30 Year Supply Of Survival Food Ruined!
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- Don't make this mistake! I packed up this forever food almost two years ago and today I found out that I messed up. Wheat berries are an excellent food to store in your prepper pantry for survival. They can easily last 30 years or more. Here's all the info you need to know about this superfood and why it should be part of your food-prepping plans to hedge against food shortages. People have been storing wheat berries for thousands of years for a reason. You should too. 👍 SUBSCRIBE: bit.ly/2Iy7PK3
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i grew up eating weevily flour . we just sifted them out and ate it. my parents grew up during the great depression, so they didnt let a few weevils waste a bag of flour or rice or anything edible
We did the same. We just considered the weevils as extra protein
I remember my grandma doing that too. She didn't waste anything. Every last cheerio or grain of rice on my plate got eaten or I wasn't done. I wonder what the people that wrongfully call me a hoarder will think when they're begging me for food?
waste not, want not
That is why your common sifters were made. Take out the bugs.
@@DrOldhen oh wow that makes sence 🤯
McDonalds fries are a forever food that can be stored just about anywhere. Underneath furniture, between couch cushions, in the gaps between the car door and the car seat. I have a bunch of McDonalds fries sitting in the bottom of my desk drawer. Some of them have been sitting in there for over 20 years, and they are the exact same color they were the day after I ordered them.
Makes you wonder. If bugs don't like them what is the fries nutrient density?
That’s siriously funny 😂😂😂
True!
Lol that’s so true - they last forever hidden under the floor mats in the car 😂
Left a Little Caesar's pizza in my old room when I moved out. No one went in it for a year, apparently. The pizza still looked like it was left out over night.
Ok,ok. thank you for answering a question I've pondered for decades. "If bread has no nutritional value, how is it people of the past seemed to live off of bread and cheese?" Because their bread did have nutrition. 👍
During the modernisation of Egypt they had a serious problem when they moved from traditional fired earth ovens to modern ones, as the Iron in their diet was from cooking the bread on the walls of the earth ovens. To further the problem their strict religious practices forbeyed adding anything to the flour to make up for the deficiency.
Wheat today is 12x less nutritious then the wheat grown a few hundred years ago and that's sad.
@@fredbrandon1645 and yet probably have still grown more food than you and still accurate in that. Just because a Monsanto crop can survive and produce more volume, does not mean it is the same nutritiously dense
The cheese had more nutrition too.
They didn't live off bread and cheese. Mushrooms, beans, foraged fruits and vegetables, and offal. You can't live off bread alone.
Several decades ago I'd read that the amount of time needed for the bugs to die in the deep freezer was 20 to 40 days. Probably because IF the center of the large bulk bags doesn't get cold enough for long enough the eggs can survive. You were lucky it was only one bucket. I'd also read that the cold from the CO2 could weaken the bucket, as well as damage some of the grain (think freezer burned meat), so the magazine recommended putting the pieces of dry ice on a coffee filter or paper plate at the top of the bucket. Since CO2 is heavier than air it will sink down into the bucket.
Neat!
@@farmingoffthegrid9647 yes I hear that many people only freeze their items for 3 days now. But freezers are better than they were, they don't always last as long but they get colder.
@@farmingoffthegrid9647 -- I put all flour and rice in -20 C freezer for 3 - 4 weeks. Open bags and spread out on cookie trays for 24 hours to get rid of any humidity. Then seal in bags and store in buckets. Always rotate using food:- one new in, one old out.
Put some bay leaves in the containers in which you store grains and spices. Sometimes the products are contaminated with weavel eggs in the store. Bay leaves work like a charm, even if the product is contaminated the eggs and bugs will die. If no contamination is present, they won't even come near your products.
About how many leaves? I have a bay leaf bush, and would love more usage than in my occasional homemade soup and such. I have thrown a few in drawers and food cabinets.
I agree they work great in cupboards also.
I thought bay leaves.. we're a deterrent. They don't kill bugs...just keeps them away. O2 absorbers in an airtight container will kill bugs..no need to freeze. Nothing survives without Oxygen
Found a mess of them in my house in the spring. Never seen one before.
Once you get weevils in a bag of flour check all your dried pasta, cocoa mixes, oatmeal, and anything that has flour in it....
I got them a couple years back and I'm still finding them here and there but I'm killing everyone I see... we live in a farm and they are the Dickens to get rid of!
I now place all my dried pastas and all flour items in plastic bags in hopes that will contain them if I get them again.
Mom had an old Hoosier type cabinet that had an open flour bin in it and you just sifted out from it...had them in it most every year come summer... she'd just sift on....if the flour had too many she'd dump but back in the 60's flour was pretty high like it is now days...if you figure what a dollar bought back then 10 lb bag cost about $1.11 then...so it weren't too cheap....
I spent 23 Years in the Navy. After 4 months at sea it would become a common issue to find Weevils in prepackaged single serve breakfast cereal. You just learn to pour on the milk and wait for the weevils to float to the top, scoop them out and eat your breakfast.
Mind you, 4+ months into a deployment you didn’t have fresh milk, you were drinking Magnolia boxed milk with a 99 year shelf life, so regardless of the cereal or the milk, it tasted like crap anyway.
My Dad had lots of interesting stories about eating while at sea on an aircraft carrier as well. 😄
Ugh..what a memory..wait for the floaters..lol! Thanks for your service and Happy Veterans day, btw👍
@@HAXMAN tell your Dad happy Veterans Day. I did 2 carriers during my time, USS Midway 1982-86 and USS Independence 1991-94 😄
@@redonionsyummy thank you Amy, it was an Honor to serve.
@@connie1070 Happy Veterans Day to you!
Whoever does your editing gets mad props on the intro here - the reflection of "other you" in the refrigerator at the beginning absolutely sells the idea of there being more than one of you. Also, great content! Love your channel!
Thanks Jon! I edit my own videos. I appreciate that very much!
I just thought it was a twin brother, lol.
Goodness! This was the first time I watched your channel. Loved all the silliness. Thanks for the entertaining info.
Kim , you DO need to turn-on your Grinder BEFORE adding seed etc . The seed drops down into the 'mill' and slightly jams it ;that wee-pause before it goes . Over time, this damages the 'brushes' and the armature, commonly called a 'rotor' , this Will halve the life of the motor . Dave NZ
Thanks for the tip!
You mean, like the bright red warning sticker said in the bowl?!!!
Exactly what I was thinking. I'm glad you mentioned it and it looks like they got the message.
Having a warning label is one thing but knowing why the label is there and what the consequences are of ignoring it are a whole not her level. To quote the old Gi joe cartoons "knowing is half the battle"
@@nathanhale7444 earplugs lol
There's a reason why they want you to turn it on BEFORE you fill it. Your milling machine is working WAY too hard to get started because you fill it before you turn it on. By doing that your going to burn out the motor a lot faster than normal.
I lived in Sri Lanka as a kid and having cooked weevils in your bread and any bakery goods was just normal so I’m living proof that they won’t kill you! 😂
Its not about death its disgusting and can cause sickness
If you boil the weevils at least five minutes (magic number for sterilizing other substances), they get sterilized?
…and if the government wants us to eat bugs, I guess weevils are another source of protein?!
@@calid. There is no evidence that weevils "cause sickness". They are harmless to eat.
meat is meat. 'nuff said. :)
eat zee bugz trying to make a takeover i hear....
While other folks here are saying you can just pick the weevils out, I have to weigh in: it looks like those bugs have had 2 years to eat the inside of every one of those berries and left none for you but the husk. Not the nutritious food you were banking on anymore. And I'm sure when PHTF, there will still be plenty of yummy bugs available in nature if you're deparate enough for forage for them. I vote toss it.
We're having a really hard year with pantry moths and I'm arguing with my mother over throwing out $20 worth of flour in the sifting bin. Oh... it's going out if she likes it or not. I can stay up hours later than her and still get up earlier. Thing is, pantry moth larva are big fat wet maggots and not the same at all as weevils.
Moth larva get the flour wet and you know you can't eat flour that's got wet and has been sitting out any more than you should let cooked pasta or rice sit at room temperature and still eat it. There's a bacteria that inhabits grains and cooking doesn't kill it or the toxins it excretes. We can handle the small amount that's inherent with safe food storage and handling, but this stuff rapidly explodes in poplulation under moist and warm conditions. Re-heating and cooking doesn't remove the toxins this bacteria excretes.
So, even though foods getting 'some' weevils is ok to pick them out, please everyone please, consider the rule is pest specific and food specific; and also evaluate your stored grain or flour did it also get wet from the bugs' wastes? Is just lousy with bugs? Is it still flour or is it now pure bug poop and they've eaten all the nutrient out of it and left behind an empty powder that only looks like flour.
A few weevils are ok in stores that have long shelf life if the infestation hasn't been going on very long.
Remember, that the reason long-term storage of whole wheat berries works is because they are still viable as seed. Once the seed is damaged and killed, whether we do it by grinding it or a bug does it by chewing through it, that seed is going to go rancid in a few days. You should be just as ok about discarding that as you would tossing a bag of ground wheat berries past the expiry date.
That's my .02 plus a few nickles. Now I must go back to my conspiratorial job of throwing out our pantry behind my mother's back tonight.
Feed the pantry moths to your chickens!
@@sheilal3172 I think we're the only town in all of the US that's not allowed to keep chickens. I would have let them in the house on this one. The moths cacooned all through the cupboards and down in the cracks and I have a frozen shoulder. I made my daughter and my mom clean that out, and now we're putting all our food dry into jars. Those things ate through plastic packages! And we emptied the cupboards and stank it up with moth pucks. I don't know if it kills that kind of moth, but I think that stuff will kill anything. We all went choking dry mouth everytime we used the kitchen. The moths are finally all gone, at least until spring. We've always had some moths fluttering about and used traps or the cats got them and they were gone by thanksgiving, but this fall they just exploded. Someone left the flour bin lid open. Argh.They even ate into my dry beans!
Your points are valid; pest-specific is correct.
And yes, once the food has been consumed, it's useless. They burned it, and we would also. But in flour, if it's just weevils, sift and go. Cereals the same.
Yes, grubs of any kind in a dry good: toss it all. (Moth larvae are grubs) Details definitely matter!
@@melkel2010 I'm sorry for all of this; that was a big pain and a loss. Grandma kept all her dry goods in containers with snap-lids. Never saw her food infested, but prevention is the best cure! I hope you are clear of them for a long time.
Had weevils in my oats as a middle schooler... my biology teacher totally researched it for me and even asked for a sample...he said it's ok to eat and it just adds a slight protein as long as its fully cooked...he then proceeded to ask my parents why they were making me eat it, he learned that day what it's like to choose when you're poor.So we all learned, but....cook the weevils and you're fine.
Bug chitin is actually Poisonous to humans, we're not biologically equipped to process it either. So while you may get a Very Small amount of protein, you also might as well dose a small amount of arsenic with each meal... 🤔🤷♂️
@@Section_230 That depends on the bug and Wheevils aren't
@@nehpets216 Wrong, all bugs
@@nehpets216 Live in the pods and eat the bugs if you want to. I'm not going to. Thanks. I'm also not going to lie to people. Someone can snort cocaine if they want, doesn't mean I need to tell them it's healthy.
@@Section_230 I don't want to eat them and I'll avoid it if possible. I'm just saying that they aren't going to make you sick if you do and claiming that they will means that you'be been misinformed. To be clear the EPA lists bug Chitin as: "Chitin (poly-N-acetyl-glucosamine) is one of the most common polymers found in nature. Structurally, it is related to cellulose, which consists of long chains of glucose molecules linked to each other.", "Chitin is present in the shells of all crustaceans and insects, and in certain other organisms including many fungi, algae, and yeast." and "No risks to humans are expected when products containing chitin"
Where you may have gotten the Arsenic information is that Weevils that eat rice that contains Arsenic will carry the Arsenic in them and Bollweevils that eat cotton are killed by having Arsenic left in the storage area with the cotton killing them. They post warnings about not eating those dead weevils as they contain arsenic.
Since the Cotton storage posts that someone must have been eating them and had to be warned to stop...
BTW my dad said in Vietnam rations we're so tight and supply ships couldn't get in....Flour with Bow Wheevels was reground and became cinnamon rolls, extra protein and a pastry delight. 👀 I guess if your starving you aren't so picky.
Yeah, you can eat the weevils, just add something to hide the flavour is all. To kill all bugs you have too freeze for 6 months(and somehow keep the grain dry so maybe vacuum seal with moisture absorbers and then freeze) OR you can heat at 220F in oven for..I can't remember if it's 20m or 2hrs. That only works if you're planning on just eating. If you want to grow them later then the 6 month freeze is the way to go.
Yeah it's a lot like cockroaches back in the day any that were running above the fireplace were encouraged into the stewpot to add to the flavour of the stew.
I wonder if you can just rince out the fras (weavel poo) before you grind it up. I'm not gonna be told by Claus schwab that I have to eat bugs because it's not true aside from the crisis they are creating but I wouldn't worry about something like a few weavel ground up in my flour as long as I can get rid of the fras.
@@thecelticprince4949 roaches just have to much ammonia. I guess it would mostly cook off but I'd rather feed them to my chickens. They can't get enough of the little buggers.
My dad said they had to ladle the weevils out of cold breakfast cereal on his ship during WW2. 😆
If you find weevils in a grain product in your pantry or cabinet you need to check everything. They tend to spread.
Just found your channel and enjoy it. Especially your sense of humor. Much needed these days. Blessings to the family.
Thanks for educating people on the nutrition chasm between fresh milled whole flour and store bought carb dust
That's a great term. Carb dust.
I don't freeze my bags of wheat berries because bugs and eggs survive long, cold winters up here in Northern Wisconsin so I figure a few days of freezing won't help. I just use oxygen absorbers and food grade buckets and have not had a problem so far, thankfully!
I'm glad you posted. Ive.never frozen any bags and I live in florida. I use mylar and 02 and diomataceous earth. Then I seal mylar and gamma lids. I can only hope all is well when I need it. 🙏
@@zamira08 I keep 1 year's worth on hand but I don't just keep it in storage, I rotate through it. Anything with flour that we bake, I grind flour. When we go through 2 buckets worth I buy another 50lb bag and that gets dated to use last. Make sure to prep things you actually use and know how to use your preps. Making bread from freshly ground wheat berries is different from using store-bought flour. It took me about 6-months of loaves like bricks that my family had to endure! Hahaha
@@zamira08 stupid question but how much Diomataceous earth are you adding to your bags?
Same here withe bucket and oxygen absorber
+1 for South Florida also. For grains, I use food grade buckets and excess oxygen absorbers for the volume. ie: For 5-gallons you should use 5-7 300cc oxygen absorbers, I use 10+. For non-grains, 200cc for a quart, I use 2-3x 300cc packets. It might be a waste but better safe than sorry. I've heard about freezing, but I don't currently have freezer space for this.
I just found your channel and WOW I’m super impressed. Well scripted, presented, videography, humor, etc, etc. I’m hooked! I know what I can watch over the long winter. Thank you!
I have a buddy who stores his food in Mylar bags and puts in about 5 oxygen absorbers. He has ones that were duds. So he opted to bump it up and be certain. The bags shrink down tight and dense. He stores them in 5 gallon buckets. I like his setup because they’re 1 gallon bags. So if something goes wrong. It hopefully isolates it. I like that he uses Mylar because it blocks out light. Which can destroy vitamins. Even some forms invisible radiation. It removes oxygen which is reactive to a lot of things. It causes vitamins to break down and oils to go rancid. It does what CO2 did for you. Also 1 gallon bags make it easier to portion and to carry in a hurry.
There was an extinct date tree variety found in an abandoned Israeli fort. It was at the top of a hill or Mesa I think? It was under siege when the Romans invaded. They finally surrendered but the storehouses were full of food. Among them were seeds to the extinct date tree. Some archeologists thought they would try to see if they would sprout. Out of 15 seeds. One sprouted. They’ve been trying to restart the tree species again. I honestly can’t remember if it was date or some kind of fruit bearing desert palm. So it is possible for seeds to last the rest of time.
It was a newly discovered variety of date. Two women grew them out.saw a program on PBS.
it was a date. There is a project devoted to it and now they have a whole grove of those date trees. I've seen videos on TH-cam about it.
Weevils are completely edible. I've had them in bulk rice before. You just freeze them or let them use up the oxygen then submerge the grain before use. The weevils, eggs and any heavily eaten grain will float to the top and can be poured off.
Weevils were also a problem in hard tac stores on ships. The squimish sailors would just make sure to eat below deck where they couldn't see if they has an infested piece or not.
You probably just transfered eggs to the good buckets
good information
Pretty sure that's where the joke came from, with the punch line *_"Always Chews the lesser of two Weevils..."_*
Might have to adjust your recipe. .. 😆
Thanks for that info 👍🏻
Just keep in mind that HDPE plastic is not airtight. It will seem like it at first but it will slowly allow air back into the bucket. So even with your CO2 purge, you’re eventually going to need to do it again. That’s why the Mylar bags are a superior solution. They coat the plastic with a very thin layer of aluminum to fill in all the little holes in the plastic. Polyolefins are gas permeable without a metal coating.
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you. I am a big believer in Mylar bags for the reason you stated in your comment. I am seeing TH-cam channels who demonstrate how to seal food in clear plastic bags and then heat seal the bag. And many preppers seem to be dumping food directly into 5 gallon tubs without first sealing the food in Mylar bags which is also risky. Mylar bags with oxygen absorbers are expensive but are so worth it in the long run. Great post Doug C.
But the weevils (and their eggs) also have a shelf life. As long as it's full of CO2 for the life span of any existing bugs and whatever hatches from the included eggs, you're good. It's not like more weevils are going to magically appear inside the bug-proof bucket just because there's now oxygen in there.
and the 5 gallon mylars are extra large so you can reuse them
Good to know. Thanks
Hear me out.. mylar coated bucket. Mind blown! ...srsly though, why don't they make this.
This video came just after I discovered that 4 of my 5kg rice bags were lost to pests while stored for over a year (I wonder why they pack rice on perforated bags...). The same day I checked the vacuum sealed ones and they where fine and didn't lost vacuum at all. Your video is packed with everything I should have done before and I will.
The perforated bags are for transport elevation changes and stacking. Think about the bag of chips that explodes or looks like it's about to explode when you go camping on the mountain.
@@angelduncan9147 That makes sense.
Well Mr. Haxman, the sealed frozen wheat grain buckets was a great idea, and you may be sorry that you listened to those people who don't understand that any kind of plastic bag has pores, small holes and voids. Look at the bags under a microscope to see them, but the pores and very small holes are there. Our company made blood cuffs to heat up blood for infusion into live patience for MW hospitals and we had to go to 10 mil bags just to keep the blood from oozing out through the pores and small holes in the blood cuffs (bags). Some say use mylar bags, but how thick are the bags ???, I would never use a bag thinner than a 10 mil bag.
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It is recommended to freeze grain 3 days, thaw 1 day, refreeze 3 more days, thaw, then add whatever you choose to replace the oxygen. Vacuum seal if you can. This helps catch additional weevil eggs that may have made it through the first freeze cycle that coupd sprouts after thawing.
One thing we did before we had a freezer large enough to process our berries was to leave purchased berries in their separate bags then store those in a bucket. Or we would repackage a bulk package (10+ lbs) in 2 to 5 pound portions in mylar or food saver bags. Then load up the bucket with several bags. We sprinkle bay leaves and diatomaceous earth (food grade) in and around food buckets. We also toss in a moisture absorber.
Sorghum is great! 2 crops in one. You collect the seed heads for saving seed and eating and collect the cane to extract juice and boil into a syrup.
We started with a packet of sorghum seed. Grew 2 patches and collected more seed so now we can plant a large patch next year.
Bugs don't eat much... Now older than my grandma was... My grandmother was a cook in the logging era camps in the NW... of the early 1900's. Grandma complained you could not get 100lb bags of flour anymore only 50lbs... These bags were opened and poured into an under counter tip out once common... 1950's. 100lbs at a time. It was my job to shift the bugs out at three years of age to bake bread. Do not despair, but share...🍞Sissy:
Haha..love it! 👍
probably cause 20kg is heavy AF
or if you were fancy dump the flour bags into a hoosier cabinet instead of on the counter
I just found this channel and I’m so glad i did! I love your humor that you put into your shows! You’re so knowledgeable and I’m learning so much! Thank you and keep those videos coming! 🤗
I have used DE Earth for 30 years and have some stored grain that is 30+ years old. still looks fresh and edible as I open to use it up. I use mylar and oxygen absorbers as well but in my big half gallon ball jars I use bay leaves as I can just toss those aside when I open them. Also the pump-n-seal is a great thing and can seal the ball jars with ease!
How do you use the DE to store food?
@@shortperson781 you put a teaspoon in half gallon jars of dry goods to keep it clear of bugs.
Yep, WE KETO people are like...no thanks, BUT will store bedrooms full of these Wheat Berries to sell during the famine...cause these will be worth their weight in GOLD and we'll Only take Silver and Gold for payment. GREAT Video...Info that can save the rest of My Family. Thanks Haxman & Hotwoman !
Mylar bags are the way. The buckets just protect the bags, and make stacking and moving easier.
Oh my YUCK!!! 🤢 I am totally checking for these little monsters in my backup grain! Thank you so much for sharing this info. Now Following! 😊🌱
Thanks for taking us through this sure appreciate you two
Ooh! This is an 'eat the bugs' moment! I remember one time, when I was a kid, we had our Raisin Bran cereal stored out in the garage for a long time. Granddaddy came over for a visit, and he was eating the Raisin Bran the whole time he was visiting. Mom looked at the box later on, after he had left, and she saw that boll weevils were all in it, and Granddaddy hadn't noticed and he had been eating it the whole time. I forgot all about that till just now.
I appreciate showing your failures, really helps hammer the importance of following the process
Hopefully people can learn from my mistakes so they don't make them. Thanks!
@@HAXMAN Yep. Well Done, Haxman!
You make some of the most helpful videos I have ever seen, and I started many years ago. Thank you for the information and the entertainment.
Ive been reading the comments of others and just want to say "Thank you!" to them. I am learning so much by watching your videos. Ya'll are awesome!!!!
Like Kim said, be ready for "poop hits the van". 😂
PHTF is why we're here 💪💪
Did you check her for signs of a stroke?
I think u suppose to put plastic bag Inside the bucket with oxygen absorber and bay leaves
Thank goodness we live in farming community. All too busy taking care of our own business to get involved in others. Pray that some assemblance of civility survives. Need to garage my van just in case. Don't want poop to hit it!
It's pronounced "sore gum" "soregum" but spelled sorghum. YW in advance. (I can't believe I just corrected somebody on their pronunciation. SMH)
Important: 5 Gallon pails are oxygen and moisture permeable. Even if you add CO2 and/or oxygen absorbers it can still go bad. You need a mylar, since the metalized layer is inpermeable to oxygen & moisture.
I've stored wheat berries in food grade buckets for 10 years...flour and such for 2 years.
@guytech7310
? Assuming that the mylar is resealable if bag is larger than the fill, how often would it be advisable to open, check and reprocess with dry ice, fresh desiccant, bay leaves and reseal?
Would using multiple single use mylar bags be beneficial and increase odds of non failure?
@@MPRiley-rb6lj You should need to. If you have vaccuum sealed, or added an oxygen Absorber, the bag should hold a vacuum. As long as the bag shows a vacuum inside, there is no need to mess with it.
I would not recommend double bagging.
I just recently found your channel. I love the content and you do an awesome job with your editing!!!!!!!
I LOVE your humor; it makes these informative videos all the more delightful. 😊
Good news is you can still feed the wheat berries to the chickens
I have never had a problem and all I do is add bay leaves. Have had berries for years.
Thank you so much for this video. I just received a bag of wheat berries today and I was getting ready to vacuum seal it until I saw your video. My husband just put it in the freezer. Again, thank you for making this video.
I really appreciate your videos so much. You teach so many skills and knowledge but all the comedic relief really helps my anxiety while learning prepping lol
I grow sorghum in central Texas this year. It loved the heat and is very productive even during our terrible drought this year. It was impressive.
That makes sense.. When i think of the documentaries about sub Saharan Africa they grow things like Sorghum, Millet, Teff,
Thank goodness it was just ONE bucket. I would have cried from here had the entire supply gone bad. Keep 'em coming! You know how to teach.
Just video editing/personality alone keeps me watching not to mention VERY high quality of info, thank you, I have just subbed and discovered your channel way too late.
Awesome, thank you!
Love your videos, they’re very informative and helpful. I live in the Pacific Northwest and a lot of people up here have water collection barrels to store water for summer gardening. It might not be needed as much where you are, but it would be cool to see you take a swing at it.
Appreciate you showing what can go wrong.
It’s always good to know the why behind freezing the bag for a few days and using oxygen absorbers, not just doing it because it’s “the thing to do.”
Glad you at least got a good video from that bucket!
Thanks! Yeah, I told Kim at least it made for a better video. 😂
@@HAXMAN I have to tell you that I recently heard someone say not to freeze these things and to just use the oxygen absorbers. Because freezing can add moisture and that can lead to botulism when there are moist products are stored in packaging that reduces oxygen. To use oxygen absorbers the foods need to have about 10 percent or less moisture content. Most sites do say to freeze the grains or use dry ice. But there are a few sites that say that the process needs to be done in a way that doesn't increase the moisture content. So far, I only buy things that come in pails with mylar bags already sealed because I don't really understand it well enough.
@@wishingb5859 He already said in this video at 12:25 how to deal with condensation.
@@wishingb5859 You have to leave it out for a few days, after freezing, to ensure it is dried. Then store it.
@@wishingb5859 A Wise decision!
I've been storing dry goods in #10 cans with oxygen absorbers for over 10 years. We are eating 9 year old rice now. Which is perfect like the day it was sealed. I've been wanting to try something different like vacuuming food down in food buckets with vacuum pump with oxygen absorbers than purging any additional oxygen out with nitrogen. Seal up and see what it looks like 2 years from now. I think a lot of what has to do with food longevity is the conditions we store them in also. Like cool, dark and low humidity environment..😉👍
I have a homebrew setup for easy beer. I'm thinking I can do a similar technique with the CO2 bottle I use for kegging/carbonation. The gas probably being heavy enough to displace the "air" in the 5 gal buckets I use. With fine materials like rice, it may take a little time and patience.
OMgosh, I’m so glad I stumbled upon this video. I needed your humor today! Thank you for sharing this 🙏💕
Wonderful to prepare for the days to come, as you so aptly remind us ! In India, many people store wheat, rice, etc, for a year, as a regular practice. A little bit of castor oil is taken on the palms of one's hand, and rubbed onto the seeds
/berries/wheat/rice. This will keep them fresh for years.
I believe the freezing process is 2 weeks, not 3 days. I could be wrong but I do 2 weeks on mine and all have been well. I do this for beans, rice, oats, flours, corn, wheat, etc
Newer sub, enjoy the format of the videos. I probably can't do long term storage. Taking care of octogenarian parent that takes a sharpie and writes the dates on all the groceries and is super fussy about anything that might be close to the date. She also has a habit of throwing away stuff if it's almost empty and i have a refill (condiments, bread, fruit etc). I was looking up the weevil situation and found an interesting point: if you have live weevils your grain probably doesn't have insecticides.
Good point!
Thanks for showing honest footage. Better to find out now as opposed to later.
Meal worms are an issue that can happen too, maybe not so much in 'sealed' containers, but in everyday flour use containers.
Meal worms make great chicken feed
I bought my wheat berries after I saw your first video on them. I planted them about 3 months ago. Yesterday I just found my first grown wheat berries, can't wait to try them. YESSSSS ☺️
That’s awesome!
@@HAXMAN Thank you very much for making me have good poops in the future, for when poop hits the van. My future poops thank you 💩👍🏼
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Im glad you didn't lose your whole store. I just hope you didn't cross contaminate & spread the eggs by not cleaning your hands between buckets while checking them
That's what I was thinking too.
I wondered about that as well
We have a freezer chest we store Mylar bags in. We seal up whatever dry goods with the Oxygen absorbers in the Mylar and store them right in the freezer chest. But I also have a "processing plan" in the event of a long-term grid down scenario. First meats will get canned, smoked and cured. Then any frozen veggies will get canned or dehydrated (or eaten). Then I'll worry about the flours... there's a baking process for large jars but mostly my plan is for making pastas and I keep several gallons of glassed eggs for that purpose that rotate out of my pantry. I guess the longer you prep the more learning techniques gives way to learning "systems." Planning is the key! Glad your other buckets survived the pest invasion!
Thank you!! Thank you!!! And you two are hoots! 😊Fun to watch!!
I load my buckets into my freezer. I know some people don't have that kind of room so freezing bags full works fine. I have honey bees and freeze my frames to get rid of the nasty mites and moth worms so I have it on hand. Thank you for the video family!👍🏼😘
I don't even have room for a mini frozen pizza in my freezer 😂
From what I've found, the worst possible process to use for storing survival food, or any type of food for that matter is to store it in cardboard boxes.
Wow. So much info and given in an entertaining way. Love the video.
Good information. Love your production values & self-effacing humor.
I now always stick purchased dry goods in the chest freezer for a week before putting them into long term storage. Went back and freeze-treated some older stuff I had in buckets, luckily no buggers! I bought some fresh organic flour from a local mill a few years ago, and one kind lasted several months with no issues, the other had bugs that became obvious after just 3 months and the rest had to be tossed. That was before I learned about freeze-treating though. From now on I will do that even if I am not going to store long term! This is good info!
Do you still sift out the dead ones that were killed by freezing . . . before using in cooking? I think that may be a safe thing to do. Otherwise, it would be cooking up the dead bugs and their poop.
I thought you built stuff? You have chickens? 😮what? I mean egg dispensers with feathers. Anyway you are now a homestead channel? So cool. ❤love it
Just found your channel. Made it 1:11 into it, made me laugh, you talking to yourself. I was having a horrible day until your video. Just subscribed.
Great information. I originally started looking to distract myself from my trying day and get some good info. Well, your presentation is awesome. Thank you.
Thank you! So glad to hear that. Hope your day gets better!
Got to admit, your title definitely caught my attention. Especially since I just bucketed over this past year about 400 lb of various wheat berries. I wouldn't mind seeing some more information on recipes for how else to use them besides breads and pastries.
You can use wheat berries in soups (the same way you would use barley) and wheat flour can be made into a roux (with some kind of fat) to thicken soups. Also, while I don't personally care for hot cereals, you can cook lightly ground wheat into porridge to eat like oatmeal. Wheatgrass is a thing and while I would rather sprout other things (like the beans) you can eat young wheatgrass as a green vegetable in a pinch, it is a good source of Vit C. Hope this was useful.
Spearmint gum works great for getting rid of weevils! Just throw one or two pieces in each bucket!
And then you have spearmint scented wheat berries! Yay 😁 lol ew
Kinda like when you put a banana in your lunch bag...then your sandwich smells like a banana.
No thanks! ☝️
Funny story: when my mom was a kid, she and her sister made some pancakes and they thought the black dots in the flour were just part of it. So they made and ate the food. Well the next day she heard a small scream from their mom and ran to the kitchen. Well my mom and her sister found out that, no, the black dots were not supposed to be part of it... Lol... They were weevils... But they didn't get sick so I guess it was just extra protein. 😁
You are the editing KING!!! Love your content I just found yesterday. I'll be binge watching soon...:)
Thank you Nathan
You guys got blessed on that one!
Even so, the comments cleared up quite a few other thoughts.
I myself am using the mylar bags and the diatomaceous earth..food grade.As you heat seal the bags I would have to cut the all open..that said I believe the diatomaceous earth..food grade..will do the job.
Absolutely entertaining and informative! You guys rock!❤️
Man, two things I love are learning and laughing. This channel is a gold mine for me. Thanks for all your erudition & persiflage Haxman.
So glad to hear it. 😁
I wonder how many Google searches you incited? Bravo
I'm 62, well-read, and baffled how I've never encountered "persiflage" before.
Love your comment Elsie!
@@thzzzt You have to be reading some of the very old-school Brit prose, IIRC :-).
You sir has so much GREAT! info... Ty HAXMAN for making life more simple for others!.
Thanks for the video. I was not aware this could happen. Good PSA.
I remember doing this with my parents back when I was a kid. They used the dry ice technique and it worked amazing! Those buckets of wheat, rice and oats always came out with no issues. The only thing different was the buckets we used were push on lock bucket lids that seemed to seal the air completely out, where you had a big metal tool you would use to pry the top off when you were ready to use it, instead of screw on lids so not sure if the screw on lids allow more air in or not. Sorry to see you lost some food.
Thanks for showing us better ways to avoid the issues that learned from. Much appreciated.
Your video editing is truly exceptional. I'm new to your channel & I really enjoyed your content.
Thank you so much!!
Lesser of 2 weevils. Is that a "Master and Commander" reference??? I love that movie.
If the instructions say turn the machine on first, you should do it. This prevents the motor and grinders from being damaged by trying to work while being jammed up with grain. It reduces the strain on the grinder.
I know how you feel. I lost 90 pounds of rice because 1 bag didn’t get frozen in the freezer for the few days. And it broke my heart. But anyways we have corrected the process and the one who forgot to freeze the rice bag lol. And now has all been replaced. Done correctly. Always check your supplies I rather fine out before hand so food will be okay when it’s needed. Stay safe everyone stay ready.
What kind of bugs were in rice?? Weevils or those grain moths or what?? (Hyperventilating mildly!)
Aren't Weaver's protein I'll eat them
I think RoseRed showed a video where she put in DRY ICE to kill bugs??
Just watched your 2 yr old wheat berry video and nearly freaked because you didnt use the dry ice. Worried me about the wheat berries I have stored for many years with dry ice and thought I did it wrong! Since seeing this one I m much more comfortable that those containers are still good.
Glorybee foods in Eugene Oregon sells bulk food with dispenser free, also candle making products and many other products.
In preindustrial Europe, after cutting and hauling in the ripe wheat from the field, they would first thresh the wheat (remove the seed from the straw), spread the wheat over a stone paved area and have horses run over it (to loosen the hull), separate the wheat from the chaff, then for the portion set aside for human consumption, they would build a large bonfire on the stone pavement, then spread out the embers to heat the stone, spread the wheat on the stone and keep it stirred to roast it (which probably killed off most of the insects and insects eggs) before storing it in barrels, and removed the need for grain mills and ovens. Standard Roman field rations in this period was ground roasted grain, soaked or simmered in boiled wine (safer then local water, but can't have the troops getting drunk) with grated cheese
I stored some after your original video. I did put them in the freezer, but I didn’t add any absorbers. I’ll have to check them. Thank you for the information and another great video!
I'm pretty sure I skipped the freezer by accident. You should be good. Thanks!
Let us know!
The reason you're supposed to start the mill up before grinding is to prevent grains from wedging in between the grinding tines and preventing the machine from "whirring"... it could get stuck and then you'd have to send it in for repair. I had a Whisper mill and it was fine starting it first.
Good info in your video. Had some stored provisions get infested. Cut our losses by making chicken feed with it, they loved the bugs- Never feed moldy grain, etc. to your birds, compost it.
It's "sore gum".....and on that corn, you should cook the kernels in lime water (nixtamalization) to release the nutrients for absorption; then you dry them, then grind for use.
Some of my buckets of wheat grain are in sealed Mylar bags + oxygen absorbers. Zero worries about insect infestation with this style of packaging.
Some of my wheat is just stored loosely in buckets AFTER the grain had been frozen for at least three days and then allowed to return to room temperature before being placed into buckets with tight-fitting lids. This is the wheat I intend to sprout someday. And every year I open and inspect these buckets and stir the grain to oxygenate it.
If you discover weevils/maggots are in your wheat, all it not lost. You can shift the grain using a coarse sieve to remove the weevils and maggots, then you can freeze the sieved grain to kill any remaining insect eggs or you can just put the sieved grain into Mylar bags, add oxygen absorbers and heat seal. Either way, you will have ended the infestation of that batch of grain. As long as the grain has not turned rancid, you can still use it for food.
Even if you feel squeamish about eating this sieved wheat, you could still use it to feed your chickens or grind it and make dog biscuits. If the grain has gone rancid or become moldy, mix it into your compost pile and let it rot and use the enriched compost next year in your vegetable garden. Waste not, want not.
I do something similar. Anything not expected to be used in 2 years is packaged differently than the stuff I expect to last 30 - 60 years. Those buckets will be so stale in a few years that only a dying man would want to eat any of it.
I was taught that all I needed were oxygen absorbers in a mylar bag and that would take care of the weevils. No freezing necessary. Am I missing something?
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Nope. Only vacuum-sealed thing I freeze is uncured jerky, because botulism exists. Couldn't find a curing mixture that didn't have nitrates, a carcinogen.
@@beebob1279 Depends on whether you want to be able to sprout the wheat or just grind it into flour. Use the Mylar + oxygen absorbers if you only want to grind the wheat.
I saw an article that said buckets fail sometimes, and there is no way to tell which ones are likely to fail - allowing air inside and bugs. It's probably better to put your wheat in mylar bags with a desiccant at the bottom and oxygen absorbers on top, and then seal it before closing it up in a bucket.
You guys are awesome 👌 very entertaining but also extremely informative. Got a new subscriber 👍
we drop the bag in the chest freezer for a couple days then use co2, oxygen absorbers and silica to reduce humidity. the weevil's eggs are already in the grain. the right temp and humidity and they will hatch. love your content.
Silica should not be combined with oxygen absorbers, except a very few applications. Moisture is not the issue. Oxygen is. Just oxygen absorbers should be fine.
15 minutes in a preheated oven at 200°C / 400°F. Careful to not recontaminate the sterilized batches.
The editing/effects on this one is on point - nice job. Also, thanks for the content - really appreciate how you present it.
Thank you Jason!
I appreciate the Weevil Knieval pun😂
I would disagree, I almost stopped watching.. Skipped around to the important parts..
I’ve just discovered your channel and I love it! You two are so cute together, and the info you share is really helpful. You even try to make the advertisement better :)
Hey hay Mr Haxman. Fun video. Couple tidbits. Fresh ground grains are alkaline foods whereas store bought flours are acidic.
We've used the same type of buckets you have there and have notice a problem that occurs from shipping. When they are stacked, the webbing from the upper bucket can get jammed into the sealing lip of the lower bucket, causing some deformation. Sometimes this will prevent the bucket from properly sealing even though there is a gasket.
Grains are a living organism, they transpire constantly. Meaning they consume oxygen and gas out CO2 sufficiently enough to kill insects and or mold growth without the addition of CO2 or oxygen packs.
Been doing this for years. Currently, we use 275 gallon IBC totes for grain storage.
The only thing we add CO2 to is whole peanuts, because of the free air space due to shells.
Peace!
I use Diatomaceous Earth, Bay Leaves, and cayenne pepper in my buckets before adding food in mylar bags with oxygen absorbers. I read a comment from someone awhile back that rodents hate cayenne pepper and he used it all the time camping around his perimeter.
Use mylar bags with the buckets. When I added Mylar to the preservation process, I haven't had problems with weevils.
I vacuum seal the mylar to remove as much oxygen as possible.
Yikes! I had saved two 5 gallon buckets with wheat berries 6 months ago. Did not know about freezing anything! I will go check today and add food grade diatomaceous earth and bay leaves! I live in the tropics and we have lots of bugs! 😮 Thanks for this video!
😂 the bucket with what I can only assume is the ‘haxman variety weevil’ 🤣
I love your work mate!