The usual kept some guys that he probably shouldnt didnt work on a good replacement for OC and having the one side of the ball he supposed to be great at underpreform horribly @basicmeme1040
The titans were 6-24 the last 30 games, 1-9 in a weak division, was on a 3-game playoff losing streak, averaged 17Pts a game the last 2-years, and Vrabel refused to let go of his terrible coordinators. The mass media is acting like he was Vince Lombardi.
Exactly! he was horrible! Levis had a small injury and then he puts him in a game that doesnt matter to us (We were not making playoffs anyways) and get him re injured! @@tokk3n-hj4xg
As a Titans fan. I agree fully with this move. It was time. Loved what Mike did for us, but we're going in different directions, I wish him luck. Good coach if he has a great roster, not a great developer (especially for offense)
@@adamant5550roster was bad, it was also the most-injured roster in the sport for three straight years, and he never thought to fire the neanderthal running his S&C team.
I understand that firing Vrabel seems like a bad decision. However, he's really more of a high floor and low ceiling coach. He's only won once in his six years in Tennessee in the playoffs, and that was allowing only 13 points at most and Derrick Henry going for 150+ yards rushing in both playoff games. Every other time, the offense couldn't score more than 20 points even with Henry and AJ amongst other pieces. Furthermore, Tennessee hasn't scored 30+ points in a game in two straight years, a year after being the only team to not do so in 2022. Nate Washington raised a point that Vrabel was too nepotistic, bringing in poor coordinators and S+C staff in Frank Piraino, Todd Downing, Tim Kelly and Craig Aukerman. With all the cap space we have as you mentioned, should Vrabel get a rebuild given his offensive stagnation and peaking in the playoffs? It sucks, but my answer is a begrudging no.
Agreed. It's only an assumption that no other coach would have led this team to the playoffs. Hand on heart, how many of us would have seaid Ryans would take the Texans to the playoffs? Or that Stefansky woud lead the Browns to the playoffs despite a QB carousel and injuries to key players on the offense?
Everyone jumping to Vrabel's defense because he passes the "eye test" meaning he looks like a good coach from a good pedigree. But the results speak for themselves. I dont think the owner and their advisors will take a decision so lightly to fire a 2021 Coach of the Year. However I agree with the video saying they are delusional if they're going to get a new generation Ben Johnson.
I dunno. That's like saying the Colts didn't have good coaching when they kept bumping into the Patriots back in their prime. Yes, I know the Colts did win a superbowl, but the point is that the AFC was stuck dealing with KC juggernaut. Vrabel got the most out of what he had, particularly getting a couple solid season from Tannehill. That all said, we shall see if he finds success at his next gig.
So you are just going to ignore the shit quarterbacks TN has had his entire time. Not many teams are winning with solely a game manager quarterback and those that do need one hell of a defense like the Ravens did in the aughts.
The report that came out today outlined it pretty clearly. Vrabel wanted full control over the roster and that never works. He started to make things toxic behind the scenes and he’s an old school coach that refused to adapt and not hire his buddies to his staff. Titans had a bottom tier defense in 3 of 6 seasons and the offense was only good under Arthur Smith. He’s a good coach, but this narrative that the Titans just fired a HOF coach is a little ridiculous. The Titans wanted a more modern approach and Vrabel didn’t want to change his ways. Carthon’s first draft class was excellent. The team will have probably $85 million in cap space after some cuts. And a premium pick to add an OT or a top WR. It’s a pivotal offseason, but if the Titans do it right, they’ll be set up really well moving forward.
Right, I can tell they've not paid attention to the in house reporting of the titans. As a titans fan, I love this change. I'm tired of seeing Vrabel pick his lackluster buddies as OCs and DCs.
@@olivierdemesy1579 oh damn you were in the war room?! What else can you tell me since you seem to know everything that happened behind the scenes. So AAS let the previous assistant GMs make the picks ahead of the new GM right before she was going to let them go. Brilliant statement.
As a titans fan I think you might be overblowing it a bit. Five of our losses this year came by one score, something the panthers certainly can’t say, and those losses were mainly the fault of poor offensive play calling. This is mostly due to Vrabel himself because he’s quite notorious for being stubborn and unwilling to fire his offensive coordinators, who tend to be his friends. One of my favorite stats to illustrate this is that we haven’t scores 30 points in almost 4 years since 2020. Our offense has been CRIPPLED by horrible play calling, and for one of those years we had AJ Brown and a Prime Derrick Henry. Vrabel was a nice change of scenery but he was unwilling to change and needed to go if the team was gonna keep its head above water, something Amy Adams herself said. The only real mistake we did was not shopping him but I think that was professional courtesy by Amy. Aside from that I think we are a better landing spot than the chargers or falcons for guys like Ben Johnson or Harbaugh, not lest because we beat both of those teams but also because we have 100+ million in cap space and a relatively mid tier roster. Our biggest concerns are the O-line, Receivers, Corners, and Safeties. The o Line will have to come down to the draft and we can probably sign Higgins and another good recover without biting to much into our space, while saving the rest to pump up the secondary. Essentially there’s a lot of room for improvement where we need it outside of just this years draft where we still have a top pick to go after a solid blocker, if we don’t trade it to move up. Also if the game Levi’s had in Miami didn’t convince you that he had potential I genuinely don’t know what will. The kid has gusto and confidence that you rarely see in a rookie and he did all of that with a less than talented offensive system, something CJ Stroud can’t say, and should be illustrated by the fact that 5 of our losses were by one score. Essentially, if we could get a solid offensively minded coach and spend the offseason well we could easily be a playoff team next year with even just minimal improvements to the roster, something that can’t really be said for the commanders or chargers in their divisions. We’re in a good spot to compete we just need a better system and some good additions that I think ran can pull off, especially since he’s already sent for Ben Johnson and has personal connections to Harbaugh from his time in San Francisco.
This, everyone here is acting like he was a god, and yes maybe there aren't better COACHES than Vrabel, but there are definitely better FITS in Nashville. Vrabel might be a superior coach, but there's head coaching candidates that will work better with the Titans than Vrabel. It's a Win-win on both sides.
As a titans fan I love Vrabel and what he did for this team in 2018. He was an answer but we needed a change of scenery, he is a good coach but he's stubborn and not willing to make changes and not just run the ball 150 times a game. I will miss him and I appreciate what he did for this team, but this is a good thing for the titans as a whole. Hopefully we have something for a new head coach to work with so that more coaches are interested in joining our team, which we do.
Heres the thing, Derrick henry is a god amongst men. I love him, but we cannot solely rely on him. Running backs are no longer bell cows, the problem i had was that we were running the ball way too much. We can run the ball just not 150 times a game. Give him like 15 or 20 attempts and thats fine and use him as a way to wear down defenses not the focal point of how we score points.@@johnchedsey1306
@@johnchedsey1306 Derrick Henry is old now and has lost a step. Also if teams know you're going to run the ball they can stop even Henry in his prime. If you watch Titans games you'll see Henry more often than not get tackled behind the line. I'm so tired of the Titans old ass running playstyle, it's been like this literally the entire Titans history. We really need to get a more modern offense.
6:53 But Rome Odunze could still be available. Chances are Brock Bowers could still be on the board. If the Titans aren’t able to get a high OL prospect in this year’s draft, they could still come away with a great receiving prospect.
The Titans loss maybe the Patriots’ gain. While yes Mike Vrabel isn’t the best coach in the NFL and certainly has areas to improve on, I wouldn’t mind if the Pats hired him. I will hope Mike will evolve however.
Im gonna give you guys a different perspective. Im a Titans fan: this move was necessary. Vrabel just stubborn and loyal. He's really bad at hiring coordinators. He chooses to hire people who have been with him for a long time regardless of qualification. Our team has been injury prone for 3 STRAIGHT YEARS. At some point, thats on our coaching staff. Vrabel took out assistant O-line coach last season and made him head o-line coach, despite our o-line being awful last year. Our secondary has been horrid for many years, and Vrabel is a defensive guy. Im not saying hes a bad coach, but we had to move on from him. We need an offensive minded coach to help develop Levis
That's one of the few outside staff positions his whole entire time here I give him credit for going and getting from Washington regardless of results but the talent was really lacking in that secondary group (but they showed fight in spots especially red zone D/the last game) even for that coach in Chris Harris.
I love how all the analysts out there are saying that if a team does not get one of the top two rated guys in the draft then they can't get better. How many highly ranked QBs and recievers have been busts over the last few drafts and how many solid performers have proven thier worth.
Would love to see an in-depth look at the Jets like this. As a fan, there was so much hope coming into this year, but now they are just stuck until Rodgers is done and they can clean house. This is the most clueless that I have felt on what they are going to do and where they stand as a fan for 20 years.
I may I would be pissed to if I just traded away at one of our best players to literally draft the same position and pray, he as good as AJ Brown like does this team realize their quarterback was Ryan Tannehill literally keep your weapons
@@A_Name_I still genuinely like the Malik pick. He ended up being ass, but we wasted 1 of our 3 third rounders on him, and there’s no way Robinson would’ve drafted someone good with that pick. Malik’s ceiling was incredibly high, just turns out he couldn’t live up to it.
I believe the reason we made this move was the fact that AAS knows we are never going to win a superbowl with a team or coach like this. A youthful, offensive mind who can give a fresh perspective to the staff and locker room can do wonders for this franchise. AAS knows we have to play a more offensive and passing style game and a feisty team that plays ugly football won’t win anything in the modern day NFP
once again, vrabes is a good coach. what he wants and what we need just don't match up anymore. we needed to blow this team up after we lost to the bengals, but vrabes wanted to keep on contending (why we signed d hop) and we just can't do that anymore. we need a reset and it doesn't help when he and the front office didn't hit on draft picks often (caleb farley) and didn't fill in the holes we had. also hiring in house so much, todd downing should've never got the oc job. i wish him the best, but if you couldn't see this coming then i don't know what to tell you
As you admit, the Titans are in a full rebuild with a GM who has a different philosophy (SF) than Vrabel did (NE). It makes sense to change coaches at this point to me.
I think is kind of a blessing for mike because that firing just continues to prove how much of a dumpster fire that front office is and he can finally be set free and get a roster he can win with
I think only the people that have been watching the games week in and week out are the only ones defending this decision. I'm 100% fine with it. He looks great on paper, on tv, he's got swagger, but that just isn't translating to the WINS column. I know the players like him, but their loosing, I'll bet they'd like winning more. Also, how many penalties on 3 and no fucking way in hell did we give up this year? How many penalties turned the the game, kept a drive going? how vanilla of an offense can you have and expect to win? I'd trade vrabes for bill in a freaking heartbeat.. bill come show the world Tom isn't the only one that can win elsewhere!!!@@nashvegas4476
I don't think underachiving is the sole reason for firing Vrabel and this isn't that obvious. And that's why it looks strange if you don't watch it closely. Vrabel didn't seem to be on the same page than his GM or Team Owner, and the relation between Vrabel and the owner was deteriorating. If you unpack all this, the firing starts to make sense.
I have a lot of friends that are titans fans so I keep up with the team the almost as much as I keep up with my Chiefs. From a coaching standpoint Vrabel is great, but anyone who watches their games can tell that poor offensive play calling hurts their teams success. I understand the lack of talent on the team, but Vrabel being stubborn & not firing his offensive coordinators never helped either. Scheming your offense can help when a team lacks talent, sure it doesn't solve all the problem but it makes it much easier. Since he became the HC for the Titans they have had a bottom 3 scheme, the difference is he had AJ Brown & Prime King Henry to help hide it, but now with a lackluster roster it is a disaster
Solid analysis. Hard to blame you for the bad takes on Vrabel's worth, the Titans' desirability from a long-term standpoint, or the idea that we would spend the few resources we have trading up to any spot this year, as these were mostly league-wide opinions at the time. Would be interested to hear if or how your outlook on them has changed with the widely overlooked staff Carthon/Callahan have put together and after Vrabs did not get a HC job. (Still a little salty about that because we got absolutely slandered by national media for a full week until BB was fired, all the HC openings were filled while Vrabel was left jobless, and everyone went back to ignoring us, but par for the course lol)
I’m fine with them firing Vrabel. I’m not saying I like the move but I’m fine with it. It was time to do a rebuild with this team. And Vrabel while I think is a good coach might not even survive that rebuild whether his decision or ownership due to the losses. Get a different guy in there and who he likes and what system works for him. It’s a restart and no Henry no Tanehill no Byard this is just a different team now.
I don't think its a "big mistake", our owner has a solid history hiring the right people (JROB looked promising too after the 2019 Draft). We have a promising second year GM with a pretty solid first Draft: 1. Skoronski=starter LG and probably LT if we don't get one of Fashanu or Alt 2. Levis= looked pretty good when he had time to throw the ball(worst Oline according to PFF) 3. Spears= RB1 just needs another RB to complement him like Ray Davis🔥 from Kentucky Just because he's a good coach does not mean he's the right coach. Playing Old School Football and being bad at it while thinking there's no need to change anything in season, is just horrible. Yes he had a pretty bad roster because JROB had just one good Draft and overpaid almost every Free Agent he brought in, but Vrabels Staff hirings and roster decisions were horrible too, I mean why did he refuse to play his best Wide Receivers just because their not playing good on Special Teams?! I just think its time for a new Vision and I believe in Ran Carthon and Amy Adams Strunk to hire the right coach.
yea i get firing vrabel is such a gamble but idk why people are acting like vrabel was bill belichick lmao yea our team is was bad but past 3 season vrabel has hired some bad ocs and was underwhelming with defense was it all his fault no. we don't owe vrabel anything people are so delusional they forget vrabel inherited a playoff team who literally beat the chefs the season before he became hc
Even hiring Vrabel looked strange at the time when the whole roster backed Mularkey but Amy had the guts to fire him rather than being eluded by one fluky playoff appearance. She is not perfect and made her mistakes but I trust her.
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Braelon Allen out of Wisconsin would be a great Derrick Henry replacement for this team. He is 6 ft 2 and 240 lbs with good speed. He will only be 20 his rookie year so plenty of years before wear and tear kicks in.
I personally think it would be best to address the #2 possibly #3 backs in FA and wait till next year to use draft capital on a RB unless you get some crazy value in the draft like a full two to three round fall because of no fault to the player at all.
Bringing in both Osbourne & Higgins makes way more sense than just Higgins alone. I just saw an updated mock draft and it has Alt getting picked by Tennessee. Also who would coach the Titans? Here's a list of possibilities... Eric Bieniemy Ben Johnson Josh McDaniels (I'm joking) Jerod Mayo Brian Flores Vic Fangio Rich Bisaccia
I think Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik, Frank Smith and Brian Callahan in that order would be good. I'm not sure about Bieniemy because of past issues with players which might be a future issue not to mention he refused the OC interview last year for TN and sometimes that doesn't bode well.
a huge determining factor for vrabel being fired was due to the titans owner being upset about the fact that they lost to the texans while wearing the oilers uniforms. im not joking you can look it up.
That probably was a factor but were talking death by 1000 cuts with all the stuff including his Pats hall of Fame speech about how it's not like this everywhere to which you got to know that some people wouldn't take kind to some of that and this is coming from a Titans fan who really didn't care.
@@dreamer5687There's an article by Diana Russini and another reporter (via the Athletic) which does a great job of putting things together on this one like the power play Vrabel tried for along with not hiring Ran and if they did hire him he would be the assistant GM.
In my honest fan opinion, fuck Mike Vrabel. He’s a good to great coach and knew how to led the charge. But he is so damn stubborn about never changing his staff or firing his best friends and colleagues from Ohio State and the Patriots tree line. For the past three years, the offense has been a complete blunder of issues. Yes Jon Robinson traded AJ Brown. Even if we traded or didn’t trade AJ Brown, Vrabel time was unfortunately coming to end sooner than later. Our new GM may of had issues with Vrabel but our controlling owner wanted Vrabel for years to come, but Vrabel’s issue with never evolving or creating a better team dynamic on both sides of the field definitely hurt his reputation. He’s not a HOF coach.
🙎 Vrabel's recent Defenses were poor-to-mediocre, and he bears some responsibility for failing to improve it inexpensively through recent drafts (only 3 out of the 15 2022 and 2023 draft picks were Defensive players - a 2nd rounder and two 6th rounders).
Crazy how this guy turned out to be another Jeff Fisher. I say that with no disrespect. I love(d) Jeff Fisher's mindset as i love Vrabel's, but they are both too stubborn.
Everyone thinking he was fired for football related performance is 💯 wrong. He was fired because he demanded a certain organizational structure and complete control over the roster (basically the GM) and wanted someone implemented who could veto a decision by the GM if he didn't agree with it. It had nothing to do with performance. He also said some things that rubbed the organization the wrong way. It's much deeper.
Here in Seattle, I would welcome Vrabel, A.J. Brown, Arden Key... Jeffrey Simmons... bring coach AND his best players (I know Brown is in Philly now, work with me here). Heck, if Derrick Henry wants to come, come on up!
I think drafting 7 will still get them a preminum level player. Sure some of the bigger names will be gone, but with teams being QB hungry, someone will go up and get one. With so many holes to fill, they should trade back for more picks, get the 3rd of 4th rated LT and WR, a few free agent signings and it can work. Not sure why they left Mike go, I would love for them to get a new OC and let Mike coach the team.
If the top two LT's are off the board you get Malik Neighbors who would be WR 1 in most other drafts and was the most productive receiver in college last year and is a home run waiting to happen as well as a yards after catch machine I like Rome too but you never ever pass on a player like that if you have a chance at them, look what Jamar Chase did for Joe Burrow and imagine a WR that can win anywhere on the field with Levis's arm talents.
Gannon made it very obvious that the defense could clamp up a bit better if he wanted it to after Marco Wilson's benching, just he preferred the tank over going 7-10
I think the Cardinals are a sneakily good team next year, especially if they get some more weapons for Kyler but in my opinion, they got a fix up that defense first they’re just so lacking in talent
@@dsbeats5657 it's MHJ or trade down to the highest bidder if he ain't there. And probably trade up for Jer'Zhan Newton too since he's the only Blue chip DT and this team has ZERO DTs
Im excited for a change from Vrabel, Titans need to get better on offense and hire offensive minded coach and new staff. Surround Levis with talent in O Line and WR and see how he develops. Commit to the rebuild and a change in offensive scheme and playcalling could do wonders.
It's almost like Tennessee did the same mistakes Houston did they didn't improve or try to build on from what the had gone on this off-season is very very important they got to bring in the pieces all round starting with the head coach
@7:30 mike vrable was the one who pounded the table for Dillard... Then refused to even try Skronski at LT after dillard and a 6th round rookie had combined for like 25sacks. Vrable was a good coach but nothing on the level the rest of the nfl keeps making him out to be. As for the titans not trading him if they waited a month for the patriots to go through the interview process and then work out a deal they likely miss out on getting a coach they want and have to settle. Is a 2nd round pick worth having to take your 2nd 3rd maybe 4th choice for headcoach?
This was a very lazy take on the Titans. The Titans can be a much better team with just a mediocre head coach even. Vrabel is not this great coach that everyone thinks he is. He inherited a playoff team and rode the coattail of Derrick and AJ. He also single handedly cost the Titans the first shot at a super bowl since 1999. (He stole defensive play calling from Dean Pees will up three scores on KC in the AFCCG) Whoever hires Vrabel will likely be incredibly disappointed when they are a 9-8, 10-7 team at best.
It is pretty funny to know that the Titans fired Vrabel on a year of offensive woes. Yes, offensive woes. Vrabel is a defensive game manager and the Titans allowed >30 points only twice this season. One to a fully healthy Jaguars team, one to an OT game against the red hot Colts. His team did not allow 30+ points from teams like: Healthy Burrow Bengals, the Dolphins, the Texans, or the Ravens, which are very good signs. Most of the top coaches are also offensive... Who probably aren't going to want to touch the dumpster fire that is the Titans offense. They'll accept it over the Panthers, likely, but the Johnsons, Harbaugh, and Slowik for some offensive names are not going to want to really accept that job over the Patriots, Seahawks, Chargers, Falcons, Commanders or staying put where they are to be honest. Anarumo, or Evero (if Panthers can't bar him from signing as a HC) might be two of the only guys they can really get and see if they can keep the Titans defense as good as it has been.
Mike Vrabel was becoming Jeff Fisher 2.0 in terms of not adjusting to your personnel and just letting your ego be in the way to really evaluate players and how to motivate someone you don't see eye to eye. Jon Robinson left quite a mess personnel wise (missing on high draft picks and the AJ Brown trade) but Vrabel's choice of coordinators was his downfall along with player development from him and his coordinators and trainers. Goodbye also to his 3 yards and cloud of dust offense for which he inherited of a prime Derrick Henry to make it work, for which, he was one really successful playoff run. Since that playoff run in 2019 and both coordinators gone, the play calling has regressed a lot and he was simply in the way of a much needed FULL rebuild. If it was up to him, Tannehill would still be penciled as a starting Qb over Levis... He's still a good coach, great motivator, no nonsense approach and will get an offer down the road but in the meanwhile, he will need to choose his coordinators better before asking GM and personnel decision. Also work better with players that don't see eye to eye with him, very rare you will have all 53 players loving you, all you want is respect on both sides...A lot of mixed reviews from former players since the 2019 playoff run
Vrabel will be missed and Thankful for him …he tried to run the 1960 offense run run pass scheme , he always said 3rd and manageable … but little does he know he can get first downs on 1st down … he tried to run down the clock and play bend but don’t break defense…the titans are just trying to build a new scheme of the newer age of nfl football and not playing old school style and keep games low scoring and one scoring …it’s like we don’t try to score ..we chew clock and kick field goals
I like the effort to cover the situation but none of you care about the Titans. When have you ever talked about the Titans before this. The coaching has been up and down for all season. I watch every damn game, and I think vrabel is a good coach, he is just that. Smash Mouth football doesn't work anymore. He does not change up his gameplan ever. We have not scored 30 points in almost a 3rd calander year!! The terrible panthers even scored 30 points this year. Every time we go to the playoffs, ofc the outlier being 2019, we are always first out. Something had to change, the Vrabel era is now over. And I dont want to hear that he was the coach of the year two years ago, because in reference, Ron Rivera has won COY (who he himself was out on the job two years later) and so has Jason Garret!I love vrabel and he is a good coach but this is now a new era for the direction of the team
I am so fucking sad at the Titan's position, but I wish both Vrabs and Henry all the best. I just hope to hell we don't shit the bed in the draft. Our coaching pick and draft are the two things we have to get right if we even want to make it to .500 in 24.
Vrabel did NOT get fired solely because of the team's performance. He got fired because the owner and himself were at odds. A lot of information has come out since his firing on Tuesday. Vrabel got himself fired. People acting like he is one of the greatest coaches of all time. He's a good coach, but not the right coach for a rebuilding team. Great coaches find a way to win playoff games (Titans are on a 3 game losing streak in the playoffs). Mike Tomlin took a bad roster with a bad QB to a 10-7 record and a playoff appearance. That's a great coach. Vrabel is not that guy.
This take is definitely overblown, and I (again) find your research on the Titans lacking. It sounds like you superficially scanned the Titans obvious shortcomings; and then overweighed the draft potentialities, the landscape of OTHER teams, and other OUTSIDE factors; instead of examining the team’s internal circumstances or what has been going on in Nashville. Most fans who’ve actually watched the games week in week out for years are indifferent/fine-to-happy with letting Vrabel go, and don’t think we are as far from being a playoff team as you seem to think. Certainly this move cannot possibly hurt as as much as you seem to insinuate. And Will Levis is most DEFINITELY, absolutely, the guy.
Bro I love your videos and I’ve followed you when you first started. I think you should get a chance to be an analyst somewhere. Being a titans fan, a few things NEED to happen. 1: draft best player available, I’m hoping Brock bowers is available 2. Free agency this year is key, we have cap space. Sign tee Higgins or even replace Henry with saquon Barkley. We need good players for Levi’s. Use the back half of the draft to build o line and cornerbacks. Thoughts?
Lol I appreciate that Adam I thought your comment was going somewhere else entirely I would love Bowers on TEN, but I don't think the positional value will align with them at 7. Tee Higgins going to TEN would be huge this offseason and I really hope it happens for them
I really dont get what they are doing. First they trade off AJ Brown after a season where they got the AFC #1 seed. But then when they are clearly bad they refuse to trade Henry so now he goes for free. And finally they fire probably the best part of their team, Vrabel??
For real I don’t understand if they were going to rebuild. Wouldn’t you’ve gotten rid of everybody because Derrick Henry literally got them at least two wins this year by himself. Wouldn’t you’ve traded that guy I mean they traded Kevin Byard they traded AJ Brown why wouldn’t you trade your last remaining good piece I feel like they just didn’t know what they’re doing and it didn’t have a real clear direction of whether they wanted to fully rebuild
@@dsbeats5657 Oh yeah I forgot about Byard! That makes it even more obvious to trade Henry especially since he was on his last year anyway! If I was a coach or a free agent I would steer way clear of the Titans... There's nothing more scary than an org which either doesnt have a plan or is afraid to cut their star player due to possible backlash of their casual fans
Back to Back seasons with 10 or more losses and acting like the coaches are blameless is ridiculous. Yeah the roster sucks but so does Vrabel's buddies on his staff
It looks like the Titans are in NFL mediocre hell. They aren't good enough to make a serious run in the playoffs (if they even make it) and they aren't bad enough to get a good draft pick. Gotta make a change if you want a different outcome. Not to say that the outcome will be better, just different.
Exactly. The other years he went to the playoffs besides that fluke run saw offensive stagnation where his defense allowed at most 20 points, and he lost both of them. Furthermore, would any team take a coach that hasn't scored 30 points or more in two consecutive seasons?
Yeah, I don’t understand why this team kept Henry if they were gonna trade not only younger, but more valuable position players on their teams in AJ, Brown and Kevin Byard I think the scheme just clearly didn’t have a direction and it’s evident I mean I still don’t understand why they signed DeAndre Hopkins for literally $7 million less than AJ Brown I think this team is just ran by idiots because if you were gonna take at least get rid of 😊Henry a guy that’s gonna get your team wins
You have a promising young QB, a decent enough draft position and the second most cap space. The Titans in one to 1 1/2 seasons will be absolutely fine.
Very smart breakdown and solution to this team. Get a Top Lineman, a good WR, and you will find out how the real Will Levis. You didnt mention D Henry. Will he be leaving?
He probably won't be back because of money and offensive scheme (he would probably have to take a back seat to becoming a pass first team and not just play action).
Your idea of what a coach is or does is wildly inaccurate. You act like this guy won multiple SuperBowls. Vrabel seems to have been an incredibly petty individual. No wonder he didn't like transparency.Double digit losing seasons in a row. 1 for 9 in his last 10 AFC South games. Unable or unwilling to develop young talent. Hires bad coordinators. Won only 2 playoff games his first 2 years. Unwilling to modernize his team. Yeah it was time for him to go. Vrabel joins Matt Nagy, Ron Rivera, and Jason Garrett as recent Coach of the Year winners relieved of their duties as HC a few seasons later.
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I am pretty sure this will not be the case as I remember all those drive stalls because DH would be tackled in the back field (running too much on 1st down) and lack of attacking down field too much.
Please are you people blind? I've lived in Tennessee for 40 years straight and followed the Titans from the beginning. This dude is not the answer nor is he even good at the job.
Is Joe Alt a RT? Cause I know the Chargers have Rashawn Slater who plays LT. Also, I agree with that the Titans are done. I understand that they fired Vrabel but at the same time, are there any candidates who would be attracted to a job where they will no longer have Derick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins is very likely leaving, and one of the worst offensive lines in football? If anything I’d say they should hire Mike MacDonald from the Ravens just cause they have that Dline led by Jeffrey Simmons, Harold Landry, and Denico Autry.
Supposedly the owner made up her mind when the Titans lost at home to the Texans. Ironic, because they wore the old Houston colors and they got embarrassed for it, god I love being a Texans fan this season.
@@truehype It's actually not a small factor, there was a report today detailing that the loss at home to the Texans sealed the deal. She was infuriated by then and wasn't changing her mind.
@@OkagaCalifornia I think even if he won that as well as the last game it wouldn't have mattered as Mrs. Amy said the next HC has to have the ability to assemble a staff which negated all of the positive points that Vrabel had. The Ran hire was the right hire due to his embrace of analytics/scouting background to which Vrabel's guy was at a disadvantage and was another larger point (Thinking Ran wasn't ready and if hired should be the assistant GM) still not the largest but still larger than the Oilers uni loss to the Texans which was small but not as large as the Pats Hall of Fame speech which even that which is in itself was still pretty small.
It has been a while since the Brown trade. i guess the Titans just felt it was time to do something really dumb again. This is going to be the wildest coaching silly season in a while. Titans just keep shooting themselves in the foot.
There are rumors they want to completely rebuild, I get letting vrabel go. But letting him go for nothing idiotic, he could’ve gone for a couple top picks. But then again this is the team that traded A.J brown because they didn’t wanna pay him, so titans gonna titan.
Trading him away would have taken a long time, and the Titans didn't want to miss out on some of the best Coaching candidates. It's important to consider what's best for the team: settling for a bad coach and only getting 1-2 day 2 picks, or finding a good coach and keeping all the picks you already have? The Titans faced a tough decision when considering whether to trade their coach. It's unlikely that any team would've traded a top 20 pick for a coach with two streigth losing seasons. The Titans also have the option to trade some players, like Treylon Burks or Caleb Farley, to gain more draft capital.
@@xdaroma they’re the Tennessee Titans though not exactly a hotspot for any talented football minds. They’ve always kind of existed, not good or smart enough to be a dominant small market team like Baltimore but not incompetent enough to be so bad they’re talked about like Cleveland or Jacksonville
@@xdaromayou have to keep TB because you will not get anything outside of a day 3 pick out of him now and in year three with a more pass heavy offense he would potentially get more and better looks and be a three or four WR in the worst case scenario.
@@SirskiMulaI'm not so sure about that as you always had the chance of getting your feelings hurt playing the Titans for years now and we have till this year have good defensive fronts and the smart guys in the league have enough commentary on this very fact even when we weren't getting as many wins in the Ken Wiz. days.
You can’t just Trade a coach like a player the way their contract is set up they have to agree to it. Then you have to satisfy the Rooney rule on both sides etc which would take a while.
There are certainly worse teams to be the head coach of than the Panthers and Titans… Sure, it’s not great but there is certainly some hope to work with; Bryce Young was the 1st overall pick for a reason and the Panthers defense has a lot of young talent on it… the Titans have Will Levis, a couple other young players and some of the most cap space in the league… Team’s like the Saints, Bucs, Raiders, Giants and Broncos literally have nothing… The Saints and Broncos are below average teams with no cap space and no answer at QB while simultaneously eating a large amount of money at that position… The Bucs, Saints and Raiders are aging mediocre teams and the Bucs and Raiders also have no answer at QB and no real chance at making a playoff push (I don’t care that the Bucs are in the playoffs… They barely twerked in)… The Giants have very little talent and a huge amount of money tied to Danny Dimes Being a mid or bad team with nothing at QB is worse than potentially having your guy…
Ive been saying that stupid they let him go for nothing. Yes you might lose out on a great coach, but last time i checked players play on the field not the coach. We need draft picks!!!
Vrabel is a good coach and he can get the most out of a player. Vrabel however was not good at developing his players. People sweep coaching under the rug but I remember when Titan fans were calling for Todd Downing's head for 2 years straight and Tim Kelly wasn't any better. We haven't scored 30 points in quite sometime we had an increase in injuries and penalties and that all comes back to staff. Did Jon RObinson help? no but Vrabel is stubborn and what makes him great also makes him flawed. he should have gotten rid of his staff ages ago, he should have started Levis sooner, why does a roster with so many injuries, have so many healthy scratches? TLDR: It was time, i'm thankful for what he brought to the team and now it's time to move forward
Someone in the Tn recruiting dept needs to go around as many gyms as possible and find the biggest muscled up freaks they can find and build a damn O line.
Head coaches dropping like flies lately. Bill, Pete, Mike all got their walkin papers, with more to come probably. NFL head coach is not a job one can be comfortable in, but i guess they only need it for a couple of seasons and they prolly make enough that they never have to work again. 😅
Vrabel is the best fit coach for the job he just got fired from, their thought process is bonkers unless their plan for next year is to tank for top draft picks
That may sound like a good point but it's actually not, his staff continually was lacking in the last three years and was one the main reasons he's gone now. I truly wish him well and hopefully he can fix this particular deficiency so that he can go to even greater heights.
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They expected Mike to take this team that had no wr a horrible o- line and a defense that was a mess to the playoffs
That’s not why he got fired man.More and more details are emerging that vrabel wasn’t so innocent here.
@@thomasadams9395what'd he do
The usual kept some guys that he probably shouldnt didnt work on a good replacement for OC and having the one side of the ball he supposed to be great at underpreform horribly @basicmeme1040
@@thomasadams9395what details?
And a Rookie QB
The titans were 6-24 the last 30 games, 1-9 in a weak division, was on a 3-game playoff losing streak, averaged 17Pts a game the last 2-years, and Vrabel refused to let go of his terrible coordinators. The mass media is acting like he was Vince Lombardi.
Not only that it seem that every year a lot of players ended up in IR.
Exactly! he was horrible! Levis had a small injury and then he puts him in a game that doesnt matter to us (We were not making playoffs anyways) and get him re injured! @@tokk3n-hj4xg
@@tokk3n-hj4xg What the hell does that have anything to do with it? Did Vrabel purposefully injure them?
@@adamant5550 It 'something that he over sees It has to do a lot with strength and conditioning, the way they practice. Are they playing injured?
I mean they also only had Henry and no defense
As a Titans fan. I agree fully with this move. It was time. Loved what Mike did for us, but we're going in different directions, I wish him luck. Good coach if he has a great roster, not a great developer (especially for offense)
Nah that team is shit stop blaming coaches
Name one coach with a bad roster who has won a Super Bowl. Your standards are insane.
@@adamant5550roster was bad, it was also the most-injured roster in the sport for three straight years, and he never thought to fire the neanderthal running his S&C team.
I understand that firing Vrabel seems like a bad decision. However, he's really more of a high floor and low ceiling coach.
He's only won once in his six years in Tennessee in the playoffs, and that was allowing only 13 points at most and Derrick Henry going for 150+ yards rushing in both playoff games. Every other time, the offense couldn't score more than 20 points even with Henry and AJ amongst other pieces. Furthermore, Tennessee hasn't scored 30+ points in a game in two straight years, a year after being the only team to not do so in 2022. Nate Washington raised a point that Vrabel was too nepotistic, bringing in poor coordinators and S+C staff in Frank Piraino, Todd Downing, Tim Kelly and Craig Aukerman. With all the cap space we have as you mentioned, should Vrabel get a rebuild given his offensive stagnation and peaking in the playoffs? It sucks, but my answer is a begrudging no.
Agreed. It's only an assumption that no other coach would have led this team to the playoffs. Hand on heart, how many of us would have seaid Ryans would take the Texans to the playoffs? Or that Stefansky woud lead the Browns to the playoffs despite a QB carousel and injuries to key players on the offense?
Everyone jumping to Vrabel's defense because he passes the "eye test" meaning he looks like a good coach from a good pedigree. But the results speak for themselves. I dont think the owner and their advisors will take a decision so lightly to fire a 2021 Coach of the Year. However I agree with the video saying they are delusional if they're going to get a new generation Ben Johnson.
I dunno. That's like saying the Colts didn't have good coaching when they kept bumping into the Patriots back in their prime. Yes, I know the Colts did win a superbowl, but the point is that the AFC was stuck dealing with KC juggernaut. Vrabel got the most out of what he had, particularly getting a couple solid season from Tannehill.
That all said, we shall see if he finds success at his next gig.
@J8726 ... and that was 4 years ago.
So you are just going to ignore the shit quarterbacks TN has had his entire time. Not many teams are winning with solely a game manager quarterback and those that do need one hell of a defense like the Ravens did in the aughts.
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The report that came out today outlined it pretty clearly. Vrabel wanted full control over the roster and that never works. He started to make things toxic behind the scenes and he’s an old school coach that refused to adapt and not hire his buddies to his staff. Titans had a bottom tier defense in 3 of 6 seasons and the offense was only good under Arthur Smith. He’s a good coach, but this narrative that the Titans just fired a HOF coach is a little ridiculous. The Titans wanted a more modern approach and Vrabel didn’t want to change his ways.
Carthon’s first draft class was excellent. The team will have probably $85 million in cap space after some cuts. And a premium pick to add an OT or a top WR. It’s a pivotal offseason, but if the Titans do it right, they’ll be set up really well moving forward.
Right, I can tell they've not paid attention to the in house reporting of the titans. As a titans fan, I love this change. I'm tired of seeing Vrabel pick his lackluster buddies as OCs and DCs.
Bullshit. Ran did not draft anyone, it was the previous assistamt GMs with Vrabel.
@@olivierdemesy1579 oh damn you were in the war room?! What else can you tell me since you seem to know everything that happened behind the scenes. So AAS let the previous assistant GMs make the picks ahead of the new GM right before she was going to let them go. Brilliant statement.
As a titans fan I think you might be overblowing it a bit. Five of our losses this year came by one score, something the panthers certainly can’t say, and those losses were mainly the fault of poor offensive play calling. This is mostly due to Vrabel himself because he’s quite notorious for being stubborn and unwilling to fire his offensive coordinators, who tend to be his friends. One of my favorite stats to illustrate this is that we haven’t scores 30 points in almost 4 years since 2020. Our offense has been CRIPPLED by horrible play calling, and for one of those years we had AJ Brown and a Prime Derrick Henry.
Vrabel was a nice change of scenery but he was unwilling to change and needed to go if the team was gonna keep its head above water, something Amy Adams herself said. The only real mistake we did was not shopping him but I think that was professional courtesy by Amy.
Aside from that I think we are a better landing spot than the chargers or falcons for guys like Ben Johnson or Harbaugh, not lest because we beat both of those teams but also because we have 100+ million in cap space and a relatively mid tier roster.
Our biggest concerns are the O-line, Receivers, Corners, and Safeties. The o Line will have to come down to the draft and we can probably sign Higgins and another good recover without biting to much into our space, while saving the rest to pump up the secondary. Essentially there’s a lot of room for improvement where we need it outside of just this years draft where we still have a top pick to go after a solid blocker, if we don’t trade it to move up. Also if the game Levi’s had in Miami didn’t convince you that he had potential I genuinely don’t know what will. The kid has gusto and confidence that you rarely see in a rookie and he did all of that with a less than talented offensive system, something CJ Stroud can’t say, and should be illustrated by the fact that 5 of our losses were by one score.
Essentially, if we could get a solid offensively minded coach and spend the offseason well we could easily be a playoff team next year with even just minimal improvements to the roster, something that can’t really be said for the commanders or chargers in their divisions. We’re in a good spot to compete we just need a better system and some good additions that I think ran can pull off, especially since he’s already sent for Ben Johnson and has personal connections to Harbaugh from his time in San Francisco.
This, everyone here is acting like he was a god, and yes maybe there aren't better COACHES than Vrabel, but there are definitely better FITS in Nashville. Vrabel might be a superior coach, but there's head coaching candidates that will work better with the Titans than Vrabel. It's a Win-win on both sides.
Comparing Levis and Stroud is wild. Also again what happened to CJ stepping into the worst situation of any rookie QB?
Tee Higgins makes sense for all AFC south teams lol
As a titans fan I love Vrabel and what he did for this team in 2018. He was an answer but we needed a change of scenery, he is a good coach but he's stubborn and not willing to make changes and not just run the ball 150 times a game. I will miss him and I appreciate what he did for this team, but this is a good thing for the titans as a whole. Hopefully we have something for a new head coach to work with so that more coaches are interested in joining our team, which we do.
Team has Derrick Henry
Fans: "Why are we running the ball"
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Heres the thing, Derrick henry is a god amongst men. I love him, but we cannot solely rely on him. Running backs are no longer bell cows, the problem i had was that we were running the ball way too much. We can run the ball just not 150 times a game. Give him like 15 or 20 attempts and thats fine and use him as a way to wear down defenses not the focal point of how we score points.@@johnchedsey1306
@@johnchedsey1306GM trades away all receiving talent and hasn't 'fixed' QB
Fans; Vrabel needs to pass the ball more 😐
@@johnchedsey1306 Derrick Henry is old now and has lost a step. Also if teams know you're going to run the ball they can stop even Henry in his prime. If you watch Titans games you'll see Henry more often than not get tackled behind the line. I'm so tired of the Titans old ass running playstyle, it's been like this literally the entire Titans history. We really need to get a more modern offense.
The titans didn’t trade Vrabel because it could take months. They can’t get that behind the head market and Vrabel had to sign off on any trade
6:53 But Rome Odunze could still be available. Chances are Brock Bowers could still be on the board. If the Titans aren’t able to get a high OL prospect in this year’s draft, they could still come away with a great receiving prospect.
The Titans loss maybe the Patriots’ gain. While yes Mike Vrabel isn’t the best coach in the NFL and certainly has areas to improve on, I wouldn’t mind if the Pats hired him. I will hope Mike will evolve however.
I wish him the best but this probably isn't going to be the mistake the national commentators think it will be if we get the right coach in place.
Im gonna give you guys a different perspective. Im a Titans fan: this move was necessary. Vrabel just stubborn and loyal. He's really bad at hiring coordinators. He chooses to hire people who have been with him for a long time regardless of qualification. Our team has been injury prone for 3 STRAIGHT YEARS. At some point, thats on our coaching staff. Vrabel took out assistant O-line coach last season and made him head o-line coach, despite our o-line being awful last year. Our secondary has been horrid for many years, and Vrabel is a defensive guy. Im not saying hes a bad coach, but we had to move on from him. We need an offensive minded coach to help develop Levis
That's one of the few outside staff positions his whole entire time here I give him credit for going and getting from Washington regardless of results but the talent was really lacking in that secondary group (but they showed fight in spots especially red zone D/the last game) even for that coach in Chris Harris.
I love how all the analysts out there are saying that if a team does not get one of the top two rated guys in the draft then they can't get better. How many highly ranked QBs and recievers have been busts over the last few drafts and how many solid performers have proven thier worth.
Would love to see an in-depth look at the Jets like this. As a fan, there was so much hope coming into this year, but now they are just stuck until Rodgers is done and they can clean house. This is the most clueless that I have felt on what they are going to do and where they stand as a fan for 20 years.
Soon Jack, soon
Reactions from drafts clearly show that MV wasn't very involved in the final picks they made
Exactly! 'As long as I'm head coach I'm going to want AJ Brown here!' 'Oh, well, your GM just traded him for picks..' "WHAT?!'
Uhhh, he looked like he was crowned king of the world when they drafted Malik Willis... And he is possibly the worst QB in NFL history
I may I would be pissed to if I just traded away at one of our best players to literally draft the same position and pray, he as good as AJ Brown like does this team realize their quarterback was Ryan Tannehill literally keep your weapons
@@A_Name_I still genuinely like the Malik pick. He ended up being ass, but we wasted 1 of our 3 third rounders on him, and there’s no way Robinson would’ve drafted someone good with that pick. Malik’s ceiling was incredibly high, just turns out he couldn’t live up to it.
I believe the reason we made this move was the fact that AAS knows we are never going to win a superbowl with a team or coach like this. A youthful, offensive mind who can give a fresh perspective to the staff and locker room can do wonders for this franchise. AAS knows we have to play a more offensive and passing style game and a feisty team that plays ugly football won’t win anything in the modern day NFP
Not sure why they thought this was a good idea, but I sure as hell hope the patriots jump on the opportunity
once again, vrabes is a good coach. what he wants and what we need just don't match up anymore. we needed to blow this team up after we lost to the bengals, but vrabes wanted to keep on contending (why we signed d hop) and we just can't do that anymore. we need a reset and it doesn't help when he and the front office didn't hit on draft picks often (caleb farley) and didn't fill in the holes we had. also hiring in house so much, todd downing should've never got the oc job. i wish him the best, but if you couldn't see this coming then i don't know what to tell you
As you admit, the Titans are in a full rebuild with a GM who has a different philosophy (SF) than Vrabel did (NE). It makes sense to change coaches at this point to me.
I think is kind of a blessing for mike because that firing just continues to prove how much of a dumpster fire that front office is and he can finally be set free and get a roster he can win with
It’d be nice to see the Seahawks bring him in.
Sure, keep thinking that….. he has commanded a team that has been on a steady decline for 2.5 years. Get real.
@@nashvegas4476 get real 🤓🤓
I think only the people that have been watching the games week in and week out are the only ones defending this decision. I'm 100% fine with it. He looks great on paper, on tv, he's got swagger, but that just isn't translating to the WINS column. I know the players like him, but their loosing, I'll bet they'd like winning more.
Also, how many penalties on 3 and no fucking way in hell did we give up this year? How many penalties turned the the game, kept a drive going? how vanilla of an offense can you have and expect to win?
I'd trade vrabes for bill in a freaking heartbeat.. bill come show the world Tom isn't the only one that can win elsewhere!!!@@nashvegas4476
Mike Vrabel would be a big improvement over Arthur Smith..I'll bet he could take the Falcons to the playoffs. At least let me dream.
I don't think underachiving is the sole reason for firing Vrabel and this isn't that obvious. And that's why it looks strange if you don't watch it closely. Vrabel didn't seem to be on the same page than his GM or Team Owner, and the relation between Vrabel and the owner was deteriorating. If you unpack all this, the firing starts to make sense.
Yeah, because Mike trying to win and it’s obvious the Titans are clearly trying to lose
@@dsbeats5657 trying to win with Ryan Tannehill when you can trade him and get draft capital for a rebuild is not the best decision for example
I have a lot of friends that are titans fans so I keep up with the team the almost as much as I keep up with my Chiefs. From a coaching standpoint Vrabel is great, but anyone who watches their games can tell that poor offensive play calling hurts their teams success. I understand the lack of talent on the team, but Vrabel being stubborn & not firing his offensive coordinators never helped either. Scheming your offense can help when a team lacks talent, sure it doesn't solve all the problem but it makes it much easier. Since he became the HC for the Titans they have had a bottom 3 scheme, the difference is he had AJ Brown & Prime King Henry to help hide it, but now with a lackluster roster it is a disaster
If they got Tee Higgins & KJ Osborn and Joe Alt I would be very happy.. Titan UP
Solid analysis. Hard to blame you for the bad takes on Vrabel's worth, the Titans' desirability from a long-term standpoint, or the idea that we would spend the few resources we have trading up to any spot this year, as these were mostly league-wide opinions at the time. Would be interested to hear if or how your outlook on them has changed with the widely overlooked staff Carthon/Callahan have put together and after Vrabs did not get a HC job. (Still a little salty about that because we got absolutely slandered by national media for a full week until BB was fired, all the HC openings were filled while Vrabel was left jobless, and everyone went back to ignoring us, but par for the course lol)
I’m fine with them firing Vrabel. I’m not saying I like the move but I’m fine with it. It was time to do a rebuild with this team. And Vrabel while I think is a good coach might not even survive that rebuild whether his decision or ownership due to the losses. Get a different guy in there and who he likes and what system works for him. It’s a restart and no Henry no Tanehill no Byard this is just a different team now.
I don't think its a "big mistake", our owner has a solid history hiring the right people (JROB looked promising too after the 2019 Draft). We have a promising second year GM with a pretty solid first Draft:
1. Skoronski=starter LG and probably LT if we don't get one of Fashanu or Alt
2. Levis= looked pretty good when he had time to throw the ball(worst Oline according to PFF)
3. Spears= RB1 just needs another RB to complement him like Ray Davis🔥 from Kentucky
Just because he's a good coach does not mean he's the right coach.
Playing Old School Football and being bad at it while thinking there's no need to change anything in season, is just horrible.
Yes he had a pretty bad roster because JROB had just one good Draft and overpaid almost every Free Agent he brought in, but Vrabels Staff hirings and roster decisions were horrible too, I mean why did he refuse to play his best Wide Receivers just because their not playing good on Special Teams?! I just think its time for a new Vision and I believe in Ran Carthon and Amy Adams Strunk to hire the right coach.
yea i get firing vrabel is such a gamble but idk why people are acting like vrabel was bill belichick lmao yea our team is was bad but past 3 season vrabel has hired some bad ocs and was underwhelming with defense was it all his fault no. we don't owe vrabel anything people are so delusional they forget vrabel inherited a playoff team who literally beat the chefs the season before he became hc
Even hiring Vrabel looked strange at the time when the whole roster backed Mularkey but Amy had the guts to fire him rather than being eluded by one fluky playoff appearance. She is not perfect and made her mistakes but I trust her.
There's A LOT more internal stuff that went on. And actual Titans fans knew this could be coming
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Braelon Allen out of Wisconsin would be a great Derrick Henry replacement for this team. He is 6 ft 2 and 240 lbs with good speed. He will only be 20 his rookie year so plenty of years before wear and tear kicks in.
I personally think it would be best to address the #2 possibly #3 backs in FA and wait till next year to use draft capital on a RB unless you get some crazy value in the draft like a full two to three round fall because of no fault to the player at all.
You’re right, the Titans don’t have that luxury as they have other needs. Just wanted to point out how good of a fit it would be.
Bringing in both Osbourne & Higgins makes way more sense than just Higgins alone. I just saw an updated mock draft and it has Alt getting picked by Tennessee. Also who would coach the Titans?
Here's a list of possibilities...
Eric Bieniemy
Ben Johnson
Josh McDaniels (I'm joking)
Jerod Mayo
Brian Flores
Vic Fangio
Rich Bisaccia
I think Ben Johnson, Bobby Slowik, Frank Smith and Brian Callahan in that order would be good. I'm not sure about Bieniemy because of past issues with players which might be a future issue not to mention he refused the OC interview last year for TN and sometimes that doesn't bode well.
Seahawks is also a better coaching situation. We have a good LT in Charles Cross, and offensive weapons in DK Metcalf, Lockett, JSN, and Walker.
a huge determining factor for vrabel being fired was due to the titans owner being upset about the fact that they lost to the texans while wearing the oilers uniforms.
im not joking you can look it up.
look it up where...
can you paste the source?
That probably was a factor but were talking death by 1000 cuts with all the stuff including his Pats hall of Fame speech about how it's not like this everywhere to which you got to know that some people wouldn't take kind to some of that and this is coming from a Titans fan who really didn't care.
@@dreamer5687There's an article by Diana Russini and another reporter (via the Athletic) which does a great job of putting things together on this one like the power play Vrabel tried for along with not hiring Ran and if they did hire him he would be the assistant GM.
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NPF was actually the starting LT once he came back from suspension. Dillard was his backup until NPF hot hurt again.
Heard how Vrabel conducted himself at his Pats HOF speech played a role in his firing.
Maybe now he can go to a team that will work with him better. His tenure with the Titans was tainted forever when they traded AJ Brown.
In my honest fan opinion, fuck Mike Vrabel. He’s a good to great coach and knew how to led the charge. But he is so damn stubborn about never changing his staff or firing his best friends and colleagues from Ohio State and the Patriots tree line. For the past three years, the offense has been a complete blunder of issues. Yes Jon Robinson traded AJ Brown. Even if we traded or didn’t trade AJ Brown, Vrabel time was unfortunately coming to end sooner than later. Our new GM may of had issues with Vrabel but our controlling owner wanted Vrabel for years to come, but Vrabel’s issue with never evolving or creating a better team dynamic on both sides of the field definitely hurt his reputation. He’s not a HOF coach.
🙎 Vrabel's recent Defenses were poor-to-mediocre, and he bears some responsibility for failing to improve it inexpensively through recent drafts (only 3 out of the 15 2022 and 2023 draft picks were Defensive players - a 2nd rounder and two 6th rounders).
Crazy how this guy turned out to be another Jeff Fisher.
I say that with no disrespect. I love(d) Jeff Fisher's mindset as i love Vrabel's, but they are both too stubborn.
Everyone thinking he was fired for football related performance is 💯 wrong. He was fired because he demanded a certain organizational structure and complete control over the roster (basically the GM) and wanted someone implemented who could veto a decision by the GM if he didn't agree with it. It had nothing to do with performance. He also said some things that rubbed the organization the wrong way. It's much deeper.
Here in Seattle, I would welcome Vrabel, A.J. Brown, Arden Key... Jeffrey Simmons... bring coach AND his best players (I know Brown is in Philly now, work with me here). Heck, if Derrick Henry wants to come, come on up!
I think drafting 7 will still get them a preminum level player. Sure some of the bigger names will be gone, but with teams being QB hungry, someone will go up and get one. With so many holes to fill, they should trade back for more picks, get the 3rd of 4th rated LT and WR, a few free agent signings and it can work. Not sure why they left Mike go, I would love for them to get a new OC and let Mike coach the team.
If the top two LT's are off the board you get Malik Neighbors who would be WR 1 in most other drafts and was the most productive receiver in college last year and is a home run waiting to happen as well as a yards after catch machine I like Rome too but you never ever pass on a player like that if you have a chance at them, look what Jamar Chase did for Joe Burrow and imagine a WR that can win anywhere on the field with Levis's arm talents.
Can you make a Supercut Edition of all of the teams? That would be awesome. If possible, either way I enjoy these videos.
As a ravens fan I’m glad he’s out and hope he finds a coaching gig in the nfc. Tho the
Patriots opening looks like the most likely spot for him
They did Vrabel a favour really. His stock is high and will not be dragged down by the crapshoot next year will be for them.
I doubt it will be a crap shoot in the slightest.
Only time will tell if this will be a disaster or not, our new GM is in full control now wonder what he can do
As a chargers fan, the general consensus is Nabers or Bowers (unless MHJ somehow drops to us)
Hote Take: Cardinals draft MHJ and go 10-7 next year.
Very well could happen. Cardinals are not as bad as people think, they played a lot of close games this season.
Gannon made it very obvious that the defense could clamp up a bit better if he wanted it to after Marco Wilson's benching, just he preferred the tank over going 7-10
As a Hawks fan, I am preparing for the Cardinals to go from annoying to a legit threat in the division
I think the Cardinals are a sneakily good team next year, especially if they get some more weapons for Kyler but in my opinion, they got a fix up that defense first they’re just so lacking in talent
@@dsbeats5657 it's MHJ or trade down to the highest bidder if he ain't there. And probably trade up for Jer'Zhan Newton too since he's the only Blue chip DT and this team has ZERO DTs
Im excited for a change from Vrabel, Titans need to get better on offense and hire offensive minded coach and new staff. Surround Levis with talent in O Line and WR and see how he develops. Commit to the rebuild and a change in offensive scheme and playcalling could do wonders.
Love yours videos, great analysis. Hope for a packers analysis soon
Thank you! Playoff team videos will be out after their elimination (or after the Super Bowl if they are to go that far)
It's almost like Tennessee did the same mistakes Houston did they didn't improve or try to build on from what the had gone on this off-season is very very important they got to bring in the pieces all round starting with the head coach
Build up the o line first if you can't do that this season don't get Will hurt and build up the defense
Exactly national media did no research
I agree that only CAR is a worst situation for a HC
I think they fired him before the Jags game obviously. They just let him finish off one more game. And the obvious chant of GM ruined everything
That wasn't the case at all
@7:30 mike vrable was the one who pounded the table for Dillard... Then refused to even try Skronski at LT after dillard and a 6th round rookie had combined for like 25sacks.
Vrable was a good coach but nothing on the level the rest of the nfl keeps making him out to be.
As for the titans not trading him if they waited a month for the patriots to go through the interview process and then work out a deal they likely miss out on getting a coach they want and have to settle. Is a 2nd round pick worth having to take your 2nd 3rd maybe 4th choice for headcoach?
This was a very lazy take on the Titans. The Titans can be a much better team with just a mediocre head coach even. Vrabel is not this great coach that everyone thinks he is. He inherited a playoff team and rode the coattail of Derrick and AJ. He also single handedly cost the Titans the first shot at a super bowl since 1999. (He stole defensive play calling from Dean Pees will up three scores on KC in the AFCCG) Whoever hires Vrabel will likely be incredibly disappointed when they are a 9-8, 10-7 team at best.
Less than 2 weeks later they are hiring bengals OC Brian Callahan to work with Levis and company
It is pretty funny to know that the Titans fired Vrabel on a year of offensive woes. Yes, offensive woes. Vrabel is a defensive game manager and the Titans allowed >30 points only twice this season. One to a fully healthy Jaguars team, one to an OT game against the red hot Colts. His team did not allow 30+ points from teams like: Healthy Burrow Bengals, the Dolphins, the Texans, or the Ravens, which are very good signs. Most of the top coaches are also offensive... Who probably aren't going to want to touch the dumpster fire that is the Titans offense. They'll accept it over the Panthers, likely, but the Johnsons, Harbaugh, and Slowik for some offensive names are not going to want to really accept that job over the Patriots, Seahawks, Chargers, Falcons, Commanders or staying put where they are to be honest. Anarumo, or Evero (if Panthers can't bar him from signing as a HC) might be two of the only guys they can really get and see if they can keep the Titans defense as good as it has been.
Mike Vrabel was becoming Jeff Fisher 2.0 in terms of not adjusting to your personnel and just letting your ego be in the way to really evaluate players and how to motivate someone you don't see eye to eye. Jon Robinson left quite a mess personnel wise (missing on high draft picks and the AJ Brown trade) but Vrabel's choice of coordinators was his downfall along with player development from him and his coordinators and trainers.
Goodbye also to his 3 yards and cloud of dust offense for which he inherited of a prime Derrick Henry to make it work, for which, he was one really successful playoff run. Since that playoff run in 2019 and both coordinators gone, the play calling has regressed a lot and he was simply in the way of a much needed FULL rebuild. If it was up to him, Tannehill would still be penciled as a starting Qb over Levis...
He's still a good coach, great motivator, no nonsense approach and will get an offer down the road but in the meanwhile, he will need to choose his coordinators better before asking GM and personnel decision. Also work better with players that don't see eye to eye with him, very rare you will have all 53 players loving you, all you want is respect on both sides...A lot of mixed reviews from former players since the 2019 playoff run
Vrabel will be missed and Thankful for him …he tried to run the 1960 offense run run pass scheme , he always said 3rd and manageable … but little does he know he can get first downs on 1st down … he tried to run down the clock and play bend but don’t break defense…the titans are just trying to build a new scheme of the newer age of nfl football and not playing old school style and keep games low scoring and one scoring …it’s like we don’t try to score ..we chew clock and kick field goals
I like the effort to cover the situation but none of you care about the Titans. When have you ever talked about the Titans before this. The coaching has been up and down for all season. I watch every damn game, and I think vrabel is a good coach, he is just that. Smash Mouth football doesn't work anymore. He does not change up his gameplan ever. We have not scored 30 points in almost a 3rd calander year!! The terrible panthers even scored 30 points this year. Every time we go to the playoffs, ofc the outlier being 2019, we are always first out. Something had to change, the Vrabel era is now over. And I dont want to hear that he was the coach of the year two years ago, because in reference, Ron Rivera has won COY (who he himself was out on the job two years later) and so has Jason Garret!I love vrabel and he is a good coach but this is now a new era for the direction of the team
I am so fucking sad at the Titan's position, but I wish both Vrabs and Henry all the best. I just hope to hell we don't shit the bed in the draft. Our coaching pick and draft are the two things we have to get right if we even want to make it to .500 in 24.
Vrabel did NOT get fired solely because of the team's performance. He got fired because the owner and himself were at odds. A lot of information has come out since his firing on Tuesday. Vrabel got himself fired. People acting like he is one of the greatest coaches of all time. He's a good coach, but not the right coach for a rebuilding team. Great coaches find a way to win playoff games (Titans are on a 3 game losing streak in the playoffs). Mike Tomlin took a bad roster with a bad QB to a 10-7 record and a playoff appearance. That's a great coach. Vrabel is not that guy.
This take is definitely overblown, and I (again) find your research on the Titans lacking. It sounds like you superficially scanned the Titans obvious shortcomings; and then overweighed the draft potentialities, the landscape of OTHER teams, and other OUTSIDE factors; instead of examining the team’s internal circumstances or what has been going on in Nashville. Most fans who’ve actually watched the games week in week out for years are indifferent/fine-to-happy with letting Vrabel go, and don’t think we are as far from being a playoff team as you seem to think. Certainly this move cannot possibly hurt as as much as you seem to insinuate. And Will Levis is most DEFINITELY, absolutely, the guy.
Bro I love your videos and I’ve followed you when you first started. I think you should get a chance to be an analyst somewhere.
Being a titans fan, a few things NEED to happen. 1: draft best player available, I’m hoping Brock bowers is available 2. Free agency this year is key, we have cap space. Sign tee Higgins or even replace Henry with saquon Barkley. We need good players for Levi’s. Use the back half of the draft to build o line and cornerbacks. Thoughts?
Lol I appreciate that Adam I thought your comment was going somewhere else entirely
I would love Bowers on TEN, but I don't think the positional value will align with them at 7.
Tee Higgins going to TEN would be huge this offseason and I really hope it happens for them
Pete Carroll does have a history of developing QBs and winning. It wouldn’t surprise me if the titans are dense enough to hire him
We wouldn't even go that direction even if he was available, he's 72. He's also taking a front advisor/consultant role with the Seahawks.
I really dont get what they are doing.
First they trade off AJ Brown after a season where they got the AFC #1 seed. But then when they are clearly bad they refuse to trade Henry so now he goes for free. And finally they fire probably the best part of their team, Vrabel??
For real I don’t understand if they were going to rebuild. Wouldn’t you’ve gotten rid of everybody because Derrick Henry literally got them at least two wins this year by himself. Wouldn’t you’ve traded that guy I mean they traded Kevin Byard they traded AJ Brown why wouldn’t you trade your last remaining good piece I feel like they just didn’t know what they’re doing and it didn’t have a real clear direction of whether they wanted to fully rebuild
@@dsbeats5657 Oh yeah I forgot about Byard! That makes it even more obvious to trade Henry especially since he was on his last year anyway!
If I was a coach or a free agent I would steer way clear of the Titans... There's nothing more scary than an org which either doesnt have a plan or is afraid to cut their star player due to possible backlash of their casual fans
Can you do the Atlanta Falcons next ?
Back to Back seasons with 10 or more losses and acting like the coaches are blameless is ridiculous. Yeah the roster sucks but so does Vrabel's buddies on his staff
Looking forward to the Chicago Bears video
It looks like the Titans are in NFL mediocre hell. They aren't good enough to make a serious run in the playoffs (if they even make it) and they aren't bad enough to get a good draft pick. Gotta make a change if you want a different outcome. Not to say that the outcome will be better, just different.
Exactly. The other years he went to the playoffs besides that fluke run saw offensive stagnation where his defense allowed at most 20 points, and he lost both of them. Furthermore, would any team take a coach that hasn't scored 30 points or more in two consecutive seasons?
Yeah, I don’t understand why this team kept Henry if they were gonna trade not only younger, but more valuable position players on their teams in AJ, Brown and Kevin Byard I think the scheme just clearly didn’t have a direction and it’s evident I mean I still don’t understand why they signed DeAndre Hopkins for literally $7 million less than AJ Brown I think this team is just ran by idiots because if you were gonna take at least get rid of 😊Henry a guy that’s gonna get your team wins
You have a promising young QB, a decent enough draft position and the second most cap space. The Titans in one to 1 1/2 seasons will be absolutely fine.
Very smart breakdown and solution to this team. Get a Top Lineman, a good WR, and you will find out how the real Will Levis. You didnt mention D Henry. Will he be leaving?
He probably won't be back because of money and offensive scheme (he would probably have to take a back seat to becoming a pass first team and not just play action).
Vrabel would have been fired on any NFL team with his record. They lost 7 games in a row last year.
Your idea of what a coach is or does is wildly inaccurate. You act like this guy won multiple SuperBowls.
Vrabel seems to have been an incredibly petty individual. No wonder he didn't like transparency.Double digit losing seasons in a row.
1 for 9 in his last 10 AFC South games.
Unable or unwilling to develop young talent.
Hires bad coordinators.
Won only 2 playoff games his first 2 years.
Unwilling to modernize his team.
Yeah it was time for him to go.
Vrabel joins Matt Nagy, Ron Rivera, and Jason Garrett as recent Coach of the Year winners relieved of their duties as HC a few seasons later.
Anyone who watches Titans football knows these things.
I like this channel so much more than the click bait channels like black and white. You just tell us what's up they just have click bait titles and 4 videos a day, obviously that's their hustle. Quantity overall quality sucks. This is just better. Keep it up.
Thank you Tim! Quality > quantity! I am aligning next weeks videos now and will be working on the scripts over the weekend!
So is this years draft very offensively stacked then? Are the defensive prospects mid, or are they just being overshadowed by the offensive ones?
There's several prospects in this draft offensively that are the best at their position in a couple of years, yes
As a casual fan, you highlighted all of my concerns. Worst decision possible this offseason.
I am pretty sure this will not be the case as I remember all those drive stalls because DH would be tackled in the back field (running too much on 1st down) and lack of attacking down field too much.
Please are you people blind? I've lived in Tennessee for 40 years straight and followed the Titans from the beginning. This dude is not the answer nor is he even good at the job.
Is Joe Alt a RT? Cause I know the Chargers have Rashawn Slater who plays LT. Also, I agree with that the Titans are done. I understand that they fired Vrabel but at the same time, are there any candidates who would be attracted to a job where they will no longer have Derick Henry, DeAndre Hopkins is very likely leaving, and one of the worst offensive lines in football? If anything I’d say they should hire Mike MacDonald from the Ravens just cause they have that Dline led by Jeffrey Simmons, Harold Landry, and Denico Autry.
Supposedly the owner made up her mind when the Titans lost at home to the Texans. Ironic, because they wore the old Houston colors and they got embarrassed for it, god I love being a Texans fan this season.
That was more than likely a smaller factor than some make it out to be and this whole situation turned into death by 1000 cuts in the end.
@@truehype It's actually not a small factor, there was a report today detailing that the loss at home to the Texans sealed the deal. She was infuriated by then and wasn't changing her mind.
@@OkagaCalifornia I think even if he won that as well as the last game it wouldn't have mattered as Mrs. Amy said the next HC has to have the ability to assemble a staff which negated all of the positive points that Vrabel had.
The Ran hire was the right hire due to his embrace of analytics/scouting background to which Vrabel's guy was at a disadvantage and was another larger point (Thinking Ran wasn't ready and if hired should be the assistant GM) still not the largest but still larger than the Oilers uni loss to the Texans which was small but not as large as the Pats Hall of Fame speech which even that which is in itself was still pretty small.
I think Mike and the Titans mutually parted ways. Doubt he wanted to go into rebuild mode
It has been a while since the Brown trade. i guess the Titans just felt it was time to do something really dumb again. This is going to be the wildest coaching silly season in a while. Titans just keep shooting themselves in the foot.
I don't think your words will prove to be correct on this particular topic.
There are rumors they want to completely rebuild, I get letting vrabel go. But letting him go for nothing idiotic, he could’ve gone for a couple top picks. But then again this is the team that traded A.J brown because they didn’t wanna pay him, so titans gonna titan.
Trading him away would have taken a long time, and the Titans didn't want to miss out on some of the best Coaching candidates. It's important to consider what's best for the team: settling for a bad coach and only getting 1-2 day 2 picks, or finding a good coach and keeping all the picks you already have? The Titans faced a tough decision when considering whether to trade their coach. It's unlikely that any team would've traded a top 20 pick for a coach with two streigth losing seasons. The Titans also have the option to trade some players, like Treylon Burks or Caleb Farley, to gain more draft capital.
@@xdaroma they’re the Tennessee Titans though not exactly a hotspot for any talented football minds. They’ve always kind of existed, not good or smart enough to be a dominant small market team like Baltimore but not incompetent enough to be so bad they’re talked about like Cleveland or Jacksonville
@@xdaromayou have to keep TB because you will not get anything outside of a day 3 pick out of him now and in year three with a more pass heavy offense he would potentially get more and better looks and be a three or four WR in the worst case scenario.
@@SirskiMulaI'm not so sure about that as you always had the chance of getting your feelings hurt playing the Titans for years now and we have till this year have good defensive fronts and the smart guys in the league have enough commentary on this very fact even when we weren't getting as many wins in the Ken Wiz. days.
You can’t just Trade a coach like a player the way their contract is set up they have to agree to it. Then you have to satisfy the Rooney rule on both sides etc which would take a while.
There are certainly worse teams to be the head coach of than the Panthers and Titans… Sure, it’s not great but there is certainly some hope to work with; Bryce Young was the 1st overall pick for a reason and the Panthers defense has a lot of young talent on it… the Titans have Will Levis, a couple other young players and some of the most cap space in the league…
Team’s like the Saints, Bucs, Raiders, Giants and Broncos literally have nothing… The Saints and Broncos are below average teams with no cap space and no answer at QB while simultaneously eating a large amount of money at that position… The Bucs, Saints and Raiders are aging mediocre teams and the Bucs and Raiders also have no answer at QB and no real chance at making a playoff push (I don’t care that the Bucs are in the playoffs… They barely twerked in)… The Giants have very little talent and a huge amount of money tied to Danny Dimes
Being a mid or bad team with nothing at QB is worse than potentially having your guy…
Video about what Carolina should do?
Soon
In case anyone doesn’t understand how mid the titans offense was/is, just hop on madden and play only defence
Ive been saying that stupid they let him go for nothing. Yes you might lose out on a great coach, but last time i checked players play on the field not the coach. We need draft picks!!!
I watched Richardson live against the Rams and nearly fell out of my seat when I saw him throw
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Vrabel is a good coach and he can get the most out of a player. Vrabel however was not good at developing his players. People sweep coaching under the rug but I remember when Titan fans were calling for Todd Downing's head for 2 years straight and Tim Kelly wasn't any better. We haven't scored 30 points in quite sometime we had an increase in injuries and penalties and that all comes back to staff. Did Jon RObinson help? no but Vrabel is stubborn and what makes him great also makes him flawed. he should have gotten rid of his staff ages ago, he should have started Levis sooner, why does a roster with so many injuries, have so many healthy scratches?
TLDR: It was time, i'm thankful for what he brought to the team and now it's time to move forward
It was time to be honest. He had way too much power and the titans needed a full reset. Mike Vabrel ain’t really all that
Someone in the Tn recruiting dept needs to go around as many gyms as possible and find the biggest muscled up freaks they can find and build a damn O line.
Head coaches dropping like flies lately. Bill, Pete, Mike all got their walkin papers, with more to come probably.
NFL head coach is not a job one can be comfortable in, but i guess they only need it for a couple of seasons and they prolly make enough that they never have to work again. 😅
Vrabel is the best fit coach for the job he just got fired from, their thought process is bonkers unless their plan for next year is to tank for top draft picks
That may sound like a good point but it's actually not, his staff continually was lacking in the last three years and was one the main reasons he's gone now.
I truly wish him well and hopefully he can fix this particular deficiency so that he can go to even greater heights.
Will be interesting to see how this video ages.
New head coach for the Patriots!
I predict that Mike Vrabel will become the next head coach of the New England Patriots.
Not really going to look like Nostradamus on this one.
Hey Vrable, I guess we could take you for head coach 😂