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- Our 3 favorite and 3 least favorite parts about being gay! What are yours? Let me know in the comments below.
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I'm so gIad you got with him, Chris! The two TH-camrs who I Iove the most ! *kisses*
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How nice you both collab together!! Good subject material!
Chris. Why do you look sad lately? Are you OK? Everything ok?
I'm almost 63 and I met my partner in 1986 we were both construction workers so we passed as straight until we told people. We had a great full life together our families knew and we were loved by both sides . I sadly lost my husband Danny a month after our 34th anniversary. 21 months ago. When you find your special guy never forget what got you two together in the first place. Gay life is sad if you think about it for those that go from guy to guy always looking for the next best thing. Find someone you want to be with for the long haul and you will have a great life
I’m glad you found love and had that great life together. Sorry for your loss though.
Sorry for your loss, thank you for sharing.
I'm really sorry for your loss but you were also incredibly lucky. What nobody talks about is the extreme loneliness; it feels as though everyone else got a book that I missed. Hope to find somebody someday. So far it's just been straight men who are on the downlow. The man I was in love with the most would literally screw girls in front of me. And it was not and awesome three-way situation. We shared a college dorm room and I loved him very much. When he couldn't find a girl he would proposition me. We had a lot of fun and he was my first. Years later he's married to a woman with two kids and has a great career. And me despite having done everything I was supposed to do with education including having a master's degree I'm in a dead end job. Both my college degrees seem to be wasted. I have a mountain of debt that I will never come out from under. And I'm still lonely as hell. He gets the family and the job. Despite being a jerk. I'm sorry I'm just having a bad day. It's just nobody told me being gay would be this lonely. I just want someone to come home to. And a couple of kids wouldn't hurt. I just don't think that's ever gonna happen. So if you have somebody special hang on with everything within reason. Don't tolerate an abusive relationship by any means but outside of those circumstances fight with every fiber of your being to keep the one you have. Because like some of us you may never get another one.
@@bluewheels3980 I know what you mean I was a virgin until I was 25 and I finally accepted being gay but after going out and hooking up I realized that the gay community was becoming very lonely. I was tired of meeting someone and then they are always looking for the next best thing and moved on. I had just given up when on a Christmas night I went to the bar just to wish a couple friends I had made a merry Christmas but they weren't out. I looked across the bar and I spotted this beautiful man staring my way so I looked around to see who he was looking at and to my surprise it was me. I got nervous and went to the dance bar and I looked up and he had followed me there and bought me a drink. I was always very shy but I thought I had to go and thank this man for the drink and we clicked and we moved in together 2 months later and spent the next 34 years together. So don't give up your guy may be right around the corner. Best wishes
@@williamarmstrong7007 you have no idea how much those words of encouragement mean. Sometimes I just feel totally lost. I was never really one of those people who hated themselves being gay. And I'm glad I was born in the time that I was. I know older generations such as yourself had it harder. I fully acknowledge that. However I also feel as if we were sold a bill of goods as children by well-intentioned people. I thought once you came out the hard part was over. I thought it was all going to be will and grace sunshine and rainbows with a fully accepting an open community. And there is some of that to be sure but there's also no whole lot of judgment and in the beginning without going into detail I lost a lot. Right now my only solace is that unlike a lot of the men I have slept with, I never lied to a girl and made her fall in love. I've never even slept with a girl. I've had several offers and was curious but I knew I could never feel for a girl the way I do for a boy. I'm sorry for rambling I wasn't sure where I was going but thank you for everything not only leaving me this message but fighting some of the hard fights so young queer ass doesn't have to.
Best part of being gay: You know what other gay men like.
Worst part of being gay: Having to come out over and over again.
I thought "People trying to kill the one you love", "Losing your home, job, etc." would be higher up the list ? Nice to know times have changed / are changing in a lot of places !
The happiness n good moods are fun after all misery is terrible
Now ain't that the "God's Honest Truth" Not that I believe in god or anything but that is accurate as hell for me as I move all over the world on a regular basis.
The best thing for us older gays is just seeing how positive and open and happy young guys like you two are. It’s why we paved the way.
Hear! Hear! I'm 73 myself, and I know EXACTLY what you mean!
Aww... We love and appreciate you guys!!
Thank you for paving the way! :)
75 here and I agree! Chris, those beach interviews you do, had I tried that when I was 22 (1970), I would have been arrested at best and beaten up at worst. It is a bright new world now for gays, and you had better go out and fully enjoy it! BTW, those of us that had live-in partners back then had to keep it secret and maintain 2 landlines (there were no cells).
As a 50 year old gay man who's first Pride march was 30 years ago now, I have to say this comment got me right in the heart. This IS why we paved the way and I'm proud to have been a part of it.
Thank you for the recognition of the fact that older gay men have missed out on so much. I was 58 years old by the time I was honest about who I was. I remember the first time I saw two teenage guys walking along the street hand in hand (and it really isn't that long ago). When I got home, I just sat and cried. It was wonderful to see that they felt comfortable enough to be able to do that, but it hurt so much but I never had that privilege. Make the most of what you have, but always be aware that there are many people out there who really don't want you to have it.
So should I despair for what they were denied?
@@MFTH-cam683 no. You should be happy that times have changed. In many counties you’d be shot if you held hands with another man.
I am not suggesting for one moment that anybody should despair for what has happened in the past. The fact that we can talk like this now is proof of the fact that in the end, we won. I think my reaction was because it was a mixture of absolute joy that things had changed so much mixed with regret that change came so late in my life. What I would say is that there are still a lot of people out there who believed the change is wrong. Be on your guard and whilst celebrating your new found freedom be careful of those who would take it away and fight without ceasing for those in countries where things are still bad and in some cases worse than we could possibly imagine.
much love ♥️
@@eddiefniii I know. That‘s why I‘m tired of the endless victimization
Thanks for the kind words! I have been a gay activist since the 1970s. I came out at that time and that was sort of the beginning of the "sexual revolution" in the USA. Those people who came before me - born in the 1940s and earlier - really suffered, and quite right, many married women and had families. Sometimes that worked out, but often it did not. There was a lot of alcoholism, divorces, and hard feelings.
These days, kids are SO much more fortunate! The idea that I could take my boyfriend to the Senior Prom? OMG! I would have LOVED to have done that, but in 1973, that was never going to happen.
Thanks for acknowledging us "seniors." It is much appreciated!
I appreciate Art’s empathy for the older generation; it probably comes from his own experience with oppression. Coming out late in life is not as simple as the current generation may think.
Hey, guys. I'm 59 and appreciated your shout-out to the older generation. Keep up the good work!
That’s so gay
I'm in my sixties. I was out on the scene back in the 1970s. It was different then. We didn't label ourselves back then. I remember the first night out, and having the best time. You are right about getting along with females. Most ladies are cool about gay guys. I have never felt comfortable around straight men. They seem to be unpredictable. I've had a number of negative experiences with them. They can be hostile. Alot of gay men that I have met over the years only wanted sex. They didn't want friendship. Sad really. That might be different now with you young guys ?. I live in New Zealand and back in the 1980s, I campaigned when the Homosexual Law Reform Bill was going through Parliament. It got passed, and I'm proud that I was a part of that change. I think I would be regretting it if I hadn't done anything. Interesting hearing from you young ones. From Carl 💋 kisses to you both.
I think it's the same now. I'm a millennial and came out of the closet 10 years ago and to this day I don't have any close gay friends to hang out with, only my husband. All other gay men I meet only want sex. It's easier to be friends with women, I guess.
@@JEGoblin Gosh the comment i made months ago. I had forgotten about it. Looks like things haven't changed judging by what you say. You have a husband, that didn't happen for me. I live on my own which i prefer. No longer go out on the gay scene. I couldn't careless about it. I wouldn't have sex anymore either. And when i was young i was keen. Ha !. Life is quiet now and I'm so much happier. I'm not lonely. I have the lord in my life too, and i have my reasons for that. Kind Regards. From Carl.
It’s the same, most gay men only want sex, not friends. Sad.
What a great chat you guys had here! I agree with you both. I owned a nightclub (Disco) in the 70's. The door was always locked and you only got in if you were known by another person.
The door question was :Who sent you here?" and the answer was "Mary sent me". Our punch line was always "Mary is a boys name!", lol.
Shout out to older gay men who paved the way! ❤🏳🌈
I came out in 1984 during the depths of the AIDS pandemic in America.
I'm very proud of the younger gay guys with kind hearts.
So true about money and knowing yourselves sexually!! I know because I raised two kids to adulthood, my wife died and then I ended up 8 years later marrying my husband!! Had I been gay all my life without kids I estimate I would have had at least $1.5 million more money!! However, with that said, I am sooo happy with my 2 beautiful daughters and 4 grandchildren! So worth it!! Plus, my husband who never had kids got a readymade family in the bargain!!
The best collab in lgbt 🏳️🌈 history
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Love Art and Chris. Outstanding vlog guys. Love being Gay. Wish I had come out sooner. I'm 51 now. Only came out 4 years ago.
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@@victordepaul1061 Hi Bro. 💪💪😎😎
Same here. 67 came out at 65.
I am thrilled to see you both together in person. I subscribe to both channels. I admire how Art had mastered English and is so sensitive at the same time. How did this meeting come about?
Be happy!
Thank You Art thank you thank you I am older (70s) there just was never a way to come out back in the day played sports went in the army went to Viet Nam My family was from the south and totally non_tolerent working construction gays just were nt excepted at all It made for a very lonely life sort of But to hear someone your age acknowledge this and mention it was really special You have no idea how many people you touched Thank You
Thank you sending love ❤
How very true. Excellent video. Lucky to be able to express your self in today's world.
Amen. Well said
This is a very meaningful discussion. Art and Chris get deep and profound with their thoughtful and well expressed answers. These guys have wisdom beyond their years, and they are both genuinely beautiful souls.
Gay men dislike me a lot for some reason, straight curious dudes are chill asf with me
I am 74 but did not come out to my family until I was 57. In the 50s and 60s it was illegal to be homosexual and could result is jail time, also it was considered a mental health issue until the medical establishment removed it from their books in the 60s. Today it is so much
easier to be oneself ever though there is a lot of homophobia still out there. I admire both of you for what you are talking about openly and wish you both health and happiness in all that you do. Peace ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Art and Chris is a very good chat and I like the content & topic you chose to talk about. You both collaborate really well together and continue the good work.
Thank u ❤
Art is so charming. I enjoyed the rapport you two share.
One thing I like about being gay is that we seem to have better taste in general... clothing, furniture, etc. And definitely smell better.
I also like guys who are on the softer side. Gentle, kind, considerate. Few straight men have those qualities.
What I don't like is the bitchiness, pettiness, and mean girl nonsense. That is unique to gay men. Straight men don't do that stuff.
I don't like that people assume you don't care for typically straight hobbies. I definitely know more about home improvement, fixing things, and cars unless you work in that field. No, I'm not at home at night giving myself a manicure and watching real housewives.
Thank you for such a nice comment
I couldn’t agree more! I loved the rapport between them, too!
I also agree that the stereotypes are a hard thing to societally overcome. I like some sports and yes, the lycra and tights pads, gear, and suits are hot, but it’s not just about the outfits - I like the sport itself too. I like cleaning, home improvement, car and computer building stuff, not just mani’s and pedi’s. Great points! ❤
Gay men have the worst qualities of men and women combined lol The pettiness and bitchiness of a girl combined with the horniness and lack of commitment of straight men.
That was very sweet and heartwarming. While being gay continues to have huge challenges, it is much easier today than in the past. When I was growing up, I didn't even know the word "gay," and it really was not a part of the vernacular then. So, feeling "different" and not knowing what it was made life a challenge. And then my three best friends from high school died from AIDS in the '80s. It makes me happy that you guys can be so free. But keep up the work--there still is more to do.
….and that’s how the Art and Chris podcast became a thing.
Yes please
I agree with Arti I’m 42 and didn’t come out till I was 21 in 2001. In my teenage years 93 to 99 I join in the protests for our right without family knowing. Although for me my family was accepting I was lucky.
Chris and Art doing a collab.... Absolutely awesome. When i saw the title I was like wait, what? You're both fine young men, and I love both of your channels. One thing I've always said about Art is that he's wise beyond his years............ Him growing up in Ukraine you can see how he loves the freedom we have here in the states. He's a pretty amazing guy.
You both had great likes, and dislikes about being gay.
I think a follow up would be nice to see. But with an added twist...........
Add Cali to the mix, and get his input on a few things. I bet he and Art would hit it off really well. And the 3 of you together.......... I'm sure that would be a video to remember. :)
That my friends hit home so much. I am 65 years old and finally came out to my family, what's left anyway. because I felt that all this time I had so many pent-up desires that I couldn't take it anymore! The fact that today's society is so much more accepting made the decision easier but having to grow old living another truth took its toll. Thanks for keeping us in your thoughts about how the struggle was REAL up until a few years ago. Bless you, both, and continued success in both of your lives!
Such a good conversation. I love being gay, and having straight and gay friends. As an older guy in a 26 year relationship/marriage I am perfectly content and comfortable in the world I’ve created. As two young guys you are in your building, explorative and social stage of life. The older you get the more at peace you become.
Great video. Great topic. I could talk about it for hours. But just wanted to say thanks. As a 70 year old, I really appreciate your understanding and empathy for what it was like growing up in a not so gay friendly time. BUT, I made it through, so life is good.
Chris, you have the most fabulous friend in straight Calvin - share that with Art (and us). So good to see you two together: you have a natural affinity.
Wow, thank you so much for acknowledging the struggle we older gays endure. It gives me much joy to watch you smile, laugh and freely explore. I live vicariously through you. The other side of all this newfound joy is that homophobia is so deep seated even in us old gays that we old guys will never be free of fear. Thank you again, 67 from WA
I love being out and proud 🌈 ,showing others not to be ashamed for being gay but I hate that there's a smaller pool to fish in to find real love and commitment,me being 44 yrs old and all.
Im 56 years old i told my parent's i was gay when i was 16 and they kicked me out I have never seen them since as they are not happy with gay guys. One more thing I would just like to say to Artiomboy the UK is behind you all the way love and respected too you your family and all in your cuntry xxxxxxxx
Chris, it’s kind of amazing how you have matured in the last couple of years and have become a more engaging personality. Awesome.
Really very, very sweet of you to shout out the gay elders. You guys are fantastic!
I hate constantly having to come out whenever someone assumes you're straight.
But one thing I do like is not being held to the same stereotypes as straight guys.
That too as well as being bi sexual and dating a guy then woman come out of the woods and are like where can I find a guy like you or to bad your gay I would of totally went out with you. 🙄
It annoys me too alot of ppl think im straight, we just went on a vacation to the US and was telling some customers at where i work and the question that i always get asked is "Did you go with your wife"? lol, i said no i went with my partner
What a wonderful discussion, which should continue, regardless of rights being passed and strides met. We should all never fake for granted any of the rights we have been blessed with...remember someone came before each of us to start the discussion...and the fight...
Hardest part for me being gay, was I had terrible time when I was younger and I put this down to my catholic upbringing. It was only when as an adult I moved out and away from all that BS, that I was able to be my true self and happy. Great clog btw 😎
This colab is so fun! Art's viewpoints in particular are surprising in how they connect with my thoughts. The first one about enjoying the challenge (for me, of being different than the stereotype of everyone else) was my favorite. On the other hand, I have never had a problem making straight friends, and in fact, for good or for bad, many or my best friends are straight. They are are confindent enough in thier own sexual identity that they could not care less about mine. Great video!
Thank u ❤😊
You guys are soo lucky 😭 As an Indian, I'd be ostracized if my straight friends knew I was gay
@@Himanshu_Singh793 sending hugs - many societies still have a long way to go in terms of LGBTQ acceptance
@@hge437 thanks 🥺💖
It's true, India has a long way to go. Though it's legally ok to be gay, the government doesn't recognize gay marriages. Obviously one could marry their partner in a religious ritual but it won't get legal recognition and society would look down upon it.
@@Himanshu_Singh793 I stay hopeful that when the change happens, it can happen very quickly like it did in the US - gay rights has become widely accepted in the short amount of time since the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage in 2015. Hoping the same will happen everywhere and in my home country (China)
So happy you guys have met up! My 1 best thing about being gay - assuming you’re out - is to know I can finally be my true self where I had to hide/deny drowning with shame every day. So really the best thing about being gay is I’m now happy!!!!
Agree, noone should have to hide their true self
An excellent and insightful discussion you two have here. And, as others have noted, thanks for the shout-out to older guys!
Bravo guys! What a wonderful discussion. I’m so excited that these two super cute guys met! I’ve watched you both separately for a quite while and always found your content amusing and fun, but today you really strove to get deeply reflective about life living as young gay men in America. As a gay man born in the early ‘60s, it’s interesting to hear your perspective because it underscores how profoundly things have improved for our community. Not that homophobia and resentment isn’t still expressed by some toward the LGBTQ+ community, but if you compare the ‘70s and ‘80s to the last 20 years, it’s really incredible how far we have come. But we can’t get complacent! We need to keep working to further expand our community’s rights and legal protections. We must stay vigilant and push back against those forces that would gladly dismantle all we’ve achieved. Just consider the recent SCOTUS ruling on Roe v. Wade. With one ruling, a federally protected right to an abortion that women had enjoyed for over 50 years vanished overnight. That could easily happen with gay marriage and other of our milestones. As a staunch Independent voter, I urge everyone to vote for Democratic candidates this fall to protect our future, not because that party has all the answers, but because the Republican party has none for our community! 🤓
Excellent discussion. I look forward to seeing more in the future, guys! You work well together! 😎🌴👍
Lovely thoughts from both of you, as an older person what you say resonates on so many levels. 😊
That was so sweet. I'm 65 and was indeed asked to leave my house at 19 when I came out. But things got better, and my mom made sure I understood that she knew she was wrong. She paid for my wedding in the end! You could live pretty openly in the 70s if you were somewhere like NYC or Western Europe. I was in Spain in the 80s, and it was also fine if you were out in Barcelona. However, it's true that there was a lot more overt homophobia.
this is a very thoughtful video, both of you did well. I love the comment about older gays. well done guys,
thank you, Phil
You helped me to Coming out Chris so continue all you do ! i'm 28 and 15years ago it wasn't like today so that's hard ! Now i'm out of the closet :)
Def much easier to come out today thankfully
Thanks for this boys, as an older gay man who only came out at 42 it’s lovely to hear you had been thinking of us! Love your channels both - sending love ❤️
Chris, this 'sit down' discussion, with Art, of likes and dislikes was very well done.
Art Bezrukavenko and Stan Chris together as gay playmates in a discussion on issues involving gay people is like gay heaven for those people from the gay community who were denied normalcy in their lives due to the extremely stiff forms of discrimination and prejudices and ignorance and persecutions carried out against gay community people by the hugely arrogant straight people of the straight society who get their kicks out of mocking and ridiculing our brutally shattered lives in the gay community due to hostile opposition which paralysed and destroyed our lives in the gay community of gay people. They were the hungry wolfs and vultures who gobbled us up without a second thought. But now I feel better with you guys around for company who can actually understand where we are coming from. Our perspectives and points of view in a gay friendly tolerant atmosphere of companionship and goodwill towards each other for us to be able to survive in the hostile straight world of straight people. We desperately need each other to survive. I know because I've seen it all I've been through it all and still somehow I managed to survive when many others perished and couldn't make it to the victory line at the end of the tunnel of love. Best Wishes And Good Luck For The Future. Happy Diwali 2022 and Merry Christmas 2022 . With Love from Amit Singh Dhillon Malhotra New South Delhi India in the Asian Region of The Great Wide World Of Ours.
Next:
1] Chris and Art wax Calvin
2] Twink buddies react to Skins and/or Euphoria and/or Boy Undone
3] Collab with the Old Ghays from grinder
4] Skateboarding and Skinny-dipping with the lads
5] Art reacts to MGOB
Love this. 62 and appreciate all your vids. You guys make me feel welcome and part of community. 👍💯🏳️🌈
I love Art's respect for the older generation of gay people. Yes, AIDS was terrible in the 1980s and 90s but even in the 1970s, gays were being beaten up by the police and hauled off to jail from the bars, even in San Francisco. I recommend watching the movie, "Milk" about the life and social activism of Harvey Milk during that time that began the changes that we enjoy today. But it cost Harvey Milk his life.
Chris, I have followed you and Art closely for the past two years and have dreamed of the day you two would collab. You both seem so real, respectful, and kind to others. These are the perfect attributes (along with good senses of humor) to have a positive affect on others, young and old. Keep up the great work.!
I'm friends with a guy who's 47, he's been out for ages, such a brave guy, he's my role model.
As a 66y old activist/leader it brings a tear to my eye to see how happy you are, it's the society we fought for and dreamed of for you...
@Chris... Speaking to your point @4:01 in the video... "gay men have more money to do stuff without kids." There's a term for that; it's called "disposable income" & I couldn't agree more!! In my short 44yrs of this thing we call Life, I've actually heard that point made (usually from my str8 friends) a gazillion times. Whilst I've been privileged w/having disposable income, unfortunately the sad truth is that there's a ton of gay guys that never have children but still suffer financially & in numerous other ways. Speaking broadly, the gay community has always been towards the bottom of the financially secure food chain due to subjugation & a hostile society in our history. My point: Enjoy & be proud of having disposable income in life, but hopefully give to or support your local gay community in helping those that are less fortunate. ✌🏻🙌🏻💙 Great video as usual 😉
Sooo Cool - After watching each one of you on your own for quite sometime and watching you grow as creators and as individuals and now seeing you work together - very cool - (I think I'm too old to "so sick" - Peace-Love energy aimed your way LADS! 😉
Hey guys! Thanks, Art, for your shout out to the older generation. As an "old geezer," myself, age 55, the AIDS pandemic and all the straight world hatred toward us for it was really terrifying. That plus conservative religion kept me closeted for many years, hetero-married, even. Fortunately it is never too late to come out, and I have been happily out the past decade.
One last point, though....all of us queers of all ages need to stay vigilent and stand united against oppression of all sorts. America is more progressive than eastern Europe on this issue, but it was not always so. There are countries more affirming than the US....such as Portugal, Canada, all of Scandinavia, even the UK. There are absolutely millions of staunchly Conservative Americans working hard to reverse the gains we have made. Our Trans friends are especially targeted, sometimes violently. We cannot afford to be complacent about it.
I never had these problems with straight guys but I agree 100% with Art on gay friends. It always seems they only looking for friends with benefits when it comes to friends.
A good collab! Surprised you two connected. Hope you had a happy ending too!
I’m so proud of you both. I think you give us all a boost with your charm and positive energy.
This is so realistic discussion I loved it, the new guy ( forgot his name) has a good mentality and he is articulate and chris slaaay as usual love u dude
Both of you guys had great thoughts and comments . You should both do more of them together .
This is great to watch. Both of you have great insights, and the collaboration takes it to a new level. Keep up the great work!
I hate that people think it is a choice. Its not a choice.
Exactly. LGBT people born that way ❤🧡💛💚💙💜
Exactly, some straight people will just never understand it, especially the older gen
Art, you are so right about the older generation! We can never forget that many people before had to suffer to gain the freedoms we all enjoy today. Obviously, we still have struggles, but we own the older generations our thanks for getting us to this point.
You two seem happy around each other and that's awesome you both are such a inspiration love your videos keep them coming
Worst thing about being from LGBTQ+ community is that I am born in a country where still society don't support you , rather they spread hate and it is very difficult to express about sexuality , even parents don't supports you and it is heart breaking.
Absolutely beautiful to see you both collab…………❤
I appreciate this guys..im 65...so i was in high school 1972.
Gay was totally wrong. I hated the locker room after gym. The guys were SO attractive.
But it was totally wrong. I was sent to a therapist because I Was having sex w a boy.
It's nice that u honor the old guys.
And I've had a big problem w gay community.
I'm a feeling person and everyone is having sex.
I would like to be attached to a partner.
Be monogamous
Thank you art
For mentioning that
I like listening to u all
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Being Gay is absolutely beautiful and cute ❤🧡💛💚💙💜 I'm so thankful with the life for being Gay ❤🧡💛💚💙💜 I would never want to be another thing (and definitely never being straight) I'm so happy with being Gay ❤🧡💛💚💙💜 Being Gay is wonderful ❤🧡💛💚💙💜 #ALWAYSGAYNEVERSTRAIGHT❤🧡💛💚💙💜
I agree with both of you. It’s difficult to have gay and straight friends. I have both. There are boundaries with both. Yes the gay friends, think we can hook up etc… just because we’re friends. Like both of you I’m in a long term monogamous relationship. And only want their friendship. Then most straight guys, you have to be more straight acting and you don’t feel you can be 100% your authentic self. Most people have no clue I’m gay and those I chose to tell have zero issues with it.
Sounds the same as myself and my partner, im 49 he is 39 we just act normally we have gay and straight friends too
@@Traveltheme706 must be the age gap thing. My other half is 10 years older than me. We’ve been together about 14 years. We’ve bought a house, travelled the world and really are enjoying life. I guess it’s true what they say, love is love. However you find it.
It could be the 10year age gap thing, we sound like you we have bought an apartment, have good jobs, have travelled a few times and are just enjoying life
Did you (young) guys ever see "Bevis and Butt-Head?" They would be watching this and going "Hey! He said 'hard!' Huhhhuh! Huh! Huh! Huhhhh!" (That was their laughing.)
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How did you and Art meet?? I love him, and been subscribed to his channel for years! 🙂❤️
i dmd him on insta!
@@StanChris Art is amazing. Glad you reached out to him.
StanChris I’m so glad you and Art are doing these videos together. When Art mentioned the older generation not being able to come out totally connected with me. When the AIDS pandemic started it made things even that much worse for everyone plus losing friends. I met my first boyfriend in a gay club and to this day we are still together and have never strayed. Lucky to meet my soulmate in my 20s. As far as coming out we never have we just let people figure it out and if they’re cool with it great if they’re not it’s their problem. Love you two🫶🏻✌🏻
I'm glad younger gays are realizing what us older gays went through. I'm 67 & it was a death sentence to be gay when I was younger. There's a lot of history that's going to be lost when us older gays pass on. What really happened at the Stonewall riots. AIDS pandemic & the loss of millions of ppl, friends, family, etc. & the govt refusing to help even though they created the HIV virus & deliberately infected us with it. I'm glad you're grateful for our hardships & sacrifices. Carry the torch onward, there's still lots to do.
Great video from two very likeable guys. You raised some great points very entertainingly. Thanks, guys
Awesome collab art & Chris. I was already subscribed to both channels. I don't know how to explain me, but i accept & love everyone. I work in retail and there has always been atleast 1 person identifying as gay. I love the fact that today they can be openly out with no fear of being bullied/judged. Art i am sorry it is not as accepted in your country, so i am glad you are here in the states...EVERYONE....just be you!
Gonna go watch your collab on Arts channel now...hope you collab again sometime...or with even different TH-camrs
Having to come out is one of my worst parts about being being gay, and one straight/cis people never have to worry about.
Out of curiosity, what are you attempting to achieve by "having to come out" to whomever?
@@AnonymousCommentor_ depends on who you are coming out to but, for example, parents/close friends and family : sharing your authentic self and your partner (if you have one); work colleagues: avoiding awkward conversations about family and sharing your authentic self; hotel staff: explaining you want a matrimonial bed and not twin beds. out of curiosity: did you really need me to explain this to you?
The biggest obstacles for coming out is with family and close friends It took me years to come out out of fear of family rejection mainly but luckily for me my mam was supportive alot of lgbtq people its not like that especially when it comes to religion and family
Its very difficult coming out although i think alot easier than it used to be, i think seeing guys like this on YT make it a whole lot easier too
Just love you guys! You guys are awesome! :) :) :)
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I still in the closet and I am 39 feel old and should of accepted my true self years ago I knew for a out 10 years I was not straight. I went to a club and felt sad and happy at the same time . Sad because every young person was having fun being themselves something I never had the balls to do . Happy because it's cool to see people living their best life .
I used to be the same as you, im 49 have been with my partner for 5 years now i dont act a certain way i just act me, it takes lot to come out and straight people would never understand what we go through, im over what others think
@@Traveltheme706 yep most people I feel will not care though I think we came a long way.
@@dewknow1315 Good luck coming out, im sure you will be fine
@@Traveltheme706 thanks I just plain to date a guy and just tell people then that this is my BF it sounds wired to say IMO
Great content. It makes me want to be introspective about my Bisexuality. I love the fluidity of Bisexuality, I happen to be equally attracted to men and women. I love the amazing people in the LGBTQIA? Community. Being bisexual I was married to two amazing women who unfortunately passed I was able to have that experience and have experience with guys too. I do hate the bierasure people saying bisexual males don't truly exist even though I know it's not true. I dislike the fact that even in the lgbtqia? Community there are people who say we are just closeted, it's just a phase, we're selfish. We cannot be monogamous. None of that is true. The third thing I didn't like was the self doubt. I don't have self doubt anymore. My experiences have validated that. I know it's not a phase I'm 56 years old not am adolescent. I love being able to compare experiences with my straight friends and my lgbtqia friends. Thank you for sharing and for asking us to share
Great video guys :). The one I related to most was about it being harder to find quality plutonic gay friends who value just being good friends
Both of you guys are great together a friends. Art, I noticed that your ear studs are a lot like mine. I got them for my big B-day coming up at the end of the month, a very special B-day, my 80th. also Art had it right. As an older guy, I made it thru the aids period but lost a lot of friends. I got married to a woman with three kids, and help raise them ( my best friends now). Keep up your good work on videos.
Great video guys i agree with most of your likes and dislikes love you both hope to see more of you two together keep up the great work my friends
I'm 35 years old, I'm half way out of the closet; I'm not keeping it a secret anymore, I told my best friends but I won't parade it around. I think it's funny to say certain stuff, so the other's like "what are you saying" and trey're too insecure to straight up ask "are you gay?" That for me is the best part, I can talk to straight guys and gay guys no problem because most of them are too afraid to ask 🤣🤣.
Worst part is I knew in the back of my head I was gay since I was, like, 10 yo. I just recently had confirmation when I first did stuff with a guy I met at work (the one who did have the balls to ask and was gay too 😊 first luck I've had ever.) I've stated my age, the math is easy. I have 1 brother who's almost 6 years younger and he came out in 2014. When my parents told me my brother came out, my mother acted like he contracted a terminal disease, and my father blamed himself, thinking he did something wrong. I don't want to put them through that again. They are totally accepting of my brother and his bf but still. So my worst part of being gay is: my little brother beat me to it
Also: this was, including the vid on Art's channel, a very interesting collab. I've watched vid's of you both and thought you guys were pretty similar. Seeing you together, you seem less similar, but very complimentary and I like that. Don't know if you plan on more collabs, but you should consider it. Vlog a trip together... I'd watch 😉
Good on you for coming half way out and good luck with the next half, no straight person will ever understand how difficult it actually is
I was not expecting such deep and profound conversation. Was expecpting more humour. For two young men you have such grasp of life. I thoroughly enjoyed it
Sorry I missed the premiere and live chat Chris. But Art asked me to stop by and say hi so here I am.😁😁
I love this so much 🥹 I’m 33 YO and came out this past June 2 weeks before my birthday. And I am so elated to finally be living my best life. Thank you Chris & Art for this vid. And looking forward to what’s to come for me. 🌈 and proud
Ya man’s #1 is an amazing answer. He has big brain energy for such a young man about life.
Good one, Boys! Let's do a LIVE next time!
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Chris, good session and a good way to show more of what is going on in your lives and the community. I am lucky because I have plenty of straight friends and gay friends all along. It might be self selection in that if I picked up or sensed someone wasn't comfortable with my being who I am I didn't need to go further. I think you will both find it easier to have friends across the board as time goes on. Agree with both, countries that are homophobic are not places to go to.. Although strangely enough some places I have traveled or worked which were homophobic on paper or in general have been some of the wildest I know, discretion was the key. Thanks to both f you, I like seeing you both working together.
Idk if it’s the service industry that changes things. But my straight friends and coworkers can easily horse around with me and slap each others asses and have a good time. We are all just good sports and have fun, we are open with each other, and just have a good time. Many actually act more comfortably around me after they find out I’m gay. They even come to me about advice on dating and man stuff that they aren’t always comfortable sharing with other straight men. Love my straight homies
Wow a collab i never thought id see
Awesome. You boys are my favorites. Arty is so nice.
love to see you two do more colabs. you have a great rapport with each other
Great convo...thanks for sharing.
Yes, I'm 72 and wish I lived my youth now so much easier.
Thanks for the recognition of our struggle, we helped change society and you thanked us , total respect to you both.x
Awesome video with great perspective!