Thanks very much for this Sarah. It helped me a great deal. I learned the Swan by ear but I am trying to learn the Elgar cello concerto at the moment and I don't really read music. I have most of the first page up to the big run up scale and most of the second page but the clefs where a mystery to me. You have given me what I needed I just have to get it into my head. Again many thanks.
omg, thank you so much! my teacher gave me a thumb scale in treble clef and we ran out of time so I was unable to figure out what was a whole step and what was a half step. I was freaking out because i get really stressed about not understanding somethine I am expected to know. thank you!
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
The trumpet plays on the treble clef and the trombone on the F clef. So, the second finger on the A string is the middle C on the cello. Playing the treble clef on the cello is so different from the guitar. I was Expecting a similar pattern. jejejeje
Is there a way of playing violin music on the cello in a different key... So u have the same open strings? So u read what's written for violin in treble and then u play ur cello like it's a violin? Does anyone know?
I mean, you could tune up your strings but you’d need incredible strings so they dont snap. You’d also be playing an octave lower. Realistically you would just have to play in thumb position to play violin music, and with practice it’s not that bad.
I wouldn’t suggest playing the music in a different key because I think that defeats the point of transcribing it because it will sound completely off. So just transcribe it down as many octaves as possible, usually one, but if you can get away with lower, go lower. But there isn’t any good way to avoid playing really high. Just practice the high positions and you’ll get used to it eventually.
so joy...question? understand base ciff but going to middle c and up for trible. that really began at b on the A string second finger. but the trible is all on the A string going down the finger board using thumb postion to get it. correct?
You spelling out the lines made me realise that treble clef is two fifths above tenor clef. For me it seems like the easiest way to learn treble clef is to read the bottom, middle, and top lines as hypothetical E, B, and F(#) strings. You obviously need to account for how the key signature affects the fingerings for that though.
I am returning to cello as a 75 year old! this is a very good refresher lesson. thank you, thank you! I will be looking for your videos.
That's exciting! I wish you well. :)
Thanks very much for this Sarah. It helped me a great deal. I learned the Swan by ear but I am trying to learn the Elgar cello concerto at the moment and I don't really read music. I have most of the first page up to the big run up scale and most of the second page but the clefs where a mystery to me. You have given me what I needed I just have to get it into my head. Again many thanks.
omg, thank you so much!
my teacher gave me a thumb scale in treble clef and we ran out of time so I was unable to figure out what was a whole step and what was a half step. I was freaking out because i get really stressed about not understanding somethine I am expected to know. thank you!
Answers something that I have been wondering about for a while. Thanks. Very helpful. As always :-)
Omg, this is so helpful! I've been wanting to play "Isabella's Lullaby" for so long and now I can finally understand it!
I'm also a Sara Joy and returning to playing cello. This is helpful, thanks!
I recently picked up a piece that involves treble clef and this video is really helpful! Thank you for uploading :)
+NegginandNatasha of course!! Glad it can help. 😊
“This is swan from when I was like 10” ok subtle flex
Such a pleasant lesson! Nice explained :)
Oh good! I'm so glad it was understandable. I was worried about that!
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
@@sarahjoyrecordings If you've ever played Schumann's 5 pieces in folk style there's a so called False treble clef which is really the cello equivalent of an Octave lower Treble Clef.
May I have the download link for the blank staff you used? I have recently been looking for some but to no avail.
www.musictheory.org.uk/pdf/manuscript-12.pdf
Sarah Joy Thank you!
The trumpet plays on the treble clef and the trombone on the F clef. So, the second finger on the A string is the middle C on the cello. Playing the treble clef on the cello is so different from the guitar. I was Expecting a similar pattern. jejejeje
Is there a way of playing violin music on the cello in a different key... So u have the same open strings? So u read what's written for violin in treble and then u play ur cello like it's a violin? Does anyone know?
I mean, you could tune up your strings but you’d need incredible strings so they dont snap. You’d also be playing an octave lower. Realistically you would just have to play in thumb position to play violin music, and with practice it’s not that bad.
I wouldn’t suggest playing the music in a different key because I think that defeats the point of transcribing it because it will sound completely off. So just transcribe it down as many octaves as possible, usually one, but if you can get away with lower, go lower. But there isn’t any good way to avoid playing really high. Just practice the high positions and you’ll get used to it eventually.
Thankyou so much . this really helped.
Awesome! So glad that it could!
This helped me abit cause I never really use treble clef but i still find it hard to understand i guess.
so joy...question? understand base ciff but going to middle c and up for trible. that really began at b on the A string second finger. but the trible is all on the A string going down the finger board using thumb postion to get it. correct?
Terry Vallette yes, exactly that. But you can also play in higher positions on the other three strings to save yourself some shifting.
Very helpful thank you 🦋
Veryyyy helpful :)
I play piano, so I can read treble and bass clef but not tenor clef.
You spelling out the lines made me realise that treble clef is two fifths above tenor clef. For me it seems like the easiest way to learn treble clef is to read the bottom, middle, and top lines as hypothetical E, B, and F(#) strings. You obviously need to account for how the key signature affects the fingerings for that though.
Ha ha, I can read Treble, Alto AND Bass! >:)
Nice 😅👍
"Semi beginner" with reading treble clef and thumb position, mmmmmmmmh :D
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