Hey WOBO I've heard rumors about how epi pens or maybe codeine pills cam be popped before pushing a 1 on 1 gunfight for extra shock resistance was wondering if you could test it thanks love what you do! ❤
I agree that it makes it really good, but the stats of the DMR now make it WAY better in eyes. Wrongfully so imo. Idk how I feel abt the changes and whether they r good or bad. I’ll have to see when I play and get a feel for the gun to see if it’s too strong or not.
@@conro7003it's bad. I know dayz isn't exactly a milsim but they are clearly trying to go for at least somewhat realistic gunplay. Yes, the m14 is better for combat IRL than bolt actions but that has about 99% to do with mag capacity and fire rate. There is a reason snipers usually still use bolt actions. They're more accurate and if anything, should deal more in game damage than the M14 since less energy is lost after firing every round. What I mean is that there is literally no reason to choose the Tundra or any other rifle over the M14 now apart from the scope- which is more of an experience thing. That makes the game a bit dull. If they're gonna add things like the M14 and make it OP, that's fine as long as they add in other DMRs and make kind of like another tier of guns that would put all bolt actions in a tier below. It doesn't make sense to me in any way how the M14 could be the best gun by far in a game that has the SVD, M4, AK74, AK101 and the FN FAL. No one would pick an m14 for 500m+ ranges IRL and no one would pick it over an M4 in a CQB situation (unless for nostalgia reasons).
@@footingball5566smithing thing that doesn’t make sense to me is that the FAL and M14 are chambered in the same round and they carry almost the same exact energy irl. So for them to buff the m14 doesn’t make too much sense imo
@@andreww8213 Yeah IMO, it should be based on real ballistics just like the rest of the game. The same caliber from a given barrel length should have the exact same result down range. Of course they could balance it so bolt actions are viable aswell but if the semiauto gun from a given caliber does singificantly better than all its counterparts, I'd say should balance it. I personally think a lot of thr gunplay in Dayz could use some reworking. For example, I think the M4 should have a lower fire rate and I think most guns should have less flash and smoke or at least some sort of long lasting flash hider. I know it's part a skill issue but I find it way harder to control the recoil than other shooters with "realistic" gunplay such as Arma and insurgency sandstorm. The recoil does too much spontaneous jumps sideways but even when I manage the recoil (and I have been getting better and hitting my 30-50m beams) I still find it hard to even see what you're shooting at sometimes because of the enormoud cloud infront of the gun. Long rant but all in all I think some guns definitely can be OP if they are in real life (like the M4 being pretty much the perfect assault rifle) but it should be based on reality. Battle rifles/ DMRs should be better than bolt actions at medium to long range and bolt actions should be better at long range.
Well they used to be more realistic.. until about 3 years ago when updates became more frequent… The game felt real back then, not it’s kind of turning into call of duty… .380 does shit damage.. 9 mm does shit damage.. 22 does shit damage. 357 is a joke now… I could go on…
@@jeffheyer7783 .357 instantly dropping unarmored players is a joke? Only two shots to KO a plate wearer? Videogame-wise thats very strong. 9mm also has a fair position now. 2 shots to KO unarmored people. The third bullet kills. That. SEEMS fairly realistic and strong to me. It is a bit too strong though on armor: 4 9mm on a plate vest KOs you? I think you should be close to immune to 9mm with a plate for realism reasons, I could be wrong though. I do think that 380 and .22 should kill in one shot (slowly) if you are hit in the vittals. They had organ-hitboxes years ago which were scrapped.
@@Left4Plamz that’s def not how 357 works now… I’ll shoot in armored players twice in chest with 357 and they run away. I have so many videos showing this kind of shit.
I’ve been playing this game on console since 2019.. and the damage is all fucked up now. Is shot someone with the SG rifle in the chest and it didn’t even knock I guy out
It’s a DMR which means like at a max 500m. This is a big big facepalm. Though I think I know what their aim was, more than likely they want to hype the new gun as much as possible. Or maybe they just flip coins on everything 😂
@@alexanderbielski9327 If you weren’t tracking DMR stands for “designated marksman rifle” I don’t think 500m is unreasonable for a rifle designed for longer range engagements. That being said they should also buff the other long range rifles in general
most standard DMR's can go from medium to medium-long range, sniper rifles are designated for long ranger exclusively, the DMR in this case is designed; in the real world, exclusively for medium range engagements. @@Thethrongle
I'll say this. When the DMR was added onto my faction wars server, it changed everything. The last time something like this has happened was when the GL was added. Now, the DMR is the standardized rifle for both teams and it's insane. I got around ten guys to fire at a convoy with this thing... The noise made me think I was going death. It was insane and fun, and DayZ is so awesome
I’d also consider how the VSD does have an option for a suppressor, where as the DMR the best you got is the bottle suppressor I also think tho the DMR has better options for attachments but either way they are both beasts in their own right
the fact that the dmr does more dmg than the bolt actions that use the same ammo seems like a bug to me, every other automatic weapon has less damage than bolt actions in the same caliber. if this is intended, im gonna loose faith in the devs
I swear they hired someone from PUBG's balancing department, these recent changes are godawful. All automatic rifles underperform significantly in terms of bullet velocity. 40% bullet velocity difference between the FAL and DMR?! This game is turning into a joke.
@@packwolf445 they seem to think that having to engaging in fixing items constantly is good gameplay or something. Dont get me wrong items should degrade but right now its turned up to 11. Honestly it feels like they have simplified alot of things also like clothing and how its balanced, more clothing items used to be unique and have special sizes like the rider jackets inventory being only big enough for a sawn off shotgun or realism the gorka suit being both waterproof and warm not just water proof . This plus weapon changes is making dayz feel like a generic survival game clone now its losing its realism and being simplified
@deltaforce2780 let's jot forget, for some reason an M4 starts to break after 120 rounds, and suppressors have such low durability that a single fight can leave them ruined
Mosin should be the most powerful weapon in dqyz... 7.62x54r is alot more powerful then a .308... ontop of this semi automatic firearms use barrel pressures to cycle a new round which lowers the velocity of the bullet
You can farm the SVD from Rify now without risking much or having to travel far at all, I have gotten an SVD 2 times out of 4 runs I did this update, although i suspect it isn't that common and I was just getting lucky.
Was this low pop server??? I’ve been to Rify a couple times and have never found an M4 there, or anything really.. I found a VSS and sval at pavlovo but that’s it
@USERWASBANNED I don't think making the 20 round semi more powerful has anything to do with balancing. Usually, making something that is already super powerful even better does the opposite of balancing, it makes something overpowered
These buffs are too strong the dmr is very easy to find currently, it's almost always in my loadout now. No single gun should be that much stronger than the rest while being so "common".
What do you mean by common? Unless if you're talking about boosted loot servers, vanilla servers have the dmrs practically impossible to find unless you go into tier 4 loot zones that are gas zones. And before you start getting all keyboard warrior mode, all I'm asking is what do you mean by common, because it's hard as hell to find it even in some boosted servers.
@@Le_MikeYou find it at helicopters and convoys not static gas zones, I've also had incredible luck finding it with friends first helicopter we went to after wipe and now have 4-5 of them.
Dayz devs don’t understand barrel lengths. Longer guns like the SVD/tundra would have higher velocity and would hit harder. The dmr is a battle rifle. So it should not be doing that
They used to work off of that, now I think that they took tge people who did that and dragged them to the arma series, and hired devs from more arcade-y backgrounds
@@packwolf445exactly. Pretty sure all of their knowledgeable devs are working on Arma Reforger and Arma 4 and I’m really glad that’s the case. Fuck DayZ and Vigor.
This doesn’t even make sense the SVD should be the most powerful, longest barrel length, bigger round, etc.. also why don’t the Russian weapons have a 6x optic?
I suspect they made the DMR stronger because it can't attach a suppressor. I really love realistic stats on guns like what you are mentioning, I wish they would use IRL statistics :)
i took on a dmr with an as val loaded with a full magazine of AP, and a ballistic vest. this dude had a hoodie on, and was dying of a cold and I barely survived, after being knocked unconscious and him dying while I was asleep. this new gun is very powerful.
Bohemia has completely lost the plot. The chambering of a firearm should determine its ballistics, not arbitrary game balance concerns. Any difference between the M14 and similar firearms in 7.62/.308 should be minute differences in velocity due to differing barrel lengths. i haven't played this game for ages, and if this is the direction they are truly going in, i doubt i ever will again.
Seriously, bring back some realistic gun ballistics to this game. That's what drew me to Dayz in the first place. Ever since Brian Hicks left. they have been slowly messing around with the gun play of this game. and it is slowly turning into another bullet sponge, lame shooter
And I still think the SVD is slightly ahead, it'll take a good assortment of scopes and optics, the ammunition is typically easier to come across, and the best thing over the DMR, it'll take a legit suppressor instead of that 2 shot, all zombles react to, bottle suppressor. They should probably adjust either the SVD spawns to match, or better yet, reduce the DMR spawn rate to match the SVD... along with bringing them closer together for damage, range, bullet speed, shock ECT..... and I still think we need at least one military precision sniper instead of marksman rifles and an ancient 1800s Mosin with a great, but still subpar optic compared to the PE or PEM optic instead (along side) the PU.
Yes precision snipers are cool. I remember M24 from DayZ Mod 2012. I would also like MGs, RPGs and Anti-Material rifles :) (Veery rare and with realistic drawbacks)
@@Left4Plamzyeah we're already missing, meaning either were in the game (still) or game files, quite a few firearms, but we were supposed to get both the M249 and the PKM LMGs, and we had previously in DayZ (Mod) the M24, Lee Enfield, M14 proper, M40A3, LRR .338 Lapua, and CZ550 in 9.3 Mauser (along with the later AS50 and M107, and then many other melee, firearms, and non-lethal weapons from DayZ SA itself, the SA weapons alone we're missing over 20, not including the above listed DayZ Mod infamous firearms). We absolutely need a legit, long range, precision military rifle(could be split into furniture/receiver/barrel and spawn rare for the work to get one running and to only have 1 or 2 or something on the map at a given time), also the LMGs which we're still missing listed above, and not even including some of the infamous LMGs from DayZ Mod like my baby, the M240 in .308....but at least those 2 LMGs, the M249 and PKM which were either in the game already (DayZ SA) and never officially given, or promised to get....but those also should be rare like above, and would need to be sourced from far away places that need a boat or helicopter to get to.... like our promised addition of Utes Island Military Compound to be added to the far south sea miles off the coast of Skalisty Island like we were literally told we would be getting "in the upcoming patch", which was literally over 5yrs ago and never, never was actually added like they said AND SHOWN. Imagine having the sea water colder than usual, not being able to swim at all past Skalisty without dying, and having our promised helicopter (or Bumblebee airplane) finally added, having it's necessary parts scattered around the map miles away from where one would spawn, having to source all the parts, make your way to fix up either of those 2 Arial vehicles, fighting off other players who are trying to do the same, and then flying it to Utes Island and being able to find either an M249, PKM, M24, M40A3, LRR ECT, and then having to find parts or specific parts to the weapons again, elsewhere on the map....it would give us some "end game goals", get people moving around the map, bring back the old hair raising fights over the helicopter or plane.... I mean, it's at least SOMETHING "end game" related, not like we're ever going to see a new base building update with new base building pieces that actually work, a code lock, or a balanced method of building bases VS raiding bases. 🙄
This is one of the biggest reasons why I quit playing. First it was medieval clothing and swords... and now they're portraying an automatic M14 damage/speed to exceed a bolt action Model 70. They're ruining the immersion of the game, and any semblance of reality (as if the glitches weren't doing a fine job of that already). All this, and still no P90... which would've been a far better +1, in my book... but maybe not, since they're now into making up magical ballistics profiles 🤦♂️
AP rounds are suposed to be the buff to that gun as they ignore a plate carrier protection. What i usually do is to load AP rounds in 20 rounds mags and normal rounds in 10 rounders, so i kill zeds with normal mags and if i'm about to engange just switch mags. Also consider this gun to be an SMG with spotting capabilities instead of a sniper rifle
I was literally just thinking about this, maybe they should give it a 30rnd mag and the sound of its gunshots shouldn't attract zombies(if it isnt already like this).
Convoys should be moved off the coast entirely along with trains. And the DMr should be in the static GAS zones and the svd should be put back at helicopter crashes and convoys. That would make a lovely balance or at least one to TEST out!!!!
I'm on ps5. Had the DMR for 3 days now and can't find a magazine for it. I've been to Tisy, helicopter crashes, convoys over and over. I have found so many LAR mags it makes me sick! Thanks for the vid Wobo
Really? I swear I’m always finding Atleast 10 round magazines for it around all types of military. Try looking at wrecked hummers or switch to Livonia for a loot run
@dxlta8810 Thanks. Soon after my post I found a mountain backpack at Tisy with two 20 rnd mags in it! I think a noob dropped it for a military pack and forgot to transfer all the loot!
I see arguments in the comment section about ballistics and effective range. My 2 cents are- shut up about it…because shooting 0MOA accuracy (0 dispersion) would make our survivor the best shot in the history of firearms. I like the way it is right now…don’t have to worry about if it’s you or if it’s the wind/altitude/humidity/any of that. Or maybe it was just a cold bore shot…
Not sure how I feel about these changes. Will need to get my hands in one and actually play w it to form a good or bad impression on whether it’s too strong or not.
All bullets should do the same damage regardless of what gun its being fired out of. Like a longhorn should do the same amount of damage as the dmr at a close range. The only thing that should be varied is bullet velocity, range, and accuracy.
why don't they allow the standardized suppressor to be attached to the DMR? The SVD can attach the normalized suppressor so whats the issue? Also, the flash suppressor seen on the DMR supports a slip on suppressor to be mounted. We need a proper western counterpart to the SVD. Also they need to add in a new suppressed rifle/smg in .300 blackout to act as the western counterpart to the VSS/ASVAL.
@@geraltofvengerberg3049 The SVD is the DMRs counterpart and can be suppressed. if it really was for balance, they would allow the DMR to be suppressed as well. it makes no sense. Also, as a "Tactical" rifle, the VS-89 (SV-98) should be able to equip the normalized suppressor. It would serve as a good counterpart to the Pioneer.
@@geraltofvengerberg3049 it did during their internal testing. screenshots of the gun taken back when they were developing the update shows the SV-98 with its unique scope. it seems it was removed before the update went public. it very well may come back at a later time.
The DMR is needed. This is true. It's the iconic weapon of DayZ, but it's true. It needs more civilian weapons. The CZ 550 would be a welcomed introduction I feel. More old school iconic weapons from DayZ mod
Definitely needed an alternative to the svd for the people that don't like rus weapons/scopes. I personally like the svd but hate the scope and the pu scope for the Mosin is meh for medium to long range. Plus 7.62x54 and nato .308 (7.62x51) are very similar in ballistics
What's going on with the smoke on the barrel outside at the end of the vid? Is that rain interacting with the heat of the barrel? Or am I dreaming and this is just an edit?
No PPSH-41 but another OP western gun ? If any weapons are added anymore, it needs to be lower/mid tier civilian/police weapons. Honestly, new weapons are barely a priority for most DayZ players now. We can't even check our inventory while inside a vehicle, along many other things. From what I understand, adding a new gun is just low hanging fruit for the devs so it's whatever, keeps interest and they are keeping player count up. But CMON!
Still waiting for a Russian military vehicle. One gets the impression running around Chernarus that it was entirely populated by US military that would collect Russian firearms.
ngl i would like to NOT be completely defenseless while in a car, i should be able to shoot out of the car. they should add hit boxes to car doors when they are open so you can hit players with them. I would like for them to add motorcycles.
We need our AS50 and M107 back and then adjust accordingly, to be fair though, a Russian military, Czech, or NATO bolt action high caliber would be more balanced, regardless, we're still missing a proper military precision sniper, instead all we have is Marksman rifles and 2 pretty old rifles (yes I know the Mosin was a military rifle, from the 1800s, but with the "smallest" optic, the PU, instead of the PE or PEM)
The lar and vsd still spawn at heli crashes and convoys on official on playstation, im guessing its a glitch but i dont see anyone talking about it. I made a post in a Facebook group and other people said they were also finding them at helis and convoys.
How long has that been happening? The most recent patch notes mentioned how heli crashes etc got their weapon loot rebalanced. Some of the weapons previously exclusive to gas zones were changed back.
@Aggrobiscuit yes I know that's why I brought it up, yesterday I found an lar at a heli crash. Lar, vsd and aug are supposed to only be at gas zones now but I've found like 6 Lars at heli crashes since the update. Everything else seems to be fine vss and asval are spawning at high tier military but they messed something up with the lar and vsd. I haven't personally found vsds at helis or convoys but 2 people told me they did, I've only found Lars.
Honestly I think they should have made a new scope to go with the DMR or made it take the hunting scope. This buff is crazy tho, the new Dayz laser beam 🤣🤣.
if only i could put a hunter scope on it or LITERALLY ANY OTHER SCOPE i hate all of the zoomed nato scopes so much and i won't use the non zoomed optics because it's supposed to be a longer ranged gun (hence the name)
Now they really should add some penalty to swing left and right raised weapons. So the sprinters cant zigzag like madmans and one hit guys aiming at them for minutes.
Disagree with these changes, we don’t need more OP weapons, we need more civilian stuff and quality of life improvements! One step forward, three steps backwards with these devs
Yeah, right. What we "need" is more fundamental changes like being able to simply organise your inventory in a car, and additions to the painfully lackluster base building system.. things which the community have been asking for for literal years.
@@sabokiTV Well, what about the hats they added recently, the sling bags, etc you can't expect them to be releasing full wardrobes every patch, as there is a lot for them to do for a relatively small studio.
Not good when now the rare weapon you have little chances of finding. Can be camped. And like the aug why even have it when chances you get one from trading group in livonia since the bunker is mined, taken, or camped.
I would like to see less new weapons in dayz and more expanded weapons systems. Drones (including civilian RC toys), flammables, dogs, vehicles with weapons, deployable cover, shields, and of course, helicopters would all do well to expand on the current gunfighting of dayz.
Oh boy, it’s going to need to be nerfed. What’s the point making a DMR if it beats out all of the SNIPER RIFLES? Also, on a side note: I’m proud of DayZ for staying as popular as it has and how much they’ve done with the game, but I’m slightly disappointed in the direction the game has taken the last couple years. It seems almost none of the updates have been to the survival/zombie parts of the game and mostly dedicated to new mechanics, items, and weapons. Whatever they’ve been doing is working, but I started playing in January 2015 and fell in love with the idea of a brutal, gritty survival story with each life. It seems to be mostly about new ways to kill other players now. Ah well, can’t please everyone. Stay frosty.
The FAL and M14 use the same round. They should be nearly identical in performance. Idk why the devs keep ruining the guns in this game. Why the fuck does the M4 have such a high fire rate too?
Sadly the fire rate of the m4 is to do with server cycles or something. Guns have to have set RPMs decided by that, we can't just plug in real life values and have it work realistically. So it has to be "close enough".
When I first saw this Rifle in game, I automatically assumed I could use an actual Suppressor on it because of the style they copied from the original actual rifle in Reality. Not being able to use an actual suppressor on this rifle but an improvised suppressor was just Dumb lol 🤷🏻♂️
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DMR Stats: wobo.tools/dayz-weapon-info-tool/DMR/#wepstatdata
Hey WOBO I've heard rumors about how epi pens or maybe codeine pills cam be popped before pushing a 1 on 1 gunfight for extra shock resistance was wondering if you could test it thanks love what you do! ❤
Native suppressor attachment is still so good on the SVD, still going to be rocking it I think
I agree that it makes it really good, but the stats of the DMR now make it WAY better in eyes. Wrongfully so imo. Idk how I feel abt the changes and whether they r good or bad. I’ll have to see when I play and get a feel for the gun to see if it’s too strong or not.
@@conro7003it's bad. I know dayz isn't exactly a milsim but they are clearly trying to go for at least somewhat realistic gunplay. Yes, the m14 is better for combat IRL than bolt actions but that has about 99% to do with mag capacity and fire rate. There is a reason snipers usually still use bolt actions. They're more accurate and if anything, should deal more in game damage than the M14 since less energy is lost after firing every round. What I mean is that there is literally no reason to choose the Tundra or any other rifle over the M14 now apart from the scope- which is more of an experience thing. That makes the game a bit dull. If they're gonna add things like the M14 and make it OP, that's fine as long as they add in other DMRs and make kind of like another tier of guns that would put all bolt actions in a tier below. It doesn't make sense to me in any way how the M14 could be the best gun by far in a game that has the SVD, M4, AK74, AK101 and the FN FAL. No one would pick an m14 for 500m+ ranges IRL and no one would pick it over an M4 in a CQB situation (unless for nostalgia reasons).
@@footingball5566smithing thing that doesn’t make sense to me is that the FAL and M14 are chambered in the same round and they carry almost the same exact energy irl. So for them to buff the m14 doesn’t make too much sense imo
@@andreww8213yes thats a good point. It makes us logical guys scratch our heads.
@@andreww8213 Yeah IMO, it should be based on real ballistics just like the rest of the game. The same caliber from a given barrel length should have the exact same result down range. Of course they could balance it so bolt actions are viable aswell but if the semiauto gun from a given caliber does singificantly better than all its counterparts, I'd say should balance it. I personally think a lot of thr gunplay in Dayz could use some reworking. For example, I think the M4 should have a lower fire rate and I think most guns should have less flash and smoke or at least some sort of long lasting flash hider. I know it's part a skill issue but I find it way harder to control the recoil than other shooters with "realistic" gunplay such as Arma and insurgency sandstorm. The recoil does too much spontaneous jumps sideways but even when I manage the recoil (and I have been getting better and hitting my 30-50m beams) I still find it hard to even see what you're shooting at sometimes because of the enormoud cloud infront of the gun.
Long rant but all in all I think some guns definitely can be OP if they are in real life (like the M4 being pretty much the perfect assault rifle) but it should be based on reality. Battle rifles/ DMRs should be better than bolt actions at medium to long range and bolt actions should be better at long range.
2:47 "The DMR's damage is far superior in terms of damage"
great video btw
oppps haha
I would prefer if they just implemented the real life stats and "balanced" by making the guns rarer if they have to.
Well they used to be more realistic.. until about 3 years ago when updates became more frequent…
The game felt real back then, not it’s kind of turning into call of duty…
.380 does shit damage.. 9 mm does shit damage.. 22 does shit damage. 357 is a joke now… I could go on…
@@jeffheyer7783 .357 instantly dropping unarmored players is a joke?
Only two shots to KO a plate wearer?
Videogame-wise thats very strong.
9mm also has a fair position now.
2 shots to KO unarmored people.
The third bullet kills.
That. SEEMS fairly realistic and strong to me.
It is a bit too strong though on armor:
4 9mm on a plate vest KOs you?
I think you should be close to immune to 9mm with a plate for realism reasons, I could be wrong though.
I do think that 380 and .22 should kill in one shot (slowly) if you are hit in the vittals.
They had organ-hitboxes years ago which were scrapped.
@@Left4Plamz that’s def not how 357 works now… I’ll shoot in armored players twice in chest with 357 and they run away. I have so many videos showing this kind of shit.
@@Left4Plamz 4 9 mm does not KO a plate carrier. Are we playing the same game? Lol
I’ve been playing this game on console since 2019.. and the damage is all fucked up now. Is shot someone with the SG rifle in the chest and it didn’t even knock I guy out
Thanks so much for all the hard work making these videos man, it’s greatly appreciated.
😂😂 for a skill based game of course right ? or those bad in games mid thirty's noobs ? make your pick
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The DMR didnt need this overpowered buff, it was already good how it was
I swear those devs dont know wtf they are doing 😂
It’s a DMR which means like at a max 500m. This is a big big facepalm. Though I think I know what their aim was, more than likely they want to hype the new gun as much as possible. Or maybe they just flip coins on everything 😂
@@alexanderbielski9327 If you weren’t tracking DMR stands for “designated marksman rifle” I don’t think 500m is unreasonable for a rifle designed for longer range engagements. That being said they should also buff the other long range rifles in general
most standard DMR's can go from medium to medium-long range, sniper rifles are designated for long ranger exclusively, the DMR in this case is designed; in the real world, exclusively for medium range engagements. @@Thethrongle
Did you touch the DMR before, or after the patch hit, because it's been the same since release 🙄
I'll say this. When the DMR was added onto my faction wars server, it changed everything. The last time something like this has happened was when the GL was added. Now, the DMR is the standardized rifle for both teams and it's insane. I got around ten guys to fire at a convoy with this thing... The noise made me think I was going death. It was insane and fun, and DayZ is so awesome
what gun is GL?
@@potatochipssagrenade launcher maybe?
Yes, GL= Grenade launcher
@@potatochipssa Sorry, Conquest lingo. GL, thumper, "THE THING!" all amount to Grenade Launcher.
Yup, Fighting the GLs was very annoying. Every red and their mother seemed to have it 😂
I’d also consider how the VSD does have an option for a suppressor, where as the DMR the best you got is the bottle suppressor I also think tho the DMR has better options for attachments but either way they are both beasts in their own right
the fact that the dmr does more dmg than the bolt actions that use the same ammo seems like a bug to me, every other automatic weapon has less damage than bolt actions in the same caliber.
if this is intended, im gonna loose faith in the devs
it is a designated military rifle after all.. it would have advanced rifling. it should stay next to the vsd if anything
@@grantfreeman5327 lol! advanced rifling. You dont know anything about ballistics or cartridges.
The bullet loses some energy to the bolt cycling; a bolt action with the same barrel length should preform better in terms of ballistics.
@@grantfreeman5327 lol
@@underwearpower”advanced rifling” sounds like an upgrade for a gun in a video game made by liberals.
The SVD has 1 more advantage: silencer. DMR only takes the improvised ones. But after this video / after this buff I am going for the DMR for sure :D
That and the VSD night vision scope is better I think than American one
@@jeffheyer7783 yeah you may be right
I swear they hired someone from PUBG's balancing department, these recent changes are godawful. All automatic rifles underperform significantly in terms of bullet velocity. 40% bullet velocity difference between the FAL and DMR?! This game is turning into a joke.
yeah all this arcade balance nonsense they have introduced to the game as of late has seriously made it worse at least to me
Between this and the melee changes, I truly wonder who they hired recently to come up with and change stats
True and the durability of clothing changes are ridiculous.
@@packwolf445 they seem to think that having to engaging in fixing items constantly is good gameplay or something. Dont get me wrong items should degrade but right now its turned up to 11. Honestly it feels like they have simplified alot of things also like clothing and how its balanced, more clothing items used to be unique and have special sizes like the rider jackets inventory being only big enough for a sawn off shotgun or realism the gorka suit being both waterproof and warm not just water proof . This plus weapon changes is making dayz feel like a generic survival game clone now its losing its realism and being simplified
@deltaforce2780 let's jot forget, for some reason an M4 starts to break after 120 rounds, and suppressors have such low durability that a single fight can leave them ruined
The .308 round gets about 50fps faster per inch if barrel. The m14 has a 22" barrel and the FAL has a 21" barrel.
It’s probably the EBR with an 18” barrel. Look at the comparison to the SVD.
@@nicehandsfeet11Yeah, doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but it's the new weapon so I guess it has to be OP.
they should make the vsd almost impossible to find but do 160-180 damage@@Aggrobiscuit
I'm saying the M14 shouldn't have that much power vs the other .308 rifles, because they all have full length barrels.
Mosin should be the most powerful weapon in dqyz... 7.62x54r is alot more powerful then a .308... ontop of this semi automatic firearms use barrel pressures to cycle a new round which lowers the velocity of the bullet
advanced rifling exists
2:45 God I wish we had hordes like that in this game, just wondering around
zombie hordes do need to become a thing. namalsk should also be added to console.
Boy do I have some news for you @@spencer6104
You can farm the SVD from Rify now without risking much or having to travel far at all, I have gotten an SVD 2 times out of 4 runs I did this update, although i suspect it isn't that common and I was just getting lucky.
It is this common I think, I have found 2 in 4 loots of pavlavo as well, Also 4x M4's, 2x AugX, 1x KAM and multiple suppressors
Was this low pop server??? I’ve been to Rify a couple times and have never found an M4 there, or anything really..
I found a VSS and sval at pavlovo but that’s it
@@jeffheyer7783 medium to high. Totally dried up now though. Suppressors only, ppl must be storing and shutting down the spawns.
@@jeffheyer7783 P.S. -> 4 land mines & 2 gernade trip wires in the gas might knock back the competition. I’ll get back to you. 🤔
A semi-auto retaining more velocity/energy down the range than a bolt action using the same cartridge is not very realistic.
you'd be right if this was ARMA but DayZ is more casual, it's for game balance mostly (there wasn't really a "best" weapon but now there is)
@USERWASBANNED I don't think making the 20 round semi more powerful has anything to do with balancing. Usually, making something that is already super powerful even better does the opposite of balancing, it makes something overpowered
@@packwolf445 hence why it's rare and isn't just a clone of the FAL or SVD
@USERWASBANNED Its not hard to get, though. Like at all. It's not even a gas gun, it's at helis and convoys. I had one on day 2 of the update
it impossible to find now, since the hot fix..@@packwolf445
These buffs are too strong the dmr is very easy to find currently, it's almost always in my loadout now. No single gun should be that much stronger than the rest while being so "common".
What do you mean by common? Unless if you're talking about boosted loot servers, vanilla servers have the dmrs practically impossible to find unless you go into tier 4 loot zones that are gas zones. And before you start getting all keyboard warrior mode, all I'm asking is what do you mean by common, because it's hard as hell to find it even in some boosted servers.
@@Le_MikeYou find it at helicopters and convoys not static gas zones, I've also had incredible luck finding it with friends first helicopter we went to after wipe and now have 4-5 of them.
@@Le_Mikedude the first day of the new update i had already found one in a convoy, i play official server btw
@@Le_Mikeheli crashes and convois my guy. I've been finding them more than FALs and SVDs including magazines and yes of course in vailla 😂
@@Le_Miketell me you know nothing about the game without telling me you know nothing about the game
Dayz devs don’t understand barrel lengths. Longer guns like the SVD/tundra would have higher velocity and would hit harder. The dmr is a battle rifle. So it should not be doing that
They used to work off of that, now I think that they took tge people who did that and dragged them to the arma series, and hired devs from more arcade-y backgrounds
@@packwolf445exactly. Pretty sure all of their knowledgeable devs are working on Arma Reforger and Arma 4 and I’m really glad that’s the case. Fuck DayZ and Vigor.
This doesn’t even make sense the SVD should be the most powerful, longest barrel length, bigger round, etc.. also why don’t the Russian weapons have a 6x optic?
I suspect they made the DMR stronger because it can't attach a suppressor.
I really love realistic stats on guns like what you are mentioning, I wish they would use IRL statistics :)
So the VSD and LAR are worse and at the same time rarer? Tf is that balancing?
Could you now possibly get a longer shot with the 20% bullet speed increase? That video was amazing and I love how much work you put into it
pioneer slightly faster no?
He said that the furthest kill shot was 800m but the dmr can kill at 810m. So yes.
i took on a dmr with an as val loaded with a full magazine of AP, and a ballistic vest. this dude had a hoodie on, and was dying of a cold and I barely survived, after being knocked unconscious and him dying while I was asleep. this new gun is very powerful.
Frankies dmr enters the game at the same time frankie makes his comeback.
I just wish they would add the scope that the DMR had in ArmA II
1.025 to 1.23 seems earily like a typo that was meant to be a small nerf
It needs to be an inbetween for the SKS and the VSD. Just use it as a median and leave it at that it’s perfect just like that 😂
Type 81 would be a good choice!
Why is everything beyond 1k meters fog, somehow Minecraft has better render distance.
Bohemia has completely lost the plot. The chambering of a firearm should determine its ballistics, not arbitrary game balance concerns. Any difference between the M14 and similar firearms in 7.62/.308 should be minute differences in velocity due to differing barrel lengths. i haven't played this game for ages, and if this is the direction they are truly going in, i doubt i ever will again.
Seriously, bring back some realistic gun ballistics to this game. That's what drew me to Dayz in the first place.
Ever since Brian Hicks left. they have been slowly messing around with the gun play of this game. and it is slowly turning into another bullet sponge, lame shooter
And I still think the SVD is slightly ahead, it'll take a good assortment of scopes and optics, the ammunition is typically easier to come across, and the best thing over the DMR, it'll take a legit suppressor instead of that 2 shot, all zombles react to, bottle suppressor.
They should probably adjust either the SVD spawns to match, or better yet, reduce the DMR spawn rate to match the SVD... along with bringing them closer together for damage, range, bullet speed, shock ECT..... and I still think we need at least one military precision sniper instead of marksman rifles and an ancient 1800s Mosin with a great, but still subpar optic compared to the PE or PEM optic instead (along side) the PU.
Yes precision snipers are cool.
I remember M24 from DayZ Mod 2012.
I would also like MGs, RPGs and Anti-Material rifles :) (Veery rare and with realistic drawbacks)
@@Left4Plamzyeah we're already missing, meaning either were in the game (still) or game files, quite a few firearms, but we were supposed to get both the M249 and the PKM LMGs, and we had previously in DayZ (Mod) the M24, Lee Enfield, M14 proper, M40A3, LRR .338 Lapua, and CZ550 in 9.3 Mauser (along with the later AS50 and M107, and then many other melee, firearms, and non-lethal weapons from DayZ SA itself, the SA weapons alone we're missing over 20, not including the above listed DayZ Mod infamous firearms).
We absolutely need a legit, long range, precision military rifle(could be split into furniture/receiver/barrel and spawn rare for the work to get one running and to only have 1 or 2 or something on the map at a given time), also the LMGs which we're still missing listed above, and not even including some of the infamous LMGs from DayZ Mod like my baby, the M240 in .308....but at least those 2 LMGs, the M249 and PKM which were either in the game already (DayZ SA) and never officially given, or promised to get....but those also should be rare like above, and would need to be sourced from far away places that need a boat or helicopter to get to.... like our promised addition of Utes Island Military Compound to be added to the far south sea miles off the coast of Skalisty Island like we were literally told we would be getting "in the upcoming patch", which was literally over 5yrs ago and never, never was actually added like they said AND SHOWN.
Imagine having the sea water colder than usual, not being able to swim at all past Skalisty without dying, and having our promised helicopter (or Bumblebee airplane) finally added, having it's necessary parts scattered around the map miles away from where one would spawn, having to source all the parts, make your way to fix up either of those 2 Arial vehicles, fighting off other players who are trying to do the same, and then flying it to Utes Island and being able to find either an M249, PKM, M24, M40A3, LRR ECT, and then having to find parts or specific parts to the weapons again, elsewhere on the map....it would give us some "end game goals", get people moving around the map, bring back the old hair raising fights over the helicopter or plane.... I mean, it's at least SOMETHING "end game" related, not like we're ever going to see a new base building update with new base building pieces that actually work, a code lock, or a balanced method of building bases VS raiding bases. 🙄
4:33 poor zed💀😭
This is one of the biggest reasons why I quit playing. First it was medieval clothing and swords... and now they're portraying an automatic M14 damage/speed to exceed a bolt action Model 70.
They're ruining the immersion of the game, and any semblance of reality (as if the glitches weren't doing a fine job of that already).
All this, and still no P90... which would've been a far better +1, in my book... but maybe not, since they're now into making up magical ballistics profiles 🤦♂️
I hate when devs start moving to unrealistic changes for no reason.
the svd has one advantage over the dmr and that is the eastern supressor, good thing i've got both
Would be nice if the vss got a small buff, I know it’s subsonic but still
AP rounds are suposed to be the buff to that gun as they ignore a plate carrier protection. What i usually do is to load AP rounds in 20 rounds mags and normal rounds in 10 rounders, so i kill zeds with normal mags and if i'm about to engange just switch mags. Also consider this gun to be an SMG with spotting capabilities instead of a sniper rifle
@@sebastianmanuguianortega1849 they don't ignore the plate carrier anymore that was changed a while back
@@sebastianmanuguianortega1849It does feel like an SMG but it shouldn't. 9x39 is a hefty round IRL.
it is considered a rifle, call of duty made it an smg because well.. call of duty@@Aggrobiscuit
I was literally just thinking about this, maybe they should give it a 30rnd mag and the sound of its gunshots shouldn't attract zombies(if it isnt already like this).
Convoys should be moved off the coast entirely along with trains. And the DMr should be in the static GAS zones and the svd should be put back at helicopter crashes and convoys. That would make a lovely balance or at least one to TEST out!!!!
It's literally the DMR from the Day Z mod now.
I'm on ps5. Had the DMR for 3 days now and can't find a magazine for it. I've been to Tisy, helicopter crashes, convoys over and over. I have found so many LAR mags it makes me sick! Thanks for the vid Wobo
Really? I swear I’m always finding Atleast 10 round magazines for it around all types of military. Try looking at wrecked hummers or switch to Livonia for a loot run
@dxlta8810 Thanks. Soon after my post I found a mountain backpack at Tisy with two 20 rnd mags in it! I think a noob dropped it for a military pack and forgot to transfer all the loot!
@@BlueDuck-os2fh His loss your Gain 💯💯
I see arguments in the comment section about ballistics and effective range. My 2 cents are- shut up about it…because shooting 0MOA accuracy (0 dispersion) would make our survivor the best shot in the history of firearms. I like the way it is right now…don’t have to worry about if it’s you or if it’s the wind/altitude/humidity/any of that. Or maybe it was just a cold bore shot…
Not sure how I feel about these changes. Will need to get my hands in one and actually play w it to form a good or bad impression on whether it’s too strong or not.
All bullets should do the same damage regardless of what gun its being fired out of. Like a longhorn should do the same amount of damage as the dmr at a close range. The only thing that should be varied is bullet velocity, range, and accuracy.
Pubg devs obsession over making the game more aggravating is commendable
I get it that the DMR has better stats, but I'm probably sticking to the SVD simply because of how juicy it looks and sounds.
SVD seems to shoot blanks when I use it
why don't they allow the standardized suppressor to be attached to the DMR? The SVD can attach the normalized suppressor so whats the issue? Also, the flash suppressor seen on the DMR supports a slip on suppressor to be mounted. We need a proper western counterpart to the SVD. Also they need to add in a new suppressed rifle/smg in .300 blackout to act as the western counterpart to the VSS/ASVAL.
balance mate
@@geraltofvengerberg3049 The SVD is the DMRs counterpart and can be suppressed. if it really was for balance, they would allow the DMR to be suppressed as well. it makes no sense. Also, as a "Tactical" rifle, the VS-89 (SV-98) should be able to equip the normalized suppressor. It would serve as a good counterpart to the Pioneer.
Yeah its sucks its either devs are lazy or trying to prevent guns from becoming too op, also SV-98 doesn't even have a proper scope
@@geraltofvengerberg3049 it did during their internal testing. screenshots of the gun taken back when they were developing the update shows the SV-98 with its unique scope. it seems it was removed before the update went public. it very well may come back at a later time.
still running the SVD because of the suppressor
The DMR is needed. This is true. It's the iconic weapon of DayZ, but it's true. It needs more civilian weapons. The CZ 550 would be a welcomed introduction I feel.
More old school iconic weapons from DayZ mod
Can you make a video on the best loadout in dayz?
I plan to, but it depends on the situation and what you want
An M14 in 7.62x51 with a 22" barrel doing more damage at range than a Mosin 9130 in 7.62x54R with a 29" barrel. Lol Ok.
I still love the FN Fal because it's "the right arm of the free world."
Also, full auto, baby 💥💥💥💥💥💥
That being said, DMR does shred.
They just made the DMR (M14) realistic. I take mine to the gun range often and I'm telling u, it slaps HARD AF
Yeah, but not at 800m lol
Definitely needed an alternative to the svd for the people that don't like rus weapons/scopes. I personally like the svd but hate the scope and the pu scope for the Mosin is meh for medium to long range. Plus 7.62x54 and nato .308 (7.62x51) are very similar in ballistics
i guess the devs wanna bring in more og arma 2 dayz players to standalone, me myself loved the dmr in the arma 2 mod
For some reason it was so funny watching him sneak up on that zombie and proceed to mag dump it with the m4😅
I think the vsd is still good for the suppressors
Keep camping with your ghillie and suppressed SVD while we run around and have fun
actually the change of the bulletspeed, made me miss some shots i would have hit before
No reason it should have more velocity than bolt actions of similar barrel length
I would say that the LAR is a lot more utilitarian, it’s much much more well-rounded and I would rather have the option of automatic firing
DMR the God, Mosin the Elder God
What's going on with the smoke on the barrel outside at the end of the vid? Is that rain interacting with the heat of the barrel? Or am I dreaming and this is just an edit?
No PPSH-41 but another OP western gun ?
If any weapons are added anymore, it needs to be lower/mid tier civilian/police weapons.
Honestly, new weapons are barely a priority for most DayZ players now.
We can't even check our inventory while inside a vehicle, along many other things.
From what I understand, adding a new gun is just low hanging fruit for the devs so it's whatever, keeps interest and they are keeping player count up. But CMON!
Still waiting for a Russian military vehicle. One gets the impression running around Chernarus that it was entirely populated by US military that would collect Russian firearms.
ngl i would like to NOT be completely defenseless while in a car, i should be able to shoot out of the car. they should add hit boxes to car doors when they are open so you can hit players with them. I would like for them to add motorcycles.
Many Thanks to Wobo!
We need our AS50 and M107 back and then adjust accordingly, to be fair though, a Russian military, Czech, or NATO bolt action high caliber would be more balanced, regardless, we're still missing a proper military precision sniper, instead all we have is Marksman rifles and 2 pretty old rifles (yes I know the Mosin was a military rifle, from the 1800s, but with the "smallest" optic, the PU, instead of the PE or PEM)
Kinetic energy 😉 great video as always!
I sense a great disturbance in the meta...
The LAR not kicking like a horse and having lower damage than the DMR that uses the same round is kind of bs.
The game really needs a nice mildot scope.
Great breakdown.
I feel like Frankie when I get the DMR lol
and stumbled across one today after mowing a fella that had it+His AUG A3 😂😂
We need to be able to equip a shirt, jacket, and vest
The lar and vsd still spawn at heli crashes and convoys on official on playstation, im guessing its a glitch but i dont see anyone talking about it. I made a post in a Facebook group and other people said they were also finding them at helis and convoys.
How long has that been happening? The most recent patch notes mentioned how heli crashes etc got their weapon loot rebalanced. Some of the weapons previously exclusive to gas zones were changed back.
@Aggrobiscuit yes I know that's why I brought it up, yesterday I found an lar at a heli crash. Lar, vsd and aug are supposed to only be at gas zones now but I've found like 6 Lars at heli crashes since the update. Everything else seems to be fine vss and asval are spawning at high tier military but they messed something up with the lar and vsd. I haven't personally found vsds at helis or convoys but 2 people told me they did, I've only found Lars.
LAR is not an "only gas zone" loot...
U can find LAR @ heli and convoys
VSD, M4, AK-M are the "gas zone only" weapons...
@diegoaccomando5346 the patch notes said the lar was supposed to be tho, did they change them last second
This dmr buff is silly. They should have added the sv98 or another bolt action that was superior to Mosin only spawning at helis
I finally found a DMR! .... on the dead guy who stepped on the landmine I planted 😂😂 - I bet he was really sad lol.
They should buff the svd aswell, when the buff will come of the dmr?
Won’t be long until the DMR is either put in toxic zones or nerfed to be closer to the LAR.
i have like 150 hours on the new patch and i still cannot find one haha, 6 helis, 3 convoys
more convoys my furry friend just got 1
Its a fu**ing proper designated marksmans rifle And a good end game weapon in official
wahts about silencer ... the dmr have no metal silencer and makes it hard to play silence
None of the weapons in Day Z that uses 308 can have a metal suppressor. IF you want to be stealthy, use the improvised suppressor.
Maybe it could fire nukes as well.
Honestly I think they should have made a new scope to go with the DMR or made it take the hunting scope. This buff is crazy tho, the new Dayz laser beam 🤣🤣.
if only i could put a hunter scope on it or LITERALLY ANY OTHER SCOPE i hate all of the zoomed nato scopes so much and i won't use the non zoomed optics because it's supposed to be a longer ranged gun (hence the name)
The update we didn't need
Now they really should add some penalty to swing left and right raised weapons. So the sprinters cant zigzag like madmans and one hit guys aiming at them for minutes.
too bad i wont get it until next year
Why
Idk, thr full auto aspect and variability of scopes on the fal is still unmatched. Ill give the dmr another try.
Try DMR/Lemas combo
Disagree with these changes, we don’t need more OP weapons, we need more civilian stuff and quality of life improvements!
One step forward, three steps backwards with these devs
Clothes and civilian stuff is always being added, do you even pay attention to any patch notes?
Yeah, right. What we "need" is more fundamental changes like being able to simply organise your inventory in a car, and additions to the painfully lackluster base building system.. things which the community have been asking for for literal years.
Just want the gat dang dupers gone
There are changes of those varieties being pumped out, not just one area
@@sabokiTV Well, what about the hats they added recently, the sling bags, etc you can't expect them to be releasing full wardrobes every patch, as there is a lot for them to do for a relatively small studio.
I haven’t even shot mine yet but I think its time to test it on a bear
Does it 1 hit KO a player wearing the chainmail + plate combo?
Not good when now the rare weapon you have little chances of finding. Can be camped. And like the aug why even have it when chances you get one from trading group in livonia since the bunker is mined, taken, or camped.
its a skill issue..
@@grantfreeman5327 looting isnt a skill so maybe go play the game.
I would like to see less new weapons in dayz and more expanded weapons systems. Drones (including civilian RC toys), flammables, dogs, vehicles with weapons, deployable cover, shields, and of course, helicopters would all do well to expand on the current gunfighting of dayz.
You never disappoint wobo.
They should have areas that have a massive amount of zombies like the walking dead would be wild
I saw a modded server with a large zombie hoard.. would be cool if you ran into large hoards in dayz…
Oh boy, it’s going to need to be nerfed. What’s the point making a DMR if it beats out all of the SNIPER RIFLES?
Also, on a side note: I’m proud of DayZ for staying as popular as it has and how much they’ve done with the game, but I’m slightly disappointed in the direction the game has taken the last couple years. It seems almost none of the updates have been to the survival/zombie parts of the game and mostly dedicated to new mechanics, items, and weapons. Whatever they’ve been doing is working, but I started playing in January 2015 and fell in love with the idea of a brutal, gritty survival story with each life. It seems to be mostly about new ways to kill other players now. Ah well, can’t please everyone. Stay frosty.
feels like a bug almost
The FAL and M14 use the same round. They should be nearly identical in performance. Idk why the devs keep ruining the guns in this game. Why the fuck does the M4 have such a high fire rate too?
Sadly the fire rate of the m4 is to do with server cycles or something. Guns have to have set RPMs decided by that, we can't just plug in real life values and have it work realistically. So it has to be "close enough".
I hope they never add a mount to add hunting scopes to the DMR
Did they sub out the lar for the aug in the toxic zones ?
The devs memed you WOBO! xD
The dmr is crazy hit a fully geared guy in the toe and he went uncon lol
Just found one with a 20 round mag in a car
What they need to do is remaster the basebuilding. This is ridiculous.
Give us a better scope now
When I first saw this Rifle in game, I automatically assumed I could use an actual Suppressor on it because of the style they copied from the original actual rifle in Reality. Not being able to use an actual suppressor on this rifle but an improvised suppressor was just Dumb lol 🤷🏻♂️