No more stakes in the game... Does care still arise?... Fear is deeply ingrained... Inquiry?

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  • @BLCKSQR
    @BLCKSQR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    a beautiful chat, thank you. the thing that i have found tough is not being able to relate the disidentification of self to "others", even though this seems less and less important. just "being", in total freedom, is the most incredible thing (or non thing) that sometimes you want to tell the world, or at least your partner and the ones closest to you. then as soon as you conceptualise the non-conceptual it gets lost immediately. and then all you can "do" is just simply be. and its so beautiful. but it goes against everything else, and at times you feel completely alone. which is also beautiful. but for the mind, its the loss of everything. magnificent and totally free

    • @valentinagerlsma2767
      @valentinagerlsma2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      this is so frikkin on point like I’ve written it myself. I love you

    • @BLCKSQR
      @BLCKSQR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      well there truly is no separation between "us". there is only love :)

    • @Penguyen86
      @Penguyen86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      To me it sounds like you are describing a self that’s trying to have control. The more fundamental self that’s observing this self which you are describing will slowly be more and more in the forefront of your perception. Eventually the self you’re describing will be another “thing” that comes and goes.

    • @BLCKSQR
      @BLCKSQR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Penguyen86 you're right. "me" always wants control and knows no other way of operating. this hasn't completely dissolved, but its mostly seen through and recognised as the illusion that it is.

  • @75accamargo
    @75accamargo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Thank you both for sharing this conversation ❤

  • @dogoshin9337
    @dogoshin9337 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you

  • @jamil1418
    @jamil1418 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i completely understand you both

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How cool is that?
      That a clumsy expression of truths and experiences that always elude description can actually lead to complete understanding.
      Amazing.
      Thanks for saying this…
      🙏🏼🫥💫

  • @yasminel-hakim4348
    @yasminel-hakim4348 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    it’s so good to see and hear you Suzanne 🙏❤️
    Thank you both for sharing your conversation.
    So wonderful.

  • @deni0404
    @deni0404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Mmmm healthy beautiful detachment. “Be in the world but not of the world” “you” “don’t conform any longer to the patterns & behaviors of this world, but are transformed by the renewing of the mind”

  • @natanunorthodox
    @natanunorthodox 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    21:33 He gets it ◑
    18:32 says everything...it doesn't need to be any more than what it already is now. All else added is conditioning and programming of thinking what we "should" or "shouldn't" do for others expectations of us. No need to take it any further than what is expressed now. Like he said, the programmed mind is in everything, and only so few know it or even talk about it.

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You get it, too.
      Thanks for sharing your insights.
      How blessed I feel, at 66 years old, to be getting to have these conversations that get beneath and go beyond a life so often lived within that veil of frustration!
      🙏🏼🔥💙🫥🐣

    • @ItApproaches
      @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, at best guess to all enlightened nobodies, there's probably only a couple dozen enlightened nobodies on the planet at any moment.

  • @MatichekYoutube
    @MatichekYoutube 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I think, when the whole world (and universe) is integrated, devotion becomes a natural thing, yes, it is love but without feelings, just pure "I see you" feeling and appreciation of the moment and whole situation.

  • @poolboy2447
    @poolboy2447 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you for sharing Suzanne.

  • @Lulubear0304
    @Lulubear0304 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    An honor to listen the this conversation ❤🙏🏽 thank you

    • @johnnyr19026
      @johnnyr19026 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes! 🙏

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    "Fear is the fire under the ass of humanity." Jed McKenna. Essentially all that fear is a tool used to push your character along that river. Makes your character move, or run around in circles.

  • @LeftTheMatrix
    @LeftTheMatrix 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you for this sharing ❤

  • @AtomkeySinclair
    @AtomkeySinclair 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I am not my foot or my hand. Nor my arms and legs. Neither my torso or head. I am not my brain. My brain is an organ that supports my mind, like my heart supports my soul. My mind is my computer that I use to deal with this place. It stores memory, takes query, and gives output. But I am also not my mind. If I were my mind, then who am I talking to when I contemplate internally? I can hear my voice inside, I can change the pitch and tone, motive and intent. But I am not that voice. That voice is derived from language - something I've learned while here, which is imprecise compared to my authentic self. I struggle to put into words that which defies words, for in wording what I know taints the quality of its perfection. What I used to believe is illusion. All is false, and what is in front of me at all levels of perception are placed in checkmate. My reality is obliterated. My inner voice is silent, and I can stay in a state of no noise in my mind where now I can listen for that inexplicable presence that has no sound, no dimension, no intent, nor direction, and no domain for spoken language either in my mind or by my mouth. I must communicate in the original in order to receive new information. I realize I already know what I would want to say in my mind's ear, I have to completely comprehend what I am going to say out loud or internally before I form the words. Why then waste time with the cumbersomeness of language when thought is faster than the fastest speed known to mankind? So fast in fact, it travels backward in time (also illusion) and unravels every detail of my existence into perfect clarity. Ever struggle becomes divine providence - one infinitely long loving push here and there - so that I now say. I am. The duality of speaking a lie is held in constant check against what has been revealed. For in misdirection I am responsible for those that have yet to come, and I am accountable to those who have gone before me - for now I seek them out as teachers, as also I become the teacher for those seeking. My responsibility is enormous and no one may boast - for there is no ego in this place that I have also come from. Now I have learned to listen properly. I have died to myself and it is an utter impossibility to return to my former way. I am the being I was and always will be. My body is what I drive around in this place. It will no longer receive data from this place. All of my data comes from the other - for now on and ever more, just as eternity contains everlasting. I used to have faith. Faith gave me hope. From that I believed. All of what I believed is obliterated from what I now know which defeats the necessity for faith any longer. All of mystery is revealed. Nearly hourly I have new knowledge, and I seek to stay in it, and it's sublime beyond compare of anything in this place. The journey is new, as they day I were born. But I am able to keep all my former knowledge of this place aside. My fellow human beings are just like I am. Yet they sleep. I cannot wake them. The other can and will - when the person is ready. Thank you for sharing your content. I hope others on the threshold find it. In fact, we know they will...

  • @annemarieslee7720
    @annemarieslee7720 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Good to see you Suzanne! Love from scotland ❤

  • @autumngrace8541
    @autumngrace8541 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    There is empathy, there is care to not deliberately harm another in any way: physically, emotionally or spiritually, however, there is no care about what another may say or do toward the "false self" that used to be identified with. Most people only know the false self and its identity and to experience it as that.

    • @FredEmpty
      @FredEmpty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just out of curiosity, was it difficult to let go of the self. Even around "your" family friends etc.

  • @Hi_how_r_u_
    @Hi_how_r_u_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    'it's seen for what it is, it's used as a functional tool'
    Another nondual teacher affirmed this by saying realization is about the ego taking a backseat so to speak. It doesn't dissappear. The body, the mind, the individual is seen to be only a fragment of the 'real self'

  • @macparker3549
    @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Thank you, Suzanne. It’s an honor to know you, and a blessing every single time we sit down to talk.
    🙏🏼🫥🌻
    Mac

  • @TheMLMGold
    @TheMLMGold 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Non neediness can only come from love of God. It allows true love and care without being invested in outcomes.

  • @Hi_how_r_u_
    @Hi_how_r_u_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I'm starting to believe realization is WAY easier than i first imagined it to be. Man i've been through fucking hell already so it's a big relief even considering liberation as a possibility let alone something that's very very doable, especially if i'd be able to consistently 'grow' in the right direction (even though liberation supposedly is not an adding onto the story/the sense of 'me' but a deeper realization where the 'i' sense either falls away completely or diminishes to a point where it no longer has the same believability by a large margin

    • @ItApproaches
      @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Eventually "you" will realize that suffering was nothing to bad and you'll laugh at it. Might even find the realization of "Hmm...yeah, I'd go through that shit again if I could, doesn't matter, it was a hell of a trip, but it got to truth so can't be mad at it."

    • @Job.Well.Done_01
      @Job.Well.Done_01 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey, hope you’re doing well. I’ve been through hell also. One of the biggest things I’ve learned is that I know why I’ve been through hell now. Hoping to change it and make a decent life for however long I’m here for.
      -Best Wishes

    • @Hi_how_r_u_
      @Hi_how_r_u_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ItApproaches That's very reassuring and comforting to hear and i can imagine! I can imagine and to some degree reflect on how i/we create these scenario's, expectations or beliefs for ourselves which work against us & then situations become (more) unbearable. Not trying to say it's our 'fault' because a lot of times we don't know any better until we know better XD Much love

    • @Hi_how_r_u_
      @Hi_how_r_u_ 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Job.Well.Done_01 Bless you for making it through so far then, which isn't obvious. Only when life goes 'smooth' is it obvious to thrife & live to ripe old age, looking back at so many experiences and twists & turns. Also saying 'i've been through hell' is already more promising than 'being in hell'. So we can say at this moment we aren't (to our knowledge) in 'hell'/deeply suffering anymore. Also you say you've learned & thus gotten wiser, sharper, more resilient to deal with future problems or challenges. In this way any shit we experience can be turned into sheer competence & flourishing, which is everything i wish for you, let's make it happen & grow from 'setbacks' however big or small. Much love to you as well & thanks for sharing your words of solidarity & openness

    • @ItApproaches
      @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Hi_how_r_u_ All good.

  • @BA-ei7tl
    @BA-ei7tl 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Krishnamurti used to say..... "My secret is , I don't mind what happens."

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fear is the first building block or origin, can't build without a foundation, but it the foundation is fear, then no matter what is built up on it, will be shaky and wobbly, and it toppling down is just the big omg can't let this happen...yet all that happens is building it higher and higher....sooner or later, it all comes tumbling down.

  • @FredEmpty
    @FredEmpty 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Here, the fear of judgment is currently very strong and heavy. The care of other peoples opinions like Family, friends, heck even strangers creates a lot of suffering. It is so fkn sad. The body just wants to be still, looking in the sky or in the wall, but the mind just can't let go.
    It's like two different forces, one that can't let go (the mind), and then the body that intuitively craves stillness and peace. Just felt like sharing this, it all feels fucked up, and to care, ugh, is so heavy. The body and even the mind is tired of all this.

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Under the surface" nice nod to Alan Watts there Suzanne.

  • @injoyinmyself2018
    @injoyinmyself2018 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Before awakening, chop wood after awakening chop wood.
    Before awakening murderer after awakening murderer.

  • @darladarlading
    @darladarlading 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Would love to hear you expound on the last statement about how the mind can still get hooked on rumination.
    I think I have a belief that once you’re awake, thoughts are no longer “sticky” in that sense?

    • @Penguyen86
      @Penguyen86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Wokeness awakes to itself. Ego thinks it is awaken. Mind can do many things. Mind is a component of Wokeness.

  • @WingZeroSymphonics
    @WingZeroSymphonics 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    . 1:27, bottom line is I don't care!😄. No, but it is something nuanced that most wouldn't understand, its not that they can't either, its just that society runs mechanically, so to speak, so to bring pause, may feel like a short circuiting. Luckily, non-duality is founded on the fundamental laws of nature. So we continue.✌

  • @Californiansurfer
    @Californiansurfer 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    ❤❤. Girl are you living in Shepardville kentucky or where. I feel like you. I worked in Midwest 2012 to 2020 it was so depressing , i am back home. Downey California , I will do that again….

  • @ItApproaches
    @ItApproaches 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's not a you that cares, it's like a book's binding cares to have a story inside it. Doesn't care what the story inside it is, the story just cares for a story. Otherwise it's a blank book with no experiences.

  • @gxlorp
    @gxlorp 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whag do you think of stream entry, the stages of insight, etc. It look like you don't reply to comments. This is a shot in the dark. The context is from "pragmatic dharma" the work of Bill Hamilton, and his students Daniel Ingram and Kenneth Folk. Then the next generation, Vincent Horn. And finally reddit/StreamEntry.
    It's great to hear the "immediate" approach. Be here now. Since I got into this with the goal oriented approach.
    Thoughts¿

    • @johnlillis9931
      @johnlillis9931 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Be here now" is the ultimate technique of traditional vipassana, I'd say. My favorite voicing of the pragmatic approach is in Shargrol's Post Compilation, if you're interested.

  • @anasg007
    @anasg007 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i love you

  • @garyisaacs6526
    @garyisaacs6526 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    " no self absorbed " ! you heard it here first . . . .

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, it can seem that way.
      But, when truly experienced, it doesn’t actually turn out to be like that. At least in my experience…

  • @zatoichiable
    @zatoichiable 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the ultimate goal of people believing in non duality?

  • @dtqujtwhkxfdmcqky
    @dtqujtwhkxfdmcqky 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How can we tell who is truly enlightened /Jnani?

  • @Flying_Dutchman66
    @Flying_Dutchman66 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Never pay money to people for enlightenment promises...

  • @cmcdevitt99
    @cmcdevitt99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wonder if your love relationships are more authentic? When all sense of a self is completly gone.❤

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Well, all sense of self is not completely gone for “me,” 🤨🙃
      But YES, absolutely (!) love relationships are more authentic.
      And I find myself asking, what ISN’T a love relationship?
      🤯😎💙

    • @KK-sg5gl
      @KK-sg5gl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Are all non dualist polygamous? Free love?

    • @MacParker-hj8vq
      @MacParker-hj8vq 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@KK-sg5gl I can’t speak for anyone else, but no, that’s not what I’m referring to at all.

    • @valentinagerlsma2767
      @valentinagerlsma2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@KK-sg5glthis is what I’m curious about!!!!! in my process, the more empty of self I become the more love for EVERYONE (and everything) appears. monogamy almost feels out of fear…. but for this character there’s a lot to explore! after months of contraction I’m excited!

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Awesome place to explore from, Valentina! Might I suggest not taking anyone’s word about anything (including mine 🙃) when it comes to relationships. Hard to find an aspect of human life with more conditioning and bad advice. 🤨
      Enjoy yourself!

  • @OPTHolisticServices
    @OPTHolisticServices 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    💗🍃

  • @aiimsonairedelhi8042
    @aiimsonairedelhi8042 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey suzanne , i've been really struggling with manifesting and a lifestyle revolving around use of physical, mental, emotional and energetic alignment to bring forth the life of my dreams...i have hope that u would respond to me and guide...u r way more awakened than i am and i think ive spent hours and hours of effort within my capabilities to improve this area of my life since past 3 years but i still lack clarity due to my incompetence ...im 18 and if u guide me it would really take my life to a different direction

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      She does book private sessions, like the one this clip is excerpted from.
      And I believe she still does online groups where people can speak with her directly.
      🙏🏼🔥🐣

    • @valentinagerlsma2767
      @valentinagerlsma2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      and if you’d like free advice, there’s a community here to help you❤ if you are aware of everything that you feel resistance towards (especially pointers) is probably the best direction to go to. you want to state some questions in the chat? Much love for you❤

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Beautifully said, Valentina!
      So many people walking the walk, in so many unique ways.
      I love it when people make the kind of invitation that you are offering here…
      💙🙏🏼💫

    • @Penguyen86
      @Penguyen86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Maybe this “struggling” that are you describing is part of the manifesting of your dream life. It feels unpleasant so you label it as struggling. Instead of finding ways to avoid, get around, or speed up the struggle portion of the manifesting process, just observe it. Gather information and turn that information into useful practical action towards what you are trying to manifest. If what you are trying to manifest doesn’t come to be, be grateful because in the future you might look back and know that the 18 year old you had the wrong idea of what a dream lifestyle is.

    • @valentinagerlsma2767
      @valentinagerlsma2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@macparker3549 ❤️ love you

  • @XenosFiles
    @XenosFiles 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    You guys are still attached to personal emotions…
    Denying your emotion is the same as denying thought. Emotions are just subconscious thought patterns. Denying/avoiding/suppressing will only strengthen attachment to the thought/emotion.
    To be free from reactive thoughts and emotions, you must be committed to their loss 100%, in the face of death. Either you let go of it now, or you die now. Then transition will happen in minutes.
    It helps greatly if you know where your heart is going next. Its going outside the self, into this external moment. THIS is your heart. Feel the people and nature and material and lights. Refuse to return to personal feelings. You would rather die than return to that prison.
    This is the commitment required to awaken. Avoiding suffering will just make this commitment weaker, because suffering is what drives you to end attachment.

  • @TheMLMGold
    @TheMLMGold 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Be careful that this non duality doesn't turn you into non feeling robots. That's just numbness and denial

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It’s not about “non-feeling” for me.
      I feel more, and more deeply, than ever. What’s dissipating is the agonizing, the identifications, and the endless, repetitive looping of certain feelings.

    • @Penguyen86
      @Penguyen86 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Feelings don’t have a hold on you. Feelings don’t affect your choices. Doesn’t mean you can’t feel anymore. Feelings feel like it’s outside of you. You can see them come and go.

    • @BLCKSQR
      @BLCKSQR 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      this is a great example of the mind trying to cling to some notion of itself, anything but obliteration. don't leave me behind! you won't feel anything anymore!

    • @valentinagerlsma2767
      @valentinagerlsma2767 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      amazing comments all. I love this community. spot on❤

    • @TheMLMGold
      @TheMLMGold 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Very true guys, I am noticing more space around emotions, trauma contractions and thoughts. The radical honesty of these videos is allowing the brain to rest and unravel.

  • @a1lyhall
    @a1lyhall 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ur all so in love with the peace goal. Isnt it about time u do something else.

    • @macparker3549
      @macparker3549 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting comment.
      From this perspective, peace is not a condition that precludes other potentials…
      🤨🙃

  • @sir.willthur5428
    @sir.willthur5428 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Vague