Cant believe it Brian, swapped from Sony to M43 and bought an EM1 Mk2. On holiday on the Isle of Wight last week at Osbourne house taking some photos when I got the same card error issue. Swapped to my second card slot and carried on around Osbourne. Back home now trying to recover 2 days of lost photos!
Thanks Brian and, yes, I know your pain. Same thing happened to me last year on our annual holiday. This was one of the reasons why I bought a 2nd hand OM-1 Mki last month.
Dear Brian, Do hope that you and your Mrs. Micro 4/3 had a lovely holiday (despite the camera glitch.) Pity about the loss of your photos. I suspect that for next visit, you will carry several extra cards. Nice videos. My only suggestion is that you pair the videos with Greek traditional music (bouzouki) instead of Caribbean-style music to add context and location. Cheers! Godspeed!
There is sd card recovery software that can retrieve files from a corrupted card (but not after a reformat). You may want to investigate for future reference. My E-M1 mk iii has two card slots, programed so that card two kicks in once card two fills up, but I always format before a card fills up. Also, I always use my cable to download files directly to my computer, so rarely have occasion to remove a card. That just seems safer to me. Anyway, cheers to you for having a good attitude, and here’s to your next trip!
@@louisswaim7024 in this weather you can’t have a bad attitude. Being able to be in the sunshine, not having to work, eating good food and meeting nice people is a privilege not a right. A privilege most of us never get. So I just class myself as very lucky and don’t see the point of fretting over a couple of photos.
Hmm food for thought. All my cameras have dual card slots however I don’t have them set to record to both cards simultaneously. Never felt the need and maybe have become complacent after never having a card corruption incident. Might be time for a reassessment though. Welcome home btw.
I travel with either an Olympus E-M10 Mk2 or a Pentax K-30, both single slot. I always carry at least 2 spare cards, but I only had a problem on a trip two times. Last year, when I was travelling across Europe, the card would sometimes give an error, but would just refuse to take the shot, rather than allow the shot to be taken, but silently fail and not tell me. Reinserting the card fixed the issue, so I guessed it was worn or dirty pins. I was able to switch cards, and then later, back at the hotel, I backed up everything on the dodgy card to my laptop and just formatted it in camera. I saw some glar on the pins, so I wiped them down with contact cleaner and it has been fine ever since. One other time, years earlier, I had an SD card where the plastic case actually physically split while inside the camera, where it got stuck... That was a real pain. When I used a toothpick to free it, the thing shot out of the camera, up into the air, and down into a drain... Bye bye hundreds of (possibly award winning, but probably bog standard) photos!!! ;) I won't slate the brand here, but it *wasn't* a quality one, and I'll never make that mistake again!
Ever since I started using WiFi to transfer my photos back in 2014? Never had a card failure again. They don’t get handled and I think that’s the reason they are less prone to failure.
5:28 HAHAHA my wife and I went to Rhodes a few months ago and wanted to travel light, I took my gopro10 and decided to leave my Nikon at home, big mistake, I was really annoyed about it when i got back home and said to my wife, we need to go back next year, with my Nikon and the gopro 🤣
Me, One camera, one lens, one card, no problem! however once in India I shot half a dozen winning pictures (I always say that) on the beach of fishermen on a quality compact camera, when I came to download my images there were none on the card, disaster! several months later when having a play with this camera with no card in I found these pictures on the internal storage in the camera and what a bonus that was, I did not know the camera had internal storage, I later found out if the camera detects a problem with the card the pictures would go to the internal storage! what a great idea was that! I still use that card and compact camera every so often! I think the heat of the day had something to do with that incident! So when are you going back? Cyprus is a lovely place!
So sorry to hear that mate :/ But glad you can see the silver lining :) I just spent my week in London and meticulously backed up everything every evening to a laptop and a cloud storage. Also had a list of equipment to bring... However I also probably suffer from all sorts of mental disorders that lead me to be this way :D Chin up! You enjoyed the moment. That's what counts.
From spain.Hoy en dia las tarjetas son extremadamente resistentes a los fallos por parte del fabricante.Si son utilizadas muchisimo (como bodas) yo lo que haria seria a los 8 meses cambiarlas porque valen relativamente poco.Lo normal es que algo externo te las estropeen o anulen.Yo llevo siempre una tarjeta de repuesto en la bolsa y otra bateria asi no se me olvidan.Un cordial saludo
Now that is rare bad luck. The cards usually never fail. Perhaps we have camera going bad? None of my MFT gear has a second slot -- never an issue. Some months ago I bought a Nikon Z5 and it has the second slot. If I leave home without putting the slot one card back in, I have a backup. In tiny cameras, I hear that the GRIII and GRIIIx have some memory built-in to the camera -- that would be cool. On the Central Coast of California, for today, we will have around 41.6 Celsius, give or take a bit. It is dry heat, around 30 miles inland, with much-much cooler weather near the shoreline. I praise St. Will Carrier each and every Summer, as the patron saint of air conditioning. The coolest man that ever lived! 😎 Take care, Loren
@@lorenschwiderski I actually think it was the reader for my iPad which caused the issue as the camera was faultless before and afterwards. Yes, Cyprus is cooling down to only 33c today, it usually gets a shade temp of around 40-44c in July/aug humidity averages around 61% in sep with some nice sea breezes.
Sorry to hear of the loss of photos. I find card failures rare - it's been about two a decade for me! My holiday workflow is to take a few cards and swap each of them out after a couple of days. It wouldn't get around a failure but would limit the impact. If it were me, I'd bin that suspect card. Not worth the hassle of worrying about it.
Probably not "terminal" corruption. Even after formatting, you may be able to recover some of the contents using recovery software as long as you don't shoot too many images that would overwrite all the ones already on there. Normal (quick) formatting doesn't delete the old contents, it just marks the whole card as writeable, and "hides" the old shots. Disk Drill was one I used before with success (for a friend who had a Canon, and shot only RAW, so it was probably CR2). However, if a full, low-level format was done, then it effectively does a one pass overwrite, which would probably render your files unrecoverable. I think the formatting the camera does is not low-level. Apart from the very capable Disk Drill, there are others, like FileRec, PhotoRec, Recuva and more, but I'm not sure how well they work with ORFs. If you shot JPG or RAW+JPG, then they should all allow you to get at least some photos back. Alternatively, there are companies who offer this service.
Oh Brian,no back up SDS!? School boy error. Or cunning plan? For a quick return trip. We are more than happy enough to see the sun on your face. Let alone highlight a redundancy issue. I'd stay over there it's pretty grim here back home. Big thumbs up bud. I look forward to the return trip with twice as many pictures
I’m so sorry to hear that. Yes, may be a reason to go back soon. It looks like a great place. Wish you well. I had once a card failure. It was a Transcend. Never happened with the SanDisk.
Bad luck with the card failure - I've had a couple over the years, but fortunately never when it was too serious. So agree about the EM1/1 - it's my go-to camera for so many things and duplicates up for a EPL6 and down for a EM1/2. Although I bought mine as an end-of-line sell-off when the EM1/2 came out, they are now such good value s/h they are ideal cameras to start moving up to pro standard.
Well, life goes on. 😅 You seem to survive quite well despite the card error. Yes, bringing an extra card is always good. I had similar problem with my Pen PM2. But the reason was the battery is getting old and weak. But I only lost like 10 pictures before I noticed the true battery empty sign. And then I undrrstood what I forgot. Spare battery. 😂 I survive too. Despite. And I lerned something about that fabulous 16 mp camera.
Ouch! I accidentally pressed Format for my SD card when on a holiday in the Netherlands and lost all the photos taken that day, so know your pain! So yes, it happens! I also use a card reader for my SDs, never use the camera’s link to a PC unless updating the system.
@@trishf29 some of the data recovery apps might help. I've used some in the past when I have done the same. I managed to recover everything from a formatted card. I think it was a Lexar app.
Hmmm .... your SD card died. You MUST go back to Cypress. TH-cam fans are counting on you!! Brilliant plan! 😉 (in all seriousness, sorry about the card failure).
@@alangamble3236 yes, I find the Olympus transfers on the iPad are slow, especially when transferring videos. On my lumix g100 the quick transfer I found to be unreliable in connecting so I use a sad adaptor. Normally I usecan excellent Anker 7 in 1 adaptor but this time it was a cheaper adaptor as my good one was back in my room
@@ThatMicro43Guythanks Brian yes the video transfers are slow. Just an observation …when I transfer stills from the EM5 mkiii it’s a lot quicker than my other Oly cameras.
Really bad luck, Brian! I've not had SD card problems, but clearly it can happen. I wonder how many people with cameras with two card slots actually have them set up for redundancy? After all, you can choose to only use one slot, or have the second only be overflow if the first fills up, or JPG on one and RAW on the other, and on.
@@gregfeeler6910 on my EM1/2 and my G9 I keep my largest fastest cards (SDii) in slot 1 and I save all photos to it in raw format along with raw videos, on my 2 slot I store all photos as jpg files . Slot 2 is usually a slower SDi card
Oh dear, what a bummer. Having problems myself but different to yours. Managed to get a 72mm polarizing filter stuck on my Oly 12-100 pro lens. Can't unscrew it, its just doesn't want to come off!
I had similar issue with the G9! I had it setup to record video on one slot and stills to another. It had a bit of a freak out with one of my cards and kept losing random shots. No reason or rhyme……i think it just had an issue with one particular card; just didn’t like it, even after formatting. Couldn’t trust that card again, in the G9. Funnily, it worked perfectly in every other camera before and since! Had you used that card before in the EM1 without issue? Hope you can get some equally good shots The Second Time Around, as Frank would say!
A pity that you did not carry a spare card...was one not purchasable in any shop over there?...For your info, SanDisk Extreme Pro SD cards ship with 'Rescue Pro' software that assuredly retrieves all files (stills and videos) from SD cards that get corrupted in camera and throw out 'Card Read error.Format card?' type of an error message..I have encountered it on 3 different occasions with different cards and every single time 'Rescue Pro' was successful in rescuing the files and every single snap was intact.
@@ravineelakantan6417 I actually thought I did have spare cards in the bag……thought being the operative word. The point is though that I’d deliberately gone on holiday mode not photographer mode, these things happen. And if my doing this here can help other people avoid my mistake in the future then that’s what these videos are really for. The silly thing though is if I were doing a pro shoot I write lists in advance and check everything off with reserves for everything. So it would never have happened.
@@ThatMicro43Guy Appreciate your response...we do commit such errors ( I have on a couple of occasions carried the camera without a memory card!) occasionally and on meeting the consequences, there is still recovery possible if only we resist the temptation to format the card and see if another card can be purchased...also if we had already shot some nice and valuable footage , all the more reason to preserve the corrupted card for retrieval when we get back home .
From spain.Tambien hay gente que compra tarjetas economicas/baratas y asi el riesgo de perder fotos es muy grande.Solucion comprar calidad.😊.Un cordial saludo.
I've had a issues with micro sd cards in my gx9, I get memory card error msg, I even had one card corrupt it's self, but full size so cards are fine, very strange?
Any clue if it is recomended to use micro sd card plus adapter instead of full size ? Seems at some places they are easier to buy, but i dont really trust it because it needs the additional adapter, and is more slippery for the handling.
My wife has an allergy to nuts and the hotel food unfortunately must have had some nut ingredient, so I was unable to go on any trips and was stuck to the Hotel complex so was unable to take any photos on my Gx9
oh balls. i remember having my gh4 lose photos due to a bad sd card. always keep a reasonably sized decent sd card stored in the bag! id still go with a camera with dual sd card slots regardless if its holiday or not. i want pathos weather here.
Cant believe it Brian, swapped from Sony to M43 and bought an EM1 Mk2. On holiday on the Isle of Wight last week at Osbourne house taking some photos when I got the same card error issue. Swapped to my second card slot and carried on around Osbourne. Back home now trying to recover 2 days of lost photos!
@@ardshell69 hopefully you’ll het it recovered
Thanks Brian and, yes, I know your pain. Same thing happened to me last year on our annual holiday. This was one of the reasons why I bought a 2nd hand OM-1 Mki last month.
Dear Brian, Do hope that you and your Mrs. Micro 4/3 had a lovely holiday (despite the camera glitch.) Pity about the loss of your photos. I suspect that for next visit, you will carry several extra cards. Nice videos. My only suggestion is that you pair the videos with Greek traditional music (bouzouki) instead of Caribbean-style music to add context and location. Cheers! Godspeed!
There is sd card recovery software that can retrieve files from a corrupted card (but not after a reformat). You may want to investigate for future reference. My E-M1 mk iii has two card slots, programed so that card two kicks in once card two fills up, but I always format before a card fills up. Also, I always use my cable to download files directly to my computer, so rarely have occasion to remove a card. That just seems safer to me. Anyway, cheers to you for having a good attitude, and here’s to your next trip!
@@louisswaim7024 in this weather you can’t have a bad attitude. Being able to be in the sunshine, not having to work, eating good food and meeting nice people is a privilege not a right. A privilege most of us never get. So I just class myself as very lucky and don’t see the point of fretting over a couple of photos.
Ontrack have a recovery option on their software to recover after format but not if you start using the card again
Hmm food for thought.
All my cameras have dual card slots however I don’t have them set to record to both cards simultaneously. Never felt the need and maybe have become complacent after never having a card corruption incident. Might be time for a reassessment though.
Welcome home btw.
I travel with either an Olympus E-M10 Mk2 or a Pentax K-30, both single slot. I always carry at least 2 spare cards, but I only had a problem on a trip two times. Last year, when I was travelling across Europe, the card would sometimes give an error, but would just refuse to take the shot, rather than allow the shot to be taken, but silently fail and not tell me. Reinserting the card fixed the issue, so I guessed it was worn or dirty pins. I was able to switch cards, and then later, back at the hotel, I backed up everything on the dodgy card to my laptop and just formatted it in camera.
I saw some glar on the pins, so I wiped them down with contact cleaner and it has been fine ever since.
One other time, years earlier, I had an SD card where the plastic case actually physically split while inside the camera, where it got stuck... That was a real pain. When I used a toothpick to free it, the thing shot out of the camera, up into the air, and down into a drain... Bye bye hundreds of (possibly award winning, but probably bog standard) photos!!! ;) I won't slate the brand here, but it *wasn't* a quality one, and I'll never make that mistake again!
Ever since I started using WiFi to transfer my photos back in 2014? Never had a card failure again. They don’t get handled and I think that’s the reason they are less prone to failure.
@@WhoIsSerafin thanks. Does the transfer pieces work smoothly? Do you use the OM app?
5:28 HAHAHA my wife and I went to Rhodes a few months ago and wanted to travel light, I took my gopro10 and decided to leave my Nikon at home, big mistake, I was really annoyed about it when i got back home and said to my wife, we need to go back next year, with my Nikon and the gopro 🤣
Me, One camera, one lens, one card, no problem! however once in India I shot half a dozen winning pictures (I always say that) on the beach of fishermen on a quality compact camera, when I came to download my images there were none on the card, disaster! several months later when having a play with this camera with no card in I found these pictures on the internal storage in the camera and what a bonus that was, I did not know the camera had internal storage, I later found out if the camera detects a problem with the card the pictures would go to the internal storage! what a great idea was that! I still use that card and compact camera every so often! I think the heat of the day had something to do with that incident! So when are you going back? Cyprus is a lovely place!
@@desgardner7169 hopefully Jan/Feb time but as a permanent move. All depends upon getting my Irish passport through
We made it in the video!!🤣
So sorry to hear that mate :/ But glad you can see the silver lining :)
I just spent my week in London and meticulously backed up everything every evening to a laptop and a cloud storage. Also had a list of equipment to bring... However I also probably suffer from all sorts of mental disorders that lead me to be this way :D
Chin up! You enjoyed the moment. That's what counts.
From spain.Hoy en dia las tarjetas son extremadamente resistentes a los fallos por parte del fabricante.Si son utilizadas muchisimo (como bodas) yo lo que haria seria a los 8 meses cambiarlas porque valen relativamente poco.Lo normal es que algo externo te las estropeen o anulen.Yo llevo siempre una tarjeta de repuesto en la bolsa y otra bateria asi no se me olvidan.Un cordial saludo
Now that is rare bad luck. The cards usually never fail. Perhaps we have camera going bad? None of my MFT gear has a second slot -- never an issue. Some months ago I bought a Nikon Z5 and it has the second slot. If I leave home without putting the slot one card back in, I have a backup. In tiny cameras, I hear that the GRIII and GRIIIx have some memory built-in to the camera -- that would be cool. On the Central Coast of California, for today, we will have around 41.6 Celsius, give or take a bit. It is dry heat, around 30 miles inland, with much-much cooler weather near the shoreline. I praise St. Will Carrier each and every Summer, as the patron saint of air conditioning. The coolest man that ever lived! 😎 Take care, Loren
@@lorenschwiderski I actually think it was the reader for my iPad which caused the issue as the camera was faultless before and afterwards.
Yes, Cyprus is cooling down to only 33c today, it usually gets a shade temp of around 40-44c in July/aug humidity averages around 61% in sep with some nice sea breezes.
Sorry to hear of the loss of photos. I find card failures rare - it's been about two a decade for me! My holiday workflow is to take a few cards and swap each of them out after a couple of days. It wouldn't get around a failure but would limit the impact. If it were me, I'd bin that suspect card. Not worth the hassle of worrying about it.
Probably not "terminal" corruption. Even after formatting, you may be able to recover some of the contents using recovery software as long as you don't shoot too many images that would overwrite all the ones already on there. Normal (quick) formatting doesn't delete the old contents, it just marks the whole card as writeable, and "hides" the old shots. Disk Drill was one I used before with success (for a friend who had a Canon, and shot only RAW, so it was probably CR2). However, if a full, low-level format was done, then it effectively does a one pass overwrite, which would probably render your files unrecoverable. I think the formatting the camera does is not low-level. Apart from the very capable Disk Drill, there are others, like FileRec, PhotoRec, Recuva and more, but I'm not sure how well they work with ORFs. If you shot JPG or RAW+JPG, then they should all allow you to get at least some photos back.
Alternatively, there are companies who offer this service.
I guess just looking at the last few pictures occasionally in camera would show up that issue.
Oh Brian,no back up SDS!? School boy error. Or cunning plan? For a quick return trip. We are more than happy enough to see the sun on your face. Let alone highlight a redundancy issue. I'd stay over there it's pretty grim here back home. Big thumbs up bud. I look forward to the return trip with twice as many pictures
I’m so sorry to hear that. Yes, may be a reason to go back soon. It looks like a great place. Wish you well. I had once a card failure. It was a Transcend. Never happened with the SanDisk.
I have forgot to put my card in my camera before as it was still in my computer, these things happen
Bad luck with the card failure - I've had a couple over the years, but fortunately never when it was too serious. So agree about the EM1/1 - it's my go-to camera for so many things and duplicates up for a EPL6 and down for a EM1/2. Although I bought mine as an end-of-line sell-off when the EM1/2 came out, they are now such good value s/h they are ideal cameras to start moving up to pro standard.
that's a bummer. Hate it when that happens.
Well, life goes on. 😅 You seem to survive quite well despite the card error.
Yes, bringing an extra card is always good.
I had similar problem with my Pen PM2. But the reason was the battery is getting old and weak. But I only lost like 10 pictures before I noticed the true battery empty sign. And then I undrrstood what I forgot. Spare battery. 😂 I survive too. Despite. And I lerned something about that fabulous 16 mp camera.
Ouch! I accidentally pressed Format for my SD card when on a holiday in the Netherlands and lost all the photos taken that day, so know your pain! So yes, it happens! I also use a card reader for my SDs, never use the camera’s link to a PC unless updating the system.
@@trishf29 some of the data recovery apps might help. I've used some in the past when I have done the same. I managed to recover everything from a formatted card. I think it was a Lexar app.
Hmmm .... your SD card died. You MUST go back to Cypress. TH-cam fans are counting on you!! Brilliant plan! 😉 (in all seriousness, sorry about the card failure).
Shame! Though the main mission was the holiday, and it sounds like that was accomplished!
@@KirstenBayes it certainly was. And as the weather is beautiful over there the loss made an excuse to go out and do it again
Hi Brian ….is there a reason that you do not use the WiFi connection from camera to iPad when transferring images?
@@alangamble3236 yes, I find the Olympus transfers on the iPad are slow, especially when transferring videos. On my lumix g100 the quick transfer I found to be unreliable in connecting so I use a sad adaptor. Normally I usecan excellent Anker 7 in 1 adaptor but this time it was a cheaper adaptor as my good one was back in my room
@@ThatMicro43Guythanks Brian yes the video transfers are slow. Just an observation …when I transfer stills from the EM5 mkiii it’s a lot quicker than my other Oly cameras.
Really bad luck, Brian! I've not had SD card problems, but clearly it can happen. I wonder how many people with cameras with two card slots actually have them set up for redundancy? After all, you can choose to only use one slot, or have the second only be overflow if the first fills up, or JPG on one and RAW on the other, and on.
@@gregfeeler6910 on my EM1/2 and my G9 I keep my largest fastest cards (SDii) in slot 1 and I save all photos to it in raw format along with raw videos, on my 2 slot I store all photos as jpg files . Slot 2 is usually a slower SDi card
@@ThatMicro43Guy That's a great way to do it. JPGs to one cared and RAW to the other, that way you will almost always have your photos in some form.
Oh dear, what a bummer. Having problems myself but different to yours. Managed to get a 72mm polarizing filter stuck on my Oly 12-100 pro lens. Can't unscrew it, its just doesn't want to come off!
I managed to remove one by gently tapping all around the filter, eventually, I got it off, I hope that works for you.
I had similar issue with the G9! I had it setup to record video on one slot and stills to another. It had a bit of a freak out with one of my cards and kept losing random shots. No reason or rhyme……i think it just had an issue with one particular card; just didn’t like it, even after formatting. Couldn’t trust that card again, in the G9. Funnily, it worked perfectly in every other camera before and since!
Had you used that card before in the EM1 without issue? Hope you can get some equally good shots The Second Time Around, as Frank would say!
@@deanrobertnoble138 yes, for several years
We have all done it & regretted the lack of discipline, or as you have demonstrated routine lapsed etc.
A pity that you did not carry a spare card...was one not purchasable in any shop over there?...For your info, SanDisk Extreme Pro SD cards ship with 'Rescue Pro' software that assuredly retrieves all files (stills and videos) from SD cards that get corrupted in camera and throw out 'Card Read error.Format card?' type of an error message..I have encountered it on 3 different occasions with different cards and every single time 'Rescue Pro' was successful in rescuing the files and every single snap was intact.
@@ravineelakantan6417 I actually thought I did have spare cards in the bag……thought being the operative word. The point is though that I’d deliberately gone on holiday mode not photographer mode, these things happen. And if my doing this here can help other people avoid my mistake in the future then that’s what these videos are really for.
The silly thing though is if I were doing a pro shoot I write lists in advance and check everything off with reserves for everything. So it would never have happened.
@@ThatMicro43Guy Appreciate your response...we do commit such errors ( I have on a couple of occasions carried the camera without a memory card!) occasionally and on meeting the consequences, there is still recovery possible if only we resist the temptation to format the card and see if another card can be purchased...also if we had already shot some nice and valuable footage , all the more reason to preserve the corrupted card for retrieval when we get back home .
From spain.Tambien hay gente que compra tarjetas economicas/baratas y asi el riesgo de perder fotos es muy grande.Solucion comprar calidad.😊.Un cordial saludo.
I've had a issues with micro sd cards in my gx9, I get memory card error msg, I even had one card corrupt it's self, but full size so cards are fine, very strange?
@@joelsjkd1 undortunately this was a full sized SD card but I think the reader may have been the issue
Any clue if it is recomended to use micro sd card plus adapter instead of full size ? Seems at some places they are easier to buy, but i dont really trust it because it needs the additional adapter, and is more slippery for the handling.
My wife has an allergy to nuts and the hotel food unfortunately must have had some nut ingredient, so I was unable to go on any trips and was stuck to the Hotel complex so was unable to take any photos on my Gx9
@@markdavies9636 that’s a bummer for you both
I thought for a second you meant it was a bad idea because you didn't like the look of all the concrete buildings by the sea.
You're obviously suffering from the heat, why on earth would you want to go back there permanently?
oh balls. i remember having my gh4 lose photos due to a bad sd card. always keep a reasonably sized decent sd card stored in the bag!
id still go with a camera with dual sd card slots regardless if its holiday or not.
i want pathos weather here.
90 % of photos of english people on vacation are : drunk at pubs. So not big loss 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣