I would love to own an architectural salvage company in a city like Detroit. People don't realize that much of the surviving wood in those houses is good quality and hard to find today. I ran into a retired gentleman years ago who made Wonderful furnishings and did restoration work with it.
That's a good summary of the situation in Detroit, and why they're in the position they're in.... I lived in Detroit for about 5 years back in the late 60's-early 70's and, even with the racial problems, no one would ever see this coming, down the road. I continue to be amazed by the magnitude.
Paul Ayers I can answer all those questions you just asked. First off it is clear to see that you enjoy sounding smart and listing off facts and terms that most people would not have a clue about. Second, asbestos does not have to be capitalized. On to your questions about expediting demolitions. You may have worked as an operator, as well as a licensed asbestos worker. However, there is a lot more that goes on before a demolition even starts. After agreeing to complete a demolition, the contractor then goes through the application process for a wrecking permit through the city government. The permit requires information about the house such as when it was built, the square footage, height, how many stories... The permit also contains sign offs that you are required to get from service and utility companies as well as a couple government agencies, ensuring that the services are not running to that address. These would include the Water Company, Metropolitan Sewer District, AT&T or similar (phone landline). The government agencies would be Air Pollution Control District and the Historical Society. In order to start demolition an Air Pollution Permit is also required, this is obtained after a full asbestos survey is completed and an Air Monitoring test has been completed. All the debris including any asbestos containing material is torn down together while using the appropriate wetting and dust control methods (So recycling or reusing the contaminated debris does not happen). All the information I just explained is for ONE house, not sure how this would be expediting demolitions. However, the city planner or contractor could apply for permits of multiple properties which are why there is a big grouping of demolitions happening. Generally, depending on size, these small shotgun style houses take 1 or 2 days to tear down and remove all the waste. And another day to fill in the hole, seed, and straw the property. I do not live or work in Detroit so I'm not sure on exact process specifics, but it is a general idea.
Can they hang the yellow banner at the entrance of the city and tell the neighboring cities to keep their children and their dogs inside. Then when the dust settles just leave...
Given the scale of the problem why doesn't Detroit directly employ its own demolition team thus avoiding having to put it out for tender and doing it at cost ?
They don't have their own demolition crew, no city does. This is also far cheaper than paying a city crew to do it considering I've never met a city crew that actually got the job done on time. The city takes the lowest bids and run with that, the bid prices cannot be beat by the city ever.
in the video I seen insulation falling from the ceiling.. and can a residence be complete abatement within a week.. and the analytical methods used as Asbestos was used extensively in many homes across America.. heat duct wrapping, zonalite Asbestos insulation.. even in old wiring..vinyl flooring.. transite Asbestos siding..so I have a few questions regarding the expediting demolitions and accurately doing the Asbestos assessment and bulk samples of ACM samples and then the necessary TEM Asbestos air samples to clear for demolition of the homes.. what about recycling all the lumber to build new homes..I know that it is Faster to demolition that to take apart and salvage the lumber, wiring..copper wiring.. piping.. I have been on both sides here..being the Excavator Operator doing the demolition and also as a Asbestos Abatement Technician and Hazardous Materials Supervisor with Industrial Hygienist Training... So I do question...?
It can which is why they tell everyone to stay in doors. But wetting down the structures before and during the demo process it cuts the dust down by 80%.
"Detroit demo done right" is a video put up by the city of Detroit on their own TH-cam channel...as a health and safety rep I can tell you that water does abate dust at the moment of demolition but as soon as the slurry of water and hazardous dust particles dries up any external forces acting on the dried up dust will make it airborne again but at this point due diligence by the city and contractors has been met and further consequences to human health go ignored. The proper removal of hazardous materials before demolition is the only option to protect human health from exposure to large quantities of hazardous airborne particles.
i have always hated those houses that are so close together their roofs almost touch that is 3rd world poverty when a builder developer is so greedy that all of the houses are shoulder to shoulder and back to back with each other and no parks poor planning this is a recipe for disaster on a city wide scale an F5 tornado would be better than a greedy developer he does not care his only interest is getting rich and richer to live in his multi million dollar mansion and his employees are just barely making a living
I would love to own an architectural salvage company in a city like Detroit.
People don't realize that much of the surviving wood in those houses is good quality and hard to find today.
I ran into a retired gentleman years ago who made Wonderful furnishings and did restoration work with it.
That's a good summary of the situation in Detroit, and why they're in the position they're in.... I lived in Detroit for about 5 years back in the late 60's-early 70's and, even with the racial problems, no one would ever see this coming, down the road. I continue to be amazed by the magnitude.
That is really a good segment. I learned a lot and it was fun to see the city doing a good job.
Detroit has done a great job with this and the city looks magnificent with the natural open spaces.
Do they also remove basement or just fill it in?
That’s awesome Detroit. Great work.
Paul Ayers
I can answer all those questions you just asked. First off it is clear to see that you enjoy sounding smart and listing off facts and terms that most people would not have a clue about. Second, asbestos does not have to be capitalized.
On to your questions about expediting demolitions. You may have worked as an operator, as well as a licensed asbestos worker. However, there is a lot more that goes on before a demolition even starts. After agreeing to complete a demolition, the contractor then goes through the application process for a wrecking permit through the city government. The permit requires information about the house such as when it was built, the square footage, height, how many stories... The permit also contains sign offs that you are required to get from service and utility companies as well as a couple government agencies, ensuring that the services are not running to that address. These would include the Water Company, Metropolitan Sewer District, AT&T or similar (phone landline). The government agencies would be Air Pollution Control District and the Historical Society.
In order to start demolition an Air Pollution Permit is also required, this is obtained after a full asbestos survey is completed and an Air Monitoring test has been completed. All the debris including any asbestos containing material is torn down together while using the appropriate wetting and dust control methods (So recycling or reusing the contaminated debris does not happen).
All the information I just explained is for ONE house, not sure how this would be expediting demolitions. However, the city planner or contractor could apply for permits of multiple properties which are why there is a big grouping of demolitions happening.
Generally, depending on size, these small shotgun style houses take 1 or 2 days to tear down and remove all the waste. And another day to fill in the hole, seed, and straw the property.
I do not live or work in Detroit so I'm not sure on exact process specifics, but it is a general idea.
I been a genus since I was 11.
As sad as it is to see these abandoned places do need to go. There is nothing safe about keeping them up.
You know Detroit is bad when people stealing medal rods that are worth 10 dollars at the nearest walmart.
Detroit on the move you go Detroit glade to see the progress
Great to see this! Detroit needs more people with these types of ideas.
First time is see something positive about this city on TH-cam. Even though it’s about cleaning up shit.
I think the abandoned houses look much better than empty fields of weeds uncut grass
Only cost Detroit $25,000 a house to demo haha
@Robert Gardea only thing stopping them is the fact that people do it before them, which is actually one of the reasons the homes are demolished
exactly. cost too much for demo this thing. If we import Chinese to do it, it may cost only $2500.
Can they hang the yellow banner at the entrance of the city and tell the neighboring cities to keep their children and their dogs inside. Then when the dust settles just leave...
Efficiency and Safety and make it look great 👍🏼
Still waiting 2 years and counting. Other than that good update. Just hearing about is not enough we need action all over the City.
Given the scale of the problem why doesn't Detroit directly employ its own demolition team thus avoiding having to put it out for tender and doing it at cost ?
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They don't have their own demolition crew, no city does. This is also far cheaper than paying a city crew to do it considering I've never met a city crew that actually got the job done on time. The city takes the lowest bids and run with that, the bid prices cannot be beat by the city ever.
@@jordanl5628 Have you ever worked in any government agency?
What happens when the government get 's involved...
Good job!
in the video I seen insulation falling from the ceiling.. and can a residence be complete abatement within a week..
and the analytical methods used as Asbestos was used extensively in many homes across America.. heat duct wrapping, zonalite Asbestos insulation.. even in old wiring..vinyl flooring.. transite Asbestos siding..so I have a few questions regarding the expediting demolitions and accurately doing the Asbestos assessment and bulk samples of ACM samples and then the necessary TEM Asbestos air samples to clear for demolition of the homes..
what about recycling all the lumber to build new homes..I know that it is Faster to demolition that to take apart and salvage the lumber, wiring..copper wiring.. piping..
I have been on both sides here..being the Excavator Operator doing the demolition and also as a Asbestos Abatement Technician and Hazardous Materials Supervisor with Industrial Hygienist Training...
So I do question...?
Wet dust can't fly
It can which is why they tell everyone to stay in doors. But wetting down the structures before and during the demo process it cuts the dust down by 80%.
Interesting.
"Detroit demo done right" is a video put up by the city of Detroit on their own TH-cam channel...as a health and safety rep I can tell you that water does abate dust at the moment of demolition but as soon as the slurry of water and hazardous dust particles dries up any external forces acting on the dried up dust will make it airborne again but at this point due diligence by the city and contractors has been met and further consequences to human health go ignored. The proper removal of hazardous materials before demolition is the only option to protect human health from exposure to large quantities of hazardous airborne particles.
Seen
Where is your mask?
i have always hated those houses that are so close together their roofs almost touch that is 3rd world poverty when a builder developer is so greedy
that all of the houses are shoulder to shoulder and back to back with each other and no parks poor planning this is a recipe for disaster on a city wide
scale an F5 tornado would be better than a greedy developer he does not care his only interest is getting rich and richer to live in his multi million dollar
mansion and his employees are just barely making a living
What a dead city! I would not build anything their again!