Loudspeaker Impedance 4-Ohm vs 8-Ohm: Which is Better?

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    This TH-cam video discusses the differences between 4-ohm vs 8-ohm speakers and how it relates to performance and matching with your amplifier. We discuss how a single impedance rating from a manufacturer is often not very useful. We also discuss how sensitivity can be affected by speaker impedance and amplifier considerations when driving 4 ohm rated loudspeakers.
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  • @phreak1118
    @phreak1118 2 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    "Regardless of your speaker impedance... always keep the switch on the high setting." That is all I needed to know. Thanks Gene.

  • @thomasfox8027
    @thomasfox8027 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Videos like these are fascinating and absolutely invaluable to people like me. You answered so many questions I've had for so long. Thanks so much for taking the time to do this, Gene! Audioholics rules!

  • @serg472
    @serg472 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Your monologue videos are always the best, when you have some guests it always feels a bit cringy and forced back and forth. Can you please make more videos like this where you just talk alone, it's perfect as is.

  • @Grassy_Gnoll
    @Grassy_Gnoll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    I asked The Borg. They said, "Resistance is futile."
    I'm not sure they understood the question.

    • @dtsdigitalden5023
      @dtsdigitalden5023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My god man, have an upvote! Well earned. :)

    • @gman1087
      @gman1087 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Very good!

    • @Bluudclaat
      @Bluudclaat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Borg sales division said “better sound through research”

    • @chuckgilly
      @chuckgilly 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe the Borg will be forthcoming if I send "The Q" over there to ask the same question.

    • @siriosstar4789
      @siriosstar4789 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @grassy LOFL 😂😄🤣 1000 upvotes

  • @JC-11111
    @JC-11111 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I remember when I was into car audio. I had a 2 ohm stable amp and nobody could believe it was 2 ohm stable because no one I knew had a 2 ohm stable amp at the time. I loved that little 150W Crunch USA amp. It pushed 2x10" Pioneer 300W speakers with ease. I miss those days. 😀

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      All current, yet no real volts to speak of to really back it up. Am I right?
      Sure you can use transformers etc, but the car is never producing 120 volts of stable and reliable voltage.

  • @maxpower78-15
    @maxpower78-15 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Im really diggin this channel. Lots of great insight. Lots of great tips. Lots of great deals mentioned. Havent taken advantage yet, but im sure as christmas nears id live to hear about some good receiver deals. Thanks and keep up the good work

  • @masterblaster2626
    @masterblaster2626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is a topic that I've been pondering for some time. It's quite clear that the 4 ohm speaker will have twice the current flowing through it's voice coil than the 8 ohm speaker will have, which I would think would make them more dynamic, all things being equal. I just can't understand why 4 ohm speakers, with 2.83 volts presented to it, are typically less efficient (lower SPL) than an 8 ohm speaker with 2.83 volts applied to it. With the voltage being the same, the 4 ohm speaker would have twice the current flowing through it, and that should result in a larger magnetic flux being created by the voice-coil, and more movement of the speaker, and more output, i.e., a higher SPL than an otherwise equal 8 ohm speaker ... any thoughts to clear this up for me?

    • @peterrichard3706
      @peterrichard3706 ปีที่แล้ว

      U are correct. My 8 /4 ohm speaker,s play not as loud as my 4 ohm speakers. At reference.

    • @Contact_Info
      @Contact_Info 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      D4 has more magnetic force than d2 subs is one reason, another could be the amplifier running unexpectedly at different impedance. Could be many factors

  • @elongatuspiranha
    @elongatuspiranha 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Another great video You're on a roll Gene!

  • @Bork0r
    @Bork0r 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man... that 4 ohm receiver setting is deceiving. Thanks for educating us plebs :-)

  • @SwirlingDragonMist
    @SwirlingDragonMist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gene you sweetheart! I feel like the belle of the ball! Ha ha thanks for taking a deep dive into this topic! I saw this video 2 weeks ago and have been putting off my reply, sorry to leave you hanging. I ended up passing on those Beta-50’s cause the tweeters were dented, but I picked up some Beta-40’s one of which has a tweeter which although still fully domed shows some past fascination-deformation and little cracks from the CMMD layers delaminating, it honestly looks like glass as it diffracts light when I get up close at different angles with the flashlight. (Sold separately lol) . I happen to find a replacement tweeter on ebay for a beta-40 and what should I happen to see in the backside photo? It’s got 4ohms written on it. I then spent a little time with the brochure and noticed they call their horn-like parabolic waveguide a “Constant Acoustical Impedance” waveguide. Implying to me that the horn loading provides some air pressure impedance to perhaps increase the 4ohm tweeter’s resistance in the system. Hard to say if they rated it with or without the waveguide. I put the new Beta-40’s into storage with the rest of my setup, I’m essentially couch surfing, so tragically I haven’t been able to listen. Or analyze. The Beta series has two center channel options, I have the cheaper 2 way mtm design. I ascribe to the philosophy that the center channel is the most important channel. So I sprung to get the current reference series center channel RC263 as a bump up in overall performance. So I have my 4 towers 2 surrounds an extra center channel to cannabalize for a doner tweeter to spare. But guess what the impedance on the reference series center is marketed at? 6ohm with 89db sensitivity, compare that to the beta line advertised at 8ohm 91db. Is that just specmanship for the same number? The reference series also has a much shallower and broader waveguide, it’s almost flush compared to the deep pocket the beta tweeters sit in, but the reference also has a little torus and some other scifi jetsons junk suspended close to the tweeter’s dome. Which Is exactly the esoteric high tech gimmickry I love! What do you think about those sensitivity differences in mixing the sets? And about the hornloading affects on impedance curves? Or the CAi “Constant, Acoustical, Impedance” waveguide.

  • @Chiroman527
    @Chiroman527 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gene, fantastic dissertation about ohms and impedance. I'm just learning about this as I setup a new basement studio setup construed during COVID pandemic. New Denon DRA 800H Receiver with 2 speaker outputs. A and B. I connected 2 pairs of 8 ohm rated bookshelf speakers in parallel to the B speaker output, a d 1 pair of Fluance Signature Series Surround HiFi Bookshelf speakers, a 8 ohm speaker with nominal 6 ohms. The system played very well until after a time, with voulume at 62 (98 the highest), the Receiver overheated and shut down. When i disconnected the A speakers , the paralleled speakers played without issue. I now added a integrated amp , an IOTAVX SA3 to play the Fluances , hooked up via the Zone 2 preouts on the Denon. Any other way to play all 6 speakers on the Denon? This was a great well skilled video. Thx . Be well

  • @chrono2959
    @chrono2959 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for the 8 ohm switch at the end that was the reason for watching the video. I always wondered that . Thank you very much

  • @jaguar0811
    @jaguar0811 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great advice on using a separate amp to run 4ohm speakers. I Purchased a Rotel 1582

    • @fwabble
      @fwabble 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ;0;

  • @williamsmith9194
    @williamsmith9194 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes this was very helpful. I have been accused of overthinking an issue but understanding is worth the effort

  • @zombielandiii2711
    @zombielandiii2711 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hope you can review Kef R3 and/or RSL CG25. Now, I'm going to see some of your videos. I'm specially interested on dual subwoofers calibration, I think I screw it, because I buy two different. A monolith monoprice 10 inch, and a speedwoofer RSL. So I Will try to make this combination work, or get rid of one of the two. Wish me luck! Oh, by the way, congratulations for your new Mark for 90,000 subscribers and 20 millions of visitors. Without a doubt, this honest channel deserve it and more.

  • @BruceTheSillyGoose
    @BruceTheSillyGoose 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thank you for clearing up the impedance switch question :)

  • @ThomasAT86
    @ThomasAT86 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh thank you so much, this has been a fantastic explanation. And for everyone - watch it till the end, it's worth it!

  • @Audiolympian
    @Audiolympian 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome Video Gene. So much knowledge. So does a true lower ohm speaker basically have the ability to get louder with less distortion? I have some lower ohm speakers like Elac’s and Sonus Faber and truthfully I don’t notice much of a difference between them and my Goldenear triton 5’s I guess as far as ohms go. Thanks and shared

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes but not because its a lower impedance but because it has multiple drivers sharing the load.

    • @PoesAcoustics
      @PoesAcoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Audiolympian well and again, I’ll preface what Gene says by noting it all depends on the speaker. All else being equal, adding multiple drivers reduces distortion and increases output. That doesn’t mean a speaker with 3 drivers has less distortion than a speaker with 2 drivers. It would just depend.

    • @Audiolympian
      @Audiolympian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew Poes thanks for your reply it makes sense. . I’ve just been trying to understand the real difference between the different ohm speakers for some time now. To me there doesn’t seem to be one

    • @PoesAcoustics
      @PoesAcoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Audiolympian it is just an electro-mechanical property of the speaker. I wouldn’t buy speakers based on their impedance myself. I would buy a speaker based on its performance.
      The nice thing about a lower impedance speaker is that the amplifier puts out more power. If you have a good quality amplifier that is designed well and behaves as it should with a 4 ohm load, it can potentially deliver a 3dB increase in max output. That is nice to have. It’s a kind of free lunch.
      However my view is that we go by speaker performance first and impedance second.

    • @Audiolympian
      @Audiolympian 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Matthew Poes I never have. I just happened to pick up some speakers I liked that happen to be 4 ohm. But truthfully I really love my Goldenear speakers.

  • @arliecrumpler3213
    @arliecrumpler3213 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a cheap system: Cambridge AXR85 amplifier and old speakers. One pair is 8 ohms and the other is 6 ohms. I've been running all 4 speakers at the say time. I don't crank them up much and the amp is running fairly cool. No signs of overheating. Should I only run one pair? My amp is rated at 85 watts per channel and 4-8 ohms. I can select speakers: A, B, or A/B .
    The owners manual says it's ok to run 2 pairs of 8 ohms speakers together but not a 4 ohms and 8 ohms together. Just not sure about 6 ohms and 8 ohms together. Gonna disconnect one pair for now.
    I appreciate your technical expertise and really enjoy your channel.

  • @av8rbri473
    @av8rbri473 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    oh boy, this reminds me of my initial EE days in school.... did not like it; went the mechanical route....
    you did make it pretty easy to understand though and I enjoy your videos; breaks down to simple ohms law....👍🏻
    I learn something new from every video you have put together.....

  • @devitomichael
    @devitomichael หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. This is the type of information I feed upon! Awesome!

  • @1324390
    @1324390 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Regardless of your speaker impedance always keep the switch on the high setting..." Does this rule apply to tube amps, which have different output transformers and binding posts for 4 ohm and 8 ohm speakers ? I was told that a pair of 6 ohm speakers should be more appropriately connected to the 4 ohm terminals of a tube amp.

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This video is dedicated for AV receivers only.

    • @1324390
      @1324390 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Audioholics Thank you for clarifyiung.

  • @GunnyPhillips
    @GunnyPhillips ปีที่แล้ว

    Great information as always. Thanks Gene.

  • @phototechchannel229
    @phototechchannel229 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic explanation of speaker/amp Ohm ratings. Nice to hear this topic covered in such detail. So much mis-information and half-truths out there about manufacturer Ohm designations. There's a lot of Ford Vs Chevy, Analog Vs Digital nonsense out there about 4 & 8 Ohm disgnations. Those argunents arn't even close to being relivant to how speakers and amps work.

  • @longstaffkj
    @longstaffkj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've never understood how these devices were rated. Thanks for explaining this so clearly. Great vid.

  • @arianbardez7149
    @arianbardez7149 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently purchased a Yamaha as-501 integrated amplifier (85 rms/channel @ 8-ohms) - resulting in the depletion of my very limited finances. So now I don't have any means to buy matching Yamaha speakers. But I have a pair of Pioneer car speakers in wooden enclosures ( 4-ohms, 150-rms/each ). Please let me know if I can use them without causing any damage ? The as-501 Amp has an Impedance Selector switch - Should I set it to 4--8 ohms or should I leave it at 8 ohms ?

  • @faridjamal6837
    @faridjamal6837 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent info and very well explained.

  • @tommichaels2581
    @tommichaels2581 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Gene. Very helpful. Confirmed what I was doing.

  • @billtait6457
    @billtait6457 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thankyou ,now it's makes sense , I have switched my Receiver back to 8 ohms .Sounds just fine and no issues, I'm 65 and never understood all of this till now . But ,what about this , I did read somewhere once ,that the danger is playing around with low power systems may blow .(I got 100 watts / channel , and hardly turn it up .)

  • @aditya2805
    @aditya2805 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved your video ....
    Good explanation ; relationship of Audio sensitivity & impedance
    I do have knowledge on Electrical ...but not on audio
    You cleared it 🙏

  • @revokdaryl1
    @revokdaryl1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Isn't it true that a lower impedance speaker results in a lower (halved) damping factor to a higher impedance speaker? I'm pretty sure if an amplifier has a damping factor of 300 with an 8 ohm speaker, it'll more or less be approximately only 150 with a 4 ohm speaker. I've been wanting to look into some 16 ohm speakers, which favour high voltage to high current. This would mean the damping factor with a 16 ohm speaker on the same amp would be 600, right?

  • @Ed.T-p1b
    @Ed.T-p1b 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am most confused with the given speakers' impedance specification.
    eg: nominal umoedance 8 ohm, minimum impedance 3.8 ohm ;
    What it is? What should I treat the speaker impedance if I am to play two pairs of speakers for both A and B of one amplifier which has a limit of maximum 4 ohm?

  • @epi2045
    @epi2045 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really great video!!! I generally prefer 4ohm speakers. They seem to be less fatiguing.

  • @SangramVID
    @SangramVID 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice video ....Sir my question is I can connect 6 ohms speaker to 8ohms in series ? plz reply this speakers I will use in 8 ohms stereo amplifier ?

  • @noco-pf3vj
    @noco-pf3vj 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That design of the tweeter on SVS Prime Pinnacle reminds me of the MB Quart tweeter from the '90s. Like MB Quart QL-502 S or QL-1002 S, All MB Quart speakers impedance are 4 ohms, can make your amplifier sweating fast.

  • @jimbasler1054
    @jimbasler1054 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a Pioneer sx-1250,from 1976. I drive a pair of JBL LX600 8ohm speakers,for low to mid volume listening,and a pair of Cerwin Vega AT-12 4ohm speakers,for some higher volume listening. If I use a speaker selector switch,is there any reason that I shouldn't drive both pairs,together? The receiver specs say no lower than 4ohms...... I had this receiver serviced and recapped recently,and it bench tested at 180wpc. Thanks in advance!

  • @dickydoesaudio3466
    @dickydoesaudio3466 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wish this video would have been available about two years ago, it would have saved me some money. I popped several tweeter's before realizing my Denon 6400 wasn't putting out enough power for my 4 ohm speakers. Because Denon state's the receiver is capable of pushing 4ohm speakers, I thought it was fine. Guess not. I went the somewhat cheap route and bought a couple crown amps for my front three speakers everything's been good since then...

  • @hugobloemers4425
    @hugobloemers4425 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting monologue, Personally I have always preferred high impedance speakers because the requirements for the speaker cable become less stringent (and I can just put a hum drum cable in place, I always concidered cables as closing post of the entire budget). The sensitivity issue between 4 and 8 Ohms I find less compelling. I prefer to relate sensitivity to power dissipation rather than voltage to understand the speaker motor. Like wise when I look at an amplifier, I look at the (RMS) power to an 8 Ohm speaker to match the two components (if you have 2 high sensitivity speakers in a living room, the neighbors will be calling the police at 20 Watts output so I am completely at loss why anyone needs a 300W per channel amp). The part of the impedance setting I found very interesting and learned something new :) But I was waiting to get the exeption which are tube amplifiers (or rather amplifiers using an output transformer) they have to be impedance matched to maximize the power because they are not approaching a voltage source.

  • @Thor777AHT
    @Thor777AHT 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have 2x Neo 10 8ohm. Should i wire them in series 16 ohm or paralell 4 ohm? my ICEpower1200A2 can handle both

  • @georgeleesoonhuat1394
    @georgeleesoonhuat1394 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi there. I have an AV Amplifier by Onkyo and a pair of tower speakers with 6 ohms impedance. I had some issues with the amp shutting down. I was advised by amp technician to select 4 ohms impedance in amp selection instead of my original selection of 6 ohms or more. Please advise me on this 4 ohms impedance selection on my amp with the 6 ohms impedance tower speakers. Will it cause any harm to either amp or speaker? Your technical info appreciated.

  • @superdougie10
    @superdougie10 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im running 4 omh's on a really old NAD high voltage receiver into really old Celestian bookshelf two ways rated at 8 omh's. This receiver is set to run either setting for omh's these speakers perform better at 4 omh's I never play them load or past like 1.5 on the volume control. Over time these old speakers have sounded different with the high voltage at 4omhs and im guessing its the extra watts from that setting and the high voltage.
    They are still kind of congested which is common for these speakers.

  • @EM-ke8is
    @EM-ke8is 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Matt , big fan thanks for the response , I recently disconnected my B&K ref amp 200x7 with the Monoprice , while I may not be able to measure I will use the B&K and see if this occurs as I remember the Klipsch RF-7's kept playing clear and loud and continued to increase .When running the XMC-1 in reference stereo mode and not PLIIx the RF-7;s responded while using the Monoprice .Again appreciate look forward to watching next video keep up your great work audioholics .

  • @borlach321
    @borlach321 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    From my experience a 4ohm speaker likes more power ( a lot) in which case I would never use an AVR. Would you say this speaker is difficult to drive?
    Frequency Range (+/-3 dB) [Hz] 50 - 26.000
    Sensitivity (2,83 V/1 m) [dB] 87.0
    Nominal Impedance [ohms] 4
    Maximum SPL [dB] 107
    Recommended Amplifier Power [W] 40 - 150
    Crossover Frequency [Hz] 3,1
    Crossover Principle

  • @MrApple-qf3qo
    @MrApple-qf3qo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So I big CVs would it be better to play them on a stereo amplifier or AV Receiver

  • @AvithOrtega
    @AvithOrtega 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! I have a question about frecuency response/audio quality of a Speaker connected with an Amplifier that have different ohm values, hopefully you can resolve my doubt :)
    - I have an amplifier with a 3 ohms output and I want to connect a speaker of 2 drivers (1 woofer and a tweeter) of 8 ohms.
    - As far as I know the only drawback is that it will sound less loud (which is not a problem for me), but the frecuency response of the whole speaker is preserved just as it was designed for. Is this correct?
    - What if I match the impedance of the speaker with the one of my amp using a 5 ohm resistor in parallel? Will it just sound louder or does it improves the audio quality/frecuency response of the speaker?
    - If I only connect my 3 ohm amp to the 8 ohm speaker, will this affect the crossover of the speaker (as I understand it (here)[soundcertified.com/how-does-increasing-speaker-impedance-affect-db-output-power/], or the speaker crossover is completely independent and therefore not affected by the ohm mismatch?

  • @MLDurant
    @MLDurant ปีที่แล้ว

    Explained perfectly. Thank you!

  • @thomasrauch6477
    @thomasrauch6477 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can you do a review on the JBL l890 tower speakers? what they like for power, best eq setup, best distance from listener, ect. thank you for all of the information you give in your videos.

    • @anthonymartino9917
      @anthonymartino9917 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have those speakers two pair. They are great speakers decent low end and good mids and imaging. You can run them on a decent receiver just fine. I upgraded them to the Polk lsim 707s and now the Legacy Focus SE. For the cost the l 890s are excellent.

  • @benhanson2117
    @benhanson2117 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This was very informative. Thank you

  • @GeorgeOu
    @GeorgeOu 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You should use two monitors and XSplit for these broadcasts. The second monitor can show you the composite final product. If you want free instead, get OBS Studio.

  • @marshallborder9089
    @marshallborder9089 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have a new Pyle amppifier 40 Watts x 2 POWER OUT PUT that requires a 10% RMS 4 ohms speakers , but I have a pair of 60 watts 6 ohms JVC bookshelf speakers on hand . Think these 6 ohms will work .

  • @559carpet
    @559carpet 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    i have a question i have a pair of polk audio TSI 300 tower speakers. the specs say 8 ohm but why is it when i read it with a ohm meter it says 3.6 to 4.1. all speakers in towers are working and sound great but when i crank it up my receiver clips. it is a Yamaha RXV659. Thanks

  • @mii747
    @mii747 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Gene. Very informative. 👍

  • @hiviman
    @hiviman 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    got a question i know this is old but im a lil confused your note about spl changes at mid/high vs low, but isnt that backwards? our ears are most senitive to mids/high not bass but why do u need 10db difference in the most senitive range compared to lows at 6db that our ears arnt senitive to? or am i missing something

  • @donpech1422
    @donpech1422 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi if my ampis 4 ohms do 8 ohms speaker load my amp too much? My amp have 2 channels and is 4 ohms 750 watts per channel if i use 8 ohms speaker how many watts of 8 ohms is ok? Thanks

  • @scottwien139
    @scottwien139 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Gene - thank you so much for the explanation on 4 ohm vs. 8 ohm speakers. Follow-up...I am considering a pair of Tekton Pendragons - Eric offers them in 4 ohm builds or 8 ohm builds. I have a high current 250 watt per channel amp - should I go with the 4 ohm build with upgraded 4 ohm caps and capacitors?? I was thinking the 4 ohm as I want to eventually dive into tube amplification. Thanks

    • @thunderpooch
      @thunderpooch 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The higher the ohms, the less power they require.
      Resistance gives you an idea of efficiency, but not of audio quality.

    • @dennishaley4443
      @dennishaley4443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Scott...I have the 8 ohm Pens with the 7 tweeter array and upgraded wiring and caps...Love them.....They wanted me to do the 4 ohm and I said no way....Almost all hi efficient , hi end audiophile speakers are 8 ohm. They sound better.

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm going with the Enzo XL with 7 tweeter upgrade and upgraded crossover components. I'm deciding between 4 and 8 ohms even though my Parasound amp can handle 4 ohm loads. I just think it will run hotter and don't want to replace it any time soon. Eric is pushing hard for the 4 ohm.

    • @dennishaley4443
      @dennishaley4443 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@blipco5 I know they push almost too hard for the 4 ohm.....Most high efficient speakers are 8 ohm. Even the reviewers say to always use the 8 ohm tap if you have a choice. Good Luck...Good Choice but 8 ohm for me. I will Never sell these speakers because nothing for $2500 even comes close. Don't forget to get a Schiit Loki mini for $148...tone controls are fabulous.

    • @blipco5
      @blipco5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dennis Haley.. Thanks for your response. My Parasound P6 preamp already has tone controls which is one reason I bought it though I normally run in bypass. I only use the tone circuit when I use my FM tuner to boost the highs and either bump or tame the bass. My power amp is the Parasound A23+ and can easily run four ohm speakers but I had concerns. So I contacted Parasound and they told me that the four ohm speakers will not be a problem as long as the amp is well ventilated, which it is, but that confirmed it will run hotter. So it's 8 ohm for me as well.
      On a side note, they really like the Tekton speakers and they use them to demo Parasound equipment. Mainly for space requirements (Eric suggested the Pendragons but they just won't fit the space, they'll block off two fairly expensive paintings). I'm getting the Enzo XL with the seven tweeter upgrade and crossover upgrade. My big problem now is figuring out the custom color to match my room. I'm replacing my beloved Speakerlab S3 that I built 40 years ago with recently recapped crossovers.
      The S3 are nominal 8 ohm, sound incredible (blew away the JBL L100 that I demo'd the Parasound equipment on) and will play louder than my ears can take.

  • @tedplehn8800
    @tedplehn8800 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Does the advice to keep your amp at the higher output apply to tube amps? I've heard that to choose 4 or 8 ohm taps based on perceived sound quality.

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      No,this is for AV receivers with an impedance switch.

    • @mkshffr4936
      @mkshffr4936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dubbler9228 On a tube amp generally you want to use the matching impedance tap. However, using the "wrong" tap will just change the load line (or more accurately load ellipse ;)) on the output tubes from what the manufacturer considered optimal so max power output, distortion etc will change. In any normal situation you won't damage the amp but you may or may not like the change in sound. Just be sure to power down before changing as you don't want to have the amp trying to drive an open output.

  • @manFromPeterborough
    @manFromPeterborough 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tower speaker may not be triple woofer, it may have 2 active woofers and a passive radiator, also many centre channel speakers are 4 ohm due to the 2 8 ohm woofers wired parallel

  • @bobzealand5692
    @bobzealand5692 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cool ! Howd the newer ml motion 60xti compare to the older model?

  • @petecap4382
    @petecap4382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I know it's off the topic but I know you are in Florida with all the hometheater equipment how to you handle the electric bill? do you go with Solar? I just relocated to orlando the light bill is crazy.

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      My electricity bill isn't too bad. HVAC is more power hungry than my amps so I heavily insulated my attics, and deployed solar cooling fans.

  • @HermesTrismegistes369
    @HermesTrismegistes369 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have the Sonus faber sonetto viii’s(4ohm). And SF recomends pairing with 50-300w amp. I have a Parasound halo a51, and at 4ohm’s gives out 400w. Will my system be ok?? 😮

  • @pay9011
    @pay9011 ปีที่แล้ว

    My 1988 JBL L-60T speakers are 6 ohm. Is that a good or bad thing? (My amp is 8 ohm)

  • @QuicksilverSG
    @QuicksilverSG 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wiring speakers in series can in some cases degrade the power output of one or both speakers at certain frequency bands. When speakers are wired in parallel, the full output voltage of the power amp will be applied to both speakers and they will work independently. In series, however, the current through both speakers will be limited by the sum total impedence of both speakers, and the voltage will be split between the speakers. If the speaker impedences are identical, the voltage will be split equally between the two speakers. But if the speaker impedences aren't perfectly matched in all frequency bands, the speaker with lower impedence will have its power output limited by the other speaker in those bands. While this is typically a minor effect, it can in some cases become audible.

  • @rajivbhowmickgkb280
    @rajivbhowmickgkb280 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I Have an amplifier 180 watt per chennel output in 4 ohms . So can I use 150 watt speaker in 8 ohms? Because if i connect 2 × 8 ohms in parallel in become 4 ohms 300 watt

  • @romanlewandowski9616
    @romanlewandowski9616 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for the great review

  • @pspkutube
    @pspkutube 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video!!!

  • @jurgenkuhne9549
    @jurgenkuhne9549 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please help with specifications for the TLS Reference TL REF 1000 TX. I bought this set of surround speakers 15 years ago. I have upgraded to a Denon S950H, I am not sure if the speakers and Denon are a best fit.

  • @chrisd6736
    @chrisd6736 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Gene. Anyway you can do a discussion on different audio streaming platforms? I’m trying to get the best quality digital music from my phone to my Marantz receiver and the whole thing is really confusing. I’m currently using airplay 2 to stream tidal “hifi” and MQA content but I’m thinking that the airplay 2 is downsampling stuff which is not cool.
    Seems like all this crap should be integrated better in this day and age.

    • @PoesAcoustics
      @PoesAcoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Chris D hah! What great timing. Check out website. I just published my article and a live stream covering it is coming shortly.

  • @vicg5323
    @vicg5323 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you. Is Hugo still with you?

  • @reneagutierrez
    @reneagutierrez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you make this more simple with is Better 4 hom or 8 hom

  • @hobojon44
    @hobojon44 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have ELAC 6.2 6 ohm speaker where is that speaker and the Marantz pm 7000n what about 6 ohm speakers

  • @ThunderStruckMTB
    @ThunderStruckMTB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love this..... always straight to the facts and in a way that even I can understand it.

  • @finscreenname
    @finscreenname 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Infinity was famous for using 4 ohm speakers for everything and then wiring the woofers in series to get 8 ohms going to the crossover for some reason. Thinking it was mainly because they killed Amps on a regular basis.

  • @aaronfitzgerald9109
    @aaronfitzgerald9109 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Having 8 ohm amp with a 6 ohm speaker, does not make sense, wont the 6 ohm speaker try to draw 6 ohms worth of power from the 8 ohm set amp? Thus the speakers are calling for more power (lower impeadance rating) than the amps set at??

  • @stephens2r338
    @stephens2r338 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your correct except with a tube amp. You often have the opportunity to choose16 , 8 or 4 output matching. Try all of them...often connecting the 8 or 16 ohn connector to the 4 ohm speaker sounds better.

  • @gregleonard1562
    @gregleonard1562 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audiohawksdotcom...my ears heard. I liked that. Its a hawkish breakdown, illustrated. Motorised low impedance speaking style. Am here to glean and learn. Thanks again.

  • @ddcrocky3831
    @ddcrocky3831 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about svs ultra bookshelf speakers would that be hard to drive say like pioneer sc901 powering those ultra bookshelf svs speakers

  • @dandonna3904
    @dandonna3904 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    better to power 8 ohm speaker with 4 ohm amp to be safe? in those low dips

  • @vinay00420
    @vinay00420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi Gene,
    Can you share some of you insight on airmotiv c2+ center speaker which is an 4 ohms speaker with 92db sensitivity

    • @styner3
      @styner3 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I can't talk about the airmotiv c2+ but I bought the C2 on closeout in May and it's incredible, especially for the price. At $399 the airmotiv c2+ is still a great deal, the C2 has taken the dialog in movies to another level for me so the C2+ must sound even better.

    • @vinay00420
      @vinay00420 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@styner3 Thanks this was very helpful :)

  • @WindomRettes
    @WindomRettes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Question: I have a pair of Pioneer SP-FSF2 tower speakers rated at 6 ohm mated to a Yamaha TSR-7850 receiver. As you stated in this video should I keep the receiver speaker output switch at 6 ohm or return it to the 8 ohm position?

    • @WindomRettes
      @WindomRettes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      meant to type SP-FS52

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Answer is in this video: th-cam.com/video/Ou5bO8P2Drw/w-d-xo.html

    • @WindomRettes
      @WindomRettes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Audioholics After watching video I adjusted my receiver back to the 8 ohm speaker setting,Thnx.

  • @scottiffanimccord1509
    @scottiffanimccord1509 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you for the advice at the end about the 4/8 ohm switch on the back of my amp, I thought by having it on the 4 ohm setting I was getting more output, I was wrong thanks.

    • @ben156
      @ben156 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Output resistance should always match what the speaker is wired/rated for. Safe mismatch is possible but not ideal.

  • @heatheracosta780
    @heatheracosta780 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So if I'm running Three 6 inch 8 ohm Skyline performance Studio speakers that are 350 watts each. then i would need about 450 W 4 ohms to run them.. ?

  • @rizzleroodoo
    @rizzleroodoo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    holy moly. you really know your stuff.

  • @johnpoo1662
    @johnpoo1662 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    So let's say you have two different 2-way bookshelf (tweeter+woofer) speakers from the same manufacturer. Same sensitivity, same woofer diameter. One is 4 ohms and the other 8 ohms. Assuming all other things being equal (no amp clipping etc), why would anyone buy the 4 ohm version?
    Is there something inherently better about a low resistance coil that translates into more linear driver motion? The compromise being it just wastes more power.

  • @ahyonvlogs
    @ahyonvlogs 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is it that No HOME Speaker driver uses HIGH impedance ?? While Eabuds go to as high as 600 ohms

  • @EM-ke8is
    @EM-ke8is 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I recently purchased the Monoprice Monolith 7x200 amp and connected to an Emotiva XMC-1 driving Klipsch RF-7's ,450c and RB 59's for my surrounds at about -10 db or so the volume wont increase , Klipsch being sensitive speakers and the Emotiva processor functioning optimally , do you feel its an amperage problem at the outlet 15 not 20 ,or something with this subject of impedence ?

    • @PoesAcoustics
      @PoesAcoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      E M there are too many factors to answer this simply. If you could measure, we could figure this out. However, I would just say that the most likely problem is that you are hitting the maximum output of the speaker. If you look at our subwoofer tests, which test max output, and look specifically at compression tests, you will see that at some point a speaker just doesn’t get any louder. You add 3dB of signal, but only get 1dB or extra output. That is compression. Eventually it just won’t get any louder.

  • @Lawrence818
    @Lawrence818 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow I was telling people at best buy that my Pioneer SC-87 was clipping out (Nannie) with my Martin Logan Theos on five ch driving. They were like so confused and telling me it should not be doing that lol. I just got a separate 2 ch Amp and now I have 0 problems.. Real Experts are hard to find in life.

  • @dtsdigitalden5023
    @dtsdigitalden5023 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the mathematics behind all of this. Fantastic!

  • @adaboy4z
    @adaboy4z 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Now I understand why my Ifinity Beta 50s have 4 ohm tweeters and 10 ohms dual 8 inch woofers but they advertised the speaker as 8 ohm..

  • @edwardverlie6534
    @edwardverlie6534 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great tutorial. What is your opinion of Class D amps like the rockville and behringer.? They are notoriously over rated by the manufacturer specs

  • @peterwassmuth4014
    @peterwassmuth4014 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Totally awesome! ThX so mutch!
    Peace and Love. And Happy new Year.

    • @ow_will
      @ow_will 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      "If 'ull pardon the pun" 🤣🤣🤣XD

  • @bobdexter1029
    @bobdexter1029 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.

  • @dennisciarcia7015
    @dennisciarcia7015 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does 4 ohm speaker require an amp with more power? I would think a amp with less power (i.e. more bang for the buck) since it plays louder. example: 33% of my amp's power into a 4 ohm would be louder than that same volume level (33%) into an 8 ohm. So i would have to turn the amp up to get the same db for a 8 ohm vs 4 ohm. Confused on why 4 ohm taxes an amp.

  • @Bones1md
    @Bones1md 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explanation.

  • @leslybranson1007
    @leslybranson1007 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So when a speaker says 8ohm(min 3.0) so what ohm rating is that speaker?

  • @dandonna3904
    @dandonna3904 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just mono block all speakers?? I'm buying sister for birthday/ Christmas gift Marantz M-CR612 60watts into 6 Ohms with PSB Alpha P5 10-90 watts 8 Ohms My sister doesn't play music loud.

  • @kcjones7634
    @kcjones7634 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video as always
    But can I run a 4olms amp on a 8olms speaker,

    • @IRQ1Conflict
      @IRQ1Conflict 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, of course. 8 ohms with a 4 ohm capable amp is a cake walk.

  • @tigsmartpt
    @tigsmartpt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks, I lern a lot from you.

  • @FitraHomestead
    @FitraHomestead 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do I understand it correctly, that when you have a 4 ohm speaker that it power handling goes up? As any good amplifier would double up or atleast go up quite a bit vs 8 ohm. So my amplifier gives more power into 4 ohm vs 8. So if a speaker is 4 ohm generally speaking they handle more power?

    • @Audioholics
      @Audioholics  5 ปีที่แล้ว

      They can due to having more drivers, but not always.

    • @PoesAcoustics
      @PoesAcoustics 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Audio Fun well I would add to what Gene is saying by noting that impedance is not in any way related to power handling. That is a function of the drivers. If you have one driver rated at 8 ohms and you pair them. You get 4 ohms impedance and double the power handling. However the doubling in power handling came from doubling the driver. If you wire in series, the impedance is 16 ohms but the power handling still doubles.
      You can also have a 2-way speaker that handles far more power than a 3-way speaker. It just depends on the drivers.

  • @summerforever6736
    @summerforever6736 ปีที่แล้ว

    good info!!! thanks

  • @neilstern7108
    @neilstern7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good stuff, thanks.