One of the most realistic cases of hacking I ever saw in a movie: - a program written by someone that knew the system - that still had to be delivered into a physically well protected location (that control room) - and carried a single line of pure, SQL doom. That could be quickly changed on the fly with a text editor/input prompt.
@@christopherg2347 Yeah.. I seriously place doubt that these pompous rich bastards even had an incident response plan in place, as every respectable organization is supposed to. They likely thought that simply being in LEO kept the peasants out. As a cybersecurity student who is graduating soon, this was a refreshing take on hacking for sure. :)
@@oninoni NPCs are making sure that populations will increase along with maximum suffering via breeding like unconscious animals. There is no worse crime than bringing a child into this existence full of evil. When you give birth to a child you are basically allowing them to be potentially harmed by all of the immoral monsters that inhabit this prison plane of existence. By giving birth you are putting your child at risk for being a victim of a rapist, murderer, abuser, etc. The breediots who force these potential risks upon their children without their consent are clearly immoral bastards who have no legitimate consideration for the well-being of their children. Religious nutcases’ ‘logic’: "Everyone is born a sinner " "Sin is what causes us to suffer" "Let's be fruitful & multiply to create countless suffering sinners" Humans are born with sin. Sin is bad. Is it a good thing to create more sin through breeding like animals? Gawd: Hates sin more than anything bc it's against his nature (but he still kinda created it oops) Also Gawd: makes a rescue plan that doesn't even get rid of sin and expects all of humanity to kiss his ass for it (or burn in all eternity) Yeah no thank you. Life is a gift bag full of poop and maggot vomit!
"There's so many stories where a brave hero gives their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everyone lives happily ever after. But the hero never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?" -Church/Epsilon, Red vs Blue Season 13
@@timfrank7461 I recall reading a few where the story was similar to that, though i can't rightly recall any names due to my failing memory, Sorry bout that. what I do remember, vividly, was that they where not stories you'd find in the main stream, not something your casual reader would ever want to read. They fit more as Psychological deep dives into how people work, how they acted and how they eventually broke, and you could only really find them on the various obscure reading sites out there that aren't big enough to worry about being censured. I tend to dive very deep to find stories from certain obscure genre's. Some of them are frankly horrifying, and the death of the main character brings about immense relief because of the pain they suffered was finally ending, or in others it make you sad for days or weeks on end at the injustice of their end, when all they had wanted to do was save the world. A shame we don't see more of them, Genuinely well written stories with believable characters. I can only stomach so much of the copy and paste power trip fantasies out there nowadays where everything is all unnatural joy, the author lives out their baser fantasies by implanting themselves into the book, and the characters feel like 1 dimensional mascots, instead of people, for the author to play god with.
By the numbers, I don't see how operating 24 hours a day 365 days a year they could keep up with demand. They would have to dedicate industry to build up aid to support. Also, in this power vacuum war and mayhem would likely cause more destruction and death. People need purpose. Having robots solve your problems does not make you a better human.
@@JordenLeonard This is the initial wave of pre-existing med bed equipped shuttles being triaged to the most severe locations. What we don't see are the off screen factories being spun up to build more med beds at a very high priority. Nor do we see all the other changes an automated economy suddenly reoriented towards the health and well being of its newly expanded citizenry would be. As for purpose, dying from overwork in order to make some rich guy's economic metrics go 'up' isn't exactly the most fulfilling for humanity. We can hope to do better than the dull cancerous hellscape the economic elite happily delivered to humanity in this sci-fi scenario.
@@jasonp.1195 I think the dull cancerous hellscape would be better than the anarchy wars that follows a human society with idle hands because they don't have to support themselves anymore.
The director, Neill Blomkamp, got the idea for the movie when we and his friend were caught, extorted and dropped off outside of the town by Mexican police, and they walked back to their hotel through dark, dangerous and terribly poor part of Mexican town but their horizon was an illuminated, walled US border. He imagined living in these slums, looking at the border and dreaming to get there one day.
Ngl shit probably looked absolutely crazy like everything pitch black and the only light is this big ass wall with a American flag over it like the sea wall from blade runner 2049
Difference is, unlike Elysium, anyone can come to the US. All you have to do is get a green card, which is not some impossible task. Once you have that, you can get naturalized to become a full US citizen. Also unlike Elysium, the US is happy to have you immigrate and become a citizen, so long as you're actually willing to work and contribute meaningfully to society and aren't just coming to free load off the work of others.
It's also symbolic MAX dying this way. Elysium was thought to be a state of eternal happiness by the Greeks. Was there way of interpreting heaven. In Max's death he both literally and spirituality entered Elysium.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 Please tell me your comment is not in reference to the movie. If so, then... my god... I've never seen a more brain dead take in my life...
It's a fun and happy ending, but I can't help but think that the robots of that one little station would very quickly be completely overwhelmed by everyone on earth, and pretty soon there wouldn't be enough for anyone.
I love how they said this movie was about the evil of the 1%. In truth, the 99.999% of humanity turned the world into an overpopulated cesspool. The people on the station could not maintain total control over them, so the quality of life on earth was largely the product of those living there. The few who built the station chose to separate from humanity, and even if they wanted to share their technology, it would have to be rationed to the most dire of cases because there is no way to provide for everyone.
Not quite true, each of just the three shuttles had at least two dozen beds that could heal the worse of a humans ailments in under a minute, all without using anything but power. The benefit to humanity of the dispatched shuttles is at least a million peoples worst medical conditions treated each week for no economic costs. That's a billion people treated of terminal disease in 20 years with only 72 beds. It's the **speed** of the medical procedure and the fact that it's literal re-atomization, which means the device clearly wouldn't be capable of wearing out, since re-arranging organic atoms in an entire body at once is well above self repairing technology levels. These people are holding back star trek levels of fabricate anything (including more fabricators) from raw feedstock and forcing billions to work for a pittance. This release of technology would have saved everyone.
That's not the full point of the end. It's about the 1% no longer being able to hoard their technology and now its access is for more people to do good with. Its a message about privatised health care and why it's a horrible in humane thing for the wider population. Elysium serves as a stand in for america, capitalist driven and focuses on hoarding wealth and power for the few while the many suffer under them. Instead of building many apartments on the space station to fit millions of people, they build nice gardens and pools for only a few thousand
@@woolfoma - All technology requires maintenance and resources. Inevitably, those machines would not be able to provide care for all who seek it. Cornucopia technology doesn’t exist…not even in Star Trek. You could help a lot of people, but not everyone.
@@sorcerous8401 - That what people think, but I see a massive earthbound population that was in a downward spiral by their own choices. The people on the station controlled much, but they didn’t control the masses. Lawlessness was the rule for most of the planet. That’s not the elite 1% doing that…it’s the 99% choosing that. If you examine many 3rd world nations, while dictators and warlords might hold power, they couldn’t withstand the populace if it revolted. The population chooses to live in oppression rather than risk death to overthrow their oppressors. We saw this In Afghanistan…so few willing to fight for a free country, and when we left, it fell to the Taliban immediately. Those wanting to blame others for their problems always want to point to some oppressive boogie man, but the reality is that we make our own choices, and society becomes what we are willing to tolerate.
What does this movie have anything to do with it? US healthcare you have many options. No hospital can legally turn someone away. It's one main reason why ERs are often filled with people abusing it for everything. USA also has more charities donations then anywhere on this planet. You guys really need to stop hating on stuff because you are told. I lived in the "free" healthcare world and its awful. You have to buy private or go on a death waiting list because the "free" is managed like everything else government does (horribly). Cant really blame them.. anything that is given money for free with no regards to quality, services or the product itself will always be awful. Movie was more about Kings and peasants then anything.. could even say communism if we really wanted to push some political crap like yourself. This movie had elites locked away in rich mansions and the very poor lived on earth. The very poor could never be anything other then very poor (just like communism). No promotions, no middle class, no growth. You are just forever in poverty and then you die... unless your "leaders" let you up.
@@bobshanery5152 you clearly don't understand what a joke is. I will be generous and allocate (give) some of my time to explain it to you in layman terms so you can sleep at night. First I will explain the financial aspect of why the US should have a better healthcare system, then explain the statistical (numbers) of how that is not the case, and finally summarize as a whole why my joke was humorous. To start the US has the world largest economy in terms of GDP (Gross Domestic Product, basically a measure of how much money it makes from selling goods each year) at just under 21 trillion US dollars. Now when we look at the number of billionaires in the world we see a similar scenario. The US has the worlds most billionaires at 724. This is a summary of the financial aspect as promised in my introduction. Now we will explore how the US compares to countries in a measure of its healthcare rankings. According to the 2023 rankings for national healthcare systems the US is at 18th on the list. Now given the financial power of the US it only seems logical that it should be ranked one of the best, if not the best healthcare system in the world. The US also has the highest average medical costs at just over $12,000 per year for each person, while Denmark (the highest ranked healthcare system) pays roughly half that per person. Finally, when someone on the internet (aka myself) makes a joke about a man dying while there is technology to cure him in a matter of minutes, simply because he cannot afford, it's funny because it reflects the current US healthcare system. He is not allowed access to treatment that can save him simply because he is not able to afford it. Money is placed as the priority over the health of all the individuals. Finally, this is a fictional (not real) movie, so by me comparing it to a modern day US healthcare system is part of the joke. Also you don't understand how communism works. At its very roots communism was designed to get rid of kings and peasants. It was meant to place everyone on equal ground financially and materially. If you were a successful merchant you didn't make more money than the struggling farmer. Money as a whole would be collected and redistributed to individuals in a mostly even manner. I hope you found this to be helpful, and now can understand why I made the satirical (sarcastic) joke and why it should be humorous (funny). If you want to learn more about your so called kings and peasants a great book to read is "The People of the Abyss" by Jack London. That shows a very accurate depiction of kings and peasants in the industrial revolution in London.
The acting is fine, grunts push looks good, other guy absorbing the blow looks good. The camera angle catching that and the editors not noticing and reshooting that plus it making it all the way to release is where the issue is. But there is a decent chance they saw it and didnt think it was worth reshooting. Regardless, nothing wrong with either actors work.
They toppled the hierarchy so now the automated system is turned into a democracy not authoritarian. It's now run by the people so everyone now has a say in what happens on Elysium.
Usually if you fuck up the production database, there would be a backup you can just load back in. Assuming the bots do not defend that control room against any such attempts.
I can totally see how the Martian is a prequel to Elysium being set like 115 years earlier. And Max great great grand father is the famous first astronaut to be stranded on Mars.
So, now the whole, already massively overpopulated world has access to what is nothing less than immortality tech (Kruger and Carlyle were over 100 years old). Good job, Max, I hope there is at least some technology to grow food in large quantities on Elysium.
they have the technology to heal any bodily lesion and cure any incurable disease (both in a matter of seconds!) I wouldn't doubt they have the tech to grow essentially infinite amounts of food. they could even use this healing tech to eviscerate a whole ass cow before restoring it completely and then repeating the whole process, perhaps indefinitely.
Capitalist crying that common workers are now healthy and now can go back to work without any problem. The droids factories are now being repurposed to make robots for cleaning up waste, agricultural, education etc and not to serve the whim of the few. Boo hoo..cry me river
@@rickkcir2 You think they make new skin and bone from sunbeams and hope? The mass has to come from something and last I checked most mass on a space station is accounted for as a matter of literal survival. So....
@@sid2112 Actually, they prolly do make the skin and bone from sunbeams and hope. It’s literally said that those machines “reatomized” the body back to normal. In other words, they pretty much fix your body at an atomic level. And if this thing is capable of reorganizing atoms, then that means it can be powered by anything like a piece of wood. It’ll destroy the piece of wood at an atomic level and use it for materials to rebuild the body.
The amount of effort it takes for the poor to get free healthcare. This is supposed to be a fictional film but it is becoming more relevant as healthcare prices keep increasing over the years, to the point only the rich are able to afford it.
For this Matt Damon adult character, 'Little Max' has to be one of the most spot-on childhood lookalikes I've seen depicted in a movie ever! You can truly see the pain of a kid growing up in poverty and hardship-it's like they captured Max's essence, struggles and all, and just shrank him down.
The Child really looks like him. I am certain this child looks more like a child Version of Matt Damon than teenager Matt Damon ever looked like in reality.
Those commentors that are complaining about _everyone_ getting healthcare and assistance seem to not realise that in the Universe of Elysium, _they_ would be one of the 99.999% impoverished on Earth, not one of the elite 0.001% on Elysium. Are you currently a Billionaire?
District 9, Chappie, Elysium are all such amazing movies containing social commentary themes in the fabric but concentrating on story and character as the main focus to make them both entertaining and thought provoking, add in the superb CGI and cinematography and if people had more intelligence they would recognise them as genius.
A lot of comments here remind me of when people say "There isn't enough food to go around!" Then Monsanto said they annually make food for 10 Billion. Always people looking for a reason not to try and help.
One thing I didn't understand about the overall situation is that they don't show Elysium extracting large amounts of resources from the Earth to sustain itself; suggesting that the space station is self sustaining in some way other than perhaps some luxury finishes like the Italian marble they referenced in the middle of the movie. Also, with robots handling security, it shows that robotics could have handled ALL labor jobs and they were technologically capable of cleansing the planet of pollution and garbage. I understand not wanting to be "taken for a ride" by people who will never improve their own circumstances, but there comes a point in having such a callous attitude and no faith in your fellow man that the results of such a way of thinking begin to compound and you just spread misery. They could've fixed Earth's problems if they wanted to, but their ability to assert their will and authority over the poor was more important to them.
The fact that literally all they had to do to override this entire trillion dollar system was change "illegal" to "legal" like they were trying to boot up an MSDOS game is hilarious lmfao
@@ambushbob5383Well as someone whose fucked with the android operating system, I had to root my device and then any changes to the main files of the OS would require a reboot of my phone to kick in?
It's pretty realistic. A core boot kernel is not that complex. If you look at the boot kernel for Windows, it's relatively similar in code. The kernel boot sequence would not be that complex.
@@ambushbob5383 Because the Elysium system ran on a Microsoft OS which requires a reboot for everything you do. Had it been run on Linux, a reboot would not have been required. Obviously a Microsoft OS.
This reminds me of a STVoyager episode wherein the Doctor finds himself on an alien hospital ship full of dying people that could be saved but the elite choose not to.
It's insane that there is a segment of people that saw this movie and instead of getting the jaw-droppingly obvious message of, "the rich will kill us all just to maintain their sense of comfort and hierarchy", they said "those beds are real and Tom Hanks is conspiring to keep them from me."
of course, they neglect to mention how the entire system likely fell apart soon thereafter due to stretching limited resources too thin, and the crime bosses in charge of the underworld likely started charging exorbant rates for access to the medbays as differnet factions fought for control of the robot army.
@@kabeltelevizioThis ending feels a bit hollow knowing that the system is going to be overwhelmed and non-functional without the robots basically turning humanity into hamsters in luxurious cages. Makes you wonder the implications of robots basically taking over all functions from Humanity in the name of free healthcare...Sounds like a robot empire too me. With humans as a pet project.
Just my 2 cents, but when the robots entered the control room they told the human "officers" to stand down. When one didn't and even pointed his gun at the robots, the robots then subdued him. If the robots do not recognize Elysium officers authority to override Elysium law (and even not recognizing the President of Elysium ordering the override), then I doubt the robots would allow thugs on Earth to impede the duties of the robots. The EMS robots are being sent to help people of Earth. They'll know that not all humans in need will be able to reach them on their own (i.e the disabled or incapacitated). The EMS robots will find the humans in need. If the Earth thugs intervene, I'm sure security robots will ensure otherwise. Of course, we weren't shown the detailed workings and protocols of the robots, so perhaps the thugs could simply order the robots to stop helping the sick or something like that, but its unclear how much the robots protocols and duties supersede the orders of humans or now "Elysium Citizens."
Yesterday I went in for a regular eye exam. I always get my eyes dilated to look for signs of retinal detachment. Welp, my unlucky number came up and the optometrist rushed me out the door to go to see a specialist the same afternoon for emergency eye laser surgery. Thank goodness I 1) have good insurance 2) live in Houston, TX with the Medical Center just down the road 3) the specialist could squeeze me in for my medical emergency 4) I make a good living so I could afford the expensive out-of-pocket expenses. I would have paid anything to save my eyesight. It was excruciating and a wild day, but the doctors were able to discover a serious issue to save my eyesight!!! And I know I'm damn lucky that if I were more poor in the U.S.A. or in a country without a developed Healthcare system... I would have to resign myself to eventually going blind in one of my eyes. 😢 Fuck the American health care system.
Such a short sighted movie premise, there's no chance they have the resources to help everyone planet side. Once they get medical help, then the food shortages will get worse.
Anyone who reads this, as someone who suffers from a heart arrhythmia, from articles I've read about medbay, how close or well theorized are we from being able to realistically have something to cure any and or all ailments?
This pictures how most rich people wanna do this they wanna leave the weak, hungry, and sick in the dirt meanwhile some people wanna help each other and make it fair for us all but knowing how this world is nothing is fair
unlike other movie where some wacky hacking CIA in 10s in his mom basement, they do try to make hacking in this movie look legit like a program written by someone that knew the system and physically delivered it to server in server room, i give that at least. although, i must say future where they create magical bed can cure anything but still use SQL in they own super computer is just weird
And 5 minutes later, they changed it all back and rebooted. A new war raged on between Elysium and those they have subjugated. Millions on earth will die, yet one woman, who was cured then imprisoned in Elysium as a child, fights on as the head of the Resistance. Being raised and taught there, she is taken in by a military academy and as she rises up through the ranks, she comes to the to the realization that she is fighting for evil. She knows all of their weaknesses, including how to destroy it!
Then she falls in love, makes children of her own, and due to the rebels destroying a lot of medical equipment in the fighting, caused her own children to die from the lack of medical care. She realise that resources are finite, changed her mind, and went back to Elysium.
Not if part of the program that was in Max's brain was designed to essentially take Elysium's population numbers and add them to the new list before scrubbing the old data completely.
President of Elysium: Who the hell do you think you are? Max: I'm nobody, but now everyone you thumbed your nose at is now a citizen of Elysium. Only this time we stop staring at hell, and finally bring heaven to our doorstep.
It never ceases to amaze me that in moments of crisis in movies, when there's no time to waste, that they always have time for something that isn't critical. In the books that I write, the hero doesn't bother to tell the girl he loves her. He just acts, and she understands that there's no time for mush.
One issue I might have with this movie is how unlikely it is that not a single citizen of Elysium had smuggled out those healing machines to Earth. Citizens can't get arrested, right? It would only take a handful of citizens to feel bad for the people on Earth to pull this off. Even in Hunger Games, the elite class had a ton of sympathizers against the government.
The Elites are super super rich like billionaires to be able to live on Elysium. Citizen’s can’t be arrested if they don’t commit crimes, if they try to help people on earth they will be shun be their own. I see a lot of people voicing their support for the civilian deaths in Gaza today, but I still don’t see anyone stick their neck out to help them.
No they didn't. It's a message about making high quality health care available for everyone instead of just letting the 1% control it all. It's a message against private health care in America and how its a big negative for society as a whole. Almost every other 1st world nation has free health care and they can pull it off just fine, it's only America that hoards it all and let's the poor die
@@alexanderzippel8809 Not publicly. Various stories up and about how there are SSP going on, in the background and that they have the tech to revive a head. I mean, 9/11 was more than a demo job. It was a destruction of records. Records of $3 trillion expenditures. What happened to the money? Black Box projects. The tech's there, were just not allowed to touch it, unless you go through a lot of hoops
@@alexanderzippel8809year old comment, but you can. Its light-based. Like a highly-focalized laser going right through you, restructuring the cells into healthy cells. Hence, heavily suppressed
One of the most realistic cases of hacking I ever saw in a movie:
- a program written by someone that knew the system
- that still had to be delivered into a physically well protected location (that control room)
- and carried a single line of pure, SQL doom. That could be quickly changed on the fly with a text editor/input prompt.
Let's just hope they don't have a backup...
@@oninoni You should have a backup for your production database.
But I seriously doubt they had one.
@@christopherg2347 Yeah.. I seriously place doubt that these pompous rich bastards even had an incident response plan in place, as every respectable organization is supposed to. They likely thought that simply being in LEO kept the peasants out. As a cybersecurity student who is graduating soon, this was a refreshing take on hacking for sure. :)
@@Atnedin a more realistic setting futuristic ai should be in charge of the system and not easily hackable with just an SQL injection 😂
@@oninoni NPCs are making sure that populations will increase along with maximum suffering via breeding like unconscious animals.
There is no worse crime than bringing a child into this existence full of evil. When you give birth to a child you are basically allowing them to be potentially harmed by all of the immoral monsters that inhabit this prison plane of existence. By giving birth you are putting your child at risk for being a victim of a rapist, murderer, abuser, etc. The breediots who force these potential risks upon their children without their consent are clearly immoral bastards who have no legitimate consideration for the well-being of their children.
Religious nutcases’ ‘logic’:
"Everyone is born a sinner "
"Sin is what causes us to suffer"
"Let's be fruitful & multiply to create countless suffering sinners"
Humans are born with sin. Sin is bad. Is it a good thing to create more sin through breeding like animals?
Gawd: Hates sin more than anything bc it's against his nature (but he still kinda created it oops)
Also Gawd: makes a rescue plan that doesn't even get rid of sin and expects all of humanity to kiss his ass for it (or burn in all eternity)
Yeah no thank you. Life is a gift bag full of poop and maggot vomit!
"You know the bravest part of a hero's sacrifice? It's the fact they will never know if it worked. They won't be around to know if it was enough. "
"There's so many stories where a brave hero gives their life to save the day. And because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everyone lives happily ever after. But the hero never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith. Ain't that a bitch?" -Church/Epsilon, Red vs Blue Season 13
I've always wanted to write that exact story where the story actually ends WITH the heros sacrafice
"Ain't that a bitch?"
@@timfrank7461 I recall reading a few where the story was similar to that, though i can't rightly recall any names due to my failing memory, Sorry bout that. what I do remember, vividly, was that they where not stories you'd find in the main stream, not something your casual reader would ever want to read. They fit more as Psychological deep dives into how people work, how they acted and how they eventually broke, and you could only really find them on the various obscure reading sites out there that aren't big enough to worry about being censured.
I tend to dive very deep to find stories from certain obscure genre's.
Some of them are frankly horrifying, and the death of the main character brings about immense relief because of the pain they suffered was finally ending, or in others it make you sad for days or weeks on end at the injustice of their end, when all they had wanted to do was save the world.
A shame we don't see more of them, Genuinely well written stories with believable characters.
I can only stomach so much of the copy and paste power trip fantasies out there nowadays where everything is all unnatural joy, the author lives out their baser fantasies by implanting themselves into the book, and the characters feel like 1 dimensional mascots, instead of people, for the author to play god with.
"He died thinking he was saving the world. We should all be so lucky."
The fact that they had those aid shuttles ready to go to send down to Earth at any time tells you all you need to know about the people of Elysium.
By the numbers, I don't see how operating 24 hours a day 365 days a year they could keep up with demand. They would have to dedicate industry to build up aid to support. Also, in this power vacuum war and mayhem would likely cause more destruction and death. People need purpose. Having robots solve your problems does not make you a better human.
Earth is fucked, this would just make more people starve.
I bet they have supplies for a day max. Demanding to cure everyone on the planet... And i bet they will run out of space for just a several hours...
@@JordenLeonard This is the initial wave of pre-existing med bed equipped shuttles being triaged to the most severe locations. What we don't see are the off screen factories being spun up to build more med beds at a very high priority. Nor do we see all the other changes an automated economy suddenly reoriented towards the health and well being of its newly expanded citizenry would be. As for purpose, dying from overwork in order to make some rich guy's economic metrics go 'up' isn't exactly the most fulfilling for humanity. We can hope to do better than the dull cancerous hellscape the economic elite happily delivered to humanity in this sci-fi scenario.
@@jasonp.1195 I think the dull cancerous hellscape would be better than the anarchy wars that follows a human society with idle hands because they don't have to support themselves anymore.
The director, Neill Blomkamp, got the idea for the movie when we and his friend were caught, extorted and dropped off outside of the town by Mexican police, and they walked back to their hotel through dark, dangerous and terribly poor part of Mexican town but their horizon was an illuminated, walled US border. He imagined living in these slums, looking at the border and dreaming to get there one day.
...where they still wouldn't have healthcare.
@@AtomicBuffalo 🤣 Thanks for the chuckle.
yeah, sittin around, "dreaming" not working, dreaming about a better life rather then then building one, typical Mexican mindset.
Ngl shit probably looked absolutely crazy like everything pitch black and the only light is this big ass wall with a American flag over it like the sea wall from blade runner 2049
Difference is, unlike Elysium, anyone can come to the US. All you have to do is get a green card, which is not some impossible task. Once you have that, you can get naturalized to become a full US citizen. Also unlike Elysium, the US is happy to have you immigrate and become a citizen, so long as you're actually willing to work and contribute meaningfully to society and aren't just coming to free load off the work of others.
This is such a good movie. Best main bad guy, really great hero, amazing visuals, great story, incredible future tech ideas. What else can you wish?
A realistic computer system? Apparently, they are still using IDE if you look at the boot screen
4:43 Spider is relieved to see the androids arrive in time to support him, even congratulating them on their work.
It's also symbolic MAX dying this way. Elysium was thought to be a state of eternal happiness by the Greeks. Was there way of interpreting heaven. In Max's death he both literally and spirituality entered Elysium.
"My little Max"
That always got me 😭
It has always impressed me too, my friend, my little maxim.
One of the best Matt Damon's works for sure - my favorite "cyberpunk" movie of all time.
Max's self-sacrifice moves me so much.
One of his worst to me. No one is entitled to anything. You have to earn it.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 Please tell me your comment is not in reference to the movie. If so, then... my god... I've never seen a more brain dead take in my life...
@@thunberbolttwo3953 How did the people of Elysium "earn" it? "Born into the right family" is not an answer.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 The people of Elysium are *literally entitled at birth* with free quality healthcare because they’re of billionaire lineage, stfu
@@thunberbolttwo3953 how did the Elysium citizens earn it you doofus
4:06 Holy crab that Bass.
Think that Bass is trying to signify the heart beat of the little girl and how she's healed from her terminal illness
I can't lie this scene got me pretty emotional this movie was sooo underrated and damn good !
It's a fun and happy ending, but I can't help but think that the robots of that one little station would very quickly be completely overwhelmed by everyone on earth, and pretty soon there wouldn't be enough for anyone.
I love how they said this movie was about the evil of the 1%. In truth, the 99.999% of humanity turned the world into an overpopulated cesspool. The people on the station could not maintain total control over them, so the quality of life on earth was largely the product of those living there. The few who built the station chose to separate from humanity, and even if they wanted to share their technology, it would have to be rationed to the most dire of cases because there is no way to provide for everyone.
Not quite true, each of just the three shuttles had at least two dozen beds that could heal the worse of a humans ailments in under a minute, all without using anything but power. The benefit to humanity of the dispatched shuttles is at least a million peoples worst medical conditions treated each week for no economic costs. That's a billion people treated of terminal disease in 20 years with only 72 beds. It's the **speed** of the medical procedure and the fact that it's literal re-atomization, which means the device clearly wouldn't be capable of wearing out, since re-arranging organic atoms in an entire body at once is well above self repairing technology levels. These people are holding back star trek levels of fabricate anything (including more fabricators) from raw feedstock and forcing billions to work for a pittance. This release of technology would have saved everyone.
That's not the full point of the end. It's about the 1% no longer being able to hoard their technology and now its access is for more people to do good with. Its a message about privatised health care and why it's a horrible in humane thing for the wider population.
Elysium serves as a stand in for america, capitalist driven and focuses on hoarding wealth and power for the few while the many suffer under them. Instead of building many apartments on the space station to fit millions of people, they build nice gardens and pools for only a few thousand
@@woolfoma - All technology requires maintenance and resources. Inevitably, those machines would not be able to provide care for all who seek it. Cornucopia technology doesn’t exist…not even in Star Trek. You could help a lot of people, but not everyone.
@@sorcerous8401 - That what people think, but I see a massive earthbound population that was in a downward spiral by their own choices. The people on the station controlled much, but they didn’t control the masses. Lawlessness was the rule for most of the planet. That’s not the elite 1% doing that…it’s the 99% choosing that. If you examine many 3rd world nations, while dictators and warlords might hold power, they couldn’t withstand the populace if it revolted. The population chooses to live in oppression rather than risk death to overthrow their oppressors. We saw this In Afghanistan…so few willing to fight for a free country, and when we left, it fell to the Taliban immediately.
Those wanting to blame others for their problems always want to point to some oppressive boogie man, but the reality is that we make our own choices, and society becomes what we are willing to tolerate.
The song "breaking a promise" one of the best soundtracks I ever heard.
When you don’t give the people what they want, the people will just come and get it.
I don't think so. People are just so blind with the sh*t Elite classes do to them.
Spoken like a true anarchist
Then they bring their problems over, and now nobody gets what they want.
@@planetkcthe word you're looking for is communist.
Anarchy doesnt mean no rules.
@@mattca353 u cant give people "what they want" in communism.
the scene of the first shuttle launching for Earth. is one of the most powerful moments.
This is my favorite documentary about the US healthcare system!
Except we don't have miracle med beds that heal everything. Just a bunch of quacks that barely know what they are doing themselves.
What does this movie have anything to do with it?
US healthcare you have many options. No hospital can legally turn someone away. It's one main reason why ERs are often filled with people abusing it for everything. USA also has more charities donations then anywhere on this planet. You guys really need to stop hating on stuff because you are told. I lived in the "free" healthcare world and its awful. You have to buy private or go on a death waiting list because the "free" is managed like everything else government does (horribly). Cant really blame them.. anything that is given money for free with no regards to quality, services or the product itself will always be awful.
Movie was more about Kings and peasants then anything.. could even say communism if we really wanted to push some political crap like yourself.
This movie had elites locked away in rich mansions and the very poor lived on earth. The very poor could never be anything other then very poor (just like communism). No promotions, no middle class, no growth. You are just forever in poverty and then you die... unless your "leaders" let you up.
@@bobshanery5152 you clearly don't understand what a joke is. I will be generous and allocate (give) some of my time to explain it to you in layman terms so you can sleep at night. First I will explain the financial aspect of why the US should have a better healthcare system, then explain the statistical (numbers) of how that is not the case, and finally summarize as a whole why my joke was humorous.
To start the US has the world largest economy in terms of GDP (Gross Domestic Product, basically a measure of how much money it makes from selling goods each year) at just under 21 trillion US dollars. Now when we look at the number of billionaires in the world we see a similar scenario. The US has the worlds most billionaires at 724. This is a summary of the financial aspect as promised in my introduction.
Now we will explore how the US compares to countries in a measure of its healthcare rankings. According to the 2023 rankings for national healthcare systems the US is at 18th on the list. Now given the financial power of the US it only seems logical that it should be ranked one of the best, if not the best healthcare system in the world. The US also has the highest average medical costs at just over $12,000 per year for each person, while Denmark (the highest ranked healthcare system) pays roughly half that per person.
Finally, when someone on the internet (aka myself) makes a joke about a man dying while there is technology to cure him in a matter of minutes, simply because he cannot afford, it's funny because it reflects the current US healthcare system. He is not allowed access to treatment that can save him simply because he is not able to afford it. Money is placed as the priority over the health of all the individuals. Finally, this is a fictional (not real) movie, so by me comparing it to a modern day US healthcare system is part of the joke.
Also you don't understand how communism works. At its very roots communism was designed to get rid of kings and peasants. It was meant to place everyone on equal ground financially and materially. If you were a successful merchant you didn't make more money than the struggling farmer. Money as a whole would be collected and redistributed to individuals in a mostly even manner.
I hope you found this to be helpful, and now can understand why I made the satirical (sarcastic) joke and why it should be humorous (funny). If you want to learn more about your so called kings and peasants a great book to read is "The People of the Abyss" by Jack London. That shows a very accurate depiction of kings and peasants in the industrial revolution in London.
@@bobshanery5152 Found the american lol
/woosh
3:23 Notice the grunt in the background. He magically managed to hit the guy from like five feet away. What high quality acting.
High ping
It's not writing, it's camerawork. If you gonna critize, know what you're criticizing.
The acting is fine, grunts push looks good, other guy absorbing the blow looks good.
The camera angle catching that and the editors not noticing and reshooting that plus it making it all the way to release is where the issue is.
But there is a decent chance they saw it and didnt think it was worth reshooting.
Regardless, nothing wrong with either actors work.
This scene gets me every time. Love the score.
S*** I didn't know Pablo Escobar got reincarnated and saved the population of Earth
Thats why the terminators killed him
😆😂🤣
@@BipoIarbear fucking t800s
Sh*t I didn't know your Mom still let's you live with her.
@@marstillo8087 op
Even Kruger is a citizen of Elysium... place the pieces in the Atomizer and lets see what new haircut has after this.
I like the idea but I feel like they would immediately create a new database and the problem would just start over again
I think the point was pablo Escobar made the program they possibly can't hack without jason Bourne being alive.
They toppled the hierarchy so now the automated system is turned into a democracy not authoritarian.
It's now run by the people so everyone now has a say in what happens on Elysium.
@@bahamutr4270 you, my good sire, have made my DAY
And even if it was, there would still be time for many on earth to be healed
Usually if you fuck up the production database, there would be a backup you can just load back in.
Assuming the bots do not defend that control room against any such attempts.
I can totally see how the Martian is a prequel to Elysium being set like 115 years earlier. And Max great great grand father is the famous first astronaut to be stranded on Mars.
Awesome movie - awesome scene. pity Jason Bourne here didn't make it, but still... Great movie.
Yea but he ultimately sacrificed himself for all of us… it makes the ending even more meaningful!
@@jameshart678 Very true! Thank You for the response. :) Have a nice day. ;)
@@jameshart678 he sacrificed 10% of Avatar too
3:37 Anyone else find it wild that a space station runs on IDE drives and 4gb of RAM?
You'd get a kick out of what runs our nuclear defense programs.
In pure command prompt you don't need as much ram as with UI so it could work, the IDE, let's just hope they have a good raid plan...
So, now the whole, already massively overpopulated world has access to what is nothing less than immortality tech (Kruger and Carlyle were over 100 years old). Good job, Max, I hope there is at least some technology to grow food in large quantities on Elysium.
they have the technology to heal any bodily lesion and cure any incurable disease (both in a matter of seconds!) I wouldn't doubt they have the tech to grow essentially infinite amounts of food. they could even use this healing tech to eviscerate a whole ass cow before restoring it completely and then repeating the whole process, perhaps indefinitely.
They need to now expand beyond.
@@somestarman892exactly they literally have atomization technology, an automated workforce and vehicles which can easily perform space travel
If they can Re-Atomize the entire human body they can probably create cows out of thin air
Capitalist crying that common workers are now healthy and now can go back to work without any problem. The droids factories are now being repurposed to make robots for cleaning up waste, agricultural, education etc and not to serve the whim of the few. Boo hoo..cry me river
bro jason bourne is a hero. he sacrificed himself for literally the entire world.
Maybe a few thousand before the resources ran out. And now nobody gets anything.
Yay.
@@sid2112How can you run outta resources, I’m pretty those regeneration machines were powered by the sun
@@rickkcir2 You think they make new skin and bone from sunbeams and hope? The mass has to come from something and last I checked most mass on a space station is accounted for as a matter of literal survival. So....
@@sid2112 Actually, they prolly do make the skin and bone from sunbeams and hope. It’s literally said that those machines “reatomized” the body back to normal. In other words, they pretty much fix your body at an atomic level. And if this thing is capable of reorganizing atoms, then that means it can be powered by anything like a piece of wood. It’ll destroy the piece of wood at an atomic level and use it for materials to rebuild the body.
@@rickkcir2how does it works?" .... Science!"
Great sci-fi movie. Jodie Foster was an outstanding villain. Must watch this again. Tomorrow to celebrate the 4th I will watch it again.
The amount of effort it takes for the poor to get free healthcare. This is supposed to be a fictional film but it is becoming more relevant as healthcare prices keep increasing over the years, to the point only the rich are able to afford it.
For this Matt Damon adult character, 'Little Max' has to be one of the most spot-on childhood lookalikes I've seen depicted in a movie ever! You can truly see the pain of a kid growing up in poverty and hardship-it's like they captured Max's essence, struggles and all, and just shrank him down.
The Child really looks like him. I am certain this child looks more like a child Version of Matt Damon than teenager Matt Damon ever looked like in reality.
Those commentors that are complaining about _everyone_ getting healthcare and assistance seem to not realise that in the Universe of Elysium, _they_ would be one of the 99.999% impoverished on Earth, not one of the elite 0.001% on Elysium.
Are you currently a Billionaire?
It depends on the currency you are referring to ;)
I don't have to be a billionaire to realize this is a terrible plan.
@@robertmartin6800 Exactly. There's a reason the rich can afford this stuff. There isn't enough for everyone.
Many people suddenly become _Scientist_ and _Profesor_ in here.
😂😂😂
fun story: the assembly code in this movie is valid and will run like it's supposed to :)
District 9, Chappie, Elysium are all such amazing movies containing social commentary themes in the fabric but concentrating on story and character as the main focus to make them both entertaining and thought provoking, add in the superb CGI and cinematography and if people had more intelligence they would recognise them as genius.
Rick: changes a 1 to a 0
Spider: changes ILLEGAL to *LEGAL
this scene always makes me cry, especially after the reboot sequence
_"The two most important days in your life are the day you're born and the day you find out why."_ - Mark Twain
A lot of comments here remind me of when people say "There isn't enough food to go around!" Then Monsanto said they annually make food for 10 Billion. Always people looking for a reason not to try and help.
Ah the circle will come back lol human nature never changes
One thing I didn't understand about the overall situation is that they don't show Elysium extracting large amounts of resources from the Earth to sustain itself; suggesting that the space station is self sustaining in some way other than perhaps some luxury finishes like the Italian marble they referenced in the middle of the movie. Also, with robots handling security, it shows that robotics could have handled ALL labor jobs and they were technologically capable of cleansing the planet of pollution and garbage. I understand not wanting to be "taken for a ride" by people who will never improve their own circumstances, but there comes a point in having such a callous attitude and no faith in your fellow man that the results of such a way of thinking begin to compound and you just spread misery. They could've fixed Earth's problems if they wanted to, but their ability to assert their will and authority over the poor was more important to them.
Can't belive this movie is 10 years old...
I love this movie❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
The fact that literally all they had to do to override this entire trillion dollar system was change "illegal" to "legal" like they were trying to boot up an MSDOS game is hilarious lmfao
Right! They changed an option on a program not on the OS so why does it require a whole system reboot.
It ran on windows 10
@@ambushbob5383Well as someone whose fucked with the android operating system, I had to root my device and then any changes to the main files of the OS would require a reboot of my phone to kick in?
It's pretty realistic. A core boot kernel is not that complex. If you look at the boot kernel for Windows, it's relatively similar in code. The kernel boot sequence would not be that complex.
@@ambushbob5383 Because the Elysium system ran on a Microsoft OS which requires a reboot for everything you do. Had it been run on Linux, a reboot would not have been required. Obviously a Microsoft OS.
This scene is basically Blood Diamond.
Wth is blood diamond
@@elvis5384 It's a movie starring Leonardo DiCaprio
@@OZTutoh thanks bruv
@@elvis5384how african countries have people including kids to mine them, warlord issues, violence and deaths, diamond that cost human bloods.
I love how he just used text editor like he was setting up configs for Minecraft
This movie makes me cry still
first time that i watched this scene i cried because max died a hero
These guys have atomic reshuffling tech equivalent to alchemy, resources aren't an issue, so I mean, good ending
Ending 1 life in exchange for saving the lives of Millions
But in the long run, dooming trillions.
One of my favorite movies of all time!
Such an underrated movie.
May your sacrifice always be remembered Max😢😢😢😢😢
This reminds me of a STVoyager episode wherein the Doctor finds himself on an alien hospital ship full of dying people that could be saved but the elite choose not to.
Just shows you you always need better cybersecurity.
That was a great movie.
I really liked this movie
That’s why you need to learn linux command line, folks! You better be real good and real fast with it.
If only they used arch
It's insane that there is a segment of people that saw this movie and instead of getting the jaw-droppingly obvious message of, "the rich will kill us all just to maintain their sense of comfort and hierarchy", they said "those beds are real and Tom Hanks is conspiring to keep them from me."
Atleast Max was able to take himself out, no one else but him.😔 a true legend.
of course, they neglect to mention how the entire system likely fell apart soon thereafter due to stretching limited resources too thin, and the crime bosses in charge of the underworld likely started charging exorbant rates for access to the medbays as differnet factions fought for control of the robot army.
My sibling in Christ if they have resources to build & maintain Elysium they have resources to spare for medical care
@@SportyMabamba only a fool assumes resources are infinite, or that there will be no consequences to letting the masses run rampant.
@@SportyMabamba Your statement makes so little sense, I am not even sure it's worth explaining to you.
@@kabeltelevizioThis ending feels a bit hollow knowing that the system is going to be overwhelmed and non-functional without the robots basically turning humanity into hamsters in luxurious cages. Makes you wonder the implications of robots basically taking over all functions from Humanity in the name of free healthcare...Sounds like a robot empire too me. With humans as a pet project.
Just my 2 cents, but when the robots entered the control room they told the human "officers" to stand down. When one didn't and even pointed his gun at the robots, the robots then subdued him. If the robots do not recognize Elysium officers authority to override Elysium law (and even not recognizing the President of Elysium ordering the override), then I doubt the robots would allow thugs on Earth to impede the duties of the robots. The EMS robots are being sent to help people of Earth. They'll know that not all humans in need will be able to reach them on their own (i.e the disabled or incapacitated). The EMS robots will find the humans in need. If the Earth thugs intervene, I'm sure security robots will ensure otherwise. Of course, we weren't shown the detailed workings and protocols of the robots, so perhaps the thugs could simply order the robots to stop helping the sick or something like that, but its unclear how much the robots protocols and duties supersede the orders of humans or now "Elysium Citizens."
My Little Max.
So many problems come up, when living on an artificial terrain in space. It would not take much to fall apart.
Scariest part is that this soon will be reality….
The future of this world
Near future 😢
this will be the only way we ever get the health care we citizens deserve.
The robots just following protocol, so a new protocol was established.
New meaning meets purpose of life
This movie was great, fk the haters bro, this movie got no love when it came out.
With the CEO of united health getting killed this film hits different now
this dudes death could start a religion in that universe.
I was scrolling and the thumbnail looked like jocko for a second ngl
Yesterday I went in for a regular eye exam. I always get my eyes dilated to look for signs of retinal detachment. Welp, my unlucky number came up and the optometrist rushed me out the door to go to see a specialist the same afternoon for emergency eye laser surgery. Thank goodness I 1) have good insurance 2) live in Houston, TX with the Medical Center just down the road 3) the specialist could squeeze me in for my medical emergency 4) I make a good living so I could afford the expensive out-of-pocket expenses. I would have paid anything to save my eyesight. It was excruciating and a wild day, but the doctors were able to discover a serious issue to save my eyesight!!! And I know I'm damn lucky that if I were more poor in the U.S.A. or in a country without a developed Healthcare system... I would have to resign myself to eventually going blind in one of my eyes. 😢 Fuck the American health care system.
" or in a country without a developed Healthcare system" to "Fuck the American health care system." What a thoughtful rational comment....
@@the_expidition427yeah put two and two together, you live in a wasteland that wants you to die poor lol
Such a short sighted movie premise, there's no chance they have the resources to help everyone planet side. Once they get medical help, then the food shortages will get worse.
Anyone who reads this, as someone who suffers from a heart arrhythmia, from articles I've read about medbay, how close or well theorized are we from being able to realistically have something to cure any and or all ailments?
Some of my neighbors who are feudal bureaucrats say that this is the ultimate populist propaganda video.
Here's the button to work for Apple as their smartest employee
MY LİTLE MAX 😢
This pictures how most rich people wanna do this they wanna leave the weak, hungry, and sick in the dirt meanwhile some people wanna help each other and make it fair for us all but knowing how this world is nothing is fair
Sad part is now they’re gonna tear each other apart
To be fair they already were
I loved Wagner Mora since Trope De Elite his Brazilian movies
why are the med robot techs using ipads? So they can download information in a less efficient manner?
So that you never forget where you come from.
unlike other movie where some wacky hacking CIA in 10s in his mom basement, they do try to make hacking in this movie look legit like a program written by someone that knew the system and physically delivered it to server in server room, i give that at least. although, i must say future where they create magical bed can cure anything but still use SQL in they own super computer is just weird
Soon "We can't help all civilians because they make 15 kids each" AFWIKAZILIUM.
And 5 minutes later, they changed it all back and rebooted. A new war raged on between Elysium and those they have subjugated. Millions on earth will die, yet one woman, who was cured then imprisoned in Elysium as a child, fights on as the head of the Resistance. Being raised and taught there, she is taken in by a military academy and as she rises up through the ranks, she comes to the to the realization that she is fighting for evil. She knows all of their weaknesses, including how to destroy it!
Please don't give Hollywood any ideas
Then she falls in love, makes children of her own, and due to the rebels destroying a lot of medical equipment in the fighting, caused her own children to die from the lack of medical care. She realise that resources are finite, changed her mind, and went back to Elysium.
Not if part of the program that was in Max's brain was designed to essentially take Elysium's population numbers and add them to the new list before scrubbing the old data completely.
President of Elysium: Who the hell do you think you are?
Max: I'm nobody, but now everyone you thumbed your nose at is now a citizen of Elysium. Only this time we stop staring at hell, and finally bring heaven to our doorstep.
That's cute. Not gonna happen
It never ceases to amaze me that in moments of crisis in movies, when there's no time to waste, that they always have time for something that isn't critical. In the books that I write, the hero doesn't bother to tell the girl he loves her. He just acts, and she understands that there's no time for mush.
that's because you're autistic and your books aren't good
And with no death and no resources the population of Earth starved 3 months later...
It's a nice warning for the very rich...
One issue I might have with this movie is how unlikely it is that not a single citizen of Elysium had smuggled out those healing machines to Earth. Citizens can't get arrested, right? It would only take a handful of citizens to feel bad for the people on Earth to pull this off. Even in Hunger Games, the elite class had a ton of sympathizers against the government.
The Elites are super super rich like billionaires to be able to live on Elysium. Citizen’s can’t be arrested if they don’t commit crimes, if they try to help people on earth they will be shun be their own. I see a lot of people voicing their support for the civilian deaths in Gaza today, but I still don’t see anyone stick their neck out to help them.
Neill Blomkamp is a titan.
Todos tenemos algo especial max
Algo que ya tenemos destinados a hacer
Algo para lo que ya necemos
That hit hard
With this he destroys elysium.
Good riddance to that place if the tech survives
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Turn on the frog lights
For some reason every time I play Cyberpunk I see V as MAX in the moment where he chooses Johnny to take over know he will die regardless.
Too bad people don’t generally realize that by doing this, they doomed everyone.
No they didn't. It's a message about making high quality health care available for everyone instead of just letting the 1% control it all. It's a message against private health care in America and how its a big negative for society as a whole. Almost every other 1st world nation has free health care and they can pull it off just fine, it's only America that hoards it all and let's the poor die
For notice, not all have a real life or death situation.
Everyone was already gonna be doomed either way, this just gave a possibility of salvation.
Under rated movie i hope in the story they built statues of Matt Damon's character.
The tech is there, just highly suppressed.
A patient cured, is a customer lost.
Yeah no. We literally can’t “reatomize” a leukemia patient
@@alexanderzippel8809 Not publicly. Various stories up and about how there are SSP going on, in the background and that they have the tech to revive a head.
I mean, 9/11 was more than a demo job. It was a destruction of records. Records of $3 trillion expenditures. What happened to the money? Black Box projects.
The tech's there, were just not allowed to touch it, unless you go through a lot of hoops
@@alexanderzippel8809year old comment, but you can.
Its light-based. Like a highly-focalized laser going right through you, restructuring the cells into healthy cells.
Hence, heavily suppressed
And then Elysium looks 10x worse than Earth, some people probably even moved back on the planet.
* Rewrites the program*
This world is for everyone