Vice chairman of Xiaomi shocked by how good Tesla FSD is in China
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- Vice chairman of Xiaomi shocked by how good Tesla FSD is in China
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It's sad that China appears happier to appreciate FSD and the technological achievements of Tesla than the US. The only news stories about Tesla in the US, or UK, are negative.
Maybe because in the US Tesla is a common enemy for ICE car companies
American are addict to petrol, that is why.
Elon visits with the Premier of China 🇨🇳 Then FSD gets approved for trials in China. What happens next is the state telling all those heads of ev companies to tow the party line 😂
It's because so many US companies are threatened by Tesla and those companies pay 100s of millions for advertising to different news sites so obviously they have an incentive to display a negative view of Tesla & Musk.
China is the country that embraces the most technology advancement, that's why you see Huawei and Xiaomi flourishing. If FSD works, that means you can pretty much remove 95% of all labor
Chinese CEOs respect innovation and quality, they recognize the investment and work needed to overcome the technical challenges faced by a practical FSD. They welcome a tough competitor, a stark contrast to the belligerent self-protectionist stance of legacy automakers. Tesla will probably license FSD to many lesser known Chinese automakers, allowing them to leapfrog ahead in a competitive unforgiving market.
Collaboration while competing is better than closing each other's doors
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Mr Bin seems very humble
Excellent news. Kudos to
PRC EV brands embrace competition as they each look to build a better product. The competition only makes EVs more attractive compared to ICEVs. The day is fast coming when driving a ICEV/Hybrid SUV, sedan or sports car will feel very passé.
I can only interpret this an announcement that several Chinese BEV companies will announce licensing agreements with Tesla for FSD on 8/8.
That SU7 looks a lot like a Tesla model Y, Glass roof and all.
And 4 wheels?
Thanks again Sam. Really exciting news. I've been using FSD quite a bit in the last 3 weeks after getting the free 1 mo. Trial on my new 2024 model 3. It's very impressive and with the latest update 2024.3.15 with FSD v12.3.4 and Auto Park, virtual flawless. Driving from Seattle WA to Vancouver BC in Canada it only missed a speed reduction sign (25 mph in a normally 40 mph zone).
Will you be keeping FSD after the free trial?
Tell Elon they have kilometers not miles :)
this is really good news - the money is in the software not the hardware. If EM can persuade all the other h/w manufacturers to use his s/w then he doesn't even need to build his own h/w. Furthermore, this may prevent them from bothering to continue to work on their own FSD solutions allowing Tesla to further increase their lead. It may also take market from Nvidia as Tesla FSD will require Tesla h/w 3+ in all the compatible cars... And all this money and experience can be tipped into where the real game is - Optimus.
Aren't Tesla using Nvidia chips to a large extent?
For training - yes - but I believe that the inference chips in the cars are in-house… whereas I expect that the other manufacturers are probably using nvidia at the moment…
When I say h/w here I mean cars until the last mention of Tesla h/w where I mean the h/w that directly supports Tesla FSD - sorry if I was confusing
@AWildBard Nvidia chips are not in the cars. They are only in their Dojo supercomputer. The chips in the cars are custom designed by Tesla.
The hardware is designed to work specifically with FSD. It isn't just some random off-the-shelf board. And it's incredibly energy efficient.
Xiaomi is looking to license FSD from Tesla... which I feel will happen Electric Viking.
Both companies are great
I remember when Giga casting was announced, you and Tesla pumpers said “game over” for other EV maker.
The same when 4680 Giga factory was announced.
The same when Tesla planned $25,000 M2.
All three had failed.
Tesla was forced to pivot to AI, FSD and robotaxis.
How long before they fail?
China BYD has displaced Tesla in a matter of four years, it will do that again to Tesla FSD in shorter time span.
Tesla is not the only game in town.
Wait.. when did giga casting fail? It has made Model 3, Y, and Cybertruck 20% cheaper to build and 2x as fast!
4680 batteries are in Cybertruck that is being produced at a run rate of over 1k a week! Fastest selling truck on the market.
The $25k M2 does not exist, so how did it fail? It was announced, not built yet. Why? Because GM and Ford stopped building EVs at all.
Robotaxi was announced back in 2015. Not sure where you have been. It has not failed either, it has not been released yet.
FSD is a huge success. It has saved hundreds of lives and thousands of accidents.
China BYD is not profitable. BYD is not spending $10 billon this year on compute. BYD has build quality and fire issues.
Tesla is the only game in town that consumers win at.
@@davidbeppler3032
Giga casting was supposed to overwhelm other EV makers in numbers of cheap EVs, had it happened? Tesla is much more expensive than car built by BYD and now Geely.
Giga casting was supposed to build $25,000 M2, had it happened? The best will be the striped down M3, and it will not be $25,000.
According to Reuters, Tesla now abandoning Giga casting.
4680 battery, where is it now? Tesla keeps buying battery from CATL and BYD. The Giga 4680 factories are supposed to supply battery for all Tesla models according to vertical integration principles. Where are 4680 and where is vertical integration?
Robotaxis were speculated and hyped since the beginning but Tesla only pivoted to it after the sale of Tesla went down especially in China and Europe. The writing is on the wall that Tesla is pushed to the margin of producing high end EVs.
With the criminal charge on false advertising of FSD by the DOJ and recent investigation by NHSTA on the Tesla Auto Pilot, do not bet on robotaxis in a near term. It is at least three years away.
The Optimus folding a shirt? It was tele-operated by a human.
Need I say more?
Excellent video. Thanks🙂.
Driving in China is VERY different to in other countries. For example, traffic going straight at lights gives way to turning traffic in the opposite direction. Perhaps this isn't how it is supposed to be as per rules of the road (I don't know), but that's how it is in practice.
There are similar differences between other countries - eg the UK has a 'keep left' rule on motorways, so there's no "undertaking", or "middle lane hogging". That's different to other countries. I wonder what happens with a FSD car going over the boarder between countries with different rules. Theoretically, it might improve the situation since it can more easily adapt, but it does need to know about the differences.
@davidmaxwaterman The Dojo supercomputer will generate a Chinese FSD version using the millions of hours of video footage being recorded by the close to 2 million Tesla cars driving around in China. It will pick up their mannerisms. This is why having a staff of human coders customizing quirks for every country is not the correct solution.
Maybe Tesla China will cooperate with an another AI company for training Chinese version FSD.@@someuser7501
@@someuser7501 I wouldn't be surprised if select staff in China and Germany have been secretly testing their own versions of fsd for months or years in Chinese and German roads. It's hard to believe that China gave approval for fsd last week, someone at Tesla flips the fsd switch, and fsd turns out to be good enough to impress an auto company CEO, all in the course of one week.
It doesn't need to know the difference at all. It will simply be trained on a dataset specific to that country, with that version of FSD being applied to cars in that nation.
Here's how I picture their position: People tend to have strong feelings about what car they own, but not about what cars they hail rides in. If Xiaomi and Xpeng license Tesla's software stack and are acceptable as taxis, suddenly they can be the fleet cars of China. Just like the London government regulates who builds London taxis, the Beijing government can just give a contract to Xpeng to do the whole city. Electric cars, much like smartphones, are basically just an assembly of standard hardware. The software is what really affects the user experience, and that's something they can license. Beijing can dictate the ride prices in such a way that everyone can skim a bit off the top, and there's still enough money to pay for the FSD license. Ten years from now, they hope to have a home-grown FSD that works well enough to ditch Tesla, much like Huawei ditched Google domestically.
Cheers mate
BYD should licence FSD from tesla.
Why? Huawei has a better FSD. BYD should go with Huawei's FSD.
Most people don't seem to understand the Ai learns and works out problems. Imagine it as a learner driver thats just passed its driving test. The difference is it can combine the knowledge of all the other teslas on the road in that country. Say half a million cars for example in China.
So instead of taking years it takes days to become proficient.
close to 2M Tesla cars in China. Almost as many as the US. We can expect a good FSD version to be built for the Chinese market as it has tons of video...but probably not much in the rural areas.
AI learns like a dog if someone teach it .
Is this the Tesla infomercial channel?
I just finished my free one month of Supervised FSD. It is amazing but very unnerving. I don’t see much advantage over the standard autopilot. It’s a bit scary heading to an intersection and putting full faith in the car that it will stop. BTW it’s called Supervised FSD now. If it’s supervised it’s not FSD.
@lawrenceasero2207 What? Autopilot is designed mostly for highways why would you even want to attempt to drive it on local roads with intersections??? Meanwhile I just finished my FSD and found it amazing on local roads and I found it to be excellent and comfortable at intersections. If however I was using Autopilot on locals I'd probably be having a heart attack at intersections.
I don’t use Autopilot other than the highway. I guess I wasn’t clear. Supervised FSD is an oxymoron. I will admit it was amazing how well it navigated a number of situations but I don’t have as much faith as you. There were a few situations where it got confused or sat behind a car where I would have gone around. Can’t see paying for it and don’t see robotaxis anytime soon.
I use fsd everyday and it's been amazing. It's like monitoring a 16 year old being the driver and stepping in if mistakes are being made. On that note, the term supervised FSD isn't an oxymoron unless you imply that FSD must mean it's flawless. I think that a 90% effective fsd is already a huge improvement in quality of life.
When FSD can talk to you like HAL 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey then I'll believe in FSD.
I tried FSD on multiple occasions and it takes turns too closely to the curb. Many times I've had to take control of the steering for fear of hitting the curb. FSD is not ready.
@KP-xi4bj Nobody is saying it is 100% ready. If the top gripe of yours is it being a little too close to the curb during turns in terms of your comfort that shows FSD is far more close to being ready than most people think.
I doubt FSD would work in a country with unpredictable traffic and roads ridden with potholes like Malaysia 😂
China traffic is still crazy. Maybe not so much in Beijing, but say Wuhan, still a megacity. Bikes, animals, ignoring lights, all traffic going wrong way in some spots. But still far safer than USA bc they know the crazy behavior is coming and they also don't drive super fast or weave in and out or take massive drugs
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Right up until traffic doesn't behave in one of the billions of solutions they use to train the system. People keep overlooking it so they can have a new toy. Just yesterday I saw yet another report in the US where a young man turned on self driving I believe beta(or not) and ran over a motorcyclist on the freeway. He turned it on and started watching his phone. When interviewed by the cops he apparently said "oh it's ok I turned on the self driving before I watched my phone". He literally admitted to the actions he took and so is going to be tried for murder. Of course it was everyone else's fault that he killed a motorcyclist. According to everyone rich enough to afford a Tesla, they don't have to drive anymore. Video after video of them not using or even resting on the controls in case of a problem.
We are just so oblivious as a species. I mean to think that a toy is more important than a life. Humans suck. Eat the rich, make a better world.
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wow interesting!
The upvote tab was turned off.
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Now all we need is the rest of the foreign doubters to fly to the US to see first-hand that FSD V12 (the first written by AI instead of the previous V1 through V11 being written by software engineers) is no joke...the AI has come through. It works very well..and the AI continues working night and day regenerating newer and better versions.
This car will disrupt the market : incredibly beautiful, feature full and cheap !
the new FSD bascically happen after elon woke up when chat gpt made world headline end of 2022, he finally realized what Tesla should do to get it right. LLM are commodities, already tens of competitors in the space, even open source models with multi modal abilities. I think Tesla OS and UI is surprisingly the most competitive product Tesla had made so far. there will be tens of assisted conduct softwares in the years to come for companies to license, Tesla advantage will remain system integration, not the FSD itself
Tesla's headstart is having a system in place watching millions of Tesla owners driving even when not in FSD mode. When it detects you doing something successfully that it can't figure out it flags the video and sends it to a server to be used to create a new rule. This real world edge case grabbing is what will make it better than most other systems that rely on just computer simulations generating random scenarios for rule generation.
One shot earning make huge amount of data unnecessary. I heard that argument before, it is not a valid competitive advantage. We are not talking about machine learning but AI. Even annotated text and driving school materials will be enough soon.
Many Chinese companies will be licensing FSD.
It reminds me of infinity g37
I’m shocked
I am shocked that you are shocked.
So why doesn’t the company licence FSD if it’s so good?
Did the CEO of BYD say he was not interested in FSD?? 🇨🇦
Yes and signed up with Nvidia's Thor solution
Call it Xiaomi attitude if you will, but not many tech-savvy people in China are ready to embrace Tesla's FSD just yet.
Yeah Sam, they look good, very good actually, but I think they really need to focus on their QUALITY!
Once they achieve that, well, might end up a Global Auto Industry.
It's looking good, but i'm going to sit back and wait....
please someone tell me. Is FSD working or not?
I keep hearing that it would run over a child (or a doll). And that the accident rate is about 10x more than human driving.
What is actually going on? I don't have 60l laying around to buy a tesla ant check it for myself
It's working as a better version than the prior Beta version. U should be able to get a demo at a Tesla store if ur interested. Go online and setup a test drive at the nearest store to u. Ull be pleasantly surprised.
There are loads of videos about FSD you can watch. The best ones are from Chuck Cook, AI driver and DirtyTesla. The current versions are 12.3.5 and 12.3.6. do not watch any videos of prior versions. Then you can decide whether you think it's working or not. Some people think it's amazing, other people won't be interested until they can sleep in the passenger seat.
FSD will not hit a child nor a child shaped doll. There aren't many accidents caused from FSD. There are hundreds of thousands of videos on V12 fsd on youtube. Just watch a video to see
That accidents news are from Tesla Autopilot, not from FSD 12.
FSD 12 is better than humans already.
Do you have TH-cam app ?……
How is Tesla going to train in China when all their compute is in the US and China won't allow data to leave the country? What am I missing?
I think if Tesla keep calling their system FULL SELF DRIVING many buyers will believe & not monitor the car
Also you will find monitoring drivers wil lose their concentration after a couple of hours & not be ready to take over if the car if necessary, their reaction time will be slowed.
Also if there is a sudden incident where the only choices are a crash or a worse crash will the car do what you want, a lot of years ago I only saved my life was do a 180 degree spin & hit the overturned semi going backwards.
I wonder if a FSD car would allow it.
You obviously don’t have have a Tesla.
1. It’s called Full Self Driving (Supervised). Before it was called Beta, now it’s supervised. Both terms means it needs to be monitored.
2. There are cameras continually monitoring the driver to ensure the are paying attention. You can’t look at your phone, look away from the road, fall asleep, or even let go of the wheel for any length of time without the system giving you alerts and warning you that it’ll cut off. BTW, if you have an episode )diabetic, heart attack, stroke) while driving and don’t respond to the nags it will cut off, then drive you to the side of the road and park itself safely.
3. The car can react much faster than you can and steer correctly out of spins and other odd issues. It can see in 360 degrees and react accordingly unlike us meat bags.
Will there be accidents and deaths with FSD when it’s fully deployed and no longer Supervised? Of course. But the number of people killed on the roads will be greatly reduced. The goal is to get as close to zero as possible, but it’ll never truly get there.
Thepoint I wanted to make it should be named supervied assisred driving not full self driving a lot of people nrvrr read the manual of you could loan it to someone who sees FSD & believe it & jumps in the back seat for a doźe
@@archiefleming652That’s not the way it works. They could try that, and it would pull over and stop. No harm, no foul. It really does monitor you to pay attention.
@@archiefleming652 Ass is red driving? I think I see your problem.
Isnt that the car that was in so many crashes Xiaomi?
Oh we do have rickshaws. Check out some of the FSD drivers in New york city in Times square at night....rickshaws everywhere.
First company to license from Tesla?
Lol. FSD is still stuck at L2. China has better tech. Get out of your ignorant bubble once a while.
@@bubuneowoo6161 imagine having a communist government monitor your every move. Now THATS a bubble 🤣🤣🤣
Wheelsboy said Xpeng XNGP is as good as Tesla's
Yes, they stole some of the FSD tech from Tesla, however the latest development of Tesla's FSD, Xpeng don't have!
Hopefully your not still short NIO 😁
Who will be the first to licence FSD .....hmmmmm?????
US should do the same to innovate technology. protectionism is not a way to innovate technology
You are saying he tested this out in a time and place that was not busy or crowded😂
What will Tesla do with $100 billion in profit a year?
Fine with me if we prioritize China with FSD before domestic auto providers. Snooze you lose. More opportunity in China anyway. Would be amazing revenue if Chinese people get really excited about FSD.
Seems like they would prioritize Cybertruck owners who bought it at a premium, but that's between them and Tesla
Huawei CEO and his family use Apple iPhones.
This is why Elon Musk is doubling down on autonomous technology. Presently under test in America a fully autonomous semi. The self-driving semi, fitted with 25 laser, radar and camera sensors, is owned by Pittsburgh-based Aurora Innovation. This year Aurora plans to start hauling freight on Interstate 45 between the Dallas and Houston areas with 20 driverless trucks, presently Tesla are struggling to finish the Pepsi order for 100 Semis which are not driverless. Then of cause there is Waymo, which is owned by Google's parent company, Alphabet with robotaxi. Phoenix, San Francisco and Austin are currently the only cities where the public can hail a driverless robotaxi, but that list could grow by a dozen or more within the next year. The other technology companies have caught up or surpassed Tesla’s position on autonomous technology, hence the urgency.
The way Chinese drivers drive, if Tesla FSD works in China, then it works everywhere.
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The term "shocked" should get banned from TH-cam.
Chinese manufacturers will line up to sign licensing agreements. Elon isn't looking to crash the industry. He wants the entire auto industry to be successful with EVs.
Lol
You clearly don't follow some Chinese channels about the su7 problems!
Staying is Copy from a Porsche.
Xiaomi also has Software Problems on their electric cars, causing uncontrollable sudden speed up on their electric cars. Many crashes alreaty is happening.
😂👎
Ziaomi is happy because the CCP is happy. No other reason
I’m shocked . Now copy paste
Tesla FSD is good but China learn very fast, better to made money these 5 years or China FDS will be better. 😮😮😮😮
it works well as long as no one is standing on the side of the road with a stop sign printed on his tee shirt
Non-FSD cars work well until girls in bikinis are standing by the side of the road. Then they become unpredictable and a hazard
You must be a Democrat, musk hater. Does free speech trigger you? Lol
Good thing that's not a thing that happens in real life. Only on Mguy's channel.
Let a hundred flowers bloom is really sinister though. The 1950s campaign was followed by a brutal crackdown on those very flowers...
Very Kool. No Elon Derangement Syndrome there.
Mr Bin seems an alright guy and I'm not sure I spelt his surname right
Tesla tesla tesla and tesla m-r-o-o-n all you know is to be paid by tesla
#fakenews. He never said shocked. If describe his translation as "pleasantly surprised" and he would be interested to see "how it does in heavier traffic". Which, well, of doesn't work in real traffic.
$TSLA will drop below $80 dollars this year and shake out most investors before we see new highs
I would love for it to go that low🙏🙏🙏😂
Maybe
So they do not go bankrupt?
@@harrystofberg5794 Longterm $TSLA will be the most valuable company on this planet but until then it will be one bumpy ride!
It's not hard to be impressed by Tesla when your own company makes garbage cars. Look up reviews of Xiaomi's SU7 by Chinese YTers. Not good.
I’m not impressed with Tesla FSD. Mine hit a curb. It doesn’t read yellow speed signs. I sold my Tesla stock because of FSD.
Good- at least your commited🤪or should be. Not sure you’ve heard of this but it’s called improvement… and fsd is improving with every upgrade.
@@manuelmartinez-gq4ij hitting curbs because it cuts right hand turns too close is not improving. It’s bad testing and quality control.
@@manuelmartinez-gq4ij Tesla also sold the Model Y I had a deposit on for my wife. There was a snag on the paper work on a Saturday. Instead of waiting until model for be to get the payoff trade amount they sold the car to someone else. Now they have more cars then they can sell and I’m not buying one!
Nio's William Li is far far better than Lunatic Musk
Yes, he's such a lunatic that his Companies are # 1 in the world in there field.
@@rozonoemi9374 BYD is #1, Tesla is #2.
@China_Rocks In China maybe...but not anymore in world EV sales. BYD only had it for 1 QTR. Look for "Tesla regains top EV seller title as rival BYD's sales fall"
We will look back on this period in history as China leapfrogs the US, starting with EVs today, and in the next 5 years semiconductors and AI. And in 2030, Tesla relocates its HQ to Shanghai.
That's a big NO. LMFAO SMH
@@KP-xi4bj you are scared
@@i6power30 Yes, I am scared ... scared of Chinese branded BEVs catching fire and/or exploding on my roads:
"While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
"On January 14, eight BYD electric buses suddenly caught fire while charging at Qingdao bus station, Shandong, China, and the fire quickly spread to nearby places." - X (Jan.19, 2024)
"Britain's e-bus ticking timebomb: How nearly TWO THOUSAND electric buses worth £800m face urgent recall over fears they could see burst into flames ...
All of the affected vehicles were manufactured between May 3, 2019 and February 6, 2024. They all contain batteries supplied by Chinese firm BYD." - Daily Mail UK (Mar. 2, 2024)
@@i6power30 Yes, I'm scared of fiery/exploding cars:
"While BYD Expands Abroad, Another Han EV Catches Fire - What's Wrong With It?" - autoevolution (Aug. 18, 2022)
"Chinese BYD electric car explodes while charging outside shopping mall" - Newsflare (Sep. 3, 2023)
"BYD electric car catches fire at Hong Kong charging station, expert says short circuit could be the cause" - South China Morning Post (Jan. 26, 2024)
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@@KP-xi4bj Chinese cars are the safest. Much less fire and exploding incidents than US and European cars. You are just cherry picking.