That last turn seriously caught me off guard. Had no idea how seriously things were getting until the road kept becoming less and less. I can only imagine how much sweat the nads must have felt. Very nice save and amazing build!
Sasha and his team’s knowledge show in the car and the driving. Mind blown as always , this car had come along way since battling for track records at Cayuga over 10 years ago . My hats off to you guys
This is the most bad ass track car ever built. The engineering alone is amazing. On top of that you really leave it all out there when driving. Hopefully next year I can get out to a track event near you to see this thing in person.
Came here from @Turnology and was not disappointed. Have seen this car and Sasha highlighted before on @SpeedAcademy. Wow !!! Awesome!!! Kudos to you and your team. Will keep watching 👍
The regen looks to have caused the slide if the readout is correct, the driver should have a little bit of throttle on, whereas the system was effectively applying brakes to the rear via -40hp regen. Very interesting to watch and incredible control from the driver
Let me first by saying congratulations on the 116.9 seconds around Mosport is like my home track I know it probably better than anyone that is an incredible time especially to track like Mosport which is really quite unforgiving and scary as hell when I first seen the clip saying it was 116 I did not believe it for a second then I watched the video and my God your car is incredible for any car to be doing 116 at mosport is quite savage in my mind. So congratulations guys you definitely put in the hard work and definitely has paid off hats off to you guys!!!
What an absolutely insane car - and an even crazier driver. The fact that some IMSA GTD cars have top speeds in excess of 300km/h and Sasha was able to set a near-pole time here with gearing that seems to top out around 258km/h only serves to make this way more impressive than it already was
You have come a long way! I’m slowly building my car like yours! I finally assembled my VQ37HR and have been driving it for one month! It’s time for c9 cams!
@@MountainPassPerformance are you sure that your diffuser angle is maintaining flow attachment?? The angle is quite extreme even in comparison to the tilton evo and other extreme cars. Did you retake it to the wind tunnel to check? because when u did it didnt have a diffuser as i saw on speed academy
I was watching that too, my guess was under full throttle the charging system output is enough to drive the electric motor AND charge the battery, but under braking it's not and the electric motor is a parasitic loss in these conditions and adding a little extra braking power. I'd assumed the elec motor would be a generator under braking, but for time attack style driving maybe they have all the battery capacity they need and a motor/generator is more complex or expensive? Sasha usually addresses these types of questions though.
I don't want to get overly technical here but the state of charge calculation is based on a few things (including a model of the battery's internal resistance) and they were not calibrated entirely accurately, so the state of charge would trend in the wrong direction at very high current outputs and then become more accurate at lower currents loads.
@@ZMCarsandMore since this thermocouple is tracking internal electric motor temperature, it could only be correlated to engine oil temp as measured at the oil pan, if at all. Since the engine block is provided oil which has just passed through an oil cooler, then in my experience you'd primarily want to know the post cooler temperature reading as well to give you a delta vs the temp in the pan. Sasha probably has multiple oil temp sensors in the system and wouldnt lean on just this one. I really hope he can chime in. Good to know your thought process. Thanks.
That car is something else!!! I assume you have steering angle sensor and 6axis accelerometer, wouldn’t it be beneficial to have reduced engine braking when countersteering? 50 engine braking HO on the rear wheel when going sideways can’t be good. Just an idea, I’m always trying new strategies on my bike.
Would add weight and complexity....no room in front without major surgery. Would probably need to become rear engine. Kel's solution is the most effective from a cost/ performance standpoint.
3:29 looks to have been caused by the motor regenning at -40hp. Effectively pulling the handbrake while cornering, not ideal😂 Edit: Watching again in slow motion the driver comes off the throttle which initiates high regen, applies about 10% brake pressure causing a mass transfer to the front wheels while also turning in to a high speed corner over what appears to be a slight crest, the regen then stayed applied throughout the slide. It’d be interesting to see the analysis from the team/Sasha to see what they concluded caused the instability.
A hybrid map 10 button/selection for "drift mode" would be cool. Auto drift control by managing the regen and assist levels, would allow you to turn in under full re-gen, flick it sideways, and apply full power and the computer would control the throttle, hybrid boost, and potentially even the steering ratio/angle (Infiniti Q50 style) for perfect drift-on-demand tire shredding.
Incredible (as always) Sasha. Your work on Kels definitely serves as inspiration. Do you have any tips for 350Z owners who are just getting started with turning their car into a track car? Wear items, first few mods (after the standard coilovers/suspension arms upgrades), reliability concerns, etc?
this track reminds me of when I was in College at the Georgian College for Automotive marketing and I used to go a the track help a race team called Schmidt Racing they raced VR6 Volkswagens but never that quick I don't know what was the time back then with these cars. any way this is very impressive for a privately built car.
Sasha are you running solid motor mounts? I’m dealing with right hand side engine flex on my chassis bar . 2007 g35s sedan 6mt. 240k miles , thinking of if I install z1 Motorsport 6shooter mounts I can reduce exhaust flex hitting my brace. That or I want pet the ppe headers that hard they dropped. Thoughts? Doing last round of vq upgrades before I decide expensive Nissan build or expensive ls build which is substantially cheaper long run
Sasha, This is probably something that has crossed your mind. Is the power and the amp hour capacity from the battery by weight good enough to allow a smaller lighter weight internal combustion engine and a more powerful electric motor that would still run through the sequential transmission?
Maybe you just got some dirt or crap on the rear left tyre from the previous corner. But not a bad place to use 100 percent of your skills to save it. Nice.
It’s a very fast car but I don’t think it will do 180mph at road America. With our Integra top speed at each track was very similar. 5-8 mph faster at road America.
Probably the most BADDEST Privately built 350z on the planet. That was def Spicy with the rear kick in out mid turn. Nice Save.
Agreed. That wall had its arms wide open for the awaited greeting. Good save
When you excitedly watch this run and imagine yourself racing at a track, then watching that expert save and realizing how costly racing could be 😁
That last turn seriously caught me off guard. Had no idea how seriously things were getting until the road kept becoming less and less. I can only imagine how much sweat the nads must have felt. Very nice save and amazing build!
It is the baddest. I’d like to see another Z33 at this level. Hopefully this car makes it into Gran Turismo.
100% even nismo's Gt 350z that buddy owns in Australia ain't got jack on this. this car is unreal.
Not gonna lie my muscles tensed up from watching you powerslide at 200km/h!
Sasha and his team’s knowledge show in the car and the driving. Mind blown as always , this car had come along way since battling for track records at Cayuga over 10 years ago . My hats off to you guys
All that Assetto Corsa Tesla driving paying off. Great save.
This is the most bad ass track car ever built. The engineering alone is amazing. On top of that you really leave it all out there when driving. Hopefully next year I can get out to a track event near you to see this thing in person.
Mans pulls at 1:18 last year, does a 1:16 this year and speaks 1:15 language now - well done sir, well done
♥️
Came here from @Turnology and was not disappointed. Have seen this car and Sasha highlighted before on @SpeedAcademy. Wow !!! Awesome!!! Kudos to you and your team. Will keep watching 👍
Thank you very much!
Sasha YOU ARE MAD MAN!!! this is so epic. Thanks for the work you did in my Z!!!
The bit starting at 2:30 is just fantastic. Just pure violence. Knock sensor went off to boot 😂
Fantastic lap, nice save at the end!
The regen looks to have caused the slide if the readout is correct, the driver should have a little bit of throttle on, whereas the system was effectively applying brakes to the rear via -40hp regen.
Very interesting to watch and incredible control from the driver
Let me first by saying congratulations on the 116.9 seconds around Mosport is like my home track I know it probably better than anyone that is an incredible time especially to track like Mosport which is really quite unforgiving and scary as hell when I first seen the clip saying it was 116 I did not believe it for a second then I watched the video and my God your car is incredible for any car to be doing 116 at mosport is quite savage in my mind. So congratulations guys you definitely put in the hard work and definitely has paid off hats off to you guys!!!
By the way I almost forgot nice save in corner one you're a hell of a driver as well
Awesome car and driver! keep uploading videos .
Code Brown moment for sure! Awesome work here!
Amazing save. That was intense. I miss my Z33
What an absolutely insane car - and an even crazier driver. The fact that some IMSA GTD cars have top speeds in excess of 300km/h and Sasha was able to set a near-pole time here with gearing that seems to top out around 258km/h only serves to make this way more impressive than it already was
You have come a long way! I’m slowly building my car like yours! I finally assembled my VQ37HR and have been driving it for one month! It’s time for c9 cams!
Waiting for Nordschleife
As you can see we aren't quite ready for that yet! Haha
@@MountainPassPerformance are you sure that your diffuser angle is maintaining flow attachment??
The angle is quite extreme even in comparison to the tilton evo and other extreme cars.
Did you retake it to the wind tunnel to check? because when u did it didnt have a diffuser as i saw on speed academy
Awesome driving, greetings from germany
That lap was as insanely good as the data overlay placement was insanely bad.
Seriously though - amazing work. Congrats!
Can’t get enough of that sound!
This car is out of this world. What's up with the battery indicator though? Seemed to charge under load and discharge during braking.
I was watching that too, my guess was under full throttle the charging system output is enough to drive the electric motor AND charge the battery, but under braking it's not and the electric motor is a parasitic loss in these conditions and adding a little extra braking power.
I'd assumed the elec motor would be a generator under braking, but for time attack style driving maybe they have all the battery capacity they need and a motor/generator is more complex or expensive?
Sasha usually addresses these types of questions though.
I don't want to get overly technical here but the state of charge calculation is based on a few things (including a model of the battery's internal resistance) and they were not calibrated entirely accurately, so the state of charge would trend in the wrong direction at very high current outputs and then become more accurate at lower currents loads.
@@MountainPassPerformance Thanks for clearing up.
@@MountainPassPerformance please get more technical lol. That is what we're here for. Would love a video just talking about that
That's wild! Congrats Sasha
Fantastic performance car and driver, unbelievable how much grip that generates
Fantastic lap
The motor temperature kept climbing and climbing
I love when people talk theory and then show us by applying it.
Absolute adrenaline
Great driving,badass car
Keep on doing what you do!!
I love the track side footage! Also, the oil temps were going up really fast.
Where do you see a gauge for engine oil temperature in this footage?
@@gerzand the motor temp on the top right of the footage. Since the oil acts as a cooling and lubricant, that is where I got the value.
@@ZMCarsandMore since this thermocouple is tracking internal electric motor temperature, it could only be correlated to engine oil temp as measured at the oil pan, if at all. Since the engine block is provided oil which has just passed through an oil cooler, then in my experience you'd primarily want to know the post cooler temperature reading as well to give you a delta vs the temp in the pan. Sasha probably has multiple oil temp sensors in the system and wouldnt lean on just this one. I really hope he can chime in. Good to know your thought process. Thanks.
The motor temp channel is the electric motor stator temp, not oil temp.
That car is something else!!! I assume you have steering angle sensor and 6axis accelerometer, wouldn’t it be beneficial to have reduced engine braking when countersteering? 50 engine braking HO on the rear wheel when going sideways can’t be good. Just an idea, I’m always trying new strategies on my bike.
Great driving and nice save! Keep at it!
Next up an E motor on the front with the Inmotive 2 speed gearbox?
Would add weight and complexity....no room in front without major surgery. Would probably need to become rear engine. Kel's solution is the most effective from a cost/ performance standpoint.
He needs to yank the built na block. And go full ludicrous mode with a p100d rear unit.
Right now we can easily get more power for almost no additional heat with higher battery voltage, so that will be the priority
Hey Sasha ever thought about adding a electric turbocharger to your build setup?
3:29 looks to have been caused by the motor regenning at -40hp.
Effectively pulling the handbrake while cornering, not ideal😂
Edit: Watching again in slow motion the driver comes off the throttle which initiates high regen, applies about 10% brake pressure causing a mass transfer to the front wheels while also turning in to a high speed corner over what appears to be a slight crest, the regen then stayed applied throughout the slide.
It’d be interesting to see the analysis from the team/Sasha to see what they concluded caused the instability.
A hybrid map 10 button/selection for "drift mode" would be cool. Auto drift control by managing the regen and assist levels, would allow you to turn in under full re-gen, flick it sideways, and apply full power and the computer would control the throttle, hybrid boost, and potentially even the steering ratio/angle (Infiniti Q50 style) for perfect drift-on-demand tire shredding.
amazing !
I LOVE YOUR CAR AND WHAT A SAVE!
Incredible (as always) Sasha. Your work on Kels definitely serves as inspiration.
Do you have any tips for 350Z owners who are just getting started with turning their car into a track car? Wear items, first few mods (after the standard coilovers/suspension arms upgrades), reliability concerns, etc?
Thank you so much. To be honest it's been so long, I'm sure a number of new products have come out that I don't even know about!
Sweet save!
Nice save at 200km!
Awesome lap- Congrats!
this track reminds me of when I was in College at the Georgian College for Automotive marketing and I used to go a the track help a race team called Schmidt Racing they raced VR6 Volkswagens but never that quick I don't know what was the time back then with these cars. any way this is very impressive for a privately built car.
Nice save!
Superb save
Hell of a save!
Pretty quick but that motor temp was getting pretty hot
The rotor is only air-cooled instead of oil-cooled like in a Tesla :(
Quick hands & 130+ additional electric HP!?!
This thing is a rocket.
I think maybe a 6:15 Nordschleife time would be possible(with proper gearing)....what do you think?
Who knows! I honestly have no idea what it would do there!
man..that 200kph drift entry is scary
Great driving
Holy save batman!
That's a depends moment!
I like it spicy! Wow amazing build and drive! 👍⚡💪
So this was the 350Z in the making
Nice
Wow!
Casual drift at 260. I remember that on edenbridge
Casual Jammer
great save
Why does the battery deplete rapidly off throttle?
Why is the battery still decreasing under breaking? Battery power showed recuperation when you braked before corners.
Absolutely insane
Is the battery percentage inverted? Seems to go down during braking which is backward?
Sasha are you running solid motor mounts? I’m dealing with right hand side engine flex on my chassis bar . 2007 g35s sedan 6mt. 240k miles , thinking of if I install z1 Motorsport 6shooter mounts I can reduce exhaust flex hitting my brace. That or I want pet the ppe headers that hard they dropped. Thoughts?
Doing last round of vq upgrades before I decide expensive Nissan build or expensive ls build which is substantially cheaper long run
For contex a Dpi prototype does a 1: 10. This Z is flyin. As fast as a GTLM
Why does the battery % go up when you are accelerating but go down when you are braking?
If u could put the data on the bottom instead of the top would be great!
I should have spent more time formatting it for sure, but when it was on the bottom it was blocking all of the driver so that was no good!
@@MountainPassPerformance its okay man. Nothing compares to how amazing the lap was!
Sasha, This is probably something that has crossed your mind. Is the power and the amp hour capacity from the battery by weight good enough to allow a smaller lighter weight internal combustion engine and a more powerful electric motor that would still run through the sequential transmission?
I need that sound though
Impressive with a little spicy lol
Maybe you just got some dirt or crap on the rear left tyre from the previous corner. But not a bad place to use 100 percent of your skills to save it. Nice.
Yeah we really aren't sure yet. Certainly lowers the confidence slightly!
Awesome 🤘
What kind of alignment specs are you running?
I grew a chub watching this
NICE SAVE! O.O
Amazing
Code brown!!
wa wa wee wahhh!
giddy up boys
SPICY!
50 powerslide points to griffindor
Hot Damm.
Huge save at 3:08 as well! Like it was nothing. lol
New underpants needed
Road America you can do 180Mph+ My 350z could only do 140mph. Next GTR will be this fast with its hybrid system
It’s a very fast car but I don’t think it will do 180mph at road America. With our Integra top speed at each track was very similar. 5-8 mph faster at road America.
You shouldn't get off the throttle pedal too rapidly mid turn without brake blending and trail braking.
Because it isn't a F1 car ✅