Thanks for sharing, Joel. I also had a hard time finding info. Couldn't get the rounded head perfected on my own. Took a little practice, but your technique certainly delivered. Thanks again.
Nice, very simplistic do it at home without all the cash spemt on molds or hours making silicone or plaster mold. You think if you used long needles or a very small metal rod you could make your basic trout worms?
I like to inject catfish bait (use an empty cauik tube/gun), woorks great to keep bait from washing off of the hook, slows release of bait so it can set longer in the water...just a thought...
You started with a 4 cup pyrex then moved to a 2 cup? How many tube jigs can you make with 4 cups? Being that it is so hot, can you just pour it into the "cold" pyrex? Do you need to do anything to heat it up so it does not shatter or anything?
How does your plastic stay hot for so long? Maybe just because of the amount in the cup? I've just started doing hand pouring a few swimbaits and it seems like I would have had to reheat that several times in that amount of time but maybe mine hardens faster because im only doing very small 1/2 cup batches?
Where do you buy your plastisol and plastic coloring ? I’m trying to start making my own baits but idk what to buy or where to buy it from can you help a brother out ?
Nice!!! Whats your process for doing the split/two color tubes btw? I'm referring to the horizontal side-profile color split rather than the vertical (head/tail) color split btw.
I don't do them, but you can dip horizontally using two pans with different colors of plastic in them to get a two color tube. But the easiest, most consistant way would be injection molds with a dual injector.
Nice video. I tried this recently and I had 8 rods and mine were very stringy after the first dip. I think I might need to let them drip longer before turning them over.
Jpeace530 I haven't tried this yet but I don't see why it wouldn't work... You could dip a chartreuse tube same as shown in this video, cut away the top half of the tube, remove it from the rod leaving just the tail section and re-dip the head in the second color.
To make a different color tail just dip the tube in whatever color tail you want first...Once, maybe twice. Then dip the tube in whatever color you want the head to be but only about halfway down. Don't dip the tube all the way down in the plastic. Do it that way once or maybe even twice. When you split the tail with your splitter do it where the colors divide.
Jahred Klahre yes, plastic can be remelted and reused. Raw plastic needs to be cooked to about 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Once cooked it can be be maintained as low as about 285 degrees.I usually keep it a bit over 300.
Jahred Klahre I have another video going over some of the different products I use I believe color and was included. I don't use salt but you can. I use scented worm oil after packaging.
Lot of places online to buy plastisol. Do a google search for soft plastic bait making materials and you will find lots of info. Colors will come with experience and trial and error. But the basics are pretty simple. Blue+Yellow=Green Red+Blue=Purple Yellow+Red=Orange
I have tried it with wood dowels. There are a couple issues with wood. The plastic sticks to the wood making it difficult to get the plastic off even if worm oil is added. Also wood holds heat and it takes spot longer for the plastic to set up compared to steel or aluminum rods.
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 awesome thanks for the reply man, I'm going to try to make some 7 or 8in jigs let's hope I don't mess up lol I wonder if I paint the dowel first with some high temp paint maybe it won't stick as bad
Hi! Well, just like you, I myself am interested in making jig skirts. Since like you said, there isn't any information on how are what to start with. Maybe you need to create a video with what is needed to start, and go through the steps on how to then. Start with products needed, then steps to go through from start to finsih.
PGH Custom Baits I have added salt in the past to injected baits. Salt will settle in your container over a period of time. It can work when dipping, but you have to constantly stir the plastic to keep the salt suspended. I personally don't believe its worth the effort as salt doesn't add any real attraction to a bait imo. It will add weight, but it also weakens the plastic and clouds the colour.
I'm making my own molds. All single cavity. I am getting a void in the end feet of one of my frog molds.Any suggestions on what and how I can fix this issue. Should I increase the size of the air ports? It's just ending early and not completing the structure of the foot. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't had this issue with any other molds I have made. Thanks again.
Thanks Joel. Did a little modification to the main mold and opened up the air vents with a tiny drill bit(used like a file). It worked great. Thanks for the reply.
How long do you wait after you take out from microwave before u start dippin. My buddy gave me plastic to price with. But im making smller tubes for trout
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 not in my case. Cuz it just slides off. Feel me. Like its all watery still. Thats why im asking. Bro. An whether its a thinner or thicker rod. Shouldnt matter ya know. It should atill thick. An what if you dont have worm oil ro oil the rods. What else can u use??
@@NateAndSons91 only problem im having now is i cant get em to round out from the tips man. I try an try an just cant get it. An yiu make it look simple
gary Flood I've been buying my plastic, Which was manufactured by Calhoune (check spelling), from Baitjunkys. I don't think they are selling plastic anymore but another group called baitplastic (I think) is selling the same stuff. If you are cooking in a microwave you can get bubbles in you plastic. If your cooking on a stove top or Presto pot you will be less likely to develop air bubbles. Make sure when you're ordering your plastic you get it degassed. This will limit the air bubbles as well.
Just found this. Thanks for sharing. Especially appreciate the example of the bad scenarios
Never knew you could make tubes…EXCELLENT!!!
Nice job. Thank you for sharing the info. Tubes have been my favorite plastic for Many years.
Enjoyed your video. You mentioned you have a second video showing how you cut the tails. I couldn't find it. Would love to see it.
Thanks for sharing, Joel. I also had a hard time finding info. Couldn't get the rounded head perfected on my own. Took a little practice, but your technique certainly delivered. Thanks again.
Jeremy Conley I'm happy it helped!
Very good information i learn a lot from your prior videos thanks
Learned a ton from this video, thank you
Kind stuff he use
Great video. Just what I was looking for
Perfect video, thank you very much!
Great video!
Great video!! Thank you
A company made a tube bait that was ribed on the inside i guess they used threaded rods but it made the bait feel alive
Great Video and Information
Thanks for the info
i guess this would be the best place to start bait making ?!
since you only need the strict minimum. could be good way to learn the basics.
Nice, very simplistic do it at home without all the cash spemt on molds or hours making silicone or plaster mold. You think if you used long needles or a very small metal rod you could make your basic trout worms?
Awesome video!! What's the color your dipping??
I like to inject catfish bait (use an empty cauik tube/gun), woorks great to keep bait from washing off of the hook, slows release of bait so it can set longer in the water...just a thought...
You started with a 4 cup pyrex then moved to a 2 cup? How many tube jigs can you make with 4 cups? Being that it is so hot, can you just pour it into the "cold" pyrex? Do you need to do anything to heat it up so it does not shatter or anything?
Thanks for sharing
Glad it was helpful!
How does your plastic stay hot for so long? Maybe just because of the amount in the cup? I've just started doing hand pouring a few swimbaits and it seems like I would have had to reheat that several times in that amount of time but maybe mine hardens faster because im only doing very small 1/2 cup batches?
Where do you buy your plastisol and plastic coloring ? I’m trying to start making my own baits but idk what to buy or where to buy it from can you help a brother out ?
Nice!!! Whats your process for doing the split/two color tubes btw? I'm referring to the horizontal side-profile color split rather than the vertical (head/tail) color split btw.
I don't do them, but you can dip horizontally using two pans with different colors of plastic in them to get a two color tube. But the easiest, most consistant way would be injection molds with a dual injector.
Do you use worm oil on your rods or anything like that?
Where can I get the rods at?
Nice video. I tried this recently and I had 8 rods and mine were very stringy after the first dip. I think I might need to let them drip longer before turning them over.
Steve Buck it may take a few tries before you get your timing down.
Steve Buck where did you get your rods from
Nice video! How would you go about making them with a chartreuse tail?
Jpeace530 I haven't tried this yet but I don't see why it wouldn't work...
You could dip a chartreuse tube same as shown in this video, cut away the top half of the tube, remove it from the rod leaving just the tail section and re-dip the head in the second color.
Oh ok I got ya. Thanks for the videos. I’ve learned a lot from you!
Where did you get the tube rods?
Bad ass video
Gustavo Maciel I cut them out of the frame from an umbrella net. But you can go to a hardware store and buy steel rods in various diameters
To make a different color tail just dip the tube in whatever color tail you want first...Once, maybe twice. Then dip the tube in whatever color you want the head to be but only about halfway down. Don't dip the tube all the way down in the plastic. Do it that way once or maybe even twice. When you split the tail with your splitter do it where the colors divide.
Do you round off the rod head? Like a round ball shape?
Gravity rounds off the head. As you control how the hot plastic flow by flipping the block up and down a round shaped head is formed
Hey Joel, do you oil the rods first?
Yes. I use worm oil. Cooking spray should also work.
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 Thanks very much brother.
The batch that you intentionally ruined... can you melt those back down and try again later? What temperature are you heating the plastic to?
Jahred Klahre yes, plastic can be remelted and reused. Raw plastic needs to be cooked to about 350 degrees Fahrenheit. Once cooked it can be be maintained as low as about 285 degrees.I usually keep it a bit over 300.
Average Joel's Fishing awesome! Any recommendations on coloring/dye you utilize? And once you’ve finished and cut them, do you add salt?
Jahred Klahre I have another video going over some of the different products I use I believe color and was included.
I don't use salt but you can. I use scented worm oil after packaging.
were do I get the plastic and how do I know what to mix for certain colors
Lot of places online to buy plastisol. Do a google search for soft plastic bait making materials and you will find lots of info.
Colors will come with experience and trial and error. But the basics are pretty simple.
Blue+Yellow=Green
Red+Blue=Purple
Yellow+Red=Orange
I know this is an old vid but I'm curious if you have used this method with wood dowels?
I have tried it with wood dowels. There are a couple issues with wood. The plastic sticks to the wood making it difficult to get the plastic off even if worm oil is added. Also wood holds heat and it takes spot longer for the plastic to set up compared to steel or aluminum rods.
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 awesome thanks for the reply man, I'm going to try to make some 7 or 8in jigs let's hope I don't mess up lol I wonder if I paint the dowel first with some high temp paint maybe it won't stick as bad
@@musicislife6802 give it a try. Let me know how it works!
Hi! Well, just like you, I myself am interested in making jig skirts. Since like you said, there isn't any information on how are what to start with. Maybe you need to create a video with what is needed to start, and go through the steps on how to then. Start with products needed, then steps to go through from start to finsih.
Can this method be used for crappie tubes?
Yes. You can use finishing nails as dipping rods
Have you tried adding salt to your plastic. Does it work with dipping. Or only injection shoots
PGH Custom Baits I have added salt in the past to injected baits. Salt will settle in your container over a period of time. It can work when dipping, but you have to constantly stir the plastic to keep the salt suspended. I personally don't believe its worth the effort as salt doesn't add any real attraction to a bait imo. It will add weight, but it also weakens the plastic and clouds the colour.
What’s the diameter off those rods 1/4 or 5/16” ? Thanks
I think they were 1/4"
What plastisol blend you use
Mostly Calhoun these days
How big are ur rods
I've got multiple sizes. But 1/4 inch is a good starting point
Where did you get your rods?
You can buy aluminum or steel rods from Home Depot or Lowe's. Get the diameter you want and cut to length
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 ok thanks
I'm making my own molds. All single cavity. I am getting a void in the end feet of one of my frog molds.Any suggestions on what and how I can fix this issue. Should I increase the size of the air ports? It's just ending early and not completing the structure of the foot. Any suggestions would be appreciated. I haven't had this issue with any other molds I have made. Thanks again.
Ed Kelly larger air vents would be a good place to start. I'm not a mold maker though.
Thanks Joel. Did a little modification to the main mold and opened up the air vents with a tiny drill bit(used like a file). It worked great. Thanks for the reply.
How long do you wait after you take out from microwave before u start dippin. My buddy gave me plastic to price with. But im making smller tubes for trout
You can start dipping right away.
@@theeverydayfisherman3905 not in my case. Cuz it just slides off. Feel me. Like its all watery still. Thats why im asking. Bro. An whether its a thinner or thicker rod. Shouldnt matter ya know. It should atill thick. An what if you dont have worm oil ro oil the rods. What else can u use??
@@trout_spankn_dominoeacosta6914 vegetables oil ... not joking plenty of guys on here use it cause it’s cheaper and does the exact same thing
@@NateAndSons91 only problem im having now is i cant get em to round out from the tips man. I try an try an just cant get it. An yiu make it look simple
What plastasol do you use and do you have problems with air bubbles I am getting air in my hot plastic I'm new to this can you help thanks
gary Flood I've been buying my plastic, Which was manufactured by Calhoune (check spelling), from Baitjunkys. I don't think they are selling plastic anymore but another group called baitplastic (I think) is selling the same stuff. If you are cooking in a microwave you can get bubbles in you plastic. If your cooking on a stove top or Presto pot you will be less likely to develop air bubbles. Make sure when you're ordering your plastic you get it degassed. This will limit the air bubbles as well.
Average Joel's Fishing thanks
Where can I find the rods at?
I got them from Lowe's or Home Depot and cut them to size
Did they come tapered or did you taper them yourself?
@@NateAndSons91 I shaped them on the grinder