Do a blind coffee taste test. Get three or five different brands of coffee that includes Dunkin' obviously and see if you can pick it out ... Bet ya can't 😎👍
I just looked at some numbers from other golf youtubers with a 21 degree utility and their average spin was in the 3300-4000 range so you’re not too far off. Their obviously were some low spinning ones like in the 2700 range but the averages were close to yours
Average spin for a 2 iron, possibly 3000 to roughly 4500.....NOW (factors in Play) Shaft (Flex, Kick Point) are a huge factor because at the end of the day, if you don’t have the correct shaft based on ones swing, then your hurting yourself. 2nd thing of Course is ones Ball....Ball choice plays another factor, low spin ball vs a high spin ball will play a role with Spin, Control and Distance. Lastly would be based on the Club Head Specs, meaning how it’s designed, Forged vs Cast, Weighting in the head (like a GAPR Lo vs a GAPR Mid/High) everything you have to take into factor if you really want to be OCD (like Me). Taylormade gives me clubs so I’ll push them all day but the P790 UDI and the Sim UDI are probably the Best Driving Irons on the market, with a TP5 is crazy. If I juice it I can get 300 total with my SIM UDI but then my Gaps for my other clubs I have to accommodate for. Shaft I’d recommend would be a GraphiteDesign Tour AD IZ for you. Hope my info helps.
It’s actually baffling to me how you don’t have a full fitted set yet. Stuff flex shafts at your speed are insane. I don’t know how you don’t hit a ton of high spinners and struggle a lot in the wind. My driver speed is 127 which is high but still less than yours and everything in my bag is x stiff tipped in my woods and hard stepped 6.5s in my irons. You should be similar tbh.
Hate to say it but it's absolutely a three iron 😅😅 17-19° is considered a 2 iron, and considering both of these clubs come in 2 and 3 iron.....it's kinda disingenuous to call them 2 irons
Per Wilson's literature, the Wilson Utility is designed to have more stopping power and not roll out as much (as in going for par 5's in 2 and holding the green). Hence the higher launch and slightly higher spin rate. That's what club was designed to do.
Their is not an ideal backspin. It is an ideal combination of launch and backspin which puts it into an optimal trajectory window. If u have 1 iron u like and know the ball flight outdoors, the best way is to compare the 2 like u are doing. I would recommend taking in your own golfball, too. U could use a lower spin ball or a higher spin ball to get to ur desired shot and roll interaction. Lowerspin ball is srixon z-star or titleist -prov1x left dash. High spin ball is tour b330 xs. Tiger likes a lot of spin.
You should check your 4-iron distance vs. your 2-iron. Your current Apex irons are strong lofted and your 4-iron is actually 21* as well. Typically the driving irons spin a little less, but might still be worth checking out just in case.
You should do a part 2 on the grass range with these clubs with also putting a graphite shaft on the Callaway for a comparison. 👍👍 Keep the awesome vids coming.
honestly man, it would be really interesting to see a part 2 of this video where you swap heads and shafts. e.g. what if the higher launch and more carry isn't the wilson, but rather the graphite shaft?
Unfortunately he probably can't switch the shafts due to it being glued in, as far as I know the Cobra Utility is the only adjustable driving iron. But the higher launch and more carry definitely is the combo of the wilson head plus the shaft. Theres a larger CG on the wilson head causing it to launch higher and spin just a tad more, its probably the most forgiving driving iron on the planet. Plus im assuming thats a KBS hybrid shaft which is a mid launch/mid spin shaft. Where as the Project X is a low spinning/low launch steel shaft. I like a very low spinning driving iron so i can run it, but I dont use it much unless it's off the tee. P790 UDI with a HZRDUS smoke shaft creates the perfect low spinning driving iron.
@@volcomsnow25 yes, it can be done. just take 'em to a club fitter who will heat 'em up with a blow torch and pop the heads off. it's a very easy job, just takes a day or so for the new epoxy to dry.
@@volcomsnow25 You can do most with a simple heat gun, ive only had two clubs that I've had to use a torch and both were old ping putters.. You can also get a 30 minute cure and 5 minute work time two part opoxy and have them back together in no time. It so much easier than you would expect lol.
@@brianlowery5343 yep, heat gun or blow torch. however, i wouldn't suggest the DIY route with graphite because it can easily break (e.g.) unless you have a shaft puller.
Got a Callaway Xforged UT bent to a 1 iron with a 130g X100 shaft in it and an align grip. It is so much straighter than a fairway wood for me it's absurd. Great stuff!
love the simulator session, go in to test a couple things in the bag and you always gotta juice the last few w/ each club to see what you can get out of em haha
Great content man! Family friendly, my son and I love to watch u crush it. 2 irons are awesome, takes a lot skill. Keep hustling, 100k subs before u know it
I think you should put a graphite shaft in the Callaway. I also think you’re cheating yourself by only considering these two clubs. Srixon makes a GREAT driving iron that o think you should try.
For the loft of 21* the spin isn't too bad, I would expect it to be in the mid 3000's. Not sure what flex the shafts are, but if they are stiff an x-flex will help reduce the spin if that's what you want. Otherwise its just loft, one degree less will get it down in the 3000's more consistently. The 4000 rpm spin for that loft and low trajectory will help you hold greens, a 21* hybrid is very similar in spin, but with a much higher ball flight. Great ball striking! A driving iron off the deck isn't for everyone, but you make it look easy
If u can hit 2 iron 260 and need help with spin.......SHM LOL u don’t need help slow down Superman. Put it a half ball to ball forward. Your AOA is prob crazy
typically you want your spin rate to be whatever number iron you're hitting times 1000, wilson ideal spin 3,000-4,000 spin rate. Callaway 2,000-3,000 spin rate.
GOOOOD-NISSS! not sure what’s better: the swing or the commentary, but both are great! I wonder if I could pound a 2 iron 3 hundy if I drank dunkin’ coffee.
Anyone have a recommendation for a good left handed driving iron? Unfortunately wilson doesn’t make a left handed option for the utility iron. Looking at the Srixon ZX right now, but I primarily want forgiveness
Crazy idea just get a graphite shaft for the Callaway. But personally I'd stick with wilson. Yes I'd love to see more comparisons, especially on new cobra f9 sz one length irons. My wife got me a new set for Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
Do a blind coffee taste test. Get three or five different brands of coffee that includes Dunkin' obviously and see if you can pick it out ... Bet ya can't 😎👍
No matter what 2 iron you have in your hands it's just pure.
Truth
Facts
It's a driving iron/ utility iron... not a 2 iron
I just looked at some numbers from other golf youtubers with a 21 degree utility and their average spin was in the 3300-4000 range so you’re not too far off. Their obviously were some low spinning ones like in the 2700 range but the averages were close to yours
21 degrees is definitely more a 3 iron. 17-19 degrees is a 2 iron
Your connection with the Wilson staff is legendary, can't wait to see the numbers
Dope club. Just picked up the 18° to replace my 5 wood. Best decision yet. Fairway finding machine😎
Tig how’s the spelling for the title of this video😭
Forched 😉
lmaooooo
He's foraged the forest for it. Alliteration aside
He foraged it
hes just expanding his search reach to those outdoors people who forage for mushrooms. maybe get them interested in golf
The editor just comments for the algorithm.
Love your vids subscribe and like the vid
Average spin for a 2 iron, possibly 3000 to roughly 4500.....NOW (factors in Play) Shaft (Flex, Kick Point) are a huge factor because at the end of the day, if you don’t have the correct shaft based on ones swing, then your hurting yourself. 2nd thing of Course is ones Ball....Ball choice plays another factor, low spin ball vs a high spin ball will play a role with Spin, Control and Distance. Lastly would be based on the Club Head Specs, meaning how it’s designed, Forged vs Cast, Weighting in the head (like a GAPR Lo vs a GAPR Mid/High) everything you have to take into factor if you really want to be OCD (like Me). Taylormade gives me clubs so I’ll push them all day but the P790 UDI and the Sim UDI are probably the Best Driving Irons on the market, with a TP5 is crazy. If I juice it I can get 300 total with my SIM UDI but then my Gaps for my other clubs I have to accommodate for. Shaft I’d recommend would be a GraphiteDesign Tour AD IZ for you. Hope my info helps.
You really ought to try the ping G410 crossover 20° driving iron. I bought it over the Wilson, I just love it. I'd love to know what you think.
If you want to really learn about some numbers if you haven’t watched any videos from TXG on TH-cam you should give them a look. 👍
If you want to learn more about golf equipment, numbers and stuff like that watch TXG. You’d learn a lot that could help
sub 70 makes a pro utility iron with a hzrdous black shaft and custom grip for under $140. its a rocket launcher!
Fix that title Tig!! Do like "Wilson vs Callaway 2 iron battle" or something cheesy to get those viral passersby viewers
No
Where all my true 2ers at?!?!? #19degrees.
Need to go north of the border and have TXG fit you.
Yo micah, in all these videos we see you drinking coffee and we still dunno what kind of coffee you get? Let us know bro 😂
When is the mizuno driver coming??
Micah, 10 minutes and 2 sleeves of pro Vs would be all you need on the course! OUTSIDE
There's a reason he hasn't acknowledged any questions regarding the mizuno... It was a paid advertisement.
@@DonaldGMan you sure?
@@colinhutch737 driver should have been free at least lol
Why would he switch if M2 already works so well?
Why not put the KBS graphite shaft in the Callaway?
“You know what guys... I don’t know a lot about numbers and stuff like that” another gem
It’s actually baffling to me how you don’t have a full fitted set yet. Stuff flex shafts at your speed are insane. I don’t know how you don’t hit a ton of high spinners and struggle a lot in the wind. My driver speed is 127 which is high but still less than yours and everything in my bag is x stiff tipped in my woods and hard stepped 6.5s in my irons. You should be similar tbh.
Yeah I was literally just gonna say idk how he isnt swinging like x-stiff 130 g iron shafts and like x-stiff 75 g driver shaft
Hate to say it but it's absolutely a three iron 😅😅 17-19° is considered a 2 iron, and considering both of these clubs come in 2 and 3 iron.....it's kinda disingenuous to call them 2 irons
Good Good sold out too easily. Brice and George made smart business decisions.
Per Wilson's literature, the Wilson Utility is designed to have more stopping power and not roll out as much (as in going for par 5's in 2 and holding the green). Hence the higher launch and slightly higher spin rate. That's what club was designed to do.
Their is not an ideal backspin. It is an ideal combination of launch and backspin which puts it into an optimal trajectory window. If u have 1 iron u like and know the ball flight outdoors, the best way is to compare the 2 like u are doing. I would recommend taking in your own golfball, too. U could use a lower spin ball or a higher spin ball to get to ur desired shot and roll interaction. Lowerspin ball is srixon z-star or titleist -prov1x left dash. High spin ball is tour b330 xs. Tiger likes a lot of spin.
You can play on my scramble team (with either 2 iron) any day
really need to compare how they feel off grass too. callaway looks like it would dig in more
Honestly I feel like u should get graphite irons so it will feel more confident
You need to try a taylormade p790 2 iron with a kbs c taper 130x. You won’t find a lower spinning 2 iron. Low launching, low spinning, greatness.
You should check your 4-iron distance vs. your 2-iron. Your current Apex irons are strong lofted and your 4-iron is actually 21* as well. Typically the driving irons spin a little less, but might still be worth checking out just in case.
3 hybrid vs 3 iron. I have both but not a big fan of the hybrid
Why didn’t you get the Wilson staff model irons as well?
I think Callaway offered to send all the good good guys irons
Like the trajectory on the Callaway better
You should do a part 2 on the grass range with these clubs with also putting a graphite shaft on the Callaway for a comparison. 👍👍 Keep the awesome vids coming.
You should try out the Mizuno mp20 2 iron
Callaway 18 degree 2 iron is a rocket
Do you have a bow looks like u represent Hoyt
When are you getting a dunkin sponsor?
How about a hybrid/3 wood vs 2 iron video?
try playing with the weight in the Wilson to see if that changes things up a bit. maybe get the best of both worlds
honestly man, it would be really interesting to see a part 2 of this video where you swap heads and shafts. e.g. what if the higher launch and more carry isn't the wilson, but rather the graphite shaft?
Unfortunately he probably can't switch the shafts due to it being glued in, as far as I know the Cobra Utility is the only adjustable driving iron. But the higher launch and more carry definitely is the combo of the wilson head plus the shaft. Theres a larger CG on the wilson head causing it to launch higher and spin just a tad more, its probably the most forgiving driving iron on the planet. Plus im assuming thats a KBS hybrid shaft which is a mid launch/mid spin shaft. Where as the Project X is a low spinning/low launch steel shaft. I like a very low spinning driving iron so i can run it, but I dont use it much unless it's off the tee. P790 UDI with a HZRDUS smoke shaft creates the perfect low spinning driving iron.
@@volcomsnow25 yes, it can be done. just take 'em to a club fitter who will heat 'em up with a blow torch and pop the heads off. it's a very easy job, just takes a day or so for the new epoxy to dry.
@@volcomsnow25 You can do most with a simple heat gun, ive only had two clubs that I've had to use a torch and both were old ping putters.. You can also get a 30 minute cure and 5 minute work time two part opoxy and have them back together in no time. It so much easier than you would expect lol.
@@brianlowery5343 yep, heat gun or blow torch. however, i wouldn't suggest the DIY route with graphite because it can easily break (e.g.) unless you have a shaft puller.
What I like about Micah is that he is committed to improving.
Got a Callaway Xforged UT bent to a 1 iron with a 130g X100 shaft in it and an align grip. It is so much straighter than a fairway wood for me it's absurd. Great stuff!
keep up the simulators!!! I like seeing numbers on hits!!!!
love the simulator session, go in to test a couple things in the bag and you always gotta juice the last few w/ each club to see what you can get out of em haha
The matthew mcconaughey Alright alright alright intro
Great content man! Family friendly, my son and I love to watch u crush it. 2 irons are awesome, takes a lot skill. Keep hustling, 100k subs before u know it
Id prefer the Wilson. Higher launch and more spin. Better suited to hold greens if needed on long par 5s.
Yo tig, is it standard length 2irons?
You hit you 2 iron as far as my driver
I'd like to see a comparison of the Sim and Titlest drivers!!!
I just found that Callaway UT 21 degree driving iron for $60 and can't wait to replace my hybrid with it. I can't hit it 280, but that's ok ;)
I hit a 2 hybrid about that distance
The legendary 2 iron.
Super informative too
When is the mizuno driver going to be put in the bag.
I think you should put a graphite shaft in the Callaway. I also think you’re cheating yourself by only considering these two clubs. Srixon makes a GREAT driving iron that o think you should try.
Why does tig call it a two iron. 21 degrees is a 3 iron
A 2 hybrid is a good option for people that struggle with ball contact
People commenting about lofts of 2 irons being 17-19 degrees probably play a 29 degree 7 iron and 40 degree pitching wedge 😂
MICAH IF YOU SEE THIS, please try the gapr low! You won’t be disappointed!! And THANK YOU FOR THE LIKE!!!
Why a 2 iron and not a 2 hybrid?
Either way Micah hits is 2 iron 300 yards
Like this bro .numbers are incredible 🏴👊🏻
You should try a taylormade! UDI SEE HOW THAT WORKS FOR YOU!
Diggin the hat. Got the same hat in a different color when I bought my new bow
can you go pro already? lol
I have the srixon Z U85 2 iron in a graphite shaft and i absoloutely love it! You should try it! Greetings from iceland🤟🏼
Wadda 2 iron stress free golf
For the loft of 21* the spin isn't too bad, I would expect it to be in the mid 3000's. Not sure what flex the shafts are, but if they are stiff an x-flex will help reduce the spin if that's what you want. Otherwise its just loft, one degree less will get it down in the 3000's more consistently. The 4000 rpm spin for that loft and low trajectory will help you hold greens, a 21* hybrid is very similar in spin, but with a much higher ball flight. Great ball striking! A driving iron off the deck isn't for everyone, but you make it look easy
If u can hit 2 iron 260 and need help with spin.......SHM LOL u don’t need help slow down Superman.
Put it a half ball to ball forward. Your AOA is prob crazy
I play vintage Hogan 2 irons!!! These new driving irons are nice but nothing beats a forged classic as far as feel and control!!
Too many adds brah
typically you want your spin rate to be whatever number iron you're hitting times 1000, wilson ideal spin 3,000-4,000 spin rate. Callaway 2,000-3,000 spin rate.
You should check out the Titleist 2 iron with the HZRD X-Stiff shaft
tig i think you should do a full bag fitting, that would be awesome to watch
Love these videos
GOOOOD-NISSS! not sure what’s better: the swing or the commentary, but both are great! I wonder if I could pound a 2 iron 3 hundy if I drank dunkin’ coffee.
Please stop calling utility irons 2 irons... that's like calling hybrids irons
Tig lemme tell ya. In Massachusetts, home of the sacred Dunkin, it is indeed snowy and I got my Dunkin right here to my Roger.
Are you dunkin sponsored? That would be such a strange golf sponsor but I dig it
I think the Wilson is a better club with more potential.
Typically a 21 degree is a 3 iron. Also you need a TX flex with a 90-100 grams in weight shaft with your speed.
Just got the Callaway on Callaway preowned for only $100, so pumped! Love the vid
I like these comparison videos. You should do some hybrids like ping g425 and mizuno or something.
Anyone have a recommendation for a good left handed driving iron? Unfortunately wilson doesn’t make a left handed option for the utility iron. Looking at the Srixon ZX right now, but I primarily want forgiveness
Outta breath
Yeah it's def the soft graphite shaft making it spin more. Stiffer graphite and I think you got your club in either head
when I hit my 2 iron perfect it is around 3500 spin and 12 degrees of launch. generally carries 275-280 and sometimes rolls to 300
Crazy idea just get a graphite shaft for the Callaway. But personally I'd stick with wilson. Yes I'd love to see more comparisons, especially on new cobra f9 sz one length irons. My wife got me a new set for Christmas. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
"I don't know a lot about... numbers... and all that"
Got me busting up over here man. Great vid. Keep up the good work!
290 yard 2 iron. A 21 degree lofted club - 290 yards. And super smooth swing, even when you got after it.
The shaft was the difference maker. Find the right shaft. It changes everything. You almost can’t compare these two in this
ever try the TaylorMade p790 UDI 2 iron? I'm between that and the Callaway at the moment..
Reviews and comparisons are always great. G'jab.
Tig my man, I love this shit, it's like you have become the madd scientist, the brain is mightier than the sword.......
Ask your local club builder to bend the Wilson 1 or 2 degrees stronger, will lower the spin
Dude I have a Titleist U510 2 iron and its an absolute rocket! U think you should compare its less forgiving version to your current 2 iron
3700 backspin with a two iron is great. 3000 will make it drop out of the air with a really flat ball flight.