things with his webs (like he’s always done in comics) then it needs to be pretty advanced. And it doesn’t make much sense that he’d be capable of creating his suit without Starks tech. It’s not like he’s flying around firing missiles like he’s Iron Man... The fact that I’m even having to defend this is ridiculous.
@@bungski2234 Don't forget Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight Aka a bunch of whiny nerds who value movies mostly for the nostalgia than the actual content I honestly rank FFH above Spider-Man 2...
People want him to be broke but at the same time want him to build all his stuff out of thin air... Like bruh maybe that stuff happened only in the comics for a reason. Even the Raimi trilogy avoided Peter making his own webshooters, and you don't see Raimi fans complain about that nowadays.
SebasTheNerd HiTopsFilms makes great videos, has a lot of awesome ideas, and is obviously a very passionate fan. That being said, he’s super nitpicky and enjoying his videos is such a hit or miss for me. His Far From Home video comes off more as someone who just wants MCU Peter to be a direct rip from the comics which was obviously not the case almost right away as he was introduced as a hero that is almost Tony Stark’s sidekick. Yet he still wants him to return to being a more faithful depiction but that’s just not what he is. TLDR; Alex needs to learn how to have fun with a different take on the character.
I've been waiting for your thoughts. Personally, I really LOVED this one. They've somehow managed to break the curse from the runs of Sony, which just had a steep decline in quality across both series. Here, they somehow made the second installation better than the first.
@@bread9132 You do realise this is Marvel making this movie, right? Sony has simply given permission for them to do so, as they still own the rights to the franchice. Besides slapping their name on it, Sony has nothing to do with this movie.
With Spider-Man’s unique, yet highly underrated character arc within the MCU, it’s becoming more and more apparent how both those two films are heavily based on the early works of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s Spider-Man comics in showing the different phases Peter has as he grew up In Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Peter was still a boy. He’s already been through the major life-changing turn of events earlier that year such as the radioactive spider bite that granted him superpowers, and the death of his uncle due to Peter’s selfishness that haunts the shit out of him to this day and ultimately drove him to the path of heroism. But this time around, after his scene-stealing appearance in Civil War where he met all of his favorite superheroes for the first time, we’re exploring the life of Peter Parker and his overall character. He's going around solving low level crimes, he's immature, impatient, childish, and relatively new to everything. His double life as Spider-Man isn't dramatic, it's therapeutic and it’s comedic. He keeps losing his backpack, he gets caught in his Spidey suit, his shenanigans lead him to getting detention, and had his tech suit taken away, which is equivalent to a parent taking away their kid’s phone. The world is constantly beating him to his knees and his sense of self worth as a superhero is based on the Avengers (mostly Tony Stark). It isn't until he's in the rubble that he starts to look inward calling on his strength as Spider-Man to save himself because he isn't defined by a fancy suit, he's defined by his actions. It’s where he truly becomes Spider-Man In Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019), Peter is starting to fully transition out of boyhood and becomes a young man. He has let go of his first crush and has moved onto a new love he finds in MJ, not because of how she looks or vague descriptions of her just being "the best", but because he likes who she is as a person. He is now in a world where the heroes are scattered as the Avengers appear to be disbanded after the 5 year gap and the events of Endgame. But he's still trying to hold onto a few things by looking for some other hero to look up to so he can have guidance. He has grown out of his desire to be in the big leagues because he's seen the kind of struggle that brings, and his self doubt makes him feel like he isn't up to the challenge. He isn’t quitting being Spider-Man out of fear, he is just trying to remain the rookie he was when Tony first recruited him because the times were much simpler back than (we've all had moments when we wish we could go back to being kids, less responsibilities, etc). It isn't until he learns Mysterio is a fraud and is given words of affirmation from Happy regarding the pedestal the world (Peter included) put Tony on, that he rises to the challenge and proves his capabilities not only to others, but to himself. Happy basically explains to Peter Parker that the superheroes that he idolizes (specifically Stark) have flaws and imperfections as well. Tony Stark was flawed, fallible, and struggles with self-doubt much like Peter. The whole point of “the next Iron Man” thing isn’t for Peter to literally become Iron Man, but they want to make Spider-Man as popular of a superhero as Iron Man once was. Kevin Fiege is building Spider-Man up to be the greatest superhero the MCU has ever seen. Spider-Man will create a legacy of his own that’ll eventually overshadow Captain America and Iron Man’s legacies. That’s what the whole movie is about. Iron Man was the face of the MCU, and now Spider-Man is the new face of the MCU. He wasn't alongside other heroes facing the drone army, he was on his own, he used his own intuition, and his own natural superpowers bested upon him from that fateful spider bite to defeat Mysterio and save the day, reigning absolutely victorious. From what we can see in this year’s Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021), Peter's life is becoming more and more dramatic. The consequences he faces have gone from detention to being framed for murder. His double life is now becoming more conflicting as he tries to hang onto the few good things he's gotten (I have a feeling the end of the movie will have Strange complete the spell properly and the entire world forgets his identity, including his friends and Aunt May). He even starts to step away from saying "sir" because he is no longer the rookie. He has proven his worth and his place among the hero community, he is facing bigger enemies, and he is facing it alone (for the most part). There is a clear arc for MCU Peter as we watch him grow from a boy to a (Spider-) man. And it’s annoying as hell when people call him “Iron Boy Jr” just because Spidey wasn’t in his prime (physically and mentally) immediately after becoming Spider-Man. While I disagree with some changes they made with the character, I freaking love MCU Spider-Man. His character arc is just awesome to me. Marvel & Sony are actually taking their time to develop their Spider-Man into the Spider-Man we know and love. And depending on how No Way Home performs this Christmas, we can be assured that his fun hero adventures will continue in his possible second trilogy.
This aged nicely. Its nice to see someone else was paying attention to what Marvel was doing with Spider-Man. If Peter is already "Spider-Man" at 16 years old..then the writers have failed us.
1Dreamking They need more teamup movies that are separate from solo and Avengers movies. Like, having movies dedicated to specific characters teaming up like that.
(And they could play with the fact that they fought against eachother in Cap: Civil War. Well not the Wasp but... She could be more like the "grown up" in the team with Ant-Man and Spider-Man trying to outwit eachother with jokes etc) And ofc we get a good reason to see Luis again!!! (Michael Peña)
Another amazing movie I can't wait to see again! I honestly have trouble picking between Homecoming and Far From Home, they're both my favorite mcu movies
They’re awesome movies, but nothing will ever dethrone Endgame, followed by infinity war. Those two will be my personal best movies since movies exist.
I also think it's worth mentioning how tongue in cheek the teen dramedy aspect is - the writing is very self aware, and uses this genre to tell us more about Parker's character.
Why? HiTop literally said that he’s okay with and respects peoples opinions about the movie. Gotta love how quickly people love to instigate drama/fights.
God damn it I want Kraven to be in the next Spider-man movie so bad, and if they popped Jon Bernthal in there as The Punisher as well that'd be insane.
I think this is the best Spider-Man movie so far. It's funny, serious... great villain, one of the best MCU villains of all times (Marvel really learned their lesson and is doing a great job with the villains now). It had me the whole time trying to figure out Beck, "Is he pretending? He looks so genuine. Maybe something will happen to make he evil?" and I loved the reveal. I loved the teen comedy/romance. It had a similar beat with Spider-Man wanting to just have a normal life, Raimi's second Spider-Man had, but I think this was done better. Peter never actually threw away the costume so to speak... but was reluctant to being spider. Which I think is a better way to show that, than to make Peter walk away from someone being beaten to death. And JK Simmons. It was the cherry on top of a great movie... with a great cliff-hanger. I like that secret identities are not that important in the MCU.
I’m sad that HiTop didn’t like this film but I can tell the reasoning he had really hits his heart. I may not really agree with them, but what I can do is everyone has their own opinions and experiences that I haven’t experienced.
Nobody in our theatre got the joke, me included, till someone explained it in another comment. I could tell it probably was a joke, just from the pacing, but I didn't get it. At least they still put in some fun goodies for the parents and stuff that are dragged to the theaters though!
Every movie I’ve ever went to in my city, the audience has never actually reacted to anything. But when I watch the movie out of town, the audience is fun.
@@clodcollecting51 Hahah yeah, I live in the country so the audience is usually pretty open to actually reacting to movies, that's why I'm pretty sure they didn't get the joke - cause they laughed at the other ones. I guess in cities you're so used to keeping your guard up around strangers that it just kind of bleeds into other things?
Thank you Captain Midnight finally somebody praises this movie. I have literally heard multiple channels called his movie terrible like hi-top films, the amazing super Mike but I'm glad somebody thought this was a perfect movie I mean I thought it was awesome.
@CYB3R2K30 all of the movie is absolutely hilarious, and there isn't even Mr. Stark in the movie, he's already dead. Iron Man was an icon, one of the greatest heroes in the world in this universe, of course they're gonna have to deal with the repercussions of his tragic self-sacraficious death. Did you not watch the movie?
I think it would be difficult... handling six vilains interestingly and adequatly in a single movie, it's difficult. Even the Spider-man game, which was great in its own way, didn't really cover the Sinister Six with depth despite not having the time constraint movies have.
DIERSTEIN Julien The Avengers already proved a large cast can work. I would put all my focus on the sinister six and give Spider-Man as much screen time as Loki got in Avengers.
The Skrull reveal at the end made some of the scenes of Fury and Hill make more sense in hindsight. Like, when Peter was spouting off all of the multiverse science stuff they looked surprised. Real Fury and Hill probably wouldn't have been surprised at all, knowing that Peter went to space and met Dr Strange etc.
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Best thing was the teacher saying how is wife faked being blipped away.. damn this guy had it rough through out it
funnpmLOL Two I am still sad about his camera...
Lena Feline lol same. He seems like he’s got it rough enough without his camera drowning. 😂
Literally faked her blipped to marry some other guy 😂 gotta feels
Martin Starr plays the kind, punching bag very well 😆 We all know a Mr. Harrington
Best fucking joke in the MCU. Everyone lost their shit for minutes in the theater, I still do when I remember.
I really liked the fact that Mysterio's team has person whose job is literaly to come up with pseudo science and ridicilous backstories.
Stories that, I quote Mysterio here "People for some reason absolutely believe"
IKR! I fucking loved the fact that Mysterio isn't just one person, it's a whole team!!!
@@beinerthchitivamachado874 I disliked this point a lot
It's also great foreshadowing of the JJJ twist in the end credits scene.
@@zetsub0u115 LMAO, why?
Well the whole film is about media and how it influences the public.
Honestly, this villain got super dark, super fast. Manipulating illusions so that someone else can't tell if what's real or not is a fucking intense power. Kinda funny how for years I thought Mysterio was a no-go for the movies. It must've been the fishbowl helmet. They really did a great job here.
EloquentTiger they kinda used his ridiculous helmet as an advantage in here. It helped to obscure him for the illusion and stood out enough for you to believe that he is some alien hero fighting to save the earth. It’s cartoony and weird, and that was the goal here. Clever
@@frankwest5388 Exactly. I like how they lampshade how Mysterio's fake backstory is ridiculous but simultaneously explains his costume design to the world in and out of the movie
And he didnt hesitate to kill innocents or children.
His illusions are like a more emotionally complex version of Wanda’s vision manipulation. Not only are your worst nightmares happening in your head, but you have to actually see them consciously.
@@mcmurray360 Or threaten people ironing his cape.
The problem with this is that spider man didn't made fun of mysterio's fish bowl in the movie
jeb _ I know you died and all but there’s a hyphen between Spider and man
We miss you
Lol ye
Well to be fair the fish bowl was actually cool??
That was the biggest flaw of the Raimi Spiderman series, Spiderman never making fun of or taunting the villains.
I loved how Mysterio was basically making a superhero movie inside this superhero movie.
Drace90 superheromovie-ception?
Drace90 I liked that he wore the special effect suit for the illusion. Instead of wearing the “real” suit the whole time
TheLostGamingHQ _ yeah right! The suit Mysterio was wearing is the same suit all the actors wear for their CGI suits
Turtle P O R G that’s what I’m talking about
it was basically syndrome from incredible's character arc tho
This movie had one of the most satisfying villain takedowns in movie history. When peter catches becks arm just as he's about to shoot him.
Yeah, that was really satisfying, and solidified Spider-Man's abilities going forward =)
what sold that scene for me was Peter's next line, "You can't fool me anymore." It's just the way Tom said it. It wasn't like a bond line. It wasn't matter of factly. It's said with a mix of confidence and sorrow. It's "I beat you, but I really wanted you to not be the guy I had to beat."
I loved that moment too. Spider-Man characteristically hates fighting his villains, as they are often people he either knows personally or wants to help. Peter's sorrow at being betrayed really underscored that central aspect of his character to always want to see the best in people, and being hurt when he can't help someone come back from the dark side. Beck felt like the next Tony Stark to him, and with Tony gone I think Peter unintentionally tried to fill that void with this charming, good natured guy he's just met because he was desperate to have Tony back in his life. That left Beck open to play him like a fiddle, and manipulate his emotions, which in turn taught Peter an important lesson about loss and trust.
@@Bad_At_Parties Mysterio didn't manipulate Peter at all. He just presented himself as an Iron Man level superhero. Peter didn't care about Edith and Tony's legacy. The glasses were lost on the dirty bar floor. Mysterio just asked Peter what he wanted. And he gave up the keys of the kingdom with super quickness. He did all the mental gymnastics required, offered the glasses as his own idea and with his own free will, then scurried off care free to be with MJ. Mysterio only conned him into thinking he was the real deal. Peter just was naturally inclined to dump his responsibility on _anyone_ who fit the description. Dr. Strange, Captain Marvel... Mysterio. This Spider-Man was super-selfish and irresponsible.
@@stephenmarco2927 yeah, only he did get him one last time.
Far from Home was worth the cinema ticket just for the nightmare fight scene and the first after-credit scene.
Truee
I didn’t particularly like this movie a lot but those scenes were really good
the first illusion fight with mysterio may be my favorite part of the whole movie. it jsut shows how far we have come in terms of cgi. it still does not beat thanos throwing asteroids at tony on titan but it's up there.
Completely. I was not expecting to have such a great time. It really felt like a classic comic book movie
@@megamike15 Same here, I kinda forgot that Mysterio could pull off that hardcore, atmospheric illusion
Remember when Vulture and Mysterio looked goofy and weird.
And how now they’re... like... some of the best villains in the MCU...
Remember when people thought Steve and Tony were lame characters?
And how now they're....like...some of the best CBM Heroes ever?
@@juggle6052 Funny thing is that for a long time, Steve and Tony were seen as C listers who didn't deserve their own movies.
@@ShadowSonic2 Really? Wow
Thanos
@@gdottothegamer1001 heck, every major MCU character aside from Spiderman and thanos were B to C list heroes and villains
I personally enjoyed it more than Homecoming, and this sits as my third favorite Spidey movie. Also loved Mysterio and how he was portrayed.
What would you say are your top 3? Rami's one and two then far from home?
Number One is Spider-Man 2 for being a fun action flick with good action and moments
Number Two is Spider-Verse for bringing something fresh to both animation and Spidey
And Three is Far From Home for also being a fun action flick with some great moments
Not a big fan of Raimi’s Spidey 1
@@mcmistle9892 fair, I keep forgetting about spider-verse for some reason lol
My all-time favourite is Spider-Man 2. After that one, I'd say Spider-Man and in #3, this one.
I loved the effects, when he went all out to try and "break" Spider-Man at the warehouse.
One thing I love about the MCU Spider-Man is what they've done with characters that are usually cheesy like Vulture and Mysterio, bringing them to the big screen for the first time and in an amazing way
The car scene in Homecoming was the most intense scene in the entire movie. From the moment you realize he is Liz's dad it becomes madness.
yeah now the super chessy ones are the hero and support cast
its a comic book movie. Its supposed to be cheesy, whats everyone's obsession with making everything thats fun bland?
@@alfa01spotivo I think you are missing the point
@@alfa01spotivo I didn't think Vulture or Mysterio were bland. What made you think so?
bro, spiderman wasn’t even in the film until halfway through, there was just night monkey
&connextro actually you’re wrong and also incorrect
@connextro geek
Old Scratch
never make fun of somebody for being the smartest person in the room
@@alienklein lmao I'm not making fun of him for knowing about the hyphen. Almost everyone knows about it. I'm making fun of him for making a big deal out of it. Knowing about the hyphen in Spider-Man's name doesn't make you the smartest man in the room.
@@oldscratch6861 That was a reference to what Mysterio said.
I love how all the people who say the suit does all the work ignore the fact that peter used the homemade suit for the final act of homecoming to show he was more than the suit
You gotta keep in mind that Raimi stans don’t actually watch the movies lol
@@crunchy1547 so I debate with those raimi tards for no reason at all🤦♂️
crunchy, apparently and also, Peter did not use EDITH at all during the final battle and sure he built his suit using Tony’s tech but honestly, if he didn’t, he would’ve been killed. Peter had no help from Tony at all and EDITH was no help other than to stop the drones, which was for 1 second
Yeah, and in Far From Home Spider-Man beat Mysterio by himself with his skills and ingenuity. The most Stark Tech used in the film are the Taser Webs and that's it, after his webs run out it's Peter Parker and his abilities who beat Mysterio. And oh yeah, Raimi Tards (I prefer the name Tobey Tards because alliteration) are easily the most toxic part of Spider-Man or even Superhero community.
Thing is, the suit barely even does anything apart from have fancy stuff that peter doesn’t quite know how to use. And even if he does rely on tech, he is the one controlling it, he just has to use it right. People act like he’s invincible
I loved the second half of Far From Home. Mysterio was the highlight of the movie. Apparently the next movie will be very different to all other Spidey films, looking forward to that!
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The first half of the movie was boring and all over the place
Shuaib Davids I agree, and I wasn’t a fan of the humor.
Shuaib Davids i didn't agree... i loved all of the movie
In my opinion, I loved the first half because it was fun. Sure, some of the humour didn’t land, but I liked it. However, it pails in comparison to the second half.
Daredevil becomes Peter’s lawyer and helps him clear his name. Sets daredevil up for a movie in the MCU or gets connected to the Netflix series somehow.
Love this idea.
I doubt they are gonna include the netflix series in the MCU.
I doubt this will happen, but it's a great idea.
Have a big assembly where Peter and Spider-Man stand next to each other to prove they’re not the same. Except Spider-Man is a skrull.
@@julio_crack No a Skrull makes its self to look like Peter they don't have Spider-man's powers. It is easier for them to act like Peter Parker than Spidey to make it believable.
10:34 ***he literally died for all life on the universe since the version of Thanos he dusted plans to kill all life, not just half.
Yeah but if he had just left things alone only half would have stayed dead
@@corbans5796 Hulk did that before the battle even started. Everything woulda been fine as long as decade younger thanos didn't kill everyone
@@ostrari true but hulk couldn't have done that if Tony hadn't invented time travel
@@corbans5796 True but tony wouldnt have invented time travel if Antman didnt discover it. Itso-facto Antman saved everyone.
@@BossKillRatio but a rat saved ant man so really everyone should worship the rat who saved the world
I highly appreciate your support of MJ. And your desire for her to have an identity that pre exists Peter.
it's a shame she doesn't have one at all
@@shealupkes lol yeah tobey forever
@@abhigcovers20 nah he needed more of that Spiderman hint like he needs to talk more during battle and be witty that's a huge part of Spiderman
One thing people have to remember is yeah shes MJ but she isn't Mary jane she's a completely different character so people have no right to be upset since they expect her to be Mary jane but she isnt
the mj in ramis movies wasnt that good she barley had a character like the real mj from the comics i really like zendaya's mj
Cool edgy MJ didn't grab me (good or bad, just meh) until that scene on the bridge. She was so adorably awkward and dorky, you really got to see behind the facade. It's different, and that's okay! As much as I love the Raimi movies, personally I found the Raimi MJ a bit of a wet blanket, damsel in distress boring and stereotypical.
If u anything about spiderman other than movies..u would have known these two mjs are different characters 🤦 in MCU it's Michelle. So it's not even worth comparing
@Marvelous Maker I mean, he already knew that. MJ in the MCU is basically Michelle yes but we don’t even know if we’ll get the Redheaded MJ(something I wouldn’t mind either way) that we mainly know. I don’t get your comment, the guy literally only said he likes MCU MJ more(I believe, correct me if I’m assuming) and that’s it.
@@tanishqkadam3475 Literally everyone knows Michelle is nowhere near MJ regarding character traits. Hell, even if you only know the movies, it's still pretty easy to see the differences between Raimi MJ and MCU MJ. Honestly though, even if Michelle is the one and only MJ in the MCU, I'd still be happy with the character, Zendaya does a really good job.
Both suck as adaptions of MJ, but MJ in the Raimi movies has actual character development unlike Michelle who is just terrible comedic relief
It was a different time
"What Makes Far From Home Spectacular."
Two words: *ILLUSION SCENE.*
one of my favorite scenes in any Spider-Man movie
Amen
@@jessicabader5594 Amen to that friend,Amen to that
@@ajwsings From when I saw that scene my thought of how it affected the story was that Peter was starting to feel guilty over Tony's death,trusting Mysterio and when he saw MJ in the illusion taken away it seemed like he felt he could not save her or anyone else and then after he left from the Netherlands he was'nt sure of what or who was real and what's not,Once he starts to have his talk with Happy, Peter starts feel less pressure and steps up into his own mantle as a hero and motivates him to go off to protect his friends and defeat Mysterio.
@@ajwsings accurate
I think appearance of J.J.Jameson exactly makes this movie spectacular!
I don’t like that jk Simons plays him. It feels like a very safe move for him to play him.
@@paulakroy2635 But JK is the perfect Jameson he was born to play him
Adrian Angel-Ramirez People said the same thing about mark hamil with joker what if he played joker instead of heath ledger. I feel like having a new take could lead to something more amazing
@@paulakroy2635 If it aint broke, dont fix it
@@paulakroy2635
I think you're just crazy. It's freaking J.K. Simmons, dude. Just because it's "S A F E" doesn't mean it's bad. It's a callback to one of the best Spider-Man characters being performed by a reprisal that makes so much sense. Your distaste feels kind of... stupid, if I'm being honest.
My favorite thing is that mysterio at certain points even fooled ME.
I knew the twist was coming but the way they've done it was quite impressive.
Etneciv Lego right, I knew what was going to happen but at points I was like wow, they really got me.
exactly! when nick asked him who he told then it cut to it being beck, I was so shocked it wasn't over. then the train. just... wow! story is great but the visuals are just breathtaking.
stonks dude when nick shot him I was like “wow that’s really it, that’s how they end that amazing sequence.” And then he gets hit by a train.
Idk everything was too predictable
Fun fact, if you play Spider-Man PS4 now, in the Spider-Man: Far from Home upgraded suit, the badguys will be like "Hey, I thought you said he was on vacation!" Pretty cool nod to the movie.
sorry but that's been in the game since day 1. he was supposed to take a vacation after beating kingpin
@@tystall2930 Or maybe we can just pretend it's an Easter egg for Spider-Man: Far from Home?
@connextro Yes
The Void no
@@jeremymunene5304 "Reality can be whatever I want."
What I liked about MJ in this film was when and how she showed her emotional, more sensitive side instead of just being the awkward nerd. And it showed that only Peter could make her open up and express herself more. I think Zendaya did an awesome job on that!
But she doesnt have a characters
Bruh, op literally explained her character
@@heronation6169 the op Literally explained her character
@@heronation6169 bruh moment op just explained it
FFH was almost a perfect movie for me. I was never bored, due to it's GREAT pacing. The action was fantastic, the villain was executed so well, and it's connection to other MCU movies is incredible.
Took the words right out of my mouth:D Far from home was awesome!!!
Oluf Tafdrup Yup. IMO I believe it was the BETTER movie compared to endgame. Of course, I liked endgame more but FFH is better with its pacing and plot.
I couldn't put my finger on exactly why I loved this movie so much but your comment made me realize. It was the pacing
The pacing of this movie is fantastic and unfortunately that is not something many of the marvel films share.
@randy K15 Doesn't matter. General consensus is that the pacing rocks. You're one grain of salt in an ocean of comments, nobody cares if you thought it sucked.
Andrew Lee Plus Peter’s AMAZING plan with MJ XD
Do people really say that about Homecoming? He literally fought the Vulture in his onesie at the end.
AND refused to become an official Avenger once Tony offered him the Iron Spider.
The Juicing of the Cactus exactly. It’s as though they shrugged off that whole arc which was even present in Far From Home too. It’s as though they don’t watch the movies and say “Oh well it’s not Maguire so it’s fucking garbage”
EShooter yes it does. His neighborhood in friendly neighborhood Spider-Man is queens and NYC. There was a giant alien space ship over it. He’s not gonna ignore it when his mentor is getting his ass kicked by aliens in Central Park. Refusing to run recon and different missions with the Avengers is different then helping out when the world is about to end.
EShooter you’re reaching 😂😂😂
@@eshooter6718 you do realize that he NEEDED the Iron Spider suit to breath in space, right? He'd die otherwise.
I love the scene where misterio tricks Spider-Man into saying who he told, that was absolutely perfect
Had me in the theater like "no dont do it!"
Noah Whetstone all the twists were so obvious I saw them coming the entire time
+Souled Out Cool for you i guess.
@@ricklancaster2218 does it matter?
@@antonbrown17 I saw a lot of things coming, somehow that one completely got me
Since I was a kid, i have always been in fear of Peter's greatest foe, realizing I too would have to meet Peter's constant nemesis: rent.....
_Land Lord_ is the scariest supervillain.
rainstrmds
Give me rent!
LMAO! 😂
I don't get paid this week. I'll give it to you next week. _I promise._
@@macoy3943 you'll get your rent when you fix this damn door!
You pay rent? Now?!
“I control the truth! Mysterio IS THE TRUTH!”
Great fucking villain, I hope *spoilers* he returns and his death was another fake-out
@@superfly2535 even if he`s really dead, this closes an arc established right at the moment EDITH (Even Dead I`m The Hero) is introduced, was a clever way for Tony to say to the world that even dead, he was the hero, his final legacy, it makes sense for a character like Tony Stark, and since Peter told Beck to become the new Iron Man, the arc concludes as he does become Iron Man, because even though he died, at the eyes of the public, HE`S the hero.
Dun..dun..dun, dun dun dun dun DUUUUUN DUUUUUN
@@superfly2535 no one is ever really dead in the mcu
Mysterio was cool af n Gyllenhaal's performance was really solid definitely a good villain!!! not to mention the visuals were also cool af
This is a really good review, critical but not hating, and praising but not fanboying. Love it
I hate the criticism about mysterios motivation/character being tied to Ironman. Like the original comic motivation is that he’s a movie visual effects artist that got fired and was salty about it. The mcu spin they put on it is perfect for the mcu and makes total sense.
It makes sense but we have seen it many times before and is kinda boring.
Amal Pushparaj when?
Cam Lucas homecoming
Iron monger
Whiplash
Aldrich Kiliian
Vulture
Amal Pushparaj none of them are employees of stark, people think vulture was, but he wasn’t. He lost his job because of stark. And he didn’t want revenge against stark, he just wanted to be left alone to do his shady shit. Mysterio wanted to basically dance on tonys grave and take his place.
My favorite scene was when it is revealed that Mysterio is a villain ..
When he says 'that wasn't so hard' after getting EDITH .. man that made me angry on the character which is a good thing according to me
ANiK .D why is it a good thing ?
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 There's a difference between "I hate that character because he's a terrible character" and "I hate that character because he's a terrible person". The kind of character that is so well written that if you saw them on the street you'd punch them in the face because you hate them so much for what they've done or said. Getting that kind of response from people is good writing.
Amazing Spiderman Fan 2002 same because they remind me of people from the real world
Kevin Griffith true but they remind of people in the real world which isn’t always fun to be reminded of
Kevin Griffith especially when they win
As soon as I found out Mysterio was the villain for this movie I knew there was going to be some wild trippy cgi. I was all for it.
The MCU's trippy cgi is soooooo good, and I love that nowdays there's at least one scene in every Marvel film featuring something like that.
The Nameless same! I’ve always loved when it started with Antmans subatomic scene then to Dr. Strange. It was awesome seeing the illusion sequence in theater!
I was absolutely shocked by how good FFH was! I had low expectations for a movie that seemingly had so much packed into it, only for it to turn out to be fake, or a play at how "people will believe anything." The audience was able to feel what Spider-Man felt; his betrayal, and the feeling of being fooled. Marvel did an amazing job at tying the movie's message into the audience's experience.
Now let's talk about Mysterio.
Mysterio is by far my favorite Marvel villain (if not my favorite villain in general). I don't know what it was about him, but Jake Gyllenhaal's portrayal of him was so incredibly and surprisingly satisfying. I left the theater feeling genuinely happy with what the movie had to offer, while also being shocked and excited about the post credit scenes. I'm not a comic book reader, nor do I plan to become one, but I know that this movie should've pleased most long-term Marvel fans. 10/10.
Completely agree. I was worried how they’d play with Mysterio, as most people watching will not buy that he might be a good guy for even one second, but the knowledge that he is the bad guy makes the scene where Spider-Man gives him the glasses so intense and harrowing.
@@lottam9972
I agree 100%
Zaya Moone FFH was easily one of my favourite Spider-Man movies ever next to Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man 2 because let’s face it it’s a classic. The plot is great, bringing in a classic villain like mysterio was also very smart in my opinion, and I just loved it. Tom Holland plays a fantastic Peter and deserves all the praise he gets. I will forever say it, Tobey Maguire made Spider-Man cool and nailed every part of Peter’s character, but Tom Holland makes me love him. Literally no complaints with this movie at all!😊
Cyberdemon Mike thanks for sharing
Cyberdemon Mike how so
Anyone else notice how that whole massive iron spider bar fight from the trailer was just completely missing from the film
Just like the Spider-man and Iron-man fly bye in Homecoming trailer we should know better to believe everything in a trailer. Shame on us.
It's an extra being put in the dvd. It'll be called Peter's to do list like how homecoming had a film by Peter
hamhockbeans yeah but like that scene was an entire choreographed scene with dialogue and effects and shit, they can’t have gone to that length just for a trailer scene
@@ronniebaker6843 That can happen, trailers are made before the final edits of a film since trailer cuts can get scenes before a movie is fully complete. In editing, scenes can get cut to help with pacing.
slayertakim1 oh shit, did not know that
This movie really satisfying from beginning to the end.
I'm gonna watch a second time because watching it one time wasn't enough!
Death Arcana Azuma samee! 😄😂
@@koyelnandy3005 Already did, and I'll probably make it three times very soon
@Lebowski get a life
WulfCry not for me, I thought it was bland.
Please tell me someone can take an opinion in these comments!
I want Daredevil as his lawyer in the next one.
Or She Hulk!
Schlock Jocks If it’s between Charlie Cox’s Daredevil or She Hulk I’m 100% going for Daredevil.
@@arc4859 me too man, I'm not a big fan of she-hulk
Spider-man sExIsT
that's my biggest disappointment, I really wished they threw a bone to daredevil and the other street level heroes.
they should at least have had them in the big final battle in endgame
I was actually disappointed there was no single interaction, not even a mention, of Karen :(
Yeah that was one of the only things I missed in this movie.
😟😟😟
I think they could've addressed it, but one of the biggest complaints for homecoming was that the suit was too high tech, so maybe that's why they never did address it?
Thank god she did, hopefully all the Stark tech will be destroyed in the future and we won't have to deal with this bs anymore
@Abraham Garcia Wow I didn't even think about that! It bothered me that she seemed to just disappear but that makes a lot more sense now, thanks :D
People didn't like the beginning scene? That part was amazing!
It was intentionally bad and corny, and that's what made it so great
Is like make fun about the holocaust.
@@mayotango1317 It's really, REALLY not.
Mayo Tango131 it was simply highschoolers trying to honour a group of heroes who saved them in their own way.
The joke was how bad the presentation was, it wasn’t the sacrifice of some of the superheroes, so no, it’s not like a person making fun of the holocaust....
@@sesereddead465 Just a idiot moment in a childish movie. Thank God for the Joker movie.
No one:
Captain Midnight: speaking of Spider-Man, medieval weaponry
That advertising part came outta nowhere lmao
Gotta love that slick advertising hahahahah
I don't get this meme. Who asks permission to speak?
@@Scroteydada it's just like saying "no one asked." When someone says something completely random and off topic. The meme's a bit tired but it's weird to say you don't get it. Unless you were just trying to be relatable to get likes..
@@corbans5796 but this is exactly on topic though.
MCU Spidey is pushing the character to new places and I’m excited to see what they do with him.
What new places is he being pushed? Wtf you mean comic Peter parker made his own suit, actually loved and mentioned Uncle Ben which this one does not, the best part about MCU Peter Parker is when he is in suit, out of it he is a reactive character not proactive.
MysteryBounty ah here we go
MysteryBounty did...did you miss the ENTIRE SCENE in Far From Home dedicated to Peter designing and constructing his own suit? That argument doesn’t work anymore bud. I’ll give you Uncle Ben, but in my opinion he’s the prime motivator for Peter BECOMING a hero, not the prime motivator in all storylines going forward. So it’s not necessary to have him in all Spider-Man stories. And he’s not proactive when he’s not in the suit? That’s just straight up false. There are a several scenes in Far From Home where he goes after things when he’s not in the suit. He pursues his interest in MJ tirelessly throughout the film. And if that’s not enough to be considered “proactive,” you could make the same argument about Tobey and Andrew’s Spider-Men too, btw. “They only react to the villains or the struggles in their lives”. So? That’s what most of us do, as humans.
@@FearingVirus I think they are unsatisfied because he had Starks tech
grayson which boggles my mind because Peter has received technology from other people in nearly ALL his iterations. Whether it’s Doc Ock, Doc Connors, Osborn, Horizon Labs, or Tony Stark, he receives help and tech in a TON of his stories. The only one that he doesn’t is the Raimi films, which opted to COMPLETELY ignore the technological side of the character. Doc Ock LITERALLY designed peters new suit in PS4, and yet NOBODY complained about that the same way they complain about MCU Spider-Man. It’s this weird double standard about the MCU interpretation.
That fight scene where peter is in multiple layers of illusions made me feel like i was gonna barf
10/0 movie, loved every moment of it
You can't have 10/0 YOU CAN'T DIVIDE BY ZERO, You fool, you'll kil us all
@@ricardoalves9605 It's a typo, calm down lol
@@maleehadamda6814 it was a joke calm down lol
@@jamesiitaylor7709 bruh just a joke, calm down lol
@@kurumakawaii5307 bruh calm down it was just a joke lol
I love this movie so much glad you liked it to Mr Midnight
"There should be a 'Captain' in there somewhere."
Patrick PFC looking cool Peter
HYUNJIN JOE I understood that reference
EIGA!
Oh come on, he didn’t become a captain just to have people call him “Mr”....smh
Mcu Spider-Man is the most fun and refreshing version to me. Tom Holland finally captures his boyhood demeanor with a supporting story that makes us feel like a high school kid who is struggling with the responsibility of the world.
Except he's been in five movies, had many battles, had tragic losses and he still acts like an irresponsible child.
@@rainstrmds canonically he's 16 years old... and I'd say his childishness is a cornerstone of his character he'll never lose and never should, that's the point of Spiderman.
@@Atimix1 If you send a child off to war, they grow up pretty fast. Peter has fought thugs, murderers, organized crime, other superheroes, the supervillains Vulture and Shocker and then Thanos. He has seen tragedy and loss with Ben, Liz, War Machine, the Snap and Tony's death. He lives in a post-snap world that he is partially responsible for. And he still hasn't grown up or matured. His character arc is very flat. All he's done is complain about superhero responsibility and try to avoid it. The immature, childish Peter doesn't make sense after five films.
@@rainstrmds if you haven't seen growth in his character that's on you, MCU Peter has come a far way from his origin but his personality- isn't ever going to change. The theme of tackling responsibility will always be the theme in all of his movies.
@@WrathofFenrir99 he gave it up because he genuinely felt that he wasn't the right person to be the next Iron Man. For a sixteen-year-old, passing off the responsibility to someone you feel is more capable is actively a mature decision. You think Homecoming Peter would have made that decision? From that one action alone, you can tell that he's grown.
I am really amazed, how they brought everything together. It feels like Spider-man always belonged in the mcu. Far From Home is one of the best, if not the best movie of the mcu!
Finally, there's actually a genuine positive review I can agree to!
I went to see Far From Home last week.
And on the way home, I wanted to turn around, go back, and see it again.
What did you think of Far From Home? Better than Homecoming or no?
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Yeah.
Way better than Homecoming!
better
Spectacular
Better than homecoming
Totally
Matt Murdock representing Peter Parker in the future??? Anyone? No? Okay…
Josh Hendley god that would be great
That would be funny considering how Matt has gone through something similar in the comics.
YESSSS!
Seems like both are out of the MCU :'v
@@jponchor9792 ive got good news for you....
YESS, this is exactly what I want people to understand about Holland’s spiderman. Thank you!
This needs to be sent to HiTop. Get his head screwed on right.
Robert Consola
Yes, because anyone that doesn’t love Iron Boy Jr. is totally not right...
Raphael Adôrno Did you not listen to a thing he said in the video?
@@rigatonipasta nope i still found his point more "legit"
@@joeblaze2235 Idk really. I was hearing a lot of "I want this" instead of just accepting what we had been given. A lot of people compare HiTop and Midnight (more Midnight to be honest) to the Cosmonaut Variety Hour. He, apart from his controversial Raimi video that still has more likes than dislikes, has pretty agreeable opinions. He actually finds a lot of the MCU kind of mediocre, which I respect. He obviously has read his fair share of comics (not like the others haven't), and knows his shit. He said in his ASM and Spider-Verse reviews that he tries to look at things from a comic perspective AND a movie perspective. HiTop seems to be missing the mark a tiny bit. I watched his video (I cringed) and I couldn't quite put my finger on the point he was trying to make. I'm sick of "blah blah Raimi this, blah blah Raimi that". HiTop seemed to be trying to balance the two genres like Cosmonaut, but the scales kept tipping in one direction or another, both times being completely negative. It's hard to take seriously someone who doesn't know the point they are trying to make. Cosmonaut bases his reviews by saying what he liked, then what he didn't like. Not what could've been better (most of the time, but for REALLY shitty things he proposes better ideas) He then finishes his videos by giving a score, of which most of the MCU got like a 6-7/10. I watch and subscribe to people who cover all bases. I don't subscribe to people that are quite narrowminded.
This MJ isn't even supposed to be a re-imagining of the original MJ, she's a completely different character that they gave the same initials to for nostalgia's sake
Zeldafan2007 it would be funny if they added her in the future along with Black Cat. Although I hope he gets together with Black Cat, since he’s already been with MJ and Gwen and it’d be nice for a difference in change
@@ajwsings they're doing things different because they didn't want to introduce things we've seen before so I dont think she's coming , we've already got an MJ , we don't need another one , just saying
@@oisinreilly2639 AGREED. I'm not a fan of love triangles before they're always so bland and annoying. I love the chemistry between Zendaya and Tom Holland. Hope they don't change it up
@@oisinreilly2639 agreed
Eh, not nostalgia. Quite the opposite, actually. They take this thing we know, and "haha expectation go flip"
I loved this one way more than homecoming.
After seeing so many other TH-camrs being disappointed in FFH, (HiTop Films, Browntable, etc.) It's a nice change of pace to see someone that genuinely enjoyed the film as much as I did.
I appreciate that, thanks.
I do respect criticism but... there's just so many people that are disappointed with this movie... I also appreciate it though. Finally someone who actually enjoys the movie for how it is.
Apparently "Two channels = So many"
@@z7983 someone doesn't understand the concept of "etc."
@@TBGHydreigon I did, you just made it seem like SO MANY youtubers are disliking the movie when there's only just a handful. Majority of the people love it.
Browntable actually enjoyed the movie, he was just disappointed.
*Thanos:* REALITY CAN BE WHATEVER I WANT...
*Mysterio:* _Watch and learn, Purple Grape!!!_
@@xx_megamate_xx2508 despacito 2 already came out
This is exactly how thanos shouldve used reality stone
Mysterio: hold my fishbowl
Good joke
If he ever got his hands on a the reality stone, it would be a wrap for everyone
its crazy how everyone loved this movie when it came out but now for some reason everyone is criticizing it just because they want to compare spiderman with spiderman. doesn’t matter if its tobey or andrew or andrew and tom. No way home truly showed all of them are equal and all of them are great.
exactly
I loved when spider man was swinging threw the city
Put a smile on my face that made me feel so nostalgia
"He literally died for half of living people... no one can live up to that."
Black Widow: Huh?
Black widow:
dude! if i didnt die, tony cant save the universe, so that means, i m the one who save the universe..
Stop all these nonsense, the rat saved the universe
Far From Home was honestly the best Spiderman film in a long time.
Spiderverse exists tho
@@saga6462 Well, I didn't like that movie and FFH was better, so my original comments still stands.
@@saga6462 i like spider-verse but far from home >>>>>
@@crod9905 so you're saying SV wasn't good because you didn't like it?
That's not good evidence
@@skeletoncrew6500 It's not evidence of anything, it's my opinion. I thought that was clear enough.
Mysterio is the best villain in the MCU. Change my mind.
Finally we get a guy who is just a bad dude. His motivations? Totally selfish. Caring about the people? No chance. Respect for the man who beat him? Nope, I'll get the last laugh.
Mysterio is a 'character', even as Quentin Beck. And that's true to the comics. He's larger than life because that's what Beck always wanted: to be seen, to be noticed.
And he's dangerous. Oh man is he dangerous. Accepting for a second the low odds of him fooling actual Fury, he still duped Talos, an actual shapeshifter.
Even after his position as a supervillain is revealed, something he was desperate to avoid at all costs, and arguably his greatest strength (his anonymity) was lost, he still manages to dominate spiderman in a fight by manipulating him completely.
Hell, even when Spiderman builds his own suit, comes up with a counterplan, takes Mysterio by suprise and even uses his most overpowered superpower to its fullest, Mysterio still wins.
Fight me on that too. Now Mysterio is known the world over as a hero. Spiderman is someone desperate for Iron Man's position, and willing to kill as a result, whilst being in control of the most military might on the planet. Oh yeah, and he's a high schooler.
It's everything he wanted. And he got it. Compare that to Toomes, who's still in jail. Mysterio is he villain who actually WINS.
"The humour comes from the characters, not just a cheap gag" Flashbacks to the teacher bumbling around taking a photo and dropping his camera at Venice
Or peter yelling “GUYS LOOK, A BABY GOAT!” And everyone dramatically turns around long enough for peter to do a backflip out of the bus and destroy a drone
I feel like the teacher bumbling around fit his character. Earlier in the movie it was kinda established that he was a weirdo, with his wife having left him etc, so it fit his character
Pretty sure that comes from the character. The dude is a goof lmao
A lot of people didn’t like the teachers. But I fucking loved it, it was so pathetic that I just laughed at all of it
@laz kar the problem for me was that the "funny manner" felt cheap and too looney tunes to fit imo
Super glad (and very jealous) that you connected with the movie! Loved hearing your perspective on MCU Spidey.
HiTop Films you sounded like you were gonna cry at the end of your video
Your take on it, and especially the criticisms, I can agree with. Especially when you talk about Peter's uncle, Ben. We only got small references of him, but not a direct reference or image or anything of him that directly impacts Peter.
That being said, I think you are looking too much into this Spiderman. He's the MCU version. Not everything will be comic-book accurate or Raimi-accurate.
Nonetheless, I did understand your criticisms of the movie. I respect that.
HiTop Films when’s the diss track dropping?
yeah couldnt connect either I mean it was fun and all but spidey vs drones isnt really my thing
Enjoy your videos man.
No he didnt die for half of all life on earth. He died for half of all life in the UNIVERSE
But the people on Earth didn't know that.
no he dies for ALL life in the whole universe. Thanos was about to wipe all living creatures from the universe and start over
@@accountmm7443 very true
@@accountmm7443 There it is, what I came to say.
Actually died for the entire universe... Cause Thanos said he would tear this universe down to it's last atom.
4:15 The convenient fact that all the gang were snapped in the blip had a really nice subtle nod in Infinity War. When they're on the school bus and Peter asks the fat friend for a distraction, and he then sees the donut spacecraft and says "oh God _WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE"._ In hindsight it's pretty blatant.
I also love how people are calling out this for being convenient but didn’t find it a little convenient that all of the OG avengers from the first one just happened to stay alive for endgame lol
@@virtualboy3596 It wasn't convenience -- It's tied in to its theme of fate and destiny.
I don't even think it's that convenient that they all got snapped. When you have a group as big as half the literal universe for the snap to affect, it's not even that unlikely that they all got snapped.
I've already seen the movie, it's a blast and I like it more than homecoming beacuse it makes Peter Parker and Spider-man clash together and in this clash Peter Parker grows understanding his responsibilities now that Iron Man is gone and I think it's absolutely awesome
No it's not like that at all lol if it was it would be the best film put of them all
@@yungblade7 wut
Saved PirateOfGod How? Hes right
Antonio Pio Russolillo only thing is this Spiderman is still acting like a child not a grown Spiderman.
@@vishansilva8546 yeah, i like the idea cuz, in the OG comics he is 15-16 peter in a long time and in the raimi films and amazing Spiderman they already finished their high school... (sry for my English).
This is honestly my favorite Spider-Man film.
Same here, and to be honest its in my top3 of every marvel avangers movie
Agreed! It feels more like a legit Spider-Man story rather than an Avengers-based Spidey story.
biggie321hp spiderverse >>>>>
Sameee 🙌🏼💜
Uhhh ok.
People need to understand that Tom Holland Spider-Man was different than the other Spider-Man it's just his universe takes place with the Avengers were it makes sense that he has a mentor and someone like Iron Man is Totally understandable, I prefer Tobey Maguire but I prefer Tom Holland over Andrew Garfield so yeah I actually like MCU Spider-Man.
@@ericschnautz6603Ah yes, he shoots electricity out of his hands and goes invisible. He became Spider-Man because Peter Parker died. No, Mcu Peter is not Miles. He’s more of a mix of ultimate Peter and Miles.
@@ericschnautz6603 Agree to disagree, I guess.
@@Webhead19_62 miles morales is the young energetic social spider man with a young hot mom who was more or less middle class.
Peter is usually the angsty loner trying to pay rent and make sure aunt may is happy.
@@dope8878 Don’t really wanna argue though.
@@dope8878 But yes, I’m aware. Aunt May isn’t his mom though, and uncle Ben wasn't working for S.H.I.E.L.D, if we’re talking about MCU Spider-Man. Peter in the comics was also young and energetic when he became Spider-Man.
What I loved was the fact that he was finally independent in this movie. Sure, his new suit is still made with Stark tech, but still, *he made it himself.* No one built this new suit for him, he finally got to make his own gear.
he didn't though
Shea Lupkes he did though
Yeah, but he still had nick and happy to help him
Gingercat 59 nick I'm okay with
@@gingercat5996 no
Far from home I thought was WAY better than Homecoming
I loved Homecoming and I agree that FFH was way better.
I thought the complete opposite.
😐this movie is trush
@@heronation6162 One man's "trush" is another man's "truusure"
Agreed.
It gave us Zombie Iron Man, how did you not mention zombie frigging ironman?!
That part was crazy and cool at the same time!!😎
I want a failed Spider Man kiss with MJ, because it is an iconic kiss and want it to be included but I want it to fail because this Peter is not smooth enough to pull it off, MJ is kind of awkward too. I love both of them like this, so dorky and relatable.
DJHart yeah i’m tired of this whole “peter parker is a dork who is awkward 24/7 and doesn’t know how to be a person” when that’s literally never been how the character is meant to be. when peter has the mask on he’s supposed to be more confident and comfortable doing everything, which is why he quips
@@deanmoriarty6015 Plus, in the 90's cartoon at least, he really never had trouble getting the ladies. Going off-topic, but watching the first episode of the cartoon and comparing that to The Amazing Spider-Man, I'm sure they were basing Andrew Garfield's character on the cartoon.
@@deanmoriarty6015 No. I agree that he is more confident and comfortable, but he's stated that he quips in order to help alleviate situations and make him less stressed when fighting crime.
Even though I enjoyed Homecoming, I thought Far From Home was a far better film. I thought Peter's arc was interesting, Mysterio was a really good villain, and the mid-credit scene was one of the best in the entire MCU franchise. It made me excited to see what Marvel Studios will have in store for Spider-Man in his next movie.
Loved the movie. Not perfect, but no movie is. I think this film is better than homecoming.
Far better than Homecoming imho
There's something I like about Homecoming's focus, but... even the action blows it out of the water.
This was so good it made me like Homecoming more
@connextro
Nah, Spider-Man 2 has some pretty big flaws that you can't ignore
I absolutely loved Spider-Man: Far From Home. It was so different from Homecoming, and I liked that one, but this one is just so good. It was very creative and that illusion scene was amazing!!
I really enjoyed the movie, and even if you don’t like *this* Spiderman you have to admit this movie is fun to watch
ButterflyColors Agreed it’s fun to watch although for me the writers ruined this Spider-Man
Some people are simply impossible to please. Anyone that’s using the whole Iron Man thing as a reason to not like these Spider Man movies needs to just stop. There isn’t a single superhero movie ever made that is 100% accurate to the comic books. So what if his Spidey suit is high tech Stark equipment. In order for Spider-Man to do all sorts of different things with his webs (like he’s always done in comics) then it needs to be pretty advanced. And it doesn’t make much sense that he’d be capable of creating his suit without Starks tech. It’s not like he’s flying around firing missiles like he’s Iron Man... The fact that I’m even having to defend this is ridiculous.
I guess they only like Watchmen and Sin City
@@bungski2234
Don't forget Spider-Man 2 and The Dark Knight
Aka a bunch of whiny nerds who value movies mostly for the nostalgia than the actual content
I honestly rank FFH above Spider-Man 2...
Agreed
@@InhabitantOfOddworld Me too.
People want him to be broke but at the same time want him to build all his stuff out of thin air... Like bruh maybe that stuff happened only in the comics for a reason. Even the Raimi trilogy avoided Peter making his own webshooters, and you don't see Raimi fans complain about that nowadays.
Wow what a complete opposite of Hitops review lol
Yeah me and Alex obviously had very different takes on this one, I definitely respect his opinion though.
captainmidnight
Alex and I*
@@Wysteria ARE GONNA HAVE A HELLUVA TIME!
SebasTheNerd HiTopsFilms makes great videos, has a lot of awesome ideas, and is obviously a very passionate fan. That being said, he’s super nitpicky and enjoying his videos is such a hit or miss for me. His Far From Home video comes off more as someone who just wants MCU Peter to be a direct rip from the comics which was obviously not the case almost right away as he was introduced as a hero that is almost Tony Stark’s sidekick. Yet he still wants him to return to being a more faithful depiction but that’s just not what he is.
TLDR; Alex needs to learn how to have fun with a different take on the character.
HiTop was bound to not like it. It's no surprise.
I've been waiting for your thoughts. Personally, I really LOVED this one. They've somehow managed to break the curse from the runs of Sony, which just had a steep decline in quality across both series. Here, they somehow made the second installation better than the first.
Daniel Jensen
Still surprised how Sony made into the spiderverse after making the emoji movie, damn Sony is improving!
@@bread9132 You do realise this is Marvel making this movie, right? Sony has simply given permission for them to do so, as they still own the rights to the franchice. Besides slapping their name on it, Sony has nothing to do with this movie.
@@Dozer4200 Right, but they were referring to how Sony did Into the Spider-Verse right after The Emoji Movie and both are of vastly different quality
@@LeopoldLitchenstein Oooh, I haven't seen Spider-verse yet. I think I have to at this point. People generally say nice things about it.
@@Dozer4200 It's a must watch. Absolute joy from start to finish and the animation style is incredibly unique
Finally someone who doesnt say this movie is bad just because peter parker doesnt have money problems
SHREDDER_915, oh, yeah, a 16 year old is definitely going to have that and it’s so appropriate given what he faced 8 months ago
He had to sell his lego collection to pay for the trip AND get MJ that necklace. So he DOES have money problems, they're just not talked about.
i fuckin love this movie and im a raimi DIEHARD,. so that says a lot
Loved it too!
Nick Coccia Pizza time
HiTops Films: I am inevitable.
Captain Midnight: And I....am....Captain Midnight.
*SNAP*
With Spider-Man’s unique, yet highly underrated character arc within the MCU, it’s becoming more and more apparent how both those two films are heavily based on the early works of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko’s Spider-Man comics in showing the different phases Peter has as he grew up
In Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017), Peter was still a boy. He’s already been through the major life-changing turn of events earlier that year such as the radioactive spider bite that granted him superpowers, and the death of his uncle due to Peter’s selfishness that haunts the shit out of him to this day and ultimately drove him to the path of heroism. But this time around, after his scene-stealing appearance in Civil War where he met all of his favorite superheroes for the first time, we’re exploring the life of Peter Parker and his overall character. He's going around solving low level crimes, he's immature, impatient, childish, and relatively new to everything. His double life as Spider-Man isn't dramatic, it's therapeutic and it’s comedic. He keeps losing his backpack, he gets caught in his Spidey suit, his shenanigans lead him to getting detention, and had his tech suit taken away, which is equivalent to a parent taking away their kid’s phone. The world is constantly beating him to his knees and his sense of self worth as a superhero is based on the Avengers (mostly Tony Stark). It isn't until he's in the rubble that he starts to look inward calling on his strength as Spider-Man to save himself because he isn't defined by a fancy suit, he's defined by his actions. It’s where he truly becomes Spider-Man
In Spider-Man: Far From Home (2019), Peter is starting to fully transition out of boyhood and becomes a young man. He has let go of his first crush and has moved onto a new love he finds in MJ, not because of how she looks or vague descriptions of her just being "the best", but because he likes who she is as a person. He is now in a world where the heroes are scattered as the Avengers appear to be disbanded after the 5 year gap and the events of Endgame. But he's still trying to hold onto a few things by looking for some other hero to look up to so he can have guidance. He has grown out of his desire to be in the big leagues because he's seen the kind of struggle that brings, and his self doubt makes him feel like he isn't up to the challenge. He isn’t quitting being Spider-Man out of fear, he is just trying to remain the rookie he was when Tony first recruited him because the times were much simpler back than (we've all had moments when we wish we could go back to being kids, less responsibilities, etc). It isn't until he learns Mysterio is a fraud and is given words of affirmation from Happy regarding the pedestal the world (Peter included) put Tony on, that he rises to the challenge and proves his capabilities not only to others, but to himself. Happy basically explains to Peter Parker that the superheroes that he idolizes (specifically Stark) have flaws and imperfections as well. Tony Stark was flawed, fallible, and struggles with self-doubt much like Peter. The whole point of “the next Iron Man” thing isn’t for Peter to literally become Iron Man, but they want to make Spider-Man as popular of a superhero as Iron Man once was. Kevin Fiege is building Spider-Man up to be the greatest superhero the MCU has ever seen. Spider-Man will create a legacy of his own that’ll eventually overshadow Captain America and Iron Man’s legacies. That’s what the whole movie is about. Iron Man was the face of the MCU, and now Spider-Man is the new face of the MCU. He wasn't alongside other heroes facing the drone army, he was on his own, he used his own intuition, and his own natural superpowers bested upon him from that fateful spider bite to defeat Mysterio and save the day, reigning absolutely victorious.
From what we can see in this year’s Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021), Peter's life is becoming more and more dramatic. The consequences he faces have gone from detention to being framed for murder. His double life is now becoming more conflicting as he tries to hang onto the few good things he's gotten (I have a feeling the end of the movie will have Strange complete the spell properly and the entire world forgets his identity, including his friends and Aunt May). He even starts to step away from saying "sir" because he is no longer the rookie. He has proven his worth and his place among the hero community, he is facing bigger enemies, and he is facing it alone (for the most part).
There is a clear arc for MCU Peter as we watch him grow from a boy to a (Spider-) man. And it’s annoying as hell when people call him “Iron Boy Jr” just because Spidey wasn’t in his prime (physically and mentally) immediately after becoming Spider-Man. While I disagree with some changes they made with the character, I freaking love MCU Spider-Man. His character arc is just awesome to me. Marvel & Sony are actually taking their time to develop their Spider-Man into the Spider-Man we know and love. And depending on how No Way Home performs this Christmas, we can be assured that his fun hero adventures will continue in his possible second trilogy.
You have no idea how happy your comment made me. There's so much negativity arround Tom's Spider-Man that it's honestly overwhelming.
This aged nicely.
Its nice to see someone else was paying attention to what Marvel was doing with Spider-Man.
If Peter is already "Spider-Man" at 16 years old..then the writers have failed us.
Let’s be honest FFH didn’t really develop his character as great as the movie was it was basically the same as Homecoming
Another prop I have to give this movie is Tom Holland’s acting. He really conveys all of Peters emotions.
So who's up for a Spider-Man Ant Man & the Wasp team up movie?
let me just get my bugspray ready
I won't ready to watch the mid end credits
@@rizkiaakil5508 Lmao, both movies had INSANE mid credits scenes
1Dreamking They need more teamup movies that are separate from solo and Avengers movies. Like, having movies dedicated to specific characters teaming up like that.
(And they could play with the fact that they fought against eachother in Cap: Civil War. Well not the Wasp but... She could be more like the "grown up" in the team with Ant-Man and Spider-Man trying to outwit eachother with jokes etc)
And ofc we get a good reason to see Luis again!!! (Michael Peña)
Another amazing movie I can't wait to see again! I honestly have trouble picking between Homecoming and Far From Home, they're both my favorite mcu movies
Awsomeisme1233 AJ
My favorite of the two is far from home, homecoming was great but I felt that it was not as serious as far from home
IMO Homecoming had a slightly better Peter Parker story, but Far From Home had the better Spider-Man story and the crazier action scenes to sell it.
They’re awesome movies, but nothing will ever dethrone Endgame, followed by infinity war. Those two will be my personal best movies since movies exist.
I also think it's worth mentioning how tongue in cheek the teen dramedy aspect is - the writing is very self aware, and uses this genre to tell us more about Parker's character.
If teen romance isn't your thing, Spiderman's not your thing either
Finally was waiting for your review for so long CAPTAAAAIN MIDNIIIIGHT
This Movie was Spectacular and I refuse to have someone attempt to convince me otherwise! That being said, fantastic video dude
Oh boy your going to have to fight hitop.
Captain midnight vs HiTop: dawn of the webbing
throw my boy cosmonaut in there too.
Solid Snake HiTop is a good youtuber with an excellent grasp of Spider Man and what makes the character.
Sharklover007 that’s all of TH-cam though
Why? HiTop literally said that he’s okay with and respects peoples opinions about the movie.
Gotta love how quickly people love to instigate drama/fights.
some call me tim I never said that I just think mcu fanboys and haters should be forced to see both sides of the argument
Villain: *destroys everything and tries to murder everyone
Villain: Ya know, I blame Tony Stark for all of this.
I loved it mostly just because of the mysterio scenes. I'm a sucker for trippy dream sequences
Same! That was a great scene.
God damn it I want Kraven to be in the next Spider-man movie so bad, and if they popped Jon Bernthal in there as The Punisher as well that'd be insane.
Ricardo Webb they probably won’t because Sony wants to make a solo Kraven movie
Governments could hire him to hunt spidey
I think the next villain would be scorpion as in the homecoming post credit scene he appeared talking to vulture in the raft or rykers
I think this is the best Spider-Man movie so far. It's funny, serious... great villain, one of the best MCU villains of all times (Marvel really learned their lesson and is doing a great job with the villains now). It had me the whole time trying to figure out Beck, "Is he pretending? He looks so genuine. Maybe something will happen to make he evil?" and I loved the reveal. I loved the teen comedy/romance.
It had a similar beat with Spider-Man wanting to just have a normal life, Raimi's second Spider-Man had, but I think this was done better. Peter never actually threw away the costume so to speak... but was reluctant to being spider. Which I think is a better way to show that, than to make Peter walk away from someone being beaten to death.
And JK Simmons. It was the cherry on top of a great movie... with a great cliff-hanger. I like that secret identities are not that important in the MCU.
lets be real, spider man 2 is great but is memorable purely for doc ock and the train scene. that's it.
also Peter struggling (which I could probably break into 4 more pieces)
Harry without his father and a vendetta against spiderman
If the masterpiece into the spiderverse didn't exist far from home would easily be my favourite spiderman movie.
Get a load of this correct opinion
I’m sad that HiTop didn’t like this film but I can tell the reasoning he had really hits his heart. I may not really agree with them, but what I can do is everyone has their own opinions and experiences that I haven’t experienced.
everyone can have their own opinion but nobody has to give a shit
“I love Led Zeppelin!”
Every in the theater is laughing but I’m crying because I’ve watched Iron Man
And you just assumed you were the only one that watched Iron man. Wow.
No, literally everyone in the theater was just seeing it because of their kids. You could tell because they weren’t paying attention.
Nobody in our theatre got the joke, me included, till someone explained it in another comment. I could tell it probably was a joke, just from the pacing, but I didn't get it. At least they still put in some fun goodies for the parents and stuff that are dragged to the theaters though!
Every movie I’ve ever went to in my city, the audience has never actually reacted to anything. But when I watch the movie out of town, the audience is fun.
@@clodcollecting51 Hahah yeah, I live in the country so the audience is usually pretty open to actually reacting to movies, that's why I'm pretty sure they didn't get the joke - cause they laughed at the other ones.
I guess in cities you're so used to keeping your guard up around strangers that it just kind of bleeds into other things?
I enjoyed the film but at the same time have lots of problems with it.
But Mysterio
Him I adored
Grimmijaggers Mysterio was so good but he was sadly wasted
Sidney J. Duffy think that he was good or wasted?
@@ollytherev2957 how was he wasted
I think the movie was just OK. Mysterio was a great villain but a lot of the movie just didn’t seem right to me.
AR K he was killed off in his first appearance and I feel like his whole backstory has been done before
Back in Black Plays
"Oh, I love Led Zepplin"
*Tony somehow dies again from disappointment*
Ffh was my favourite spider-man idc what anyone says
Thank you Captain Midnight finally somebody praises this movie. I have literally heard multiple channels called his movie terrible like hi-top films, the amazing super Mike but I'm glad somebody thought this was a perfect movie I mean I thought it was awesome.
Why do you think this is a perfect movie?
@@seymourskinner5968 Probably for the reasons made in the video.
@CYB3R2K30 all of the movie is absolutely hilarious, and there isn't even Mr. Stark in the movie, he's already dead. Iron Man was an icon, one of the greatest heroes in the world in this universe, of course they're gonna have to deal with the repercussions of his tragic self-sacraficious death. Did you not watch the movie?
We've all been waiting so long for a Sinister Six movie adaption and i hope the MCU finally covers it
With the elemental monsters, I felt we were already there!
I think it would be difficult... handling six vilains interestingly and adequatly in a single movie, it's difficult. Even the Spider-man game, which was great in its own way, didn't really cover the Sinister Six with depth despite not having the time constraint movies have.
DIERSTEIN Julien The Avengers already proved a large cast can work. I would put all my focus on the sinister six and give Spider-Man as much screen time as Loki got in Avengers.
Naaah SONY wanna do that... without Spiderman.
All depends what version will this team be
The Skrull reveal at the end made some of the scenes of Fury and Hill make more sense in hindsight. Like, when Peter was spouting off all of the multiverse science stuff they looked surprised. Real Fury and Hill probably wouldn't have been surprised at all, knowing that Peter went to space and met Dr Strange etc.
I wanted to punch Mysterio in his stupid fishbowl head after seeing him psychologically tormenting Peter. What a fucking villain.
God, I love him.