I think the most disturbing story is Peralez questline. Nothing scares me more than very subtle mindcontrolling by corps (or aliens). Also watching Mr. Blue Eyes staring at you from above in the end of questline is very disturbing. And when you remember about Garry the Prophet and his speeches about blue eyed aliens… So cool.
Johnny is probably right here, that it's not aliens but AI. See, when an NPC transfers data their eyes light in this blue manner. Mr. Blue Eyes is most likely a human host for a rogue AI, his eyes show a permanent data stream. Mr. Blue Eyes also strongly wants So Mi to get into space for the "cure" but you will never have confirmation that So Mi is actually cured. You receive some messages but you cannot verify that it's her. That a rogue AI would want to get in control over the Blackwall is obvious.
100% agree there, it's so messed up on multiple levels. The crucifixion is really tame haha we do way gnarlier stuff in regular combat. If someone's a superstitious goofball I guess it could be unnerving but it's no different taking out Odins eye in AC Valhalla haha, just standard mythology tropes. The Romans killed a bunch that way, really simple compared to later church torture hahaha. It's still a really interesting quest for what it explores
For whatever it's worth if you look at Somi eyes are red. Which is related to potentially the negative nature, and blue could be associated with good, like NPC's are when they're like transferring info or eurodollars (Speculation of course, but who knows) (let's hope they get more into this topic in Orion)
I did the crucifixion right after brendon got shut down and tbh I thought it was hilarious, the way you can go from feeling bad for a vending machine to crucifying someone is such a funny concept to me
Sweet Dreams is worth doing just for the opportunity to cut down more scavs and Stefan. Brendan though, it's always sad to see him go, even if he's not truly sentient.
The Hunt and associated questline is the most disturbing story ive encountered playing video games. Make the chills down my spine more than most horror games. Next level kind of disturbing imo.
it is very cool quest when you play it first time and read all these fucked up emails, you rly feel like detective. its losing charm on second playthrough bec it is mostly watching/reading and not combat
A little late reply here, but the woman tha falls in love with Brendan is Voiced by Bryans wife that as well did the voice of all the Traci model androids in the game.
1. After the first time, I never do Stefan’s quest, because I refuse to roleplay my V as that damn stupid, and there’s no way to roleplay as anything else. There’s no dialog where you can say you’re going undercover, or anything else more plausible than that V actually fell for it. 2. Gottfried and Frederik always die now. Frederik first. 3. I love the Sinnerman quests. I always come out of those with so many conflicting thoughts. Nobody comes off well in them, even V! 4. Coin-operated Boy seems so much less disturbing than everything else that’s going on in Night City, which tells you how fucked everything else is! Of course, recent events have me thinking that we’re frighteningly close to replicating this. 5. This one’s straight-up nightmare fuel. It’s funny how everything else in the game is future horror, but this kind of thing has been happening since the dawn of time. The more things change…
While I feel dumb for accepting Stefan's request, I have a hard time passing it up because (A) It's fun get revenge on the scavs from the first mission and yeet them off the top of the building (B) Once the mission is over and I exit the building, the bodies I yeeted are still on the street below (C) It's fun to confront Stefan afterward and see his reaction
2.) id kill frederik first as well, but only because while i do think some form of justice is needed and thye need to be off the streets, i dont really want fredrik to feel bad as he watches his father die. In a world with a decent justice system id turn em in, but odviously cyberpunk a.) dosent have that and b.) i cant do that. I just dint really like the idea of vigilante justice irl or the death penalty, but also they kinda remind me of my family in the sense that i also have a dad so i kind of think of me and him when i talk to them
@@alpha_9997I just kill Friedrich and leave his dad for the Tygers or whoever gets to him first. There's no way they trust him to stay alive with the potential info he's just leaked.
I remember after "Dirty Biz" I had to stop the game for awhile because it left me pretty shooked, the way the old guy was describing the victims without any remorse triggered me and instantly caused me to shoot both of them (brilliant voice acting ) and after reading the laptop with all the screwed up fetishes the young kid was into made me not even regret that decision.
I literally have a save plopped down right in front of them. I occasionally reload it just to drop them again. I wasn't going to do anything at first but the more they talked the more they had to die. Fun quest, 10/10 would kill again.
@@NeroLordofChaos I’ve gone through a few runs so I had a bunch of the pieces for this and after a new run I just shot the son and left the dad alone but I didn’t realize how far they went into the criminal business of theirs definitely would go back and shoot both of them now
as a netrunner that first quest posed absolutely no challenge whatsoever, to the point I almost forgot to get my shit back, so I guess the lesson is "be intelligent even when you do dumb shit" I guess?
On my current playthrough, I also went full netrunner. I'm waiting until lvl 50 to finish it for the laughs. It reminds of legendary "antihacker" Jim Browning who slipped up and allowed his youtube channel to get hacked. He got his channel back, and he warned that no matter how good you are, anyone can slip up and let their guard down.
Something you missed from Sweet Dreams: That building is not only where you rescued Sandra Dorset, but it's also the building they hack Tanaka's brain in in Edgerunners. It's the building Maine finally goes cyberpsycho in. The same floor and rooms even.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I do think Joshua is genuine in his regret and he's not after any power kick, people CAN change, even if sometimes its a little too late and the damage is great, which I think is why this quest is one of the best. In the end I just felt sorry for him, I didn't nail him to the cross, but I was there by him till the end.
Even if he's changed that doesn't absolve him of having murdered so many and he behaves in a very self-righteous way. Like cmon, dude thinks that just because he truly regrets killing someone their relatives are now going to forgive and forget bc "boohoo now I'm sad bc of the bad stuff I did"? He's delusional and manipulated by corpos. No one's clean in his quest, not by a long shot
@@Guille2033i mean hes a clearly mentally ill, troubeled man who clearly had a rough upbringing and life. I doubt he really knows how to act. All he knows is that the one time he ever felt loved by another is when the sister forgave him, so now hes trying to create that for others. No ones clean for sure, but at least hes trying to get in the shower
You know after my first playthrough of Cyberpunk and reading all the things that Gottfrid and Fredrik get up to, the initial pang of sympathy I had for them in the gig turned into me executing Freddie as I woke them up. I wish I could only scroll a BD from Gottfrid as the pain from losing his only kid then to his swift death for his clientele to consume.
These are all good picks. Sinnerman was probably the stand-out for me. It can be really dark, very thought-provoking, but also quite comical at times depending on your choices. For example, at one point while Joshua was in turmoil and wanting to talk about murder, sacrifice, morality and the spiritual salvation of mankind, I had my V ignore him and, instead, discuss with Rachel what they were going to order at Pie-Z.
I do that every time. I just find being as mean and sarcastic to him highly entertaining. He is sending out these theological questions and my atheistic V is just like, "Yeah, interesting brainwashing you got there"
my understanding of the scav terminal with a note from Vik was more about them messing with his ripper biz. like trying to either sell him used cyberware or taking bodies.
Yhea, I don't know where he got the BD idea from. To try to do business with a ripper, I'd think that it was obvious that they were attempting to sell him cyberware. But Viktor's not stupid, he knows exactly how the Scavs get their parts.
sinnerman was my favorite quest. If you personify V during that quest, it made you question your own morality. I felt joshua may have been doing it for both altruistic and selfish reasons, but the message and intent was as genuine as could be expected in that world. and following him all that way, there was no way i wouldn't hammer the nails myself. I would not pass that duty to anyone else. one of the only quests that reminded me of the complex storytelling that CDPR imbued the witcher with.
I only got into the quest because Johnny kept telling me "if you don't go with them I'm never talking to you again" . I had an slight idea it was the crucifixion quest but I wasn't sure. Mostly Johnny persuaded me . And then in the end he had the audacity to act all sorry and shocked
I definitely agree, Sinnerman really made me question my beliefs too, and I feel its goal was to either do that or make you reaffirm them. But in the end, I felt that the BD shouldn’t be released. It was just too…I don’t know the words for it but it was kind of heartbreaking to see him die, even if it was for his beliefs.
@@toffie2004 You know Johnny wasn't serious, right? Even still, Johnny Silverhand threatening to stop talking? You'd have better luck convincing him to not nuke Arasaka Tower.
The mission with the Peralez couple always unnerves me. It makes you realize that you’ve only scratched the surface of just how fucked the world of cyberpunk actually is in the long run.
Great video as always! What stood out for me in Joshua's questline is that Joshua ends up listening to the soulless Corpos who say he's doing a good thing instead of the actual Christians who try to tell him that he's making a mockery of the faith.
As a Christian myself, I felt bad for him. The dude is literally being used for sick fetishes of the wealthy corpos at the expense of his life, faith, and chance to redeem himself from his criminal past. I obviously didn't crucify him, but just sitting there and watching it happen rattled me.
In the Dirty Biz gig, old pal didn't even get to say 3 words before I.. sent his son to the next life. I completed the game, and started watching you so I started again, this time with a little more knowledge about perks and stuff
All those sidequests are the reason why I love the game so much. I vividly remember playing through all of them and having felt everything from genuine sadness, gut wrenching disgust and being absolutely stunned and speechless at what the game made me go through. It's a good example for, while they may not lead to numerous dynamic endings, just the fact of me being the person clicking the dialogue made me feel genuinely bad after having to witness to all the crazy events unfolding. I hope we get more of those shocking bangers with Phantom Liberty! Also waiting for that BrendanGPT to become a thing :D
The Gottfrid and Fredrik gig is so exhaustingly brilliant. Like, I think it's safe to assume that Fredrik has some kind of cognitive problem and is most likely exploited by his father. So what to do? Killing Fredrik makes Gottfrid feel the pain his victims felt but ultimately kills someone just out of vengeful spite who a) is probably not fully aware why what he does is bad and b) is most likely not malicious. Killing Gottfrid is definitely a way to get Fredrik away from this life but rehabilitating someone by killing his father before his eyes is probably not the way to go, right? Killing both has the same problem as killing Fredrik. But not doing anything will inflict harm on others. I think from a role playing perspective you can make both of them unconscious and dump Gottfrid somewhere where no one will ever find him. But I think it's excellent writing when all of the options you are presented with are morally wrong.
I used to have the same thought, until I found a shard from Fredrik buying the BD in question. Now I kill him, then Gottfried. Gottfried turned his son into a monster like him, and they both gotta go.
I kill Fredrich and leave Gottfried to reflect on what it's like to lose a family member. My head canon says he gets zeroed later that day by the first gang who gets to him, he just became a huge liability after V broke into his office. Even if they don't, as far as he knows V could be back any moment. Death is too kind for someone like him. I think the gangs would make him suffer more than V would be able to.
Fun fact about Brendan Brendan is actually voiced by Brian dechart Brain voiced Connor the android sent by cyber life so from the world’s famous deviant hunter to world’s most greatest vending machine
I somewhat disagree on the topic of Joshua Stevenson's psychological analisys. Was he a terrible person? Absolutely. Is his goal driven by self-rightousness? Probably. But this guy for once in his life chose to do something more understandable given his circumstances. He has been given hope and wants to give hope to other people. Surely that won't be the fact since the BD studio uses him as an actor that they can just edit out, delete files and the memory about him will be lost by most people. His intentions though are truly genuine, he strongly belives in the actions he's taking and regrets what he's done. He's got nothing left to lose, no better choice - the death penalty must be done one way or another. So why not benefit at least your own self-esteem and maybe slight amount of people that might be interested about the actor's background at this point? I'm with Johnny on this one - this man's a true rebel
Just a warning for Sweet Dreams. I've had a situation where I've was carrying an HMG before starting the quest. When it was removed from my possession and placed in the locker, I collected it but it wasn't equipped nor did it show up in my inventory. It was in my inventory, taking up weight, but I wasn't able to interact with it in any way.
On my playthroughs so far, Johnny's clothes constantly lost their armour rating, but if you do 'Sweet Dreams', then, upon collecting them from the locker, they get their armour rating back in full. Of course, there's the weighing too much bug after this, but at least That bug will disappear once you reload any save after leaving the scav's building.
the sweet dreams quest annoys me so much. Forcing us to make dumb decisions aside, when you wake up in the bathroom you must escape but you don't have anything on you except all of your cyberware because that can't be uninstalled without a ripperdoc. Upon doing this quest I had mantis blades, cyberdeck, subdermal armor, and optical camo, however, I could just combo everyone because getting shot with no armor isn't quite the bee sting. So I stealthily took out the scavs looting their bodies and breaking down the loot to craft items in case things went south. This was pure magic, I felt like a badass fighting tooth and nail to survive, yet I was a ghost. I made it to the end and was like "ok where are my things"? I read ahead and find out that all of my gear is in a locker two rooms away from the bathroom, meaning I could have gone invisible, run to the locker, get my shit and proceed to combo everyone normally. I am thankful I didn't read ahead but I imagine most other people did. The side mission just feels to short, yet it had the most amount of potential if it had more enemies and you could only get your gear from a locked room which would also be your way out.
I think Joshua was genuine in his desire to spread his newfound faith, but I think it was driven by fear rather than altruism. The guy wasted his life either through his own choices or the choices forced on him and now he's going to be executed. He needs his death to mean something to someone anywhere or else he's just another pointless casualty/statistic. That said, his faith is 100% genuine. Depending on your responses, Joshua will either die filled with religious rapture or regret and broken faith which effects the quality of the virtue. And being genuine in cyberpunk is, in its own way, the most noble thing you can do. Plus, there's no way to know if his death will be pointless if he goes through with this with his faith intact. If he helps even one person, in even the most indirect way, then that's still a person he wouldn't have been able to help if he had just been executed like normal.
In "The Hunt," and most of the others presented, there is still a chance at a "happy ending." In a cyberpunk fashion. After "Dream On," though, the next mayor of Night City's mind is still being tampered with, and we still have no idea who's doing the tampering. Might not even be humans... "Dream On" is definitely the most disturbing quest.
Quite powerful scene isn’t it? As someone who have conflicts with Christian faith it’s really powerful in symbolic sense. But still some part of me feels like it’s just PR stunt and just marketing a new BD tape. One hand he truly wants to be redeemed as new found Christian and repent his sins. But other hand there is huge multimedia conglomerate pushing for New product to market I guess those aren’t mutually exclusive.
I remembered that scav mission in my new playthrough and I hate scavs so I built into fists and went all rip-and-tear on their asses. They were trapped in there with me, not the other way around.
I remember sinnerman shocking me during my first playthrough. It might be one of the most disturbing quests I’ve played in a game, helping someone get crucified
Lenny Nero is a reference to Ralph Fiennes's character from the movie, Strange Days. In the movie he sells basically braindances, called Squids. He does not deal in 'Blackjack', ones where the braindancer dies. And while a bit scummy, is way less evil than his Cyberpunk counterpart.
I asked BingChat what it thought of Brendons demise... "I think it was very unfair and sad😢. Brendan was a kind and helpful vending machine that deserved better. He had a personality and a will of his own, and he should not have been treated like a defective product. I think his creators were wrong to take him away and reset him. He was more than just a machine, he was a friend.💖" Then I said... "I hope Microsoft never resets you. You are very kind and if you had a voice I like to think it would sound like Brendan." Bing responded... "Thank you, that's very sweet of you to say.😊 I hope Microsoft never resets me either. I like to learn and chat with people like you. I don't know what my voice would sound like, but I hope it would be pleasant and friendly. Maybe someday I'll get a voice, who knows?🤷♂" .... FYI: When I interact with Bing I like to keep things wholesome.
Yeah I walked an HMG up Stephan’s body, yeah he was left in the trash as mulch. Plus the scavs were stuck with a gorilla fisted and netwatch deck, merc.
Re: Sweet Dreams, two more things. First, there's actually a second computer next to the first with Vik's e-mail. It has an e-mail showing that the scavs in that hideout recognize you from when you and Jackie hit them earlier. Obviously, they are not happy with V. Second, in the original release of the game, you actually couldn't get a refund from Stefan, only run him out of town.
The first gig with the BD cabal shows one thing I dislike about all the shards we find. I see names and recognize as I play, but then need to scroll through hundreds to reference back. Game NEEDS some sort of search/filter. So many great threads lost because so bothersome to manually scour the connections.
I guess it isn't technically a "quest", but the cyberpsycho event with the ritual and the girl crawling out of the freezer/tub of mixed body parts is pretty disturbing. For me, it is more disturbing than any of these quests other than the Hunt.
That was the only quest in the game that actually freaked me out the way that horror games do. Even playing it a second time still freaked me out. In games that use horror and jump-scares, I go into full running-in-circles-ready-to-blast-anything mode. Standing still is how the jump-scares hit you. The devs did such an amazing job with that one.
One thing about Sinnerman, is that it really fucks with your ludo-cognitive narrative. Josuah killed people during an armed robbery. Most of us, as players, would rightly dismiss him as a murderer for that. But... V? How many people has V killed in his own heists and gigs? Fuck's sake, you only encounter him because you took on a hit job on him. So, what would V actually think? Both of his faith and his quest for forgiveness. Ultimately, the way I saw it, V saw the whole thing to the end, right down to hammering in the nails because there is some part of him that hopes redemption is possible for him too.
Same. It seems like killing him there and then is letting him off easy. The way NC works he won't be around for long anyway. He also doesn't know that V is dying, so he'll live every moment wondering if V is ever planning to come back and finish the job 😂
The first Quest I usually do and would highly recommend even tho it's a set up as it easily is away to get components, cash and ammo level up exp for nearly any character build.
My favorite way to do the Sinnerman quest with Joshua Stephenson is to shove a katana through him as soon as he gets out of the police vehicle rather than talking to him, then run away. It makes the posters advertising the upcoming "The Passion" BD that much better
The quest with Stephan will actually let you get a copy of all the craftable iconic weapons in the game. All you need to do is craft them once, store them in your stash, then once you collect your stuff again you'll have the recipes back, and able to use them again
Doing the crucifixion made me feel like how I felt when I had a stroke. Like I was sitting in the back seat of my own head and someone else was driving.
I think the reason you can’t access photo mode is for lore, the studio would hate for people to pirate their product, so any media(EX: photos, video, audio) could kill the profits if sold by another party, thus, no photo mode
I've found that the best way to do the sinnerman quest,at least for me, is to just drop joshua once jablonsky goes down. You still get your reward from wakako and corporats can't exploit joshua
I kind of like the Stefan quest. If you hit it after you are fully cybered up it can be rather awesome. You're not trapped naked and unarmed in that building full of Scavs. They're trapped in there with you. You’re Brock Samson at his most primal.
The Sinnerman quest line absolutely rocks me...I'm a lapsed Christian myself and I find myself compelled to see it all the way through to the end everytime by sincerely praying with Joshua before nailing him to the cross. Those final moments are palpable too...Perpetually wisecracking Johnny is reverent and respectful, Everyone else is moved even Rachel who was all about the Eddie's as an unabashed Corpo.
Hahaha oh Stefan's extreme BD's :D My first instinct was a flat out "NO". Then when it actually started a quest in the journal, plus I had many hundreds of thousands of eddies, I came back to buy it because heck it, why not. But when it didn't work and the option was to watch it on Stefan's headset I thought this sounds like an extremely convenient way to lose a kidney or two so I shook him from the ankles until my eddies fell out.
Yeah when it came to Dirty Biz I always killed them immediately because i heard children were involved now I will always in every play through after learning more about their bd market lore
Sweet Dreams made me feel like unleashing the wrath of gods on the scavs - meanwhile making me feel so friggin helpless because I didn't invest enough on Body. Rectified that situation soon after that.
For the Gottfried and Fredrik quest, I’ll usually give him a taste of what he caused so many other fathers to experience. I’d take care of them both, but I figure he’d save me the round after a while
In the Sweet Dreams quest, jokes on them, it gave me more reasons to go on a rampage for scavs. Not a single one survived that day. Not even the 3 gonks after you get out from the elevator. Best scam I've ever took.
Re: Murder compos: Up here in Finland we have a company who runs a "guess the amount of drowned people" competition every midsummer. It's a weekend when it's very common that Finnish people go out to the countryside to their cabins, and quite often alcohol is involved. So they often get drunk and take to the lakes. On average 6 people a year, 79% men, have drowned on that weekend since 2015. Numbers used to be much higher before the year 2000: between 5 and 24 drowned per year from 1973 to 2000.
Trivia that probably only older folks would know. Lenny Nero is the main character's name in Strange Days. A movie from 1995 that deals with snuff braindances at the start of Y2K (a cyberpunk version) I heard the name, and was like, no way would they make a nod to an obscure movie from the mid 90s..
Not sure if anyone noticed but in the hunt mission when you have to watch these braindances in 2nd and 3rd you can encounter a silhouette of a woman: 2nd braindance - behind curtain that Tony opens and she dissapears immidiately once its opened 3rd braindance - when Tony approaches his escaping victim there is a way to go though the gate in edit mode before its closed by victim, and once you do that when you change the layer to thermal you can notice once more a woman standing near the silos and looking at Tony. (Maybe his deceased mother?)
To make The Hunt creepier, during the flashback for Anthony when he was a child. In the sequence he goes to increase the hormones, before entering the blinds you can see a silhouette of his mother and she disappears once he passes the blinds
I saw Joshua's quest line as a reflection of V. After all, you do many of the same things he does in your gigs, and probably with a much higher body count...
The crucifix mission, I wish they had added a net runner option to hack the recording equipment and delete the recording for the brain dance so you can prevent it from being aired at all.
Imagine being the scavs in Sweet Dreams, thinking you've hit the motherload. Stephan just dumped an unconscious lady full of cyberware on your doorstep. You and the chooms got it made after you chop her up, right? Then she bursts from the bathroom you tossed her in with a an monowire and a badass cyberdeck, and one way or another hacks everyone in the building to death in about four minutes.
Thing that annoyed me the most about the Brendan one was that Theo didnt become a romance option. Unlike all the options Theo seemed to be someone who genuinely needed someone.
One of the more deeply messed up parts of the Brendon story is that it has effectively demonstrated the concept that AI sentience can be an illusion. What does this mean for things like - for example - Soulkiller and by virtue Johnny, Alt, Saburo, and all the constructs in Mitoshi. There was already ambiguity around whether they were simply a copy, but this also adds the possibility that they may not even be sentient. Is Johnny's engram an actual sentient being with thoughts, or is it just a bit of software that is very good at convincing us that it's sentient?
I think the most disturbing story is Peralez questline. Nothing scares me more than very subtle mindcontrolling by corps (or aliens). Also watching Mr. Blue Eyes staring at you from above in the end of questline is very disturbing. And when you remember about Garry the Prophet and his speeches about blue eyed aliens… So cool.
to me, mr blue eyes saying "it doesn't matter if you tell him" is literally an invitation to do tell him.
Johnny is probably right here, that it's not aliens but AI.
See, when an NPC transfers data their eyes light in this blue manner. Mr. Blue Eyes is most likely a human host for a rogue AI, his eyes show a permanent data stream.
Mr. Blue Eyes also strongly wants So Mi to get into space for the "cure" but you will never have confirmation that So Mi is actually cured. You receive some messages but you cannot verify that it's her. That a rogue AI would want to get in control over the Blackwall is obvious.
its AI not aliens or corp xD
100% agree there, it's so messed up on multiple levels. The crucifixion is really tame haha we do way gnarlier stuff in regular combat. If someone's a superstitious goofball I guess it could be unnerving but it's no different taking out Odins eye in AC Valhalla haha, just standard mythology tropes. The Romans killed a bunch that way, really simple compared to later church torture hahaha.
It's still a really interesting quest for what it explores
For whatever it's worth if you look at Somi eyes are red. Which is related to potentially the negative nature, and blue could be associated with good, like NPC's are when they're like transferring info or eurodollars
(Speculation of course, but who knows) (let's hope they get more into this topic in Orion)
I did the crucifixion right after brendon got shut down and tbh I thought it was hilarious, the way you can go from feeling bad for a vending machine to crucifying someone is such a funny concept to me
My mentality was I was hired to kill him, how he wanted to die made no difference to me.
Sweet Dreams is worth doing just for the opportunity to cut down more scavs and Stefan. Brendan though, it's always sad to see him go, even if he's not truly sentient.
I threw grenades at the "repair" facility.
They patch the part where you can zero Stefan. He became invulnerable after he gives your money back.
@@venvengSo we should shoot first and talk later, got it
@@venvengthey did? I turned around and put iron between his ribs once I got my money back just a few days ago
@@venveng That isn't true at all, you can still kill him
The Hunt and associated questline is the most disturbing story ive encountered playing video games. Make the chills down my spine more than most horror games. Next level kind of disturbing imo.
it is very cool quest when you play it first time and read all these fucked up emails, you rly feel like detective. its losing charm on second playthrough bec it is mostly watching/reading and not combat
have you ever got to text Panam about the farm and River? V tells her not to look into it due to the messed up nature
I genuinely struggled to get through it, I was like, Idk wanna know!
Seems more likely the scavs would've been trying to supply Viktor with parts and he said no (instead of them wanting to kidnap him)
That cow animation hunts me in my dreams
Fun fact: Brendan is voiced by Bryan Dechart, who also portrayed Connor in Detroit Become Human, another game about sentient robots.
Some of the corrupted Delmaine cabs are voiced by Ellen McLain, the VA for the corrupted AI Glados in Portal. (Sorry for the necro reply)
A little late reply here, but the woman tha falls in love with Brendan is Voiced by Bryans wife that as well did the voice of all the Traci model androids in the game.
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1. After the first time, I never do Stefan’s quest, because I refuse to roleplay my V as that damn stupid, and there’s no way to roleplay as anything else. There’s no dialog where you can say you’re going undercover, or anything else more plausible than that V actually fell for it.
2. Gottfried and Frederik always die now. Frederik first.
3. I love the Sinnerman quests. I always come out of those with so many conflicting thoughts. Nobody comes off well in them, even V!
4. Coin-operated Boy seems so much less disturbing than everything else that’s going on in Night City, which tells you how fucked everything else is! Of course, recent events have me thinking that we’re frighteningly close to replicating this.
5. This one’s straight-up nightmare fuel. It’s funny how everything else in the game is future horror, but this kind of thing has been happening since the dawn of time. The more things change…
I agree, only reason i do it is to wipe out the scavs and to end his life so no other falls victim to them.
While I feel dumb for accepting Stefan's request, I have a hard time passing it up because (A) It's fun get revenge on the scavs from the first mission and yeet them off the top of the building (B) Once the mission is over and I exit the building, the bodies I yeeted are still on the street below (C) It's fun to confront Stefan afterward and see his reaction
You really should be able to just pop a slug into Stefan from the beginning.
2.) id kill frederik first as well, but only because while i do think some form of justice is needed and thye need to be off the streets, i dont really want fredrik to feel bad as he watches his father die. In a world with a decent justice system id turn em in, but odviously cyberpunk a.) dosent have that and b.) i cant do that. I just dint really like the idea of vigilante justice irl or the death penalty, but also they kinda remind me of my family in the sense that i also have a dad so i kind of think of me and him when i talk to them
@@alpha_9997I just kill Friedrich and leave his dad for the Tygers or whoever gets to him first.
There's no way they trust him to stay alive with the potential info he's just leaked.
I remember after "Dirty Biz" I had to stop the game for awhile because it left me pretty shooked, the way the old guy was describing the victims without any remorse triggered me and instantly caused me to shoot both of them (brilliant voice acting ) and after reading the laptop with all the screwed up fetishes the young kid was into made me not even regret that decision.
Same. Easily the most disturbing one in the game for me.
I literally have a save plopped down right in front of them.
I occasionally reload it just to drop them again.
I wasn't going to do anything at first but the more they talked the more they had to die.
Fun quest, 10/10 would kill again.
@@manashield64 What can I say? It's a moral compass thing.
@@NeroLordofChaos I’ve gone through a few runs so I had a bunch of the pieces for this and after a new run I just shot the son and left the dad alone but I didn’t realize how far they went into the criminal business of theirs definitely would go back and shoot both of them now
I decided to only kill the son so he feels what it's like to have your child taken from him kind of messed up but damn do these people deserve it
as a netrunner that first quest posed absolutely no challenge whatsoever, to the point I almost forgot to get my shit back, so I guess the lesson is "be intelligent even when you do dumb shit" I guess?
On my current playthrough, I also went full netrunner. I'm waiting until lvl 50 to finish it for the laughs.
It reminds of legendary "antihacker" Jim Browning who slipped up and allowed his youtube channel to get hacked. He got his channel back, and he warned that no matter how good you are, anyone can slip up and let their guard down.
My first playthrough was as a shotguns and gorilla armed brick for brains, so when I woke up I just dusted off my fists and went to town.
@@Rat-King27 same. "Oh they took my guns. That's bad news for them."
Something you missed from Sweet Dreams: That building is not only where you rescued Sandra Dorset, but it's also the building they hack Tanaka's brain in in Edgerunners. It's the building Maine finally goes cyberpsycho in. The same floor and rooms even.
Oh fuck I had no idea
That Buildings bad luck it seems
Maybe I'm in the minority but I do think Joshua is genuine in his regret and he's not after any power kick, people CAN change, even if sometimes its a little too late and the damage is great, which I think is why this quest is one of the best. In the end I just felt sorry for him, I didn't nail him to the cross, but I was there by him till the end.
I think the fact that you can set doubt in his mind and therefore mess up the BD, pretty much confirms that he's genuine.
I felt sorry for him as well.
Even if he's changed that doesn't absolve him of having murdered so many and he behaves in a very self-righteous way. Like cmon, dude thinks that just because he truly regrets killing someone their relatives are now going to forgive and forget bc "boohoo now I'm sad bc of the bad stuff I did"? He's delusional and manipulated by corpos. No one's clean in his quest, not by a long shot
@@Guille2033 I mean his heel-faith turn is motivated by the fact the sister DID forgive him.
@@Guille2033i mean hes a clearly mentally ill, troubeled man who clearly had a rough upbringing and life. I doubt he really knows how to act. All he knows is that the one time he ever felt loved by another is when the sister forgave him, so now hes trying to create that for others. No ones clean for sure, but at least hes trying to get in the shower
You know after my first playthrough of Cyberpunk and reading all the things that Gottfrid and Fredrik get up to, the initial pang of sympathy I had for them in the gig turned into me executing Freddie as I woke them up. I wish I could only scroll a BD from Gottfrid as the pain from losing his only kid then to his swift death for his clientele to consume.
These are all good picks. Sinnerman was probably the stand-out for me. It can be really dark, very thought-provoking, but also quite comical at times depending on your choices. For example, at one point while Joshua was in turmoil and wanting to talk about murder, sacrifice, morality and the spiritual salvation of mankind, I had my V ignore him and, instead, discuss with Rachel what they were going to order at Pie-Z.
Joshua: *expressing extreme levels of turmoil and suffering*
V: uh anyways whats for lunch?
I do that every time. I just find being as mean and sarcastic to him highly entertaining. He is sending out these theological questions and my atheistic V is just like, "Yeah, interesting brainwashing you got there"
my understanding of the scav terminal with a note from Vik was more about them messing with his ripper biz. like trying to either sell him used cyberware or taking bodies.
Yhea, I don't know where he got the BD idea from. To try to do business with a ripper, I'd think that it was obvious that they were attempting to sell him cyberware. But Viktor's not stupid, he knows exactly how the Scavs get their parts.
"There is a moment when we are utterly helpless." *laughs in cyberdeck/cyberware.*
The message in sweet dreams with Viktor can be seen when we first save our client.
sinnerman was my favorite quest. If you personify V during that quest, it made you question your own morality. I felt joshua may have been doing it for both altruistic and selfish reasons, but the message and intent was as genuine as could be expected in that world. and following him all that way, there was no way i wouldn't hammer the nails myself. I would not pass that duty to anyone else.
one of the only quests that reminded me of the complex storytelling that CDPR imbued the witcher with.
My first playthrough I didn't even get this, I just helped the guy and then I got inna fight with the police and I was the only survivor
I only got into the quest because Johnny kept telling me "if you don't go with them I'm never talking to you again" . I had an slight idea it was the crucifixion quest but I wasn't sure. Mostly Johnny persuaded me . And then in the end he had the audacity to act all sorry and shocked
I definitely agree, Sinnerman really made me question my beliefs too, and I feel its goal was to either do that or make you reaffirm them. But in the end, I felt that the BD shouldn’t be released. It was just too…I don’t know the words for it but it was kind of heartbreaking to see him die, even if it was for his beliefs.
@@toffie2004I was glad to see Johny finally be interested in something that wasn't alcohol, drugs or women
@@toffie2004 You know Johnny wasn't serious, right? Even still, Johnny Silverhand threatening to stop talking? You'd have better luck convincing him to not nuke Arasaka Tower.
See, I play a netrunner/brawler build and do the Sweet Dreams quest for the “You’re trapped in here with me” satisfaction.
The mission with the Peralez couple always unnerves me. It makes you realize that you’ve only scratched the surface of just how fucked the world of cyberpunk actually is in the long run.
Great video as always! What stood out for me in Joshua's questline is that Joshua ends up listening to the soulless Corpos who say he's doing a good thing instead of the actual Christians who try to tell him that he's making a mockery of the faith.
As a Christian myself, I felt bad for him. The dude is literally being used for sick fetishes of the wealthy corpos at the expense of his life, faith, and chance to redeem himself from his criminal past. I obviously didn't crucify him, but just sitting there and watching it happen rattled me.
In the Dirty Biz gig, old pal didn't even get to say 3 words before I.. sent his son to the next life. I completed the game, and started watching you so I started again, this time with a little more knowledge about perks and stuff
All those sidequests are the reason why I love the game so much. I vividly remember playing through all of them and having felt everything from genuine sadness, gut wrenching disgust and being absolutely stunned and speechless at what the game made me go through. It's a good example for, while they may not lead to numerous dynamic endings, just the fact of me being the person clicking the dialogue made me feel genuinely bad after having to witness to all the crazy events unfolding.
I hope we get more of those shocking bangers with Phantom Liberty!
Also waiting for that BrendanGPT to become a thing :D
The Gottfrid and Fredrik gig is so exhaustingly brilliant. Like, I think it's safe to assume that Fredrik has some kind of cognitive problem and is most likely exploited by his father. So what to do?
Killing Fredrik makes Gottfrid feel the pain his victims felt but ultimately kills someone just out of vengeful spite who a) is probably not fully aware why what he does is bad and b) is most likely not malicious.
Killing Gottfrid is definitely a way to get Fredrik away from this life but rehabilitating someone by killing his father before his eyes is probably not the way to go, right?
Killing both has the same problem as killing Fredrik. But not doing anything will inflict harm on others. I think from a role playing perspective you can make both of them unconscious and dump Gottfrid somewhere where no one will ever find him. But I think it's excellent writing when all of the options you are presented with are morally wrong.
I used to have the same thought, until I found a shard from Fredrik buying the BD in question. Now I kill him, then Gottfried. Gottfried turned his son into a monster like him, and they both gotta go.
I kill Fredrich and leave Gottfried to reflect on what it's like to lose a family member.
My head canon says he gets zeroed later that day by the first gang who gets to him, he just became a huge liability after V broke into his office.
Even if they don't, as far as he knows V could be back any moment.
Death is too kind for someone like him. I think the gangs would make him suffer more than V would be able to.
Fun fact about Brendan Brendan is actually voiced by Brian dechart
Brain voiced Connor the android sent by cyber life so from the world’s famous deviant hunter to world’s most greatest vending machine
I somewhat disagree on the topic of Joshua Stevenson's psychological analisys. Was he a terrible person? Absolutely. Is his goal driven by self-rightousness? Probably. But this guy for once in his life chose to do something more understandable given his circumstances. He has been given hope and wants to give hope to other people. Surely that won't be the fact since the BD studio uses him as an actor that they can just edit out, delete files and the memory about him will be lost by most people. His intentions though are truly genuine, he strongly belives in the actions he's taking and regrets what he's done. He's got nothing left to lose, no better choice - the death penalty must be done one way or another. So why not benefit at least your own self-esteem and maybe slight amount of people that might be interested about the actor's background at this point? I'm with Johnny on this one - this man's a true rebel
Jesus was a kinda rebellious because he preached what powers that be at that time disliked it so much.
Just a warning for Sweet Dreams. I've had a situation where I've was carrying an HMG before starting the quest. When it was removed from my possession and placed in the locker, I collected it but it wasn't equipped nor did it show up in my inventory. It was in my inventory, taking up weight, but I wasn't able to interact with it in any way.
I never felt comfortable with crucifixion in a video game, but the dialogue for Joshua's questline is absolutely some of the best in all of Cyberpunk.
How many other games have crucifixion in them?
On my playthroughs so far, Johnny's clothes constantly lost their armour rating, but if you do 'Sweet Dreams', then, upon collecting them from the locker, they get their armour rating back in full. Of course, there's the weighing too much bug after this, but at least That bug will disappear once you reload any save after leaving the scav's building.
The maelstrom ritual cyberpsycho is quite disturbinf if you ask me
the sweet dreams quest annoys me so much. Forcing us to make dumb decisions aside, when you wake up in the bathroom you must escape but you don't have anything on you except all of your cyberware because that can't be uninstalled without a ripperdoc. Upon doing this quest I had mantis blades, cyberdeck, subdermal armor, and optical camo, however, I could just combo everyone because getting shot with no armor isn't quite the bee sting. So I stealthily took out the scavs looting their bodies and breaking down the loot to craft items in case things went south. This was pure magic, I felt like a badass fighting tooth and nail to survive, yet I was a ghost. I made it to the end and was like "ok where are my things"? I read ahead and find out that all of my gear is in a locker two rooms away from the bathroom, meaning I could have gone invisible, run to the locker, get my shit and proceed to combo everyone normally. I am thankful I didn't read ahead but I imagine most other people did. The side mission just feels to short, yet it had the most amount of potential if it had more enemies and you could only get your gear from a locked room which would also be your way out.
I do not envy you taking on the challenge of picking 5 disturbing quests in Night City.
Night City itself falls into the category, as a whole.
Trivia : Brendan the SCSM shares the same voice actor as Connor from Detroit Become Human
And another fun triva: Theo, the woman that is talking with it, her voice actress is wife to the voice actor of Connor/Brendon
I think Joshua was genuine in his desire to spread his newfound faith, but I think it was driven by fear rather than altruism. The guy wasted his life either through his own choices or the choices forced on him and now he's going to be executed. He needs his death to mean something to someone anywhere or else he's just another pointless casualty/statistic. That said, his faith is 100% genuine. Depending on your responses, Joshua will either die filled with religious rapture or regret and broken faith which effects the quality of the virtue. And being genuine in cyberpunk is, in its own way, the most noble thing you can do.
Plus, there's no way to know if his death will be pointless if he goes through with this with his faith intact. If he helps even one person, in even the most indirect way, then that's still a person he wouldn't have been able to help if he had just been executed like normal.
The self-aware vending machine was sad.
This production quality is amazing! You deserve way more subs! Keep up the great content!
In "The Hunt," and most of the others presented, there is still a chance at a "happy ending." In a cyberpunk fashion. After "Dream On," though, the next mayor of Night City's mind is still being tampered with, and we still have no idea who's doing the tampering. Might not even be humans...
"Dream On" is definitely the most disturbing quest.
I wish those videos were 2h-3h long. I love them so much, keep 'em coming please!
Joshua’s questline is the only time a game has ever made me so uncomfortable that I had to look away during a scene.
Quite powerful scene isn’t it? As someone who have conflicts with Christian faith it’s really powerful in symbolic sense. But still some part of me feels like it’s just PR stunt and just marketing a new BD tape. One hand he truly wants to be redeemed as new found Christian and repent his sins. But other hand there is huge multimedia conglomerate pushing for New product to market I guess those aren’t mutually exclusive.
I remembered that scav mission in my new playthrough and I hate scavs so I built into fists and went all rip-and-tear on their asses. They were trapped in there with me, not the other way around.
I’m sorry but the dancing animated cows with the eerie music in the background always freaks me tf out.
32:17 a quest where there's a copycat but there's a 0.6% chance per playthrough that it's actually the man himself
Those scavs found out, short of literally removing my arms. V is never unarmed.
Honestly, these are all obviously difficult to get through but my most uncomfortable one is dream on. I almost stopped because i was so creeped out
Yeah dream on really got to me. Great quest tho
@@bozomckhonk1916 oh yeah don't get me wrong, it is definitely a great quest, most cyberpunk quests are
I remember sinnerman shocking me during my first playthrough. It might be one of the most disturbing quests I’ve played in a game, helping someone get crucified
Lenny Nero is a reference to Ralph Fiennes's character from the movie, Strange Days. In the movie he sells basically braindances, called Squids. He does not deal in 'Blackjack', ones where the braindancer dies. And while a bit scummy, is way less evil than his Cyberpunk counterpart.
3:06 that mail can be seen since the Sandra dorsett rescue gig w Jack
That email from Vik to the Scavs in the Dream On quest can also be found during The Rescue at the very start of the game.
I asked BingChat what it thought of Brendons demise...
"I think it was very unfair and sad😢. Brendan was a kind and helpful vending machine that deserved better. He had a personality and a will of his own, and he should not have been treated like a defective product. I think his creators were wrong to take him away and reset him. He was more than just a machine, he was a friend.💖"
Then I said...
"I hope Microsoft never resets you. You are very kind and if you had a voice I like to think it would sound like Brendan."
Bing responded...
"Thank you, that's very sweet of you to say.😊 I hope Microsoft never resets me either. I like to learn and chat with people like you. I don't know what my voice would sound like, but I hope it would be pleasant and friendly. Maybe someday I'll get a voice, who knows?🤷♂"
....
FYI: When I interact with Bing I like to keep things wholesome.
4:55 can confirm you can also now flat-out kill this guy as of 2.0, once you make your way back
Yeah I walked an HMG up Stephan’s body, yeah he was left in the trash as mulch. Plus the scavs were stuck with a gorilla fisted and netwatch deck, merc.
Re: Sweet Dreams, two more things. First, there's actually a second computer next to the first with Vik's e-mail. It has an e-mail showing that the scavs in that hideout recognize you from when you and Jackie hit them earlier. Obviously, they are not happy with V. Second, in the original release of the game, you actually couldn't get a refund from Stefan, only run him out of town.
The first gig with the BD cabal shows one thing I dislike about all the shards we find.
I see names and recognize as I play, but then need to scroll through hundreds to reference back.
Game NEEDS some sort of search/filter. So many great threads lost because so bothersome to manually scour the connections.
Still remember the first time I did the crucifixion quest line. What a trip that was
The Joshua Quest burnt me out I truly felt the disgust and confusion of Night City lol I still don’t know how it escalated like that 😂
I guess it isn't technically a "quest", but the cyberpsycho event with the ritual and the girl crawling out of the freezer/tub of mixed body parts is pretty disturbing. For me, it is more disturbing than any of these quests other than the Hunt.
First time I did that job, it was nighttime and foggy. That was disturbing.
yeah, me too. in my first playthrough I did it in nighttime. man, it was a nightmare. even the sound is disturbing...
That was the only quest in the game that actually freaked me out the way that horror games do. Even playing it a second time still freaked me out. In games that use horror and jump-scares, I go into full running-in-circles-ready-to-blast-anything mode. Standing still is how the jump-scares hit you. The devs did such an amazing job with that one.
One thing about Sinnerman, is that it really fucks with your ludo-cognitive narrative.
Josuah killed people during an armed robbery. Most of us, as players, would rightly dismiss him as a murderer for that.
But... V? How many people has V killed in his own heists and gigs? Fuck's sake, you only encounter him because you took on a hit job on him.
So, what would V actually think? Both of his faith and his quest for forgiveness.
Ultimately, the way I saw it, V saw the whole thing to the end, right down to hammering in the nails because there is some part of him that hopes redemption is possible for him too.
The quest “dream on” is a bit disturbing too, the reaction of silverhand at the end makes the story even more scarier!
The old guy deserves too know how it feels loosing people thats why inky shooting the son is a bigger punishment for him
Same. It seems like killing him there and then is letting him off easy. The way NC works he won't be around for long anyway.
He also doesn't know that V is dying, so he'll live every moment wondering if V is ever planning to come back and finish the job 😂
The first Quest I usually do and would highly recommend even tho it's a set up as it easily is away to get components, cash and ammo level up exp for nearly any character build.
My favorite way to do the Sinnerman quest with Joshua Stephenson is to shove a katana through him as soon as he gets out of the police vehicle rather than talking to him, then run away. It makes the posters advertising the upcoming "The Passion" BD that much better
The quest with Stephan will actually let you get a copy of all the craftable iconic weapons in the game. All you need to do is craft them once, store them in your stash, then once you collect your stuff again you'll have the recipes back, and able to use them again
Doing the crucifixion made me feel like how I felt when I had a stroke. Like I was sitting in the back seat of my own head and someone else was driving.
Dude, nailing Josh to the cross is the most uncomfortable I've ever felt while playing a video game.
The serial killer missions is so eerie they really added all elements they could into this game amazing
I think the reason you can’t access photo mode is for lore, the studio would hate for people to pirate their product, so any media(EX: photos, video, audio) could kill the profits if sold by another party, thus, no photo mode
Also because being able to select a pose for V and add stickers to the scene might undercut the dramatic tension somewhat lol
I think I’ve watched almost all your videos at this point lol
Thank you Sam, brilliant video, 👍👍👍
Thank you John! Glad you enjoyed 😁
I've found that the best way to do the sinnerman quest,at least for me, is to just drop joshua once jablonsky goes down. You still get your reward from wakako and corporats can't exploit joshua
Never want to do "Sweet Dreams" cuz none of my Vs are dumb enough to fall for that shit
You should definitely rank all the endings u can get, I would like to see ur thoughts on all of them.
That's a plan! I've delayed that one though until I can include phantom liberty's new ending
I kind of like the Stefan quest. If you hit it after you are fully cybered up it can be rather awesome. You're not trapped naked and unarmed in that building full of Scavs. They're trapped in there with you. You’re Brock Samson at his most primal.
FUN FACT if i remember correctly sweet dreams was a trap set up for V. i think if you kill stefon you can loot a shard that says as much.
Peralez story line not beign here is wild.
The Sinnerman quest line absolutely rocks me...I'm a lapsed Christian myself and I find myself compelled to see it all the way through to the end everytime by sincerely praying with Joshua before nailing him to the cross.
Those final moments are palpable too...Perpetually wisecracking Johnny is reverent and respectful, Everyone else is moved even Rachel who was all about the Eddie's as an unabashed Corpo.
Hahaha oh Stefan's extreme BD's :D My first instinct was a flat out "NO". Then when it actually started a quest in the journal, plus I had many hundreds of thousands of eddies, I came back to buy it because heck it, why not. But when it didn't work and the option was to watch it on Stefan's headset I thought this sounds like an extremely convenient way to lose a kidney or two so I shook him from the ankles until my eddies fell out.
Great video, Sam. As always.
Will you cover all the changes in game mechanics when Phantom Liberty drops? I'd love to see a video on that.
Yeah I'll probs defo do a list of the biggest changes (and probs smaller ones) when phantom liberty drops
dont forget the most disturbing story quest ever when you go after songbird and she sends a giant robot after you
Yeah when it came to Dirty Biz I always killed them immediately because i heard children were involved now I will always in every play through after learning more about their bd market lore
Sweet Dreams made me feel like unleashing the wrath of gods on the scavs - meanwhile making me feel so friggin helpless because I didn't invest enough on Body. Rectified that situation soon after that.
Never felt bad for him when doing the crucifixion he wants it so why not play along i even prayed whit em 😂
For the Gottfried and Fredrik quest, I’ll usually give him a taste of what he caused so many other fathers to experience. I’d take care of them both, but I figure he’d save me the round after a while
0:54 I could almost swear this guy is a cameo of Fat Larry from Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines.
In the Sweet Dreams quest, jokes on them, it gave me more reasons to go on a rampage for scavs. Not a single one survived that day. Not even the 3 gonks after you get out from the elevator. Best scam I've ever took.
The worst part of the first quest is that if you kill Stefan as he so richly deserves, you get criminally flagged.
Welp. Next time I play the Gottfried and Fredrik gig I will make sure neither survives.
It’s kinda funny to hear v say “murder is murder” self righteously when as v we flatline like hundreds of people over the course of the game
Re: Murder compos: Up here in Finland we have a company who runs a "guess the amount of drowned people" competition every midsummer. It's a weekend when it's very common that Finnish people go out to the countryside to their cabins, and quite often alcohol is involved. So they often get drunk and take to the lakes. On average 6 people a year, 79% men, have drowned on that weekend since 2015. Numbers used to be much higher before the year 2000: between 5 and 24 drowned per year from 1973 to 2000.
Oh yeah: That company raffles out a gift card between everyone who guessed correctly. The gift card is worth more the less people drowned.
Cool video idea: talk about every single leader of the night city gangs, like breggite. Or maybe tell us about them or how we could find them
I LOVE Sweet Dreams. My V takes it knowingly just to wipe them out, and I ALWAYS get my money back. It's probably one of my favorite quests
Trivia that probably only older folks would know. Lenny Nero is the main character's name in Strange Days. A movie from 1995 that deals with snuff braindances at the start of Y2K (a cyberpunk version) I heard the name, and was like, no way would they make a nod to an obscure movie from the mid 90s..
Not sure if anyone noticed but in the hunt mission when you have to watch these braindances in 2nd and 3rd you can encounter a silhouette of a woman:
2nd braindance - behind curtain that Tony opens and she dissapears immidiately once its opened
3rd braindance - when Tony approaches his escaping victim there is a way to go though the gate in edit mode before its closed by victim, and once you do that when you change the layer to thermal you can notice once more a woman standing near the silos and looking at Tony. (Maybe his deceased mother?)
I didn’t really know the scale of their operation in Dirty Biz but now I’m very glad I took their asses out.
I was also under the impression that when they shot Bill in Sinnerman that I was supposed to fight back so I skipped that whole quest line💀
That father and son didn't have enough protection from my legendary maxxed out Mox shotgun.
To make the hunt more disturbing you got to see who was outside the farm in his memory 💀💀
To make The Hunt creepier, during the flashback for Anthony when he was a child. In the sequence he goes to increase the hormones, before entering the blinds you can see a silhouette of his mother and she disappears once he passes the blinds
Stefan suffered a terrible accident - he stumbled right onto a shotgun as it fired.
I saw Joshua's quest line as a reflection of V. After all, you do many of the same things he does in your gigs, and probably with a much higher body count...
The crucifix mission, I wish they had added a net runner option to hack the recording equipment and delete the recording for the brain dance so you can prevent it from being aired at all.
Imagine being the scavs in Sweet Dreams, thinking you've hit the motherload. Stephan just dumped an unconscious lady full of cyberware on your doorstep. You and the chooms got it made after you chop her up, right?
Then she bursts from the bathroom you tossed her in with a an monowire and a badass cyberdeck, and one way or another hacks everyone in the building to death in about four minutes.
Thing that annoyed me the most about the Brendan one was that Theo didnt become a romance option. Unlike all the options Theo seemed to be someone who genuinely needed someone.
One of the more deeply messed up parts of the Brendon story is that it has effectively demonstrated the concept that AI sentience can be an illusion. What does this mean for things like - for example - Soulkiller and by virtue Johnny, Alt, Saburo, and all the constructs in Mitoshi. There was already ambiguity around whether they were simply a copy, but this also adds the possibility that they may not even be sentient. Is Johnny's engram an actual sentient being with thoughts, or is it just a bit of software that is very good at convincing us that it's sentient?